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Landry Workout

Heard the LSU safety had a killer afternoon working out for the scouts down at LSU. Had someone who was at the event tell me the Skins were well represented including the big cheese on D - Double G Gregg Williams.

This is going to be an interesting two weeks. Plenty of opportunity for movement all over the place from the 6th pick, and plenty of options to select should they stay there. Bottom line to me remains that unless they upgrade that D Line one way or another, their chances of taking a huge leap forward seem scant.

Also wanted to address a few things here now as well. Got a few emails from readers about FA D Lineman Ian Scott and restrited free agent G Stacy Andrews and the Skins alleged interest in them, but acording to multiple sources the Skins have made no contact with either player.

I still won't entirely rule them out from landing an RFA of some sort Asante Samuel and Charles Grant would make sense for them should the Skins go that route), but draft prep is definitely ruling the day at Redskins Park now. They are deep in scouting trips, workouts and kids visiting the Park for interviews. Never rule out this owner wheeeling and dealing for free agents, but the draft is keeping them busy.

By Jason La Canfora  |  April 16, 2007; 2:32 PM ET
 
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First!

Posted by: Cindy | April 16, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Second!!!!!!

Posted by: oc skins | April 16, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

treis

Posted by: PDSquared | April 16, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

JLaC,

Who has the no joke final approval authority for moves on draft day?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | April 16, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

LANDRY!

M posted on the last thread that we have an elite safety and servicable ones as well.

Taylor 'was' elite with a heady player next to him. Is that Priloeu this year? I am not sure of that. I think we will be fine with Prioleau but Landry sounds like a game changer.

QB pressure begets good coverage. The reverse can also be true. I am starting to think no D lineman in the draft is worth #6. Top safety in the draft is. Best player available if no trade happens... LANDRY!

Posted by: PDSquared | April 16, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Jason-

Any word on who the Redskins like out of Day 2 of the draft?

I like Landry's talent, but when Sean Taylor came into the league, even he needed some adjustment time before he started intimidating receivers. If the Redskins draft Landry, can they win this year? My hunch is they'd get more production in 2007 from Gaines Adams or Jamaal Anderson. If their scouts think Anderson can cut it, hopefully the Skins can drop down a few spots in the first round and pick up a second round pick to take someone like Eric Weddle, who appears to be the next Ryan Clark with more of a knack for creating turnovers.

Posted by: mugamack | April 16, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Most likely, the talk about drafting Landry at #6 is a bluff to facilitate a trade up with the teams that want him but would stay put if they believe that he may fall to them. We already have one elite safety and several adequate ones. As many of you noted, the Skins greatest needs are not at the safety position. And a good safety could be found after the first round. Furthermore, the FO should take into account the cap implications. The veteran safeties' average salaries are significantly lower than those of cornerbacks, defensive ends, offensive tackles, etc. I would also argue that these three positions (plus DT) are of greater need for Redskins that a safety position. We had no pass rush and our corners were toasted many times last year. Although the offensive line did well, it is aging and OT is a very hard position to fill. A high draft pick would involve a lot of money in guaranteed bonuses, thus assuming that they draft an elite player at #6, the cap savings (the difference between what an elite FA would get vs a rookie contract) would be greater at positions other than safety. The bottom line is that the smartest thing for the team is to trade down and get some extra picks. If they cannot trade down, they will pick Landry only if the FO believes that he is by far the best of the remaining players. Because it does not appear that there is a Champ Bailey type corner in this draft and we have addressed the depth at the corner position in the free agency, they will most likely pick either DE or DT at #6. They will trade down though, if they get a fair offer.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 16, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

muck, I saw that article on Weddle, interesting and sounds good as well. But the cats outta the bag on him and it might be hard to get him if we do not get a low 2nd in a trade.

Here is an article about the DL's
http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/expert/brandt/dl

Posted by: PDSquared | April 16, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

should say mugamack

Posted by: PDSquared | April 16, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Jla,

not sure I agree about upgrading D Line being the key to success.

I think sween is in the right ball park whenit comes to the D-backfield. It seems to me that several players have indicated that they were so far outside their capabilites b/c of the weakness of the Dbackfield that it caused the line to suffer.

Also, LBs not minding their gaps had a big impact on the peception of the line as well.

I think Landry would allow for more coverage sacks and allow GG to go back to a riskier blitzing D.

I wouldn't be disappointed if they took Okoye and it would obviously be an improvement over last year, but even if it was there's no way to pin all success and failure on one pick.

Posted by: Larry Bud | April 16, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Landry seems like the real deal. Imagine a money cover guy (Landry) allowing Sean 'The Reaper' Taylor to kill people all game! Come guys, we've seen what our D can do with a 'no-name' D-Line, we scored on the Golston pick in the 6th last year, with a dominate secondary we can be sick nasty again.

LANDRY!

Go 'Skins!

J-Murf

Posted by: Big Murf | April 16, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

No to Franchise PLayers!!

Yes to trading down.

No to LAndry.

Yes to the OK Corral Kid (AKA Okoye)

Posted by: ExtremeSkins | April 16, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Why not Carriker? He seems like a hard-working, physically gifted guy for whom the only knock is that he only had 20 and 1/2 sacks in two years in a defense designed to play the run first.

He's big, faster than Okoye and, according to the above link, harder working.

I like Okoye, too and would not be disappointed with him, but why not Carriker?

His name almost sounds like character, too.

Posted by: Larry Bud | April 16, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

"First!"

Posted by: Cindy | April 16, 2007 02:40 PM

See, Lisa. Its not just a guy thing. [Maybe is a guy and an editor thing.]

JLaC dropped some critical info on us hamsters ... even though the Park is draft-focused now, we are still in the middle of a SLEEPY round two of free agency. Right after the draft, there is that momentary spasm where all the undrafted rooks get invitations, but THEN round two of free agency is going to have to start up like gangbusters.

