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Landry Will Skip Trip; QB Rotation Changes

Safety LaRon Landry (hamstring) will not accompany the Redskins on the trip to face the New York Jets on Saturday at Giants Stadium.

"We're going to leave LaRon at home to continue to get treatment," Coach Jim Zorn said. "We are just trying to continue to get him ready."
...
Quarterback Jason Campbell will open the Saturday night game with the first-team offense. Todd Collins will follow Campbell and play most of the first half.

In a change, however, Derek Devine will start the third quarter and Colt Brennan will enter in the fourth and finish the game. In the first two preseason games, Brennan entered in the third.

"I want to see what Colt can do at the end of the game," Zorn said. "Either in clock management or in a two-minute situation if we find ourselves behind in the score."
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Antwaan Randle was excused from the afternoon practice, Zorn said.

Zorn on training camp ending today: "Our training camp has been very, very good. We've had very few days that we just kind of lost all concentration and fumbled around. Our guys have given great effort and we've accomplished an awful lot.

"We've given our players the experiences, thus far, that we've wanted to see that are going to be needed to rep and rehearse before we get to our regular season. And now we'll have a chance to use those things in three more preseason games."

By Cindy Boren  |  August 14, 2008; 1:41 PM ET
 
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Posted by: RambleOn | August 14, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

THIRD

Posted by: third! | August 14, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse


SKIPPY'S OTHER COUSIN
(Repested from previous threat)

Hi, my name is Skippy andI have a metal plate in my head and really REALLY like Lemon Meringue Pie.

Skippy sees where Bert Parks, the new quarterbat of the New Jersey Jacks says his arm is “fatigued.” Well Skippy laughs up his shorts at this canard! Skippy thinks Parked Cars is trying to make up a recuse in advance for explaining how one of his downfield bums got picked at and returned up his hose by the Redskims. Go ‘skims!

As some of you already may have remembered to forget, when the Jacks attired the Green Gay sniggle caller, they reprised “Hanging” Chad Pencilneck, their earlier former quaterdeck. Charlie Tuna came calling and Chad soon was singed with the Miami Sound Machine and their lead singer Gloria Allred.

Skippy’s other third cousin twice removed (once forcibly) is a agent/lawler. He have analized the Brett Frrrrrrrrve trade. Here’s what he determined anally.

“The deal depends on the amount of playing time Farve attains. If he is present and snappily dressed for not less than 40% but no more than 50% of the games whether he plays or not, the Green Bay Packers receive a fourth round draft choice and a complimentary Danish.

“If Favre is at the game ‘in spirit or contextually,’ during 60% of the time he isn’t otherwise present, and calls in no less than 24 hours in advance, he is not charged a late fee.

"If the Jets make the playoffs, the draft choice is rescinded and instead Green Bay receives either a player to be named Later or a boy named Sue.

"If Favre is cut from the team, then the Jets must keep him and, ironically, Green Bay receives no compensation but Green Day gets a new bass player. Glad to help, Skippy. Best to your Mom and the Twins.”

Skippy feverishly hops this helps clean up the contusion.

Fondly,

Skippy

Posted by: Skippy | August 14, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

How many punts for Frosty this weekend?

Posted by: Dave | August 14, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Im not liking landry's injury one bit... he is only a 2nd year player, and we need him to be a beast... if they end up saying 'oh look at this, he needs surgery' i am gonna be pissed.

Posted by: Zebra | August 14, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

skippy, you have way too much time on your hands. that was ridiculous. i couldn't even finish reading it.

Posted by: Ben | August 14, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I do not like it one bit when they keep on dragging out the hamstring injuries for weeks and weeks. This smacks of something more serious than a "strained hamstring". I feel too worried that the ball isd gonna drop on this one.......Nope, don't like it one bit.

Posted by: dlhaze | August 14, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 14, 2008 1:09 PM

Didn't want to to cut and paste the lengthy post, but this is a much fairer critique of Gibbs 2.0 than the one Jasno posted.

Thanks, AL Zeke

Posted by: CBT | August 14, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

As a man, Gibbs is unparalleled. As a coach and personnel guy the last four years, he is easily surpassed. I'm sorry, I love the guy, but our offense has been pitiful for years, we lost every challenge (except that 12 men on the field in Minny, I hope that guy got a raise), we had tons of false starts, we are the only team I know of that lost two games because of illegal shifts negating TD's....and then argued about it, we had delay of games, bad timeouts, and generally looked like we were lost most of the time. That's not great coaching. If Zorn can run the team as well in the regular season as he has in the preseason, Campbell develops into a top 5 qb in the NFC, and the offense gets into the top 12 in the league, this season will be a success regardless of what the record is. The facts are, our division is the best in football, we could have a better team and still miss the playoffs. The key to this year is developing some type of identity on offense and developing JC. If that happens, and we revamp our Oline a little in the offseason (find replacements for Kendall and Jansen) we are set up to contend for years with solid talent and youth at all of our skill positions.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 14, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Zeb, who you gonna be pissed at??

Posted by: Greg | August 14, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

To continue with the Gibbs to Zorn transition. Snyder got lucky that so many people turned him down this offseason. I felt GG was the man for the job. But .... Zorn has that "life is like a box of chocolates" feeling. Zorn is 55, been around football a long time and seems to be respected by most (though not Jim Mora Jr, which is actually a + in my book).

For me, the telltale signs are these. Greg Blache and Joe Bugel wouldn't stick around if Zorn wasn't respected. If Zorn weren't competent, they'd been leaving town. I'm guessing guys like Blache and Bugel see a lot of themselves in Zorn.

At times, it seems like Zorn is still acting like a QB coach. Which isn't all bad. Zorn and Campbell are joined at the hip as the biggest question marks for this team. Campbell had enough good efforts to show he can play in this league. The question is can Zorn develop him from a middle of the road QB into a top 10 guy.

Zorn's learning curve on things like halftime adjustments and play calling are clearly unknowns. But so far, its hard not to like what we've seen.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 14, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Maybe LaRon... usually the team would go ahead and put him under the knife,,, i guess a player can refuse... I guess i will blame gibbs.

Posted by: Zebra | August 14, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey whats the number for the text updates from RI?

Posted by: Joshq | August 14, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Skippy, my contusion is all cleared up. You and me Skippy, we're gonna see Gloria Allred and MSM next time they visit Constifusion Hall

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 14, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

tru dat zeeb. What is UP with the training staff here??

I actually saw a quote from a player where he wanted to actually stretch more but the coaches had them already running drills.

I'm kinda confused on the accountability there.

Posted by: Dik | August 14, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

skippy, you have way too much time on your hands. that was ridiculous. i couldn't even finish reading it.

Posted by: Ben | August 14, 2008 1:14 PM

Skippy will get back to you later, when he works up enough willpower to finish reading YOUR post. Skippy did get a refrosting nap, tho.

