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Redskins cut running back Larry Johnson

Updated: 6:38 p.m.

The Redskins cut veteran running back Larry Johnson Tuesday, making him the first casualty of a ground game that has been among the NFL's worst through the first two weeks of the season. Johnson's agent, Peter Schaffer, and the team confirmed the move.

According to two sources familiar with the situation, the team immediately replaced Johnson with Chad Simpson, a third-year player out of Morgan State who spent two years with Indianapolis and was with Buffalo during the preseason.

Johnson, 30, who played for La Plata High School, was signed as a free agent in the offseason and came to camp to compete with incumbent starter Clinton Portis as well as veteran free agent Willie Parker - who was cut before camp - as well as younger backs Keiland Williams and Ryan Torain. Johnson was largely unproductive in the preseason, but made the team anyway. He contributed little in the Redskins' first two games.

Johnson ran five times for two yards in the first-week win over Dallas and Sunday's overtime loss to Houston. That included a 10-yard loss in the fourth quarter of the Texans' game.

Redskins General Manager Bruce Allen, in a news release announcing the move, offered little explanation.

"We appreciate Larry's attitude and contributions to the Redskins," Allen said. "However, we needed to make a roster move in preparation for this week's game against the Rams."

Schaffer said that "we were caught completely off guard by it. It was not something that we were expecting. I was told, by the Redskins, that this was a short-term situation brought on by the need to have a special teams running back, that they cannot afford the luxury of two starting running backs for this week."

Asked whether the Redskins plan to re-sign Johnson after this week, Schaffer said, "I don't know. There are no guarantees about anything in this league."

Johnson did everything that the coaching staff asked of him, several people familiar with the situation said. He was a good teammate, Redskins players said, and remained upbeat despite having a limited role through the first two games.

Schaffer said he plans to seek employment for Johnson. "Larry feels he's in great shape and has a lot to offer to teams, and as I told the Redskins, it's my job to try to find Larry the best possible situation. His preference would have been to play for the Redskins for the remainder of his career. But given the fact right now that he's unemployed, we're going to look at every other alternative that's out there and try to find a great situation for him."

Simpson, 25, had 30 rushing attempts for 147 yards and three touchdowns in 25 games for the Colts in 2008 and '09.

The Redskins managed 18 yards rushing against Houston and are averaging 53.5 yards per game running the ball. That ranks them 31st in the league. Their average of 2.7 yards per carry is 30th in the NFL.

By Barry Svrluga and Jason Reid  | September 21, 2010; 5:45 PM ET
Categories:  Larry Johnson, Running backs  
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Simpson 30, oh he's young. MorgAn state, powerhouse. Good job in training camp coaches!

Who thought LJ was going to beat out Portis? Your geniuses!

Chad Simpson= super bowl dynasty

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

First in the NFC EAST!

Posted by: Skew | September 21, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

First in the NFC EAST!

Posted by: Skew | September 21, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

First in the NFC EAST!

Posted by: Skew | September 21, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Which will be Larry Johnson's next team? We should have traded him to the Broncos. Worst part of it is we're on the hook for Johnson's salary this year.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 21, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Good riddance. That -10 yard retreat was a momentum swing for the Texans.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | September 21, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

pabrian = Vinny Cerrato

Posted by: CPortisRun | September 21, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey pabrian, Simpson is 25. You can hate on the redskins all you want but atleast have the correct information when you are doing so

Posted by: SkinsRealist1 | September 21, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

@pabrian

At least you are consistent...never letting the facts get in the way of your arguments. Dude is 25 not 30.

And congrats to the staff for cutting bait and moving on if that is what they are doing.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | September 21, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Which will be Larry Johnson's next team? We should have traded him to the Broncos. Worst part of it is we're on the hook for Johnson's salary this year.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 21, 2010 5:58 PM

Good news is it is not much money. Johnson served his purpose which was to light a fire under CP. Granted, that has not translated to "on field" success, but at least CP's attitude and work ethic have improved.

Posted by: HokiesSkins | September 21, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

He is a scat back kinda guy who also returns punts and kicks. He is a versatile player, the likes a larry johnson were never needed.

Posted by: SkinsRealist1 | September 21, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

La Plata sucks. Go Calvert Cavaliers!!!!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 21, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Which will be Larry Johnson's next team? We should have traded him to the Broncos. Worst part of it is we're on the hook for Johnson's salary this year.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 21, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about his salary? big deal.

Posted by: jmy999 | September 21, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow...didn't see this coming. Shoulda come before the season (and that idiotic -10 yard carry), but kudos to the Skins for swapping out an old, washed up RB for a young blood with some upside.

I gotta wonder though...why not just bring Ryan Torain up from the practice squad? Curious decision to go with someone new altogether when you have a guy you're high about already in the building...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 21, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

SWEDISH FOOTBALLER DENIES TRADE RUMORS

STOCKHOLM -- Swedish Premier League striker Hamm Samvitch is vehemently denying rumors that he is part of an international player trade deal that is also said to involve disgruntled Washington Redskins defensiver lineman Albert Haynesworth.

"First, I have no interest in leaving the Stockholm Stompers," explained the international forward who also plays for the Swiss National Team. "I enjoy it here, this is my home, and I believe that I still have much to contribute to our team, its fans, and our nation at large."

He continued, "But perhaps even more important, and especially when you consider all that we know and believe about Herr Worthless -- we simply have no interest whatsoever if ever seeing such an overpaid waste of roster spot anywhere near our football grounds, our city, or for that matter anywhere else within our national borders."

Samvitch concluded, "While we Swiss have long prided ourselves on maintaining our neutrality in the midst of any number of international disputes, and letting common sense rule the day -- we just couldn't stand by any longer and let the reputation of our proud football club, and indeed international standing of our nation, continue to suffer from this errant misassociation with Herr Worthless."

Posted by: Vic1 | September 21, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Oh he's 25, my bad, there goes the super bowl dynasty. Still, good job in training camp upgrading the team.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

"...as well as veteran free agent Willie Parker - who was cut before camp..."

Um, in a word, "no."

Willie played in several pre-season games. Cut before camp? Please. Can we get a professional in here to do the blogging? Please?

Posted by: fred_p_harris | September 21, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Skins had no choice- no run game does not a winner make in the NFC East..I'm starting to worry if Clinton is going to get his 800 yds to break Riggo's rushing record..Can just see him trudging across the tundra week 16, staggering , falling head first into the snow, a coupla yards shy of the record..

Posted by: frak | September 21, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

So if LJ is that bad are the coaches idiots or is it Danny again.

Call me cerrato while you bank on Kareem Moore

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Was never on the LJ bandwagon. Didn't like the move from minute 1.

I'm surprised Shanny made the move now, but it was the right thing to do.

As I mentioned in this week's ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, Shanahan is a cutthroat sort. If you don't bring something to the table, you won't be here. LJ brought nothing, but he does leave with nice parting gift$$$

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 21, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

The Simpson seems to be purely a special teams acquisition/emergency RB, rather than a "young guy with potential". what this really means (besides the fact that Larry Johnson is completely washed up)is that the team is ready to go with Keiland Williams as the primary backup. There's your young up and comer...

Posted by: Jason10 | September 21, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Frak, tell that to the New Soup Eagles Who've dominated the division for a decade while passing more than anyone in the league ever.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

You can't be stupid and run backwards 10 yards WTF....You've been around too long not to know better. You were a great running back but I think its time to do something else.

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | September 21, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about his salary? big deal.

Posted by: jmy999 | September 21, 2010 6:08 PM

You work for the government, don't you? "Who cares about the money? It's not coming out of my pocket."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 21, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Larry Johnson, this re-post is for you:

Rebuilding?

This 'rebuilding' you speak of, who says the redskins are doing it?

Shanallen is building on the fly by putting in new schemes, and casting players for fulltime performance next year.

If the old Larry Johnson back can't make the cut, K Williams will.

If A Carter can't cover in space, someone else will.

If AH won't go along to get along, mid round picks for him will.

If the hefty left guard can't reach block, Kory L will.

If C Rabach can't get a push at center, M Pouncey (UF) might.

If F Davis continues to play strong and dumb, someone mid round traded for pick will be wearing 86 next Fall.

We are not rebuilding in the old school sense of tearing the team down to rebuild it.

But we are giving a lot of peeps time to see if they want to be here next year.

'Cuz that's when what's been thrown together will fit just right.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 21, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Yeah it's coming out of Danny-Boy's pocket.

He'll just charge an extra couple of cents on some Johnny Rockets milkshakes to make up the difference.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 21, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh LOL I laughed when I saw this, exactly what should have happened after that turd LJ laid. he is slow and has no moves left. gone. I'm so glad pros are running this team now. this was a SendAMessage move with a borderline guy. perform or leave. I love it. love it. love it.

they said they were addressing the running game and boy did they LOL

Posted by: greatteamdan | September 21, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Vick named the starter in Philly...I'm suddenly a lot more worried about our matchup with them next week...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 21, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Right thing to do would be get your depth chart set before the season starts.

Zorn-ahan

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Vick named starter in Philly...WOW...

So glad we got Dmac....No way Iggles do that if they could have a mulligan.


Posted by: WaitingGuilty | September 21, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I gotta wonder though...why not just bring Ryan Torain up from the practice squad? Curious decision to go with someone new altogether when you have a guy you're high about already in the building...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 21, 2010 6:08 PM

Doesn't this question answer itself? Isn't it obvious that he hasn't met the expectations they had for him?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 21, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Kevin Faulk is out in NE. Johnson might not be unemployed for long.

Posted by: unquiltom | September 21, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

"Johnson, 30, who played for La Plata High School, was signed as a free agent in the offseason and came to..."
Reid and svrlaga

he's 25 you jerks. Hahahahahahahaha right everyone attaaaaaaaaack!!!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

You were a great running back but I think its time to do something else.

