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Well, spent some time on the phone with LaVar's agent, Kevin Poston, yesterday and he said that while it is possible that at some point this offseason the former face of the Redskins might decide to hang up the cleats, he hasn't done so yet. Poston says that LaVar is still in rehab and is working as if he is going to return, but admits that the future can be murky in a situation such as this.

Poston said Arrington will likely not be healthy enough to participate fully on the field until July or August, which is obviously pretty late in the game. Not that there wouldn't be some team willing to take a flyer at that point, or maybe even more than one, but I have a feeling it will be a very interesting summer for LaVar.

"I'm not saying that he's definitely not going to retire," Poston said, "but that's not something I have heard from LaVar. I am pretty close to him and we talk all the time, and he has not expressed that to me. For now he is rehabbing like he is going to be playing football, and we'll see how everything goes the next few months"

Arrington has essentially been injured since 20004 - he last played anything close to a full season in 2003 - but Poston said he is walking around and jogging now after blowing out his Achilles last season.

Randoms: Forgot to mention to you guys how I broke my pinky toe a few weeks back reading a bedtime story to Chloe on our bed. Seriously. I am beyond pathetic, I know ... Speaking of daddy duty, we went ot our first kicks for tots soccer practice today, where Chloe was essentially off running around on her own and not listening to the coach except for when there were actual drills with the soccer ball involved. I found myself getting all fired up when she kicked a few balls into an empty net ( I promise not to be a ridiculous, screaming sideline parent, as fear I have it somewhere deep within me, yet I know they are the dregs of society). And Sunday morning she's going to her first ever "concert," though I shudder to use that term in conjunction with The Doodlebops. Not my cup of tea, but it's going to be a surprise for her and I think she'll love it. Beleive it or not, it will be my first trip to Comcast Center. If anyone else is going to the 12:30 show, we plan to get there by 8 am and start tailgating. I'll be the dude with the Stella Artois in one hand and the sippy cup in the other. With any luck someone will be there with a video camera to document it all, and we'll make history with "Kiddie Rock Parking Lot."

By Jason La Canfora  |  April 20, 2007; 6:26 AM ET
 
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1st, and sadly only this early in the AM, at least JLa is up!

From the past post

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I was watching the Sportcenter Special @ 8 oclokc last night where they discussed in depth the draft and teams.

If we take Alan Branch, I will shoot myself... well, that is to say if we pick him at 6.

He had 25 TACKLES last year!! 25!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okoye had 55.

So for all those Alan Branch fans, only if we move down to 31 with the Briggs trade. Otherwise, we need DE or the young Okoye....

But as my name suggests, at 6 take L2

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 06:09 AM

I know someone will argue against my position above, saying that Branch eats blockers and that his stats are not as important.... well if that is so then take a 6th rounder like Golston to take up space. 1st and 2nd round picks need to make impacts, not just eat space.

I think at this point there are 3 scenarios that would be considered as the FO F-ing up the draft.

#1 has to be trading up for CJ (very unlikely)

#2 trading up for Russell (very unlikley)

#3 drafting Alan Branch

Enuf said. You can retort all you would like Branch supporters, but coming into the combine out of shape, getting winded after 15 plays (reported on same sportscenter show), lack of production on a killer defensive team; there is just only one reason... LAZY - He will be a get paid and not give a F... player.

Posted by: #6NOTBRANCH | April 20, 2007 07:08 AM

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 7:12 AM | Report abuse

JLa,

Tailgating at a Doodlebops concert! Wow, that's hardcore.

WTF with the Doodlebops, anyways. You once busted my chops about Birkner and your taking your kids to freakin Doodlebops concert????

Funny story about Artois, my inlaws took a trip to England and were very diappointed that Budweiser was so expensive there. They were "those" Americans. The ones who go to England and eat McDonald's.

Anyway, they tried Stella and loved it. When they came home they were so disappointed that they weren't ever going to be able to have it again. I think I burst their bubble when I told them they could get it at Big B Liquors in Bryans Road (their hometown). They were so proud of themselves for trying something exotic. It was cute.

Posted by: Larry Bud | April 20, 2007 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Sad about my man LA. Was a beast.

Question: Do you think it would be appropriate to frame his jersey and hang it up with my others (Champ, Williams) in my bar?

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 7:34 AM | Report abuse

JLC I was wondering when you was going to tell the story. I am still laughing at that one.

I think Lavar just needs to hang it up. His body keeps breaking down. It's time to listen to it.

Posted by: jm220 | April 20, 2007 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Ok, PD2/LL2/NTB, I'll jump. Branch didn't have any interceptions either. If your sixth rounder could take up space, Chris Henry of the Titans wouldn't have been able to run for 175 yards against us last year. Go look at the tape; Golston and Montgomery were manhandled one-on-one during the 4th quarter, leaving Marshall and Holdman to fight off blocks and make plays, which they routinely didn't.
As for the combine, I didn't see it; the only thing I can quote from it is the raw numbers:
Branch 326 lbs., 5.07 40 yd., 33 reps @225lbs.
Okoye 305 lbs., 5.07 40 yd., 27 reps @225lbs.

Okoye is a very good player, but he was the best player on their D by a long margin. Every team Michigan played had to put two OL on him every play; even in the USC game, all of Booty's plays in the second half (after they gave up on the run) were rollouts away from Branch's side.
I'm not sayin' he's the guy, just trying to save you from killing yourself if they take him.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Lavar.... this is why you become a student of the game, that when your physical tools start to diminish, your brain gets you to the right spot on the field and your leadership is something a team is willing to place a bet on.
I was not in favor of seeing him go to NYG; I felt that even with a damaged wheel, other teams had to game plan with him in mind. To steal from BASF, He didn't make Warrick Holdman a football player, but he made Warrick Holdman a better sack of potatoes.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 8:05 AM | Report abuse

JM;

Breaking down from HGH???????

I not sayin', I'm just sayin.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 8:12 AM | Report abuse

LL would have the biggest impact on the team. crappy teams with crappy defenses need safeties. they always lead crappy defenses in tackles. having a tandem of two young safeties is ridiculous. how long did we try that with bailey and smoot at cb? like 2-3 seasons before we trade one of the top five nfl defensive players for a top ten running back. If they draft LL they will have the best dime unit in football

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Achilles injuries are not really associated with taking the juice.

Posted by: jm220 | April 20, 2007 8:16 AM | Report abuse

July-August sounds about right for LaVar.

IF he's ready and willing by then, he and Poston will be able to watch the whole league for things like... say, OLB injuries during training camp, especially on contending type teams... and be a phone call away.

If I know LaVar, the fire has not diminished, though the body may have let him down.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Cload;

LOL about Holdman, and very true about the brains.

Now, about Branch. True that peeps were manhandled. I wanted the replay 3 days ago on NFL network. (It was Travis Henry ;))Did the OL get out and block our LB's? I felt like I saw Henry jocking our pourous LB's. This year with the Tackling Machine at MLB, with Marshall moving to weak, our Run D should be better. And from what I saw, they did break down in the end of the game. Griff was hurt for that game.

But the 3 or 4 dt rotation should be able to eat blockers, and instead we should use the #6 pick for someone who has more impact.

But the main point is you DO NOT pick a player at #6 who is just a big guy. We could get Kris Jenkins or Ian Scott for that.

You have to find impact players at #6, and Branch is described as a beast, but a run stuffer/OT distractor is never worth a #6.

So if we really like him, he should be avail after 15 or so, so trade down and pick up extra picks.

About your arguement that Okoye being the only player on his team that was any good, does that speak more to his skill than detract from it? Branch among other good players means he benefits from them, but only getting 25 tackles. Okoye rackin up the numbers while he was most likely Double teamed since, as you say, he was their only good player.

You jumped, but I just dont think your heart was in the arguement.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 8:25 AM | Report abuse

JM;

No they do not. But his other injuries do. And if he is pressing to get back, or over working the tendons, they can snap.

But the body breaking down overall could easily be attributed to the juice. Barry Bonds?

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone think there is too much emphasis on how well these draft picks perform at the combines? Can we really look down on a guy who only runs a 4.45/40 versus another player at the same position who runs a 4.35/40? I mean sure, you do need to show athleticism and all, but you don't have to be the fastest or strongest player in the draft in order to be an elite player. It also takes technique and football smarts. This guy Branch might have only made 25 tackles last year, but I wouldn't doubt if the opposing teams ran away from him 9 out of every 10 plays. I haven't seen tape on him, but I imagine he did what he was supposed to do in that he plugged the line and forced the running back to change direction before the line of scrimmage.

Sorry for rambling, but I think the combines and these "freak" stats are extremely overrated...

Posted by: Skinz | April 20, 2007 8:37 AM | Report abuse

#6DoubleEL no question the other injuries do. In this day and time it is really hard to tell who is taking and who is not taking. I do wish Lavar all the best.

Posted by: jm220 | April 20, 2007 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Maybe I don't remember correctly, (I'm getting older everyday) but didn't we give up a couple of #1(s) for a run stopper named Butz?

Posted by: Disenchanted Fan | April 20, 2007 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Skinz;

I agree the numbers of a combine do not play out. But coming in out of shape says something about you.

And Dwayne Jarrett is a projected mid - to late 1st rounder based upon his 40 time. But WR's with not-so-good 40 times are productive in the NFL. Adn whoever picks up Jarrett will look at him as the 3rd best WR in the draft, but that is based upon times and not skill. He is a TD machine and catches anything thrown his way. Kind of like what we saw in Cooley.

Also the 40 times do not represent route breaks, or running with the ball in your hand with pads on. One CB last year had a 4.5 40. But someone pointed out that when he runs with the ball and pads on, it is still a 4.5, versus a 4.3 guy who runs 4.6 with pads and a ball.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Jason, I broke my pinky toe back in High School, I was doing a cheer barefooted in my bedroom and kicked a chair. It hurt like hell. I feel your pain.

For some reason I could not access the blog last night but it seems no one else had trouble doing so.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Disenchanted;

Back when there were 12 rounds. I actually do not know what we gave up for Butz, and I dont remember if he was that highly touted etc... I dont think Branch is a Dave Butz.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, the difference between 4.35 and 4.45 in the 40 is a mile. That said, I see your point about the combine being overrated.

I would like to think that any scout worth his salt would use the combine as only 1 factor in evaluating a player. Physical tools are important but being a "Football Player" is huge.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

The Doodlebops. Dear God.
On another matter, I need a little guidance. The big interoffice debate of yesterday is whether a person should go to his sister's baby shower in order to hit on the attendees. The person denied, of course, that that was his motive, but we're nothing if not savvy people.
We suggested he go full out -- borrow a child, get a puppy from the shelter and stop by the ATM for a big wad of cash. Oh, and, since he doesn't have a car, rent a Diddy-mobile.
What's the vote of Insider Nation?

Posted by: Cindy | April 20, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

#6DoubleEL--

I don't think you should frame LaVar's jersey. Maybe if he'd stayed healthy, he could have been a player. He made a few good plays, but he was never a team player in a team game. He was out of position more often than he was in position. He doesn't deserve to be next to the men you mentioned -- Champ, Williams. Sorry.

I also have to say the he's not a Redskin. He started out well, but the team went all-in for him and then he came back and peed all over the team and Coach Gibbs in the press. This because of a screw-up by an incompetent agent. If you frame his jersey, it should be his Penn State jersey or his Giants jersey, not his Redskins jersey.

Posted by: KK | April 20, 2007 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Lisa,

I had some trouble last night as well but eventually got on and lurked.

Cyn - Hitting on guests at a baby shower is tough to pull off, but if it's your sister's shower, odds are you know a lot of the guests and have already hit on most of them. His motives could be pure in this matter.

If he is going to work his mojo, however, your suggestions are all fantastic. Maybe he should pick up an outfit at Express Men to wear as well.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Wedding shower is an easy answer, baby shower is a little more difficult. I suppose the Wedding Crashers "target-rich environment" attitude conveys though.
But wouldn't it be easier to offer tutoring outside the sex ed class at the local high school?

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

It is not fair to evaluate players on statistics alone. cload put it best when he said "Branch didn't have any interceptions either." And furthermore, combine numbers are overblown. They should be supplemental data, not defining.

I am a Michigan alum, and watch Michigan football religiously. Alan Branch was a man amongst boys in the trenches. Anyone who looks to his stats alone is completely ignoring the fact that he is a game changer. Opponents averaged 43 yards per game on the ground at less than 2 yards per carry OVER the entire season (including the OSU game and USC bowl game which were a little disastrous to the overall stats).

Why did Alan Branch not have a lot of tackles? Because he had multiple blockers, and they didn't run up the middle. Don't doubt his talent because he doesn't have the statistics. It's not as simple as "I know someone will argue against my position above, saying that Branch eats blockers and that his stats are not as important.... well if that is so then take a 6th rounder like Golston to take up space." It's not just eating space. It's being able to make plays... a 300 pound planter on our D-line ain't gonna accomplish diddly-squat.

And furthermore, how is changing the offensive gameplan of a team "not making an impact"?

Now if you want a REAL reason to doubt him, peep this rumor that's going around:

"Apr 19th (8:27 PM) - There is a rumor spreading around regarding defensive tackle Alan Branch. According to Dan Pompei on Cold Pizza this morning, Branch's draft stock is slipping because he has stress fractures in his leg and teams are taking him off their boards completely because they are unsure if he can hold up through a whole season."

http://www.draftheadquarters.com/page/page/4269113.htm

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | April 20, 2007 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Cindy, I'm thinking most of the single women at a baby shower may be looking for marriage and babies in the near future so if the person you are talking about is on that path, go for it.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Great tip, Etrod. He usually cleans up pretty well, so I didn't think of that. I'll issue a little reminder.
Lisa, I had a little trouble last night, too, with the blog. But I had to morph into a total chick and watch "Grey's Anatomy," so I figured I'd check this morning before I smacked Loseable Type to the back of the head. It does seem to be fine now.
Lots of randoms today before I trot out for a run....
How 'bout that Alec Baldwin rant? While I'm pretty sure I provoked a few rants that would have made my mom look bad, there was never anything like this--she never called me a pig. (I think. I'd have remembered that, right?) This really isn't a surprise, given that he rants all over New York and has for years. Still, he's great on "30 Rock" and elsewhere. They won't fire him, will they? And I don't have to stop watching, do I?
If you get a chance, check out the excerpt from Sally Jenkins' new book in SI. Given your love for the game, I think you'll enjoy it. "The Team That Invented Football."

Posted by: Cindy | April 20, 2007 9:15 AM | Report abuse

"I am a Michigan alum, and watch Michigan football religiously. Alan Branch was a man amongst boys in the trenches."

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | April 20, 2007 09:12 AM

Bucktown,

My Ohio State friends tell me that if there's any man on a Michigan team, he would automatically be "a man among boys." I think they're exaggerating, but that's what they say.

The 'Skins could use Branch. He'd be an upgrade.

Posted by: KK | April 20, 2007 9:17 AM | Report abuse

"I was doing a cheer barefooted in my bedroom and kicked a chair."

Lisa somehow I don't think that one is going to make him feel any better. Unless he was doing a cheer when he was reading the bed time story. lol

Posted by: jm220 | April 20, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

P.S. We told this guy that it's only a matter of time before he's crashing funerals like Chazz.
Oh, and, if Alex Rodriguez is reading this, YOU ARE NOT OFF THE HOOK. IT'S APRIL!!!!!!

Posted by: Cindy | April 20, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I understand the National Father Initiative is rethinking their choices from yesterday.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Cindy - Will the sister's husband/significant other be at the shower? The brother could always use the husband/other as a decoy. "Sure, Bob, I'll come over and hang out with you, mabye drink a few beers, be a "nice" guy and keep you company while your wife is having her shower."

Posted by: Chris | April 20, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

jm220, I guess Jason breaking a toe while reading a bedtime story is pretty lame...still have not figured out how he did it.

As for me, why did I not have shoes on? And I kicked a wooden chair....I was singing our fight song...right at "we never stagger...we never fall" part..when I kicked and fell.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 9:22 AM | Report abuse

I am a big Lavar fan and wish him luck. If he could have stayed healthy he would have been one of the best. He played at his best when he was used right. Thats the one thing I will give Marty and Kurt Schottenheimer they got the best out of Lavar.

Posted by: JT | April 20, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

you don't play NFL football in shorts and and a tee shirt. Teams that get caught up in the hype don't fair to well in the draft.

The best players are driven, play like they have something to prove. that is often something you can't measure at the combine. Now if you get somebody who has the drive and great physical talent well...

allow me to site a few examples

LT ( the original )
LT (the present)
randy white
reggie White
barry sanders
John Elway
Jonathon ogdon

All these guys have two things in Common, first they were labeled can't miss propects and second they didn't miss because they maxed thier physical gifts with a huge drive to make themselves and teams better.

Posted by: Old School | April 20, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if any other dudes will be there. I think the guy's plan is to be the catnip.
And, really, who doesn't like catnip?

Posted by: Cindy | April 20, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

KK, I disagree wholeheartedly. Lavar Arrington was the face and heart of a failing franchise for a few years. Ask anybody on the team, and I guarantee they would say he was a great teammate. Why do you think Antonio Pierce fought like hell to get him on the Giants? Ask any fan in that time period and I CAN tell you for a fact that he was the small bit of constant hope on a dismally poor franchise.