For some reason I was looking at the Miami depth chart today (the one of nfl.com where the starting point is last season's depth chart). If you want to see postions of "need", check out Miami. The Fins are looking at quite a few compensatory picks next year and are going to have to be like the Skins at free agency shopping after the draft, including the June 1 cuts.

The Skins will be right there with the Fins. If they don't redeem the #6 pick coupon for two Day One picks, then look for two out of three positions (DE, DT, and SS) to be FA signings for starters. Plus, the fate of Lisa's beloved Shawn Springs has not yet been determined ... who's kidding who, OUR beloved Shawn Springs ...

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

On Carriker, does anyone know whether Nebraska plays base 3-4 or 4-3?

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyone been to the draft day party @ FedEx? Do they sell beer?

Posted by: PDSquared | April 16, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"the LSU safety had a killer afternoon"

OUCH! Bad choice of words today, Jason. ;)

Posted by: charlie | April 16, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Don't know, but the guy is 6'4" and 291, runs the 40 in 4.8 and the short shuttle in 4.16 is strong and smart.

And 20 and 1/2 sacks seems like a lot to me.

Posted by: Larry Bud | April 16, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Now we all know ... from the Tampa Bay Buccs website:

"The 6-6, 296-pound Carriker played defensive end on the heavy side of a 3-4 alignment, always on the tight end's side, usually lined up right over the tackle. He was often charged with two-gap responsibilities. That is, he would try to neutralize one (or sometimes two) offensive linemen and try to stop whatever came through the gap on either side of him. The ends are vitally important in a 3-4, but the defense is designed to spill most of the actual tackles to the active linebackers."

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Beer is free at the draft day party. $60 parking and no walking to the stadium.

Posted by: MrSpartan | April 16, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Larry Bud, smart is good. Super smart is better. :)

PDxPD,what about another RI pub crawl (or just a single location) for the afternoon of Day One? Might be good to arrive before 1:15, esp. to learn whether the Skins trade down (and, if not, who they picked and who might be worth any of the four picks the next day). Also, if FedEx has beer, I'm guessing $9/bottle, so ANY place else should be cheaper.

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

draft prep is definitely ruling the day at Redskins Park now.-JLC

It's amazing how much work they put into draft research and yet how little they actually value draft picks.

Posted by: Clinton Hill | April 16, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

They do have beer at the draft party ($3.00 a beer/used to be $1) but the coverage sucks. The stadium has its on commentary - they cut off during the actual pick to ESPN but during the entire draft they have 'Skins talk the entire day.

As much as well all love the 'Skins, I know I would rather listen to the ESPN guys talk about the draft rather than listening to who we have drafted over the last 5 years over and over and over again.

Posted by: Big Murf | April 16, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

4-3

Posted by: Anonymous | April 16, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

LOL MrSpartan

Posted by: PDSquared | April 16, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The consensus is that the DT/DE position is/are our greatest need(s). Unless Calvin Johnson is available at #6 (NOT), there is no way we should use that pick. Trade down and get multiple picks.

DE's and DT's are deep in this draft and quality can be found anywhere in the 1st round and probably 2nd round and HEY...we can actually afford to PAY those guys and they may even be hungry!

It's a shame anyway that we only have 1 pick out of the first, what, 130 or so picks? Crazy. Hmmm, why don't we do what the winners have been doing? BUILD a friggin' team. Heck, Gibbs may be gone next year, but many of us will still be paying for season tix for decades to come......wait......the front office knows that. D-oh!

Posted by: 400'sRow6 | April 16, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"draft prep is definitely ruling the day at Redskins Park now.-JLC

It's amazing how much work they put into draft research and yet how little they actually value draft picks.

Posted by: Clinton Hill | April 16, 2007 03:37 PM"

Clinton Hill, he didn't say "research," he said "prep". For example, Vinny is programming numbers of other team's FOs into his cell phone and practicing shouting out "and we'll throw in 5th round pick and a plasma TV."

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, was contemplating going but I live in PA so to go down would be a hike... then to drive back would be another story.

Dont like the idea of that coverage... maybe for the Bmore folks or those close (i have a couple Skins fans in bmore, go figure) we could meet up somewheres around that way.

My one friend and I always go to Glory Days, Hogettes sandwhich, Redskins potatoes, gotta love a No. Va. restaurant representing in jail bird land. They do have unitus stuff as well as raven stuff, but also skins stuff.

Let me know if you are interested or live near bmore//

Posted by: PDSquared | April 16, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Jlac, we need to address DL, don't take Landry!

The bright side is Atlanta is more likely to trade up to #6 to get him now, which puts us at #8 with maybe a 3rd rounder thrown in and Okoye still on the board.

Posted by: Jon | April 16, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

"Vinny is programming numbers of other team's FOs into his cell phone and practicing shouting out "and we'll throw in 5th round pick and a plasma TV."

Hey Danny! I'm disgruntled about the Skins. Where's my plasma TV???

Posted by: charlie | April 16, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm a big fan of Carriker. He's got some great quickness, if you look at his short shuttle times, and his 3 cone drill times, better than Gaines Adams, who is 30 pounds lighter. Not to mention that on passing downs, Carriker could slide into a tackle spot, and you could put a fresh player in at the DE spot.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | April 16, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Do any of you know that 32 peeps have been killed on Va Tech's Campus? Sad. And it didn't happen in PG County, either........

Posted by: The Real World | April 16, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back, La Canfora. Nice to hear that everyone is doing well at home. Has Rocco hired an agent yet?

