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LaRon Landry frustrated by having to leave field on Texans' winning drive

The anger was evident on LaRon Landry's face.

The strong safety wanted to return after suffering a bruised wrist in overtime, but he had to come out under NFL rules after team medical personnel examined him on the field. With Landry briefly out on the sideline, backup safety Chris Horton struggled in his place as the Houston Texans completed their late rally for a 30-27 victory at FedEx Field.

"To have the lead like that, and just, you know, they eat it up, and finish off the loss, man, it's just tough," Landry said. "To say we was ahead the whole game, and we let it slip away, it's all what we created. It's nothing that they did. We didn't finish it off."

Following place kicker Graham Gano's missed 52-yard field goal in overtime, the Texans took possession of the ball on their 42-yard line. Horton replaced Landry on the drive and had a costly offside penalty and also was beaten by tight end Joel Dreessen for a 28-yard gain to the Redskins' 18-yard line.

Three plays after Dreessen's long reception, the game was over on place kicker Neil Rackers's 35-yard field goal.

"I mean, I really didn't want to come off the field, but once you're down you've got to come off," Landry said. "You've got to take a play off. It happens."

After finishing with a game-high 18 tackles in Week 1 against Dallas, Landry had 11 tackles against Houston. Landry blitzed often as part of defensive coordinator Jim Haslett's game plan to pressure Houston quarterback Matt Schaub through the middle of the line. Landry, who said X-rays of his wrist were negative, had three quarterback hits, one sack and one tackle for loss.

"They just wanted to make sure I was straight before I came back in," Landry said. "It was just real tough."

By Jason Reid  | September 20, 2010; 12:56 AM ET
Categories:  LaRon Landry  
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Seriously.

Crappy.

It's nothing that they did?

"They" posted about 500 yards passing on that a$$, Laron.

That's precisely what "they" did.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, there were plenty of nominations for The Choke Award. Gano. Doughty. Horton. Galloway. Davis. Johnson.

What can you do? The team looked like a very good team that still has a few holes. I'll take it.

The most worrisome aspects are (Big Surprise) our Linebackers and Safeties in pass coverage, after our Run Game... Which shouldn't even be called that.

It should just be referred to as our "Non-Passing Attack," because there's nothing "Run-like" about it.

Speaking of which, there should probably be a way to option OUT of The Santana Moss Reverse Play. Just saying, the play was dead before Moss got the ball. Why hand it to him anyway?

We've got work to do. We've still got missing pieces. If we keep this GM/Coaching staff together for a few years, I have confidence we'll be good.

Right now, we just have flashes.

Posted by: Thinker_ | September 20, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Horton isn't what we thought he was. Doughty isn't a free safety. Moore has injury problems. Haslett needs to create better coverage at the safety position whether he does that by moving a corner to safety or bringing someone in, he needs to improve play at that position. Hopefully, Moore will be back next week, but this doesn't let them off the hook. Moore will probably get injured again and there's always the chance, such as yesterday, when Landry is going to get dinged up. Someone has to step up and I think Horton showed he's not the who...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 20, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato's stamp is still nice and evident on this team. Chris Horton, what?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 20, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Weaknesses:

Offensive line depth (Been neglected for years)

Running backs (The 'skins have one, he's fading and one head ding away from retirement)

Defensive backfield (Pretty obvious)

Center

Fullback

3-4: Last year's bend but don't break defense ain 't so ugly now.

It will be a couple of years before the personnel will be in place to run a decent 3-4--if then.

Posted by: TheCork | September 20, 2010 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Who is this Andre Johnson fellow? Never heard of him before. It's not like he's the best receiver of the 21st century or anything. Probably don't need to double him or anything. Not like he was having a good game when he caught that jump ball against that little white boy. How were we supposed to know not to single cover him with our worst player on the field at that time?

Posted by: bosshog7169 | September 20, 2010 4:25 AM | Report abuse

ach, silly vain nfl..So what does it have to do with the "Robert Williams Apocalypse"?? Billy the Oil Drunk Helicopter sucks the blood out of the severed Muslim.."I'm so sorry, I'm so teddibly, teddibly sorry," he says..

..electronic abuse, what else is new..

Posted by: frak | September 20, 2010 4:31 AM | Report abuse

Aaah! The sky is falling! Aaaah!

Of course the team still has weaknesses. But the game was still ten times more entertaining than any game we played in the last few years. Whatever else is wrong, the Redskins now have a spine. We will force other teams to take us seriously. Anybody notice any fake field goal plays? No. What I saw was focus and discipline, a defense that attacked like crazy all day long, and some passing plays over 60 yards long. I'll take it. For now, I'll take it.

HTTR.

Posted by: SonofNero | September 20, 2010 4:35 AM | Report abuse

The redskins defense,need to spend a whole bunch of time doing SCRAMBLE DRILLS...it's like back to back weeks they are clueless on what to do when the original play breaks down...it's okay if the receiver makes a good play, but they would be so far out of place when the receiver would catch the ball...it was baffling...

Outside of that, I can't be too mad...was a good game..but it is what it is....

Posted by: impervious99 | September 20, 2010 4:38 AM | Report abuse

The Cowpies and Ginas losses make this loss a little less bitter. With a little luck we will get Kareem Moore back next week and T. Williams knee injury won't be serious.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 20, 2010 5:48 AM | Report abuse

Wow...I just knew that we'd get a group up here completely overreacting to the loss. And sure enough...here's Cork with some assinine list of needs, Poopy crying how Vinny's influence is still here, and Thinker handing out choke awards to a rookie kicker, a career backup safety pressed into action against the best passing attack in football, and a 38 year-old receiver who shouldn't even be on the roster, yet hauled in a 60-something yard catch to set up a score. UFB...

Look, this loss hurts...no question. You should never blow a 17 point lead at home. But who in a million years thought this offense would be capable of that kind of production this early? If anything, I feel good knowing that we finally have an offense that hang with anybody.

If you haven't read Boswell's column, do it now. You'll feel better about this team when you do. I sure did when I read this:

"If the Redskins were, this year, a team with a realistic chance to go deep in the playoffs, then this might be a haunting defeat. In fact, they are a much-improved team but far from a wonderful one. If they ever become excellent, they now have a leader worthy of them. In time, this game will not be remembered for its final score but for the knowledge it passed to everyone.

Donovan McNabb is still as good as he has ever been. And he's a Redskin, now and probably for a long time."

Exactly right.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 5:58 AM | Report abuse

The Cowpies and Ginas losses make this loss a little less bitter. With a little luck we will get Kareem Moore back next week and T. Williams knee injury won't be serious.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 20, 2010 5:48 AM


Co-sign...we're the only NFC East team with a division win so technically, we're in first place. It would have been nice to have that one game lead over everyone else and build on it with a win over the Rams next week, but this is still a work in progress. Anything substantial (winning the division, making the playoffs) is gravy at this point...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 6:05 AM | Report abuse

Who is this Andre Johnson fellow? Never heard of him before. It's not like he's the best receiver of the 21st century or anything. Probably don't need to double him or anything. Not like he was having a good game when he caught that jump ball against that little white boy. How were we supposed to know not to single cover him with our worst player on the field at that time?

Posted by: bosshog7169

The defensive plan was to sell out to stop the run. They were hoping to get pressure on the QB and stop the run and hope the secondary held up. It did for almost 3 quarters. With a weak front 3 this is a challenge Haslett is going to face every week. Houston is a very good offensive team. The defense did well holding them in check for almost 3 quarters.

Posted by: srobert1117 | September 20, 2010 6:17 AM | Report abuse

Wow, what an interesting game and look for the skins.
Thought the offense would not have passed so easily against the Texans. Cooley and Moss again show why they are one of the best in the league. If we could only get another receiver to complement Moss.
Where was the running game, never would have thought so few yards?
O-line was good with the first stringers, bad with backups. Ice and elevation for TW.
The defense was dominating and then vulnerable.
Special teams…good and bad.
Hmmmm…a Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hide game.
Saw a lot of good and bad things in the game but much better then what we’ve been accustomed to watching.
Still in first place...Two weeks in a row...All Hail to that.

Posted by: joe_king | September 20, 2010 6:18 AM | Report abuse

This team is already 100% better then last year, there were to many personnel issues to fix in one off season. I'm happy with where the team is will they get better yes, will they be a playoff team maybe not but they are going in the right direction.

For all the whiny b_tches on here last night give me a break it takes time to fix 10 years of bad management.

The cowgirls suck and will be destroyed next week, and ESPN will have everyone on giving all the excuses.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 20, 2010 6:23 AM | Report abuse

The cowgirls suck and will be destroyed next week, and ESPN will have everyone on giving all the excuses.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 20, 2010 6:23 AM

Agree, but there will be only one excuse, Wade Phillips, and he will be replaced by Jason Garrett. Then, when he sucks, we'll have more probing analyses which will blame everyone but DeMarcus Ware and Dez Bryant. At the end of the season there will be a new coach and major overhaul of personnel.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 20, 2010 6:34 AM | Report abuse

This team is already 100% better then last year, there were to many personnel issues to fix in one off season. I'm happy with where the team is will they get better yes, will they be a playoff team maybe not but they are going in the right direction.

For all the whiny b_tches on here last night give me a break it takes time to fix 10 years of bad management.

The cowgirls suck and will be destroyed next week, and ESPN will have everyone on giving all the excuses.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 20, 2010 6:23 AM


Co-sign. We need patience...out title will come in 2012. We're just building toward that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse

After week 2, who would have thought?
Portis would have 31 carries for only 96 yards. Wow, average 15 carries for 48 yards. Still could break the yardage record.
Moss has 16 receptions…Good for him.
Cooley has 9 receptions for 144 yards. All over the field.
Sellers has 5 receptions. Could use more of this.
Gano is the leading scorer on the team.
0 punt returns for 0 yards.
Defense has 6 sacks.
AH has 1 tackle and 1 assist. That's why we pay him the big bucks.
Best of all Rogers has the only INT. Hah!

Posted by: joe_king | September 20, 2010 7:03 AM | Report abuse

The cowgirls suck and will be destroyed next week, and ESPN will have everyone on giving all the excuses.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 20, 2010 6:23 AM

Agree, but there will be only one excuse, Wade Phillips, and he will be replaced by Jason Garrett. Then, when he sucks, we'll have more probing analyses which will blame everyone but DeMarcus Ware and Dez Bryant. At the end of the season there will be a new coach and major overhaul of personnel.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 20, 2010 6:34 AM
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Fun to watch, isn't it?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 20, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Joe, the Skins haven't surprised me much...what is a surprise is that the Phins and Bucs are 2-0 and Dall-ass and Minny are 0-2. This is why we play the games...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 7:20 AM | Report abuse

The teams holes are similar to the ones they had last year.

But we are still heading in the right direction.

We went from no O-line to just needing more depth. Went from an average QB to a Franchise QB.

We still need a legit No 1 WR, a young RB to split carries with Portis, a mauler NT, a legit FS, some decent backup linemen, and a Run Stopping 3-4 ILB.

I count 6 or 7 holes. WR I think the team fills with a free agent or trade in a year, the rest could easily be done with a few quality draft picks.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 20, 2010 7:22 AM | Report abuse

"If the Redskins were, this year, a team with a realistic chance to go deep in the playoffs, then this might be a haunting defeat. In fact, they are a much-improved team but far from a wonderful one. If they ever become excellent, they now have a leader worthy of them. In time, this game will not be remembered for its final score but for the knowledge it passed to everyone.