B

Posted by: Skippy | August 14, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry about LaRhonda, she'll be just fine.

Posted by: The Tuna | August 14, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Hit refresh; qb rotation has been changed.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

no WAY GG could coach this team. He had some really great ideas, could work talent, etc.

But couldn't manage a game. Even just on D.

Posted by: Dik | August 14, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

How many punts for Frosty this weekend?

Posted by: Dave | August 14, 2008 1:13 PM

None, the Rookie will get all the punts this week, thank god we do not have to worry about another line drive punt ending up in a 45 yard return.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 14, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Rest and treatment is the only way to heal the hamstring muscles. It just takes time, and one has to be patient.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Zorn's learning curve on things like halftime adjustments and play calling are clearly unknowns. But so far, its hard not to like what we've seen.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 14, 2008 1:22 PM

Excellent analysis.

Posted by: All the Anonymuses | August 14, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

True anon,

but we have Kelly with surgery, Thomas with rest... laron somewhere in the middle? or was kellys a knee.


I just know santana had that lingering all year... fast twitch muscle and all

Posted by: Zebra | August 14, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Rest and treatment is the only way to heal the hamstring muscles. It just takes time, and one has to be patient.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 1:32 PM

Anon,

You are to optimistic for this crowd, he will need surgery and be out for the year.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 14, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I have fast twitch muscle...

... in my pants...


SJK

Posted by: Dik | August 14, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

changing rotating nads

Posted by: nads guy | August 14, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Need us more saftys

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

If you asked, technically I'm not pimping the text function:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/07/need_redskins_news_now_try_tex.html

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Landry Will Skip Trip to Meadowlands
Safety LaRon Landry (hamstring) will not accompany the Redskins on the trip to face the New York Jets on Saturday at Giants Stadium.
"We're going to leave LaRon at home to continue to get treatment," Coach Jim Zorn said. "We are just trying to continue to get him ready."
By Cindy Boren | August 14, 2008; 1:05 PM ET

Another hack job by the beat reporter. He makes it sound so negative that Landry isn't even going to the game. Really, just one or two lines from Zorn to verify this? Where's a quote from an unconfirmed source???? I'll bet some of the Ravens aren't going to their game this weekend, but does he mention that? Nooooooo......
Man, JLA your blind agenda against the FO and Gibbs really shines through again. I hate you.

Oh, wait, Cindy posted that?
Thanks for the update Cyn, keep up the great work. I love you.

Posted by: dlhaze | August 14, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Like the way Zorn thinks about teching Colt. Slot him for no 2 in 2009.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

McIntosh, Rogers to Play Saturday

Rocky McIntosh and Carlos Rogers are scheduled to play Saturday against the New York Jets, Jim Zorn told reporters after the morning practice. Both are recovering from reconstructive knee surgery.

By Cindy Boren | August 14, 2008; 10:57 AM ET


Hmmmn...no vested interest, but should players coming off of major knee surgery make their debuts on Astroturf?

Posted by: iCowboyFan | August 14, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Zorn, on training camp ending today: “Our training camp has been very, very good. We’ve had very few days that we just kind of lost all concentration and fumbled around. Our guys have given great effort and we’ve accomplished an awful lot.
"We’ve given our players the experiences, thus far, that we’ve wanted to see that are going to be needed to rep and rehearse before we get to our regular season. And now we’ll have a chance to use those things in three more preseason games.”

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Zorn's learning curve on things like halftime adjustments and play calling are clearly unknowns. But so far, its hard not to like what we've seen.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 14, 2008 1:22 PM

And as Zorn steps up to take on those responsibilities, JC will have to separate himself from Zorn at the hip and step up as the on-field leader. Zorn is giving JC all the skills necessary now while they have the time, and then it will be up to Jason Campbell to prove that he is a Top-10 QB in the league.

For those who are old enough to remember, Zorn was a very good on-field leader as a player. Let's hope that JC can learn these same critical lessons. Otherwise, starting over yet again at QB will be a necessity.

Posted by: Moving Target | August 14, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmn...no vested interest, but should players coming off of major knee surgery make their debuts on Astroturf?

Posted by: iCowboyFan | August 14, 2008 1:40 PM

They gotta play there eventually. And they're not rehabbing anymore - they're healthy. No reason for them not to.

Posted by: psps23 | August 14, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

And bad astroturf at that.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Well, we made it through camp and only lost 1 starter for the year, and that may turn out to be a good move....Yay!

Posted by: dlhaze | August 14, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

My name is Bill, and I'm a Cindyholic.

Posted by: Bill | August 14, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Keep that qb raiting over 100 and he will be a leader by example.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Am I missing something? Giants stadium has real grass doesn't it?

Posted by: dlhaze | August 14, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Ya its not Astro turf in Giants Stadium like an indoor stadium or what they had at the Vet or anything but I think its "turf" as in fake grass or "smart grass", right?

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Zorn's end-of-camp comments are the first I remember that make him sound like every other coach in the league. He needs to toss out those scripts and just be himself when he speaks to the media.

Posted by: Moving Target | August 14, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Just looked it up...it's Field Turf. Not as bad as astro, but not as good as grass.....

Posted by: dlhaze | August 14, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

dug this up on nflteamhistory.com :

"Prior to the 2000 season, Giants Stadium had an Astroturf field, but after the 1999 season, the Astroturf was ripped up and replaced with grass. However after the 2002 season the grass field was replaced with Fieldturf. "

Posted by: creativefunk | August 14, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

interesting point.

Posted by: Mr. Onehunguy | August 14, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Right it can be pulled out in squairs for quicker replacement. I guess when its used every week they need to do that though.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

since LL's injury is continuing to lag on he needs electro stimulation treatment. rest is only good in the beginning, but if it persist then you have to hook up the electro waves and treat it that way. the electric shock will help stimulate the muscle and help it to regenerate healthier muscles quicker.

Cindy feel free to pass that on to the beat reporter so he can tell those idiot trainers at the park.

Posted by: Great One | August 14, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Say what you want about FedEx Field but at least we have a good field.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Put some security on Dirty Thirty and don't allow him out of DC.

Posted by: jm220 | August 14, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey, that wasn't me!

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

2006 NFL PLAYERS ASSOCIATION PLAYING SURFACE RANKINGS

1 Tampa Bay
2 Seattle (FieldTurf)
3 Carolina
4 Detroit (FieldTurf)
5 Baltimore (Sportexe)
6 Arizona
7 Atlanta (FieldTurf)
8 Jacksonville
9 Indianapolis (FieldTurf)
10 San Diego
11 St. Louis (FieldTurf)
12 Denver
13 Washington
14 Cincinnati (FieldTurf)
15 Houston
16 New York Giants/Jets (FieldTurf)
17 San Francisco
18 Green Bay
19 New Orleans (Sportexe)
20 Miami
21 Tennessee
22 Dallas (RealGrass)
23 Philadelphia
24 Minnesota (FieldTurf)
25 Buffalo (Astroplay)
26 Kansas City
27 Chicago
28 Cleveland
29 Pittsburgh
30 New England (Before FieldTurf)
31 Oakland Raiders

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

My bad--it's FieldTurf.