Gibbs came and took that spot as the ray of hope, and rightfully so. They decided that Lavar was not in their future plans. He suffered for this franchise for years and got little respect from a new regime.

And that little screwup was a 6 million dollar screwup, I believe. It was his agent's fault, definitely, but for the Skins to wipe their hands of it and not try to work out an agreement is a little disrespectful to one of their team leaders and supposed franchise players.

No one should tarnish his rep as a Skin. No disrespect meant, but he deserves the respect that he earned while he was here. It may have ended poorly, but that was far from his fault alone. He is and always will be a Skin to me...

HAIL!

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | April 20, 2007 9:25 AM | Report abuse

From what I could see of the Titans game, the DTs left gaps open, and Henry would disappear into a hole, then pop out 8 yards downfield dragging a skin behind him, and fall forward for the 10-15 yard gain. I didn't break down the film like Jaworski, but to me that meant that the LBs were being blocked and couldn't get a clean hit on Henry. It could mean that they were out of position, but particularly on the last two drives there were 11 men in the box, so it was more them pushing us around than anything else.
Okoye was facing 250 lb. college linemen in a second-tier conference; you may not like Big Ten football, but the linemen are much bigger and generally more talented.
I'll say this ... Branch was instrumental in making USC -- for my money the best college team money can buy -- give up on the run in the Rose Bowl.

Now, I was told I could blog at a reasonable volume from nine to eleven; I told Bill that if Sandra is going to listen to her headphones while she's filing then I should be able to blog while I'm collating...

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I understand your point Bucktown. I still cant get over the fact he came into the combine out of shape. Whether it is an injury, or just the fact that he did not think enough to stay in shape, both spell bad news.

We have seen so many DT that were supposed to be great, Ryan Sims comes to mind, playing along players like Julius Peppers, but ended up as busts. Teams can run away from him in college since the ends wont be as good. But what about in the NFL? They will run at him eventually, and will he be able to make the play? Maybe that was part of Primtimes prob here in DC, people started to throw at him after so many years of staying away. He showed that he was not all that great, anymore.

Maybe Branch makes Carter better by taking Double teams, and gives room to LFB to make tackles, but I still say not at 6.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 9:26 AM | Report abuse

It's tough to believe that LaVar isn't finished. In the right system, he was a terrific player. In a system that doesn't take into account the fact that he might make the big play or get beat badly, he can look horrible.
Which strikes at the heart of a big Redskins issue, particularly on defense. Is the scheme more important or are the players? Shouldn't, ideally, a scheme be tweaked to mask/highlight players' deficiences/strengths? You don't just throw guys out there and say, "My scheme works. It's the guys who can't execute."

Posted by: Cindy | April 20, 2007 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Ok did some research. Butz was the 5th player picked in the draft by the Cards. We gave 2 future #1's and a 2 for him. Course that was GA. He didn't like rookies anyway.

Posted by: Disenchanted Fan | April 20, 2007 9:30 AM | Report abuse

The team, our beloved team, screwed LaVar out of millions of bucks in a bonus which he was promised and was subsequently omitted from his contract.

The team didn't attempt to make it right, they guffawed at his agent's ineptitude and rejoiced over pulling a fast one. And LaVar was made to look the fool for not reading the contract, and for having an idiot agent, etc.

(Let me know if I'm getting any of this wrong.)

This conduct was reprehensible on the part of the team! Intentional or not, they broke a promise to the face of the franchise, and they did nothing to remedy it.

What should have been a happy situation -- the team's BIGGEST star getting a new contract -- instead became a protracted fight, a cloud of negativity around the team. Thanks, front office.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

I like big Butz.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Cload;

Mr. Lumbergh told me to talk to payroll and then payroll told me to talk to Mr. Lumbergh and I still haven't received my paycheck and he took my stapler and he never brought it back and then they moved my desk to storage room B and there was garbage on it...

And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and they were merry, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire...

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Cindy, that's why I don't see Grilliams as a Genius. He doesn't maximize his players abilities, his players maximize his defense's potential. When he lost key players his defense tanked and he couldn't make the adjustments.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Is the scheme more important or are the players? Shouldn't, ideally, a scheme be tweaked to mask/highlight players' deficiences/strengths? You don't just throw guys out there and say, "My scheme works. It's the guys who can't execute."

Cyn Cyty that is the reason double G should have been shown the door. Reaching under my desk and picking up the hammer. Smack to the back of his damn head.

Posted by: jm220 | April 20, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

jm220,

I think you smacked J-la's toe with the hammer and he's making up the bedtime story thing to cover for you poor aim.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

There it is! We haven't seen that in weeks. I was beginning to wonder if jm's hammer-swinging arm was out of shape. Thank goodness, that looked like mid-season form.

But seriously, jm, I know you hope like the rest of us that Grilliams overcomes his own considerable shortcomings, wraps up in a big ACE bandage to minimize those man-boobs and gets this D back to '04/'05 form!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

I agree, Etrod. I do think that Gregg Williams is a brilliant defensive coach. But it seems to me that coaching isn't just having a brilliant scheme. It's adjusting, constantly adjusting: to your players, to the other team, to game situations...You'd think he'd get the defense right again this year, particularly with London Fletcher here.

Posted by: Cindy | April 20, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Bucktown--

The 'Skins gave LaVar a huge second contract, and they gave it to him before they had to. The owner saw him, like you, as the face of the 'Skins. They went all-in for him. Suffered for the franchise? The way the 'Skins treated him was hardly "suffering."

And when LaVar's agent screwed up, the 'Skins split the difference, giving him $3 million that was not in the contract. LaVar's agent was suspended because of his incompetence, and LaVar still went on complaining about the 'Skins.

Posted by: KK | April 20, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Nate -- I don't know what, if anything, you got wrong -- but having NO insight to the details, I could just as easily spin it as the Skins looking at the "revised" contract provisions and thinking that the Postons/Lavar were dropping the $6M in order to get the deal done, and that was the basis of the agreement.
"Oops, we forgot to add the $6M back in" is where you get your lawyers to talk to the agent's lawyers, not the team's.

Now -- let's say that the team prepares the contract and they "forgot" the $6M, but the final negotiation had included it, then that goes on the skins. But is that really what happened? I doubt the arbitrator would've made the same decision if that were the case.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

When LaVar's agent screwed up? The Skins' front office committed the original sin, THEY (intentionally or not) omitted a bonus that was part of the handshake agreement. Everything that followed stemmed from that omission!

Yes, the agent should have caught the omission before signing, but I can't stress enough that the team caused this and did nothing to rectify the situation.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

A prime example of not adjusting would be the playoff loss to Seattle.

They put everything into stopping Shaun Alexander and then when he went down, they kept on playing the run and let Hasselbeck pick them apart.

Oye.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Etrod - It also didn't help that our offense was a no show against Seattle...

Posted by: Skinz | April 20, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

cindy

you can't flip flop to fit the players you need to have players who fit your scheme.Double G has proven over and over that his defense's more often than not are something that most ofenses would rather not face.The first 2 years we had a very good collection of parts meaning the players had confidence in the scheme and each other and played with that collective confidence because they feed off each other. but we still lacked the impact player to put us from a real good to great.

last year it fell apart,I won't rehash, but in general we had a bad collection of guys and because of the factors injuries/personell etc etc the confidence in each other, the swagger all good teams have was gone, replaced by false confidence ( all that coach/ player speak bout yeah we still believe in other,and the coaches) yeah right.

Oh and we are still looking for the impact player that makes everybody better ( the confidence (real)part)

Posted by: Old School | April 20, 2007 9:53 AM | Report abuse

KK, I'm your employer, and we have a good relationship. I value you as an employee. I offer to give you a 6 million dollar bonus in your new contract, which in effect, secures you for my company until retirement.

In the course of creating the contracts, I leave that 6 million dollar bonus, that we agreed to, out of the legalese. Your lawyer/rep doesn't catch it, but tells you everything looks good, and you sign.

I agreed to the 6 million, but didn't put it in the contract, and now I'm supposed to be happy and content when you offer me 3 million? That makes zero sense. None.

No one is letting Carl Poston (I think it was Poston) off the hook here. He screwed up royally. But the Skins didn't make it right. They profited off of their own mistake and Poston's mistake and Lavar got screwed. Period.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | April 20, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Cindy, I have no advice for the baby shower guy, but I would guess that Lisa is right on. At weddings, at least some of the single ladies are 'vulnerable' because they get love on the brain.

I would think that baby showers evoke a different version of the same vulnerability. He should bring a nice clean hankie in case some poor childless waif needs a shoulder to cry on, that sort of thing. Especially if it's a larger group in a setting such as a larger house with a few breakout rooms available. You know what I'm sayin.'

And he needs to bring a preposterously cute gift befitting the doting uncle, devoted brother, and spendthrift single guy. Like a four-foot-tall teddy bear, a painting he did himself, or a pony.

And the sister angle is huge. If this dude's been paying attention over the years -- and I would guess he has -- he already has pegged some of the sister's friends as 'possibilities' and can act accordingly.

Party on, dude.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 9:55 AM | Report abuse

PDLLNTB (your name uses a character set my keyboard doesn't support), if Branch came into the combine out of shape, how did he match Okoye's 40 time AND outbench him? Does that mean he would've really been able to bench 45 @225? If so, I'll take him at 92% because he still benches Portis (@220 or so) a half dozen more times.

If you want snarky commentary on workout numbers, note that Okoye ran a 4.8 something at his pro day workout. Impressive? Yes. But -- he didn't lift that day. So let's assume he decided to get that 40 time down; a month of diet and speed work, and he shaves an incredible .2 off the 40 time, but at the expense of muscle mass -- and is down at the Jarvis Moss/Gaines Adams 15 @225 lame-a$$ bench numbers.

But both of them use swingline staplers...

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Etrod LMAO! No I didn't hit JLC toe. When he told me the story I thought it was the steps again. lol

Cyn Cyty I don't have any faith in double G putting the team before his ego.

Posted by: jm220 | April 20, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Nate--

LaVar and his agent claimed there was a handshake $6 million bonus. To my knowledge the 'Skins have never conceded this point.

But, in any event, the 'Skins did split the difference. They put $3 million in, which they didn't have to do. They met the man half-way. And he, after they did, continued to trash them.

And LaVar has never acknowledged that he and his incompetent agent were two boneheads for not reading a contract before signing it. These are two truly dim bulbs.

Posted by: KK | April 20, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

It's funny and interesting to read the differing opinions on guys we could be selecting in the draft. I wonder if Snyder, Ceratto, Gibbs and Williams are in the same boat or are right in line with each other. One more week to speculate and one more week for me at least to hope these Briggs talks don;t come back into play.

#6DL - I got 2 signed Skins jerseys. Portis and Lavar. Got Portis up but refused to have Lavar while he was with the Gmen. He was a great player for us from 2000-2003.

At least JLC didn't have his pinky toe severed by a street sweeper like Kramers one girlfriend that Seinfeld heckled at her office.

Posted by: cdubb | April 20, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I'm picturing Jim Brown's throbbing toe from I'm gonna get you sucka.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Bucktown--

The 'Skins split the difference with the man. They weren't required to. You keep ignoring that. They did try to accomodate the man.

With "verbal agreements" there are always the possibility of misunderstandings. Only the people in the room know what was said, and even they may have heard things differently or remembered them differently. That's why, particularly with $6 million, you put it in writing. And then you read what is written, before signing, not after. Not just your agent, but you personally. Don't they teach anything at Penn State U?

Posted by: KK | April 20, 2007 10:04 AM | Report abuse

If the concert was at FedEx, you couldn't start tailgating until 8:30 (lots only open up fours hours early)

Posted by: jbr | April 20, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Agree to disagree.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy | April 20, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Sorry CLoad;
Agree to disagree;

I will never want a kid who only gave his 92%. No way, no how.

Also, 40 times mean nothing for Dlineman.

Branch: He ran his two 40s in 5.07 and 5.08 and also recorded a 27½-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-11 long jump and 33 bench presses. At Michigan's Pro Day, he had a 4.79 short shuttle and 7.56 three-cone drill

Okoye:40-yard dash, posting a time of 5.07, and didn't do the short shuttle. He did do 29 bench presses and worked out again at Louisville's Pro Day, running under 5.00 in the 40 and recording a 4.44 short shuttle

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

My vague recollection is that the $6M was initially supposed to be transferred from the original contract over to the renegotiated contract, and the center of the dispute was that dropping that requirement was part of the negotiation. If that's not the case, wouldn't Poston be able to provide some evidence? After all, he got F-ed by the union as a result, didn't he?

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Lavar was the the public face, but not the on field face of the skins. that was his biggest short comming, I have posted before he could lead the team on the field because the other 10 guys couldn't trust him to be were he was supposed to be. sometimes he delivered the the big hit and I know that fired everyone up and more often that that he would go for the big hit and miss ( I can still TO running a reverse when he was with SF, lavar had a free shot in the back field goes for the knockout misses TO reverses field 55yds TD stupid endzone dance thankyou. A nice wrap up and its a five yard loss, urlacher makes it dawkins makes it john lynch makes it see what i mean.. and I don't even have to mention how 3rd 5's where the back in flat was his man and he would half commit to blitz before awakening to the fact that the guy who just past him was his I'm watching on tv i can see it.

Its more that than getting on jacked up, its about being in the right place and making the plays especially in the clutch....sean T is in the same place right now, We need a little less Lavar and more Ed Reed

Posted by: Old School | April 20, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I'm not ignoring that fact. I'm saying that the final number is irrelevant if they agreed to a different number in negotiations. Lavar and Poston both claimed that was the agreement, and the Skins (to my knowledge) did not deny it. Of course they would never admit it. That would be an admission of wrong doing. Do you think he got 3mil as compensation just for showing up to arbitration? No. It was a compromise for the Skins screwup, and his agent's screwup. The bottom line here is that he got screwed through no fault of his own other than trusting his team to follow through on the terms discussed, and his agent to do his job competently.

Legally, the Skins were in the right... of course. No one is arguing that. The fact is though Lavar had a right to be pissed.

Penn State U? First of all, PSU is a good institution, but I went to a better one... Michigan. I learned a lot of great things there.

But my family taught me to always mean what I say, and follow through on my promises. It's called being a decent human being. If that doesn't translate to your business ethics, then I feel sorry for those that meet you in a board room, and hope to never do business with you.

That is unless I am offering you half of what I originally promised you for your services. At least I know you will be happy about that "accommodation."

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | April 20, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Levar has had three or four consecutive injuries to one of his wheels. It may be best for him to sit out until september or so and spend this year auditioning for next year. His body needs the rest.----------------------------------------------------------- Dude, be a daddy first and foremost. forget all the crap of being the man. You have a daughter, so you have to do tea parties. forget the macho, and be a father to your kids. Your job is to make sure they are happy and secure.

Posted by: RobGreg | April 20, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Not to beat a dead horse...

NFL players are always saying "Football, it's a business". So, Lavar should have acted like a professional and conceded that a contract is a contract. Whether it included the "agreed upon" $6M or not, it's still binding and part of the "business."

Posted by: Skinz | April 20, 2007 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Ouch!

Posted by: Dead Horse | April 20, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Wait... No one was a bigger LaVar fan when he was with the Skins than me, HOWEVER, he threw anyone and everyone under the bus when he left. Chose to go to a div. rival so "he could meet the Redskins twice a year". Held on to his play book and gave it to the Giants. I feel the same about LaVar as I do the "fans" that bash EVERYTHING the Skins do. (the fans that post their names as "usetobeskins fan" or "disenchantedfan") See ya - wouldn't want to be ya!

What makes true Skins fans/players are the ones that stick with you through thick and thin. I know that other Skins greats have left and even went to rivals, the diffence is they didn't bash the organization and at some point return to the Skins, Monk,Mitchell, even freaking Babe didn't bash the Skins and he works for the Cowboys. Sorry you got injuried Lavar, you WERE a great Redskin, but the way you left, without class and integrity, as far as I am concerned you won't be missed.

Posted by: Hail to 'em | April 20, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Bucktown--

I'm sure they also taught you at U Michigan, and probably your parents before that, that once you sign a contract you've given your word and you live by it. Once you sign it, you're given up your "right to be pissed." That was the agent jacking up LaVar to divert attention from his own shortcomings.

Posted by: KK | April 20, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Cload, Amobi, weighed 287 at the Senior Bowl, and then 302 for the Combine, and 301 for his Pro-Day workout at Louisville. So he definetly didn't do as you stated he did, and lose weight to get faster. He put on roughly 15 pounds and got faster.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | April 20, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Unless you're intoxicated when you sign a contract...

Posted by: Skinz | April 20, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Hail to 'em--

Well put. I'd forgotten about that playbook incident. But my recollection was that Brian Mitchell (a Schottenheimer victim) actually was pretty bitter for a while and his reconciliation was a big deal.

In any event, I take it that you don't think anyone should frame LaVar's Redskin jersey and hang it next to Doug's or Champ's, right?

Posted by: KK | April 20, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

PDLLNTB, we joke about the 92%. But how do you reconcile Branch's numbers with the RUMINT about his conditioning?
All I can tell you is that I saw him play, and I see his numbers, and they both say to me that he is an elite athlete, and a superior athlete to Okoye.
Doesn't make him the automatic right choice, or the best choice; maybe Okoye has intangibles that the skins need, maybe Branch isn't mature, maybe Landry likes little boys. Maybe. It's just bizarre to believe one set of information that's totally unverifiable when there's other data out there. That's the kind of thing that causes land wars in Europe, or invasions of Iraq.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

It should be noted that Lavar took the high road last season when Lindsay and Springs jumped at the chance to rip him. That took class.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

JLaC:

I sprained my knee shooting pool once. I understand how you feel.