Donovan McNabb is still as good as he has ever been. And he's a Redskin, now and probably for a long time."

Exactly right.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 5:58 AM
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I think this is totally sensible, but how does Joey Galloway's presence gel with the "build for tomorrow" approach? Armstrong had one catch yesterday and Devin Thomas isn't even playing on offense. I'm not hating on Galloway; I just don't see him fitting into the long term plan so why not be grooming one of the youngsters instead? Same is true with LJ. Man, he is done. Let him go and activate Torain. I am not suggesting throwing out everything, but there are some guys who aren't the guys we thought they were. We might as well get younger and get those youngsters some experience...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 20, 2010 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Right Alex...this team is right where I thought they'd be at this point and actually look somewhat better. The only thing that concerns me even a little bit is their inability to run the football. Portis getting one yard per carry is unfathomable. If we can't get on track running the ball against the Rams, this could be a much longer season than we anticpated...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse


Even with the likes of MAustin and DWare, the Cowboy's look like the weak link in the NFC east.

he-he-he


Posted by: hessone | September 20, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse


I count 6 or 7 holes. WR I think the team fills with a free agent or trade in a year, the rest could easily be done with a few quality draft picks.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 20, 2010 7:22 AM |

Gotta have draft picks to make this happen. I still don't see us "getting young" anytime soon.

Posted by: hessone | September 20, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

I think this is totally sensible, but how does Joey Galloway's presence gel with the "build for tomorrow" approach? Armstrong had one catch yesterday and Devin Thomas isn't even playing on offense. I'm not hating on Galloway; I just don't see him fitting into the long term plan so why not be grooming one of the youngsters instead? Same is true with LJ. Man, he is done. Let him go and activate Torain. I am not suggesting throwing out everything, but there are some guys who aren't the guys we thought they were. We might as well get younger and get those youngsters some experience...


Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 20, 2010 7:25 AM


I get what you're saying, but this team is trying to win now. You and I know that won't happen in 2010 per se, but the team can't operate like that or they're already done. Having those old guys in the game gives us a chance now.

Plus you have to consider this: Zorn and Vinny ain't here. Shanahan plays guys based on whether they earn it, not the numbers on their birth certificate. DT will play because he earned it, not because he's younger than Galloway. When Torain stops running upright, he'll get his shot...not because he's younger and faster than LJ. I don't fault the coaches for playing older guys, I fault they younger guys for not beating them out.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

"The Maroon and black" will prevail.

"Stay medium"

"If I were still the head coach, we would have fun that same fake FG again in overtime.
I bet it would have worked too"
JZ

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 20, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

When your offense produces 421 yards, does not turn the ball over once and gives you a 17-point lead with little over a quarter remaining and you blow it, hmm, tells you what? That your defense is awful. Dead last in the NFL. We couldn't even stop them without Andre Johnson. The jumpball to tie it up was plain ridiculous. What is Buchanon thinking on this play? Why did he abandon coverage at the 3,4 yard-line? What purpose was he serving there? Was he searching for an earring? Why not help Doughty in the End Zone? Why leave a guy that can't get his ass 3 inches off the ground alone on AJ. This team is neither talented nor smart enough to be successful. Fred Davis (worst blocking tight end in the history of football. Why he is on the blocking unit on FG tries is beyond me), Chris Horton, Reed Doughty, Buchanon, the long list of players who lack any intelligence let alone talent to play at this level will always hurt the team. How can anybody think this team has a shot at the playoffs? We couldn't stop the Cowgirls either. They stopped themselves by penalties and dumb mistakes. They outgained us 2-1 yardagewise and would have blown us out by 20 if not for the miscues. Only a week ago Lorenzo Alexander said something like the defense will win games until the offense gets in sync. What a laughable comment. Talk about a blur of perception. Keep wondering why this moron feels the need to express himself on a regular basis. Only a matter of time until Donovan figures out that he wasted his final shot at a title here in DC. Man, if this guy ever would have had a legit receiving corps. Unfathomable. Now he's stuck with proven losers and with Trent going down he'll be running for his life the rest of the season. Hey, but here's one thing that cheered me up: The great Carlos Rogers figured out a way to intercept a pass: first, slow the ball down with your chest, arms, hands, whatever, somehow, then, second,juggle it a little until you can clearly see the ball and then when it goes up and it reaches the highest point, almost lying there in mid-air...boom...EMBRACE IT and take off!!!!!!! YES, go Skins!!! We are only 1 star running back, 1 3rd down back, 1 good FB, 2 receivers, 2 guards, one backup left tackle, 1 free safety, 1 real NT, 2 solid corners, 1 true OLB, a punter, a punt returner, 1 defensive coordinator away from the Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who said it takes a lifetime to clean up the dump Vinny left behind?

Posted by: vladoiu | September 20, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Even with the likes of MAustin and DWare, the Cowboy's look like the weak link in the NFC east.

Posted by: hessone | September 20, 2010 7:35 AM


Just for sh*ts and gigs I just looked at their schedule...they have Houston next week, a desperately needed bye in Week 4 and then the Titans at home, at Minnesota, and home against the Ginas. There is a very real possibility they go 0-3 into the bye, maybe even 0-6. And they haven't even touched the part of their schedule that includes the Colts, Packers, and Saints. I had them going 8-8, but these f*ckers might screw around and go 6-10...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse


Same is true with LJ. Man, he is done. Let him go and activate Torain.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 20, 2010 7:25 AM |

Well said RSH. I think our O-Line is still learning Shanahan's zone blocking scheme and that's our problem with running the ball. Getting younger means Torain instead of LJ.

Posted by: hessone | September 20, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

If anyone hears a gunshot, it's probably vladoiu...apparently, someone forgot to take their cymbalta...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Donovan McNabb is still as good as he has ever been. And he's a Redskin, now and probably for a long time."

Exactly right.


Posted by: brownwood26

I agree with your perspective brownwood. This loss stings, but pending a Trent Williams injury report, I'm rather encourage by the effort and McNabb's comfort with the offense.
Bottom line is, you don't let a chip shot field goal get blocked at home. We make that, we win the game.

Landry should get a purple heart medal for this game.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 20, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse


When Torain stops running upright, he'll get his shot...not because he's younger and faster than LJ.

brown, I think it doesn't matter right now who runs the ball, until the o-line gets the zone run blocking scheme down it'll be more of the same.


Posted by: hessone | September 20, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Hess...I think the rushing woes have more to do with the line than they do the backs. Hopefully, that all works itself out VERY soon...

Predator, I agree...that block was bad. I just don't get the clown who was up here going nuts on Gano for "choking" when he's essentially a rookie attempting his first high pressure kick (which was arguably outside of his range). I'm more blown that the refs screwed the pooch on that replayed "catch" that was CLEARLY hitting the ground. Only a ref on the take would make that call...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

30-27

We tried to win pretty and lost ugly.

But in any event, we have incrediblity good offense and a defense with issues.

If we play any other team in our division like we did the Texans yesterday, we win.

We can know go into games with Green Bay, Indy, Minn, knowing we can put points up on the board.

HTTR: That was a great game to witness.

Even if it was an ugly loss.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 20, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

"Where was the running game, never would have thought so few yards?"

Not to whine, but the offense lost its bearings in the drive where McNabb tried hitting Galloway deep.

I believe we threw three quick passes.

If we had mounted some kind of running attack at that point, we could've ground down the clock, and taken time away from the Texans.

And even though the ground game hasn't been there, we can not abandon it.

Promote Williams, make Johnson a second teamer, and give Torain a serious look.

Any kind of running attack in the second half would've been of a benefit.


Posted by: MistaMoe | September 20, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

disappointing loss, didn't get to see any of the game save for 10 minutes in overtime....playcalling seemed suspect in the 4th quarter from what I could read on the computer...running game isn't 'there' yet...Reed, and Horton are special teamers, at heart, and when forced into coverage, struggle mightily...congrats to Rogers, who had his first interception since December of the 2008 season...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Not drinking the "vastly improved" Kool-Aide. This is still an old team with lots of holes where you don't want them. McNabb makes them better on offense, sure, but what part of the future is he? They are old and slow at the RB position, the secondary and LB are average at best, the WR are a joke and really no future playmakers there either. Whatever success the Skins have this year is only an illusion - they have several years of good drafts and FA pickups before I declare them fixed.

Posted by: bendersx6 | September 20, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Amen, Moe...the loss stings but I'm more encouraged by that game than anything else...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse


Senility included, when was the last time a Redskin's offense drove the ball 92 yards for a TD. Improvement at QB here.

What's strange is we had 18 net rushing yards, yet 2 of our 3 TD's were rushing TD's.

Posted by: hessone | September 20, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Boswell's column reminds me that almost all the key players are now in the twilight of their careers -- McNabb, Portis, Fletcher, Moss.

So a column about how great McNabb is only serves to remind how seriously the Redskins need to rebuild.

On the other hand I suppose they could keep restocking with the vets and go 8-8 for the next five years and eventually win some wild ones where Donovan throws for 400 yards. Sort of like Sonny in the 60's?

If he resigns, that is.

Posted by: Pepper5 | September 20, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

they have several years of good drafts and FA pickups before I declare them fixed.

Posted by: bendersx6

Nobody said that they were fixed after one good offseason and 10-11 years of inept management. It was more impressive that despite all of the skins shortcomings, holes, lack of talent at key positions, etc, etc...we scored EASILY and SHOULD have won the game.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 20, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

It's a different sort of defense we're playing -- one that's more vulnerable to the big play. Risk-taking. Better get used to it. It's closer to what New Orleans plays, or the Jets. There are going to be some mismatches, some embarrassments. And some very big wins.

I thought it was interesting that McNabb was changing up to passes at the line of scrimmage, based on Houston's alignment. Makes sense. As a tactic, it was successful. Could have won that game -- I don't know if I'd say, 'should have', because Houston played really well in that comeback... but it's a lot more fun to watch than what we saw last season.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 20, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

What happened Greg...sports bars up there blocking the Skins game? You missed a pretty good one up until the 4th quarter...as for the playcalling, it was pass heavy because they literally got NOTHING from the ground game. If we could run it even a little bit, we win that game going away...

bender, you could cut and paste that post from an old Dolphins and/or Falcons board circa 2008. I think we know how both of those teams turned out...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Could have won that game -- I don't know if I'd say, 'should have', because Houston played really well in that comeback... but it's a lot more fun to watch than what we saw last season.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 20, 2010 8:22 AM

I'll say should of. They were a LAZY block from 86 away from a win or Gano hitting his mulligan.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 20, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Actually I'm pretty optimistic about the loss for a few reasons:

-We're still in first place

-We only lost to the AFC, nonconference loss

-The offense took off and moved the ball at will through the air

-Anthony Armstrong made a couple tough catches and Galloway looked good going deep, old man can still run

-Landry played 2 good games in a row, shows he's a beast and will be all year long

-Gano drilled that 52 yarder, just sucks the timeout was called, he'll learn to drill the second one in the clutch when he's iced

-We stood toe to toe with the best offense in the game right now

-Our rushing defense looked like a different team out there, they really made some adjustments from the Cowpie game

-And finally, Haynesworth didn't play, and we still applied pressure and stopped the run, so we showed we could play without him, trade him for that 4th round pick and move on.

WE WILL LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY!!!
HTTR

Posted by: monk811 | September 20, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

hey brown, was at the Nascar race in NH, so wasn't able to watch...when I got home skins were up by 17.....haslett can't have slept well last night....

other than TWill any other injuries??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

You can be glass half empty, or half full...

I choose to be half full.