Posted by: iCowboyFan | August 14, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

One point about Gibbs 2.0 that few people really get. To the frustration of most, Gibbs felt that a drive of 40 yards that took 7 minutes and got a FG was a good thing. It drove most Skins fans, including me, nuts. Was Gibbs was a mediocre game day coach? I think so. But ....

Gibbs approach did serve a purpose and I think I understand it, somewhat. 7 minute drives with a FG at the end keeps both teams in the game. No blowouts. I think Gibbs kept coaching this team for them to be in the game at the end of the game. Where the 4th quarter would decide it. And that did happen -- a lot.

My guess -- Gibbs felt a team that had experience in close games would figure out how to win these games. Fighting for a win in the 4th quarter does build team chemistry. It also shows who the 'character' players are ... and aren't. Which is a big part of Gibbs mentality.

In 2007, Gibbs had a QB who hadn't learned how to win in the 4th quarter. If he had that, despite all the injuries, Skins would have been 12-4, maybe even better.

My sense is that Gibbs "keep it close" approach was meant to develop players and bring the team together. That character could win games.

This approach was difficult to watch and cost us some games. Its also not the approach needed to win championships. The NFL is a league where you need to "play to win" in order to be great.

Still, will Jason Campbell be better in the long run for having been in roughly a dozen (or more) games where the last drive mattered? Probably. And thats no small factor in 2008.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 14, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

AL Zeke makes a good point. Huzzah.

Posted by: DCUnited2 | August 14, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm crushed that someone posted as me.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Don't be Cin, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

You might want to get some mace while you're at it....

Posted by: Greg | August 14, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

That is a violation of the greatest of the RI rules. No posting as Cindy or JLC or JReid

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Cyn, can you tag your name to go directly to trash if someone else posts it (or boomerang a virus to the origin :-)? I imagine it hurts most when they post something ludicrous with your name on it. Chin up.

Posted by: creativefunk | August 14, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I am The Sourcerer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jayson Blair-Canfora | August 14, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I am The Sourcerer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jayson Blair-Canfora | August 14, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm crushed that someone posted as me.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 2:18 PM

Wasn't me! :)

Posted by: I'm NOT Cindy | August 14, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I am The Sourcerer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jayson Blair-Canfora | August 14, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting for my coppy of Madden 09 for the PS2. Alex want play.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

My sources tell me that the redskins are going to have 6 wins this sea...no...5 wins this season.

My sources also tell me that there is growing anger within the team about the season not arriving fast enough, and players are starting to lose faith in Coach Jim Zorn's ability to speed up the month of August.

My sources also tell me that Dan Snyder has privately told Coach Zorn this is a 1 year deal, no matter what, and to quote "make the most of it."

My sources say that Snyder plans to bring in a big name fish, someone flashy, immediately following this season. Possibly Bill Cowher.

My sources also wanted me to tell my readers that they--the sources--really do exist...that I don't make up "sources" to gain attention for my reporting, and that they would reveal themselves publicly except they fear that Mr. Snyder will trade them to the L.A. Clippers.

Stay tuned for more updates from The Sourcerer!

Posted by: Jayson Blair-Canfora | August 14, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jayson Blair-Canfora | August 14, 2008 2:45 PM

someone check the IP address and see if its not coming from an office at Redskins Radio.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Joe Gibbs for everything you have done for this franchise your second go-round, you restored so much that this franchise lost upon your first exit. You made the 2007 season the most memorable of any of the 21 seasons I have been watching..and for that I will always be grateful. Animals like J-Lac I will have to apologize for. He is clearly scorned, and a man as himself, who is quick to profess his unbiased and objective approach is clearly struggling at hiding the huge amount of personal contempt he has for you. I learned 2 things today about 2 people. #1 The Truth isn't such a bad guy after all, even though his Ga. Bulldogs talk gets on my nerves #2 J-Lac is such a bad guy after all. That warpathinsiders stuff that I have been reading is everything that I had hoped J-Lac would provide but has struggled mightily to give us. I can't stand to see him bash anything Redskins in an unfair manner that he has just now. Thank you once again Joe Gibbs, you have left Coach Zorn with one heck of a foundation. I will be rooting hard for Coach Z and the Redskins success in 2008 and every year after.
By the way if kmdp4 is hip to that sell out shti he can go be an Cardinals fan or something. fuggin clown fruk him and everyone else who is down with J-Lac and his biased reporting.

-Earl the 3rd

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 14, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Any chance that the JetSkins game will be televised, given the media obsession of Broadway Brett's return?

I cannot find any television listings. Help me out.

Posted by: SCSkins | August 14, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

see if its not coming from an office at Redskins Radio.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 2:49 PM

Yeah sure, the only people who think Jason La Canfora is a fraud and a liar are those who work for the Redskins. That must be it.

Posted by: IDIOT | August 14, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Here is an observation from 'Hard Knocks'.

Jason Garrett's dad is Fire Marshall Bill.

Posted by: Mike | August 14, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"Any chance that the JetSkins game will be televised, given the media obsession of Broadway Brett's return?"

I don't know if it will be on any other channel but it will be on the NFL Network @ 7:00.

Posted by: BCBarney | August 14, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Idiot,
I would like to point out that you are the only one who has said fraud and liar.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Idiot,
I would like to point out that you are the only one who has said fraud and liar.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 3:04 PM

Apparently you haven't been paying attention much to the comments on this blog over the past year or so. Many, many readers have commented that Jason La Canfora makes things up to suit his agenda. That is undeniable. You can say that he doesn't make things up, that's fine. But you can't legitimately say that others on her have not commented on La Canfora's lack of integrity and, yes, honesty.

Posted by: IDIOT | August 14, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Alex, invoking the specter of Jayson Blair is an implicit accusation of journalistic fraud, whether plagiarizing or fabricating, for which practice Blair serves as the poster boy.

I haven't seen any evidence cited by the anti-Jason lobby up here that La Canfora has committed any plagiarism or fabrication. He DOES, however, state honest opinions which are unwelcome to many Redskins fans (and probably to the team's front office and media machine), and he often cites unnamed sources in his reports. I really appreciate the honest opinions he provides, if I don't always agree. And as for citing unnamed sources, if it's good enough for his editors, it's good enough for me.

Let's put it this way: I trust and believe Jason La Canfora more than I do the trolls who come up here to bash him... by which I mean the malicious stuff that goes way beyond criticism of his work into personal attacks.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 14, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Here is an observation from 'Hard Knocks'.

Jason Garrett's dad is Fire Marshall Bill.

Posted by: Mike | August 14, 2008 3:01 PM

LOL!!!

U R so wrong, Mike!