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | September 21, 2010 6:21 PM


It's the "something else" he comes up with that should worry whatever community he calls home...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 21, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

So training camp was purely to feud with haynesworth...brilliant!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

When the color commentator on TV says that your running move backwards "might work in Pop Warner but not in the NFL", and you lose 10 yards to stall the drive and are removed from the game, you might take that as a hint.

Posted by: dcc1968 | September 21, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Simpson 30, oh he's young. MorgAn state, powerhouse. Good job in training camp coaches!

Who thought LJ was going to beat out Portis? Your geniuses!

Chad Simpson= super bowl dynasty

Posted by: pabrian2003

Peabrain can't even quote himself correctly. Go back to what ever team forum you came from so IQ level here can go back to normal.

Posted by: unquiltom | September 21, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

"Frak, tell that to the New Soup Eagles Who've dominated the division for a decade while passing more than anyone in the league ever.

Posted by: pabrian2003"

Yeah, well, at least Old Hyattsville Westbrook was almost always in the top ten in rushing , pre-brain smoothie...

Posted by: frak | September 21, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

And if mcnabb can't get it done Rex grossman baby

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Vick named the starter in Philly...I'm suddenly a lot more worried about our matchup with them next week...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 21, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

_____________________________

I fully expect them to beat the Jags & the debate will begin... For the 'Skins, this could be a good thing, 'cause if Kolb played this week & stunk it up, Vick goes right back in starting against the Skins... but next week, if Kolb is ready, this is going to be an issue leading up to the game & Reid is hard headed enough to put Kolb back in charge... That could bode real good for the Skins.

I don't see Andy Reid scrapping his plan & going with Vick, when Kolb is the reason they traded Donovan McNabb.

Posted by: tony325 | September 21, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Torain?

Posted by: skinswest | September 21, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

To the idiots complaining about his salary: LJ's deal was dirt cheap and incentive laden. It's certainly worth the minimal--at best--hit than keeping a guy who was outrushed by Matt Turk last week.

Posted by: redskins459 | September 21, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, Redskins General Manager Bruce Allen is said to be growing increasing frustrated over his continuing failure to generate even a modest return on teams's investment in disgruntled defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth.

In a rare display of profanity, Allen reportedly told a close confidant, "Hell, we couldn't even trade him for a Hamm Samvitch."


Posted by: Vic1 | September 21, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Vick named the starter in Philly...I'm suddenly a lot more worried about our matchup with them next week...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 21, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

________________________________


This is a good thing... If Kolb is healthy next week... there is going to be a QB controversy created by the media leading up to the game, unless Reid gives in. Do you think Reid will go with Vick? I think he is too hard headed & will stick with the plan & play Kolb. Even Vick is stating that this is Kolb's team & he is auditioning for starting role next year.

Posted by: tony325 | September 21, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

"Johnson, 30, who played for La Plata High School, was signed as a free agent in the offseason and came to..."
Reid and svrlaga

he's 25 you jerks. Hahahahahahahaha right everyone attaaaaaaaaack!!!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Your dogging me but your savior should have got some backs in camp, he's desperate in week 3.

Which do u like better zorn-ahan or Shan-aZorn

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I smell a deal shipping dt11 "somewhere". Why do they need a returner all of a sudden? I will take a bow for calling LJs ouster.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 21, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I smell a deal shipping dt11 "somewhere". Why do they need a returner all of a sudden? I will take a bow for calling LJs ouster.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 21, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Tony...

This looks by all accounts like Vick is the starter...not because Kolb is not healthy, but due to on field performance. Kolb was cleared Saturday to play according to various sources.

This could, obviously, go either way for Philly. I can guarantee you however, that their "Plan" has been effectively blown up.

This is not how you want to bring your young QB of the future up. Now it appears...APPEARS....that Kolb is right back where he was 12 months ago...AND WE GOT MCNABB!

Yes please....let chaos reign in the city of brotherly love.

Pabrian undoubtedly thinks Reid is a genius.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | September 21, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Pabrian..... Stay predictable. Its what you do.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 21, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Pabrian..... Stay predictable. Its what you do.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 21, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Someone may be having another "heavy flow" day

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 21, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Dt traded to chargers with a pic of VJ83....

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

"Call me cerrato while you bank on Kareem Moore"

How about we just call you a loser and laugh at you while we're in the playoffs and your team finishes last in the division? What kind of dreg sits around all day hitting refresh on another team's message board just to be the first to post a comment? Wow, I know it's going to be a rough season in PA this year, but after it's over you can go back to all the incest and everything else that consumes your offseason up there.

Posted by: CPortisRun | September 21, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

wonder if Shanny got beat out on the guy philly grabbed.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 21, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

So, let me get this straight; an Eagle fan rips us for not determining Larry Johnson was not a good enough backup RB in training camp and then cutting him after week 2? Is this not the same team that traded their franchise longtime star QB within the division for what ended up being a safety with a 3rd round grade, all in the name of another QB they swore was the answer, only to bail on him after 1 HALF of 1 game? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Posted by: CPortisRun | September 21, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Everydays a heavy day when it comes to poopy.....

Damn ibs....

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Skins fan is a HO

ok

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

"Johnson, 30, who played for La Plata High School, was signed as a free agent in the offseason and came to..."
Reid and svrlaga

he's 25 you jerks. Hahahahahahahaha right everyone attaaaaaaaaack!!!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 6:30 PM

WOW you really are retarded. Read what you just posted. He's talking about Larry Johnson you moron. LJ is 30. Chad Simpson is 25. Can't really even read can you Pa Brian?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Skins fan is a HO

ok

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

LJ has issues coming off the bench and being productive. Hopefully Williams can be more productive in the 2nd back role. As for Simpson, he has speed, and agility that the backfield lacks. I hope he can find a role similar to what Slaton does with Houston,i.e. as a receiver out the backfield that can take it to the house at anytime.

Posted by: TWISI | September 21, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Suzy Kolber has been named to the Iggles PS.

Posted by: jnsbear | September 21, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

The beagles look dumber now

Vick starting, they never planned on that...

I bet they want him to start so they can trade him...

Vick to buffalo, that's how I see it....

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Pabrian undoubtedly thinks Reid is a genius.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | September 21, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

j Reid? Yes he is. Andy reid wanted to keep mcNabb, the GM didn't. This is the type of thing that gets put out without back up.

Pay attention.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, we're leading the division, still have our #1 QB as the unquestioned, healthy starter, already beaten Dallas, and WE are the desperate team. Crack must be cheap up in PA right now.

Posted by: CPortisRun | September 21, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Corn on the kolb is gonna b the butt of every eagles joke......

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Right johnsons 30 an that other dud is 25, so I'm retarded. But so is anyone who is slurping shanazorn's cool aid.

All of training camp and they kept LJ and cried about hynesworth, that's retarded.

They couldn't figure out LJ was done?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Pabrian

Once rapelisberger comes back to town will you stop posting here??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Right johnsons 30 an that other dud is 25, so I'm retarded. But so is anyone who is slurping shanazorn's cool aid.

All of training camp and they kept LJ and cried about hynesworth, that's retarded.

They couldn't figure out LJ was done?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 7:14 PM |

You have no credibility on this blog anymore. Not that you had any to begin with. Zornahan? 2 seperate coaches completely unrelated. How have you managed to live this long being as absolutely braindead as you so obviously are?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

The 10 yards backwards was a killer, but that wasn't the play where it became obvious Larry is done as an NFL player. It was earlier in the game when he looked like he was running in a swimming pool trying to get around the right edge. Anyone who watched that run and has a football IQ knew right away that Larry is done. Quick is better than big in the zone running system -- let's see Torian again.

Posted by: boozyb | September 21, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Rams 17
Skins 27

We get 2 turnovers, one for a td

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Rams 17
Skins 27

We get 2 turnovers, one for a td

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

That -10 yd run got him cut...

The run that broke the camels back...

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

LJ sucked royaly, no surprise there.

I'm just surprised they didn't bring back Torian. I thought the kid looked good in pre-season.

In fact, I wanted them to keep him and dump LJ back then. Even Parker had more burst then LJ in the pre-season.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 21, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I propose a new RI rule that only fans of teams who have actually won ANYTHING in the last 50 years should be allowed to post. Clearly there is an outbreak of crazy somewhere in southeast PA.

Posted by: CPortisRun | September 21, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Pay attention.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

I'll try. And while I'm paying attention I'd like to offer to pay you a little something to take a permanent vacation from this blog.

Name your price.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | September 21, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Redskins cut running back Larry Johnson


Say what you will about Shanallen, they are turning the roster over like they was broke and looking for money players.

What I like about this is the signal that no position is safe, no player so favored he can't be sent packing.

Nothing motivates like the subtle hint of fear and possible immediate unemployment.

Johnson's cut will make guys play even harder.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 21, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I am glad the see the Skins cut someone not producing. Sends a message to everyone that no one is safe and everyone has to contribute.

Posted by: neil64 | September 21, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

What the heck is pabrian so angry about?

Is he really a Redskins fan?

If so, someone let him know the team is 1-1, with 14 games left in front of them.

Relax.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 21, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

LJ sucks sweaty, smelly, mis-shapen donkey nuts.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Moe

hey. Who can we bring in to light a fire under our WRs now??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Moe

hey. Who can we bring in to light a fire under our WRs now??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Pabrian you obviously have no life for you to spend so much time on a redskin blog. Either that or you are a closet redskin fan. But us true diehard redskin fans wouldn't let your dumbass be a redskin fan. Before you trash another team why don't you win a Superbowl first jackass. We will see you October 3rd when Mcnabb lights you guys up. Hail to the Redskins !!!

Posted by: sknsfn1027 | September 21, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

What the heck is pabrian so angry about?