We got the ball into the end zone.

McNabb showed he still has a rocket of an arm.

Schaub's backside hit the ground quite a fews times yesterday.

We're still in 1st place.

Smurfs and Cowboys lost.

We're still a work in progress gentlemen. The team didn't get in this deplorable condition overnight, and it's going to take a few seasons until we're a playoff caliber team. We've taken some steps in the right direction, but we have MANY more to go.

We played a decent team, and lost in a wild, down to the wire game. NO SHAME IN THAT!

HTTR!!!

Posted by: Southernbelle_aurora | September 20, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

I'm actually pretty impressed with what we were able to do on Sunday.

I'm also kinda surprised about analysis to this point. It's all been about performance and blown assignments, from what I've seen.

Very little has been said about playchoice and clock management. We shouldn't have been in this situation at the end of the game. If the players aren't executing, you don't leave the game in their hands - you manage it.

We didn't do that. We lost.

I chalk it up to a learning experience & hope they can adjust - they certainly did w/ O output, didn't they?

Hail!

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 20, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

"Whatever success the Skins have this year is only an illusion - they have several years of good drafts and FA pickups before I declare them fixed.Posted by: bendersx6"

LOL be sure to forward that to Bruce Allen -- I'm sure it's never occurred to him.

I go back to Belichick's comment from last season, that Washington's problems stemmed from a number of poor decisions that would require some time -- and some good decisions -- to repair. That's why it's disappointing to see fans and media focusing in on this player or that, bemoaning his age or imperfections. You have to think that if Shanahan had better alternatives -- not just younger, but better -- he'd play them. When you walk into a mess like Washington, you rebuild not with a bunch of kids but with a mix of vets and younger players, hoping to maximize their strengths and minimize their many weaknesses. Most coaches say that the backbone of your club is always the third and fourth year players, and we just don't have enough developed ones. That's because the Skins were busy pretending they were a star or two away from a Super Bowl and wasting money on the likes of Albert Haynesworth. We suspect maybe the Danster has finally figured that out, but that's a long way from having fixed it.

Look at Houston, which in its first two contests sure looked to me like a contender. A great offense, an adequate defense, along the lines of last season's Saints rather than the Pats or Pittsburgh. How long have they been working at it?

It's true that most of the 'anchor' players from this team won't be here for the next cycle when the Skins are a really good team, the way they once were. That's expected. Point is, we have to muddle along as best we can in the short-term, while the long-term fix continues.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 20, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

It's a different sort of defense we're playing -- one that's more vulnerable to the big play. Risk-taking. Better get used to it. It's closer to what New Orleans plays, or the Jets. There are going to be some mismatches, some embarrassments. And some very big wins.


Posted by: Samson151 | September 20, 2010 8:22 AM


Exactly right...our days ranking in the top 10 defensively are probably over. But the plus side is we'll get takeaways and give our offense more chances to score and make up the difference.

I think we're missing #41 much more than we thought we would...I count no less than 3 plays in the first two games that he would have picked off if he were playing in lieu of Doughty...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

brownwood, good call man. I was pretty pissed off after the game until I thought to myself that this isn't a title contending team anyway, and there are going to be growing pains along the way as we rebuild.

By the way, JC already got benched in Oakland...haha

Posted by: mattylight | September 20, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

doughty stinks....he can't be playing as much as he is in coverage...such a liability...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

The Skins may have played a good game. They scored more than 13 points. The seem improved in most areas but...The result was the same...4th quarter collapse. It worries me that with all the changes made, the culture remains the same with the same result.

Posted by: WRBD | September 20, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Defense was bad yesterday, no question. One bright spot, though, is we have created a turnover in both games this year. Didn't do that much in 2009.

So many chances to win the game, like Galloway's near TD catch, the blocked 29-yd FG, Heyer's holding penalty that negated Moss's catch which would have sealed the game, Horton jumping offsides on 3rd down in OT, etc. If one of those plays goes right, we win. None did...

Posted by: mattylight | September 20, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I'm more blown that the refs screwed the pooch on that replayed "catch" that was CLEARLY hitting the ground. Only a ref on the take would make that call...

Posted by: brownwood26

Two things:


1) That was clearly a catch. The dude had his right hand under the ball the whole time. I know with "skins vision" you'd think other wise, but that was clearly a catch. Believe me if it wasn't I'd agree with you. But as many times as they showed the replay zoomed in on the catch, I don't see how you could think otherwise.


2) Blaming the refs or alleging they're on the take? C'mon man, you know better than that! That's loser talk right there.


'Skins gave this one away plain and simple. I immediately thought back to the New Orleans game last year when this one went final. No way you give up 500 total yards and truly expect to beat anybody. Even with a 17 point lead -- at home.

Run defense: Suspect
Pass defense: Suspect

Defense overall: SUSPECT


Only bright spot yesterday was McNabb and the pass protection. Although the latter begin to waver in the 4th quarter.


Lastly, I can't figure out for the life of me why they won't change that damn rule. Seriously, how bush league is calling a timeout right before the ball is snapped? It's amateurish and should have been addressed and abolished during the offseason.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

other than TWill any other injuries??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 8:32 AM


Doughty got rocked a couple times but kept coming back...plus Landry was launching himself like a heat-seeking missile all game long and got shaken up a couple times (wrist, I think). It'll bear watching this week but it doesn't appear to be serious.

Samson, well said. As long as McNabb can keep playing at a high level the next 3-5 years if we play our cards right in the 2011 and 2012 offseasons...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

doughty stinks....he can't be playing as much as he is in coverage...such a liability...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Just goes to show you can change the GM and HC over and over and over again, but the real change won't come until we can get some better players in here...it's great that we can be competitive (dominating for stretches even) against a good Texans team that stomped the Colts, but we have HUGE needs at RB, WR, FS, DL, CB, etc...

Posted by: mattylight | September 20, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

brown, thanks for the update, glad Doughty is ok, but wish he didn't come back...4th and 10 and he gives up that play on a jump ball......terrible...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Lastly, I can't figure out for the life of me why they won't change that damn rule. Seriously, how bush league is calling a timeout right before the ball is snapped? It's amateurish and should have been addressed and abolished during the offseason.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

One of these years a Super Bowl will come down to that, and then and only then will it get changed. I think it could be a pretty simple rule change: you can't call a defensive timeout with less than 5 seconds left on the play clock on a FG attempt. Bad idea?

Posted by: mattylight | September 20, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

That was clearly a catch. The dude had his right hand under the ball the whole time. I know with "skins vision" you'd think other wise, but that was clearly a catch. Believe me if it wasn't I'd agree with you. But as many times as they showed the replay zoomed in on the catch, I don't see how you could think otherwise.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2010 8:43 AM


I thought you knew me by now, Red...when it comes to the Skins I don't view life thru burgundy and gold glasses, I keep it real. So "Skins vision" has nothing to do with it. If that was Lions/Bills I'm still saying that's no catch. I watched the replay as many times as you did and that ball came out. At a minimum, the ball rolled...which still means no catch. How a ref watches that in slo mo and still doesn't overturn it is mindboggling.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Should the team release Larry Johnson? and may be bring back L. Betts?

Posted by: Skins2 | September 20, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Co-sign. We need patience...out title will come in 2012. We're just building toward that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse


People can talk about team weaknesses top to bottom all they want.

Here is THE weakness that needs to be addressed - running back.

Period.

I said it leading up to the game - if we can;t run the ball it's going to be a very very long afternoon...and it was figuratively and literally.

Because when you are up 17 points on a team in the 3rd quarter, what you need to do is start moving chains with the run game.

450 yards from DMac is nice, but I'd have sooner taked 250 yards and 150 on the ground coming from some methodical late-game running drives.

Time to cut Larry Johnson and promote Ryan Torain to the team to see what he has in live game action.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

The last time I remember seeing the Redskins that bad running the ball was @ Baltimore two years ago.


They couldn't maintain the lead because they couldn't run the ball.

"Well, what happened was, that second half, we got our ass kicked. In the 4th quarter, we just got our ass totally kicked. We couldn’t do diddly poo offensively or defensively, we couldn’t make a first down, we couldn't prevent a first down, we couldn’t run the ball, we didn’t try to run the ball, we couldn’t prevent a pass - we sucked. The second half, we sucked. We couldn't stop the pass. Every time they got the ball, they went down and got points. We got our ass totally kicked in the 4th quarter - that's what it boiled down to. It was a horsesh*t performance in the 4th quarter. Horsesh*t. I’m totally embarrassed and totally ashamed. Secondary did a horrible job. The special teams did a horrible job. We got our ass kicked in that 4th quarter. It sucked. It stunk."

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Btown, agreed, I love Reed as a special teamer and depth but not as FS. We miss Kareem more than we think. Not saying he will be All-Pro but he'll at least make teams think about going deep b/c of his ball-hawking abilities. McNabb looked great yesterday that 70 yard bomb to 84 that just missed was impressive and showed he's still got it. If we continue to show progress and Fred Davis can learn how to at least put a hand on someone than I like our chances to get to the playoffs. It's just nice to see a organized unit that looks like an NFL team out there not a pop warner outfit. Go Skins!

Posted by: forever8-8 | September 20, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

glad Doughty is ok, but wish he didn't come back...4th and 10 and he gives up that play on a jump ball......terrible...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 8:47 AM


I would have been amazed if he actually made that play...Doughty one on one with AJ is like my 4 year-old trying to check Dwight Howard in the post. There's only one way that ends and it's badly. What pissed me off was that Buchanon inexplicably broke off his coverage and allowed that sh*t to happen. I'd love to know just what the f*ck he was thinking on that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

That game really made me miss Sean Taylor.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 20, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I would pretty much feel the same about this game if we had won it.

Mistakes are going to happen in this D. But you HAVE to run better clock management down the stretch.

They started to, CPo runs down the stretch a bit.. downhill, use the clock. But then they started taking chances at big gains again - and failing now, 'cause Houston's D adjusted at the half. The clock stops. Texans get more chances & now our D is in Fail mode... so....

So when we loose on a iced kick - matters not. The war was lost even if the battle won, yknow?

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 20, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

other than the 62yd catch, what did David do...people keep mentioning him here and there...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Should the team release Larry Johnson? and may be bring back L. Betts?

Posted by: Skins2 | September 20, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse


It's simple than that. Release Larry johnson and promote Ryan Torain.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Chris Wilson needs to be in there, Andre Carter is not suited to the 3-4.

The defense is not good, got the sense we were aided by Garrett's terrible playcalling last week and this week the floodgates opened.

After years of having very stout Ds and putrid offenses...are we about to see the reverse? Please no...

Posted by: divi3 | September 20, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

pfunk, you're in the right church, just the wrong pew...the running game IS a problem right now but it's not the backs. If they have Chris f-ing Johnson back there, there aren't any holes to run through. All I keep seeing is a jumbled mass of bodies at the line of scrimmage and Portis bouncing off it for a gain of a yard. If they can get those lineman in order, the rushing yardage will come.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

That game really made me miss Sean Taylor.

Posted by: Original_etrod

Cosign that, no way that 4th down lob is complete with Taylor covering Johnson.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 20, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

People it is the 2nd game of entirely new 3-4 defense and Shanahan Coast O, it's not going to be perfect and yes along the way we might blow some games. Please when you start thinking about nitpicking normal problems of team in transition just remember what things looked like at the end of last season. This team would blow that team out by 35. Patience young grasshoppers, the defense will be good and this team will be good. However it takes more than 2 games. RELAX!