Regarding free agency, the RFA window closes this Friday. Have you heard anything regarding real FO interest in any of the UFA Franchise-tagged players? Considering the lack of draft picks, the price for Franchised players seems excessive. Gibbs seems to be overly protective of his 2008 draft picks. Is this genuine, or is he is just saving them for draft day 2007?

Posted by: The Mole | April 16, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Mole, completely forgot about the RFA market. I know that the 'tenders' have round pick designations assigned to them, but that all seems like window dressing that you can get around with a trade (like NE did with Welker). Be back soon with choices for RFA DE and DT candidates ...

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Real World -

Yes, we know about Va Tech. It was discussed by several people in the previous thread.

Posted by: The Mole | April 16, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Ok, thanks. Just trying to make sure we are not keeping our heads on this page solely. We now have a 24 hour news cycle that acts kinda funny sometimes, you know?

BTW, I already forgot what the main newscycle was for last week ???? :-)

Posted by: Real World | April 16, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

DC -

I can't see the Redskins doing anything this late in the RFA market, considering draft picks are such a rare commodity this year. Besides, Snyder already had his RFA splash year (Coles, Hall, Thomas, et al.), so I am sure it doesn't have the same appeal to him anymore. Like any good hamster, Snyder is always looking for a new and higher "high".

Maybe he really is planning to trade all of the 2008 picks to move up and take CJ. Then trading the #6 pick to Chicago for Briggs plus high draft picks in 2008. Now THAT would be a big splash.

(I can hear the screaming already.)

Posted by: The Mole | April 16, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Mole;

I say do it. Then in 08 we work our butts off to recoup the 1st rounder by trading 09's draft.

Eventually the world will end and if we keep mortgaging our future, that last year we will be ahead of the game, since there will be no 2050 draft but we will have already used that pick to get us help for the 2049 season.

Snyder is a genius

Posted by: PDSquared | April 16, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Real World -

The news from Va Tech today is staggering and awful. Worse yet is waiting to hear if people one knows personally have been killed or injured. It's a very bad situation for all those involved, directly or indirectly.

Was there any real news last week? I don't remember.

Your use of the term "newscycle" had me imagining a local TV reporter riding a Suzuki, covering the latest "breaking news" from inside the Beltway.

Posted by: The Mole | April 16, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Mole, still ... indulge me. Landing an RFA obviously would need to be mutually acceptable, i.e., a trade, b/c the Skins lack the picks to do sign a guy out from under a team's tender offer.

RFA DEs of interest based on 2006 sack #s, also current starters ...
- Robert Geathers, Cincy, 10.5 sacks (not sure if Trent Green's concussion counted as a sack or a tackle)
- Bobby McCray, Jags, 10 sacks
- Jared Allen, KC, 7.5 sacks
- Cullen Jenkins, GB, 6.5 sacks (entry into lineup displaced KGB)
- Darrion Scott, Minnesota, 5.5 sacks

Skins would need to find a player at a position of depth to make the trade happen (or next year's picks, which St. Joe seems to have promised not to do).

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Mole, PDSq, that scenario elicited not a scream but a groan because you just know Snyder would love it.

At least it's a welcome distraction from the events of the day.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

At least it's a welcome distraction from the events of the day.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 04:20 PM


You are right, after a day like this I think I am going to have a medicated peaceful moment.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | April 16, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

And it didn't happen in PG County, either........

Posted by: The Real World | April 16, 2007 03:51 PM


Help me understand the point of this part of your post?

Posted by: LH | April 16, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I am all for Carriker. Maybe I am a little bias, because I am from Omaha and am a Husker fan. But it seems that there is not a better rounded player at DE available. We don't need Adams, he is undersized and we already have a "small" DE in Carter. Anderson I don't know alot about, but I don't think he has the speed that Carriker has.

Posted by: gethanr13 | April 16, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

PDS -

I still think that Snyder truly believes the CBA will lapse one of these years, and that there will be a year with no salary cap and every player will gain UFA status (as was predicted before the new CBA was signed last year). In other words, a world where NFL draft picks no longer matter - "Hog Heaven" - and only money has real value.

Posted by: The Mole | April 16, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"Heard the LSU safety had a killer afternoon working out for the scouts down at LSU."

Jason dont let Sharpton or Jackson hear you say that, youll end up out of a job

Posted by: Anonymous | April 16, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

It appears to me that there are two "can't miss" guys in this draft - CJohnson and Landry. Johnson won't be available so the Skins should take Landry. Landry will have a greater impact next season than any of the DEs/DTs available to Redskins. Go with the best available guy. I'm officially on the LaRon Landry bandwagon.

Posted by: LH | April 16, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Welcome LH... I've been waiting for a passenger. I think Larry Bud is on board as well... and I think that PG county remark was a disparaging one about the county itself. I am not sure if you know about PG (prince georges), so the reference might not make sense.

Posted by: PDSquared | April 16, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

New Name alert = #6DoubleEL

Posted by: PDSquared | April 16, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Latest word is that Jared Allen is next in line to be suspended by Roger "hanging judge" Goodell. Allen has not one but TWO DUI's over the past 12 months to atone for. Not sure we want to be picking up a DE who will be missing half the season.

I will, once again, humbly suggest Derrick Burgess of Oakland. He and his agent are ready to fight for a contract (even though he has 3 full years left on his current deal). If Big Al doesn't want to pay the man, surely The Beltbuckled One can find a way to please Mr. Burgess.

Posted by: mugamack | April 16, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

So I want to coin Landry as Lx2, or someother moniker. Let the suggestions fly!

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

mugamuck, don't you think our #6 should fetch more than Burgess and the #33 pick? Don't you think the deal would have to be sweetened with, say, a third or fourth rounder as well? (Sorry if you already responded to this idea.)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Wait, PDSquared = #6DoubleEL?

