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Posted at 6:22 PM ET, 12/13/2010

LaRon Landry's stellar season ended early by injury

By Jason Reid

Strong safety LaRon Landry's best season officially ended Monday when coach Mike Shanahan announced that the Redskins plan to put him on the season-ending injured reserve list because of an Achilles' tendon injury.

It had been clear for weeks that Landry's stellar season would be cut short by the injury, but the four-year veteran proved a lot in nine games. Some critics had labeled Landry - the sixth-overall pick in the 2007 draft - a bust after he struggled during a miserable 2009 season.

Landry tackled poorly, often seemed lost in coverage and was not a playmaker, partly by design, as a free safety in former defensive coordinator Greg Blache's 4-3 scheme. But Landry found himself again in Jim Haslett's aggressive 3-4 defense.

"We've talked about him throughout the year," Coach Mike Shanahan said. "I thought the first half of the season, he'd be [the league's defensive] MVP with the way he was playing."

Haslett moved Landry back to strong safety, the position the Redskins drafted him to play, and he flew around the field in the first nine games, making plays against the run and the pass.The Redskins lack the personnel in many positions to operate effectively in their 3-4 defensive scheme, as shown by their last-place ranking in the league, but they seem to be set at strong safety.

Landry possesses the speed and athleticism needed to fill a variety of roles, which Haslett asked him to do this season. Whether Haslett asked him to blitz, play in the box, drop into zone coverage or cover in man-to-man, Landry played at the highest level of his career.

And Landry regained his status as a big hitter. The former LSU star delivered big blows against running backs and wide receivers. Unlike past seasons, however, he rarely missed tackles while trying for knockout blows. He was usually under control, doing whatever was needed on each play.

Haslett's scheme suits Landry well because it enables him to be involved in the action. As the "tip of the umbrella," as Blache sometimes described Landry's past role in deep coverage, Landry often felt detached from plays. That's no longer the case.

Veteran safety Reed Doughty, who has started in place of Landry, is smart and a hard worker. Doughty, however, does not possess Landry's physical tools. The team has few playmakers on offense and defense, and Landry makes things happen.

Landry has a base salary of a little more than $3.017 million and received another $150,000 in bonuses. He is scheduled to receive a base salary of a little more than $3.7 million in 2011, but may have earned a new contract with a big raise.

Although Shanahan is in the process of determining which members of the current roster should move forward with the team, it appears Landry has already made the cut.

"Hopefully, he can get well," Shanahan said. "And get ready to go for next season."

By Jason Reid  | December 13, 2010; 6:22 PM ET
Categories:  LaRon Landry  
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Comments

Nice season LaRon, heal up and get ready to bring it next year.

Posted by: ludlam33 | December 13, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Any comments on Kareem Moore...I heard nothing but glowing reports about this dude but he never makes big plays on the ball and takes bad angles on tackling.

Posted by: gallrick | December 13, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

"Mike Shanahan: No thought of going for two Sunday"


Even without the benefit of hindsight, perhaps he should have.

He had a kicker miss a 34 yard FG, a 24 yarder, and probably would have missed his only other extra point attempt if it were just one yard further out. It was raining, and he's got a LS with a tendency to send the snap high. Seems to me odds were in favor of going for two in that situation.

Personally, I'd rather give Shanahan the business for going for two (and the outright win) and missing it than what we're seeing now--a laughing stock that couldn't nail down what is supposed to be the biggest gimme in all of professional football.

Whateves...it is what is.

Posted by: brownwood26

I agreed with Shanny's call. XP is 95% chance, OT is 50% chance if we get there.

But from the 3, we'd just taken 4 shots for a score and made only 1 ... 25%.

To me, a 2 point conversion is a bit like blackjack. Its less than a 50/50 deal most of the time ... but there are situations where the deck is stacked in your favor and you should go for it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 13, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Dirty 30, DHall, Orakpo, Fletch, Lorenzo--not bad pieces to build a D around.