Posted by: forever8-8 | September 20, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Greg, NFLN is replaying the game at 9 on Tuesday.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Sorry you glass-half-fullers but this loss ends all the pretense.

Nothing but "blood, toil, tears and sweat" ahead.

Posted by: Pepper5 | September 20, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

pfunk, you're in the right church, just the wrong pew...the running game IS a problem right now but it's not the backs. If they have Chris f-ing Johnson back there, there aren't any holes to run through. All I keep seeing is a jumbled mass of bodies at the line of scrimmage and Portis bouncing off it for a gain of a yard. If they can get those lineman in order, the rushing yardage will come.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse


Portis is done. His real value comes from his great blocking, otherwise I'd just as soon cut him and promote Torain.

Brown, can you recall the last time you saw Clinton Portis break a tackle?

The only time I can recall CP NOT going down on first contact was when he had that long end-of-game run against the Cowpukes...and after finally bouncing off a couple of would-be tacklers he just fell to the ground in front of the safety instead of keeping his feet.

No doubt we still have kinks to work out in the zone-block. I'm wondering if that's why we are seeing more of Lichtensteiger. But it doesn't change the fact that our RBs are FINISHED.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Buchanan abadonning his receiver instead of hitting him so hard to jar the ball loose. Davis whiffing on the blocked FG. Heyer's penalty nullifying Moss' 1st down in the 4th. All these mistake could have been avoided and gone a long way to helping us win. The blocked FG alone could have won us the game. COncerns with the defense? A little. Houston is an offensive power. Running game? Donovan took what the texans gave him and he torched them. We have a nice blueprint. No turnovers and good discipline. But for the life of me. Why did Hasslett not adjust to stop al those damn bootlegs? They had a field day with those.... We'll be fine.

Hail

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | September 20, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Buchanan abadonning his receiver instead of hitting him so hard to jar the ball loose. Davis whiffing on the blocked FG. Heyer's penalty nullifying Moss' 1st down in the 4th. All these mistake could have been avoided and gone a long way to helping us win. The blocked FG alone could have won us the game. COncerns with the defense? A little. Houston is an offensive power. Running game? Donovan took what the texans gave him and he torched them. We have a nice blueprint. No turnovers and good discipline. But for the life of me. Why did Hasslett not adjust to stop al those damn bootlegs? They had a field day with those.... We'll be fine.

Hail

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | September 20, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Sorry you glass-half-fullers but this loss ends all the pretense.

Nothing but "blood, toil, tears and sweat" ahead.

Posted by: Pepper5

So Pepper are you saying we'll be 1-15 by the end of the year?
Should we go ahead and fire Shanahan now?

What the hell man!

Posted by: Predator48 | September 20, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

brown, thanks, will be watching...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

The defense is not good, got the sense we were aided by Garrett's terrible playcalling last week and this week the floodgates opened.

After years of having very stout Ds and putrid offenses...are we about to see the reverse? Please no...

Posted by: divi3 | September 20, 2010 9:04 AM

Floodgates opened? Really? Giving up 30 points (which was less than the AFC champion Colts gave up, by the way) to one of the top offenses in the league is opening the floodgates? Listening to you, you'd think we gave up 50 points...

Give the Texans credit...they took advantage of our injury-depleted secondary and out Shanahan-ed Shanahan. We're a work in progress dude...just take heart that Zorn wasn't here, otherwise it would have been a blowout...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

other than the 62yd catch, what did David do...people keep mentioning him here and there...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Well, he made a nice play to set us up for the touchdown, but he forgot one simple thing while blocking for a field goal: YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST TRY AND BLOCK THE PLAYER ON THE END THAT WANTS TO BLOCK THE KICK YOU STUPID IDIOT!!!!!!!!! Seriously, if I have to blame 1 and only one person for this loss, it's Fred Davis. He could have chipped that guy a little more. If we make that field goal we would have been up by 10 with about 3 or 4 minutes to go. I don't blame Doughty, how many DBs can go up and take the ball away from Andre Johnson, not many. I don't even blame Graham Gano, he drilled that first 52 yd FG, how many kickers can drill it a second time perfectly? He'll get better and learn, but Fred Davis? Obviously he's not learning because this is 2 weeks in a row he cost us on a block.

Posted by: monk811 | September 20, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Blessing in disguise: the defense got exposed in every aspect. They'll review the tape, correct the problems and bounce back nicely against the Rams. We'll be fine; everyone can step back from the ledge.

Posted by: oh_boy1 | September 20, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Reed Doughty and Casey Rabach.

Poster boys for the folly of banking on players who are "tough" and "smart" and "hard-working", but can't hack it physically/athletically at the pro-level.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

monk, thanks, and go medicate yourself...thats delusional if nothing else...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

If I were the Houston coaches, I'd have to be wondering about having given up 20 first downs and 419 yards through the air to Indy, followed by 426 yards on 73% completions in Washington. The Skins averaged 15.2 yards per reception. Occurs to me you cannot win consistently in the NFL giving up yardage like that.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 20, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

And to all the folks who wanted to blow the kids college fund on getting Vincent Jackson.

I said it a million times - When DMac is in rhythm he spreads the ball around to lots of receivers.

How about we shutdown the "get VJax at any cost" talk and let Minny go chase that suspension-magnet, eh?

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

This may come as a huge shocker, but I'm a Portis fan.

This may also come as a huge shocker, but I think he's done.

Too early to tell if it's the offensive line crappy run blocking, or the quality of the front seven of the Texans and Cowboys, but from where I sit Portis looks finished.


And that sucks.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

p1funk I don't think CP is done. His vision is still there. He's finding what little holes there are and he's getting to them, unlike LJ. CP isn't a home run hitter anymore, but can be a back that can provide enough of a threat to keep defense's honest.

mustang_johnny1 as far as the run defense, I too think it'll come around. I remember this time last year the Packer's struggling the first part of the year. I'm not a big fan of the Skins totally committing to this 3-4 defense and all it's variations. The Skin's don't have the pass rusher's to do it at the LB level (would like to see more of C Wilson on the field)

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Brown, can you recall the last time you saw Clinton Portis break a tackle?

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 9:13 AM


Nope. But that's because that ain't his game. He's a speed guy that was miscast as a power back here for years. I don't care if he falls forward, as long as he's falling forward after getting at least 4 or 5 yards a clip.

If you recall, nobody wanted to replace Portis at RB more than I did. But right now he's the best we've got and I think he's still got enough in the tank to be effective this year if his blocking is up to snuff. Thus far, it hasn't been. Unless he morphs into Jahvid Best, Torain ain't changing that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

monk, thanks, and go medicate yourself...thats delusional if nothing else...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Explain to me how that's delusional??? Medicate? Takes one to know one!

Posted by: monk811 | September 20, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Sorry you glass-half-fullers but this loss ends all the pretense.

Nothing but "blood, toil, tears and sweat" ahead.

Posted by: Pepper5

So Pepper are you saying we'll be 1-15 by the end of the year?
Should we go ahead and fire Shanahan now?

What the hell man!

Posted by: Predator48 | September 20, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Caught me trolling!

what I'm saying this is a bigger rebuilding project than some folks may want to acknowledge. And I suspect it begins with squarely facing that reality out in Ashburn.

Starting with the right personnel to run a 3-4 defense, and the right personnel to run the football Shanny's way. Hopefully younger personnel too.

Then we can talk about building a new legacy to go with the yellow pants blah blah blah.

Posted by: Pepper5 | September 20, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I'm not a big fan of the Skins totally committing to this 3-4 defense and all it's variations. The Skin's don't have the pass rusher's to do it at the LB level (would like to see more of C Wilson on the field)

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2010 9:23 AM


Brian Orakpo says hi...so does London Fletcher...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

monk, they gave up nearly 500 yards passing

heyer had a holding penalty that wiped out a first down in the 4th quarter

on 4th and 10, they gave up a td pass

to say this is ONLY on FD is akin to bringing up his 'over sleeping' and 'giggling'....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

What pissed me off was that Buchanon inexplicably broke off his coverage and allowed that sh*t to happen. I'd love to know just what the f*ck he was thinking on that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:01 AM

They were playing zone Brown. Buchanon released him to Reed. Which means he was likely thinking about his assignment.

Posted by: mack1 | September 20, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

What's strange is we had 18 net rushing yards, yet 2 of our 3 TD's were rushing TD's.

Posted by: hessone | September 20, 2010 8:19 AM

I think a graphic at some point in the game had Portis at 3 yards and 2 touchdowns

Posted by: PlayAction | September 20, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

"Floodgates opened? Really? Giving up 30 points (which was less than the AFC champion Colts gave up, by the way) to one of the top offenses in the league is opening the floodgates? Listening to you, you'd think we gave up 50 points"

Sorry, I do think blowing a 17pt 2nd half lead and giving up 468yds passing qualifies as floodgates. Right now, the defense has some critical problems that imo cant be written off to "it's a new scheme, give them time"

Doughty has been consistently smoked, not just on the 4th down Johnson td.

Andre Carter is no good in space, no amount of time in this scheme will change that.

As much as it's great to see Landry harassing the qb, it's shady that Orakpo seems to be our only legit pass rusher. That's just not going to cut it over the course of the season.

Make no mistake, the D is flawed. You can change the scheme in one offseason but it's almost impossible to make all the needed personnel changes in just one offseason.

Not saying the season is lost or anything, just that while it looks like the O is wonderfully improved...the D has probably regressed.

Posted by: divi3 | September 20, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Positives:

McNabb >>>>> JCampbell. JC got benched against the Rams.

Shanahan >>>>>> Zorn. Joe Flacco 4 ints yesterday. Too many slip n slide drills not enough real coaching there.

Laron Landry 2010 >>>>>> Laron Landry 2009.
Said it before. I LOVED watching him play yesterday. He was all over the field, throwing his body around. Too bad we have to have Doughty at free safety. RIP Sean Taylor, we miss you badly.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 20, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Best Case Scenario

Coaches put together all the "pros" that have been seen from the team over the past 2 weeks - explosive passing attack, good pass rush, shoring up the run D, get kareem Moore back and write off yesterday's pass D as a flukey game against league's top passer from 2009, Gano bounces back and doesn;t lose confidence.

Coaches are able to mask deficiencies in the run game. TWill's injury is not a big deal and run game slowly develops.

Rest of NFC East takes a step back this season as well.


Worst Case Scenario

Teams now have 2 games worth of tape on the previously "unknown" Redskins. Other teams exploit our lack of running game and devise schemes to limit the passing game. Texans secondary is one of worst in the league and DMac's big day is a fluke more than anything. TWill's injury keeps him hobbles; Jamaal Brown gets overworked and team needs to start leaning on Heyer and Artis Hicks at tackle which compromises pass-pro and run-block remains crappy.

Defense continues to have problems clicking and putting it all together in 3-4. Moore limps back, and FS position is liability all year.


Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Brian Orakpo says hi...so does London Fletcher...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Andre say hello back atcha and reminds you that London's retirement party is already booked.

Posted by: Pepper5 | September 20, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

monk, while Greg probably mispoke with the "delusional" remark, the bottom line is that it's borderline retarded to blame one guy for a loss. There's at least a half dozen reasons why the Skins lost and while Davis contributed he wasn't the sole cause. Saying otherwise is shortsighted at best...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Hess...I think the rushing woes have more to do with the line than they do the backs. Hopefully, that all works itself out VERY soon...


Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Brown, you're right, but they did manage to pass protect pretty well. I was at the game yesterday, and it was quite evident that Portis is slow. I love the guy. He is a beast of a blocker and really goes after it, but he can't get through any holes. He gets knocked off balance on first contact and goes down. P1funk mentioned that he can't break tackles anymore. And LJ is not much better. No one is running hard with a burst. Portis does block really well and can catch some passes. Maybe he could be converted to full back. Not sure if he's big enough for that, but I'd be very surprised to see him have many long runs.

Posted by: mj25 | September 20, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Brian Orakpo says hi...so does London Fletcher...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:30 AM

Rak yes, but there's no one else. LBF is not a great pass rusher. Has draws up a great scheme to free guys up. Rak's the only one who's shown he can beat one-on-one mtachups consistently from the LB level.

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

That was a great game....until Doughty was checking AH80 1 on 1 deep on 4th n 10....

I see no difference from the defense this year and the last 3 years.....

NONE....

Losing huge leads late in the 2nd half....

And the timeout rule does not need to be changed.

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 20, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Doughty has been consistently smoked, not just on the 4th down Johnson td.

Andre Carter is no good in space, no amount of time in this scheme will change that.

As much as it's great to see Landry harassing the qb, it's shady that Orakpo seems to be our only legit pass rusher. That's just not going to cut it over the course of the season.

Make no mistake, the D is flawed. You can change the scheme in one offseason but it's almost impossible to make all the needed personnel changes in just one offseason.

Not saying the season is lost or anything, just that while it looks like the O is wonderfully improved...the D has probably regressed.

Posted by: divi3 | September 20, 2010 9:32 AM


Doughty is an injury replacement, not a 16 game starter. Once Moore is back, RD takes his usual seat on the bench.

Carter is one of 4 starting LBs...the other 3 seem to fit the scheme just fine and have made plays in it already.

'Rak is our best pass rusher, but not our only one. Carriker looked like a one man wrecking crew in the first half and backed up my assertion before the season that he'd be our best D-lineman.

While you and Pepper choose to see the glass not only half empty, but broken to sh*t, I choose to see it half full. Last year, that game is a blowout. This year, we went toe-to-toe with one of the best offenses in the league.

The defense came up short down the stretch, but at the end of the day they gave up one TD too many. Saints fans probably did the same bellyaching you're doing after they gave up a ton of points/yards to us last year but we all see how that turned out for them...

Not saying we'll get the same result...just that the season isn't lost and the defense isn't necessarily the epically awful unit that some up here are calling it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Negatives:

Larry Johnson

Trent Williams. The one guy we can't afford to lose, we lost. How long is the big mystery.

Cinton Portis. Great in short yardage, bad in the open field, can't finish runs and stumbles over himself. But man I love his downfield blocking.

Defense. Good in spots, got pressure, but gave up too many big plays. Lack of talent in the backfield is the problem more than scheme.

Special teams. Like it or not, that blocked FG change the whole game. You have to lay that on Fred Davis' missed assignment / lack of effort. Gano makes that kick and its game over. I'm looking forward to Shanny's take on that at his presser.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 20, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Negatives:

Larry Johnson

Trent Williams. The one guy we can't afford to lose, we lost. How long is the big mystery.

Cinton Portis. Great in short yardage, bad in the open field, can't finish runs and stumbles over himself. But man I love his downfield blocking.

Defense. Good in spots, got pressure, but gave up too many big plays. Lack of talent in the backfield is the problem more than scheme.

Special teams. Like it or not, that blocked FG change the whole game. You have to lay that on Fred Davis' missed assignment / lack of effort. Gano makes that kick and its game over. I'm looking forward to Shanny's take on that at his presser.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 20, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Andre say hello back atcha and reminds you that London's retirement party is already booked.

Posted by: Pepper5 | September 20, 2010 9:33 AM


Again...you reference the one starting LB miscast in this defense and completely overlook the 3 that fit. And I'm dumbfounded that a Skins fan would book Fletcher's retirement party. Epically stupid remark. I'll bet Ray Lewis' retirement party comes long before Fletch's does....stick that in your pipe and smoke it...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

how did LJ lost 10 yards on that 1 run...

also who called for the Moss end around late in the game, was that Zorn??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

It's nice to see some folks looking for a silver lining after a game in which the defense choked. No other way to say it, they choked. They gave up a seventeen point lead, had houston down to their last down, and gave up a touchdown to one of the leagues best receivers on a jump ball. Houston boot leg all day on them and they fell to adjust. Offside's I'm mean really, come on dude, blocked field goal, missed field goal. The offense looked good, better than it has in the past decade, now the weak spot seems to be the "D". The NFC east is ripe for the taking, do what you need to do to make that happen.

Posted by: aviator3 | September 20, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

For all of you people that are saying the 3-4 change is the cause of the defense's demise, you are wrong. The defense has ALWAYS been a bend but not break Defense. Against the Cowboys, they did just that. They allowed the Cowboys to run all over them, luckily Jason Garrett is a moron. In this game, they happened to bend and also break. It's just one game, they will be fie.

Posted by: amorris525 | September 20, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

We lost because of lack of depth. Trent Williams goes down; Heyer gets hit with a holding penalty one play; completely misses his block the next time and, frankly, is the reason we don't sustain a drive to end the game in regular time.

Landry goes down; Doughty and Buchanon have zero communication and all of the sudden the middle left side of our defense backfield becomes the Texan's playground--I'm pretty sure they through to that side 80% after Landry was injured.

I'd be seriously looking at trading Albert for picks.

Posted by: jnel | September 20, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Greg, LJ inexplicably thought he was Barry Sanders for a minute...started off-tackle to the left, nothing there, stopped and started running backwards to try and break free the other way. Right with FD's half-effort on the FG as the dumbest play of the game...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

This may come as a huge shocker, but I'm a Portis fan.

This may also come as a huge shocker, but I think he's done.

Too early to tell if it's the offensive line crappy run blocking, or the quality of the front seven of the Texans and Cowboys, but from where I sit Portis looks finished.


And that sucks.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2010 9:23 AM

Dude....It's the Line play. Not Portis. If it was Portis, than someone else would have had needed to have a good game in the run....

Don't bail too early....IT's ONLY the 1st year, week 2 of Shanny...

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 20, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

how did LJ lost 10 yards on that 1 run...

also who called for the Moss end around late in the game, was that Zorn??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 9:50 AM

He (slowly) ran into a wall of Texans, then reversed field and ran (slowly) the wrong way before he was easily tackled for a loss. Sad.

Posted by: mack1 | September 20, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

also who called for the Moss end around late in the game, was that Zorn??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 9:50 AM

I was thinking they would run that at some point of the game...they faked the end around twice earlier.

Posted by: PlayAction | September 20, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

brownwood26 I'm not a glass half empty type. However, if the Skin's can't find other player who provides consistent pressure in a four man situation, yesterday pass against totals will be the norm instead of the aberration. With more tape, the QB's they face will understand the disguises Haslett is running to cover up for the team's deficiencies. Carter, Alexander, Wilson need to bring it from the other side more regularly for the defense to progress.

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

"While you and Pepper choose to see the glass not only half empty, but broken to sh*t, I choose to see it half full. Last year, that game is a blowout. This year, we went toe-to-toe with one of the best offenses in the league."

You mean like last year when the Saints high-powered offense blew us out at home? Oh wait, that was a 3pt OT loss too wasnt it?


"Not saying we'll get the same result...just that the season isn't lost and the defense isn't necessarily the epically awful unit that some up here are calling it."

Funny, I specifically said the season WASNT lost and that defense had regressed, not that it was epically awful.

Posted by: divi3 | September 20, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry - I understand CPo is not a speed demon (never was). But he's had respectable gains whenever there was an opportunity and he really is the best blocking RB in the business.

Those hits to the head on the TD runs were gut-wrenching.

They haven't been calling his number correctly. They'll get it eventually. Obviously it won't be a record setting year - but no one else will make records running the plays they've called for him so far.

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 20, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

"Carriker looked like a one man wrecking crew in the first half and backed up my assertion before the season that he'd be our best D-lineman."

The guy has like 3 career sacks and Schaub had basically all day to pick us apart in the 2nd half, but yeah, he did play well in the 1st half. Too bad the game is 2 halves.

Posted by: divi3 | September 20, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Best Case Scenario

Coaches put together all the "pros" that have been seen from the team over the past 2 weeks - explosive passing attack, good pass rush, shoring up the run D, get kareem Moore back and write off yesterday's pass D as a flukey game against league's top passer from 2009, Gano bounces back and doesn;t lose confidence.

Coaches are able to mask deficiencies in the run game. TWill's injury is not a big deal and run game slowly develops.

Rest of NFC East takes a step back this season as well.


Worst Case Scenario

Teams now have 2 games worth of tape on the previously "unknown" Redskins. Other teams exploit our lack of running game and devise schemes to limit the passing game. Texans secondary is one of worst in the league and DMac's big day is a fluke more than anything. TWill's injury keeps him hobbles; Jamaal Brown gets overworked and team needs to start leaning on Heyer and Artis Hicks at tackle which compromises pass-pro and run-block remains crappy.

Defense continues to have problems clicking and putting it all together in 3-4. Moore limps back, and FS position is liability all year.


Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Kudos to the Skins! Our team played their hearts out but a loss is a loss. At the least, this team is very competitive.

Posted by: abxinc | September 20, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

TWISI, the whole point of a 3-4 is to confuse the opponent to the point where they don't know who is coming or when. So having one elite pass rusher isn't a liability...it's only a problem if those other guys aren't making plays when they're right there to be made. For a game and a half, we got consistent pressure on the passer. You'll excuse me if I'm not freaking out over a bad half of defense...

divi, what you fail to realize is that we knew Gregggg Williams defense about as well as he did that day. If you've got another reason for why we could put 30 on the Saints but only 6 on the Chiefs, I'm all ears. I don't exactly recall JC going for 400 yards in that game either...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

I'll bet Ray Lewis' retirement party comes long before Fletch's does....stick that in your pipe and smoke it...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

The long season will noticeably wear down both Lewis and Fletcher. Enjoy these guys while they still have the juice to compete. But neither Lewis or Fletcher will be effective next year...

It's O.K. The sad fact that time marches on is hardly "epically stupid." Hey maybe Perry Riley can fill London's spot next year!

Posted by: Pepper5 | September 20, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Brown, can you recall the last time you saw Clinton Portis break a tackle?

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 9:13 AM


Nope. But that's because that ain't his game. He's a speed guy that was miscast as a power back here for years. I don't care if he falls forward, as long as he's falling forward after getting at least 4 or 5 yards a clip.

If you recall, nobody wanted to replace Portis at RB more than I did. But right now he's the best we've got and I think he's still got enough in the tank to be effective this year if his blocking is up to snuff. Thus far, it hasn't been. Unless he morphs into Jahvid Best, Torain ain't changing that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse


He was a speed guy. He transformed into a power-back, and did so successfully here (just look up his running numbers).

Now he is neither.

He is "caput" as a runner - till brings it as a blocker, though.

What Ryan Torain could possible bring is a "spark". I don't care if his running style is to stand on his hands and clutch the ball between his legs. It couldn't be any less effective than what we've seen from Portis/Johnson.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Kudos to the Skins! Our team played their hearts out but a loss is a loss. At the least, this team is very competitive.

Posted by: abxinc | September 20, 2010 10:05 AM

Is it sunday yet? haha

Posted by: PlayAction | September 20, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

"Doughty is an injury replacement, not a 16 game starter. Once Moore is back, RD takes his usual seat on the bench."