Is this just part of the campaign for the Skins to draft LaRon, meaning you'll revert if they don't pick him? It also evokes our man Randle El, which is confusing. But I am easily confused.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Landry can be an immediate starter? That seems a little hard to believe, given the complexity of the Grilliams D and how much the FS is involved in reading the defense, adjusting players and coverage... we are looking for someone to help guide S. Taylor and take care of his own business, right?

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 16, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

PDSquared/#DoubleEL/Lx2, I was counting your monikers before they hatched. Oops. In other words, don't put all your monikers in one basket.

LaRon Landry would be a fine pick. Calvin Johnson would be a fine pick. Amobi Okoye and Adam Carriker would be fine picks. There are even more guys who would be fine picks.

What we NEED is more cowbell ...

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

cload, looks like Ryan Clark -- the ideal D backfield mate for the Reaper, whose departure is lamented up here almost as much as Antonio Pierce's -- was a two-year backup type with only four starts before he joined us. He started 11 games in '04, so he must have picked up Grilliams' system pretty quickly. Maybe LaFreak can do the same.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Nate, assuming fairness begets fairness (and the Skins have been on the losing side of fairness), Burgess + #33 in exchange for #6 seems fair (assuming that Deion Branch in exchange for a first round pick was fair, when you could fairly anticipate that the Patriots would have a good year, thus a pick in the lower part of the first round).

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

sween, how you're able to effortlessly mix the factual and the funny is downright mystifying. You have skills, my friend.

I was going to request a guest blog from you, but then J-La came strolling back in (welcome back, by the way!).

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Nate, I believe that would be MISTER LeFreak to you. wink wink.

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Nate;

It is my campaign. I will revert back if they dont pick him.

I could also change it to tradewithraidersforburgess!alamugamack.... but it might be a little too long.

As for his Landrys nickname here, (Sween, not mine) LL, Lx2, RonRon, anything will do. i like the idea of Borther Laron Playing against his brother Dawan and local rival Ravens in the preseason... me likely that mucho!

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Nate, while I would agree that an additional pick would make the deal a slam dunk for The Redskins, I don't see Oakland going for it. The Redskins have already offered #6 for Chicago's #31 and Briggs. Burgess is two years older than Briggs, but missed 2 full seasons with a broken foot and a torn achilles tendon. Since these injuries aren't the types to linger (I think), he's basically got the same milage as Briggs and fills a more glaring need for the Skins. Why would Oakland give more than the Skins have essentially already shown they were willing to take from Chicago in exchange for #6?

I think the bigger impediment is that Oakland lacks DE's than can step in for Burgess if he departs. But Davis isn't the type to renegotiate with 3 years remaining on a deal.

Posted by: mugamack | April 16, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

LaFreak is a nice one!

What about LDub?

J-Murf

Posted by: Big Murf | April 16, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

PDS -

Does that mean your name will become ExLax if you change your mind again???

Posted by: The Mole | April 16, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Nate, I've been trying to think about what to guest blog about, but the well is a little dry nowadays. The need for guest blogs is more important now than ever, esp. with Jason back. I, for one, do NOT want draft prep news to be reported out of the Park b/c Big Media knows that Jason has credibility, so they will pick up on it and disseminate it. Watch how, within a few days, every one of the internet sports outlets notes that the Skins were impressed with Landry and that GG attended the LSU workout (linking to JLaC's post). Now if Jason were to report that the Skins are thinking about using the #6 for Colorado kicker Mason Crosby, well that would be a different story ...

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

sween, wasn't Portis recently referred to as the team's 'bell cow' by Gibbs? If so, he absolutely must be the guy playing the cow bell.

Ernie ELLs?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes Mole; LOL

French for Reaper is LaMort.... vote?

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

What, no love for LDub?

Haters!

Posted by: Big Murf | April 16, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

mugamuck, sounds like Jared Allen would come with a discount. Good points about Burgess and Briggs. Someone here once through out the idea of Ogunleye (Bears' DE). I'd be down with that in lieu of Briggs (but don't see how the Bears would ever be OK with it).

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Height: 6-01/2 | Weight: 213 | 40-Time: 4.35

Official Bio

Strengths:
Playmaker with a nose for the ball...Terrific athlete with superb timed speed...Has excellent size...He has great instincts, range and ball skills...Times and anticipates the action...Plays both the pass and the run with equal efficiency...He's extremely smart and a leader in the secondary...Has a lot of experience after starting as a freshman...A big hitter...Was productive throughout his career...Is versatile and has played both safety spots and even cornerback...Real tough and competitive.

Weaknesses:
He doesn't play quite as fast as his timed speed would indicate...Lacks a burst to recover when beat...Can be too aggressive at times and will miss the occasional tackle while going for the big play...Only average hands and will drop some balls.

Notes:
Brother Dawan is a former fifth round pick who starts at safety for the Baltimore Ravens but LaRon is a much better prospect than he was...Seriously considered coming out as a junior before ultimately deciding to go back to school...The total package and a great all-around football player who will remind some of ED REED

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Has "Soup" already been locked in as the term of endearment for Jason Campbell?

I love this nickname for him. Anything that can get the whole stadium rumbling with low growls of "Soooooooooooup". And think of the marketing opportunities for Campbell - McNabb wouldn't stand a chance of holding on to that Chunky Soup deal. Can Soup's mom act?

Another bonus: a new soccer-style chant:

"Soup gets knocked down...
But he gets up again...
You're never going to keep him down"

Posted by: mugamack | April 16, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

#6DoubleEL -

Way to cut and paste!

Landry/LDub is a pimp!

Posted by: Big Murf | April 16, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

PDSquared, I know about Prince George's County. I've lived there much of my life. Last I checked there have never been any mass murders there of the likes that occurred in Blacksburg today. The remark was a totally unnecessary attempt at humor.
I think DC has as many, if not more, murders with a smaller population.

