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Caldwell: Anthony Armstrong is 'a big-play guy'

Indianapolis Colts Coach Jim Caldwell is impressed with several Redskins players, LaRon Landry, Brian Orakpo and Anthony Armstrong among them.

Landry -- the NFC defensive player of the week for Week 5 -- and Orakpo have made big plays during the Redskins' consecutive victories, and "those guys certainly move around extremely well and create some problems for you," Caldwell said. "They are very active guys who cover the field extremely well. They both are very strong players and, obviously, they play their position extremely well."

And then there's Armstrong. It's clear that the speedy wide receiver is a major big-play threat, Caldwell said.

"It does not take you but two snaps [to see] he can flat-out run," Caldwell said. "He is a guy who's got great speed, obviously. He is averaging somewhere around 26 yards [26.9] a catch. He is a big-play guy.

"You can see he can get down the field. He can run by you. He can run away from you. He is a guy with talent. You couple that with [Santana] Moss, who is certainly a talented guy, and [Joey] Galloway, they've got a bevy of guys who can do the job."

By Jason Reid  | October 15, 2010; 11:16 AM ET
Categories:  Anthony Armstrong, Brian Orakpo, LaRon Landry  
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Comments

That will be the first and only time this year that an opposing coach mentions Joey Galloway as a threat.

Book it!

Posted by: oh_boy1 | October 15, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

That will be the first and only time this year that an opposing coach mentions Joey Galloway as a threat.

Book it!

Posted by: oh_boy1 | October 15, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I wonder if he paused after mentioning Moss.

Caldwell: "You've got Moss and...and...and...oh yeah, Galloway, there's a bevy of guys."

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | October 15, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

What was Caldwell's response to Reid's question about Devin Thomas?

Posted by: themantoyou | October 15, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

WTF. He makes the Skins WR sound like the greatest show on field grass.

Posted by: TWISI | October 15, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

What was Caldwell's response to Reid's question about Devin Thomas?

Posted by: themantoyou | October 15, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse


That they tried to "rent" him for a couple of weeks. It's too bad, he's such a moron, he would've given all the wrong info...

Posted by: rich20ssu | October 15, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Caldwell: "You've got Moss and...and...and...oh yeah, Galloway, there's a bevy of guys."

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | October 15, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Hahaha. More like

Caldwell: "You've got Moss and...[turning to his assistant coach pointing to a player on the Skins roster sheet asking him if this guy is still in the league or a misprint]...and Galloway, there's a bevy of guys."

Posted by: oh_boy1 | October 15, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Caldwell: "Galloway was good 5 years ago...but since I'll be Mr. Vanilla, we'll pretend it's 2005 for this interview."

Posted by: rich20ssu | October 15, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

What was Caldwell's response to Reid's question about Devin Thomas?

Posted by: themantoyou | October 15, 2010 11:30 AM

Colts liked Devin Thomas. They put in a waiver claim for him but lost to the team with the worst record in the league.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 15, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Major League...switch the names...


"Galloway is dead!"

"Well cross him off then..."

Posted by: rich20ssu | October 15, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Colts liked Devin Thomas. They put in a waiver claim for him but lost to the team with the worst record in the league.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 15, 2010 11:39 AM |

Probably had more to do with who they're playing this week than actually "liking" him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 15, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how Peyton feels about this...who is Peyton going to become when that happens?

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Todd Collins

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 11:29 AM

Come on monk...Peyton is no Todd Collins...and never will be!

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Come on monk...Peyton is no Todd Collins...and never will be!

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 11:49 AM

...and he thanks God everyday for it. F Cod Tollins

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 15, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse


Why bother with MacIntosh?

If he's playing well, and his price rises, let him walk and test the FA market.

Between Zo, Riley, Henson and HB Blades, we can probably find a cheaper alternative who will give us roughly the same kind of play (if not better)...it's not like Rocky is have a ProBowl year or anything like that.

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

with the old regime armstrong and banks never make the team


and give it up w/ bashing galloway, he's caught a deep ball against the texans, and a huge 3rd down against the eagles, a couple others vs the pack, it's not much but its somthing, it's contribution

look the guy wanted to retire, but devin thomas is a bama, it's not galloway's fault that thomas sucks, which is why he's gone now, galloway won't be starting for too much longer aiiiiiight, but he hasnt been a complete waste like many many others who have strolled through the organization

HAIL

Posted by: retroskins14 | October 15, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

"If he's playing well, and his price rises, let him walk and test the FA market."