I suspect you're right. Doughty's strength is that he can play two positions. But he doesn't play either with much athleticism. He's certainly not the guy you'd want covering Andre Johnson in the end zone, for instance. But if you look at his overall productivity yesterday, it was still 10 tackles, 4 assists.

There are questions re Kareem Moore. Not about his athletic ability, about whether he can stay healthy and play at a high level over the course of a season. Nice to have somebody who can come in and play if it doesn't work out.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 20, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

You're right divi...let's focus on the 2nd half and ignore all the good that happened in the first half. Let's just cut everyone and start from scratch...baby with the bathwater and what not...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Wow...I just knew that we'd get a group up here completely overreacting to the loss. And sure enough...here's Cork with some assinine list of needs, Poopy crying how Vinny's influence is still here, and Thinker handing out choke awards to a rookie kicker, a career backup safety pressed into action against the best passing attack in football, and a 38 year-old receiver who shouldn't even be on the roster, yet hauled in a 60-something yard catch to set up a score. UFB...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 5:58 AM |

Whoa Browny, put the rifle down dude. I know Cork is an ass but he's right about those needs. Of course you can't fill all the holes this team had in one year and I'm glad Shanny went after the o line first but he's right. Thinker is definitely anything but a thinker but there were a couple chokers out there. Doughty played like sh!t, he didn't choke. I f I had to call a choke it wouldn't be Gano, it would be Davis for the Ole he pulled. I don't know if Vinny's influence on culture is still here but his players sure are taking up space on the roster. There was some truth in those people's statements.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

"What Ryan Torain could possible bring is a "spark". I don't care if his running style is to stand on his hands and clutch the ball between his legs."Posted by: p1funk

So why do you think they kept Keiland Williams?

Posted by: Samson151 | September 20, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

4th, i said it could be the line play or the quality of the front seven of the Cowboys and Texans.

You know I've been one of Portis' biggest supporters. I agree it could be the line play, but even when Portis is in space he just doesn't have the speed and elusiveness to beat anybody. When was the last time you saw Portis break one? Hell, when was the last time you saw Portis break a tackle?


Portis is who he is now: A between the tackles back, an up-field runner. The only problem is that Joe Gibbs ain't coaching this team anymore. It appears to me that in Shanahan's zone blocking scheme the RB is required to run off guard and tackle a lot. This requires you have quickness and speed to get to the edge.

Portis doesn't have it anymore.

Side note: You don't think they need to change the timeout before the snap rule? You gotta be joking, right?


Wonder how Shanahan felt when Kubiac did that? Shanahan was the one who started that bama ish in the first place if I can recall.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

And the timeout rule does not need to be changed.

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 20, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse


One way a team could make the whole "ice-the-kicker" scenario moot is by being able to run the ball, drain clock, and force the other team to burn their timeouts.

I know yesterday we were talking about OT and the scenario was a bit different, but I also see no reason to change the TO rule simply to protect a kicker's psyche.

The kicker just has to be clutch and hit the FG. Twice if necessary. He's getting paid too.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

We cannot blame one play and one player but I agree with Monk all the way, if Davis takes care of his assignement, and chips away at the defender, we score 3 more points and game is practically over. Just like Barron's holding penalty last week. Itw as not the only reason the cowgirls lost but if he takes care of his assignement on that play, we lose.

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | September 20, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

"(Portis is) great in short yardage, bad in the open field, can't finish runs and stumbles over himself..."

I think the irony is that CP wanted to play behind an improved line, now has one, and he is the suspect player IMO.

When you watch the game on NFL Network replay, watch his runs--two/three of them should have been huge gainers, but you'll see that CP doesn't have the 'burst' to accelerate upfield anymore.

K Williams--or some back with an added step--would really help right about now.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 20, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

"What Ryan Torain could possible bring is a "spark". I don't care if his running style is to stand on his hands and clutch the ball between his legs."Posted by: p1funk

So why do you think they kept Keiland Williams?

Posted by: Samson151 | September 20, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse


So start handing the rock to Keiland Williams.

Whatever ends this nonsense of handing it to CP so that he can fall forward for a yard and a half every carry at first contact...we've been watching that for a year and half now.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

What Ryan Torain could possible bring is a "spark". I don't care if his running style is to stand on his hands and clutch the ball between his legs. It couldn't be any less effective than what we've seen from Portis/Johnson.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 10:11 AM


I don't see how he's bring a "spark" if A) the problem is the blocking, not the running and B) if he couldn't even beat out Keiland Williams for a spot on the active roster. I was high on this guy during camp too, but until he shows it on the field in a REGULAR SEASON GAME, don't make this guy into the next Marcus Mason...

Pepper, you're better than this, dude...neither Lewis or Fletcher are slowing down and you haven't seen anything to lead you to believe that. If you're trying to make an out of the box prediction, then say so. But we saw Favre go for 34 TDs at age 40 and Darrell Green play CB at 42. Dude is 50 and still runs a 4.3. Lewis and Fletch are world beaters until further notice...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Shoulda, woulda coulda....I guess that is how things go. Houston is a solid team with a great offense (Schaub led league in yards last season) so we had to know they were going to get their yards. I was impressed that the D was able to hold them off for as long as they did and that the offense, for the most part, was able to keep up. Yes, there are a few plays here and there that "if" something a little different would have happened, we would be talking about 2-0 instead of 1-1. Truthfully, to start this season, I think anyone up here would have been pleased with 1-1 after our first 2 games (especially with a team that actually looks decent). The biggest problem I see right now is our run game (or lack thereof). If that is working, it makes it much easier to win games like this one because we can chew the clock.

Posted by: HokiesSkins | September 20, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

monk, they gave up nearly 500 yards passing

heyer had a holding penalty that wiped out a first down in the 4th quarter

on 4th and 10, they gave up a td pass

to say this is ONLY on FD is akin to bringing up his 'over sleeping' and 'giggling'....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

You guys don't read too well. I said if I HAD TO BLAME ONE GUY, I didn't come in here trying to lay everything on Davis. Somebody asked about Davis and I explained about that missed block.
So it's wrong to blame everything on a player that cost us a 10 point lead late in a game??? Tell that to Shawn Suisham who did the same thing last year against New Orleans and got kicked to the curb the next day!!!
I was trying to point out that his blocking sucks, it's 2 weeks in a row he has cost us good field position or points cause he can't block.
I had to blame him (now listen again slow people, it's hypothetical, not saying for real that I blame him) because if Gano makes that field goal, we are up by 10 pts, 2 possessions, with somewhere around 3-4 minutes to play. Which means Williams doesn't get injured, and Heyer doesn't come in and get called for holding to make us punt and force overtime. It also means Doughty is not put in a bad position trying to knock the ball away from the best WR in the game. If we make that FG, that TD never ties the game.
I picked Davis because all of the bad things that happened afterward never would have happened. I understand that it was a total team effort (or lack-there-of) that is the real reason we lost, just saying.....

Posted by: monk811 | September 20, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

These kind of heartbreaking losses come to teams on the way up....devestating but more positives than negatives..

Also you know its the regular season when BG starts fighting with people about the game who actually..watched the game....(and I am out of market to...we borrow a web access Direct TV account from a friends sister than wire laptop to TV using iphone Air Mouse to change channels...or go to a bar...have missed like 5/6 games since I moved to NYC in 96)

Fred Davis' inability to even touch the outside rusher on the blocked field goal was of course on the very short list of key plays in the game that gave Texans the chance the victory from the jaws of defeat. Can Davis be an offensive threat, of course, but he is also spectacularly bad at other aspects of the game that make him a liability. Go read John Kiem's take on Davis after last week and why he wasn't effective on offense. If Davis even poorly manages his duties on FG Teams were talking a whole different deal here Monday Morning.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I assume from what I saw (I don't have a wide-screen TV) that the Texans were able to come back after being down 17 points mainly because the Redskins couldn't pressure their QB in 4th and the LB's couldn't adjust to his roll out stuff.

A lot of this would be overlooked were it not for that silly jump ball play to tie the game however.

Posted by: Pepper5 | September 20, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

True, he has not seemed 'elusive' recently, but I want someone else to do better than him on our team before I make any real proclaimations.....because the guy seems to be doing everything else right......

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 20, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

You guys have it all wrong...the loss is Trent Williams' fault...for getting injured.

Posted by: PlayAction | September 20, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

TWISI, the whole point of a 3-4 is to confuse the opponent to the point where they don't know who is coming or when.

brownwood26

BW26 good luck confusing the Mannings, Rodgers, Farve. Good luck confusing Reid. The team needs another pass rusher. Against elite QB/offenses, you're not going to fool them that much, ask Schaub. The skins will need to pressure with four guys and get there or leave these safeties and OLB to make plays. That's what the game tape will show other teams. The Skins will need to address that quickly.

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

The thread I skipped on purpose:

Albert Haynesworth tested ankle, couldn't go

In the game where some gave all, and all gave some, AH had nothing to give.

Instead, we got to watch M Williams do what we'd like to see AH do: manhandle a team's opposing offensive lineman at a critical juncture in the game and get a crucial sack.

Instead, from AH, all we is injury updates in light of LL and others playing 'til exhaustion.

Somebody needs to tell the 21 million dolla man that sometimes, you have to play hurt.

A Johnson did, and won the game for his team.


Posted by: MistaMoe | September 20, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

What a bunch of jerks on this blog! Texans man handled the Colts last week. Redskins have improved so dramatically from last year, we should equal our total win total from last year (4)in no time. Meanwhile, the other NFC East teams are looking terrible. Maybe some of you naysayers should become Ravens fans. Oh wait, they lost yesterday.

Posted by: VegasJim | September 20, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I don't see how he's bring a "spark" if A) the problem is the blocking, not the running and B) if he couldn't even beat out Keiland Williams for a spot on the active roster. I was high on this guy during camp too, but until he shows it on the field in a REGULAR SEASON GAME, don't make this guy into the next Marcus Mason...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse


See, I think the problem is BOTH (A) and (B).

Since we can't just replace the whole Oline, maybe by mixing it up with the runner we can find a spark.

Teams do stuff like that all the time, browny, and I'm not sure why you are treating it like a Latin incantation.

Give it Keiland Williams. Elevate Torain as the 3rd back. Cut LJ. Make CP your 3rd down back b/c he can still block. Do something. Anything. Whatever ends this obvious insanity of expecting Clinton Portis to just regain some kind of form from 2 years ago.

It obviously ain't happening.

Marcus Mason? I'm sure he couldn't do any worse for us than what CP/LJ have shown us in the first 2 games.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

These kind of heartbreaking losses come to teams on the way up....devestating but more positives than negatives..

by cL

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I was at the game and thats how I saw it....

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 20, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Hey Orakpo - when the Skins go up by 17 in the 2nd half that's your time to shine. I'm expecting 2-3 sacks from you in those situations.

Posted by: coparker5 | September 20, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

If Portis is as bad as Red describes, Coach will recognize it and make a change. It won't be to LJ.

Sadly, Portis is probably the best back for the scheme that the Skins have right now and he can pass block like nobody's business. So we're stuck with him for this year as long as he's healthy.

Posted by: Pepper5 | September 20, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

twisi

"Good luck confusing....The team needs another pass rusher. Against elite QB/offenses, you're not going to fool them that much, ask Schaub."


The stillers, ravens, packers, and jets all play a hybrid 3-4, and shut down the run and pass.

Our weakness is in our outside linebacker/free safety play.

We don't have a J Harrison/L Woodley or A Cromartie/D Revis.

In a couple of drafts, we might find those players.