Is he really a Redskins fan?

If so, someone let him know the team is 1-1, with 14 games left in front of them.

Relax.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 21, 2010 7:50 PM | Report

He's an Iggles fan.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

With the way many of the pre-season "sexy SB picks" are playing early this season in the NFC, now is the time to take advantage. I feel like the Favres and R(H)omos of the league are going to start to put it together late. I cannot see the skins taking the Rams, or anyone else lightly for a couple years. How does a 4-12 team look past anyone?

Skins big this weekend with the run game approaching 200 yards. CP seems to rack up yardage in the 4th quarter so stick with his jankey-spankey azz.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

pabrian! I have to hand it to you my good man. You are on a roll today. I've seen hatred for the Redskins before, but you do it with a certain style yet to be seen. I usually get the same old "deadskins" crap from bandwagon Cowboys fans. But wow, I am absolutely in awe of your stupidity. First you say "cool-aid junkie hater", only to follow it up by saying this Simpson dude is 30 years old. Then you call yourself retarded. The blog is better with you on it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 21, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

4 n 12 with no leader on offense

Mcnabb showed he can carry our team

we got a playmaker, for once

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 21, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I realized why there are so many Pittsburgh Steelers bars around the country.

...Everyone wants to get the f*ck out of Pittsburgh.

Have you ever flown over that town? you could film Mad Max there tomorrow.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Skins big this weekend with the run game approaching 200 yards. CP seems to rack up yardage in the 4th quarter so stick with his jankey-spankey azz.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I hope you are right. I think we win big, probably 34-13. I'd like to see the run game produce something,anything. But I have to admit that airshow last weekend was fun to watch.

If I was Sam Bradford, I'd be very scared right now.

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 21, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I liked this Simpson guy in preseason. If I'm correct, he got a nice run or two on us. He's shifty, quick (QUICK, for a change), not much power, but a big improvement over LJ.

I'm surprised he was on the street, really. From the little I've seen of him, he looked damn good.

Posted by: Double_Handle | September 21, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I may end up regretting this prediction but I think that by tomorrow afternoon, we will have traded Fat Albert for VJax.

I would have liked one of the "treatment" assistants to inject his ankle with a miniature, low impact explosive.

That way, during a key moment in a game against a team Hayneswort is playing for, a play is called directly at Haney and at the snap of the ball, a button is poushed and AH's Achille's tendon pops and rolls up the back of his leg like one of those old cheap spring-loaded shades.

Hey, a guy can dream...

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute.

Simpson?

Any relation?

To Chad OchoSimpson?

Posted by: Double_Handle | September 21, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Glad they've been reading my posts up here.

With LJ axed, I expect to see a much heavier dosage of Keiland Williams in the run game.

CP will still get the start and PT, particularly on 3rd downs because of his blocking, but the brass realizes this ground game is a total disaster - and it's not just the blocking.

Posted by: p1funk | September 21, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse


@iH8dallas

What's up Hess ? Still think that the CP halfback pass is a good option inside the red zone. Telling ya, he's 50% on those suckers and all his completions are TD's.


Posted by: hessone | September 21, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Should have made this move in training camp.

It was clear in the preseason that Johnson had lost at least a step. Always looked like he was running in mud at the snap.

Posted by: SteveMG | September 21, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

@iH8dallas

What's up Hess ? Still think that the CP halfback pass is a good option inside the red zone. Telling ya, he's 50% on those suckers and all his completions are TD's.


Posted by: hessone | September 21, 2010 8:13 PM |


Dude, you just hexed it.

Thanks a lot.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

And Torain? I gotta say, I saw nothing from his play in preseason. I was waiting, too, after all the hype. Dude is like an undersized Mike Sellers. And that aint saying much.

I think Simpson will be a nice change up. I hope they get him revved up by Sunday. I cant wait to see him get a couple touches.

If my memory serves, he can catch, too.

Posted by: Double_Handle | September 21, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, CP26 is reportedly going out of his way to assure anyone that'll listen that the Redskins would never treat HIM that way... as in, release him for failure to perform up to expectations or anything. Why CP's the gel that holds the locker together, a real Snyder family man, one of the u's most extinguished graduates, and all sorts of other horseshift.

Posted by: Vic1 | September 21, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

And Torain? I gotta say, I saw nothing from his play in preseason. I was waiting, too, after all the hype. Dude is like an undersized Mike Sellers. And that aint saying much.

I think Simpson will be a nice change up. I hope they get him revved up by Sunday. I cant wait to see him get a couple touches.

If my memory serves, he can catch, too.

Posted by: Double_Handle | September 21, 2010 8:16 PM |


pabrian is an undersized Brandon Banks.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

If you eliminate the posts of people arguing with pabrian, and pabrian arguing with himself, there really isn't that much going on up here.

Andy Reid will start Vick this week. Coach Tubby has two sons in jail. Do you really think he has any problem starting a dog killer?

Posted by: NYPDee | September 21, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse


pabrian is an undersized Brandon Banks.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Lol I bet 2003 was the year he was born. On another note, watching the cowboys meltdown to the bears.

Posted by: skinswillwin | September 21, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pabrian2003

It's a shame people can't be voted off this blog like those realty TV shows. This fool would certainly qualify as nobody wants him here.

I'm sure in real life nobody wants to be around him because he is so negative. That's why he spends so much time on this site so he can find people that will communicate with him.

Posted by: RedskinsNow | September 21, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

If you eliminate the posts of people arguing with pabrian, and pabrian arguing with himself, there really isn't that much going on up here.

Andy Reid will start Vick this week. Coach Tubby has two sons in jail. Do you really think he has any problem starting a dog killer?


Posted by: NYPDee | September 21, 2010 8:22 PM |


He has to. He has no one else to get him drugs now.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pabrian2003

It's a shame people can't be voted off this blog like those realty TV shows. This fool would certainly qualify as nobody wants him here.

I'm sure in real life nobody wants to be around him because he is so negative. That's why he spends so much time on this site so he can find people that will communicate with him.

Posted by: RedskinsNow | September 21, 2010 8:26 PM |


Thank you Dr. Frasier Crane.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

"Who can we bring in to light a fire under our WRs now?"

I got Yanks v. Rays on, so I'll have to be brief and honest.

McNabb just had a 400 yard passing performance, so why the need to add another wr?

AA, SMoss, JGalloway all had nice games--why bother?

(I know, you want VJAX.)

Questionable late game playcalling against the Texans (dink and dunk ball control passing is what was warrented) and the lack of a solid running attack are what ailed the offense this past weekend.

I have a sense that a more balanced approach is what we'll see moving forward.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 21, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

McNabb and Vick are both ballers. Both Defenses are suspect. This may be a shoot out. Kolb is too young, hasn't seen enough defenses...keep him as #2 for another year. Pats won't sign LJ. Kevin Faulk is a beast in space, on the screens LJ can't make anybody miss. That won't happen, but some team will give him a shot as their #2 RB. #3 RB's have to contribute on Special Team's LJ can't do that.

Posted by: madstamina | September 21, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Redskins cut running back Larry Johnson

...

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 21, 2010 7:43 PM


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Well Done Moe. Good call on Johnson from earlier this year. Please pass me some of dat wake-n-bake ish... ;)

and

What the fucc pabrian2003, seariously.

You retailiate against the haters by becoming one? ie.You solve problems by becoming the problem? Holy ish. Wait til you have kids...if...b/c you have to be single, jus have to be!

Posted by: Vicc | September 21, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame people can't be voted off this blog like those realty TV shows. This fool would certainly qualify as nobody wants him here.

I'm sure in real life nobody wants to be around him because he is so negative. That's why he spends so much time on this site so he can find people that will communicate with him.

Posted by: RedskinsNow | September 21, 2010 8:26 PM |

Well I would be gone. So would half the other posters on here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Wowie

Fuccing Andy Reid. Only took one half of football to realize that Kolb is garbage and all the offensive weapons in the world ain't gonna fix that.

I'm pissed to learn that Michael Vick will be starting for that team. Vick is a winner. His time in Atlanta spoke volumes when he played versus when he didn't(injured). So much for a QB controversy in Philly. Damn.

Posted by: Vicc | September 21, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Today's Pointless Factoid:

"New Study Finds That Were Parents Send Their Kids TO DAYCARE Can Determine Whether Their Child Has BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS!"

Well, RI is kind of like a daycare for folks avoiding work.

So who has obvious behaviorial--and otherwise--problems?:

a. beep-beep

b. frak

c. pabrian

d. hessone

e. scottcampbell1975

f. redDMV

g. Poopy

i. mistamoe

j. no_punt_intended

k. brownwood

l. beantowngreg

m. vic1

n. redskinhead

o. psps23

p. p1funk

q. skinsfaninkehone

r. skinswillwin

s. brownwood

t. skinshaveagm

u. learnedhand

v. mrredskinwq

w. flounder21

y. gimmesummoe

z. ?

Moe rolls with '?' ask that dude always makes me wonder just who the F he is.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 21, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Questionable late game playcalling against the Texans (dink and dunk ball control passing is what was warrented) and the lack of a solid running attack are what ailed the offense this past weekend.

I have a sense that a more balanced approach is what we'll see moving forward.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 21, 2010 8:41 PM |

While I agree that the ball control game should have been played I can't fault the coaches for going for the knock out blow. We had enough big plays to think that it might work. It was a killer instinct that went unfulfilled and we haven't seen any of that sh!t around here in a long, long time.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gimmesummoe |

You counted brownwood twice. Is that good?

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Betts is avaliable. Torian should be called up fom the practice squad or maybe shanny will go back after slow willie

Posted by: bert3 | September 21, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Betts is avaliable. Torian should be called up fom the practice squad or maybe shanny will go back after slow willie

Posted by: bert3 | September 21, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey gimmesummoe, are you trying to say that Busy-Bee Nursery School may have sent me down a bad path?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 21, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

So if Shanahan cut Johnson because he was ineffective will we be reading tomorrow that Doughty was cut as well?