If you're in touch with The Beast, tell him to start blogging the rehab and the comeback. Once a Redskin, always a Redskin. Good luck to him.

Posted by: Cruzer | April 20, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I would hang up a Lavar jersey before a Champ jersey. He wanted out and didn't even want to give the skins a chance to offer him a deal. He's the best CB in the league by a mile, but F Champ.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Didn't say Okoye had to lose weight, just upper body muscle mass -- jm220 would be better to describe the details, but with this much money at stake, there's a lot you can do to/with the human body in a reasonably short amount of time.

Anyhoo, my MAIN POINT is that some idiot (me, in this case) can put up some lame half-a$$ed wild speculation in a freakin' blog somewhere, and by next week Okoye will be in the second round because RUMINT has it that he can't bench 20x225.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

KK, I agree "that once you sign a contract you've given your word and you live by it."

But to say that the dude doesn't have the right to be pissed about it and upset is just delusional. As far as I can remember, he did live with it. He played until he got injured and couldn't anymore.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on this one. Let me just say that I am happy he is no longer in a Giants uni. Now I can take a break from my Cooley jersey and revisit my Arrington jersey every once in a while with pride.

HAIL!

True story: I have a buddy with a Skip Hicks jersey. Yeah that's right Clinton Hill... I'm talking about you.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | April 20, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I am all for framing and hanging up any Redskins player. Its still history and when he was a Skin he played his a$$ off. My Dad has a Redskin room where he has EVERYTHING Redskins, couch, chairs, and the walls are filled with autographs of current and past Skins. (He actually still has Gus's picture hung upside down, from when he head butted the stadium wall) Lindsay was a jerk and should have been more professional, but Lavar DIDN'T take the high road, that is when he mentioned that he still had the playbook and he had passed it on.

True about Brian Mitchell, but as everyone ones he did come home.

Posted by: Hail to 'em | April 20, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Well, to each his own, but I don't recall that Champ ever had a bad word to say about the 'Skins (publicly), and he gave the 'Skins a chance to resign him. The 'Skins didn't want to pay him market value and traded him for Portis.

They got nothing for LaVar who trashed them and given away their playbook.

Posted by: KK | April 20, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Do you think anyone in the league doesn't keep their playbook when they go to a new team? Champ didn't trash the Skins because he was to busy talking about himself.

I interviewed Champ in 2000 at a radio station I was working for. I asked him what Darrell Green had shared with him about playing CB in the NFL and he said "Nothing I don't already know"

F Champ.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

F Champ and Tony Romo (I just can't stand him is the only reaso I included him)

Posted by: Hail to 'em | April 20, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

etrod,

I take it you're nearly recovered now from your week of Exchange Administration? Was Champ one of the speakers?

Just think how good Champ could have been if he'd actually learned something from Darrell.

F Exchange Administration

Posted by: KK | April 20, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Anyone catch the interviews on Comcast last night with a few of the Redskins players? Sellers apparently dropped 30 pounds in hopes of more carries this year. Then he ripped on Betts about how much more he can bench press than him. Pretty hilarious.

Posted by: CC | April 20, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Believe That!

I haven't recovered--just stopped paying attention.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Here's a stupid question: what real value does another team's playbook hold? Is it about specific plays and schemes, or the terminology, or what?

Does the receiving team, after delivery of said playbook, have a squad of analysts break it down? Does the coaching staff go through it page by page, with the new player under a spotlight, interrogated Gestapo-style?

And most importantly, is there any definitive proof that any team's 'having the other team's playbook' contributed to defeating that other team?

I would guess our paid-training-camp experiment (opposing team scouts, welcome! your money is just as green as our fans'!) directly contributed to more losses for us that season than any supposed playbook stealing has.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

There is nothing in a playbook that opposing teams don't already know from watching film.

Posted by: etrod | April 20, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Unless you're intoxicated when you sign a contract...

Posted by: Skinz | April 20, 2007 10:33 AM
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Or, under the influence of some good Mary Jane... I'm just sayin'... (I really am...LOL)

Posted by: JustMe | April 20, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

DIsagree etrod;

The name of the play could come in handy. If the O overhears LM saying Dog Left, or whatever, and LeVar or the playbook told them what that was, and Grilliams was stupid enough to not change the name after LA went to the G-Men, Tiki knew to cut back to the middle.

That is a lot of if's, but Grilliams is most likely that Arrogant.

Also, I really dont know if they call plays or signal them. If the signals dont change, then yes, game film is all they need.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

When did "a big guy that takes up space" become worth the #6 pick? a big guy that makes plays (aka Sapp) is worth the #6 pick. Branch is not a #6 pick!!! If they move back to the middle of the round then fine, but not at #6.

Besides, I watched several Michigan games this year and never noticed him. Not a good sign...

Posted by: BT | April 20, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

CC - I saw it. The funnest statement was from Smoot, who said he was trying to LOSE weight.

Mike Sellers comment to that was Smoot would be bulimic if he lost any more weight.

Posted by: BT | April 20, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I've got no problem with the skins taking Branch, especially if they can move back get an extra pick and do so. If not, even taking him at #6. I caught the radio guys (one's a huge Big 10 follower - Wisconsin alum) out here talking about Branch last night and they think he'll be a star in the league. As far as him just occupying space - a dominant DT will draw double teams that make it easier for the LB's, DE's and Griffin/Golston next to him to make plays. So even if he doesn't get a lot of sacks/tackles he may make it easier for the players around him to do so. DT's may not make SportsCenter highlights every week but they are VITAL to a good D. Jacksonville's got a great defense and it all starts with their dominant DT's, Henderson and Stroud. Most great defenses start with dominant DT's up front. As far as Branch having stress fractures - that's where the skins doctors need to earn their money and separate the BS from the truth.

Posted by: skinswest | April 20, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of Comcast, why would they ask Jason Campbell if he would welcome another quarterback??? What a ridiculous question. Of course, he wouldn't when he still has Mark Brunell breathing down his neck. And, most fans wouldn't welcome another quarterback either if it wasn't just a developmental player to add to the roster once Brunell or Collins are put out to pasture.

Posted by: JustMe | April 20, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS SENARIO...

DRAFT.

PICK 1 RUSSELL TO RAIDERS
PICK 2 QUINN TO LIONS

NOW REDSKINS TRADE UP. GIVE THE BROWNS THE 6TH PICK AND BETTS FOR THE 3RD PICK AND A 3 ROUNDER??

PICK 3 CALVIN JOHNSON TO REDSKINS....

Posted by: GREG | April 20, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

In 1975, the Washington Redskins made a trade with the St. Louis Cardinals for a 6-foot-5, 300-plus pound defensive tackle who had been a former high No. 1 draft pick, but had a reputation as an underachiever. They paid for Dave Butz by giving the Cardinals a pair of No. 1 draft choices.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

skinswest - agree with you on the importance of a dominant DT. disagree with you on Branch being a beast. Hopefully our front office will be able to make a good call on that (although I am not sure about that). When I look at Branch, I just can't get visions of Gerrard Warren out of my head...

Posted by: BT | April 20, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Justme, I saw Comcast asked Campbell that question. He handled it very well. Really liked what he said afterward - something to the effect that Redskins fans have a lot to be excited about in 07-08.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Greg - The Lions would never take Quinn straight up over CJ. If CJ is available and they don't want him, they'll trade down before drafting someone else.

Posted by: Skinz | April 20, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

GREG - Your scenerio has been discussed and shti on in this blog. Why give up Betts? Why draft a WR?

Posted by: BT | April 20, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

THE LIONS ARE VERY INTERESTED IN QUINN. SIRIUS AND ADAM SHEIN HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT. AS FAR AS WHY WE NEED JOHNSON. WELL, A BIG RECIEVER WOULD HELP OUT JASON A LOT. IF WE GOT A 3RD ROUNDER WE COULD GET SOME D HELP AND BETTS IS A LUXURY.. I AM A BIG FAN OF TAKING GAINES ADAMS BUT YOU DON'T PASS UP ON A CALVIN JOHNSON IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE HIM.

Posted by: GREG | April 20, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Greg - The Lions might like Quinn...but they sure as h*ll would be stupid to take him in the #2 slot when they can take him a few picks later!

Posted by: Skinz | April 20, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Nate, on America's Game: The Baltimore Ravens, Trent Dilfer talked about his playbook disappearing after a game (can't remember the team they played against). Anyway, Baltimore played the same team in the playoffs and Trent said they knew EVERYTHING he tried to do....he then remembered losing his playoff book and seemed to think it has something to do with it.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

The Browns WILL take Quinn if he is there at 3 so the Lions won't be able to move down to get him.

Posted by: GREG | April 20, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

>>> "whether a person should go to his sister's baby shower in order to hit on the attendees"

The only place where flirting is gauche is at a funeral. The dude should go for it. I live in the Pacific Northwest, where all the women are repressed and hostile, to say nothing of "matronly". It's slim pickin's out here and you gotta take every opportunity you can get. Besides, you can't stop my charm and sophistication, you can only hope to contain it.

As for LA...really sad for the guy. He was definitely a fan favorite, and without belaboring the point, I think he got something of a bum deal here, and bad luck everywhere. But as all the players like to say, "The NFL is a business".

Wow, I got a bit carried away with the tequila and champagne last night. A wee bit fragile this morning...

Posted by: P Diddy | April 20, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Gotta say...the only thing I'm excited about for this upcoming season is Jason Campbell and Big Al's offense coming together. It's a completely unpredictable League, so it's entirely conceivable that the 'Skins could go 12-4, or 4-12. You just can't tell anymore.

Posted by: P Diddy | April 20, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

The Lions will look even more stupid when they trade down and then someone jumps in front of them to get Quinn. Then Matt Millen will draft Dwayne Jarrett and call it a day. It sucks being a Skins fan many times but I am real glad I don't have a rooting interest in that train wreck.

Posted by: cdubb | April 20, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Lisa,

Yeah, I liked his response as well. But, you could tell he was a bit taken aback to even be asked such a thing.

Most other young quarterbacks in the league can go into their first year as starter feeling pretty secure that the job is theirs, and they can be fully optimistic that it will continue to be theirs if they play well. For whatever reason, people seem to want to rob Campbell of that security and undermine his confidence from the beginning.

Fortunately, it seems that he is a confident kid. So, hopefully all of this silly stuff will just add to his mental toughness rather than distract him. But, if I was him, I would be supremely annoyed that I had to answer those type questions.

Posted by: JustMe | April 20, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

"Besides, you can't stop my charm and sophistication, you can only hope to contain it."

P Diddy, good to hear your voice (read: see your witticisms). I've been in and out of this place sporadically for a while now so I feel like it's been some time.

Champagne and tequila? That's almost as bad as the "Dom and chicken wings" phase... championed by the 69 Boyz and Hooters.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | April 20, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

F Tampa

Pick Branch

No to LL

F Dallas

Posted by: ES | April 20, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

diddy

the line is between good and not to good is pretty thin so its the 20 or so teams in the middle that jockey for the low divsion winner/wildcard contender each year. thats how we get 10 or so teams with couple of weeks left that some shot at post season patcipation.

first you need to consistently stay near the top of this group. Then the trick is to get to where your at the next level where you say are going for home field advantage every year. that group has wider gap on the 20 or so teams in the middle.

Posted by: Old School | April 20, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Quinn is not worth #2 money and how is he going to help the Lions defense? 28th overall last year (w/ Bly). I think Detroit fans would rather see the Lions address the D and pick up a QB in another round or through a trade.

Posted by: Skinz | April 20, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

although The NFC is so weak it could be anybody's race.

Posted by: Old School | April 20, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell won't be successful in the NFL until he learns to say "Next question!" without blinking.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Hitting on gals at a baby shower? Hells yeah. Gof for it. That's how I met Lauren ... Okay, not really but I say if you are man enough to actually attend a baby shower in the first place, then by all means you gots to go for the gusto. Godspeed you baby-exploiting trailblazer, whoever you are.

As for the Doodlebops, I am banking on a severe headache and a long afternoon, but it's the cross I will gladly bear. Chloe has been walking around the house signing their theme song for he last week and asking to watch their TV show all the time, and she's been through a lot with the arrival of her baby brother, so I figured a good daddy/Chloe surprise was in order. I promise to write a full concert review Monday. Wonder what they'll play for their encore?

Want to know the most sickening part? I ponied up to a broker to get third row seats (floor seats at the Patriot Center show were going ofr $130 each!!!). So of course between every song I will screaming "Play Free Bird!" loud enough for all in my section to hear. Hope they take requests.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | April 20, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Lions definately need defensive help. I see the picking Adams @ #2

Peterson Falls past Cle, TB, Ari to us. Then either Houston, GB, or Buff come calling.

Then it gets interesting. I am getting hyped up to the point where I briefly thought this weekend was the draft. Knew it wasn't, but got lost in my convo I was having w a co-worker and asked what he was doing for the draft this weekend./

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I almost entirely agree with ES' post. We really shouldn't pick Landry at 6 even if he is a stud. There are 3 other stud safeties in this draft that we could pick in the middle-end of the first round. Maybe not quite as great, but we can get better value and more picks if we want a safety.

If we stay at 6, we have to go DL. In that case, Okoye is tops on most lists outside of Adams (who appears to not be an option at this point).

Posted by: Chris | April 20, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Give me the second coming of John Randle who is okoye over a player who will eventually become one of many 330+lbs free agent high draft pick DT journeymen over their carreer. No way we pick Branch.

Posted by: stick75 | April 20, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"Chloe has been walking around the house signing their theme song for he last week"

Jason - does this mean you have been hiding Jamaal Anderson at your house, in advance of the Redskins drafting him?

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

JLC, last night I gave myself a nice concert gift. I introduced a buddy of mine (a CA guy) to GoGo. A $20 ticket and a 2 drink minimum was a ridiculously low price to pay for a table at the foot of the stage to see Chuck Brown and the Soul Searchers last night at Joe's Pub in Manhattan (right by Astor Place, LES).

Unbelievable show. Absolutely one of the best live performances by a band that I have ever been to. They started with a warmup a little after 11:30PM, and didn't stop until it was over, 90 minutes later. The dance floor did the same.

I got to meet Chuck after the show, shake his hand and thank him. He is a genuinely gracious person.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | April 20, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Bucktown Skins Fan you could have let a brother know.

Posted by: jm220 | April 20, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Jason, I will be there as well on Sunday at Doodlepalooza. I know how you feel, I am completely dreading it but also very excited for my daughter. Never thought of tailgaiting, but maybe that's the way to go. I'll bring the Guinness and we can make some black and tans. We can blast some old Verve and Oasis songs (since I know you like the brit-rock) from our systems and act like hooligans while our wives stand by in horror!

Posted by: Ed from Silver Spring | April 20, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Detroit apparently loves Adams and has met with him 3 times already i believe. They would take him at #4 it sounds like, and may even take him at #2.

Then again, that FO is about as bad as they come, so predicting their moves isnt easy.

Posted by: Jon | April 20, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

jm220, my sincerest apologies. I actually did not know about the show until 9AM yesterday morning. My girlfriend is a HUGE music fan so she gets emails from all the venues. She saw it in her inbox and immediately emailed it to me.

She of course refused to go because she can't handle gogo. She's a pacific northwestern girl so she likes punk, alt and alt-rock. I do too, but you CANNOT replace GoGo in the heart of a kid who was born and raised in DC.

So again, my apologies. Next time, I'll know to get an extra seat on that table reservation.

He F-ing killed it last night... tore it up. And his daughter, who is a rapper, came up and did a song with him, called "Chuck Baby." Her name is KK...

...wait a minute. Have I been arguing with baby Chuck all morning? KK?

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | April 20, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

My 2 cents on the "guy at the baby shower" idea:

Don't do it, Buddy! It sends way too many signals that can be misinterpreted. Better that you should lurk outside, find the vehicle of someone you are interested in, let the air out of one of her tires, and then swoop in at closing time to save the day.

But if you insist on actually attending, here is a workable plan.

1) Prearrange with Sis to deliver the cake fashionably late. She can do the verbal setup after the guests arrive as appropriate..
2) Slightly underdress for the occasion - business casual will do.
3) After arriving and making small talk, don't join in. Hang around in the next room, somewhat inconspicuously. (Maybe you can use Sis's computer to sign up for e-Harmony - lol)
4) Check with Sis at the next break if there appear to be any interested parties. If so, stick around. If not, bail.
5) If no success, check the daily obits for promising future leads.

Good luck!

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

JLa,

I ain't hatin', bro. I have been to Barney concerts, Dora and Diego live shows and a kids music all-star jamboree where the big all-star was the guy from Mamas and Papas that just died.

He sang the song from Theodore the tug boat and left.

I'd pay $130 for 3rd row at a Birkner concert. She doesn't tour now that she had a kid and may not be as hot either, but I'd throw my boxers on stage for her.

Hey Diddy, did you get your wine orders fiured out? I was going to recommend an old vine zinfadel that I tried last week called Bogle. It was nice.