Posted by: boothintexas | December 13, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

This team is truly jinxed this year. LaRon was having some kind of year. Feel bad for the kid. One of the bright spots this year. Get well, and take it to them next year.

Posted by: diamond_jim | December 13, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I respect Fletcher... But too old to be considered a cornerstone of the defense

Posted by: gallrick | December 13, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Dirty 30, DHall, Orakpo, Fletch, Lorenzo--not bad pieces to build a D around.

Posted by: boothintexas | December 13, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse


I admire your optimism. Do you see Fletcher in the league next year? The year after? Plus it would be nice to have more than 4 or 5 decent players to count on, esp. with no Dline

Posted by: zornskins2 | December 13, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Anyone want to get all up and arms about the team not utilizing Fred Davis more? I can only recall one pass bouncing off his useless hands yesterday.

Posted by: mack1 | December 13, 2010 6:30 PM

He's a half ass player. He half asses route running, run/pass blocking, and his worthless ass only catches half the passes that come his way

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

The Skins need a franchise QB bad. McNabb's age is starting to show more and more. The only sure deal in this year's draft is Andy Luck and he is going to be gobbled up by Zona or the Pants. Mallett Head, Foot Locker and Cam Shaft are all projects. If the Skins wait until next year then they might have a chance to get Matt Barkman. Most of the sucko teams should have QB'ed up by then so another 4-12'er or 5-11'er will put the Skins in the catbird seat.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth photoshops from Hogs Haven. Pretty funny

http://www.hogshaven.com/2010/12/13/1873034/results-from-the-haynesworth-photoshop-contest-are-spectacular?ref=yahoo

Posted by: Diesel44

thx for the link, some fabulously funny stuff in there!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 13, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

He's a half ass player. He half asses route running, run/pass blocking, and his worthless ass only catches half the passes that come his way.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 6:51 PM |

Them trio of 2nd rounder picks that Vinny blew on receivers in the 2008 draft has turned out to be a disaster:

Kelly = permanently injured
Thomas = released by both the bottom-dwelling Skins and Pants this year
Davis = only half an ass

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

The guy played half a season!? Maybe, we should stop sucking each others Dix

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 13, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

The guy played half a season!? Maybe, we should stop sucking each others Dix

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 13, 2010 7:28 PM |

Ft Dix = where the enlisted dudes with long schlongs get posted.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

He's a half ass player. He half asses route running, run/pass blocking, and his worthless ass only catches half the passes that come his way


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010

Typical response from you. Your description sounds a lot lot Cooley. Davis will get his opportunity next year when Cooley is traded for a 3rd round pick.

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Typical response from you. Your description sounds a lot lot Cooley. Davis will get his opportunity next year when Cooley is traded for a 3rd round pick.

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 7:36 PM

If by typical then you mean astute, then Thanks.

Sorry dude, I don't develop man crushes on the players of my beloved team. This allows me to be objective and call it exactly as I see it.

Cooley isn't being traded and his value is to this team is worth more than he would net in a trade (3rd-4th).

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Landry tackled poorly, often seemed lost in coverage and was not a playmaker, partly by design, as a free safety in former defensive coordinator Greg Blache's 4-3 scheme. But Landry found himself again in Jim Haslett's aggressive 3-4 defense.

Them amoebae were snarling like Rottweilers when the Skins were smoked by the Eagles 3 wks ago, weren't they!

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

last year 4-12, this year 7-9. cowgirls-redskins 17-20

Posted by: toni17 | December 13, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

The irony is that while Landry found himself this year, the rest of the defense can be found on milk cartons

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 13, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

last year 4-12, this year 7-9. cowgirls-redskins 17-20

Posted by: toni17 | December 13, 2010 7:45 PM |

Dallas' D blows, don't it? Last yrs' studs like Rat and Ware have turned into duds. DJax feasted on their Swiss cheese secondary last night didn't he? Average of 50+ yds per reception is unreal. The announcer even gave the Skins a plug. He said that their DBs know exactly how the Dallas DBs feel after DJax whizzed past them for his game-winning TD and choreographed goal line crossing.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse


ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, as always, brought to you by Yahoo!’s finest

I wasn’t the only one who watched as Ryan Torain gashed the Bucs ‘D’ and wondered, “what innovative way will we find to help us lose this week?”