BTW, I would pay a subscription fee to see next year's Hard Knocks with the Washington Redskins (although the sound quality would be a little rough on the raquetball court).

Posted by: iCowboyFan | August 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The Truth later today will post a link that will allow you, yes YOU!, to watch most games online for free. The Truth says sometimes a couple games are missing, but it was pretty reliable last year.


The Truth says the only bad part is watching the game on a PC.

Posted by: The Truth | August 14, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

IDIOT, thank you for the correction... it's very true that among the bashing of Jason La Canfora up here have been accusations that he "makes things up to suit his agenda." I agree, IDIOT, it is absolutely undeniable that such accusations have been made!

But again, there's no there there... it's just not true. There is no smoking gun with which the anti-Jasno lobby will finally prove that the beat reporter is just as despicable as they so passionately believe.

Amazing stuff...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 14, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Very much agree with Nate!

Posted by: dlhaze | August 14, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

On both of his last 2 posts!

Posted by: dlhaze | August 14, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

If he made things up, he would be fired. And the Post insists on two sources when people won't speak on the record.
Back on the fuball field, 11-on-11s have begun and Reed Doughty, he of the tummy turmoil, is not taking part.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Jason La Canfora,

All I can say is I hope you get hazardous duty pay living there and taking this verbal beating.

Although I was born there, I am so glad I don't live there anymore. Taking an opposing view takes much more courage than running with the crowd, so keep up the good work.

To all those Gibbs apologists, this isn't Church, or some charitable organization. This is professional sports. Gibbs himself might agree with many of JLC's points. He is an honorable man and I'd love to hear what his thoughts are.

Posted by: MyrtleBeachMike

Posted by: MyrtleBeachMike | August 14, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I think the look on his face when he realized what he'd done when he called that second timeout said it all.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

http://only-sneakers.ru/
The biggest collection of sneakers you have ever seen

Posted by: Neffertittie | August 14, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey MyrtleBeachMike, it's awesome you're from the SC!

BUT

What Gibbs did last year was probably the best coaching job in the LEAGUE last year. Sorry he didn't win a Superbowl but only 4 head coaches did in his time here.


Anyway, to a different topic, any place to find the current contracts for the Skins?

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 14, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Landry is a one-year-never-will-be!

Posted by: someone | August 14, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Actually The Truth exaggerated considering The Patriots almost went undefeated so The Truth takes it back, but The Truth also remembers Spygate.


The Truth has another question, what happened to the contract money Sean Taylor was supposed to make?

Posted by: The Truth | August 14, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Not 100% sure Truth, but i think it goes in the trust fund to his daughter.

Posted by: 35332 | August 14, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

The Truth,

I agree totally in your statement that Gibbs did the best coaching job in the league. That's stuff that statistics won't show to all the Gibbs haters but whatever.
That website you are referring to is it
Channelsurfing.net ??

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 14, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

BUT

What Gibbs did last year was probably the best coaching job in the LEAGUE last year. Sorry he didn't win a Superbowl but only 4 head coaches did in his time here.

Anyway, to a different topic, any place to find the current contracts for the Skins?

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person
You already beat me to it, but NE's run was very impressive. Gibbs still visits this area often and I know if asked he'd have candid things to say. His humility and humble way is/was sadly, lost on many of todays players. We won't know what Zorn will do, but the players seem excited, as does he. Sometimes a change will do you good...... There's a song there somewhere! :)

Posted by: MyrtleBeachMike | August 14, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

And, just like that, Doughty is back on the field.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

yeah it's channelsurfing

you have to use IE but it's pretty reliable and usually an only resort here in South Carolina :(

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

IF Skins make playoffs. Than Dan Snyder owes gibbs seats in his box. Because, Gibbs helped Danny right the ship.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Checked in with Jasno to refresh my memory...Taylor wasn't due any money because base salaries are not guaranteed and he'd already received his bonus. Daniel Snyder dedicated a minimum of $500,000 to the trust fund for Taylor's daughter Jackie. Not sure, but he may have paid the remainder of Taylor's '08 salary, too.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

yeah it's channelsurfing

you have to use IE but it's pretty reliable and usually an only resort here in South Carolina :(

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person

1500 or 2500 channels? Whis one do I need to watch NFL network?

Thanks,
BTW, where ins SC are you?

Posted by: MyrtleBeachMike | August 14, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"Change Is Gonna Do Me Good," Frank Black

(yeah, I kind of have a Frank Black problem, so what?)

MyrtleBeachMike, Truth, Earl... I don't think anyone disagrees about Gibbs the man, and the job Gibbs did to lead this team last year. I love the guy, always will. He's the greatest coach in this team's history. And he definitely turned the organization around, from the owner to the last guy on the roster. But please, please, don't tell me you didn't experience some very painful moments over the past four years watching him on the sideline. It sure wasn't a walk in the park, and that's coming from someone who always goes as positive as possible re: Gibbs.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 14, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Say what you want about Dan Snyder, the man has a IMPECCABLE reputation, it is beyond reproach, as far as I'm concerned when it comes to things of this nature. The way he handled the tragic passing of #21, getting Buges to AZ to be with his family, flying Collins up to Boston to be there for the birth of one of his kids, and I'm sure I'm missing quite a few.

Posted by: Greg | August 14, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Nate, what in the world is PDX anyway?

I agree,
I actually am happy about the change. Gibbs II always coached not to lose instead of going after it. I don't remember him coaching that way the first go-around. He would throw deep, have all sorts of gadgetry etc...
The players seem to like playing for Zorn. Zorn will have to show he can do it, but if you don't get the guys excited about playing, you could be the best person,coach, father etc.. and it ain't gonna work.

Posted by: MyrtleBeachMike | August 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

For the two-game winning streaks that put the team into the playoffs and for the leadership after Taylor died, Gibbs was on his game. The rest of the time, my two cents is that he tried to coach the way he runs his NASCAR team. Which works in auto racing, but not in football, where being a control-freak, non-CEO coach works.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Nate. Nate, Nate, Nate.

It's "Space is Gonna Do Me Good." Not "Change."

You see, I, too, have a Frank Black problem.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Support the UFL,
more football = good

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

dug this up on nflteamhistory.com :

"Prior to the 2000 season, Giants Stadium had an Astroturf field, but after the 1999 season, the Astroturf was ripped up and replaced with grass. However after the 2002 season the grass field was replaced with Fieldturf. "

Posted by: creativefunk | August 14, 2008 1:50 PM


Fieldturf is what they have at Fawcett Stadium in Canton. Walked across it numerous times on enshrinement Saturday, and it feels like walking on grass. Pretty neat how the "dirt" on the field is really little bits of rubber.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 14, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

It all remindes me of what happened in philly years ago. When Ed Rendell came in the city was going bankrupt and about to lose its bigest industry. He just did a competent job for his time there, kicked the unions in the a$$ and saved the docks. Got the city on its feet, left it to those after him to try and make the city thrive.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I know, I know, zilla, I figured nobody would notice... ah well. So that's what it takes to lure you out of hiding, eh? Hmm...