I don't know that there's going to be a FA market. The CBA expires in March, discussions will heat up in late June/ early July, and it's possible we're looking at a lockout by October. If I were a player, I wouldn't count on an offer.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 15, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Why bother with MacIntosh?

If he's playing well, and his price rises, let him walk and test the FA market.

Between Zo, Riley, Henson and HB Blades, we can probably find a cheaper alternative who will give us roughly the same kind of play (if not better)...it's not like Rocky is have a ProBowl year or anything like that.

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 11:53 AM


100% agree.

On Madden, I let McIntosh and Rogers walk in FA and got thru the initial wave of FA, the draft, and into the preseason without anyone picking them up. Something tells me life will imitate art on this one...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 15, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

The thing fanz forget about Joey Galloway is that he's always where he's supposed to be in a given pattern. If McNabb wants to, he can find him. So far they haven't thrown much at him, but they certainly could have. Likely he'll have a breakout game before the season's over, but they're not spreading the ball around as much as people thought. Fred Davis isn't playing badly, either, but the ball isn't coming his way.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 15, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Why bother with MacIntosh?

If he's playing well, and his price rises, let him walk and test the FA market.

Between Zo, Riley, Henson and HB Blades, we can probably find a cheaper alternative who will give us roughly the same kind of play (if not better)...it's not like Rocky is have a ProBowl year or anything like that.

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

If he continues to be among the leaders in tackles by mid season and keeps hitting hard he just might make the Pro Bowl.

And why not McIntosh? The front office knows what he's worth, and I'd rather spend money on the player that's already been in the system for a year and might get better at it next year than take a chance on another player that might play worse and be ANOTHER FA bust!

We have a lot of needs for next year, and I wasn't planning on ILB being one of them. We only have like 4 or 5 draft picks, most notibly a 1st and 2nd. It would be nice to pick up a big NT with one of them, and the other can be maybe an OG or WR, with RB being addressed in the later rounds, as well as FS and DE. The upgrade for ILB will have to come at a later time.

That's the way I see it.....

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

"If he's playing well, and his price rises, let him walk and test the FA market."

I don't know that there's going to be a FA market. The CBA expires in March, discussions will heat up in late June/ early July, and it's possible we're looking at a lockout by October. If I were a player, I wouldn't count on an offer.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 15, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse


First, I don't believe there will be a lockout or shut down. This is not the NHL where business is simply no longer viable. I believe the NFL stands to lose about $1billion in a lockout next season - too many people (owners, players, agents, TV execs) are making too much $$ to risk the thing coming apart.

Second, if there's a lockout next season, then there will be an FA market the year afterwards. Same logic applies.

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

The thing fanz forget about Joey Galloway is that he's always where he's supposed to be in a given pattern. If McNabb wants to, he can find him. So far they haven't thrown much at him, but they certainly could have. Likely he'll have a breakout game before the season's over, but they're not spreading the ball around as much as people thought. Fred Davis isn't playing badly, either, but the ball isn't coming his way.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 15, 2010 12:06 PM |

This type of stuff is to be expected with a team inexperienced in their offense. McNabb has his trusted guys and that's who he mostly looks at. Thats why Moss and Cooley get most of the throws. Armstrong is starting to creep in there and the further along we get in the playbook the more other people will get looks.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 15, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Come on monk...Peyton is no Todd Collins...and never will be!

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 11:49 AM

I don't know, they are even starting to look like each other, with that long flamingo neck, big gay adam's apple, and STUPID throwing style!

Man, how many pads does Manning wear? I'm surprised he can even get his pants on with the braces and stuff he wears. Let's face it, dude is falling apart!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

If he continues to be among the leaders in tackles by mid season and keeps hitting hard he just might make the Pro Bowl.

And why not McIntosh? The front office knows what he's worth, and I'd rather spend money on the player that's already been in the system for a year and might get better at it next year than take a chance on another player that might play worse and be ANOTHER FA bust!

We have a lot of needs for next year, and I wasn't planning on ILB being one of them. We only have like 4 or 5 draft picks, most notibly a 1st and 2nd. It would be nice to pick up a big NT with one of them, and the other can be maybe an OG or WR, with RB being addressed in the later rounds, as well as FS and DE. The upgrade for ILB will have to come at a later time.