Fittingly, we have our second signature moment of 2010 (Albert laying on the ground is the signature moment of the Fat Albert ‘era’). Like the ‘09 swinging gate, it came on a kick attempt. In 2010, it is a missed XP. Bad thing to channel your inner tony romo.

Finding new ways to lose is not the sort of innovation I expect from a veteran team.

It is easy to pin this on Gano and even easier to pin it on the special teams as a whole. The Redskins had their best run game in ages, their best 2 minute drive in years (effectively using all 5 downs) and one of their best defensive halves of football … and still couldn’t win.

Our leaders stood out. There was Fletcher, getting bulled over at the goal line on the 2 point conversion and dropping an INT. There was McNabb throwing the ball poorly at times, fortunate to avoid multiple picks (1 would have been a pick 6). His final pass of the first half, had it been complete, would have cost us a FG (in bounds with not enough time to get the FG unit on). There was Shanahan, looking like an amateur managing the clock, throwing the challenge flag and (again) fielding an offense that came out flat after halftime.

Simply put, the guys that everyone depends on to lead weren’t dependable. I’ve come to expect DeAngelo Hall to give and take. For Reed Doughty to make a play and miss a play. For Moss to make a sweet catch, then drop an easy one. But I expect more from our leaders.

There is every reason to question these 3. I think the world of Fletcher. He has had his moments, but fewer this year than before. Perhaps as important, his leadership hasn’t been enough of an asset to lift this defense, especially in the clutch. McNabb came to DC with leadership written all over him. On Sunday, his leadership seemed absent until the final drive. He made plenty of mistakes, few of which TB capitalized on. On Shanahan, what can I say? I was on very board with him coming here to be HC, not so on his exec roles. But I can’t say much good about his game management. He looks less interested than he was in Denver, and I’ll begin the speculation that he may not be our coach next season. Not that Danny will fire him, but that Shanahan will realize that he no longer has that fire needed to be a HC.

Yes, the loss to TB was a tortuous way to lose a game and I’m not a fan of the silver lining that it helps our 2011 draft position. It is time to look at our leaders and ask the hard questions. Because during a season that has gone south with 5 losses in 6 games (the lone win over a Rusty Smith-led team), no one deserves to escape the spotlight’s harsh glare.

And that’s it for this week of ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, again brought to you by the fine people at Yahoo!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 13, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

The irony is that while Landry found himself this year, the rest of the defense can be found on milk cartons

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 13, 2010 7:53 PM |

Fat-free or 1%?

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

You can't turn over the entire team, but there are only six players on this team I would build with:

Trent Williams- bookend left/right tackle
Brian Orakpo- beast of a pass rusher
Brandon Banks- is a threat to score every time he touches the ball
Laron Landry- solid SS at the prime of his career
Lorenzo Alexander- versatile, all around player, workhorse.
Anthony Armstrong- nice, speedy, depth receiver.

...the rest are some sh*t

Posted by: rickyroge | December 13, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Sorry dude, I don't develop man crushes on the players of my beloved team. This allows me to be objective and call it exactly as I see it.


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010

No brah, you just developed a man crush on Shanny and co. You can't admit that Shanny looks Zornesque with the clock management, playcalling, etc. I like Shanny and believes that he will eventually get our beloved team back to respectability, but I call it like it is.

He's made many mistakes that a guy with his pedigree shouldn't. That's something you can't admit. His draft, outside of TW, was poor. And no, I haven't forgotten the FA signing of Banks.