Posted by: LH | April 16, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Murf, maybe DubL?

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I agree LH. I dont get what the posters point was, just general ranting I guess. ITA

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm officailly on the Landry bandwagon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bip9KlMxd04&mode=related&search=

The sheer entertainment of having this guy alongside The Reaper would be worth the 2-3 15 yard unnecessary roughness penalties per game. Look for the highlight 43 seconds in where Landry gets blocked off of the play, stays on his feet, then drills the ballcarrier. Reaper II.

Posted by: mugamack | April 16, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, that last link was the same, try this one for a higlight of Landrys hits. Seems pretty nasty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvKaO78Ov2I&mode=related&search=

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

LaMort/DubL,ELL's Bandwagon Members:

#6DoubleEL/PDSquared
Murf
LH
Larry Bud

Come on... there is plenty of room

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, forgot mugamack

LaMort/DubL,ELL's Bandwagon Members:

#6DoubleEL/PDSquared
Murf
LH
Larry Bud
Mugamack

Come on... there is plenty of room

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

mugmuck, that bonstonker video was nice (theme from The Omen, love it), but three of those hits on the QB would have been flagged in the NFL for roughing the passer b/c the QB got it off well before the hit (and in the current NFL, "well before" means nanoseconds before).

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Again, the main question for any D backfield prospect is, can you walk it out?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Sween;

I agree on the penalty front, but someone with that much pent up aggression is a football coaches dream. That one scouting report compared him to Ed Reed but he reminds me more of Polamalu. great balance, great vision, dives for everything and can also time the blitz.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Yes, you can officially count me as on the Laron Bandwagon. I thought Mel Kiper was off his rocker the first I read that he had us picking him at #6 - then the more and more I think about it, the more and more I love it.

Go 'Skins!

RED HOT! REDSKINS!

Posted by: Big Murf | April 16, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

This is why I'm hot!

Posted by: Big Murf | April 16, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

AMTTS is the OG of the Laron Landry bandwagon.

Posted by: LH | April 16, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Nate; LOL

too bad you cant imbed mp3 clips... so walk it out, walk it out....

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

My point was not to made in the RI Blog. It just spilled over to this because of the emotion that I hear too much of people on this website dogging PG County and acting as if VA is perfect. I made a ridiculous 'Imus' point about this and apologize. What I meant was the world isn't perfect and it dosen't matter where you live. If it's your time to die, it will happen.........

Posted by: Real World | April 16, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

RFA DEs of interest based on 2006 sack #s, also current starters ...
- Robert Geathers, Cincy, 10.5 sacks (not sure if Trent Green's concussion counted as a sack or a tackle)
- Bobby McCray, Jags, 10 sacks
- Jared Allen, KC, 7.5 sacks
- Cullen Jenkins, GB, 6.5 sacks (entry into lineup displaced KGB)
- Darrion Scott, Minnesota, 5.5 sacks

Posted by: dcsween

Geathers signed an extension, according to Bengals fans' web sites. Not sure what his real status is.

Bobby McCray was tendered at the First Round level; tender not yet signed. (First-round tender includes right of first refusal, first-round draft pick compensation and a $1.85 million salary.) - Sounds good but Jags site says he was an injury replacement and may not even be a starter this year; also credits playing next to Henderson (DT) as the reason for McCray's success.

Jared Allen is rumored to be the next example in the war on bad behavior. Probably not someone Gibbs would be interested in.

Cullen Jenkins - signed a 4-yr deal with Packers

Darrion Scott - only received a 3rd round tender from the Vikings and is unhappy about it. Only started as an injury replacement. He is listed as 6'3/289; 3rd round pick in 2004 from Ohio State.

One would think the Redskins might be interested in Scott, but not having a 3rd round pick in this year's draft may be the problem.

Posted by: The Mole | April 16, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I am starting the Anti-Laron Bandwagon.

If we draft at this position, it must be anywhere on the DLine. If we don't have a DLine, then Landry and Taylor would have 200 tackles each because we won't stop anyone on the front line......

Posted by: Real World | April 16, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Pent up aggression? You don't want a wife beater on your team. You want aggressive play from a concentrated and controlled weapon. Polamalu mediates (and probably levitates). The guy is complete focus (I remember during the Super Bowl runup about how he didn't like having furniture in his house).

Aggression clouds the mind, Young Skywalker.

That said, one of the coolest things I read about Sean Taylor is how he lets his body go completely limp just before a hit. Maximum inertial energy transfer. Dead weight at X mph, then contact. Boom. That takes mental discipline, not aggression.

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Just watched the extremely grainy 11 minute LeRon Landry high school highlight tape on youtube. Two things stuck out:

First and foremost, Landry has a knack for hurting people. Yes, it's a highlight tape, but every other defensive play has Landry crushing some poor running back or receiver who struggles to get back up off of the turf. He's a punisher, no doubt.

Second, very few interception highlights. And he only had 12 interceptions in 4 years at LSU. Is it possible Landry is TOO similar to The Reaper?

Posted by: mugamack | April 16, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

RW;

Someone posted on a thread in the past from the mouth of Phillip Daniels who said in a nutshell that the problems with the line was the lack of coverage behind them. Their defense uses the line to occupy blockers while DB's and LB's come from realms unknown. Also LB's and SS should make all the tackles as they want them waiting in the hole for a RB. But if OL gets out and blocks them, you have Tiki Barber esque numbers.

He said they were in a lot of 3 DL sets to help the coverage with 5 dbs (think 3-3-5). This year they are getting back to the standard 4 DL set... I am guessing LFB gives them that option since he stays in on 3rd and can cover the TE...i.e. no need for an additional DB to cover TE1.