That's the way I see it.....

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:07 PM

I don't think he was talking about looking for a McIntosh replacement in FA. He named 3 or 4 guys that are already on our team. But I'm with you on Rocky. Especiaaly since I think that Fred Davis and Andre Carter are better options for picking up maybe a 4th rounder or if we're real lucky a 3rd.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 15, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't think he was talking about looking for a McIntosh replacement in FA. He named 3 or 4 guys that are already on our team. But I'm with you on Rocky. Especiaaly since I think that Fred Davis and Andre Carter are better options for picking up maybe a 4th rounder or if we're real lucky a 3rd.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 15, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, makes sense, maybe I misread that a little. But I don't agree that Zo would be a good replacement, I think he's better on the outside. Riley should be the future starter there, but he might not be ready yet, and Henson is the wildcard. If he can stay healthy and play like he did last preseason he should be at least the backup, which means it looks like HB Blades is done in a Redskins uniform, joining Andre Carter, Chris Horton, and Phillip Buchanon for next year.

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

That's the way I see it.....

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse


They also know what they have in Henson, Riley, Blades and Zo. Of course it all depends on the asking price. My point is that there are viable alternatives at ILB right now and we've got problems at other positions and need the $$ to re-sign other guys.

IMO, it is a priority for me to extend Jamaal Brown assuming he gets through the year healthy.

If the Skins D has a good year, then Carlos Rogers is going to demand #1 $$ and the sad truth is that we just might give it to him b/c the alternatives are pretty scant. Buchanon is on a one year deal and KEvin barnes isn't exactly ready to take over a starting spot, and we traded away Justin Tryon.

Daniels, Holliday, Keaomatu are all 30+ guys who expire in 2012. Kedric Golston is on a one-year deal. Adam Carriker is an FA in 2012 and he's the youngest stud on the line right now, so we're probably looking at a hefty extension for him. So you need to invest resources in your Dline.

Not to mention the price tag for extending Donovan McNabb - a price that will keep going up with every Skins victory and every Vikings loss.

And, of course, LaRon Landry needs to get locked down long-term.

If I'm BA, then extending Rocky Mac comes after these concerns. And if I'm ROcky mac and I have a good year, I'm not exactly ready to be 8th in line to get paid by this organization especially after I was ticked off about the RFA tender.

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, they are even starting to look like each other, with that long flamingo neck, big gay adam's apple, and STUPID throwing style!

Man, how many pads does Manning wear? I'm surprised he can even get his pants on with the braces and stuff he wears. Let's face it, dude is falling apart!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:10 PM

Well if Peyton becomes Collins...then who will Todd become...oh forget it...

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Caldwell's blowing smoke.

I hope Anthony isn't listening to a word of that and keeps on the grind, he's made a few nice plays but is in no position to relax.

Posted by: AdamCr | October 15, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

They also know what they have in Henson, Riley, Blades and Zo. Of course it all depends on the asking price. My point is that there are viable alternatives at ILB right now and we've got problems at other positions and need the $$ to re-sign other guys.

No way they know what they have in Henson and Reiley. Both have been preseason players. And HB come on do you really want to see him as a starter. Rocky is playing great knows the systme and likes it. You need to resign the dude or oyur back to square one.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 15, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

The thing fanz forget about Joey Galloway is that he's always where he's supposed to be in a given pattern. If McNabb wants to, he can find him. So far they haven't thrown much at him, but they certainly could have. Likely he'll have a breakout game before the season's over, but they're not spreading the ball around as much as people thought. Fred Davis isn't playing badly, either, but the ball isn't coming his way.

Posted by: Samson151

The reason DMac doesn't look for JG much is because he doesn't have the quickness to get open short. Still has downfield speed, but that's different than the quickness that Moss and AA have. Cools has enough to beat a linebacker.

Posted by: NYPDee | October 15, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree with everything you just said, but the coaching staff is falling in love with Rocky. So barring a serious injury or lack of production, he'll be here next year, and hopefully he won't break the bank. Riley is not ready yet, and not sure Henson can make the same impact in the Regular Season against the starters as he is in the PreSeason against the backups.

Our front sucks, lets just admit it. Kemo should stick to entering eating contests cause that all he seems to be good at. Golston, even though he has a motor, is undersized and a backup at best. Holliday and Daniels are overachieving in respect to their age, but dinosaurs eventually get extinct, they will be done soon. Carriker is the only real starter, with Jarmon a possibility, as long as he stays healthy and watches those helmet to helmet hits.