Posted by: Larry Bud | April 20, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I like big Butz.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 09:34 AM


this is a blog for adults and other mature people, please don't use that unaccepatble language aymore, thank you in advance for honoring my request.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Imagine being a Lions fan - you wouldn't even be able to talk smack about the Redskins FO.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Jason,

I too will be attending the Doodlebops concert at 12:30 Sunday with my wife and two kids. If the kids have fun, which I'm sure they will, then its all worth it.

Posted by: Rusty | April 20, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Stick 75 - If the folks at Redskins Park think Okoye is the next Randle, it's a no brainer. You don't even entertain most trade-down options at that point. Someone would really have to pony up.

Posted by: Chris | April 20, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey anonymous person - go hang out at the Doodlebops blog. You'll fit in better there.

Posted by: Chuck B. | April 20, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Jason, please confirm or deny that the Skins brought in Tedd Ginn, Jr. for a private workout with Jason Campbell on hand. If this is in the paper and I have simply missed it, I apologize.

Anyhoo, me no likey the sound of that.

Posted by: Wes Mantooth | April 20, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"this is a blog for adults and other mature people, please don't use that unaccepatble language aymore, thank you in advance for honoring my request."

I don't undersatnd how it's immature to comment on the size of Dave Butz. He was a man of large carriage and I don't believe he was ashamed of that fact. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that he was indeed proud of his girth and saw it as one of his finest attributes.

So I would say this to you, Mr. Anonymous Poster, FIE! And a pox upon thee for insinuating that one should be ashamed of how God created him!

I would request that you refrain from such insinuations in the future. And, really, thank you in advance.

Posted by: Larry Bud | April 20, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Bringing in Tedd Ginn, Jr. for a workout would be a smart "draft business" move. The guy has been injured and missed all the public workouts.

Better is to have a QB that can actually throw the ball to him. Wouldn't make much sense to have Brunell there and watch a speed guy run dink'n'dunk patterns.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Anyone up for happy hour today? I was thinking steak dinner, baked potato, and a couple beers.

Posted by: JJ | April 20, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Unless, of course, it was a West Coast-style dink'n'dunk offense.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

>>> "If no success, check the daily obits for promising future leads."

Awesome idea! Hahaha!

Posted by: P Diddy | April 20, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

JJ - you need to hook up with the lunch guy here (DaveB?). Sounds like you guys might have a lot in common.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Just saw highlights of the top DE/DT prospects on CNN/SI.com - yeah it's a really slow day today. I know they're subjective and don't tell the whole story, but based on just what I saw Gaines Adams was the most impressive followed by Branch and Okoye. Adams was fast, athletic as hell, and made plays. Sounds like he won't be there at #6 anyway, but if he is, the skins gotta take him or trade down.

Posted by: skinswest | April 20, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Where is Chris Larry?

Posted by: jm220 | April 20, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

and dcsween must studying tape of high school jr's in preperation for the 2012 draft.

Posted by: Old School | April 20, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

A random thought about Alan Branch - if he looked like "a man among boys" while playing at Michigan, how will he do when he is "a man among men" in the NFL?

To me, it sounds like he could be "just another guy" at the next level.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Crickets...

Posted by: Skinz | April 20, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand the fascination on some of your parts with adding another WR to our roster through the draft. We currently have a full stable at that position. Where we need help is on defense. Immediate help on the DLine/Secondary is of the utmost importance this draft. Calvin Johnson does not automatically turn us into a contender. A healthy Clinton Portis, Pierson Prioleau, Marcus Washingon & more experienced Jason Campbell, Carlos Rogers, Brandon Lloyd do. DRAFT LANDRY or OKOYE!

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 20, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Following that logic, it may also mean that at the next level, Amobi Okoye might be nothing more than "a boy among men". That's not a pleasant prospect for a #6 pick.

Laron Landry is the only choice worthy of the #6 pick.

Trade down for whatever is available if you are determined to take a defensive lineman. Use the trade value chart as a guide - not as a "bible". (Choosing a solid DE at #9 or #12 plus getting 3rd and 4th round picks from Miami or a 2nd round pick from Buffalo is better than wasting a #6 pick on a DT.)

However, swapping first round picks with the Broncos requires THREE additional picks - their 2nd and 3rd round picks and our former 3rd round pick. Anything less from them is UNACCEPTABLE.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I need my lawn mowed, any of you available?

Posted by: CK | April 20, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Who wants to help me hang a big sign on the Redskins front gates in Ashburn late tonight?

"Calvin Johnson is the next Desmond Howard"

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Random Question: Why is Todd Collins still on our roster?

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 20, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

If the Redskins find a way to grab Calvin Johnson in the draft, I am going to start hanging around at baby showers beginning in September.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell - Redskins' fans safety blanket
Mark Brunell - Joe Gibbs' safety blanket
Todd Collins - Al Saunders' safety blanket
Casey Bramlet - Vinny Ceratto's safety blanket

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Otter; Agreed on the Broncos potential trade.

Problem is the team that comes calling for that trade always loses. It puts us in a position to get screwed. We might get 2 extra picks after their first. Unless we pony up Springs (Lisa faints)....

So we need to stay put at 6 and wait for teams to call us, so for once we can stick it to them. The Broncos are secretly in love with AP, so if he falls, that might be who they are targeting. They need LB help, but Willis is not a top 10 pick.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Jimmy Buffett from the front row of the Crawford boxes tomorrow at Minute Maid Park!

(Sorry guys - my kids are in their teens!)

Posted by: John D in Houston | April 20, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I absolutely agree - the Redskins management should not be making calls on Draft Day. They should only be accepting calls from interested parties. If no one calls, stay at #6 and take Landry.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Nevermind, they have T Henry, I forgot. The need DL or WR. And they still have Bly so Lisa can dust herself off.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Ahh, Jimmy Buffett. The Carrot Top of musicians.

Posted by: SMACK | April 20, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Seems like Denver would be looking for Gaines Adams or maybe Willis or Beason, depending on how far they can move up. They need a speed rusher DE like Adams or an MLB to replace Wilson. Wilson isn't very tall so Beason should interest them if they can't move up.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

From NFL.com

WHICH TEAM IS LIKELY TO TRADE DOWN IN THE FIRST ROUND?

Keep in mind that more teams want to trade down than trade up every year. The one team that really has to consider a strong move down would be the Washington Redskins. They just don't have enough draft picks in 2007. If they were to select a player at the No. 6 spot in the first round, they wouldn't select again until Sunday. It would be a wise move to drop down to the middle of the first round and pick up a second-round pick. Denver is sitting at No. 21, and they have a head coach who can pull the trigger on a trade. The Patriots have two first-round selections which are close to the compensation for the No. 6 spot as well.

Maybe the Redskins can find a team just a few spots away so they could pick up at least a third round pick. For example, the Falcons are just two spots away at No. 8. Atlanta has two second-round picks, so they could throw No. 75 in the third round to the 'Skins to jump two spots, and the Redskins would go at No. 8 and come back in the third round with the new pick.

The point is don't be surprised if the Redskins are entertaining some calls from around the league.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

if i were you, i wouldn't do that

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Adam Schefter must have written that crap - Denver homie that he is. Only he and the Bronco crowd would call that a wise trade.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

So now I will champion a trade with The Pats. They picked up a lot of FA, possibly b/c Belicheck is done soon, so they might covet an impact player @ 6. Instead of saving them for depth/solid starters.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Kirwan, NFL.com

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Atlanta, Miami, Buffalo and the Patriots would all be good partners for trades of 1st round draft slots. I'd be happy if they could swing any of those that would yield additional 1st day picks. I read that Denver was talking to either Arizona or Cleveland, trying to get in the top 5 anyway. Maybe they can lose the Redskkins number while they are at it.

It's Friday and after 3 - I am out of here.

Posted by: Otter | April 20, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Ahh, Jimmy Buffett. The Carrot Top of musicians.

Posted by: SMACK | April 20, 2007 02:45 PM


I didn't know Jimmy Buffett became a bodybuilder....

Posted by: cdubb | April 20, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I was just out and about on the streets of Portland and saw the most incredible mullet. The usual mullet paradigm is 'business in front, party in back,' but this one was Mo Howard in front, Gregg Allman in back. Just a thing of utterly horrific beauty.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I live in Michigan, but grew up in the DC area and am a life long Skins fan. The talk of Alan Branch concerns me. I'm not sure he's even worth a first round pick. I watched most of UM's games and though he made some plays, he takes entirely too many off. Too much lack of effort, way too often. I question his motivation. Maybe another "Big Daddy" Wilkinson, if even that. If we trade down, which seems to be more and more possible, I haven't read alot of encouraging things about Jamaal Anderson lately; "not experienced, needs to be more aggressive, lack of leverage, two years to bring out his best..." If we pick either of these two in the first round, I think I'll be sick. Why does Kenard Lang's name keep ringing in my ears?

An aside. I know our FO appears most of the time like it hasn't a clue, but living in the Detroit metro area and watching the Lion's disfunctional management provides some comic relief. Stay sane until the Draft, and lets hope we do something right.

Posted by: Wagman | April 20, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Jason, at least you have a reason to go to the DoodleBops concert (Chloe). Years ago I went to Disney on Ice with a guy (about 10 years older than me) that I had been dating. There were no children with us. The show was his idea and we had front row seats. It was the Princess Fairy Tales or something like that. One of the "tales" was the Snow White story. When Snow White was skating around with the evil step mother (?) who was trying to get her to bite into the poison apple, my date yelled "Don't Eat It, Snow White!" I was mortified. That relationship died a quick death.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

With the draft 7 days away
I really don't have much to say
In contributing a post today
On us getting to 50K.

Posted by: charlie | April 20, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

wags

nice call on big daddy he had a decent career but was cursed by being #1 overall. just never measured up to the expectation.

Posted by: Old School | April 20, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm speechless, Lisa.

How long were you dating this guy before the "incident?"

Posted by: Skinz | April 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to Wagman bringing the differing opinion on Branch who has seen UM's games.

I know the draft is hype, and the combine is hype.... but when multiple different sources start reporting the same thing on a guy, then sometimes, most of the time it is true.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Gunman at NASA building. Houston, TX.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Getting back to football. I know this is a bit of a stretch Q, JLa what would the possibilities be that Lavar could sign with the Skins again? What if he gets no suitors and the Skins offer a low yet decent offer, could he come to try to prove himself? He always said he loved DC and its fan base.

By the way, and getting out of football talk, my wife is taking my daughter to the Doodlebops. I'll send her with her Skins jersey. If you see her please take a pick with her and post it here. I'll let my wife know so she doesn't freak out, just in case. I can imagine you singing and dancing , like me, to the 'get on the bus, come on let's take a ride' lol

Posted by: Henry71 | April 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: David | April 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Ahh, Jimmy Buffett. The Carrot Top of musicians.

Posted by: SMACK | April 20, 2007 02:45 PM


I didn't know Jimmy Buffett became a bodybuilder....

Posted by: cdubb | April 20, 2007 03:15 PM

I knew I should have gone with Gallagher, but at least you aren't arguing with the basic premise.

Posted by: SMACK | April 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

No way Lavar comes back. He loves the fans and DC area, but it was a bad break with the FO. Unless Cerrato and co. were completely out (hopefully soon), can't see him coming back..........he'd have to be beyond desperate.

Posted by: Jon | April 20, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Do miss the excitement....imagine having Portis, Smoot, and Lavar all getting media coverage. Couldn't keep the skins off tv!

Or imagine Reaper, Lavar, and Taylor dishing it out!

Posted by: Jon | April 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I meant Reaper, Lavar, and Landry

Posted by: Jon | April 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Chuck Brown is a bleeping legend. He rocks thoroughly and completely. What a showman.

I have heard a fwe people in Skins upper management have had a thing for Ginn for a long time. they have worked out essentially the entire first round and had them all in for visits, but i think they'll go D for anyone other than CJ. but they are capable of anything, aren't they?

as for the ranmdom question - if brunell shows his arm is okay - or as okay as normal - during minicamp then collins will be gone ... if not, they could cut brunell and suffer virtually no cap ramifications and still have collins as insurance.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | April 20, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Skinz, I had been dating him about a month - he always had something planned and I felt bad turning him down. He also took me to the Circus (again no kids with us). We had front row seats there as well.

He was really sweet though and seemed to adore me.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

ah The Onion

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nfl_draft_in_chaos_as_mel_kipers

David,

Thanks. That's about the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Hilareous. I needed that on a late Friday afternoon. If anyone hasn't read it, I suggest you link to it and do.. I laughed tears...

Posted by: Wagman | April 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't want Collins as a backup, the preseason stuff I saw was horrible. Brunell is a fine backup. Collins is only good for holding a clipboard and teaching Campbell the Saunders offense.......keep Collins off the field

Posted by: Jon | April 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Dan Pompeii of sporting news is reporting that Branch has stress fractures in both legs. Here is the PFT write-up:

A league source tells us that Dan Pompei's recent report regarding the presence of stress fractures in the lower legs of defensive tackle Alan Branch is on the money.

"Pompei is right," said the source. "There is no doubt he is right. I don't know where he got his info but he is dead right. That's all I can say."

A source with knowledge of Branch's condition disputed Pompei's report on Thursday, calling the problem shin splints, at worst.

The problem, as we understand it, is that different doctors view the medical evidence differently. In this case, there's an issue as to whether there's a "black line" in an MRI of Branch's legs and, if so, whether it is proof of a stress fracture.

Some teams/doctors believe it does. Others don't

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | April 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

if brunell shows his arm is okay - or as okay as normal
Posted by: Jason La Canfora | April 20, 2007 04:12 PM

Hey Jason - has there been any word on Brunell's rehab progress? I too would rather a HEALTHY Brunell as backup QB instead of Collins.

Posted by: skinswest | April 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Let me preface this by saying that drafting Calvin Johnson would be a mistake - simply for the fact that we would have to give up future draft picks and possibly a fan favorite player. Obviously, we need to stop mortgaging our future for the now - it has not been working.

However, if it does happen, let's not all hand in our season tickets. Let's not forget that ARE, B Lloyd (who?) and even Moss are not the greatest triumvarate (sp?) of receivers to ever grace this league. If one position is weak on offense, it is the receiver position. CJ would be a healthy addition.

All that said, it will likely be a big FO blunder if we gave up the farm for him. I'm just saying - it's not like we couldn't use the guy. I say try and trade down or take LL.

Posted by: Big Red 6 | April 20, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't think our receivers are necessarily weak. The focus point of the Skins' offense is the run, so I think that takes away from our receiver's capabilities. If anything, I'd say we're pretty balanced on offense. But, I agree that we should not trade up for CJ.

Posted by: CC | April 20, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe the receivers to be weak in terms of the league - just the weakest link on our offense. But point taken - the focus should be and is on the running game. I really truly believe this offense is going to surprise a lot of people this year.

Posted by: Big Red 6 | April 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

>>> "Hey Diddy, did you get your wine orders fiured out? I was going to recommend an old vine zinfadel that I tried last week called Bogle. It was nice."

Larry Bud, you're not going to believe this, but I was indeed drinking the Bogle Zin last night. Chef made an amazing pork chop and paired it with the Bogle.

How funny that you mention that!

Posted by: P Diddy | April 20, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't think offense is necessarily the problem on this team. If you recall, they were really getting things together in the second half of last season.

Remember, the plan all along was for the defense to keep them close and for the team to scrap away to a 4-4 record at the break. From there, the hope was that the offense would pull it together and they'd be able to get to the playoffs.

I think the receivers they have now are more than serviceable, to say nothing of the running game and Cooley. They have a hole at left guard, but, like I said before, they could head down to the Piggly Wiggly and find a left guard roaming the Pop Tarts aisle. Every team in the league has depth issues, so let's not go there. You lose some players, you're likely out of it (witness the Giants last season).

Make no mistake: the defense is what let them down last season. I think they did some good things during the offseason (Smoot, Fletcher), and if they can pick up a strong defensive lineman in the draft, they may be in great shape heading into the season. I also wouldn't be opposed to drafting Landry. Double G loves to get pressure through blitzes, and if he's got the DBs back there to play that game, he can get back to being a "genius".

Posted by: P Diddy | April 20, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The #6 pick in the draft will be LL. Last year the Skins felt they needed an upgrade at safety, they wanted Arch Delux and to insure they got him made him the hightest paid safety in the league. Now AA is no longer around and the need to upgrade that position still exists. The guys they got now are fillin players not full time starters. LaRon Landry will be the man.

Posted by: Throwback | April 20, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

P.Diddy, You are on th $$$ my man. GG blitzes through pressure from the secondary. When Praline went down in game 1 last season, the defensive plan toppled like a deck of cards because our depth at CB was exposed. This year we are deep at CB, and with the addition of Landry (and no visits from the injury bug) GG will be fielding phone calls from teams in search of a head coach in 2008. Which will clear the path for our next HC, Russ Grimm!

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 20, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Late to the party as so often. . . .

Thoughts:
- Dudes who hit on the ladies at a baby shower is flat out lame. You may as well wear a shirt that says LOSER because either you are one due to your inability to "score" at normal places like weddings or you think you're the shti and the ladies at the shower will be all goo goo gaga and translate watching their friend unwrap a dipare genie, onesies and a breat pump into an immediate desire to make the mad mad love. Seriously, maybe I'm in minority here but having attended bunch of baby showers in the last year I can't imagine thinking "Hey big fella you're hot lets go do it in nursery where I'll really get it going!"