Posted by: Rep281 | September 21, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Chad who?

Oh yeah, and I'm glad to see that Andy Reid is taking a few plays out of the Redskins' playbook ... get rid of a perfectly good QB who may go on to take his next team to the SB and then drop your new franchise player like a hot potato after, what, 10 plays? Cerrato-esque!

Posted by: Rational_Man | September 21, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Whats up HessForceOne!!!

Yeah we could give the ol' CP HB Pass another go. Especially when the Skins are up 27-0 in the 4th quarter.

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 21, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't see this coming...haha.

Posted by: dc1020008 | September 21, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I realized why there are so many Pittsburgh Steelers bars around the country.

...Everyone wants to get the f*ck out of Pittsburgh.

Have you ever flown over that town? you could film Mad Max there tomorrow.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended

Yeah, standard issue Globalists shipped the steel industry (any American industry) overseas to pay 3rd-Worlders slave wages and destroy the American unions and middle-class (Thank You for shopping at Wal-Mart), Rust-belt barely gurgling above water, trying to be an arts community or limping historical tourist attraction, but more likely , a great place to deal and score drugs , fill them prisons, Honky Cowpoke Lawman..

That said, Steelers were all over the Titans from the get-jump.."HA!!HA!!HAAAA!! WE'VE BEEN WAITIN' FOR YOUR RAINSOAKED A**ES FOR MONTHS!!!"..

Posted by: frak | September 21, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

"Johnson was largely unproductive in the preseason..."

I'm trying to think of a RB who was productive, except a little at Buffalo.

Not coming up with one.

Our rushing attack, which somebody around here insisted earlier wasn't the issue in our loss to Houston, is still a concern. I think it goes beyond the back, and is more about the line and the strategies that opposing defenses have used against us in the first two games. I mean, for McNabb to throw for 400+ yards against Houston means they had to be giving him the pass. And for three quarters, it seemed to be working in Washington's favor.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 21, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Where did Jason Reid learn how to write? Who the blank is this guy Shaffer he's talking about? (obviously its grandmama #2's agent, but he doesn't spell it out in the "article" if you can call it that!)

Posted by: dc1020008 | September 21, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

no_punt

"You counted brownwood twice. Is that good?"


Well, I am in a daycare for nutty sportsfans. Maybe I can't count and do the alphabet at the same time.

poopy_mcpoop

"Hey...are you trying to say that Busy-Bee Nursery School may have sent me down a bad path?"

Poopy, I think the path you're on is called Skid Row.

And that's a slippery path that's never good.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 21, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse


portis pockets straight

Posted by: hessone | September 21, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

"Simpson 30, oh he's young. MorgAn state, powerhouse. Good job in training camp coaches!"

Duh! Johnson is 30 and Simpson is 25!

Posted by: lacy41 | September 21, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse


the "article" if you can call it that!)

Posted by: dc1020008 | September 21, 2010 9:19 PM |

it's a thread on a blog or blitz = dog

Posted by: hessone | September 21, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Well I would be gone. So would half the other posters on here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 8:56 PM |

True. But they'd figure out a way to write you back in. You're an evolving character and you're good for ratings.

Posted by: mack1 | September 21, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Whose watching the game on NFLN?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 21, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

You retailiate against the haters by becoming one? ie.You solve problems by becoming the problem? Holy ish. Wait til you have kids...if...b/c you have to be single, jus have to be!

Posted by: Vicc

that's right, I'm not solving any problems just giving back the hate I got up here. so sorry you can't handle it, don't cry

anyone hear about New Soup's extension? one and done. Now that we have Chad Whoever we're good, it's still pre-season for us we're that great

shana zorn

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Wierd. Portis hasn't shown much either and I sure haven't seen any decent run blocking.

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 21, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

LJ... not sure why he a) made the team, b) is still on the team.

I'd kick K Williams to number 2 and give him 8 touches per, make Ryan Torrain part of the 53, and send LJ off to wherever.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 21, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Givin props where they're due. Feeling the vibe all the way in Hawaii.

Here I am trying to come up with words to describe pabrian, but I can't. He's indescribable. Yet somehow also hard to ITA. In a little bit of pickle because he's just. that. dumb.

I have no problems with this move whatsoever. A couple radio peeps don't like the move (LaVar), but they just come off as bluster. I agree the timing is weird, but seems they did their due diligence and if he can't help us, cut him. LaVar actually called this move "worse than anything Zorn or Vinny could have done". ufb.

Really? Hello, Randle El anyone?!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 21, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Hello, Randle El anyone?!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 21, 2010 10:01 PM

ARE wasn't Zorn or Vinny -- that was a Joe Gibbs/Al Saunders selection. Jason Taylor was a Vinny pick. And so was Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 21, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

that's right, I'm not solving any problems just giving back the hate I got up here. so sorry you can't handle it, don't cry

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 9:55 PM

Good plan. Going postal will really convince those haters that they were wrong.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 21, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

True. But they'd figure out a way to write you back in. You're an evolving character and you're good for ratings.

Posted by: mack1 | September 21, 2010 9:28 PM |

I'm sure you mean devolving character.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

ARE wasn't Zorn or Vinny -- that was a Joe Gibbs/Al Saunders selection. Jason Taylor was a Vinny pick. And so was Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 21, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I have no beef with the selection, since it's not my money. I was more referring to keeping him in as primary PR all year long last year despite obvious ineptitude. It was the opposite of this move (cutting LJ). Leaving him in there was unforgivable.

I'm not saying they should have cut ARE, he was reasonably productive as WR. Shanny would have taken one or two games before making a switch IMO.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 21, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

My first post after the skins loss was , CUT LJ, Thank you ! this is not the old regime Baby !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | September 21, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Picking up Simpson (Morgan State University Bears) and keeping Torrain on the PS was a good move. Otherwise, Torrain may not have cleared waivers if we needed to send him back down again. That's how we lost Marcus Mason to the Jets. oh course Mason didn't exactly light it up.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | September 21, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Romo,

Well, Vinny did cut Suisham and a couple of punters, including the one that he drafted.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 21, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

[b] we should trade for someone like marshawn lynch. haynesworthless for lynch? i'd do it in a heartbeat! [/b]

Posted by: kman2 | September 21, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

that's right, I'm not solving any problems just giving back the hate I got up here. so sorry you can't handle it, don't cry

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 21, 2010 9:55 PM
--------

Well you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Right Batman?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 21, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Awesome move. Simpson looks like the perfect change of pace/3rd down back. Now if we can just dump Horton for the best available free safety...this way we have insurance if KMoore41 goes down again.

Posted by: fcmuenchweiler | September 21, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Good grief.

Responses to pabrian are taking up half the blog.

I hate him as much as the next guy, but can't we just do the sensible thing, relegate his nonsense to "troll" status, stop feeding his tired schtick and get on with our blogging?

Posted by: p1funk | September 21, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow, dead in here tonight.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Awesome move. Simpson looks like the perfect change of pace/3rd down back. Now if we can just dump Horton for the best available free safety...this way we have insurance if KMoore41 goes down again.

Posted by: fcmuenchweiler | September 21, 2010 11:13 PM |

I don't know if perfect is the word I would use but he can't be any worse than LJ. If he were perfect he wouldn't be available.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Awesome move. Simpson looks like the perfect change of pace/3rd down back. Now if we can just dump Horton for the best available free safety...this way we have insurance if KMoore41 goes down again.

Posted by: fcmuenchweiler | September 21, 2010 11:13 PM |

I don't know if perfect is the word I would use but he can't be any worse than LJ. If he were perfect he wouldn't be available.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 11:22 PM | R

I think I would rather have Horton over Doughty but I certainly agree with the idea. We need another free safety.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Got a favorite beer from Stone Brew?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 21, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

LMAO THE EAGLES ARE STARTING THAT SCUMBAG VICK!! the eagles s-u-c-k suck suck suck lmao vick lol lol lmao

 WEAPON X ORAKPO AND CARNAGE LARON LANDRY ARE GONNA MAUL VICK LIKE A PITBULL!! MR. SINISTER DHALL WILL HAVE PIC 6'S ALL DAY!!

IT's GONNA BE A SLAUGHTER AT THE LINC WEEK4 THE WOLF PACK COMES TO TOWN AND TORTURES THE EAGLES LIKE VICK PAID TO HAVE THOSE PITS SHOCKED TO DEATH THEIR THROAT 's SLIT AND TORTURED BEFORE OFFING THEM WHAT A SCUMBAG!
 The F eAGLES NEVER WON A SUPER BOWL AND NEVER WILL! Hahahahahahahaha!

 HELL IS GONNA RAIN DOWN ON PHILLY WEEK 4! MCNABB ALMOST THREW FOR 500 YARD ON SUN HE WILL HAVE OVER 500YARD PASSING AND 3 TD's WEEK 4 AS THE REDSKINS SHUTOUT THOSE COWARDS!!
BOOK IT!!! HTTR!
H romo is even better then that scum vick!
 THE WOLVES ARE COMING THEY SMELL BLLOD!
 MCNABBS REVENGE IS GONNA BE LEGENDARY !!
!!
! IT's SO FUN TO LIVE IN YORK, PA TO GET TO SEE ALL THE EAGLES FANS CRY EVERY WEEK ABOUT HOW THEIR TEAM AND CITY SUCK AND WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD OR WIN A SUPER BOWL LIKE THE other local teams the REDSKINS STEELERS RAVENS GIANT AND LMAO JETS!
I guess philly has the phils lmao lmao baseball is a dying sport turning into dust!  Philly better Hold on to the phils as long as they can cause that's all they got!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | September 21, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Got a favorite beer from Stone Brew?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 21, 2010 11:51 PM

Can't go wrong with Double Bastard

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 21, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Haha no can't go wrong with that. I also love their IPA and when I'm there I gotta get atleast one of the Imperial Russians.