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

... brought to you by the fine people at Yahoo!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 13, 2010 8:02 PM |

Yahoo! stock price in 2008 = $30/shr
Yahoo! stock price now = $15/shr

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

... brought to you by the fine people at Yahoo!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 13, 2010 8:02 PM |

Yahoo! stock price in 2008 = $30/shr
Yahoo! stock price now = $15/shr

Posted by: EncinoMan

Tell me about it ... plus the CEO pay is off the charts

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 13, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

dcwun-

5 YRs is 80 games. We've seen 13 and while it doesn't look good, I would say give it to year 3.

It's no exaggeration to say that this is the least talented roster in the league and with few draft choices (partly because of the terrible decision to trade for #5) and last YRs horrible FA class, there was little he could have done to improve.

This going to be a pivotal offseason with a really good FA class and two picks in the top 40. This will be a better team next YR with or without McNabb. By Year three we should finally have the horses to compete.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

His draft, outside of TW, was poor. And no, I haven't forgotten the FA signing of Banks.

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 8:20 PM |

Plus I wouldn't have wasted no draft picks on an aging QB like McSaab. The Eegs got themselves a nice little FS in Nate Allen with that 2nd rounder that MS coughed up for McSaab, with another pick due at the end of the season.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

His draft, outside of TW, was poor. And no, I haven't forgotten the FA signing of Banks.

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 8:20 PM |

Plus I wouldn't have wasted no draft picks on an aging QB like McSaab. The Eegs got themselves a nice little FS in Nate Allen with that 2nd rounder that MS coughed up for McSaab, with another pick due at the end of the season.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan Trails Off During Speech About Turning Franchise Around

"Shanahan, who started and stopped his speech several times and at one point actually stood up as if to leave before seeming to notice his players arranged around him listening. "What I'm trying to say is, we're just a few games from turning. From turning this thing over, I mean. No, around. Turning it back? Well, anyway, I'm gonna go." Shanahan then told his players that his door was always open before retiring to his office and shutting the door."


http://www.theonion.com/articles/mike-shanahan-trails-off-during-speech-about-turni,18649/

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 13, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

He looks less interested than he was in Denver, and I’ll begin the speculation that he may not be our coach next season. Not that Danny will fire him, but that Shanahan will realize that he no longer has that fire needed to be a HC.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 13, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

It is incomprehensible to me that Shanahan would quit after one year here.

Posted by: Pepper5 | December 13, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

How was the draft outside of TW poor? They had no 2nd (you can agree or disagree on whether this was wasted) or 3rd (Jarmon). The 4th was used for the LB Riley who has shown some potential (block in back rookie mistake). In later rounds they picked up Austin (some potential), Cook (now on active roster) and Capers (PS). Considering what they had to work with, they may have some players with potential.

Posted by: lifelongfan | December 13, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lifelongfan | December 13, 2010 8:56 PM

You make excellent points but you have to remember who's complaining about Shanahan after 13 games and the draft that we also added Carriker and RT Jamal Brown.

Those people are the same that defend the 2008 draft class.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

The Hyundai chick is hot? Really?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 13, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

How was the draft outside of TW poor? They had no 2nd (you can agree or disagree on whether this was wasted) or 3rd (Jarmon). The 4th was used for the LB Riley who has shown some potential (block in back rookie mistake). In later rounds they picked up Austin (some potential), Cook (now on active roster) and Capers (PS). Considering what they had to work with, they may have some players with potential.

Posted by: lifelongfan | December 13, 2010

I would say a draft with 1 player making a contribution is poor. Riley, as a 4th round pick should be getting some plays. The only thing we remember him for is the block in the back. Time will tell with the O-lineman.

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Oh get real!

How idiotic is this? Anyone who defends Mike Shanallen is nuttier than a squirrel turd.

Posted by: Risa_L | December 13, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Whereas your posts are winner talk? You used to bring something to this blog. Now you got nothing -- as whiney as Rachel and as negative as pabrian2003.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 13, 2010 11:20 AM

How comes I gets no love?

Posted by: pabrian2008 | December 13, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

BeantownGrag is right...how come...Mike and Kyle don't make any...adjustments during the game...?

Posted by: pabrian2008 | December 13, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

The Hyundai chick is hot? Really?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 13, 2010 9:06 PM

It must when they first show her and she has her hands on legs in some Subliminal manner..