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

No way they know what they have in Henson and Reiley. Both have been preseason players. And HB come on do you really want to see him as a starter. Rocky is playing great knows the systme and likes it. You need to resign the dude or oyur back to square one.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 15, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse


Yes. It would be great to re-sign him to big fat contract, if only the league operated on Monopoly $$.

Do you think we NEED to re-sign Rocky ahead of:

*Donovan McNabb?
*Jamaal Brown?
*Extending Adam Carriker?
*Carlos Rogers or paying for another starting-caliber CB?
*Extending LaRon Landry?
*Finding/Paying a #1 WR?

If so, which of these contract/personnel situations do you downgrade?

If not, how much cash do you think is left over after these deals, and do you think Rocky would be happy with it?

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Snyder know how to move the money around in contracts to spread the love. Im not to worried about it.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 15, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

he'll be here next year, and hopefully he won't break the bank.

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

False hope, my friend.

Rocky was p!ssed at this organization for the RFA tender. He was one of the last guys to sign it, and I believe he was trying work out a trade/release.

If you think he's going to have a good year, and then come back with hat-in-hand and give the Skins a discount, you're nuts.

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Well if Peyton becomes Collins...then who will Todd become...oh forget it...

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Now you're confusing me, let's stop this NERD TALK!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

* More better Olineman

as well.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 15, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Colts liked Devin Thomas. They put in a waiver claim for him but lost to the team with the worst record in the league.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 15, 2010 11:39 AM |

Probably had more to do with who they're playing this week than actually "liking" him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 15, 2010 11:45 AM

It's hard not to like DT from a far, he oozes talent...No way the Colts wanted him for his Skins playbook knowledge. They would have been sadly disappointed.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 15, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Snyder know how to move the money around in contracts to spread the love. Im not to worried about it.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 15, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse


?????

Snyder hasn't got a frickin' clue how to move money around in contracts.

This team was in the 7th stage of salary cap hell a year ago. It's only saving grace was the CBA breakdown and the fact that we had an uncapped year.

That allowed us to release a bunch of dead-weight veterans and rework the Hall/AH contracts; otherwise we are the NY Knicks of the NFL.

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

* Indoor practice facility

Posted by: Stu27 | October 15, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Dude weve signed so many people its the same story. Signing bonuses BIG base salery SMALL, not against the cap.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 15, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

he'll be here next year, and hopefully he won't break the bank.

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

False hope, my friend.

Rocky was p!ssed at this organization for the RFA tender. He was one of the last guys to sign it, and I believe he was trying work out a trade/release.

If you think he's going to have a good year, and then come back with hat-in-hand and give the Skins a discount, you're nuts.

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the situation is as bad as you say it is. Sure, he wanted to be paid THIS year, and he was the last one to sign, but he only missed 1 set of offseason activities, and he eventually came in, he even signed the injury waiver and participated in the offseason conditioning.

There are still Miami players here, we are the team that drafted him, and he likes the new scheme. I don't think he's that pissed, he knows he has to play well this year into a contract, and so far he's doing ok.

I wouldn't say we should give him a discount, but he's not a retard, (close sometimes, but not full-retard) so he should know he won't get paid like the top 5 or 10 ILB in this league. He will want fair compensation, and that is where I'm stumped. I'll just trust the Front Office and hope everyone is reasonable.

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Snyder hasn't got a frickin' clue how to move money around in contracts.

Posted by: p1funk | October 15, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

p1funk = NERD for making me laugh and blow pudding out my nose, yuck.....

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Anyone think that AA is getting pissed that everyone is going on about Rocky on his thread?

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Caldwell: Anthony Armstrong is 'a big-guy' - Jason Reid

Wow, a little too much information. Do you think AA's been giving away any secrets while they spend 'quality time' together? Way to post x-rated stuff Reid, let's keep it clean you perve.

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

p1funk = NERD for making me laugh and blow pudding out my nose, yuck.....

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:03 PM

Billy: You know I like Snack Pack. Why can't you just give me a Snack Pack?

Juanita: I thought I was your snack pack.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

"This team was in the 7th stage of salary cap hell a year ago. It's only saving grace was the CBA breakdown and the fact that we had an uncapped year.