Mike, PDX = Portland, OR. It was my lame joke on the pop culture phenomenon of people using the airport code instead of their hometown's name. "The ATL" and such as. Lame, obscure... and the name I used when I started posting, and then didn't want to change. *sigh*

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 14, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Is there such a thing as bad football? Besides, I mean, the Chiefs?


Support the UFL,
more football = good


Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 4:02 PM

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

BTW, it's storming Ashburn; afternoon practice (mostly special teams) is ovah.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I'll start saying I'm the MYR from now on then.......

as an aside,
my wife's from newport oregon.

Posted by: MyrtleBeachMike | August 14, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Well did the XFL count? That was kinda bad. Though it did give Maddox a 2nd turn at Pitt.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

It's okay to admit you actually live at the airport, Nate.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Update
Randle El was excused from the afternoon practice for personal reasons, Zorn said.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

I look at what Red Skinz wrote and I say to myself, "dam there is some truth to what this guy is pointing out about J-Lac.
Now of course naturally I'm going to subscribe to a theory that is similar to what I hold. But what I feel Jason is doing is negative exaggeration. I'm not sure if it is consciously or unconsciously, but there were a few facts in there that I thought were exaggerated. The offseason after 04 (his first) was not gluttonous spending or however he put it at all. There is a few other things that I read in which I felt the same way. I can handle unbiased opinion that are not convenient for the average redskins fan to hear, but not when it is exaggerated.
And yes Nate some were painful but you & I probably both know it will be that way with Zorn too ! Any way This below stuck out to me:

Bare your teeth and drop any pretense of impartiality. After all, who couldn't tell your bias before? (Let's just go back to last season and check, shall we? Gibbs not going for it in on 4th-and-1 against Dallas in the first half last year, instead opting for a field goal attempt? Not aggressive enough (as usual). Gibbs going for it on 4th-and-1 a week later in Tampa? How stupid can he be? Why didn't he kick the field goal????)

Let's see: Poor offensive performance on select gameday? All Gibbs fault. Good offensive performance on select gameday? It was because Gibbs finally left Al Saunders alone.
L.Coles unhappy in offense and dropping every pass thrown his way? Gibbs fault, not Coles. Santana Moss in same offense setting several club receiving records one year later? No mention.
Twelve years with one playoff appearance in Gibbs' absence? Not the coaches fault but the owners and front office. Two playoff appearances in four years for Gibbs after inheriting a roster debacle and years of front office mistakes? Pitiful, or, at best, a mere result of parity (does that mean Sean Payton is now an idiot, too, for going from the playoffs in '06 to 7 wins in the NFL's worst division last year?).

Look, was Gibbs II a sparkling performance, fulfilling every Redskin fans dreams? Of course not. But it wasn't as if it was a complete disaster, either. He left it better than he got it, and considering he got it after 12 years of built-up problems and being out of the game perhaps it should be viewed in that lens regardless of frustrations

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 14, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The XFL was a joke, the XFL did make Vince McMahon a billionaire though. he was a millionaire already but the cash he got from that 1 year of football put him into the billionaire category. it is actually pretty smart.

Posted by: Great One | August 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

XFL gave the world He Hate Me. That was pretty significant.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I know, I know, zilla, I figured nobody would notice... ah well. So that's what it takes to lure you out of hiding, eh? Hmm...


Nah, not hiding. Just busy and getting caught up. Mrs. Freakzilla and I flew home from Reston last night. Got home really late (12:30 AM Pacific, or 3:30 AM to our internal clocks). On the plus side, for both flights yesterday we scored the emergency row exits with all of the legroom -- the closest thing to first class on Southwest.

My step-dad is back at home and recovering well from heart surgery. Thanks to all who sent prayers and good wishes. :-)

Posted by: freakzilla | August 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

It's okay to admit you actually live at the airport, Nate.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:15 PM


LOL!

Posted by: iCowboyFan | August 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I will say (sadly) I did watch the whole XFL. If the UFL is making 1 mistake its that they are opening in the exact same markets the XFL did except 1, Conneticut.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Glad to hear about your step-dad, Freak. How's your gentleman friend-Redskins fan?

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

freak, thanks for the update, and continued Prayers for you, and your family.

On a side note, there was a car chase on Fox News today in Houston, TX. At the end of the chase, the guy drives his car into a parked car, gets out and starts running. Another cop HITS HIM, going at least 30 MPH. The guy running from the cops SHOE shot STRAIGHT UP IN THE AIR, at least 30 feet. If you have a chance give it a look.

The weird thing is after gettingn waxed by the cop car, he gets cuffed and is able to walk. Seriously, check it out.

Posted by: Greg | August 14, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Painful moments is all part of being a Redskin fan

EMBRACE IT (but not for long)!!

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 14, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Jon Jansen Returns - But Is He Back?
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Rich Tandler
WarpathInsiders.com Aug 14, 2008

Rich Tandler writes about a struggling Jon Jansen.

In today’s Richmond Times-Dispatch, there is a Paul Woody article about Washington Redskins tackle Jon Jansen. At the top, there is a four-column black and white picture of Jansen lying on the FedEx Field turf in agony right after a tangle in a pile resulted in him sustaining a broken leg and a dislocated ankle. His 2007 season ended less than 30 minutes after it started.

Woody’s article talks about the two major injuries from which Jansen has had to recover since 2004, when a preseason Achilles tendon tear put him on the shelf for all of that season. Woody writes about Jansen’s family life (he has two young daughters) and his offseason activities (he appeared on ESPN and wrote for The Sporting News).

He mentions the 2008 preseason only briefly, saying that “the Redskins' front five have been playing well in the preseason. They're protecting quarterback Jason Campbell and providing openings for the running game.”

I’d have to say that the dean of Redskins beat writers is nine-tenths right here. All five starters have been doing well in run blocking, opening holes for whichever running back is handed the ball. Four of the five are doing a decent job of pass protection. The exception to the latter is Jon Jansen.

In the four series in which he has played, two in each of his team’s games so far, Jansen has struggled in pass protection. He has wound up getting pushed back well into the backfield on several occasions. Against the Bills he was flagged for holding. In the Hall of Fame game a Colts defensive end not named Dwight Freeney pushed him around.

His problems have not been limited to the preseason games. Jansen has had some embarrassing moments in practice as well. Earlier this week Jason Taylor threw him to the ground as though Jansen were some sort of tackling dummy.

This has led to Jansen becoming a whipping boy on some message boards and blogs. He’s too old and injury prone, they say. Jason Campbell won’t survive September if they don’t do something. Get rid of him and give a kid like Chad Rinehart or Stephon Heyer a chance.

To address the last part first, Jansen isn’t going anywhere. He signed a contract extension prior to last season that would make releasing him very costly in terms of the 2009 salary cap.