Here's the commercial. And to answer the question, Yes I would hit it and No she's not hot.

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=23275117&pg=1

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

You make excellent points but you have to remember who's complaining about Shanahan after 13 games and the draft that we also added Carriker and RT Jamal Brown.

Those people are the same that defend the 2008 draft class.


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010

I do believe Brown will be better next year. You make Carriker seem like some great steal. He's done nothing. He was a bust in St. Louis and I would put him on the same level as Golsten.

As far as complaining after 13 games, please. Just calling it like it is......

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

If Mike Shanazorn were smart he would completely cater his defence to suit Albert Haynesworths wishes. That's what all the good teams do...fit thier scheme to the most talented player on the defence...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | December 13, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

... we also added Carriker and RT Jamal Brown.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 9:04 PM |

When the Saints practically gave Brown to the Skins they knew that they wasn't giving away no gem. As for Carky, the Skins DL is by far the worst 3-4 DL in the league.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

As far as complaining after 13 games, please. Just calling it like it is......

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 9:21 PM

Then that's the problem and you are no different than Danny Snyder has been for the last 11 YRs. There is no quick fix, It's going to take more than 11 months to fix the last 11 YRs.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

dcwun is right...when you have a leaky faucet...you don't wait for it to become a geyser...you fix it before it gets out of hand...the warning signs and red flags are everywhere...you can't miss it...fire...shanaKLAN...before it's too late...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | December 13, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

... fit thier scheme to the most talented player on the defence...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | December 13, 2010 9:23 PM |

Bloody well put old sock old bean.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I would say a draft with 1 player making a contribution is poor. Riley, as a 4th round pick should be getting some plays. The only thing we remember him for is the block in the back. Time will tell with the O-lineman.

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse\

Dude, you're starting to follow your own negative bias.

Does this mean that we're judging the '10 draft after one year? Crazy.

And do we count undrafted free agents as part of the draft?

Why don't we count all rookie contributions, shall we? It's only fair; the inverse has been true when talking about the infamous '08 misses including D.Jack when grading the '08 draft. I'm sure there were rookies we could have had that year that have made contributions for other teams.

Banks, Armstrong, K. Williams, Trent Williams, Perry Riley, Darrel Young, Logan Paulsen, and Anderson Russell (IR). Did I miss anyone?

That's 8 rookie contributions (okay, seven are solid with one could have been). I don't know how many of these guys will be here in future seasons, but if you insist on grading the most recent draft now…

6 out of 8 of these guys could be pretty solid IMO in future years.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 13, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I disagree, I would say that a draft with a 1st round pick that started from day one, a 4th round pick playing on teams, and 3 7th round picks is an OK draft with the potential to be good if Riley and one of the other three become starters.

Posted by: lifelongfan | December 13, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 13,

Look, nobody's negative, I'm just calling it like I see it. If you read what I said I did give him props for the FAs.

As for how many will be here in the future, you could safely say 4 will be here.

As far as the D Jack miss, every single blogga, yes me too, wanted a big WR target. That one stings.....

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

When the Saints practically gave Brown to the Skins they knew that they wasn't giving away no gem. As for Carky, the Skins DL is by far the worst 3-4 DL in the league.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 9:25 PM

Brown was a 2x pro bowler that the picked up for a 3rd RD pick. He's been hindered by his hip and is starting to come around. Next YR he'll be a very solid RT.

Carriker was given away and we got a depth guy for next to nothing. He should be coming off the bench but has been better than Golston.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Washington...Redskins and Minnesota Vikings complete trade for HOF Quarterbacks...

PFT
By Mike Florio
December 13, 2010, 9:27 PM EST

Signs point towards Favre being traded to the Washington Redskins for Donovan McNabb and a 2011 2nd round pick after his season is shut down for the season.