But for right now, the 3-4 is the best defense in a time of freewilling passing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 20, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I don't see how he's bring a "spark" if A) the problem is the blocking, not the running and B) if he couldn't even beat out Keiland Williams for a spot on the active roster. I was high on this guy during camp too, but until he shows it on the field in a REGULAR SEASON GAME, don't make this guy into the next Marcus Mason...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse


Brown. Maybe the problem is BOTH the run-blocking AND the running.

See, right now (today) the Skins are ranked 30th in the league is rushing...you know which 2 teams are below us?? 49ers and Saints. You know why they are below us? Because they play their second game tonight.

Since we can't just replace the whole Oline, maybe by mixing it up with the runner we can find a spark and improve on our current 2.7 ypc.

Teams do stuff like that all the time, browny, and I'm not sure why you are treating it like a Latin incantation.

Give it tp Keiland Williams. Elevate Torain as the 3rd back. Cut LJ. Make CP your 3rd down back b/c he can still block. Do something. Anything. Whatever ends this obvious insanity of expecting Clinton Portis to just regain some kind of form from 2 years ago.

It obviously ain't happening.

Marcus Mason? I'm sure he couldn't do any worse for us than what CP/LJ have shown us in the first 2 games.

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

The only thing about this game was it showed how thin depth wise the Skins are...the drop off from Williams/Landry was apparent on the very next plays they were out.

If you dont love Landry this season, you dont love football.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

BW26 good luck confusing the Mannings, Rodgers, Farve. Good luck confusing Reid. The team needs another pass rusher. Against elite QB/offenses, you're not going to fool them that much, ask Schaub. The skins will need to pressure with four guys and get there or leave these safeties and OLB to make plays. That's what the game tape will show other teams. The Skins will need to address that quickly.

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2010 10:27 AM


Actually, if you go back and look at Manning's playoff career, his season usually ends badly against a 3-4 defense. Pittsburgh made him look inept on more than one occasion and the biggest name LB they had was James Harrison--a guy who just two years prior was an undrafted slappy at the end of the bench. Point is, if you run the defense effectively, guys you've never heard of become household names.

Favre doesn't discriminate...he throw picks to EVERYONE. Eli Manning is the most overrated QB in the league and Rodgers played well against the Cards' 3-4 last year but still lost.

This defense has played TWO GAMES. Let's not speak in such absolutes just because two of the unit's 9 quarters together looked bad...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Also you know its the regular season when BG starts fighting with people about the game who actually..watched the game....

yeah cl, crazy of me not to blame an offensive player for the loss, when the defense gave up over 500 yards...did I really have to watch the game to determine that FD wasn't solely to blame...I mean, wasn't Heyer's holding penalty equally as damaging...would have given them a first down deep in Houston territory late in the game...but then, I didn't watch the game so what do I know...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Wow, there's quite a bit of overreacting here.

The Texans didn't outplay the Redskins. Kubiak didn't outcoach Shanahan. You know how this game was won?

*A lazy block on a field goal attempt resulted in a blocked FG

*A 4th & 10 hail mary-esque prayer was completed to tie the game

*A Trent Williams injury translated into a Stephon Heyer holding penalty which killed a could-be game winning drive in regulation

*A missed FG in overtime resulted in great field position for the Texans

*A Laron Landry injury in OT resulted in a 3rd down penalty and 28 yard, game clinching catch by his replacement

Sure, there are still some obvious weaknesses. Doughty is not a starting caliber FS. The defensive line outside of Adam Carriker needs some upgrades (yes, Haynesworth could have definitely helped). The running game is missing that special athlete who can break tackles or make players miss to extend runs. And depth behind our stars remains a concern.

But even with that, this game definitely should have been won by the Redskins.

A couple other points that I learned from this game:

- Galloway still has game. This receiving corp in general could be a real threat throughout the season (including TEs)

- Landry may be on his way to rightfully claim "best player" status on defense. Brian Orakpo is right there as well. Both will be cornerstones for a long time to come

- Losing Trent Williams shows you just how valuable he is to this team.

Posted by: psps23 | September 20, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm curious why they didn't move JBRown over to LT, and Heyer in at RT....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

"I didn't watch the game so what do I know..."

Couldn't have said it better myself....

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

There are several pros and cons to yesterday's game. However, there is one thing that absolutely everybody should take away from yesterday. The Redskin's have a very good quarterback and anytime a team in the NFL has a quality quarterback they have a chance to win. I'm extremely encouraged about their prospects the next few years.

Posted by: Gambrills4 | September 20, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

haha, cl, yeah, you're the only informed one among us...I had forgotten...only your opinion is the correct one...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

pfunk, all I'm saying is throwing in a young player who didn't even make the final 53 isn't gonna magically make the running game go. I'm all for replacing Portis...but only if there's something better waiting in the wings. I'm not sure there is. If 5 guys are tripping over each other at the line of scrimmage, the only guy running around that mess is Barry Sanders and he's old and retired now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

If the D continues to bite on the bootleg, we're going to be in trouble against more mobile QB's. Seriously, just about every bootleg resulted in a big play.

Posted by: oh_boy1 | September 20, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Of course not my only opinion that matters, but sue me if I give credence to people who....gulp...watch the games over those that read box scores to summarize key points toward deciding W/L. NO ONE who saw Fred Davis' complete and utter whiff that gave free ride to dude blocking a FG that puts Skins up by 10 with less than 3 minutes to play can deny that wasn't a glaring mistake. That play might as well have been 10 guys against 11.

Box scores lie more in football than any other major sport.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I wonder where Alan4 is at, ready to champion Jason Campbell?

Posted by: ga8085 | September 20, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

*A lazy block on a field goal attempt resulted in a blocked FG

*A 4th & 10 hail mary-esque prayer was completed to tie the game

*A Trent Williams injury translated into a Stephon Heyer holding penalty which killed a could-be game winning drive in regulation

*A missed FG in overtime resulted in great field position for the Texans

*A Laron Landry injury in OT resulted in a 3rd down penalty and 28 yard, game clinching catch by his replacement

me, I think psp summarized it pretty well above...hopefully he watched the game, other wise these are rendered moot...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse


Folks, let's not forget it was Shanahan that started icing NFL kickers in 2007 vs the Oakland Raiders. Talk about something coming back to bite you in the ass. Although he probably didn't invent it, he certainly introduced the idea to the NFL.

Posted by: hessone | September 20, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

When is Trent's MRI? No updates yet today?

Had stomach cramps after the game from getting so worked up.

Really really tough loss.

But I think we can win this division if we stay healthy.

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 20, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

MRI shows mo structural damage to Trent Williams knee....

Posted by: 4-12 | September 20, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I wonder where Alan4 is at, ready to champion Jason Campbell?

Posted by: ga8085

Or pabrian... how ironic that McNabb threw for over 400 yards yesterday and JC got benched. I think yesterday's performance put to rest all the JC talk. Clearly you are pretty dumb if you're still dwelling over JC after yesterday's game. Now JC's starting job is in jeopardy.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 20, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Really?!! No talk of taking shots at covered deep routes when the underneath was available? Clock management? nothing?

mebbe we weren't watching the same games.

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 20, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Bean, Cl is basing his opinion on something he saw. Where is your opinion coming from?

Posted by: mack1 | September 20, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse


Box scores lie more in football than any other major sport.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2010 10:53 AM |

You got me if that's a fact, but FDavis CANNOT BLOCK and that's a fact.

Posted by: hessone | September 20, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

We need to give the d some time. It will come around, remember they're learning a new scheme as well. Green Bay last year had similar issues early on, but were lights out the second half of the season. Hoping for similar results...

Also, I thought the game kinda turned on the Orakpo sack when we were still up 17, I think...they've been preaching all frickin summer to not settle for the sack, but to go for the strip. This was a PERFECT time to go for the strip, he was coming from behind schaub and schaub had no idea he was there. If we get a strip, game over. Instead, they score and start to get some serious momentum.

Shoulda coulda woulda.

Posted by: stevek20147 | September 20, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4-12 | September 20, 2010 11:01 AM

This is great news if true. Source?

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 20, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Here ya go pfunk...since we're only a RB away and all:

Report: Brandon Jacobs will ask for trade
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 20, 2010 10:07 AM ET
Will Brandon Jacobs' east-west run and subsequent helmet toss/benching be his final act as a New York Giant?

That's what Jacobs hopes, according to a report from Vinny DiTrani, longtime writer of the Bergen Record that just can't stop covering Big Blue. DiTrani reports that Jacobs will meet with Giants management Monday and request a trade.

Good luck with that. Perhaps a divorce is best for both sides, but there is no team that would remotely be interested in Jacobs considering his salary and attitude. He's toxic. Oh, and he hasn't been particularly effective since the start of 2009.

The Giants gave Jacobs $13 million guaranteed before 2009 and surely regret it now. He no longer produces and seems to take his frustration out on others. There's next to no chance he'll be back in New York at $4.65 million next year, so the only question is whether the Giants keep him for the rest of this year.

Considering the money they have already paid Jacobs, we'd think they'd try to calm Jacobs down, wait for his emotions to subside, and get something out of him. They are getting used to that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Box scores lie more in football than any other major sport.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2010 10:53 AM

My box score said 30-27. Did the guys watching the game see it differently? What did I miss?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 20, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

BW26 like I said, I'm generally optimistic regarding the Skins this year. The lack of pressure is more concerning to me than the run game because I think over time that will get corrected with more familiarity with the defensive concepts. The pass rush will come down to individual play at crucial times because offenses will eventually scheme protections to Haslett's tendencies. I don't see anyone stepping up in that department yet but Rak.

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

"mo" = "no"

important distinction!

Posted by: 4-12 | September 20, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

you wouldn't be yankin' our chain, would you, 4-12?

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 20, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

yeah mack, I didn't see the game, so only those who saw the game can weigh in on it....yep, Its all Fred Davis's fault...no one else had one misstep...just david......yikes...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

It's breaking news...expect beeps shortly

Posted by: 4-12 | September 20, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

What I don't get about this particular post is that Landry ended up missing two plays following his injury.

The first was the 3rd down play that resulted in Horton jumping offside.

The second was Horton being beat for the 28 yard gain.

Why couldn't Landry have reentered after the penalty? Does that not count as a missed down for Landry?

Shanahan should have called a timeout for his injury; that would have allowed Landry to reenter without missing a snap. We had two left and it's an overtime game -- no need to hold onto those. That was a mistake.

Posted by: psps23 | September 20, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

pfunk, all I'm saying is throwing in a young player who didn't even make the final 53 isn't gonna magically make the running game go. I'm all for replacing Portis...but only if there's something better waiting in the wings. I'm not sure there is. If 5 guys are tripping over each other at the line of scrimmage, the only guy running around that mess is Barry Sanders and he's old and retired now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse


I just don;t get it. By your logic, there is never a reason/scenario to give the next a guy a chance unless CP gets injured.

When your rushing game is basically the worst in the league (and after tonight, I'm betting that it will be statistically), whatever is waiting in the wings could not be worse.

With regards to CP/LJ; is there some kind of untapped potential we are waiting to see explode?

CP is supposedly healthier and more motivated this year than he's been in a long time. He looks no different from the unmotivated half-arsed injured bum we saw last season.

Arian Foster averaged 6 yards-per-touch (rushing/receiving) yesterday. He spent most of last season on the practice squad for the Texans, and apprently couldn't beat out Steve Slaton or Ryan Moats or whoever else they had on the 53 in front of him.

Just sayin...