Posted by: sfskin | April 20, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - how exactly did you keep a straight face when this guy asked you to Disney on Ice? I'd have laughed first and then had a look of horror thinking . . . Michael Jackson?

Posted by: sfskin | April 20, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Continuing my contributions to 50K. . . .

I just had the most horrifying daymare that maybe others have had and said so forgive if I'm repeating. I know it is highly unlikely but with our FO . . . what if . . .

They trade Soups, #6, some 2008 picks and gawd knows what else to Raiders for the #1 and take Russell!!!???!!!

Posted by: sfskin | April 20, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey dudes happy 4/20! Thank gawd the school day is over if I hear one more stupid reference from the kids I'm gonna need that hammer jm.

Posted by: sfskin | April 20, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand this deal about 4/20. I never heard it until today. This seems like a term for them hippies, not us casual tokers of today.......

Posted by: ES | April 20, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

How exactly will the wellness of Brunell's arm be evaluated? By how far out of bounds he can throw the ball away? By how many times the ball bounces before it reaches the receiver?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

4/20 is also a new term to me in the past few years, ES. But I think it is a big deal to the stoners.

Here's a little 'history' which claims this goes back to '71, which sounds about right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I have no idea what they mean by Happy 4/20. I hope it's not a morbid reference to the anniversary of Columbine which is sadly today.

Posted by: skinswest | April 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Jason, sorry for the drug stuff up here. I know this is a family blog and all. I just can't help myself.

Must... have... Cheetos...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

You should have put the Alec Baldwin smackdown on the little hellions, Sfskin.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately my work blocks most of the links that are posted in here so I can't see what was posted about the history of 4/20. But from what I know about it is, that it doesn't go back very far. It was started by people that used to meet at 4:20 in the afternoon to smoke everyday after work or school or something like that. I was told that it was put into High Times magazine or one of the other stoner magazines and eventually became legendary and turned into a date as well as the time.

Posted by: gethanr13 | April 20, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, my date was sooo excited - he always goes to Disney on Ice AND the Circus.

The draft/trade talks should be really heating up now with the draft only one week away. This should be a very interesting week.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Our buddy Len Pasquerilli of ESPN:

• Redskins on the move ... down? Because they have researched what it will take to move up or back from their current No. 6 slot in the first round, and because owner Dan Snyder is rarely inclined to just stand pat, the Washington Redskins remain a wild card in the early portion of the draft. Popular opinion is that Washington would like to make a foray up the draft board, like into the No. 2 slot, to pluck Calvin Johnson of Georgia Tech. But don't be surprised if the Redskins' quest for a wide receiver to complement Santana Moss actually results in a move back in the first round. Sources told ESPN.com that the Redskins were in Baton Rouge earlier this week checking out LSU wide receiver Dwayne Bowe. The Redskins are interested enough in Bowe to have brought along starting quarterback Jason Campbell to throw to him.

Posted by: Rob | April 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Rod,

Good nugget, I had heard nothing of JC going down there. If it is true then it seems that the FO has a different view on what they want out of this draft then most of us do.

Posted by: gethanr13 | April 20, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Rob - Peter King was saying the same thing on Dan Patrick's show today.

Posted by: skinswest | April 20, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Dave Butz was a 1st round pick for the Cardinals. Diron Talbert same for the Rams. Brundige was a second rounder. I don't think Mann or Manley were 1st rounders.

A defensive tackle makes absolutely no sense. Period. They have two guys who can do the job. The problem was obviously middle linebacker perhaps weak side defensive end. But more than stopping the run it really was the PASS. If YOU DON'T have anyone healthy enough or good enough to cover receivers you are going to have double cover zone them all the time. That tends to TAKE AWAY from run stopping. Don't you think? Defensive tackles do not typically get a lot of sacks. Neither do middle linebackers. If the pass coverage is weak everyone is thinking coverage to the detriment of the run.

They will draft Landry as they appear to have been impressed with him. Or they will draft CJ. They will not draft Okoye. They will not draft Branch. Not when there is a desperate need at critical skill positions. They have a guy they drafted LAST YEAR who impressed at tackle. Cornelius isn't done yet. They signed a MLB in free agency. They are not going to waste this draft pick. It is a really critical one all things considered.

If Poston wants his client to play again then he had best get Snyder, Gibbs, and La Var together. I think La Var has a far greater chance of rehab-ing back to almost full strength if he knows he will be playing in DC again. Motivation is key here. It makes a helluva lot of sense. For both sides really. Its almost like fate stepped in ...

Posted by: Periculum | April 20, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

LaVar is not coming back to DC. I would love to see it happen, but there is just no way I can see this happen. If you were burned by a previous employer, whether it was your fault or not, you would not go back and work for them again, so why would LaVar come back here. If you think this is happening you are must be in some fantasy land, because the reality of it is LaVar is done with the Skins and he doesn't want to come back. If he wanted to play here, he never would have paid his own way out of his contract.

Posted by: gethanr13 | April 20, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

dang, by the time that i got through reading the posts and put something in here, there is nobody left posting.

Posted by: gethanr13 | April 20, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Our buddy Len Pasquerilli of ESPN:

• Redskins on the move ... down? Because they have researched what it will take to move up or back from their current No. 6 slot in the first round, and because owner Dan Snyder is rarely inclined to just stand pat, the Washington Redskins remain a wild card in the early portion of the draft. Popular opinion is that Washington would like to make a foray up the draft board, like into the No. 2 slot, to pluck Calvin Johnson of Georgia Tech. But don't be surprised if the Redskins' quest for a wide receiver to complement Santana Moss actually results in a move back in the first round. Sources told ESPN.com that the Redskins were in Baton Rouge earlier this week checking out LSU wide receiver Dwayne Bowe. The Redskins are interested enough in Bowe to have brought along starting quarterback Jason Campbell to throw to him.

Posted by: Rob | April 20, 2007 06:44 PM


Rob, if they are considering Bowe, the Skins may have an offer to move down further than just a couple of spots. By the way, with all the talk about drafting a safety, are there any corners in this draft that could realistically become a #1 corner? The last time I checked #1 corner was a still position of need. Springs is the only one, who qualifies, but his age and injuries have caught up with him. The top rated corners would still be available after #6 and we could get a good corner prospect by moving down and picking up a 2d or 3d round pick.

Posted by: M | April 20, 2007 8:56 PM | Report abuse

A defensive tackle makes absolutely no sense. Period. They have two guys who can do the job. The problem was obviously middle linebacker perhaps weak side defensive end. But more than stopping the run it really was the PASS. If YOU DON'T have anyone healthy enough or good enough to cover receivers you are going to have double cover zone them all the time. That tends to TAKE AWAY from run stopping. Don't you think? Defensive tackles do not typically get a lot of sacks. Neither do middle linebackers. If the pass coverage is weak everyone is thinking coverage to the detriment of the run.

Posted by: Periculum | April 20, 2007 07:09 PM

Spending some time celebrating 4:20? The Skins were 2nd to last in stopping the run in the league last year. You need a good line rotation. Two DT's will not cut it especially one like Griffin who can not stay healthy. To say a DT makes no sense is ridiculous.

Posted by: JohnDCNE | April 20, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, I'm a strong believer that if you're not flirting everywhere you go (except for obviously inappropriate places, such as funerals), you're not doing your job. It's all about context. I would never be the sappy baby guy (it's not in my idiom anyhow), but I'd absolutely be the slightly cocky and funny guy at a baby shower. Heck, I could even get into the baby games...but I draw the line at guessing my waistline.

Posted by: P Diddy | April 20, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Nice strong weekend here, folks. Let's get some 'big mo' going to carry us through to the draft. I want to see us blow right through 50K.

Onward and upward, my lovelies!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Onward and upward, my lovelies!

WTF! Nate have you been hitting the bottle again my friend?

Where in the hell is Chris Larry. F him!

Oh before I forget panties. lol

Posted by: jm220 | April 20, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

That baby shower rant was worth every Gaines Adams post I could ever read in my life. Thanks, sfskin.

Posted by: SMACK | April 20, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

dam! Nats bad.

As much as I hated to see LaVar leave, I think it is best to leave it all behind.

Posted by: charlie | April 20, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

okay, for those of you paying attention, I had to stop blogging at a reasonable volume at 11:00, but I've put the swingline away for the weekend.
So my first question is: so, someone named "Wagman" states that "he watched all the Michigan games, and Branch takes plays off". My knee-jerk reaction was to state "he doesn't get to stay on the field when the offense comes on", but that would be too negative. Thanks to the 21st Century miracle that is Tivo, I watched almost every Michigan game too (Pam Ward on ESPN2, baby!). I have no idea on earth how you could possibly make that statement sitting in front of a 13" black and white TV at the animal shelter. I mean, come on. Joe the fan has no idea what is really going on at any time on most of the field. Do you know what his responsibility was on the play he's "taking off"?
Are you a second-string DT at Wayne State, or just another coked-up hamster with the dual curse of a Lions-Skins addiction?

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

M, Leon Hall (Michigan) and Darrelle Revis (Pitt) are the two guys said to be starter ready and projected btwn 15-17 all over the place. Revis also has some good special teams/return man stats.

Construction work for me today. I heard Peter King on the Dan Patrick show too. He said that, other than Oakland & Detroit, the other team who he thinks will make the draft day most interesting is the Skins.

Not much else to add, except re: someone (ES? PDSquared?) tooling on Branch for not being in shape for the Combine. I read recently that he had flu symptoms for something like two weeks leading up to the Combine. The article said something about it seeming like his weight seemed low at the Combine. Bottom line: peeps here who speak with conviction and certainty about these draft prospects make me tired and bored.

Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse

If you can't tell, this shabingus about ruling in/out people based on RUMINT is seriously pissing me off.
You want to have an argument about why safety makes more sense than DT, fine. You want to argue that player X is a criminal, there's a way to check that. You want to claim that player Y is lazy, how do you know that one way or another?

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

lemme get some crack

Posted by: Tyrone Biggums | April 20, 2007 11:37 PM | Report abuse

cload, word.

I want to unharsh my previous comment a little bit (realizing it applies to most player reviews from everyone here), I meant to refer to player analysis not based on review of game film (or better yet, games while actually being played). The point there though is that, if peeps actually remark about a guy they remember from a game, it was because he played well, not b/c he played crappy. But who's kidding who ... you don't get projected into the first round if you're crappy.

Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

AAARRRRRRRGGHHHHH! More RUMINT!

@#@@$#WEEWRR!@!@#$@#!@#$@#$$!$@

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

second caveat, I hang on every word from AMTTS, Governor, the gp posse generally ... I have a strong belief that these guys spend far too much time following college football, regardless of team.

Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Man, I wish I had a bottle in front of me.

Ahem.

So, sween, DT or FS?

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Assuming, of course, that the accusations of Landry with that altar boy are groundless.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 11:44 PM | Report abuse

i'm sorry i'm late on this, but i refuse to go to any baby showers...maybe i'm just a little old school. also, being a dc native...chuck brown and the soul searchers were unbelievable back in the day. as i recall, they would play at local venues in the summer...ft reno was my stomping grounds... and dont forget eu...they dropped it hard!

Posted by: cosmofla | April 20, 2007 11:46 PM | Report abuse

cload, I now admit that I did not carefully read till I jumped on. I can see with a "find on page" check that you have been on a tear. [Still haven't figured out what RUMINT stands for, but context says rumor is the first part. ... Also took me awhile to decipher the 6 letter capital word starting with PD ...]

Btwn DT and FS, I'm actually good with either. The bigger hole to me looks like FS b/c Archuleta was supposed to have filled the hole left by Clark, which didn't need to have been made a hole. DTs on roster look young.

Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

RUMINT is RUMor INTelligence, like SIGINT is SIGnals INTelligence and HUMINT is HUMan INTelligence.

Errr, not that I would know anything about those things.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 20, 2007 11:59 PM | Report abuse

and some rumint is useful -- the "team x is interested in moving up/down" is good for discussion, but the "he's a bad guy" shabingus is shabingusy shabingus at its worst.

You don't know, I don't know, Jason might know but he's not telling. That is how we roll.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 21, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

I just got all excited that there's a hoppin' conversation up here... and then remembered that blog time (now that it caught up with Eastern Real Time) is three hours ahead, so there's been a freakin' three hour lull up here.

Crickets chirping.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 21, 2007 3:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | April 21, 2007 5:49 AM | Report abuse

Maybe this is the reason that the Redskins are looking at Dwayne Bowe, if they are.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/columnists/rgosselin/stories/041507dnspomockdraft.2dc3375.html

Nice crickets tonight . . .

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | April 21, 2007 5:57 AM | Report abuse

It may still be tricky at the top end of the draft board, depending on who is available after pick #4 by Tampa Bay.

This from The Arizona Republic's version of JLaC:

Draft update
04/19/2007 02:05 PM

I just talked to vice president of football operations Rod Graves for some draft stories that will appear in the newspaper throughout the week, beginning Sunday. Graves chose his words carefully, but it's clear if the Cardinals are going to make a trade, it will be to move down, not up, on draft weekend.

"We're in a great spot at No. 5," he said. "There is some attractiveness in the fact that by moving down several spots we can still get an excellent football player and be in the position to possibly pick up a second round pick or multiple picks."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 21, 2007 6:00 AM | Report abuse

That last post was by the crickets, who are doing some research for me.

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | April 21, 2007 6:03 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: The Crickets | April 21, 2007 6:28 AM | Report abuse

JLC,

I saw the Doodlebops last night in Norfolk. Good luck, and be prepared to spend 12 bucks for the cotton candy/hat combo.

Posted by: Bob | April 21, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

The draft/trade talks should be really heating up now with the draft only one week away. This should be a very interesting week.

lisa, i thought the draft was today. BECAUSE of all the hype this week. i'm so dead. this is worse than the superbowl hype week. it's been a friggin MONTH!!!

so i turn the tv on calculating how long before the skins pick (15 times 6=90 minutes...draft starts at noon that's 1:30 PM...)

and actually had a dream this morning about the draft. oakland with #1 picks some OG. and they announce that there's a trade for #2. i get excited. the person announcing the trade was former secretary of state under clinton. and she says "there's been a trade...Calvin johnson goes to your reddddddddddddddddd-Berries" and i'm going WTF! just say it! just say it! why she fckin with us? she didn't say it.

so i wake up to the reality of mel's (kiper) big board on sportcenter. him predicting skins picking laron landry. if that happens they'll officially become the dumbest team in america. it'll be such a lame nonsubstantive pick. it'll be as bad as picking mario williams. what has picking seantay, carlos rogers gotten us? and he seems like the same player as seantay. WTF!!!

also lisa, sorry about your date. i used to love animation (gargoyles, animaniacs) as late as 23 years of age. but FDISNEY????!!! and a CIRCUS???! circus is really really easy to get out of. "clowns scare me". and the only act i like in circus is those motorcycles in that steel sphere. it's been over 25 years for me. it's not what it used to be.

re: doodlebops...i can't help looking at that girl's figure when i'm watching. and i find the two guys really really disturbing. i'm hoping i never have to take mine to one of these concerts. cuz i've seen the crowd shots... ;)

4/20...*sigh*...

Posted by: dealer | April 21, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

There's a cotton candy/hat combo??? Oh, I pray that Jason will reward his hard-working, dedicated, always-got-his-back editor with the gift of one of those!!!! Or, I'll just take Chloe's. Sure, she'll cry for a while...
Hmmm, I seem to be channeling Alec Baldwin this morning.
Reading over these, the most disturbing thing is the Disney on Ice date. No matter how much I loved someone, that would be a relationship killer. I would be doomed to making some kind of inappropriate comment if I went...which I wouldn't...unless Tom Brady pulled on the sequins and did a triple axel.
Then, I am soooo there. In my cotton candy/hat combo.
One week to the draft...we're at 46,057 and I'm feeling pretty confident about 50k.
As for the pick, I have decided I want them to trade down. Maybe not for Briggs, but down...

Posted by: Cindy | April 21, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

At the Doodlebops shows, are there people (the designated responsible adults) who take children away for a little while to play until Mommy and Daddy sober up?
I found this nugget on the DoodleBops (sorry, Doodles, didn't realize the B was upper-case; profuse apologies) site: Jonathan Wexler plays Moe Doodle. He loves to pull the rope.
I pretty much want to know no more.

Posted by: Cindy | April 21, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

ohh and i saw The Departed...it was...it was good to see jack expand his horizons...really what a great one trick poney talent...but actually liked leonardo for the first time in a movie. and once again marky mark was awesome. and why does matt damon have a career? and that movie HAD to have been shot with multiple endings. right?

Posted by: dealer | April 21, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I was disappointed in Departed, which I saw only about a month ago. (I almost never see movies during the NFL season.) I saw Volver last weekend and thought it was terrific. And, I'm very late on this one, L4yer Cake. It was really great. I have the Good Shepherd, but haven't watched it yet because I'm intimidated by the three-hour commitment. And Tony said it was hard to follow. I'm no chimp. I think I can deal.
If you have HBO, check out United 93. It's based more on the terrific New Yorker piece on the air traffic controllers than on speculation about what happened on the plane.
Also, I now have "Not the Best of the Larry Sanders Show," so, hey now, I've got that going for me.
Gotta run now. Literally.