Posted by: pabrian2008 | December 13, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Or how about the royal screwup by Gibbs 2.0 when he chose Arrington over Bailey? ugh \

Gibbs 2.0 = hater

Posted by: pabrian2008 | December 13, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Carriker was given away and we got a depth guy for next to nothing. He should be coming off the bench but has been better than Golston.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010

HA! Neither of them have done a thing. Anthony Bryant has barely played and looked better than both of them.

On another note, Is this the worst Skins rushing D (stats based) in the last 20 years? Do your thing bloggas......

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Anthony Dixon was a good draft pick for the Eagles. Their scouts are so much better than ours.

Posted by: pabrian2008 | December 13, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

HA! Neither of them have done a thing. Anthony Bryant has barely played and looked better than both of them.

On another note, Is this the worst Skins rushing D (stats based) in the last 20 years? Do your thing bloggas......

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 10:01 PM

I don't know if I'm wasting my time with you or what but it's tough to fill out a 53 man roster. Brown for a 3rd will pay dividends next YR. Carriker who was given to us will be a good guy off the bench.

If you've been paying attention then you would already know that I've posted at least 100x that you can't win with the worst OL/DL in the league. I've also said that Bryant who was solid in the preseason should have been playing since week one.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Brown was a 2x pro bowler that the picked up for a 3rd RD pick. He's been hindered by his hip and is starting to come around. Next YR he'll be a very solid RT.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 9:52 PM |

As a fan I hope that happens. But as a realist I ain't counting on it. Hip injuries are serious business for OTs. They have to be able to swivel on a dime to get between them speed rushers and the QB, something Brown has struggled a lot with this season.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 13, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Or how about the royal screwup by Gibbs 2.0 when he chose Arrington over Bailey? ugh \

Gibbs 2.0 = hater

Posted by: pabrian2008 | December 13, 2010

Easy Pabrian. Nobody talks about St. Joe.

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if I'm wasting my time with you or what but it's tough to fill out a 53 man roster. Brown for a 3rd will pay dividends next YR. Carriker who was given to us will be a good guy off the bench.

If you've been paying attention then you would already know that I've posted at least 100x that you can't win with the worst OL/DL in the league. I've also said that Bryant who was solid in the preseason should have been playing since week one.


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010

Diesel, pay attention, I said exactly what you did about Brown. Will never be sold on Carriker but he might be effective off of the bench. Answer this for me. Cornie Griffin or Vonnie Holliday?

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

gotta say, they gave out free tix to the Vikes-jints game -- won't blame people if they claim they were ripped off. That was ugly

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 13, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

pabrain2008-

What you're doing shows that you have a reasonable football IQ.

The jokes/trolling about Dixon, Arrington/Bailey, and mocking pabrain2003. You should just go back to your original handle that rhymes with diarrhea met and contribute.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

why is everyone angry about losing last sunday? how would losing the remaining games help/ change the draft order for us?

Posted by: Skins2 | December 13, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Answer this for me. Cornie Griffin or Vonnie Holliday?

Posted by: dcwun | December 13, 2010 10:23 PM

Is this a rhetorical question? Griffin is out of the league and Holliday is a player rep, great locker room guy, and a solid 1 YR cheap stop gap.

We all wish the team was younger and more talented. It will get there but you can thank the previous regime for the cupboard being so bare.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse


We all wish the team was younger and more talented. It will get there but you can thank the previous regime for the cupboard being so bare.


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 10:34 PM |
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and the new FO making the same mistakes I might add

same as it ever was, same as it ever was

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

We all wish the team was younger and more talented. It will get there but you can thank the previous regime for the cupboard being so bare.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 13, 2010 10:34 PM

Agreed. Let's give this FO a full/regular offseason to acquire players shall we. If Cook shows the improvements he made this past preseason, next year, he could very well be the starter at LG, and when Rocky is let go, Riley could very well be the guy that fills his spot. Most of this rookie class has been redshirted, we'll find out how good this coaching staff is next year.