So with our pickups of Smooter, Healthy springs, continued improvement of Golston and Griff's health... I think our line just might be fine... which equals our ability to Look at Landry, or Briggs.

Of course it is draft time and everyone is blowing smoke

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Mole, nice work. I figured I'd have to hit every site to track down who actually signed, but the nfl.com site didn't have the Geathers signing up. Bobby McCray is a name that stuck out, but I don't remember from where (he didn't even start against the Skins during Week 4). I wouldn't think any deal would involve the Skins signing him out from under the Jags tender offer, but rather the Jags and Skins would need to work out a trade (or maybe a swap of first round picks and then some). Also, remember that Tom Brady started as an injury replacement. Its not a bad way to become a starter.

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Ok Sween; I should have said plays without fear. He doesnt seem to be afraid to hit, which is absolutley crucial for football players.

I used to think smoot was in that mold until his separated shoulder game 2+ years ago. Reaper is the same... no hesitation.

So I will always like a guy like that as opposed to Deion "dont hurt me" Sanders... I think we are jinxed b/c we allowed a COWBOY on our team (Brandon Noble respectfully waived from this consideration)

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 16, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Mole, you got me thinking, so I checked out the results for the DEs in the 2004 draft. Third round: Darrion Scott. Fourth round: Robert Geathers and Jared Allen. Seventh round: Bobby McCray. Looking forward and backward, it looks like Cullen Jenkins wasn't even drafted. These are all (RFA) guys who OK sack numbers listed as starters. Quite a few guys drafted that year who aren't in the NFL anymore.

Posted by: dcsween | April 16, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

DC -

Sorry, I forgot to list the bad part - McCray is 6'6/261. In other words, another Carter-sized DE. I doubt there would me much interest based on his size.

Scott's size and numbers are impressive. He is rated well against the run as well as the pass, and has played both DL positions on both sides: LE, LT, RT, RE. He has played in a base 4-3 with both the Vikings and Ohio State, so only the nomenclature would be new for him.

With that much experience, versatility, and his most recent season's numbers, one would think he would be worth more than a 3rd round tender. Unfortunately, he originally came up as a DT, he has two higher-paid DEs on the roster with him, and the Vikings appear to be taking the ultra-cheap route this year.

Seems like a no-brainer for any competent FO in need of an experienced DE/DT to make an offer for him.

Posted by: The Mole | April 16, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Aha, #6DoubleEL, maybe we should switch from 3-3-5 to 3-3-4 and draft a stud GK to play deep, with his heels on the goal line.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

JLC is now on WashpostLive now - unfortunately they just stopped talking about football and are now going to talk about futbol.

Posted by: charlie | April 16, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm with the guys (sween, double, etc.) who think the safety may be more important than the DL in our case. We could use more pass rush, it's true. If there were a Peppers in this draft, or someone of that ilk, we'd have to get him. But what I'm hearing is that there aren't any sure things as far as pass rush this year. On the run, I'm sure it was more on the linebackers not covering their gaps than it was on the linemen. If we're still at 6, we should take Landry. Sounds good to me. UNLESS the workouts and film review convince them that there's an unstoppable pass rusher out there. We do not need another mediocre one.

Posted by: olav | April 16, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kost52 | April 16, 2007 6:21 PM | Report abuse

DC -

It always seems to be that way - there are low draft picks who have to earn starting jobs and then get decent UFA contracts later, while some high-profile, early round picks bomb out. It's probably the old "who loves the game vs. who just loves the money?" issue. It's hard to argue against guys that have to fight hard for a starting job in the NFL.

Although the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest, here are some interesting numbers about the defensive ends selected in 2006 -

Julius Peppers - 2002 - 1st round (2)
Michael Strahan - 1993 - 2nd round (40)
Osi Umenyiora - 2003 - 2nd round
Dwight Freeney - 2002 - 1st round (11)
Jason Taylor - 1997 - 3rd round (73)
Derrick Burgess - 2001 - 3rd round (63)

And two more familiar names at DE -

Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila - 5th round
Philip Daniels - 4th round

Players with exceptional talent get drafted in the first round. Players who become starters have the important intangibles, regardless of their draft position.

Posted by: The Mole | April 16, 2007 6:28 PM | Report abuse

While I like the idea of Landry, I don't think he's our solution, at the moment anyway. Grilliams has a long history of not starting rookies until very late in the season, if at all. It'd be a big ask to have a rookie come in and be the QB of our secondary. There's a lot to learn. At least with a pass rushing DE he could be used on passing downs and set free, while DE's who are better suited to defending the run (Daniels/Wynn) can be used on 1st/2nd down.

Posted by: kost52 | April 16, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

NFL Total Access is focusing on the Redskins tonight. They just interviewed Portis who is eager for the new season and thinks the Skins will have a really good team. He praised Saunders and said the difficulties last year were in learning a new system. He also said he and Ladell will have no problems working together.

The analysts also discussed the Skins needs - what went wrong last year, etc. Solomon Wilcots said he really liked what he saw of Jason Campbell.

Posted by: Lisa | April 16, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

wow i took some heat for jamarcus russel (JR) thing. i guess fans are always right.

okay let me defend my pick. calvin johnson and JR seem to be the real thing. JR especially seems something speical.

and lisa, the "experts" were saying the samething about eli manning after his first, second and third year. how's that going?

i'm not comparing JC to eli. i don't know much about JC. but JR looks good. really good. once in a decade good. very unlike michael vick and eli manning.

i'm a fan. just a fan. i only know what my eyes see. i don't have the biostats, scout info. nothing. all i know is every fan in the league is hanging on every word that is said about their team by the "experts".

can i be wrong? ummm yeah. i'm a fan.

as a fan i'm hoping for a doug williams/mark rypien kinda year from JC. so we can give st. joe a happy ending.

yes, no to D line help from the 6th pick. how old is charles grant?