Is he too old? No, 32 is not ancient for an offensive lineman by any means. Is he injury prone? Well, it’s hard to argue that a player who has missed virtually all of two of the last four seasons is the picture of health. However, you also can make the case that the two injuries were the result of horribly bad luck, not of an inherent fragility in Jansen’s physical makeup.

In any case, the Redskins are going to put him out there and see what happens. His struggles could be the result of him trying to knock of the rust that has accumulated as a result of missing last year. If that’s the case, he should round into form by the time the season starts.

That brings up the question of what “form” for Jon Jansen is at this stage of his career. In his first few years in the league he was among the best tackles in the game with the Redskins’ mediocre records costing him Pro Bowl spots. For the past few years, however, even when healthy, the general consensus is that he’s been average at best.

Right now, Jansen has some work to do to get up to being average.

Rich Tandler blogs about the Skins at RealRedskins.com and he is the author of the upcoming book The Redskins Chronicle. You can reach Rich by email at rich.tandler+real@gmail.com


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Story URL: http://was.scout.com/2/779367.html

Posted by: Tandler to da Post | August 14, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Mike, PDX = Portland, OR. It was my lame joke on the pop culture phenomenon of people using the airport code instead of their hometown's name. "The ATL" and such as. Lame, obscure... and the name I used when I started posting, and then didn't want to change. *sigh*

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 14, 2008 4:10 PM

Why ya gotta call me out, Bro? Thought this was the new tree-hugging, always-welcoming, every-loving Nate.

Posted by: CBT in the ATL | August 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Nate.

Posted by: Cindy in the DC | August 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Huh ?

Posted by: Virgil Mudd of the CPT | August 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I was looking on NFL.com and they had the 10 greatest rivalries. they had the redskins vs cowboys as #4. the only problem I had was that they had the cowboys listed like four times.
they had cowboys vs steelers
cowboys vs rams vs vikings
cowboys vs 49ers
cowboys vs packers

they should have just said cowboys vs the NFL.

I hate the cowboys and the pro cowboy media

Posted by: Great One | August 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

America's 10 Most Miserable Sports Cities

1. Atlanta
2. Seattle
3. Buffalo
4. Phoenix
5. San Diego
6. Houston
7. Denver
8. Cleveland
9. Philadelphia
10. Minneapolis

according to Forbs

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

America's 10 Most Miserable Sports Cities

1. Atlanta

according to Forbs

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 4:41 PM

Would agree with this assessment for pro sports, but there is no better place to be when it comes to college football.

We are going to have some fun this year talking about the Dawgs.

Posted by: CBT | August 14, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Alex, not to disagree, but how is Philly not #1??

Posted by: Greg | August 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

America's 10 Most Miserable Sports Cities

1. Atlanta

according to Forbs

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 4:41 PM

Would agree with this assessment for pro sports, but there is no better place to be when it comes to college football.

We are going to have some fun this year talking about the Dawgs.


Posted by: CBT | August 14, 2008 4:47 PM

Yea, especially with the suspensions and that starting o lineman blowing out his knee. Looking good.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

A fellow Redskin fan talking about injuries? Hrmmm....it happens, we'll reload. CMR has been recruiting hardcore at that spot so we don't have to go through some of the previous problems we've had. We're reloading with other freshmen/sophomores. Sturdivant is a beast, but he was only a soph, he'll be okay and we'll be alright.


As for suspensions? I have no problem with it, what ya gonna do? At least we didn't let a player who 1) punched a person, 2) spit on the same person, 3) fired an AK 47 in the air to frighten that same person, and 4) got caught with weed back on the team ala Urban Creyer at FU (Florduh)

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 14, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Point taken. You know I like to poke fun at the Bulldogs. Even more so at Ohio State though.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 14, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

As for suspensions? I have no problem with it, what ya gonna do? At least we didn't let a player who 1) punched a person, 2) spit on the same person, 3) fired an AK 47 in the air to frighten that same person, and 4) got caught with weed back on the team ala Urban Creyer at FU (Florduh)

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 14, 2008 4:57 PM

Oh, and that should say "yet" at the end.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

XFL gave the world He Hate Me. That was pretty significant.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:19 PM
==========

Mama Lorenzen gave the world He Ate Me. That was pretty significant also.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

You tell him, Truth

Posted by: CBT | August 14, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

You can use facts to decieve if you care to leave out other facts that never get included because it counters the point your trying to make.........

Posted by: 4th in the PGC | August 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

You can use facts to decieve if you care to leave out other facts that never get included because it counters the point your trying to make.........

Posted by: 4th in the PGC | August 14, 2008 5:14 PM

That's what I said.

Posted by: George W. Bush | August 14, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

not sure what drunk couldn't figure out Skins vs boys is the best rivalry the NFL has. Great players and results that defy expectations. Just in the past few years:

Dallas FG blocked on the last play and the Skins recover, run it and get a penalty to kick a game wiining FG with the clock at 0.

Santana burns Dallas for 2 TDs in the games final 5 minutes. Look on Parcells face ... priceless

Skins defense holds Dallas to nothing in the run game in the emotional finish to last season.

TO catches 4 TDs, and yet the Skins come back from down 12 to within 5 ... then get to the 20 with 2 minutes to go before JC tosses a pick (after Cooley dropped a pass at the 7, dang it).

There is so much great history in this rivalry. One of my favorite moments ... Darrell Armstrong, the basketball player then playing with Dallas Mavs -- gets the mike before a home game in Dallas and says "How 'bout them Redskins" after we'd beaten them earlier in the day. Once again ... Priceless

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 14, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 14, 2008 4:18 PM

Great Post Sugarloaf. I was going to do the same thing even more indepth, but that's too much reporting to do while at my real job.........

Posted by: 4th in the PGC | August 14, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

That's what I said.

Posted by: George W. Bush | August 14, 2008 5:17 PM

And if you say it enough times people will believe....

Posted by: skinswest in the DIA | August 14, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Billy Cobham

(now that's music, not that crap you kids are listening to today)

Posted by: SMACK | August 14, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

XFL gave the world He Hate Me. That was pretty significant.

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:19 PM

Redskins Insider has been trying to give the world "He Nate Me" but Nate in the PDX couldn't make the switch. I don't understand why some of the fake Nate's don't just take it up.

Posted by: Mull It | August 14, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Put some security on Dirty Thirty and don't allow him out of DC.

Posted by: jm220 | August 14, 2008 1:58 PM

jm220, my exact thoughts ... that morning still shivers my spine.

Just catching up on the previous thread and my takeaway seems different that all of the comments. I read Jasno as suggesting a page in the history books has been turned and things are looking up. I am right there. Regardless of how you personally rate Gibbs 2.0, I personally enjoyed the ride ... the ups, the downs, the up heres, the swingin souls. I am way enjoying the preseason so far, esp. the stuff that comes out of Jimzo's mouth (except, like someone else said, what he said today that sounded like a canned line from every other coach about closing up camp).