Need to go down there soon, if for nothing more than to refill my growler.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 22, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Haha no can't go wrong with that. I also love their IPA and when I'm there I gotta get atleast one of the Imperial Russians.

Need to go down there soon, if for nothing more than to refill my growler.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 22, 2010 12:10 AM |

Have you tried the Old Guardian Barley Wine? It's pretty damn good too.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 22, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

I believe my ladyfriend enjoys that and whenever she orders it i'll have a sip or 2.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 22, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

as a true Redskins fan who no longer lives in the DC metro area, I enjoy reading the post online. it gives me a sense of being back home in Germantown, Md. until recdently I never really posted here but have long enjoyed reading SOME of the stuff most of you put up here. I don't know any of you from Jacki but some of you guys (and girls) are insightful and entertaining. Mistamoe, Red, Scampbell and a few others always have intelligent well thought out stuff to be read. Poopy and a few others are just plain funny. that being said some of you scare the he double hockey sticks out of me. I'm not a judging man but I can offer some advice to some of you.
Hessone: cocaine is not a good sugar substitute for your coffee
pabrian: the legal age for sexual consent in Pa. is not when you can outrun your uncle. leave your neice alone or take it to West Virginia
Mr.Irvin: your crack pipe is not here
Beep Beep: beep beep
Romolongballs: a better name could not be had.
oh yeah football. the ground game will show signs of life this week trust me. Shanford and son ( i'm staying with that) will find a balance and we win 30-17

Posted by: nflorida1 | September 22, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

I believe my ladyfriend enjoys that and whenever she orders it i'll have a sip or 2.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 22, 2010 12:23 AM

Dude, it's a beer with 11.3% alcohol. Good call feeding it to the women...but it is good.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 22, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Who on this list WON'T be with the team next year

A. Haynesworthless

B. Portis

C. Moss

D. Carter

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

oh yeah football. the ground game will show signs of life this week trust me. Shanford and son ( i'm staying with that) will find a balance and we win 30-17

Posted by: nflorida1 | September 22, 2010 12:25 AM

You would think with a passing attack like we had last week the run would be a little more open. I guess we'll see.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 22, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Who on this list WON'T be with the team next year

A. Haynesworthless

B. Portis

C. Moss

D. Carter

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 12:40 AM |

A,B,D.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 22, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Troeg's Troegenator 8% alc, Weyerbacher's Insanity like 14% alc, and Troeg's Mad Elf 13% alc is some of the best brew in South Central PA!! a six pack of either during a Skins game with a large bacon and pinapple pizza from Marcello's or Jerry and Sal's pizza is heaven and a lot of yellimg at the TV lol

Posted by: warriorking1112 | September 22, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth- traded mid season

Portis- left out to dry as a FA, maybe we get a comp pick for him

Carter- traded or cut?????? He's gotta be worth atleast a 4th....

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Troeg's Troegenator 8% alc, Weyerbacher's Insanity like 14% alc, and Troeg's Mad Elf 13% alc is some of the best brew in South Central PA!! a six pack of either during a Skins game with a large bacon and pinapple pizza from Marcello's or Jerry and Sal's pizza is heaven and a lot of yellimg at the TV lol

Posted by: warriorking1112 | September 22, 2010 12:48 AM

Is this Troeg a local brew?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 22, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth- traded mid season

Portis- left out to dry as a FA, maybe we get a comp pick for him

Carter- traded or cut?????? He's gotta be worth atleast a 4th....

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse


"Samvitch and the stompers..."
Posted by: Vic1


Thanks vic, that was a good one.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 22, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

I would f'ck suzy kolber senseless.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 22, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth- traded mid season

Portis- left out to dry as a FA, maybe we get a comp pick for him

Carter- traded or cut?????? He's gotta be worth atleast a 4th....

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 12:53 AM |

Maybe I'm being a little hasty. It's a little early in the season to be passing judgement on those 2. I'm not sure yet whether it's Portis or the o line that is causing this stench. My guess is a combination but it could be that this oline just hasn't gelled yet so I'll reserve judgement on Portis for at leaast a couple more games. Andre Carter, too, hasn't been given enough time to adjust. Granted he didn't do well in his last experiment as a LB but he is older and more experienced now. Plus he seems to be a physical freak of nature. His contract will make it a little difficult to just dump him too. Would be nice if he would wave that no trade clause but his 10+ sack season last year will have faded into the distance by the end of this season.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 22, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

...Oh and Hayney traded as soon as reasonably possible.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 22, 2010 1:05 AM | Report abuse

One thing I miss about not living in MD is Dogfish. Loved going to their spot in Germantown or picking up their beer in local beer stores around the MD-area. The 90-Minute IPA, mmmmmmmmm.....beer

Troeg's are definitely good too.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 22, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

One thing I miss about not living in MD is Dogfish. Loved going to their spot in Germantown or picking up their beer in local beer stores around the MD-area. The 90-Minute IPA, mmmmmmmmm.....beer

Troeg's are definitely good too.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 22, 2010 1:06 AM |

Always liked Dogfish. Never heard of Troeg's though...
...peace...
HAIL!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 22, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Florida

I'm from gtown also....

The great thing bout being from there is how much it motivates to get out of there....

When did you leave for fla???

I left in 03 right after graduation

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Florida

I'm from gtown also....

The great thing bout being from there is how much it motivates to get out of there....

When did you leave for fla???

I left in 03 right after graduation

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 1:21 AM | Report abuse

I would f'ck suzy kolber senseless.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 22, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Something tells me you'd have to roll over and let her drive. Just a guess.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 22, 2010 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Fools
He didnt play for LaPlata. His dad would never let him play there. He left before high school. He would have played for McDonough. Do your research

Posted by: mcvacin | September 22, 2010 1:25 AM | Report abuse

I agree, portis will continue to get better as the season rolls on....

I think he's done this year tho, regaurdless of how well he does I think we get fresh legs in there

Carter may get a 1 year rental until we develop a OLB opposite Osackpo

I expect equal turnaround this upcoming offseason as there was this yr.

One or two major signings, a few smart trades, quality draft picks

Olb, nt, de, rb, wr, c

Welll seee......

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 1:33 AM | Report abuse

I agree, portis will continue to get better as the season rolls on....

I think he's done this year tho, regaurdless of how well he does I think we get fresh legs in there

Carter may get a 1 year rental until we develop a OLB opposite Osackpo

I expect equal turnaround this upcoming offseason as there was this yr.

One or two major signings, a few smart trades, quality draft picks

Olb, nt, de, rb, wr, c

Welll seee......

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse

McDonough, La Plata, Chopticon, Westlake, they all suck anyway.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 22, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse

mymy boy poopy is from md too????

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Who on this list WON'T be with the team next year

A. Haynesworthless

B. Portis

C. Moss

D. Carter

i think it will end up being A and D, with Portis as 3rd down back or a blocking back next season unless he can start producing and we could use him as trade bait for a AP type back

Posted by: warriorking1112 | September 22, 2010 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Your boy Poopy went to a SMAC school.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 22, 2010 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Mr poops

Wth is smac school???

Is that like mrirvin crack school??

I went to seneca valley n northwest.

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 2:30 AM | Report abuse

@Brandon in cali,
I left in 02 to open a business in W.V. (live and learn) then to Fl. in 06 where Buccaneers fans don't know football. I'm now in Louisiana surrounded by Saints fans and these guys remind me of true Redskins fans from back in the day. one thing about Germantown i miss well the whole D.C. area is the strong economy. I made some of the best money of my life there. considering Government isn't getting smaller anytime soon I assume the economy is still strong. I've seen alot of america in my life but D.C. metro will always be home to me. Hail Redskins HAIL SHANford and SON

Posted by: nflorida1 | September 22, 2010 2:35 AM | Report abuse

@McPoop,
are you referring to Dogfish on W.Diamond ave in Quice Orchard? I used to cook there back when it was Pat and Mikes. didn't really care for the place when it became dogfish but I'm biased. when I did drink "Saloon" in Georgetown on M street that place has over one hundred beers from around the world and always good blues playin. closer to Germantown in olde towne G-burg was the place on E. Diamond I can't remember the name, but if you ever want to get drunk and get a snarlin on the train tracks that was the place

Posted by: nflorida1 | September 22, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse

check for job openings near you paying up to $29.00/hour part-time & full-time http://bit.ly/aCgJH5

Posted by: derrickjay | September 22, 2010 2:56 AM | Report abuse

I agree, portis will continue to get better as the season rolls on....

I think he's done this year tho, regaurdless of how well he does I think we get fresh legs in there

Carter may get a 1 year rental until we develop a OLB opposite Osackpo

I expect equal turnaround this upcoming offseason as there was this yr.

One or two major signings, a few smart trades, quality draft picks

Olb, nt, de, rb, wr, c

Welll seee......

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse
I AGREE maybe if we could get aj hawk for cheap in a trade and try to develop him to go other side rak or pull off a trade for chris long since we have the rams been our trade buddies this year and move him to olb i dont think rocky is gonna be here next season tho so we might need a decent mlb to team up with fletcher! but i think this team and mcnabb will get alot better as the season rolls on as it gels into the systems!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | September 22, 2010 3:11 AM | Report abuse

troeg bro brew brews in harrisburg but is moving to Hershy right next to Hershy park they have unlimited beer sample tour on sats its a bad ass place to go and watch some college games

Posted by: warriorking1112 | September 22, 2010 3:14 AM | Report abuse

You counted brownwood twice. Is that good?

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 21, 2010 9:02 PM


Of course it is...after all, two negatives equals a positive...