Posted by: dealer | April 16, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

dealer,

NO ONE HERE is saying that JR would be a bad pick - we just don't need a qb!

If we were picking first and we knew we had Jerry Rice available, we shouldn't pick him because he wouldn't be what we need. (Outside of trading him for what we do need.)

Posted by: charlie | April 16, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

This is interesting -

From 1982-2000, just 17 safeties were selected in the first round, and only three went in the top 10 of the draft. In the last six years, seven such prospects have gone in the first round, four of them in the top 10, exceding the total of the previous 19 drafts. Even more staggering is the rate of success of the picks. In the '82-'00 time frame, eight of the 17 first-rounders developed into Pro Bowlers, and four made multiple trips to Honolulu. Of the seven first-round safeties picked in the past five years, four have already made Pro Bowls and three (Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed and Roy Williams) have been named Pro Bowlers at least three times. Two more, 2006 rookies Donte' Whitner and Michael Huff, seem headed that way.

That's a pretty good rate of success compared to other positions!

Posted by: kost52 | April 16, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

but you can argue that skins don't need a safety either. laron reminds me of seantay.

btw, who's their number 3 qb? do they have 3 QB's on the roster?

like i said...to me (and i don't even have nfl network) only 2 players are worth picking in the first round without any more compensation. CJ and JR. other than that trade down, way down and pick up some picks. so they can address desperately needed line problems, corner back problems, linebacker problems, tight end problems(the kind al saunders wants), WR problems (the kind al saunders wants). on D and O.

can't wait till sunday. i really hope they wait till draft day to do anything. cuz this is fun.

Posted by: dealer | April 16, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

also charlie, there're only two teams that don't need a QB. new england and colts(unfortuantely!).

Posted by: dealer | April 16, 2007 8:37 PM | Report abuse

ps...i thought like some "experts" out there including San Diego's GM that Ryan Leaf was going to be better than archie's boy. :)

Posted by: dealer | April 16, 2007 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Dealer, I did not refer to the NFL guys as "experts" - I said "analysts" - the two that were discussing the Skins were Rich Eisen the host and Solomon Wilcots - a former player. Wilcots did not say that JC would take the NFL by storm - simply said that so far he likes what he sees...that he was very poised on the field.

As far as Russell is concerned he may or may not be a great QB but we do not need to pick a QB with our first (and only until Round 5) pick!

To be honest - and I hate to say this because I'm from Alabama like Russell- I saw him interviewed and he has nowhere near the poise that Campbell possesses.

Posted by: Lisa | April 16, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Good solid blog day up here, y'all. Not break-out-the-haikus good, exactly, but a strong showing with J-La leading the way.

Let's keep it going! I want to see some consistently strong blog action up to, during and beyond the draft. So many possibilities, so much drama, so much to mull over.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

dealer, I can't believe you didn't seize that opportunity to criticize P.Manning, your fave whipping boy up here.

I understand where you're coming from on the Russell and Johnson thing, as far as incredible talent and all that, but seriously, would you really be happy if our only pick in the first four rounds of the draft was a QB or WR? Good grief, that would be a shabingus of the highest order. Shabingus maximus.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

sorry...analysts, experts...same thing right?

lisa, i want JC to succeed. i really do. as a skin even. i'm just saying that skins shouldn't bother picking anyone else other than those two players. or trade down. that's all i'm saying. yes, i wouldn't mind if they traded up to get these two.

yeah, JR can totally be the next ryan leaf or whatever. sure.

sorry watching larry king...

Posted by: dealer | April 16, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Russell seems like a risky pick, in a situation where we may not have to take a risk... think of how many top-five "sure thing" QBs have not panned out.
And Russell -- for all his physical tools -- may need a little time to adjust to the pro game.
Anyway, we draft too far down to get him. But it's an interesting 'thought experiment'.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 16, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

nate, to answer your question. yes, i'd like that better than anything else they would do in the first round. c'mon no ONE player is going to help them this year(in the first round).

they need to either trade up to select one of those two or get the heck out of the first round. cuz look at their track record...
patrick ramsey, lavar arrington, carlos rogers, that WR from clemson...

seantay? that's it? and what he do last year?

what amazes me is that you guys trust them to pick a good player in the first round. why? and if you say "well, laron looks really good." says who? us, the fans?. the only experts i care to listen to is the patsies FO. and Colts (barf) FO. you know what i'm trying to get at?

Posted by: dealer | April 16, 2007 9:17 PM | Report abuse

We all have "trust issues" with this front office, dealer. Scott Pioli ain't walkin' through that door. Ozzie Newsome ain't walkin' through that door. Bill Polin ain't walkin' through that door.

I'm just saying that I will be distraught if we don't use that #6 pick or its value for DEE-fense, DEE-fense. I actually have faith in our offensive line and our skill players and yes the two-headed monster of Gibbs and Saunders. It's the D that needs help, the D that needs a spark that was lacking last year.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

dealer - if we still had Brunell and had not given up so much to get JC I'd be right with you on Russell. But it looks like Campbell has a decent shot to pan out as a quality starting QB and we have much bigger needs to fill.

To answer your Charles Grant question:
Full Name: Charles Gabriel Grant
Born: September 3, 1978
Colquitt, GA
Height: 6-3
Weight: 290 lbs. Age: 28
Pos: DE
Experience: 5 years
College: Georgia
Drafted: Year:2002 Round:1 Pick:25, Saints

Posted by: cdubb | April 16, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Another decent run playing DE. But I doubt they would trade him for a swap of 1st rounders. They draft 18.