As it has been well said before, Gibbs 2.0 is what it is.* But I am already loving Jimzo 1.0.

* I remain mindful of SMACK's update to the RI comment code, comment II-25, that when someone says "it is what it is", they don't know what it is.

Posted by: dcsween | August 14, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Is what it is what is "is"?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

That's what I said.

Posted by: George W. Bush | August 14, 2008 5:17 PM

And if you say it enough times people will believe....

Posted by: skinswest in the DIA | August 14, 2008 5:32 PM

Not really, not unless you can get Colin Powell to say it before the U.N. General Assembly.

Posted by: dcsween | August 14, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

What is what it is?

Or did someone say "what it is"?

Posted by: Redcoat in the LoCo | August 14, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Is what it is what is "is"?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 6:17 PM

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

@Dauphine

Do you guys need an intern for the sports section for a while? :)

Posted by: UsedRaincoat | August 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a pheasant plucker,
I'm a pheasant plucker's son.
And I'm only plucking pheasants,
'Til the Pheasant plucker comes

Posted by: RudeCoat | August 14, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

The U.S. wrongfully attacked me, I only had a W.A.D (in my pants).

Posted by: Saddam Hussein | August 14, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Houston, we have lots of problems.

Posted by: Jon Jansen's Knees | August 14, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Painful moments is all part of being a Redskin fan

EMBRACE IT (but not for long)!!

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 14, 2008 4:26 PM

Not to disagree, but I say Painful Moments is part of being an NFL fan. There is no other game I've ever witnessed that is so mercilessly adept at ramming a fist down your throat, yanking out your heart, and forcing you to eat it.

Skins fans think angst and agony is indigenous to the DC swamps, but the truth is, every team and its followers suffer, year in and year out.

Your squad makes it to the SB, only to have their jocks handed to them.

You wanna talk about pain? Try being a Buffalo Bills fan. FOUR YEARS IN A ROW. With good teams. HoF players. And four consecutive heart wrenching defeats.

Skins fans, and God and Nate in the PDX know I'm one of the most hard-core, need to get the SJK over themselves sometimes.

It's hard, difficult, and painful, but with plenty of beer and la yerba, it can be done.

Posted by: Redskin Willie | August 14, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

How's your gentleman friend-Redskins fan?

Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008 4:25 PM


He's alright. Haven't seen him in a while, but we've been keeping in touch. Brought him back some requested items from the Redskins store.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 14, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

And rickmort, I would love to see the evidence that Jason La Canfora's work is "factually inaccuracies in some cases."

HAHA Nate in the PDX, your a J@ck@ss, you can't even cut and paste properly and I am supposed to justify my statements to you.

"If you're going to make a serious accusation like that "

AH-HAHA - Get out of here with your "serious accusation like that" statements. Serious accusation?!? Did I say Jason LaCan-FatRoundFaceAndStupidLookingGlasses wanted to kill someone? No, I didn't. So why don't you gain some perspective on things before you make and a$$ of yourself. Good ole LaCan-BeachBallHead writes his opinions for a living and passes it off as "news", he's not the leader of the free world.

Posted by: rickmort | August 14, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

not sure what drunk couldn't figure out Skins vs boys is the best rivalry the NFL has.
Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 14, 2008 5:28 PM

This must be my day to be a contrarian, but my take is a rivarly has to be two-sided and this one is plain and simply a Skins fan fantasy, albeit abetted by the greedy bastids who broadcast and therefore promote Skins/Girls games.

Having lived in the Southwest, in the heart of Girls country, I can tell you that most Girls fans don't think it's a rivarly at all. They look at the schedule, see Dallas/DC and yawn. They figure it's an easy W, then they move on to see the games against the Eagles and the Gints.

Ask Smack about this. He'll tell ya.

It galls me and every other maroon and black bleedin' SJK to see how often the Girls beat us, and those streaks of wins, what was it 112 in row or something?

Except.... Gibbs 2.0 finally put an end to all those Girls wins. Joe was 4-4 in his 4 years with a two loss season in '04 balanced by a two win season in '05.


But rivalry? No. Strictly one-sided.

Posted by: Redskin Willie | August 14, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey Nate in the PDX,

I see you are also in this thread passionately defending your man LaCan-FatRoundFaceAndStupidLookingGlasses right portray facts in a slanted way to fit his opinion, and call it unbiased reporting.

You better be careful, if your defense is to passionate and exciting someone may end up with the Chris Horton illness.

Posted by: rickmort | August 14, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickmort | August 14, 2008 7:13 PM

Wonderful. The f*ckwits are back.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 14, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

168strdteenth!!!!!

Posted by: Ms. slipitinthecan | August 14, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, you think the f*ckwits killed the blog, or is it simply the hard-core are headed home and stuck in traffic?

Posted by: Redskin Willie | August 14, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

JLC REVEALS HIS GIBBS-HATE

(70Chip) sent the following message on or about August 23, 2007:

Of course Kendall will start. We all know Joe is just covering for his guys. Don't take it so personally. He yelled at Steve Buckhants one time. It's all affectation. I would encourage you to get some Redskins employees to talk to you so you don't have to hunt down people from other teams. That way would be more "Insiderly."

_______________________________________________________
LaCanfora responds:

Gibbs treats people like they are morons, so I am calling him out on it. Don't insult that same fanbase you try to stroke all the time after you go 5-11.
trust me, i have no lack of people talking to me on this team, way more than gibbs can stomach. he can't stand the fact that i get the straight dope and don't write his dopish version of the truth in many instances (their crappy left side of the line a perfect case in point).
Thanks for reading.
Cheers.

Posted by: Deepthroat | August 14, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I am starting the campaign right now. Rinehart for RT. I do not want some washed up lineman who needs to hold or gets pushed around at will.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

You'd rather start a rookie than a vet, Anonymous?

I think a lot of Rinehart, but I think more of Zorn and Bugel and Smith. If Rinehart was ready, he'd be takin' snaps with the #1 OL.

WHEN he's ready, Jansen will move out or Kendall or Thomas, God forbid. But he ain't ready.

Yet....

Posted by: Redskin Willie | August 14, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Willie, I was elsewhere for a moment.

A bit of both I think. The trolls never help as they kill any buzz, but home/dinner time always brings a lull 'up here'

Posted by: Redcoat | August 14, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Must be all the fried chicken grease...

Posted by: Carlos Rogers' Hands | August 14, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, you think the f*ckwits killed the blog, or is it simply the hard-core are headed home and stuck in traffic?

Posted by: Redskin Willie | August 14, 2008 7:40 PM
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So RedSkin Willie and RedCoat what do you mean by hardcore and f*ckWits? Are you implying that because I do not sit in front of this web page all day everyday and comment on every piece of info J LaCan... puts here to the point where everyone knows my name "rickmort", that I am a f*uckwit and not a hardcore fan? Or by hardcore do you mean a hardcore fan, because believe me I am as burgundy and gold as they come.