That allowed us to release a bunch of dead-weight veterans and rework the Hall/AH contracts; otherwise we are the NY Knicks of the NFL.

Posted by: p1funk"

Gotta disagree.

One, the Redskins reworked all of those contracts prior to the CBA negotiation year to allow players like ARE, Carter, Samuels, Daniels, and Griffin to have their contracts terminated within 2 years. The uncapped CBA year was unnecessary for us to unload dead weight.

Two, this team has been in the 7th stage of salary cap hell since Snyder signed Deion Sanders and Mark Carrier, yet this team has ALWAYS managed to move money around, restructure contracts, and manipulate the cap in order to sign big money free agents in the offseason or re-up current players with record-setting contracts.

The Redskins are second to none in managing financial decisions with regards to the salary cap. That's why the Redskins can consistently be top 3-4 in the league in payroll on a yearly basis while still maintaining salary-cap integrity without penalty.

Now giving that money to the proper talent is a different story...

Posted by: psps23 | October 15, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

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So anyway, draft draft draft

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Billy was the best!!!

Nudey Magazine Day!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Shampoo is good, conditioner is better.

Stop staring at me swan.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 15, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Slurp, build through the draft, slurp, enhance nucleus with FAs, slurp,

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Stop talking with a d*ck in your mouth, it's rude!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Why all the negativity about McIntosh? Are u redskins fans? We drafted him, he works hard, decent locker room guy, AND leads the team in tackles.

Oh, I forgot he's on the "ok to player hate list" brought to you by the "we're allowed to be player haters and pabriAn isn't" RI doosh-structure

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Billy was the best!!!
Nudey Magazine Day!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:21 PM

Haha...that movie is still on 24 hours a day on one channel or another.

You're not cool unless you pee your pants!

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Colts liked Devin Thomas. They put in a waiver claim for him but lost to the team with the worst record in the league.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 15, 2010 11:39 AM |

Probably had more to do with who they're playing this week than actually "liking" him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 15, 2010 11:45 AM

Come on, scamp. They want to pay this guy, for the next 11 games, when he was cut because he didn't know the offense?

More likely, they wanted him to be in a music video with Manning.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 15, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were a kid?

Posted by: oh_boy1 | October 15, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Point-Counterpoint: A Contract Extension For McNabb?

By Rich Tandler

The Redskins gave up a second-round draft pick this year and a conditional pick in 2011 for the services of Donovan McNabb. His contract expires after the season and that has many wondering about the future. Why hasn't he signed an extension? Are the Redskins driving a hard bargain? Does Donovan want to keep his options open and play in 2011 where the weather is, well, chilly? And, has his performance justified the mega-deal he is likely to be seeking? The Redskins quarterback is the subject of today's edition of the wildly popular Point-Counterpoint.

Point--What's the hurry? McNabb has said that he wants to stay and finsh his career here, and the Redskins say that they have every intention of giving him a new deal. Let it play out. There are other things for the organiazation and for McNabb to worry about now, like winning football games.
Counterpoint--It's not like these guys can't multi-task. McNabb has an agent and his involvement in the talks is minimal. Bruce Allen isn't a part of putting the game plan together. Both sides are saying all of the right things, but if they were really serious about this they would lock themselves up in a conference room at the Dulles Marriott and not come out until a deal is done. The truth is that both sides are keeping their options open. That's smart business but not great PR. That's why both sides are saying the right things, but not signing on the line.

Point--McNabb wants to make sure that he has an escape hatch. The Redskins are going along OK now, but at the same time, they aren't looking like Super Bowl contenders anytime soon. The offensive line is better than last year's edition, but it has a long way to go before it can be considered rebuilt. The Anthony Armstrong story is nice, but he is hardly a cornerstone wide receiver. By the time those areas are fixed, McNabb could be done. The man wants a Super Bowl trophy, which will just about lock up a spot in the Hall of Fame. If he can't do it here, he may go elsewhere to do it, like a certain team that is likely to have an opening at quarterback next year after (if) No. 4 retires. The Vikings have a solid offensive line, the best running back in the business, and a solid corps of receivers whether or not Randy Moss sticks around. And Brad Childress is a McNabb fave going back to when the Vikings head coach was the Eagles’ offensive coordinator.
Counterpoint--That Minnesota story has been floating around with zero substiantation almost since the moment that McNabb was traded to the Redskins. It's a rumor based on sheer speculation. And would the Redskins really give up a second, plus a third or fourth, if they didn't desperately want to keep McNabb and if they weren't virtually certain that they could? You know Dan Snyder. He will do whatever it takes to get a deal done.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 15, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Slurp, build through the draft, slurp, enhance nucleus with FAs, slurp,