Here's something the Bengals should consider to get more picks in the NFL draft: Trade franchise-tagged defensive end Justin Smith. Unable to work out a long-term deal with Smith -- which would get his $8.6 million cap figure down -- the Bengals should give him permission to seek a trade with a club willing to deal first- and third-round picks.
-- Dayton Daily News

Posted by: cdubb | April 16, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

dealer - I can't believe that you're saying you want us to trade up to take JaMarcus! The QB position is not a need! Having a superstar QB doesn't necessarliy bring Championships, ask Dan Marino! In 2005, when we made the playoffs, our offense was ranked 11th, our defense 9th. Last season our offense was 13th and our defense 31st. That tells me, that it's the defense that while our offense could still do with some improvements (especially redzone), it's our defense which needs to take some major strides. With the exception of trading him on draft day, it makes zero sense to trade up and draft Russell.


Posted by: kost52 | April 16, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Barry Svrluga gave you some serious blog props from the Nationals Journal Jason. You rule the WaPo blogs. And remember... If there's ever a real street blog war (a la Anchorman) I'll stab someone in the heart with a Trident for you Jason. Good to have you back.

Cindy, your deeds have not gone unnoticed. Although I hold little clout in any circle of power that could do anything about it... I just want to say thanks.

Posted by: Dorf | April 16, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Dealer,

Nice of you to take the convenient route and name players that did not succeed that we drafted in the 1st Round.

Just going off the top of the dome, but I am sure you could pull out 4 1st round busts of the last 8 years from several teams around the league. But just for conversations sake, lets also look at the other 1st round picks the 'Skins have had :

2000 - Chris Samuels (Pro Bowl)
1999 - Champ Bailey (I think we all know who he is)
2003 - this was a strange year (talking 1st round pick - wise) we gave our pick to the Jets for Coles. Coles caught what?, Like 190 balls in 2 years for us - then turned Coles into Santana Moss. So let's say our 2003 1st Round pick was Santana Moss.

3 players, all who have gone to Pro Bowls that the 'Skins picked. (2 if you want to get technical).

Now, off the top of your dome, how many other teams can say that 25% of their last 8 1st Round Picks have gone to the Pro Bowl?

Now I would also like to add that there have been several mid-round picks that have turned into absolute studs! We have had the least amount of picks in the entire NFL draft since the year 2000 - this included the Texans that did not enter the league until 2002(?)....but we still have managed to find starters all across the draft board.

2006 - Kedric Golston - 6th Round (looked good but not quite a 'stud' yet, but def starter material after rookie campaign)
2004 - Chris Cooley - 3rd Round
2003 - Derrick Dockery - 3rd Round (would still be on out team if the Bills owner was not insane to pay him that much money)
2002 - Ladell Betts - 2nd Round
2002 - Rock Catwright - 7th Round (special teams pimp)
2001 - Fred Smoot - 2nd Round
1999 - Jon Jansen - 2nd Round

Chew on that for a minute.....

Posted by: Big Murf | April 16, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Dorf, love the blog pride.

How 'bout those plucky Nats? Took it to the Bravos tonight. Good times.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 16, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

New post.

Posted by: JustMe | April 16, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

big murf, i think charley casserly selected champ and probly even the ricky williams trade which brought lavar and samuels.

and smoot wasn't their pick either. it was marty's pick.

so name me your first rounders again?

and no, i didn't conveniently forget. i'm just saying this FO hasn't done shti in the draft. except mortgage the future. cooley=2 picks.
JC= 2/3 picks.
mcintosh=2 picks.
betts= 2 picks (a running back that's been injury prone for 4 years and in his breakout year has 6 fumbles is nothing to "write home about".)

NEXT!

Posted by: dealer | April 16, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Dealer,

To quote your post that I responded to :

"they need to either trade up to select one of those two or get the heck out of the first round. cuz look at their track record...
patrick ramsey, lavar arrington, carlos rogers, that WR from clemson..."

Only 1 of those picks is a 'Gibbs' pick if that's what you are referring to. So your last post makes no sense :

"big murf, i think charley casserly selected champ and probly even the ricky williams trade which brought lavar and samuels.

and smoot wasn't their pick either. it was marty's pick."

Make up your mind. I can't use previous coaches/GM's/whatever, but you can? I see how you argue.

Shake, Shake, and Roll out!

Posted by: Big Murf | April 16, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

I was driving in my car listening this weekend to a Tampa sports station [I miss Kornheiser and the DC sports....]and their special guest was Chris Landry.

Landry as many of you know was an NFL coach, scout, and now serves as a consultant for a few NFL teams and is employed by Fox Sports Radio.

They were discussing the first 4 picks [Tampa selects #4] when suddenly another Redskin fan tranplanted to FL due to work like myself, telephoned.

Landry's comments about our Skins were tough to hear. They pierced like a knife through hot butter.

He said Joe Gibbs has proven himself as a man, leader and coach. However the FO is what has set back this franchise. Landry said that for the last 7 years the FO has tried quick fixes, paying out too much money and not building through the draft. He actually said the draft for the Skins this year is so depleted because of bad choices under Danny and Vinny.

Then the big close by Landry was this. "I don't understand why Vinny Ceratto, is where he is, and I don't know of ANY other NFL team that would have Ceratto in that position".

It was so sad. We are the laughing stock as far as FO goes in the NFL. To hear this over radio where they know they are not in Redskin country and to be talking about us this way... well, it just made me sick!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | April 16, 2007 09:46 AM

Posted by: Redskin Ray | April 17, 2007 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Last!

Posted by: Not Cindy | April 17, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

i like asunte so wat about and
CHARLES GRANT wat a beast lets hear more about that too.

Posted by: b.r.f.e -biggest redskins fan ever | April 17, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

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