After reading fatHead's latest biased dribble about Gibbs II, I felt compelled to respond as well as rebuke other a$$nine posters today.

So just because you may be here day in and day out with all this time to post on a blog to every entry and I do not, don't categorize me with the f*uckwits or non-hardcore, unless of course you are talking about me not being a hardcore blogger. Because if that's the case I'll take pride in the fact that I enjoy interpersonal contact more that blogging.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm done with work and am going to sit in some traffic.

Posted by: rickmort | August 14, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

I am starting the campaign right now. Rinehart for RT. I do not want some washed up lineman who needs to hold or gets pushed around at will.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 7:53 PM

Would you be opposed to a graduated program where we work him into sets that fit his strong suits, (not sure if he is better on run or pass) first and or late in games when a sack or 2 wont be the determining factor in a loss or win? Giving JJ more time to rest and allowing CR the time to learn on and of the field.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickmort | August 14, 2008 8:03 PM

I stand corrected. Pompous, self-aggrandizing f*ckwit.

My bad.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 14, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Can they wheelchair me in and out of the stadium?

Posted by: Jon Jansen's Legs | August 14, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

RW - Yeah I would rather have a rookie over a vet if he is a better player. Don't get me wrong, I really like the vets on our line at every other spot. But I have this bad feeling it is going to be a swinging gate in pass protection at RT. Hope I am wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Watching eagles game, McCrabbs looking good on the 5 yard outs

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

But rivalry? No. Strictly one-sided.
Posted by: Redskin Willie | August 14, 2008 7:09 PM

Willie, I completely disagree. You pay too much attention to the fans of the media machine that supports the idea of "Americas Team". I agree there are a lot of "fans" that hate Philly more. They simply jumped on in the 90s and thats all they know. I am in my 30s and my best friend is a diehard Puke. Those folks know and appreciate the rivalry. The Cowboys side gets watered down by the HUGE population of people who dip there toe in to the NFL by pulling for the marketing mogul. The Redskins are what we saw in Canton, or at least a larger %. So when you meet 100 Skins fans, they understand. Maybe 55-60 Puke fans get it. The rest just think its really neat to be a Cowboy fan...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

oh and driving to work is for suckers. Unless you work for a POS company that does not have mass-transit near buy in which case you should burn down the building and convince them to move into a city like the rest of civilized society. Speaking of which someone burn down FedEx field too for the same reason.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I am starting the campaign right now. Rinehart for RT. I do not want some washed up lineman who needs to hold or gets pushed around at will.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 7:53

You're late to the party. Rinehart himself began this campaign the day he was drafted.

Posted by: Mull It | August 14, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

When we are talking about old franchises with a fan base in the 10's of millions 55% is still millions of people who get it.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

don't categorize me with the f*uckwits.
rickmort | August 14, 2008 8:03 PM

Fair enough, rickmort.

But you put yourself in that position when you attack people like Nate (HAHA Nate in the PDX, your a J@ck@ss).

Nate is one of the truly class guys on the blog and a great human being.

You take the easy way out with your 8th grade diatribe and think you've said something witty when all you're really doing is dumping your garbage on the lawn.

You got something to say, say it. And stand by it. You have an argument to make, make it with some class and you'll find most in here ready to engage you in honest debate without rancor. Leave the name calling and the HAHA crap back on the junior high school playground where you learned it.

Posted by: Redskin Willie | August 14, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

When we are talking about old franchises with a fan base in the 10's of millions 55% is still millions of people who get it.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 8:17 PM
Yeah, that was my point. Still The Rivalry in the league...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Beep byetheway beep

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 14, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Willie, I completely disagree. You pay too much attention to the fans of the media machine that supports the idea of "Americas Team.
Anonymous | August 14, 2008 8:11 PM

Good points you made, Anon. We have obviously been around different fans. We agree to disagree.

One more thing, tho... There's NO game on the schedule I get more jacked up for than the Girls. And no losses, with the exception of playoff losses, ever seem to hurt more.

Posted by: Redskin Willie | August 14, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Anon, I hope Jansen gets his feet under him as well. You would think he would be in great shape and have good feet after having almost the entire season to rehab the fractured dislocation of his ankle he suffered in Game 1 (BTW, wasn't Jason Taylor in on that play....hmmm). If he gets beaten badly in the first few weeks, you have to believe they'll turn to Heyer or Rinehart.

Posted by: JinxMan7997 | August 14, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

You're late to the party. Rinehart himself began this campaign the day he was drafted.

Posted by: Mull It | August 14, 2008 8:16 PM


Well the coaches are not listening yet since they have him strictly playing at LG and LT.

Alex you make an interesting proposition in using Rinehart in certain situations where he may be best suited. Unfortunately OL are very rarely substituted for except in short yardage and goal line. Its best to leave the same guys in together as they are used to each others tendencies and generally know where to expect them to be. You need the continuity to have the most success IMO.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

That's it JaLa. Bare your teeth and drop any pretense of impartiality. After all, who couldn't tell your bias before? (Let's just go back to last season and check, shall we? Gibbs not going for it in on 4th-and-1 against Dallas in the first half last year, instead opting for a field goal attempt? Not aggressive enough (as usual). Gibbs going for it on 4th-and-1 a week later in Tampa? How stupid can he be? Why didn't he kick the field goal????)

Let's see: Poor offensive performance on select gameday? All Gibbs fault. Good offensive performance on select gameday? It was because Gibbs finally left Al Saunders alone.
L.Coles unhappy in offense and dropping every pass thrown his way? Gibbs fault, not Coles. Santana Moss in same offense setting several club receiving records one year later? No mention.
Twelve years with one playoff appearance in Gibbs' absence? Not the coaches fault but the owners and front office. Two playoff appearances in four years for Gibbs after inheriting a roster debacle and years of front office mistakes? Pitiful, or, at best, a mere result of parity (does that mean Sean Payton is now an idiot, too, for going from the playoffs in '06 to 7 wins in the NFL's worst division last year?).

Look, was Gibbs II a sparkling performance, fulfilling every Redskin fans dreams? Of course not. But it wasn't as if it was a complete disaster, either. He left it better than he got it, and considering he got it after 12 years of built-up problems and being out of the game perhaps it should be viewed in that lens regardless of frustrations. Does Jim Zorn deserve a window of opportunity and some patience without being put in front of the firing squad after his first back-to-back losing streak? Absolutely. But don't make the point by trashing his predecessor. If that's the case than compare Gibbs II to Spurrier and, gulp, Norv-elous Turner (worst coach ever) - then come back and tell us how bad his second go-round was, pal.

Posted by: Red Skinz | August 14, 2008 1:00 PM


This is the post everyone needs to read.

Posted by: Harry 4 Skins | August 15, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

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