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Let The Slotting Begin

Could be a long night for the Skins and LaRon Landry. In fact, probably will be. The chips have started to fall at the top of the NFL draft and the heavy lifting will begin with Landry, Washington's top pick, now.

Teams and agents can spend the afternoon studying the contracts signed by Gaines Adams - at 4th overall - and Jamaal Anderson, at 8th overall. Both are defensive players. Both contracts will contain lots of clauses, figures and language that would apply to Landry, who was taken smack dab in the middle of those two players at 6th overall.

Gotta think it'll end up being a 5 year deal with about $17 million guaranteed, perhaps with some of the Sean Taylor escalators - that take the base salary to the $10-million range for each first-team Pro Bowl selection - and relatively low base salaries otherwise. (This ain't rocket science we're talking here).

Going to stick my prediction of a deal by Friday afternoon, and will make more calls on this one later in the day after the sides can fully digest the details of the other top-10 contracts.

By Jason La Canfora  |  July 26, 2007; 2:00 PM ET
 
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Posted by: tb | July 26, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Uno!

Posted by: Donkey | July 26, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Uno!

Posted by: Donkey | July 26, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: TB | July 26, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

jason, if you, a sensible person is saying $17 mil. then you gotta believe it'll be $20 mil+. these are the skins de snyder!

Posted by: dealer | July 26, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

What's Dee Snyder got to do with the skins?

Posted by: Confused | July 26, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

1 1 1 1 = 15 binary.

Now that's slotting .... ;)

Posted by: periculum | July 26, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

mug, try reading the whole thing, not just parts of it:

"Because I'm pretty sure thats why Ron Mexico was hosting dog fights and buying pit bulls. The entertainment"

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | July 26, 2007 01:56 PM

Greg, you need an English lesson from sfskin. I don't have the time or patience to explain how you are implying fact in your statement.

Jason, so Sean Taylor didn't get any escalators for his probowl appearance last year? Even after the Brian Moorman hit?

Posted by: mugamack | July 26, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

"What's Dee Snyder got to do with the skins?"

HOT bod, who cares?

Posted by: periculum | July 26, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

JLaC - What about McCardell?

Posted by: 4th | July 26, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

How come the skins don't trade down for 2 or even 3 picks? There's some football players in the middle rounds, they obviously can't properly evaluate the top picks (Arrington, Shuler, Westbrook, Howard etc. etc.)so why not hedge and take a bunch of guys and look for that low cost gem?

Posted by: Seabags | July 26, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Flag on the play;

Incessant bickering, 5 yards on jm220 (DMGO), Greg (Boston)and mugamack;

You guys are arguing about semantics, cant we all just get along (ooohh, flag on me for using that TIRED saying)

Posted by: Zebra | July 26, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Expert: John McKinzie
Date: 12/20/2006
Subject: contacting Daniel M. Snyder(2)

Question
I assume you are a skins fan. I want to speak to Mr. Snyder personally. I have an idea that will help the skins immeasurably. I need the phone number of a personal assistant or executive who can help me. Thanks John.


_________________________________________________


Hi Dee,
Thanks so much for your question.

Yes, I am a huge, die-hard Redskin fan.

I'm sure that Dan Snyder is deluged with advice about what can be done to help the Redskins. You are not the first one, and probably the last, to write me wanting to help to team in some way.

You can call Redskin Park at 703-726-7000. Some fans have found it easier to contact Joe Gibbs and they talk to Gibbs' secretary.

Remember, Mr. Snyder is a very busy man so don't be disapointed if you don't get through to him personally.

If you would like to write to Dan Snyder or anyone else, here is the address.

Redskin Park
21300 Redskin Park Drive
Ashburn, VA 20147

Make sure you add the name of the person you are writing at the top of the address.

Please, I would like very much to know what happens.

I hope this helps and if you have any more questions, please feel free to ask me anytime.

Thanks again,
John McKinzie

Posted by: periculum | July 26, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Seabags,

How about Samuels, The Reaper, Cambell and Champ Bailey. (Not here but still a stud)?

These guys were all picked by the skins in the last 10 years and they've turned out OK.

Posted by: etrdo | July 26, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"I'm pretty sure" = Fact.

Who knew.....

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | July 26, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Dow down 400.
Nasdaq down 77
S&P down 48.

Completely ruining the Kate Beckinsale b'day mojo.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 26, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

my blogging is rusty.

Posted by: etrod | July 26, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

ETROD! You ever heard of the Neil Young live album "Rust Never Sleeps"? It does when Sean Taylor tells it too.

Posted by: dcsween | July 26, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

"Please, I would like very much to know what happens."

LMGO.

Posted by: mugamack | July 26, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

"How about Samuels, The Reaper, Cambell and Champ Bailey. (Not here but still a stud)?"