Posted by: p1funk | September 20, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT'S ANALYSIS:

a) Too many mistakes at crucial times.

One mistake that has not been mentioned was when McNabb converted a 3rd and 20 to Moss deep in our own territory, but was negated by a hold against Stephon Heyer.

b) miscommunication in the secondary.

c) we are EXTREMELY vulnerable in the secondary...If we don't get to the quarterback, teams can throw on us all day.

d) Stephon Heyer at LT is a disaster.

Posted by: rickyroge | September 20, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Clearly you are pretty dumb if you're still dwelling over JC after yesterday's game. Now JC's starting job is in jeopardy.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 20, 2010 11:01 AM


The only dumb ones are the ones still taking shots at JC now that he's literally as far from Redskins Park as possible.

We've got 53 of our own guys to talk about...why pay JC or the Raiders any mind?

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

MRI shows mo structural damage to Trent Williams knee....

Posted by: 4-12

I'm waiting to breathe a sigh of relief. I hope this is true.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 20, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse


beeps to Williams

Posted by: hessone | September 20, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

good beep beep

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Patience my RI brethren...

This team as it is composed can be average to pretty good, and I'll take it for now. We have holes all over the place that cannot be solved in one offseason.

Thanks to Vinny Cerrato, we are exposed at many positions. Jim (HAYS-LETT in my Spurrier voice) is making lemonade out of lemons with this defensive personnel.

Posted by: rickyroge | September 20, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

only those who saw the game can weigh in on it....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 20, 2010 11:06 AM

You don't get the message, do you? Not only can you not weigh in on it, but you shouldn't even be posting this week. Watch the game next Sunday then you can resume posting on Monday.

I saw the game. Davis used the "turnstile" technique on that block. It works well for loading a train in rush hour.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 20, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Good luck with that. Perhaps a divorce is best for both sides, but there is no team that would remotely be interested in Jacobs considering his salary and attitude. He's toxic. Oh, and he hasn't been particularly effective since the start of 2009.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 11:04 AM |

London Fletcher reached into his chest cavity and removed his heart with that devastating hit he put on him last year. Jacobs hasn't been the same since.

Posted by: MColeman51 | September 20, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I blame Davis more than anyone else because he cost us points at an important time in the game. That blocked FG gave them momentum and kept it a 1 score game.
I guess I'd better stop talking, I'm upsetting a few people that can't take it, and getting their panties in a bunch. Waahh, he said it's Davis' fault, waaahh!

Posted by: monk811 | September 20, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

pfunk, it's simple really...if a guy is outplaying your starter in camp/practice, you go with him. I could understand your logic if Shanahan was just playing Portis. But Portis got pulled in the 3rd quarter. They went with LJ...no dice. They went with Williams...nothing. They put 3 different backs in the game and got the same result. That tells me it's the line, not entirely the RBs.

The Texans example is flawed...Foster won that gig in training camp/preseason this year. If we had a younger and better option, he'd be playing. We don't. So pulling Portis doesn't do anything except change the name of the player we're blaming for the lack of rushing.

As I said...I'm all for pulling Portis. But only if we're putting in someone better. That guy ain't on the roster, or he'd be starting.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

CPo is fine when there's a play to actually run.

I wouldn't be surprised if Foster was doping; that's some incredible turnaround. Granted, that line was pretty fierce in the 2nd half.

Really guys? This all comes down to players & plays with you? No coaching? no reading?

I'm sorry - it seems like y'all are missing the point. Hey, I could be wrong - but am I? Really? Really?

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 20, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

This was an exciting game...but it should not have been. The Skins were in control...and just fell apart on defense.
I have said over and over...that our Defense is really suspect..and it proved to be true.
Landry is great...except in coverage. Hall is pretty good...as for the rest, they couldn`t cover my grandmother.
If they do not cut Reed Doughty...there will be a lot more receivers that will kill this team. Doughty has shown over and over..he cannot stay with receivers. Horton...was a flash in the pan..in his first year. If they have to..go find some additional corners...to use as safeties...then do it.
who is hitting the receivers coming off the line of scrimmage?
This game was a real measure of the team going forward. Not because they lost...but because they had the game...and let t get away...while giving up 500 yds. in passing.

I`m sorry..Kyle Shanahan....made some bad calls in key situations. WASHINGTON WAS MOVING RIGHT DOWN THE FIELD BY PASSING THE BALL...THEN THEY GET NEAR OR IN THE RED ZONE...AND HE CALLS RUNNING PLAYS...WHICH WENT NO WHERE. WHY NOT CONTINUE TO USE THE PASS..TIL THEY STOP IT? WE HAVE NOT HAD A RUNNING GAME SINCE THE BEGINNING OF PRE-SESON.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | September 20, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

hessone

"...let's not forget it was Shanahan that started icing NFL kickers in 2007 vs the Oakland Raiders."


I forgot about that.

And when CBS flashed the time out situation before Gano's kick, I hoped Shanny would call a timeout (we had two) to settle the kid down, seeing how Kubiak was out to 'ice' him.

And let's not begrudge Kubiak's coaching performace either.

Dude is a good coach.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 20, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

1: HOW IS TRENT WILLIAMS????

2: We NEED to get TDs on one or both of those first two drives.

3: What kind of coverage were we playing yesterday!??!??!?! We got some good pressure, but we left everyone wide open all day long...

Posted by: msveasey | September 20, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

It would not matter who the running back is...it is a problem with the O line. Portis showed a good burst..on the rare occasion there was a hole.
When Mike had all those great running teams in Denver...the constant was his O line.
That is why so many backs were productive.
Some...who did nothing after leaving Denver.
Sure, CP is not as fast as he was....but look how great a blocker he is...that is as important as him running. Most backs cannot do that. Teams are more successful
rushing our QB..when he is not in the game.

People who want to replace CP..are not factoring in his other skills...which still make him important to the team!! How many other backs in the league will take on a D lineman or line backer?

Posted by: blazerguy234 | September 20, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Laron Landry is a liability in deep coverage.. and he needs to stop celebrating like a child after every play..
Same with Santana Moss - who disappeard in the 2nd half. The dude gets a decent game and acts like he just won the Super Bowl..

Oh, and the Skins' should drop Sellers, Portis, and Johnson..

There run game is a liability..

Posted by: ObamaisFraud | September 20, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Some Quotes From Last Week
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ad9inaz wrote:
Good teams have wide receivers who make difficult catches. Do the Skins have such a receiver?
9/14/2010 10:21:29 AM

TexansSteve wrote:
First off... Good job beating the Cowgirls ( Hate the Cowgirls ). Off that note whats the predictions for this week 2 game. Im going my Texans win 28-17. Trust me will score more than 7 points.
9/14/2010 11:26:31 AM

ChadPerry07 wrote:
if we dont put devin thomas oppposite of santanna are offense is gunna keep strugglin..galloway ant gunna do it he was even looked at in the game...incosistant or not thomas is the best reciever we got besides moss!!!!!!!!
9/13/2010 8:41:35 PM

Posted by: jboogie1 | September 20, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Some Quotes From Last Week
--------------

ad9inaz wrote:
Good teams have wide receivers who make difficult catches. Do the Skins have such a receiver?
9/14/2010 10:21:29 AM

TexansSteve wrote:
First off... Good job beating the Cowgirls ( Hate the Cowgirls ). Off that note whats the predictions for this week 2 game. Im going my Texans win 28-17. Trust me will score more than 7 points.
9/14/2010 11:26:31 AM

ChadPerry07 wrote:
if we dont put devin thomas oppposite of santanna are offense is gunna keep strugglin..galloway ant gunna do it he was even looked at in the game...incosistant or not thomas is the best reciever we got besides moss!!!!!!!!
9/13/2010 8:41:35 PM

After I do some actual work, I'll dig up some of the more prophetic ones...

Posted by: jboogie1 | September 20, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I've had a lot of friends (Skins fans and non) claim the time out call during Gano's perfect field goal kick shouldn't have been counted because the snap already had been done and besides being a dirty timed call, their DVR's dont lie. I have a feeling something is going to be changed in the rule book to prevent that. Texans 2nd half comeback my foot. We played extremely well and if we had a couple more of our big players in the game including people like Haynesworth (I dont care to see him much more but as long as we're payin I'd like to seehim playin...He mighta made a difference) and Landry if it weren't for the minor injury.

Posted by: jcbiznesman | September 20, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

@ jcbiznesman

I wondered about that myself. While we can't really contest the move, which Shanahan invented, it looked like the ball was snapped before the whistle.

Seriously though, if the tables were turned, we wouldn't be complaining about the timeout- well, some folks would, but only the ones that like having things to complain about (you know who you are).

Posted by: jboogie1 | September 20, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I can't let the "we have a great offense" comment go. We have a QB that's about all. No running game. Don't put it all on the O-line. CP's sun is setting and Larry our-goal-line-is-the-other-friggin-direction who? Skins have zero vertical game on both sides of the ball. Vertical means up, not just deep. Today's NFL air game is about out-muscling and out-jumping the other dude to the ball. The all-smurfs receiving corps don't cut it any more...even Cooley is undersized @ TE. When a QB knows his guys can't outjump and out-muscle the DB's, let's count the routes this liminates: fade, post, seam, back shoulder, just about anything in the end zone. What you are left with: short outs, digs, hooks, drag, hitch, screen and misdirection stuff. Sound familiar?

Posted by: norm_ally | September 20, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Let's not dismiss the fact that we should have beaten one of the potential best teams in the NFL yesterday--the Texans are one of the trendiest sleeper Super Bowl picks.
We haven't gotten the old Redskins out of us quite yet, but I'm inclined to take Boswell's side and see the positives that came of this game. While the negatives are obvious and have been mentioned countless times in the previous posts, I can't remember a time this decade when I enjoyed watching the Redskins play more than I did in those first 3 quarters. I lost track of how many times my buddies and I remarked on how "Un-Redskins" our play was.
In the meantime, St Louis seems like the perfect team on which to take out our frustrations in week 3, and hopefully we'll get a chance to work out some of our issues--let's look ahead to that.

Posted by: freishy | September 20, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Steeler fan but "adopted" the Skins as my second team while living in the DC area years ago.
In both games so far this year literally every time there is a big pass play for the opposition Reed Doughty is being beaten like a drum on it.
They seriously can't find anyone better?

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | September 20, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Laron Landry is a liability in deep coverage.. and he needs to stop celebrating like a child after every play..
the Super Bowl..
Posted by: ObamaisFraud
-----------------------------
I don't really care about 'celebrations' after the hit. At least LaRon was completing all of his assignments versus others. Returning to the main topic, I understand why Landry was mad. I would be too when he had that level of productivity only to be taken out over a minor injury. Like they say in street basketball- no blood, no foul!

Posted by: phenomena1 | September 20, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

@ Posted by: bosshog7169

Sarcasm is thy name!

Posted by: whatyoutalkinboutman | September 20, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

So far we are SO much better than last year. Sort of like expecting the President to fix the economy in 2 years. It's going to take patience. McNabb was an absolute steal; Moss and Cooley are fabulous; and gotta love Orakpo!!!

Posted by: seaduck2001 | September 20, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, there were plenty of nominations for The Choke Award. Gano. Doughty. Horton. Galloway. Davis. Johnson.

Posted by: Thinker_ | September 20, 2010 1:26 AM

_______________________________

let me add Heyer which got bulldozed like a sissy, honestly I can't even imagine why he's in the roster, he never improved, put that OL kid from WVU, Selvish Capers in and develop him we got bad depth at OL

Posted by: alucard1 | September 20, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

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