As for the list of who won't be here next year, let me add one:

A. Haynesworthless

B. Portis

C. Moss

D. Carter

E. All of the above

I vote E.

They'll probably lowball Moss and he'll walk, going somewhere like Baltimore where he can team up with all those blowhards from "The U". We'll start over at WR with a rookie and Vincent Jackson.

You heard it here first...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 5:36 AM | Report abuse

What’s DM5 think? If I’m Allen I’m asking him who do you want to throw to. Wow I hope Moss doesn’t get sidelined for any reason. Damn, Sellers is the third leading receiver on the team.

Posted by: joe_king | September 22, 2010 5:43 AM | Report abuse

All I'm saying is you have another opportunity to get better…you have take it.

Posted by: joe_king | September 22, 2010 5:50 AM | Report abuse

Awesome move. Simpson looks like the perfect change of pace/3rd down back.

Posted by: fcmuenchweiler | September 21, 2010 11:13 PM

Yeah that's how you get the "perfect" back. You wait for Indianapolis and Buffalo to cut him then you pounce.

Guy was signed for special teams.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 22, 2010 5:59 AM | Report abuse

SS LaRon Landry. He’s been Washington’s best defensive player in the first two weeks and it’s a credit to how he’s being used. He smells blood on ballcarriers the same way LaVar Arrington used to. He already has 28 tackles. But it’s his blitzing ability that is fun to watch. He’s savvy about it, too. On some blitzes, he comes across the line and loses himself behind the big linemen. That forces other offensive linemen to commit and that opens a lane for Landry. I’m pretty sure Matt Schaub is still feeling him today.

LB Rocky McIntosh. Have to admit, I was surprised to see that he had so many tackles (14) in the game. There were a few plays in which he needed to be more patient vs. the run; allowed cutback runs. But in the second half he was excellent vs. the run and taking on blockers. More of his tackles in the second half were within several yards of the line of scrimmage; that’s when you know a guy is effective.

DE Adam Carriker. In watching the game again, I kept thinking, ‘What a steal.’ Not something often said when it comes to a Redskins trade. Carriker stays awfully low for a guy his size. Houston’s running game did not produce like the previous week in part because he did a good job holding the edge. He stayed low a couple times, squeezing under a pulling guard one play for a loss and getting another tackle by dipping under the other guard. Carriker played nose on at least one snap, too. He had a quarterback hurry. There were a couple plays when he was driven out, Landry bailed out the D with a tackle.

QB Donovan McNabb. Yes, he missed some throws and could have had nearly 500 yards. But that’s like complaining if Kobe Bryant makes 16 of 20 field goals and rims out a couple shots; the guy was nearly perfect. Those he did miss were by inches. On one pass that was nearly intercepted late in the game near the goal line, it appeared Santana Moss didn’t run the route McNabb anticipated. I liked how McNabb was very accurate in terms of allowing players to run after the catch. Like Matt Schaub, he stayed poised vs. the rush.

WR Santana Moss. The Redskins have a running game; it’s now done by a receiver. Those short passes to Moss sustain drives. He would have broken one of those smoke routes for a long run had Joey Galloway gotten his block. Moss’ quickness makes him a threat in this role. I’d like to see him get downfield a little more, but that might have to wait until the ground game gets going. Another play I loved: Moss threw a nice crackback block on a linebacker to open up a Portis run to the outside.

PK Graham Gano. I know he missed a 52-yarder, but he made three field goals and his kickoffs were unbelievable. Steve Slaton had some brain cramps on his returns, but Gano put him in bad situations. He excelled with pinning him to a side and the only time Houston had good starting position after a kick is when Mike Sellers was called a 15-yard penalty to the 36-yard line. On every other drive, Houston started in its own 23.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 5:59 AM | Report abuse

Duds (there are plenty)

TE Fred Davis. It’s not just the blown block on the missed field goal, though that alone was enough to get him on here. Just a lazy play, but it was the same effort he’d given on some earlier kicks and extra-point attempts. Check the last extra point; same half-hearted attempt to get a hand on his guy. His blocking was better, but he still is very inconsistent and his head is lowered way too often. When he engages with his head up, he’s effective. He even had a nice block pulling from the H-back spot a couple times. But maybe the worst block came on a play in which Washington could have iced the game. Late in the game, Clinton Portis bounced outside to the left. Had Davis held his block on, you guessed it Bernard Pollard, Portis probably picks up the first down inside the 5 (even though he was falling forward). Instead, he’s tackled. Next play: false start Jammal Brown. Next play: incomplete pass. Next play: blocked field goal. Davis allowed a sack vs. Mario Williams (engaged him fine, then head down and, naturally, beaten). Yes, that’s a mismatch, but better technique would have helped.

SS Chris Horton. I know he wasn’t in much and you have to cut him some slack. Then again, he’s a former starter. He got antsy on his blitz and was called for offsides. Then he got whipped by tight end Joel Dreessen. Horton said he played the wrong technique. Sure. Honestly, he was just beaten. It wasn’t about technique.

LG Derrick Dockery. Whether or not Kory Lichtensteiger should be rotating with him is irrelevant. Dockery needs to block better. The reason he has never risen above average is because of technique. He still lunges too often – a problem Joe Bugel got on him for years ago – and was too upright on other sets. I wonder what will happen the more the ‘Steiger gets comfortable at guard. The L-train did a good job moving his feet on some stunts. But he lacks Dock’s power. However, Dock’s power did not help him at the goal line when Houston’s Shaun Cody got under him and knocked him back.

DE Kedric Golston. One of my favorites because of his consistent all-out effort; but he was getting moved a bit too easily and that opened some cutback lanes. When the cutbacks are an issue, you have to look backside. He was driven out on some other runs, too. Not his best game. In an ideal situation, he’s a third end.

CB Phillip Buchanon. He’s been fine in the two games and on the play before the touchdown to Andre Johnson, he made a terrific play to knock a pass away. But on a crucial play he made a critical mistake. Buchanon needed to stay with Johnson much longer. Instead, he put Reed Doughty in a no-win jump-ball situation. At least Doughty played it right; he just got beat. Still, I have to ask: on a play in which you can win the game, why have a combination of Buchanon/Doughty on arguably the game’s best receiver?

more...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 6:02 AM | Report abuse

continued:

RB Larry Johnson. Wow, has he gotten slow. But he needs to run between the tackles at this stage. The minute his pads are perpendicular to the line of scrimmage, he’s done. He needs to run with power and that eliminates any chance. On cutbacks, it’s imperative to press the hole as long as possible to get defenders to overpursue (as Adrian Foster did). On one Johnson run, he started to cut back right after he took the handoff and about a few yards from the line. Nobody fooled; easy tackle. We’ll add him to the list of Miscast Player. It’s growing. Oh, and there was that 10-yard loss in which he reversed field. Just go down.

LT Stephon Heyer. I know, he had just been moved over to left tackle when called for a holding penalty that wiped out a first down. But it’s not as if he hadn’t been playing. He said Monday that he thought the ball was out before the hold. Uh, no. Better next time to say: Guilty as charged. On the previous play, at right tackle, he was beaten by Antonio Smith (who beat him on the hold, too). Heyer has improved, but he’s still a reserve at best.

Pass defense. You know, I’m trying to figure out who’s to blame for this. I really, really liked what I saw from Schaub. Guy is accurate and very patient. Both traits kill zones. Hmmm. Anyway, Carlos Rogers did not seem as comfortable in the zone, but I know on one pass where he trailed Andre Johnson it appeared Landry might have missed his assignment. Doughty is not the fastest and the linebackers are only OK in coverage. But one guy to blame? Nope. It’s also stunning how often the Redskins are fooled on bootlegs; that’s all they saw this summer in practice! Some of it, perhaps, stems from how aggressive they play. Only once did Schaub face any pressure after a bootleg and it’s when Landry blitzed. Other than that, wide open field.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 6:04 AM | Report abuse

More goodies from Keim over at the Examiner:

As for Albert Haynesworth, Hall used to be one of his biggest supporters. Now, not so much.

He said: "It's, it's an ongoing saga. From Albert being banged up to not holding up his end of the bargain. I think people had refrained from really commenting on the situation because we really wanted to get him in here and wanted him to buy into what we're doing here and be a part of the process. It's still up in the air as to if he has bought in. We still can't get a feel for his mindset. We see him out there in practice and he goes pretty hard in practice. ... I went the bat for him a couple times and, uh, I'm still trying to find the strike zone."

And then: "I think at the end of the day, he has enough guys in his ear and helping him out, as far as players on our roster, that I think he'll get with it. It's definitely taking a little longer than a lot of us wish it did. But Albert's a different person. ... I think I might've wanted him to handle things the way I would have, or Fletcher might've wanted him to handle things the way he would have, but we've got to back off and let him sort through it the way he would do it. That's been the biggest thing so far: us trying to figure out why he would do this or that, but that's just Al being Al and eventually he'll suit up and get the most out of it."

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Redskins-radio-highlights-103463589.html#ixzz10Fesa2uW

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 6:08 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for that Brownwood. More insight than you can get from a year of reading the Post. They should move Reid over to Style and let him review Drama and bring Keim into the Post.

Especially love that stuff from Hall -- "I went to bad for him but can't find the strike zone." Hall's gonna be good on TV one day.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 22, 2010 6:17 AM | Report abuse

OK well we know Portis can't go the whole game so does Keiland Williams come in now to spell Clinton or is it Simpson? What can we expect to see Sunday?

Posted by: FedorEm | September 22, 2010 6:30 AM | Report abuse

Especially love that stuff from Hall -- "I went to bad for him but can't find the strike zone." Hall's gonna be good on TV one day.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 22, 2010 6:17 AM


If by "good on TV" you mean "good on top of Kim Kardashian in her next sex tape", then I'll agree. Otherwise, it would be a disaster of epic proportions...think Emmitt Smith on ESPN or Jerry Rice at his HoF induction...