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Stop talking with a d*ck in your mouth, it's rude!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:24 PM
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now that's a gangsta reply...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 15, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

(con't)

Point--Like it would be the first time that the Redskins threw a couple of high draft picks in the trash can? Look, it's one thing to be willing to pay a player whatever he wants. The Redskins are very familiar with that modus operandi. It's quite another to pay a player fair market value, a concept that has proven to be foreign to the organization. The Tom Brady and the (upcoming) Peyton Manning deals are supposed to be the benchmarks for McNabb's contract. Excuse me? When I see a ring, or three, on Donovan's hand, or see him lead his team to a record string of 12-plus win seasons, we can then talk about that kind of cash. Until then, he should lower his expectations considerably.

Counterpoint--Donovan isn't looking for Brady or Manning money. That is just a comparison point. He is a notch or two below those two, and he will settle for pay commensurate with his performance. Again, more speculation gone crazy.

Point--McNabb has the Redskins on a roll. Nobody thought that they would go into Philly and win, and they were home underdogs against the Cowboys and Packers. There is no way they win those games last year, and the difference is McNabb. His ability and leadership have taken the Redskins from being a laughingstock to being a respected contender. He's a top-notch player worthy of a top contract.
Counterpoint--Sure, McNabb has had his moments. But as we know, the Redskins are three plays away from being 0-5, and McNabb wasn't on the field for any of those plays. The Redskins will continue to have games go down to the wire as long as McNabb continues to be so erratic with his passes. He misses almost half-a-dozen wide-open receivers a game. A 55 percent completion rate doesn't cut it for a so-called elite QB.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 15, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse


Oh, I forgot he's on the "ok to player hate list" brought to you by the "we're allowed to be player haters and pabriAn isn't" RI doosh-structure

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:25 PM |

you just wrote what everyone on the board thinks ass lips

Posted by: hessone | October 15, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I AM THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse


pabrian2003 = tampax from pampatex

he-he-he

Posted by: hessone | October 15, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Hessone pee's his pants.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

HaHaHa, that's funny, we've got the trifecta:

Pees his pants - Hessone

Poops his pants - Poopy_McPoop

Creams his pants - Pabrainiac2003

Oh that's right, brainiac doesn't cream his own pants, that's from the OTHER guy!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

+ Rocky really embodies the type of D that we have now. Fast ,tenacious, and hard hitting. Another high motor player...

Posted by: Stu27 | October 15, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse


the following is a list of MIA's

MrIrvin88 = I need batteries for my vibrator
PampaTex = TamPax
10peterbilt = 10"peterthroat
BigBlueStar = BlueStarOintment
Poopy_McPoop = Barno1's closet lover

is there a reason these morons are not posting on the board anymore ?

Posted by: hessone | October 15, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

pabrian2003 = tampax from pampatex

he-he-he

Posted by: hessone | October 15, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, there's no way this dude is a Redskins fan. In fact, I think it's a chick, Brianna, from PA!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

is there a reason these morons are not posting on the board anymore ?

Posted by: hessone | October 15, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Yep, it's called 1-3. Plus we are winning. Now guarenteed those tools are reading our posts but too CHICKEN to say anything about it. F U C K Em!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

You're on a roll today monk...I guess someone got lucky last night!

So you sticking with 24-20?

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Extend Jamaal brown? All he's shown is that he's ALMOST as goo as Heyer.

That's a good one. Extend brown.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

What do tweasers and self-satisfaction have in common? Go ahead, show 'em Monk811

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse


Yep, it's called 1-3. Plus we are winning. Now guarenteed those tools are reading our posts but too CHICKEN to say anything about it. F U C K Em!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:54 PM |

we all predicted the outcome if dallas sucks, which they do, but I wish one would climb aboard so we could set the ass wipe straight.

Cowboy Trolls = @ 1-3 they might have ended it all

Posted by: hessone | October 15, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

You're on a roll today monk...I guess someone got lucky last night!