Posted by: Cindy | April 21, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

cindy, any yard work today? i'm hearing lawn mowers outside...i hear it's lovely...still have to take a shower...still in bed...(girls are out)...got a morning off...hmmmmmm...what to do....what to do.....

Posted by: dealer | April 21, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Yard work? God, no. I'm not exactly Nature Girl, altho I am Green and all that. I suggest you watch TV, blog your guts out and continue to mull the draft possibilities. It's one week out -- this is no time to focus on life outside sports.

Posted by: Cindy | April 21, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

yeah, i watched united 93 last week. it was amazingly done. it's really hard to describe (for me) why i liked that movie so much. probly because it would've been an easy movie to throw in a lot of propaganda garbage but they didn't. so i guess that made it easy/comfortable movie to watch. people've told me that the air traffic tower scenes are as real as they get.

i think i've scene 4 layer cake. can't rember...but not others that you mentioned.

Posted by: dealer | April 21, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

:) i think i'm gonna go take a shower and then go from there...a weekend like this in wash, dc should be taken advantage of like...

Posted by: dealer | April 21, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2844964

If this is the perspective the Skins take then it gives credence to the Landry theory. You absolutely don't want to end up with a dud at #6.

Going down to see Bowe at LSU reminds me of how they went down to check out Campbell before they drafted him. But too much of a reach at #6, obviously they don't take him without trading down. Of course, it could all be a ruse - maybe it's all just an excuse to go down and see Landry again.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 21, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Dealer,
Just for the record, if you turn the draft show on at 1:30 next week, you will probably miss the Redskins pick. Theoretically, the teams before them should be finished by no later than 1:15. Usually there is a team or two that picks quickly also.
You may want to turn your television on at about 12:45, just to be sure.

Posted by: Otter | April 21, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"the writings on the wall
come read it, come see what it say."

b.dylan

Posted by: flipthatswitch | April 21, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

There is no chance we are getting to 50K before Draft Day. Maybe we will make it by the end of Draft Weekend. Nice weather + no new posts with insider nuggets from Jason means we probably won't get even 100 posts today and tomorrow. Then we have to average 800/day Monday-Friday? Only way that is going to happen is if we have another blog skirmish with ExtremeSkins.

Posted by: Otter | April 21, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Mayock's Top Quarterbacks 2007 NFL Draft

1. JaMarcus Russell, Jr -- LSU
2. Brady Quinn, Sr -- Notre Dame
3. Trent Edwards, Sr -- Stanford
4. John Beck, Sr -- BYU
5. Drew Stanton, Sr -- Michigan State

Zowie! What happened to Troy Smith??? One bad game and no one wants him! I think that he will be a really good qb in the nfl - though it may take a few years to develop.

Posted by: charlie | April 21, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Well, I just took a look at the Doodlebops site. I can understand why kids love them but how on earth can the Doodlebops continue to play that music month after month and not go crazy?????

Also, their videos are sure to cause ADD in the kids that watch it. Makes my head spin.

Posted by: charlie | April 21, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

charlie, most "experts" agree that smith will be taken, but not until the 3rd or 4th round.
too windy to play golf today in old New Mexico, so i'm pokering and blogging.
what's next?

Posted by: flipthatswitch | April 21, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, try not to get too upset after reading this:
Laura Bush not so innocent

of course the title is all mine and conjured up in my sick head.

thanks otter. knowing me i'll be up at 6 in the morning...and hoping that skins make a move before they pick...

and yeah d tackles are hard to find...power in numbers...if you need a d tackle i'd pick 5 from rounds (3 to 7)...hey, that's what the eagles did when they need a cornerback 4/5 years ago...

re: the doodlebops. charlie, that's why i find them disturbing.

Posted by: dealer | April 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

charlie,
There has been a lot of discussion regarding Troy Smith ever since the BCS Bowl game. There are concerns about his height (6'0) and his debatable arm strength. I believe the real issue that no one talks about is that he reminds too many people of Michael Vick. Smith runs very well but leaves the pocket too soon; often doesn't wait for his receivers to make their cuts or break free before he is running across the line of scrimmage. (I'm not sure what this says about the "highly-rated" OSU receivers either; maybe they aren't that good.) Since Vick's success in the NFL has been marginal at best so far, you can't blame anyone for not wanting to draft a Vick-clone at QB

Posted by: Otter | April 21, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

M, Leon Hall (Michigan) and Darrelle Revis (Pitt) are the two guys said to be starter ready and projected btwn 15-17 all over the place. Revis also has some good special teams/return man stats.

Construction work for me today. I heard Peter King on the Dan Patrick show too. He said that, other than Oakland & Detroit, the other team who he thinks will make the draft day most interesting is the Skins.

Not much else to add, except re: someone (ES? PDSquared?) tooling on Branch for not being in shape for the Combine. I read recently that he had flu symptoms for something like two weeks leading up to the Combine. The article said something about it seeming like his weight seemed low at the Combine. Bottom line: peeps here who speak with conviction and certainty about these draft prospects make me tired and bored.

Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2007 11:31 PM

Sween, thanks for the info and I hope your construction project went well. As for the top cornerbacks, what about Chris Houston from Arkansas? He is a bit undersized, but had the fastest time in the combine among the cornerbacks and played well in arguably the best college football conference. Some scouts think that he would be a very good in man to man coverage. Other than the size (being two inches shorter and eight pounds lighter than Hall), is there a reason as to why is ranked much lower than the two corners that you mentioned? Thanks in advance.

Posted by: M | April 21, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone else see the interview with Lorenzo Booker of Florida State on NFL Network last night? Funniest part was when he talked about how much he liked Disney stuff, just like Lisa's former friend. (Don't worry, Lisa - the Redskins probably aren't thinking about drafting him. Hes a running back/return man/3rd down receiver-type.)

Posted by: Otter | April 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Otter, I saw that show and thought Lorenzo Booker was HOT! Now he could take me to Disney on Ice anytime :-)

Posted by: Lisa | April 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

MOTHER-IN-LAW!! AAAAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

Much better now, blogpeeps.

Posted by: 4-12 | April 21, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

First bike ride of the year...barely made it. Capitol Hill felt like the Alps to me...almost keeled over on Constitution Ave. Good talent on the Mall though. Is Landry similar/better/worse than Sean? I haven't seen him play very much...

Posted by: RBD202 | April 21, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

dealer - that article sadly didn't surprise me for two reasons. . . one this administration has made bilking millions of tax payer dollars for questionable programs sui generis and two this is pretty standard stuff in the world of holy grail panacea education programs. Turns out that the same people who make the standardized tests are the ones who write the textbooks that are most closely aligned with the tests and so we should buy those textbooks. grrrr

Posted by: sfskin | April 21, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

otter oh ye of little faith. We shall make it to 50k and I'll amend the rule and say by end of draft day. Have you not read the sheer genius ramblings of we coked up hamsters?

Posted by: sfskin | April 21, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - I was thinking similar thoughts. If Matthew McCanahottie showed up at my doorstep dressed in Cinderella's outfit and asked me to Disney On Ice I'd put my glass slippers and run out the door. Only after would I be slightly creeped out.

Posted by: sfskin | April 21, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry to bring this back up but I can't help it. . . . DoodleBop makes me giggle almost as much as PPTP.

I know I have a 12 year old boy living in my brain.

Posted by: sfskin | April 21, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, true dat. one thing i learned by watching Rome was that i didn't know was the use of media in politics even then. it's funny that people like me are still appalled at finding how media controls our reaction to everything and there's corruption in the government at every level. and has been going on forever and ever. i guess it's part of growing up.

4-12, i feel your pain brother. just try to rember that that's the sort of pain that actually goes away. without any long lasting effects. and sooner than you think. i had a really bad episode with mine once. she'd been over for SIX WEEKS!!!!! i totally lost it. i should've just left the house or dunked my head in a bucket of ice or something. it was pretty bad. it wasn't screaming or anything like that. it's what i said and what the outcome was. yikes! and most importantly i don't think i got any for a couple of weeks.

i want a trade or trades! i don't want them picking at 6 goshdarnit!

Posted by: dealer | April 21, 2007 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Otter, did you know that you made the RI "Best of the Blog" in today's WashPo?

Posted by: Lisa | April 21, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Doodlebops sounds like an event the BOG should be at-ha!!!

Posted by: Pink C.C.- | April 21, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations, Otter. I was starting to think that our blog wasn't getting enough cred in the print version, since nobody had mentioned the 'Best of the Blog' thing. But I haven't seen a print WaPo since I joined the blog crusade, so what do I know.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 21, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

I caught what I think is a mixed metaphor in the Mike Wiseass column. (Are you smirking at me? How bout I wipe that smirk right off your face, pal?)

"[Antonio] Daniels is in bunker-down mode..." I think what you were looking for was "Daniels has a bunker mentality" or perhaps "Daniels is hunkering down in a defensive posture"

Looky here, this mixed metaphor even has its own entry in the Urban Slang dictionary thingy: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunker+down

Anyway, memo to Mike Wise, you've been trying to hard to bust balls on the local teams since you arrived in DC. Okay, maybe that's your schtick, running people down to make yourself feel superior. That would certainly explain the smirk. But mixed metaphors, come on! Don't come in here with that garbage!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 21, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Is anybody having trouble with the blog not posting your comments? I've seen a few people complaining about this recently.

I've had no trouble with the blog since the Great Blackout, when the new version of Movable Feast was installed and we all had to take a long look in the mirror and assess what to do with our lives. Thank God that passed.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 21, 2007 11:13 PM | Report abuse

And yes, I'm just going to keep posting and posting and posting up here. I don't give a damn. I want to prove Otter wrong, just like Bluto did.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 21, 2007 11:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick on Sunday. So, I catch up on the blog to lift my spirits. Now I feel so stupid reading about Baby shower crashers and DoodleBops.

I'm only posting this to crontribute to the ridiculous quest for 50K by next week.

Posted by: bangkokben | April 22, 2007 2:25 AM | Report abuse

On a positive note, 20 weeks to kick-off!

Posted by: bangkokben | April 22, 2007 2:27 AM | Report abuse

Was wondering about the interest the Skins are showing in Bowe. Obviously taking Bowe would involve a trade down scenario. Which could mean, if say Peterson was there at 6, the Briggs deal could be revised. The Bears might like to have a one-two punch at RB, like they had last year. Of if someone the Patriots liked was there the Samuel deal could happen. Then maybe Bowe is an option at 28 or 31. Of course, in the late first round, I'd rather they take Grubb than Bowe. It's not too early to start getting younger on the OL.

As far as Rome goes, I wouldn't take that show as history. Not on any level.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 22, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Forget Johnson and Bowe - why pay big bucks and waste high draft picks on a possession receiver? Get this guy instead. Let the new smurfs run the downfield routes and this guy can pretend he's Monk. Probably a 6th or 7th round pick.

Legedu Naanee - WR - Boise State

STRENGTHS
Hands and Concentration
Red Zone Weapon
Size

AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT
Downfield Threat

A consistent player the past two seasons after changing positions, Naanee has potential as a possession wide out if he takes his game to the next level.

Former quarterback who has started the past two seasons at receiver. All-Conference selection as a senior after posting 34/522/6. Junior totals were 34/483/6.

King-sized wide out who consistently makes the difficult reception in a crowd. Finds the openings in the defense, comes back to the ball and makes the catch with opponents draped on him. Sturdy wide out who can take a big hit and hold onto the throw. Extends to make the reception away from his frame.

Posted by: Sol Kniper | April 22, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Are we having Loseable Type problems?

Posted by: Cindy | April 22, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

nate, i don't read mike wise. his writing annoys me. and he's even more annoying on the radio. on the other hand john feinstein who i had only heard and dismissed his writing based on his appearance on tony's show is/was a pleasant surprise. i really hope wapo can keep junior cuz tony's left a pretty big hole. and they don't have anyone right now full time that'll make me pay fitty cents for.

you know who i like to read more of but he doesn't write much either...is that dude from world series of poker.

Posted by: dealer | April 22, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of poker....onE of my biggest pet peeves is poker being shown on sports channels...ESPN, Comcast Sports Net,etc. POKER IS NOT A SPORT!

Posted by: Lisa | April 22, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Who is Lorenzo Booker? I keep hearing about Trace Adkins and Kenny Chesney. :)

Johnson is more than a possession receiver. He is not an Art Monk. Definitely not a "smurf". He could be a major blocker as well as a deep threat. He has way too many positives to pass up. Like Champ Bailey. Which of course means every team will likely try to block the 'Skins from getting him. He is a game, nay a season changer.

Expect Landry or a trade down just like the article describes. I think most are hoping for a trade down. They need to rebuild in a lot of areas. NOT JUST the defensive line. They mentioned Carriker who sounds more like a Charles Mann. Let's face it; the 'Skins did better in the draft when they drafted late. With the exception of the Champ Bailey, La Var Arrington coup. Some wrote that their best deal still remains trading 1st round pick Norm Snead for Sonny Jurgenson.

Posted by: Periculum | April 22, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

You wanna talk about the Curse o' Les Boulez (TM TK), we have to watch our Wizards using a breadstick in a swordfight, while Kwame Brown, the Sanjaya of the NBA, could advance. I think they could change their name to Puppy Eaters and fate would smile more broadly on that team. Feh.

Posted by: SMACK | April 22, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

So who are the Skins going to pick? The Draft is not even a week away and we are still debating.....will it be Landry? Okoye? Adams? Anderson? Will they trade down or up?

Just seems to me in the past that we pretty much knew who they were going to pick.....Carlos Rogers was no surprise......the year before that it was down to Sean Taylor or Kellen Winslow....and even the year we drafted Samuels and Lavar the only other possibility was Courtney Brown.

Posted by: Lisa | April 22, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Hello Lisa,
The reason we don't have any idea is two fold:
a. We are so depleted and have so many questions, as last year exposed us terribly! Thus we cannot narrow down to a player to fit here or there...

b. We all know we need to trade down, even the FO knows this! We have not drafted well, and desperately need some youth that can play providing depth.

Hello DCSween,
Couldn't get back to you any quicker as I was away on business. Yes, I would be willing to trade the #6 down for 2 second rounders and a third.
Might as well save all that foolish signing bonus $$ on one player and use it to draft a three players in the first day who will be motivated to make it because they don't get the large contract!

Been saying this for a month haven't I?
You guys getting tired of me sounding like a broken record?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | April 22, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Well, Carlos wasn't a lock -- I remember a lot of angry people who couldn't believe that we didn't pick Mike Williams; it's odd that the fact that Tenn picked Pacman Jones not only saved us from taking him, but also forced us to consider that there was going to be a run on CBs, which made picking Rogers an easier decision. Carlos doesn't look so bad, bracketed by those two, even though he's ten yards behind the play... at least he's on the field.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 22, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Happy Earth Day peeploggers. I'm sure all of you are out there recycling and stuff. I'm more green than not but I will say what makes me chuckle about the environmental arguments is when they say we're destroying the earth.
Actually we're destroying the earth we need in order to survive. The earth will be here in some form or another long after we hamsters have killed ourselves off. Turns out we ain't that powerful.

Posted by: sfskin | April 22, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else see the op-ed on the Redskins name change?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/20/AR2007042001702.html

I think we should take credit for the discussion and this person clearly ain't a fan if she suggest "G-men" as an option. Our division already has that name.

Posted by: sfskin | April 22, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm still mystified by this -- either the FO can't identify players worth a damn, so you would want to hold onto #6 (only one chance to screw the pooch), or they're supersmart, in which case the #6 pick will be the final piece of the puzzle for a run to the super bowl.
What am I missing, where everyone wants to give them 14 third-round picks? This isn't pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey, right? We're not seriously arguing that our best chance is to find one gem in the 3rd round?

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 22, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing we don't know the pick because their main goal is to trade it away and draft day will determine any trade.

Hey where in the print edition is best of the blogs?

Posted by: sfskin | April 22, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

cload - I don't think most people want us to trade the 6 unless we get a lower first round pick plus 2 and 3 round picks.

Unless we get a guy like Landry or Johnson there are a pool of guys at DE/DT who will very likely be there at 12 etc. so we can get them and get some guys in rounds 2 and 3.

Posted by: sfskin | April 22, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I still like Red Lancers better.

That there was seven of the fugliest names I can think of changing to. So -- if you want to start a name change contest, fins something that reverently pays respect to this nation's indian heritage and starts with R so we can keep the script R logo, and you can stand back and watch the money roll in.

Maybe we can get that guy that designed the Ravens logo, then got cheated out of any money for it.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 22, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

re: trading down, I certainly understand the concept of trading down 5-10 spots to get one additional early second round pick, but this whole "#6 for 2 2nd Rounders, a 3rd rounder, and a fifth rounder" -- maybe Saint Scott Pioli could make something of it, but why even entertain the notion for our FO?

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 22, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I think a lot of us are tyring the Peter Pan approach to the draft. "Clap your hands if you believe in fairies." or rather "Post a lot of suggestions about the draft and vehemently demand they don't move up." I think many of us are worried that come Saturday the FO is going to make another classic colossal effed up move that we'll all have to find a way to spin into happy happy joy joy.

Posted by: sfskin | April 22, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

okay i got it. this is my dream scenerio:

#6 - traded to a team with a coach on his way out (giants) for their first this year, their second this year, their second next year

subtotal of '08 picks = 1

#giants pick - trade to whomever for this years 2nd and 3rd and next years 1st.