Posted by: TWISI | December 13, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Reluctant to respond to Pabrian 2008 because I don't know if he is being sarcastic. But if he is not I wanted to point out that Dixon was initially signed as an undrafted free agent by Washington, cut in Sep (was to be placed on practice squad) and then claimed by Eagles. Redskins scouts are fine, it was the coaches (Zorn/Blache) and/or Vinny who dropped the ball.

Posted by: lifelongfan | December 13, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse


@TWISI

with all due respect twisi, one must lump together a decade of the same thing you watched this past sunday and come to the conclusion that this will never end until...

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Which one of Harbaugh's players is giving him a haircut?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 13, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Tarvaris Jackson reminds Vikings they need to start over at quarterback

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 13, 2010, 10:40 PM EST


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There you go, a place to send DM5 to for a 3rd round pick in '11.


Diesel, not on vacation, just getting over the smashed fingers that was my punishment for responding to the 2003 version of pabrain.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 13, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

230 pounds of man-child. Texans/Ravens=barf

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 13, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

@TWISI

with all due respect twisi, one must lump together a decade of the same thing you watched this past sunday and come to the conclusion that this will never end until...

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 10:59 PM

I'll give this FO two more offseasons before I'll judge what they do. It's a rebuild, even if it hasn't been said. The rebuild has started to slowly happen as the season progressed.

Posted by: TWISI | December 13, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Well at least the Redskins aren't the only team to get caught by the Texans.

Posted by: TWISI | December 13, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Next season cannot be bad in the way this season has been bad, or Shanahan will be gone. Snyder wouldn't tolerate it.

In my opinion, this team will need to be competitive, not embarrassing to watch, and not eliminated with three games to play, or Shanny won't get a third season.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 13, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Well at least the Redskins aren't the only team to get caught by the Texans.

Posted by: TWISI | December 13, 2010 11:50 PM

And the best D in the last 10 Yrs has given up drives of 99 and 95 Yds as well as a 2 PT conversion...

But that great D gets a walk off TD by former Terp Josh Wilson.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 14, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

In my opinion, this team will need to be competitive, not embarrassing to watch, and not eliminated with three games to play, or Shanny won't get a third season.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 13, 2010 11:53 PM

If the team plays young guys (rookies, 1st time starters) at critical spots (Ol, DL, WR, and maybe QB), they will be prone to embarrassing play. Hopefully they will improve over the course of the season. Hopefully Shanny and his staff will get that time to develop this roster.

Posted by: TWISI | December 14, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

In my opinion, this team will need to be competitive, not embarrassing to watch, and not eliminated with three games to play, or Shanny won't get a third season.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 13, 2010 11:53 PM

If the team plays young guys (rookies, 1st time starters) at critical spots (Ol, DL, WR, and maybe QB), they will be prone to embarrassing play. Hopefully they will improve over the course of the season. Hopefully Shanny and his staff will get that time to develop this roster.

Posted by: TWISI

should have done that this year ... they didn't

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 14, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

What is lost on a lot of posters about this year is that the only people who thought there was a shot in hell for the playoffs are the the players (hopefully) and a few poor slabs on this board.

Meanwhile, MS, BA and DS knew this year was a wash and hoped to get the best out of it. In the mean time, the FO has used the uncapped year to get us out of a horrendous cap situation and set a foundation for a better team in the future.

When the dust settles, we will have a whole lot more financial flexibility to selectively shop a robust FA market and we'll have a better draft situation that has been typical. We are a year or two away, but I see hope even if we have had to endure some comical events this season.

HTTR

Posted by: TheDirtySanchez | December 14, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Good grief, I'm already feeling heartburn at the thought of the Cowboys scoring a bunch of touchdowns... while we're unable to score touchdowns ourselves. Leading to a large discrepancy in the score, if you know what I mean.

Ugh.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 14, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

We’re getting younger by attrition.

Posted by: fat_back | December 14, 2010 5:32 AM | Report abuse

Follow the leader to the new post. Follow

beep-beep

Posted by: beep-beep | December 14, 2010 6:29 AM | Report abuse

I am sure all of our injured players will be 100% healthy during the off season.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 14, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

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