I do like his analogy though.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 6:34 AM | Report abuse

OK well we know Portis can't go the whole game so does Keiland Williams come in now to spell Clinton or is it Simpson? What can we expect to see Sunday?

Posted by: FedorEm | September 22, 2010 6:30 AM

Fedor--Simpson was signed for special teams.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 22, 2010 6:35 AM | Report abuse

So Beep, then Williams is the only other RB that will be active on Sundays that has a chance to play. Not sure I like that too much. I don't see why Torrain wasn't brought back. Oh well, I am interested to see how this shakes out.

Posted by: FedorEm | September 22, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse

brownwood--It wasn't just the analogy. I thought his whole analysis of the Haynesworth problem was both thoughtful and insightful.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 22, 2010 6:40 AM | Report abuse


but that's just Al being Al and eventually he'll suit up and get the most out of it."

Don't see it happening. Anything else on AH is a waste of oxygen.


Posted by: hessone | September 22, 2010 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Not that he'll get a lot of touches on offense, but Chad Simpson had a whopping 6.8 yards per carry last year:

http://www.nfl.com/players/chadsimpson/profile?id=SIM482496

Pretty small sample size (only 15 carries each of his first two seasons), but perhaps he's got the kind of speed and agility required to excel in this offense...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

My only thought is that if CP is the only back getting carries that will surely be bad for our running game and his career, which is likely over as a featured back anyway. Who knows maybe Williams will beast out.

Posted by: FedorEm | September 22, 2010 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Not that he'll get a lot of touches on offense, but Chad Simpson had a whopping 6.8 yards per carry last year:

http://www.nfl.com/players/chadsimpson/profile?id=SIM482496

Pretty small sample size (only 15 carries each of his first two seasons), but perhaps he's got the kind of speed and agility required to excel in this offense...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

but if I am reading that right there are two 31 yard long runs subtract that. you have 13 carries for 40 yards and a 3.1 average.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 22, 2010 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Alex, you've seen how putrid the rushing "attack" is in Indy for the most part...running for 3.1 ypc in Indy is like running for 4.1 somewhere else. I know we're not one to talk right now, but with the speed this guy has it could help us out quite a bit.

If you haven't already, watch the video in that link. His KO return for a TD last year was sweet...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 7:24 AM | Report abuse

I don't see why Torrain wasn't brought back.

Posted by: FedorEm | September 22, 2010 6:38 AM

Does he play special teams? I'm thinking that the coaches aren't as impressed with him as the bloggers here are.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 22, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

"Not that he'll get a lot of touches on offense, but Chad Simpson had a whopping 6.8 yards per carry last year..."


The numbers notwithstanding,you have to hope C Simpson--whoever he is--is able to make good use of his speed in the open field.

In fact, punt/kick returning ability means, if anything, you script a series of 'checkdown, screen, and pick play' passing plays where Simpson gets the ball in space.

He might maintain the average yards per rush listed above.

Or: he may give the skins' offense something it presently lacks--speed out of the backfield.


Posted by: MistaMoe | September 22, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

it was a lame idea to bring LJ and Parker here in the 1st place, but the root causes of the poor running game is poor run blocking. Rabach is getting beaten on every single run play and that was happening with regularity last season. At his age, this isnt a slump. Rotating Dock and Licthensteiger et al is not to keep anyone fresh, it's see if any of them can play the way the coaches want. We dont have the small lineman that Denver used for their zone blocking scheme, and it appears our big boys are not suited to this scheme that call for a lot of movement.

The running game will probably be bad all year and will have to be set-up by the pass. Thankfully the pass blocking has been very good and we have a 6x pro bowler under the helm. Should be fun to watch and fairly effective

Posted by: divi3 | September 22, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

That guy has some speed.

LJ wasn't going to do anything for this team so it's best they got rid of him, Williams or this new cat are better guys to give CP a break anyway.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 22, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

deangelo said,
"I went the bat for him a couple times and, uh, I'm still trying to find the strike zone."

gotta admit, this threw me at first. he talks about "going to bat" for haynesworth - which i presume is a reference to being a batter. then he talks about not being able to "find the strike zone" - like he's a pitcher...

shoulda been something like, "went to bat for albert....but couldn't make contact"...anyway, he's deangelo's a pretty good football player, but announcer...i don't know... he could learn, though - sure seems to love to talk.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 22, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

divi,

I disagree about bringing LJ and WP in if all that it did was help motivate CP then it was worth it.

The runnig game will be fine it's two games into a new scheme give it a few weeks.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 22, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

divi, your comments popped this into my head...Shanahan spent some time in NE with Belichick during training camp last season. He's not tanking the ground game on purpose obviously, but you've gotta think that he took note of the way the Pats run their offense (short passes in lieu of traditional running plays). I mean, we did have our best offensive output to date playing that type of ball and we now have the QB to do it...

Obviously not the way things will go for the long term, but in what looks like a weak NFC East it could be enough to get by for now.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Yeah I agree with other commenters, NE would seem a good place to look, but it would be funny if the Giants signed him

Posted by: Veretax | September 22, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

I disagree about bringing LJ and WP in if all that it did was help motivate CP then it was worth it.

The runnig game will be fine it's two games into a new scheme give it a few weeks.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 22, 2010 7:55 AM

Who knows what makes Clinton run? I doubt it was having these two guys in camp, but we'll never know. Personally, I'm glad they brought them in, but think they both should have been cut after preseason.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 22, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse


The runnig game will be fine it's two games into a new scheme give it a few weeks.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 22, 2010 7:55 AM |

divi3 makes a solid point about the size of our o-line and the speed necessary for a zone blocking scheme. Pass protection has been good so far, agree, but I'm skeptical when it comes to these guy's zone blocking.


Posted by: hessone | September 22, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Yeah I agree with other commenters, NE would seem a good place to look, but it would be funny if the Giants signed him

Posted by: Veretax | September 22, 2010 8:01 AM


I would be...especially since they already have an old, slow, washed up power back by the name of Brandon Jacobs...

Anyone else see that the Saints are gonna bring our old friend Ladell Betts back to fill Reggae Bush's roster spot? I guess we shoulda sent him to NE for Moss and Brady when we had the chance, huh Greg?

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Obviously not the way things will go for the long term, but in what looks like a weak NFC East it could be enough to get by for now.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 7:59 AM

I've been thinking, who knows, maybe it IS the long term. I love that we have Kyle Shanahan and now can expect a cutting edge nfl offense rather than a dinosaur. Zorn was running 1985 Niners, ugh.

It may be a tough pill to swallow for us NFC East folks, but Philly has done it for years and now we have Mcnabb. Pass 1st may be how the offense functions from here on out...not to say the current run situation is ok, it's not.

Posted by: divi3 | September 22, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

"but if I am reading that right there are two 31 yard long runs subtract that. you have 13 carries for 40 yards and a 3.1 average.Posted by: alex35332"

That's the sort Shanahan says he prefers -- he doesn't mind a bunch of short runs if they're interspersed with a couple long gains.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 22, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

was finally able to watch the Houston game last night...so according to some, I can now have an opinion on it...couple things...
1. zero defensive adjustments were made...none, nada, zip..thats not good...

2. their wideouts were running around W I D E open on a lot of plays, not just AJ either...

3. AH needs to play, otherwise they can't get pressure, guys get double teamed and can't beat them..

4. Galloway needs to come down with that ball...no excuses..

thats all I got for now...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

brown, haha, yeah thats right...

DMac was very, very impressive against houston, that was just a lazer show...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

hessone

"...but I'm skeptical when it comes to these guy's zone blocking."


I think there are two obvious issues with the running game:

a. 'zone-blocking' works better if the back has a great 'jump-cut' or, can take off to daylight with speed once he decides there's a crease in the blocking.

The jury is still out as to whether CP (he used to) or KWill has that ability.

b. Fullback lead plays aren't good with Portis as reading off a fullback's block has never been his strong point.

'Inside-zone' plays don't seem to be a staple of the Shanahan design, but might work.

Plus, the trouble in the modern NFL is once the fullback moves one way, linebackers follow.

It would help in this regard if the Shanahan's ran more counter/bootleg/misdirection off fullback lead action to put a second thought in the 'backers' mind.

Finally, the team would also do well to feature the run more in the second half of games as the league trend is passing first to wear down a front 7, then attacking it in the second half with a pounding rush attack.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 22, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

It may be a tough pill to swallow for us NFC East folks, but Philly has done it for years and now we have Mcnabb. Pass 1st may be how the offense functions from here on out...not to say the current run situation is ok, it's not.

Posted by: divi3 | September 22, 2010 8:11 AM


Philly's way is good for exactly 0 Super Bowls, so maybe not the best of examples.

But I get what you're saying...however, Shanahan isn't likely to just abandon what's worked for him for years. Plus the promise of a solid run game to compliment McNabb was part of the appeal of him playing here. It'll add years to his career and it's been shown that he's not going to carry you to a championship all by himself. It's good to have a great passing attack, but you HAVE to be balanced to succeed. If we can't run the ball, we're nothing more than a .500 team (see '08 Saints, '09 Texans)...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse


I'm not as worried about CP's speed as compared to his ability to read the zone blocking in front of him.

Posted by: hessone | September 22, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Today's Pointless Factoid:

"New Study Finds That Were Parents Send Their Kids TO DAYCARE Can Determine Whether Their Child Has BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS!"

Well, RI is kind of like a daycare for folks avoiding work.

So who has obvious behaviorial--and otherwise--problems?:

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 21, 2010 8:58 PM

Got to admit I'm kinda upset I didn't make the list...guess I'll have to try harder...I stood up for Poopy from the beginning...thought that would be an obvious behavioral issue!