'08 subtotal = 2

#? trade the second and consequently 3rd round picks to get next year's 2nd, this year's 4th, 5th, 3rd, and another 3rd for next year

'08 subtotal = 4

and let this FO play with themselves on the second day for rounds 4th and on...with 8 picks or so...

next year they'll have 2 Ones, 3 2nds, 2 3rds...

fire everyone in the fo including gibbs.

hire me.

i'll get you at the very least 4 starters with 7 picks in the first 3 rounds!

i'll bring back steve spurrier and prove to everyone that he didn't have the groceries the first time. ;)

we'll(i could say "we" now since i'll be a part owner of the team as part of my compensation package) win the superbowl, change the name, move the team back to dc all within my first year as the Master of Football Operations at Skins Park.

Posted by: dealer | April 22, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

So the effed up move is moving up? Or is moving down a problem too? Where does Tinker Bell stand on the issue?

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 22, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

ohh and i'll make sure that there's no parking lot except for buses and bikes to reduce pollution.

to make up for loss revenue. i'll quadruple it by making fans wear a hat with an lcd on the top. i'll treat each lcd/hat as a pixel on a screen... and i'll sell each lcd ad space for a MILLION bucks! (diddy, don't worry i already patented the idea).

Posted by: dealer | April 22, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Psst, dealer, I think SMACK is going around the blog impersonating you, coming up with crazy schemes to ruin the franchise...

You had me right up until you mentioned Spurrier. That's a 5-lb sack of shti you're trying to stuff...

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 22, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Vinny actually has prior experience with trading down and picking up additional draft picks. It was a common practice with the 49ers under Walsh. It was done here also in 2002 when the Redskins traded down in the first round before taking Patrick Ramsey. If trading down on draft day is the objective, it seems like Ceratto, Gibbs & company should be able to handle it.

What is worrisome is that the front office will do something incredibly stupid BEFORE Saturday. Briggs is still out there; so is Samuel. Our #6 pick should be on the list of endangered species for the next 5 days.

Posted by: Otter | April 22, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe one of my comments was picked to be used in Best of the Blogs. I totally missed it - I rarely see the printed version on weekends. I hope it was something about football and sounded reasonably intelligent, rather than "baby shower pick-up tips".

Posted by: Otter | April 22, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

That "rename the redskins" article was terrible. The reader comments said it all - the writer has no clue about other football names (G-Men, Bengals, Bills) and there is no chance she is a Redskin fan. But let's play her little game anyway.

The Washington Renegades.

Lots of interesting connotations and the "R" can stay on the helmet. Get rid of "Hail to the Redskins" and adopt "Renegades of Funk" (Rage) as the team song. (Team video of "Renegades of Funk" would be led by Southeast Jerome.)

Posted by: Otter | April 22, 2007 7:17 PM | Report abuse

You don't need me for franchise-ruining. Franchise-ruining begins at home.

Posted by: SMACK | April 22, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and in deference to the rest of the group here -

MORE COW BELL.

Posted by: Otter | April 22, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

That article was so dumb, Lions and Bears are taken, what about Tigers?? What the hell does she the Bengals are?? Does she thinks those stripes on their helmets are to make them go faster??

Posted by: kost52 | April 22, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I actually like the Renegades....

Posted by: Lisa | April 22, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Popular opinion is that Washington would like to make a foray up the draft board to pluck Georgia Tech's Calvin Johnson. But don't be surprised if the Redskins' quest for a wide receiver to complement Santana Moss actually results in a move back in the first round, writes ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli.
Sources told ESPN.com that the Redskins were in Baton Rouge earlier this week checking out LSU wide receiver Dwayne Bowe. The Redskins are interested enough in Bowe to have brought along starting quarterback Jason Campbell to throw to him.

Posted by: kost52 | April 22, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say that I agree with Pasquerelli, but I do. DT is just too much of a risk at #6. You have to go with someone you think is a sure fire pick. To me, there probably will only be a few of those available. I think that they include Landry, Peterson and Olsen. Considering we don't need a TE or RB, I think the pick has to be Landry.

Posted by: BT | April 22, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

No such thing as a sure thing. Ask Pearson Prioleau.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 22, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Sure there are. Landry is going to be a sure fire bust. Branch and Okoye are sure fire HOFs...

Posted by: Pearson Prioleau | April 22, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Hahaha Nice work Pearson!

Posted by: kost52 | April 22, 2007 8:44 PM | Report abuse

lol@smack...funny shtuff! cload, c'mon! are you telling me spurrier's a worse nfl coach than mike martz? give him st. louis rams offense and he would've scored 100 per game and would've won 3 superbowls going away with that offense...(with everything kept same)....

all i have to show you spurrier haters is Patrick Ramsey as exhibit A. where is he now? of course the spurrier haters believe that spurrier ruined ramsey. to that i say Danny Woeful VS. Archie's boy...one thing my boy knew and still knows is the QB position. so please don't hang patrick ramsey's demise on spurrier. it's the other way around. and the people who picked ramsey.

jason, did you ever make it back from doodlebops?

Posted by: dealer | April 22, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

that sopranos episode was one of the best tv hour ever. hoping that the last episode is just as good.

Posted by: dealer | April 22, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Dealer,

What's with the Spurrier man crush? Those of us who worship Gibbs at least have three good reasons. What does your boy have? A rusty heisman, an 0-14 record as starter with the Bucs, and the sense to walk away. If it wasn't for Marvin Lewis, the Spurrier experiment would have ended sooner. IF he had the rams offense he may have scorred 100 points but only to lose to any other team scorring 120. If you like his offense so much buy yourself an arena team.

Posted by: bangkokben | April 23, 2007 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | April 23, 2007 3:02 AM | Report abuse

"How exactly will the wellness of Brunell's arm be evaluated? By how far out of bounds he can throw the ball away? By how many times the ball bounces before it reaches the receiver?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 20, 2007 06:00 PM"
*******************************************

LMAO!!!!

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 6:17 AM | Report abuse

Sween and Cload;

Been off all weekend, just read your comments from Friday night.

I have to say it is pretty hypocritical to call out peeps saying that they should bring fact and not conjecture. This blog is 90% conjecture b/c we are not in the know, there are not many facts.

And I felt like I tried to point out to the 'clues' that said to me Branch was Lazy. All the while noting it seemed that way and I dont think I ever claimed to be omnipotent.

But your right, we should stick to finding rap sheets on people or argueing whether or not our unprofessional opinion of why our team needs DT vs FS, because no one here is basing this off of incomplete information, or game film, or drunk rememberances of games.

Remember that people make serious accusations of Grilliams, not knowing him personally, but they seem to skate by your criticisms? You must have a pressing interest in Branch and not Grilliams.

Just saying it seems like a double standard.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 6:43 AM | Report abuse

And to hopefully put the CJ rumors to rest;

As stated, #1 priority is Run. Now if we didnt have Lloyd, and seeing how ARE was semi effective, then CJ might make sense.

But, Saunders never had great WR's in KC. He got by with some less than stellar WR's, so his need for a passing offense to go with the running game should be fine with Moss, #85 and ARE.

With Cooley, Portis, Betts (pass recieving skills) and Moss, there are not enough balls to go around.

So I think, as with most pre-draft talk, that it is smoke. And even if we are not blowing it, other wirters need something to talk about, a big draft day trade, and who else is more likely based upon years past to pull off such a move?

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 7:29 AM | Report abuse

To echo some of the Mike Wise comments above. Wise is at it again...This morning he ripped the Wizards, kicking a team without their two all-stars.

Wise, give it a break. All you seem to do is pick the spots where you can write negative articles. People here are sick of it.

Posted by: BT | April 23, 2007 9:20 AM | Report abuse

J-La, hopefully you got a chance to see some Sox/Yanks this weekend. J-Paps is becoming what Mariano used to be. Why is it that the Yanks can't get a batting helmet to fit Jason Giambi's head?

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | April 23, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Dealer - come on man. Even I knew I blew as an NFL coach.

Posted by: Steve Spurrier | April 23, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Why is it that the Yanks can't get a batting helmet to fit Jason Giambi's head?

Greg, after watching probly the best sopranos episode i switched to the game...just in time, top of the 7th. that japanese kid is SICK!

and to answer your question probly because in order to avoid detection he switches his chemicals every other day...and depending on the chemicals he's taking it makes his head larger and smaller...

Posted by: dealer | April 23, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

I find myself a week before the draft, thinking the skins will have a hard time messing this one up. I say that because we have needs everywhere. exceptions QB/RB.

try and quit thinking about which need is most important and realize that there isn't a position on the field where we can't use a talent upgrade. Should we be lucky enough to select a player at any of our need positions who turns into a great player, I will be ok with that regardless of what position he plays.

Posted by: Old School | April 23, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I have a good friend who is close with LaVar. I spoke with him last week and it looks like LaVar is going to play in Baltimore or retire. LaVar resides in Annapolis and with his 3 young kids he wants to be able to stay close and not go away. I think he could be a good fit to replace Thomas in Baltimore.

Posted by: Take it for what it is worth | April 23, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Dealer, yeah, Dice-K has some filthy stuff.

The Yanks have some GREAT bats though, they'll wear out some pitchers this year.

Funny about Giambi, and true to boot.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | April 23, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Old School, keep it coming with the truth. Birds of a feather, you and me. Best player available.

Redskin Ray, on the point about best player available, though I throw out whacked out hypotheticals, the #6 in exchange for 3 first day picks (rounds 2 & 3) is one I actually prefer. Three dips into the well for "best player available". For all its failures in the late rounds, I think the Skins' scouts have done OK (recently) in the earlier rounds. The cliche about bird in the hand vs. two in the bush doesn't fit quite right -- more like three in the bush is worth more than one in the bush.

M, Chris Houston is one of those guys who the Skins would be lucky to get if he is a "best player available" whenever they do pick. Frankly, seems like there are about 6-7 corners who would be solid picks on the first day (rounds 1-3). Chris Houston wobbles between the #2 and #4 CBs in lots of different mock drafts I've seen. Though Josh Wilson (Maryland) has some stud potential, Darrelle Revis (to me anyway) looks like the guy with more upside than Leon Hall. I saw an article from Pittsburgh that seems equivalent to the espn articles about Okoye and Jamaal Anderson -- a guy with his head in the right place. http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_503990.html To me, Revis looks like the perfect guy for the Titans to pick to replace PacMan this season (and, if and when PacMan returns, to provide some maturity in the Titan's backfield).

#6DoubleEl, my point wasn't about conjecture v. fact, it was about the degree of certainty based on conjecture. You had said something about Branch definitely being lazy or something like that. To me, that line bores and tires me. Kind of like the unwarranted certainty about some of the player evaluations on mock draft sites. If the line was something like "Okoye seems like a better pick than Branch b/c they say Branch is lazy," then the persuasiveness of the assertion is consistent with the reliability of the intelligence. Over-intepreting flimsy data tends to put soldiers in harm's way ... without an exit strategy ... when the job is not done in Afghanistan.

p.s. Rumor started by dcsween -- HaikuMan and cload might be the same person, or at least receive their W-2s from the same Company.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Let me see if I can work this out.

Take one college quarterback with a cannon arm and all the guts in the world. Place him in an offensive scheme where protecting the QB is not in the playbook. Add an offensive line made up of matadors, and the conclusion is that Ramsey caused Spurrier's downfall?????

Sorry, does not compute.

Posted by: notherMWskinsfan | April 23, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Well, there goes any credibility I may have had. Can't even get my name right,
Should have been "notherNWskinsfan"

Posted by: notherNWskinsfan | April 23, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

I was out of town and I am late to the party...

how do you break a toe reading a story to a kid? As soon as I read that I got the Harlem Globetrotter music stuck in my head and could vision JLaC hopping around and cursing.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | April 23, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I have to say it is pretty hypocritical to call out peeps saying that they should bring fact and not conjecture.
Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 06:43 AM

My complaint is only that people are giving fact and conjecture equal weight, even when we KNOW that the people doing the conjecture-ing have ample reason and oppourtunity to spin/lie.

I'm not sure what you mean about Grilliams? I think Grilliams has made some pretty tasty lemonade from some very marginal lemons, although the batch he made last year tasted awful.

I have no pressing interest in Branch, I think DT is an important position to upgrade, but if the FO talks to Branch, Okoye, and Landry, I'm good with whoever they choose. If they choose a DE at #6, and get run over all next year, I'll take some small amount of "told you so" glee, but that's about it.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 23, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Renegades - Can hear it now - bad 70's Styx song blasted at Fedex during every break in action - yuck.

Rattlers? That has merit. I like Red Wolves myself.

Posted by: skinswest | April 23, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I find myself a week before the draft, thinking the skins will have a hard time messing this one up. I say that because we have needs everywhere. exceptions QB/RB.

old school - don't speak too soon, with our FO it is not out of the realm of possibility that we draft a QB or RB

Posted by: BT | April 23, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I only do Irish Haiku:

A buxom young woman from Hall
Wore a newspaper dress to the ball
but the dress caught on fire
and burned her entire
front page, sports section, and all.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 23, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

How about "The Washington Reapers?"

We could just have a picture of Sean Taylor on our helmets...

Posted by: BT | April 23, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Weren't Renegades and Rattlers USFL/XFL/ArenaFL teams?

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 23, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Summary of my comments about Branch

"...Enuf said. You can retort all you would like Branch supporters, but coming into the combine out of shape, getting winded after 15 plays (reported on same sportscenter show), lack of production on a killer defensive team; there is just only one reason... LAZY - He will be a get paid and not give a F... player.

Posted by: #6NOTBRANCH | April 20, 2007 07:08 AM "

"But the main point is you DO NOT pick a player at #6 who is just a big guy. We could get Kris Jenkins or Ian Scott for that.

You have to find impact players at #6, and Branch is described as a beast, but a run stuffer/OT distractor is never worth a #6.
So if we really like him, he should be avail after 15 or so, so trade down and pick up extra picks.

About your arguement that Okoye being the only player on his team that was any good, does that speak more to his skill than detract from it? Branch among other good players means he benefits from them, but only getting 25 tackles. Okoye rackin up the numbers while he was most likely Double teamed since, as you say, he was their only good player.

You jumped, but I just dont think your heart was in the arguement.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 08:25 AM "

"Skinz;

I agree the numbers of a combine do not play out. But coming in out of shape says something about you.....
Posted by:

#6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 08:56 AM"

"understand your point Bucktown. I still cant get over the fact he came into the combine out of shape. Whether it is an injury, or just the fact that he did not think enough to stay in shape, both spell bad news.

We have seen so many DT that were supposed to be great, Ryan Sims comes to mind, playing along players like Julius Peppers, but ended up as busts. Teams can run away from him in college since the ends wont be as good. But what about in the NFL? They will run at him eventually, and will he be able to make the play? Maybe that was part of Primtimes prob here in DC, people started to throw at him after so many years of staying away. He showed that he was not all that great, anymore.

Maybe Branch makes Carter better by taking Double teams, and gives room to LFB to make tackles, but I still say not at 6.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 09:26 AM"

"Sorry CLoad;
Agree to disagree;

I will never want a kid who only gave his 92%. No way, no how.

Also, 40 times mean nothing for Dlineman.

Branch: He ran his two 40s in 5.07 and 5.08 and also recorded a 27½-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-11 long jump and 33 bench presses. At Michigan's Pro Day, he had a 4.79 short shuttle and 7.56 three-cone drill

Okoye:40-yard dash, posting a time of 5.07, and didn't do the short shuttle. He did do 29 bench presses and worked out again at Louisville's Pro Day, running under 5.00 in the 40 and recording a 4.44 short shuttle

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 10:14 AM "

"Thanks to Wagman bringing the differing opinion on Branch who has seen UM's games.

I know the draft is hype, and the combine is hype.... but when multiple different sources start reporting the same thing on a guy, then sometimes, most of the time it is true.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 20, 2007 03:48 PM "

So sween, I say in the one line, 'from the sportscenter epi about Dline in the draft' and base everything else off of a source and gut feeling. So I feel 'the persuasiveness of the assertion is consistent with the reliability of the intelligence.'

So your line that it tires and bores you really just seems like you are taking a shot to take a shot.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Actually, I responded to your desparate cry for help "If we pick Branch, I will kill myself".
Your despair was rooted in the belief that he was out of shape at the combine, yet we was stronger than Okoye and ran as fast as Okoye.
Can you at least consider coming down from the ledge? You don't need to want Branch, or think that he's a solution. Just stay alive, man!

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 23, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Johnson, Landry, Okoye, more picks I'm down with it all.

Should be fun to watch it all unfold!

Posted by: JoeyV | April 23, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

And I also think there is room for logical reasoning in discussing what a player will bring, unless there is no supporting evidence. We are all obviously intelligent enough to know how to read between the lines of reports about a player who has drug problems, arrest issues, weight issues, taking plays off issues etc...and use said logical reasoning in place of first-hand facts, which none of us have.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Okay Cload;

I have come down, but that was my opening remark, so I understand. But I felt my other remarks after that one statement had some validity from the information I heard on ESPN.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Yes, definitely do not kill yourself if the Skins pick Branch. Otherwise, maybe I was scanning it all too quickly. When I went back over cload's post in that thread, I did see I read those too quickly.