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 1:56 PM

Monk lives in a monastery. "Getting lucky" there means that he had an extra piece of monk bread at supper.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 15, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Now guarenteed those tools are reading our posts but too CHICKEN to say anything about it. F U C K Em!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:54 PM

If they are anything like my dallas buddies...they won't even acknowledge that football is going on right now...won't even talk about it.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

When Alexander says:

"It's great," Alexander said. "It's been a long road for me being undrafted and bouncing around for a minute, but finding a home here, it shows that hard work pays off.

Does he mean "for a minute" to mean he bounced around for a long time, or a short time?

Posted by: MColeman51 | October 15, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

is there a reason these morons are not posting on the board anymore ?

Posted by: hessone | October 15, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Yep, it's called 1-3. Plus we are winning. Now guarenteed those tools are reading our posts but too CHICKEN to say anything about it. F U C K Em!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Must be the thought of being tag-teamed by monk and hessone. I'm sure that would be enough to keep most people away.

keep up the good work!!

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 15, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse


Oh, I forgot he's on the "ok to player hate list" brought to you by the "we're allowed to be player haters and pabriAn isn't" RI doosh-structure

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:25 PM |

you just wrote what everyone on the board thinks ass lips

Posted by: hessone | October 15, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

yes I did and you're the only one thinking about ass lips all the time. It's coming out week bro, just do it, it's ok

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Monk Bread... haha

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Must be the thought of being tag-teamed by monk and hessone. I'm sure that would be enough to keep most people away.

keep up the good work!!

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 15, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

good post about 2 dudes tag teaming some other dudes

don't cosign

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Neither McIntosh nor Fletcher are true inside linebackers. McIntosh's number of tackles look good right now, but this is a product of the system as much as it is a product of his ability. If McIntosh sits out this week because of his *ahem* concussion, expect Riley to put up some decent numbers, too. Sometimes players get mysterious ailments during the regular season and thsi allows the coaches to preview players that are pushing for playing time in practice. It's a way for coaches to evaluate talent without making it a media circus. McIntosh still struggles in coverage. Maybe Riley doesn't. Who knows?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 15, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Extend Jamaal brown? All he's shown is that he's ALMOST as goo as Heyer.

That's a good one. Extend brown.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

What do tweasers and self-satisfaction have in common? Go ahead, show 'em Monk811

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

First off, Brown was out all of last year. He needs a year to fully recover, kinda like your d*ck needed a week off because you spanked it so much. Brown will be back to form next year!!!

And tweezers? No, that's not how it went. I think I remember your mom using BOTH hands on me!!!! BURN!!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 15, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I see above that somebody says "That will be the first and only time this year that an opposing coach mentions Joey Galloway as a threat."

Well, maybe that will be the last time that an opposing coach mentions that Galloway is indeed a threat - but the fact remains that he is.

He has the longest reception on the team this year (62 yards) and can still fly. I suspect that people want to knock Galloway because he is older but like the guy above says "book it"- well "book this" Galloway will make more than 1 big catch before the season is done that will be game changers.

Posted by: rickywarner49 | October 15, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse


What do tweasers and self-satisfaction have in common? Go ahead, show 'em Monk811

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 15, 2010 1:59 PM |

what do k-y gel and pabrian's ass lips have in common. everything !

Posted by: hessone | October 15, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse


beep to rocky, except you pabrian2003. you can stay here and play with yourself

Posted by: hessone | October 15, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

And the wheels have come off the blog.

Skins 27
Colts 24

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 15, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Yes...sources confirmed pabrian sprained his penis from spanking it too much...likely out 1 to 3 weeks.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 15, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

The Colts are a class organization. Would
you say that your opponent's receiver's
lack talent? Won't matter, 'Skins win.

Posted by: gerling3 | October 15, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

The Colts are a class organization. Would
you say that your opponent's receiver's
lack talent? Won't matter, 'Skins win.

Posted by: gerling3 | October 15, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Get rid of granpa galloway. Give the youngsters more playing time

Posted by: jercha | October 15, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I see above that somebody says "That will be the first and only time this year that an opposing coach mentions Joey Galloway as a threat."

Well, maybe that will be the last time that an opposing coach mentions that Galloway is indeed a threat - but the fact remains that he is.

He has the longest reception on the team this year (62 yards) and can still fly. I suspect that people want to knock Galloway because he is older but like the guy above says "book it"- well "book this" Galloway will make more than 1 big catch before the season is done that will be game changers.

Posted by: rickywarner49 | October 15, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

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