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

hessone

hessone | September 22, 2010 8:26 AM |


Exactly--but, would you be willing to sit through atough game where he's fed the ball to get into a rhythm to where the reads become more natural?

I'd feature Williams abit for now.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 22, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

I have a feeling since we are playing on turf this weekend, our WRS should be getting tons of catches. Lots of bombs.

Posted by: FedorEm | September 22, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Let's face it, the running game won't get started this year at all. I like Portis, but we still need at least 3 more Olinemen and a younger change-of-pace back that can spell Portis. The writing is on the wall for Lick-my-stieger to replace Doc, there will be a new starter at RG and Hicks will move to backup, which is huge cause he can backup G and T, and Rabach should be gone but we just resigned him this year, doesn't look like we'll be getting rid of him anytime soon.
We might have a couple games here and there this year that we rush well, but for the most part we might have to pass first till we get guys to fit our schemes. Speaking of that, I don't even want to get started on the defense!
In the immortal words of Axle Rose: "All we need is just a little patience!!!"
Whistle solo........

Posted by: monk811 | September 22, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Greg, agree on all points accept the AH remark...if you saw that dude Week 1, he's the LAST thing we need. If they need a fat guy to half ass it and get swallowed up one-on-one, then I'm sure we've got some less disruptive options available. We got 5 sacks in that game, and for about 3 quarters of the game Schaub got a pretty steady rush in his face.

The problem is when we blitz, we don't have the players on the back end to make 'em pay, especially at FS. If Reed Doughty is your last line of defense, that makes for a long day...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

playaction

"Got to admit I'm kinda upset I didn't make the list...guess I'll have to try harder..."


First, you got to understand that gimmesummoe is a complete doosh--I see him everyday, so trust me here--and he can't buy music on the internet, watch baseball, blog, and list names all at the same time.

Porn is the guy's ADD medication.

We wears a glove on his right hand to make sure he protects the central object in his sex life.

His kids all look like his best friend.

His parents have a restraining order that keeps him away from family gatherings, funerals, dinners, and the crackhouse where they live.

He's a pathetic loser who mops around the house in a Trung Candidate redskin jersey.

Unfortuately, I made that list you mention, and have complained loudly to the RI Blog Owner about being associated with some of the characters named there.

All of them are cool--'cept gimmesummoe.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 22, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse


Moe

"I'd feature Williams abit for now".

Like to see him get more carries also. Does LSU use a zone blocking scheme ? I know they use a pro-style offense.

Posted by: hessone | September 22, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

also, mike sellers sucks as a lead blocker in case anyone hasnt noticed.

Posted by: divi3 | September 22, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

I still put most of the blame on Fred Davis.

Galloway outran two defenders and was trying to catch a 70 yard bomb over his shoulder. Should have caught it, but not the easiest play.

Gano missed a 52 yarder, forgiveable.

Reed just isn't good enough to cover AJ.

But all Davis has to do is stick out his arm and we win that game.

Lazy, lazy play.

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 22, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

LJ and Portis have definitively lost a step. In the first two games, Portis has tripped all over himself. Get a Youngun in there to add speed to the mix. Great move.

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | September 22, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Rypien, I agree 100%. Mental mistake that should have never happened.

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | September 22, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

also, mike sellers sucks as a lead blocker in case anyone hasnt noticed.

Posted by: divi3 | September 22, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Yes, he just gets by on what he used to do. He is no longer good in that capacity. He looks intimidating but what does that do for us.

Posted by: FedorEm | September 22, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

was finally able to watch the Houston game last night...so according to some, I can now have an opinion on it...
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 8:13 AM

Sorry Bean. That was unfair of me to suggest you need to actually watch the thing you're opining on. The best insights are always the ones pulled straight from your ass. Maybe you should start a movie critique blog. You could call it, "I Stayed Home: Beantown Greg reviews movies he's never seen."

Posted by: mack1 | September 22, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

ryp, disagree 1000 percent, FD had 2 guys across from him, he tried to chip the outside, and block the inside....sure not the greatest effort, but of all the things to focus on, I'm thinking the defense giving up well over 500 yards, and the lack of defensive adjustments, would be one of the first things I look at...but thats just me...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 22, 2010 8:42 AM

So am I on the list or not? I hate the fact that hessone has something that I don't.

Ohhhh and btw...I'm still waiting on those work accessible porn sites...

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

"...mike sellers sucks as a lead blocker in case anyone hasnt noticed."

True.

And whereas I understand the scheem issue of using a fullback lead on dump off plays (it makes a safety play up and opens the field behind him), I'd druther see CP/Williams out in the flat catching those dump off passes.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 22, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Couple of interesting news items.

Chargers want a 2nd and 3rd rounder for Jackson. I think that is a fair price. I also don't believe he will be on the Redskins next year unless they trade for him now. Whatever team does trade for him is more than likely going to lock him up. If he is not traded the Chargers will probably franchise him and trade him before next season. Yes I believe there will be a franchise tag in the new agreement. Owners are not going to give that up.


Vick is the Eagles starter. If I am Haslett I would have rather faced Kolb. Vick is going to be a handful for a team struggling to switch to a 3-4. The weakness up the middle will open it up to Vick runs. If you brink up safeties the receivers are excellent and will burn you with the pass. Tough game.

Posted by: srobert1117 | September 22, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse


also, mike sellers sucks as a lead blocker in case anyone hasnt noticed.

Posted by: divi3 | September 22, 2010 8:43 AM |

He's having problems in everything he does. He should be right behind LJ, out the door.

brown, agree with being in trouble when we blitz, so hopefully Moore will step it up a little when he comes back.

Posted by: hessone | September 22, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

haha mack, I read the many write ups of the game in the WP.....so try again with pulling stuff out of my arse......but seriously, feel free to play the role of the blog police....enforcing the "if you haven't seen it, you cannot comment" rule...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: srobert1117 | September 22, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Not to mention Vick will just bootleg every other play.

Posted by: oh_boy1 | September 22, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Vick blows

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Chargers want a 2nd and 3rd rounder for Jackson

1117, seems a little steep for VJ...I wish they could swing a deal for him, but not at what they're asking....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse


I hate the fact that hessone has something that I don't.

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 8:54 AM |

Be patient and you'll find happiness some day.


Posted by: hessone | September 22, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

There is a lot of work that needs to be done on the FG unit. I hear Danny Smith is a great ST coach, but we have had nothing but struggles from his teams.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 22, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Here's a WTF stat:

from NFL.com (as of 9/22/10)

9 Brandon Lloyd DEN WR 8 170 21.3

11 Santana Moss WAS WR 16 166 10.4

21 Chris Cooley WAS TE 9 144 16.0

Weren't all these guys in the same offense not too long ago?

Let me guess: B Lloyd's rap carrer blew up, and now he's trying to get street cred as a killa NFL receiver.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 22, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

I hate the fact that hessone has something that I don't.

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 8:54 AM |

Be patient and you'll find happiness some day.

Posted by: hessone | September 22, 2010 9:05 AM

Are you having chinese for breakfast hess?

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

moe, ouch, those stats are like a punch in the nutz....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 9:00 AM

Have you watched the game yet Greg?

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse


There is a lot of work that needs to be done on the FG unit. I hear Danny Smith is a great ST coach, but we have had nothing but struggles from his teams.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 22, 2010 9:07 AM |

co-sign

4 FG's made out of 7 attemps = not good at all.

Mistakes here all around. 1 blocked, 2 bad snaps with one resulting in no points, and 2 flat out misses. The 52 yard miss is excused, but this unit needs to get consistent in making FG's, not screwing up.

Posted by: hessone | September 22, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

pa, yeah last night on NFL Network...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse


Are you having chinese for breakfast hess?

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 9:07 AM |

Yes, and my fortune cookie says the Redskins will beat the Rams by 10 points. Cook it !

Posted by: hessone | September 22, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Yes, he just gets by on what he used to do. He is no longer good in that capacity. He looks intimidating but what does that do for us.

Posted by: FedorEm | September 22, 2010 8:50 AM


You could cut and paste that remark and apply it to AH verbatim...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 22, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Was signing LJ and Parker a mistake? Neither are on the roster, so it looks bad, but maybe they served a purpose. Almost everyone who watched OTAs and camp were impressed by LJ's effort. If nothing esle LJ and Parker provided additional motivation for Portis (whose contract ensured he wasn't going anywhere). They also served a veteran benchmark for our two young RBs.

I doubt the contracts signed by LJ and Parker contained much if any guaranteed money, so cutting them will have neglible impact on our salary cap, if it ever returns.

The fact that it turned out that those guys had nothing left, as most predicted when they signed, is only a little disappointing. It was always a low stakes, long odds gamble. It was almost certain that they never get back to the level they were at a few years ago, but if they had we would have got a top-class, starting calibre back for practically nothing.

Did we lose anything in the first two games? Well obviously those 10-yards hurt but really, is there anyone out there that could make yards behind the run-blocking we've seen in the last two games. Barry Sanders would struggle.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | September 22, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Vick blows

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Last I checked he wasn't in prison anymore. Oh well....

Posted by: monk811 | September 22, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Ryan Torain, is the practice squad covered by injury reports? If he is banged up, it could explain why he was not called up.

The coaches might think Simpson has more potential but, with less than a week to learn his roles, it is hard to believe he will play as well as someone who spent the pre-season learning and playing within our systems.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | September 22, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

i think it will end up being A and D, with Portis as 3rd down back or a blocking back next season unless he can start producing and we could use him as trade bait for a AP type back

Posted by: warriorking1112 | September 22, 2010 1:53 AM

I don't thin Portis has any trade value. I just look at all these big name running backs over the last number of years that haven't ever been able to catch on anywhere. Portis is to old with too much mileage to be effectively traded.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 22, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

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