Back to me (isn't that the privilege of being a guy anyway?) ... in the dcsween trade way down scenario (trading #6 all the way out of the first round for three day one picks), neither Branch, Okoye, nor Landry will be available. I thus assure myself that I would never need to kill myself.

#6DoubleEL, no offense intended. I'm just with Old School ... it doesn't matter who they pick, as long as they pick right (where hindsight is the privilege of being a fan).

Q. How many guys does it take to put in a lightbulb?

A. Just himself and a chair ... he holds the lightbulb up to the socket and the world revolves around him.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Why isn't Mark Mosely in the HOF?

Posted by: ES | April 23, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't he the MVP of the League?

Where is the outcry?

Posted by: ES | April 23, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

sween, I know everyone always needs to get more depth, but if you trust them to get three decent players with mid-round picks why not trust them with one elite pick? I'd love to move down ~10 spots to get a second rounder, but once you get past the mid-second round, you're talking about special teamers who might be ready to make an impact in a year or two.

Posted by: cload and daggar | April 23, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Why isn't there a new thread yet today?

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 23, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

After reading this, my mind is made up about this year's draft.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2844964&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos2
Either use the #6 on Landry or take an offer to trade down for additional picks.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 23, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

cload, my preference is pure statistics ... and the bit about how even a blind pig finds an acorn sometimes. Its a question of complete trust in finding one impact guy with one choice vs. trust in the random chance in them finding one impact guy out of three choice.

Also, I'm not totally convinced that the difference between elite (in the first round) and impact (in the second/third rounds). Though I'm a constant defender of Double Move (b/c of the double screws), I do admit a little bit of buyer's remorse on that #9 pick, esp. when the Skins found someone like Cooley in the third round.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I have a good friend who is close with LaVar. I spoke with him last week and it looks like LaVar is going to play in Baltimore or retire. LaVar resides in Annapolis and with his 3 young kids he wants to be able to stay close and not go away. I think he could be a good fit to replace Thomas in Baltimore.

Posted by: Take it for what it is worth | April 23, 2007 10:12 AM

With all those injuries, I think he could be a good fit to replace Larry Flynt in New York.

Posted by: SMACK | April 23, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Why isn't Mark Mosely in the HOF?

Posted by: ES | April 23, 2007 11:17 AM

Wasn't he the MVP of the League?

Where is the outcry?

Posted by: ES | April 23, 2007 11:32 AM

Posted by: ES | April 23, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

This will be the first and last time i say this.... Fat lenny P is right on the money with that article.

So, maybe the name isnt #6NOTBRANCH, but instead should be #11-20BRANCHOKAY.

But even then I know our FO likes the somoan out of UTAH (from a long since retired article on Redskins.com) so if we trade down, and get a late 2nd or early third, They should go after him.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

JonTPK126--Whoa, big guy. I just clicked through that Pasquarelli article and this is his complete case against drafting Okoye: "The other highly regarded tackle prospect, Louisville's Amobi Okoye, is only 19 years old. He is also one of the three players alleged to have acknowledged past marijuana use during the combine interviews. That alleged indiscretion might not be as significant a factor for scouts as Okoye's age. He will be the youngest player ever selected in the modern era draft, and though his maturity is estimable, the fact is he's barely old enough to vote, let alone decide which gap to slant into on the pass rush."

Not old enough to vote? Too young to decide which gap to slant into? What does his age have to do with it?

Pasquarelli is one of the few people who is worse than Dan Snyder at making personnel decisions. I'd love to see Okoye line up for the Redskins at #6.

Posted by: KK | April 23, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

a player who thinks he "might" retire is already retired. It takes a ton of guts to play in the league, having "the want to" I just don't see that in lavar.

Posted by: Old School | April 23, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

#6DoubleEL--

You drinking the Pasquarelli koolaid too? Come on. What does his age have to do with it? Pasquarelli didn't give a single reason related to his on- or off-field performances not to draft him.

Posted by: KK | April 23, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

KK -
I think the argument Fat Lenny is making leans more towards the fact that in general DT's are not a good high draft pick investment (1-10) rather then any individual weaknesses or indiscretions a player has. Fat Lenny just can't help but take a few jabs when the opportunity presents itself.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 23, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

JonTPK126 - That Len P article could just have easily been written about WR's or QB's drafted high. You just never know until they get on the field. Personaly, considering their needs on the DL I'd rather they take a chance on a big guy.

Posted by: skinswest | April 23, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Sorry KK, I was referring to the Branch portion of the article. Okoye might be a bust, might not. I dont think we need DT, so a DE or Landry should be our pick with #6.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Skinswest -
I agree we should take a chance on a big guy...just not at #6. Top 10 draft picks are huge financial investments and should be reserved for as close to 'sure things' as possible. To my estimation, CJohnson & LLandry are the only top 10 can't miss prospects, and our greater need exists on D.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 23, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

JonTPK126 - If that were his point -- then he would have some data on the percentage of DT's who are busts versus other positions. Like skinswest says, you can say that about any position.

I don't think that was his point. I think it was his typical random, stream-of-counscionsness (or unconcsiousness in his case). How can you dismiss Okoye on the basis that he did -- "just barely old enough to vote." That's actually one of his main strengths -- big upside.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

To me, Len Pasquarelli's writing has always seemed a little trigger happy ... like the only exercise he gets is jumping to conclusions, whether about the draft or events (and their impacts) during the season. I know alot of people have strong feelings about him, but that just translates into having a big readership.

I know this isn't about the Skins (and only barely about football), but I'm just doing my part on getting to 50K by draft day.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I like Okoye and would love to see him in Burgundy & Gold. Just not at #6. I will waste no more brain cells defending Fat Lenny's article.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 23, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Sorry -- unsigned 12:13 was by me.

Jon -- I don't think there's any such thing as a "can't miss" prospect. They're all risks. Okoye seems no riskier to me than Landry.

#6Double El -- Agree with you on the Branch info (if it's accurate) but I'm not sure that we need an impact safety more than we need an impact DT. I do agree we need an impact DE more than either.

Posted by: KK | April 23, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

KK -
I agree, which is why I included the words "as close" to sure things as possible.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 23, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I wastched the Best damn sports show top 50 football plays ans they showed the Lavar Arrington diving over the offensive line to stuff the run play.

I wish things would have worked out better for him.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | April 23, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

What? No new post from Jason today about his afternoon at the SugarPops concert? Did he get arrested for yelling "Freebird"? No Cindy this morning either - maybe she is still trying to get him bailed out?

Posted by: F Styx | April 23, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne--

That Arrington play was at Penn State, wasn't it? My recollection was that he tried the same thing here once and he whiffed -- leaving a big hole where he was supposed to be. It's a great play when it works, but a disaster when it doesn't.

Posted by: KK | April 23, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Yeat it was while he was at PEnn. They also showed Brandon Lloyd making a one handed grab while spinning his body the opposite way.

I guess the lights werent in his eyes that day

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | April 23, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Penn State is over-rated as a "premier football factory"? Seems like they have a pretty good system for making average players look like stars in college ball, but who don't seem to do anything special in the NFL. Larry Johnson of KC has been pretty impressive as a pro but who else from Penn State has made it that big lately? LaVar isn't even on the PSU Famous Alumni List.

Posted by: F Penn State | April 23, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully the Skins aren't looking at Paul Positivelyspecialteamer as a potential draftee/LB prospect either.

Posted by: F Penn State | April 23, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

KK;

I might agree with DE more than S. I originally started saying on this blog that PP was a fine player at SS.

But when thinking that AA was brought in b/c of an supposed need for an upgrade, and then PP showed to be better, but maybe we still need LL if PP really isnt the answer. I guess it comes down to whether what our FO says about PP last year was covering their AH, or if they were sincere in their praise of PP.

I am not sold either way. I dont think Adams is going to work in our system, so I hope he goes b4 #6. If Landry is there, I say take the best player avail at a position of need, especially if he will be impact, as most of the talking heads think.

I dont think any other DE is worth 6. Hence the name #6DoubleEL... not plain L2.

But based upon the post many moons ago from Daniels who said the lack of pass rush was not b/c of DL (which he could jhust be covering his A) but coverage behind them, then I say we dont take DE in the first round.

But as always with the draft, you take a pinch of truth, mix it with enuendo and a slice of rumor, then top it off with some shavings of BS, then you might be able to figure out what the F is going on.

That made my head spin... how bout yours?

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Making my way thru the Big 10/11/12, does anyone know who was the last big star quarterback in the NFL who went to Ohio State? I'm thinking maybe Troy Smith should work on his defensive backfield skills.

Posted by: F OSU | April 23, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

...or if they were sincere in their praise of PP.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 01:05 PM

I agree...there is nothing better than a good PP

Posted by: Elton John | April 23, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

A prime example of why Old School is right - let the skins pick whomever as long as they get it right.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6688022

Worst pick: T Andre Johnson, Round 1, Pick 30, 1997

Johnson never played for the Redskins, instead appearing in four games as a Lions player before vanishing. Here's a line of busted first-rounders: Desmond Howard (No. 4 overall), Tom Carter (No. 17), Heath Shuler (No. 3), Michael Westbrook (No. 4), and Johnson.

Quite the rogues gallery of blown first rounders. To think that they traded UP for two of those guys. sheesh!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

A Drug Store parking lot has space for 1000 cars. 2/5 of the spaces are for compact cars. On Tuesday, there were 200 compact cars and some standard size cars in the parking lot. The parking lot was 3/4 full.
How many standard size cars were in the parking lot?

Posted by: loco mullin | April 23, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

550?

Posted by: skinswest | April 23, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Loco;

550

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

350.

Posted by: CC | April 23, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

That's one BIG drug store.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

#6DoubleEL --

I guess my head's spinning. Maybe something else, or maybe a different head.

I feel like we're all just playing with ourselves waiting for Saturday, and for next Monday when we can authoritatively propound on where they went wrong.

I thought Peter King had it right this morning -- how can the draft be the second most important day in the NFL calendar?

Posted by: KK | April 23, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey there! Jason plans to post shortly...He'll have a full report on the 'Bops as well as draft intrigue. All I can tell you about the concert is that someone shouted "Freebird" before he could, a member of Insider nation said hi to him and Chloe loved the 'Bops so much that she threw her little diaper on stage.

Posted by: Cindy | April 23, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Damn, these Wonderlic questions tear me up.

Posted by: V. Young | April 23, 2007 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least she didn't throw a PPTP on stage - whew!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

(That last comment was a token post to unleash sfskin's inner 12-year old.)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

beep beep . . .

New Post.

This has been a test. Had it been an actual alert, you would have been directed to refresh your browser and make your way to the new thread. This has been a test of the emergency blogcast system. This was only a test.

Posted by: Conelrad | April 23, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

This is for all of you Landry BAndwagon peeps who don't know what we have on our team:

"The Redskins need a young defensive lineman or two, badly. They could also use a more productive No. 2 receiver and a true quality left guard. But some draftniks still believe that they'll use the sixth pick on April 28 on LSU safety LaRon Landry.

Not if Pierson Prioleau can help it.
Prioleau, 29, was going to start Washington's 2006 opener ahead of highly-touted free agent signee Adam Archuleta. However, Prioleau suffered a season-ending knee injury on the opening kickoff. Archuleta bombed and the Redskins wound up starting the aging Troy Vincent and career special teamer Vernon Fox on the strong side in the second half of the season after neither had even been in More camp with the team.

More than seven months after his injury, Prioleau is excited about his health and his shot to start in 2007. Archuleta and Vincent are gone although the Redskins have re-signed Omar Stoutmire, the fourth safety in 2005 behind Sean Taylor, Ryan Clark (now with Pittsburgh) and Prioleau.

"Everything's on schedule," Prioleau said. "I'm doing all the football-related running: sprints and lateral moves. I'm lifting 300 pounds with the leg I hurt. I haven't had a major setback. I won't say I'm 100 percent until I get back on the field, but I think it's just the formality of me passing a physical for me to get fully cleared."

Since Prioleau -- a Buffalo regular under Washington assistant head coach/defense Gregg Williams in 2002 -- is the only candidate from among Stoutmire, Fox and little-used 2006 rookie Reed Doughty to have started even half a season in the system, he figures to have the first shot at the job alongside Taylor this summer.

But that's not how Prioleau sees it.

"There's more of an opportunity to win the job then there was this time last year when you knew that Adam had the edge," Prioleau said. "But the rest of those guys were all on the field last year and I wasn't so I see myself as the underdog.""

Posted by: ES | April 23, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

My primary effort this week ... keep my expectations for the draft very, very low (hence, the dcsween trade way down scenario). Lowered expectations means exciting results.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe we are still holding onto a pick in the 1st round. This is ridiculous. Don't worry since I still have 5 days to make some nice moves. I am thinking #6 for 3 6th rounders and a 7th.

Posted by: Vinny Cerrato | April 23, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

My biggest problem is that with all this nice weather we have been having Dan has me doing all of this yard work on top of being his racquetball partner this week. Luckily I am well experienced in evaluating prospective NFL players and color coding binders to each position.

Posted by: Vinny Cerrato | April 23, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm a f'n pimp! The secondary would be nasty with me back there!

Thanks for all of your support.

Posted by: LaRon Landry | April 23, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

For anyone who is still thinking/wishing/dreaming that LaVar will ever return to play for the Redskins, read this article from redskins.com. Please notice how many times LaVar's name is prominently mentioned.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=25699

Posted by: V. Putin | April 23, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

The 24 hours Kinko's sets aside a room for me each year between January and April so I can work with no distractions. They suggested I use only February through April in case we are in the playoffs. No need to worry about that I told them.

Posted by: Vinny Cerrato | April 23, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey Vinny - You and Gregg ought to get together and have a color-coded binder party.

Posted by: Adam A. | April 23, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Jason LaC just posted an article. My fave part is ... "Some parties involved in Washington's draft process have ranked Landry, Okoye and defensive ends Jamaal Anderson (Arkansas) and Gaines Adams (Clemson) -- in that order -- as the best defensive players available, and probably the only four worthy of selecting as high as sixth overall."

From the reading here recently, "some parties involved" could just as easily mean "the Redskins Insider blog consensus".

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

By "just posted," I meant to say "posted yesterday".

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Let's get some aerial photos of Potomac River waterfront property today before any yard work takes place. We need an accurate current tree count.

Posted by: J. Muir | April 23, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Sad that Casey has erased LaVar from the draft history on the Redskins web-site.

Posted by: Tony | April 23, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

You guys are the worst. You think we will still get LAndry?!?!?

Hope off now and I'll help you up on my dfensive bandwagon........

Posted by: ES | April 23, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

LaVar who?

Posted by: Dale Lindsay | April 23, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Funny stuff up here so far today... everybody's antsy and giddy about the draft this weekend. Oh, it's finally here! Thank goodness.

We need a new post to stoke the fire. My kingdom for some insider knowledge! Or for a review of the kiddie music experience.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 23, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

LaVar - You'll always have a job with Easterns Automotive Group...

Posted by: Where your job is your credit! | April 23, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Someone ("ES") kept asking about Mark Mosely's ommission from the Hall of Fame: The reason he is not enshrined is simple. It's the Perm. Mosely's tragically poor judgment in opting for a "Permanant" while in the midst of an arguably Hall-of-Fame career indeed squelched any chance of his entry into the esteemed halls of Canton. Whoever remembers this knows I'm right. Speaking of hair, what's that thing on Casey Husband's head? Maybe that's what's affecting his memory...

Posted by: Goldenfried | April 23, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Nate, paragraph 9 is your insider knowledge ration. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/21/AR2007042101259.html Now don't get greedy.

Dale Lindsay who?

Gil Brandt has an interesting bit about special teamers today ... which I guess is something to think about leading up the draft. http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/expert/brandt/st The first guy he talks about is Nick Folk, about whom I remember the Skins expressing some interest. He also starts the article with stuff about special teams coaches, but no props for Danny Smith. Danny Smith is one my favorite Skins coaches ... complete spark plug on adreneline overdrive the entire game. Improvement in special teams performance was, for me, one of the bright spots from last season.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I realize I'm on thin ice up here, having complained about one of the WaPo writing persons (Wise), raised the spectre of Movable Type problems (reported by several) AND whined about a new post. This has not been a great thread for me. Hoping to rally.

This is a big week, and no matter what else happens, by Saturday there will be some Real News flooding the blog. Yee-haw.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 23, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Yes sween;

I do believe we saw the first blocked punt by a skins team since 1999...mayb not, but it feels like it was that long ago.

Posted by: #6DoubleEL | April 23, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

sween, totally agree on Danny Smith. Last season whole games would go by without a flag on a kick return. Best I've felt about our special teams since... I guess since Brian Mitchell was back there returning every punt 11 yards and every kickoff 22 yards.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 23, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Nate, that's just part of it. We had both a punt and a kick returned for touchdowns. More importantly, and this is what special teams is really for (other than the part about kickers making the FGs when they need to), the Skins seemed like -- on balance -- they ended up with the better field position on changes of possession (relative to their previous possession, as well as the field position of the opponent).

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

With Saunders insisting on his passing O over his rushing O, with the result of many more 3 and outs, great special teams play (esp. at field position) became critical.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep, New Post.

You may refresh your CPU page, now.

Posted by: Geeves | April 23, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

beep beep, new post, this is not a test, this is an actual new post.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

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