Not to mention Ramsey.

They seem to have had better luck on the defensive side of the ball with 1st round picks of late. Previously way too many seemed to be busts. This may explain the Redskin's tendency to trade / go for free agents on offense and use the higher picks in the draft for defense? Makes sense too give that defensive players command less in compensation than offensive skill players with the exception of cornerbacks perhaps?

Posted by: periculum | July 26, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Samuels=False start

Reaper= Beaten deep, stupid penalties

Campbell=unproven (see Patrick Ramsey)

Champ=Gone (you said it)

I want my $40 mill back

Posted by: Seabags | July 26, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

4-12 - Too skinny for me....

Posted by: 4th | July 26, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Anyone have any guesstimates on the over/under for wins this season?

7?

Landry's salary will be competitive with picks 3 & 4, not 7 & 8. good thing I love those $6 dogs at the park.

Posted by: Pub Golf | July 26, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Samuels = 3 pro bowls
Taylor = 2 pro bowls, 1 dead punter
Campbell = unproven (see Tom Brady)
Champ = Clinton Portis.

Oh, and we can't trade down because the draft was in April.

Posted by: etrod | July 26, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Main Entry: sea·bag
Pronunciation: 'sE-"bag
Function: noun
: as bad as getting teabagged may be, at least it doesn't smell like dead fish

Posted by: Anonymous | July 26, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: dcsween | July 26, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Honestly I think Chris Samuels has been playing very well and is a big contributer on the line. I don't remember many games last season where he committed a lot of false starts. Now if he has, I'm sure someone will post and tell me the game.

That was me not on the kool-aid.

Posted by: the don | July 26, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the note on when they conduct the draft.

Tom Brady was a 6th rounder which is the point I was trying to make.

Killing punters doesn't do much in the win column and Pro Bowls are popularity contests.

Posted by: Seabags | July 26, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - "Spencer reportedly has signed a five-year, $9 million contract. The contract includes $6 million in guaranteed money."

Posted by: 4th | July 26, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Seabags,

Go to NFL.com and look at the last couples of years and the first round picks. I doubt you would hit a 50% success rate for ANY year.

So it is specious reasoning to say that the Redskins suck at drafting by looking at their failures. You need to encompass the league as a whole to get a good representative control group.

Posted by: Zebra | July 26, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Zebra

But that's the whole point, you gotta pay $10 mill in guaranteed money and it's a crap shoot. I'd rather gamble with more lower round guys.

Posted by: Seabags | July 26, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Hard to grade the Redskins drafts when they never have any picks. They have done ok with the very few we had. Camp can't start soon enough so we don't have to yell at each other about Ron Mexico or draft picks from 5 years ago.

Posted by: cdubb | July 26, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - "Spencer reportedly has signed a five-year, $9 million contract. The contract includes $6 million in guaranteed money."

Posted by: 4th | July 26, 2007 02:52 PM

Lock it in. Championship!

Thanks 4th, you are the bearer of good news. Now tell me we cut Greg Eldest and Blozell Adams.

Posted by: SMACK | July 26, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Samuels false starts and struggles were primarily during the Spurrier era, when O-line was-shall we say-not a priority.
Before and after that he has played at a very high level. Ramsey is not a good example either since we have no idea what he could have been. He never had a chance here playing in Steve Spurrier's system and after that he was completely undermined by St. Joe. Confidence is a major factor in a QB's success and Ramsey was completely stripped of his.

As far as Westbrook, Shuler and Howard go, they were drafted under a different regime and have no place in this discussion.

dcsween will tell you that in a Sean Taylor discussion, logical arguments are powerless against me so don't even waste your time.

Logic used to be magic until Sean Taylor laid the wood to it.

Posted by: etrod | July 26, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Amen

Posted by: Anonymous | July 26, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Logic used to be magic until Sean Taylor laid the wood to it.

Posted by: etrod | July 26, 2007 03:06 PM

LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | July 26, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

anybody think that Bo jackson could run over Sean Taylor the way he did the Boz?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 26, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Seabags,

Back during the draft I remember reading an article (that referenced a study) that supports the general rule that second and third round picks are a much better value than first rounders.

I also recall that the Redskins were entertaining trading up or down. They didn't, because there was little interest in trading picks prior to draft day.

I think many of the teams are wise to the hype (and cost against the cap) of those first round picks.

Posted by: Stumped | July 26, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Bo Jackson would run over Sean the same way Ferrotte ran over FedEx field. Oh wait. That didn't happen.

Posted by: the don | July 26, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Seabags has a point. if your second and third rounders dont work, its easier to dump their contracts. isnt that what happened with the WR from florida (his name escapes my mind)?

Posted by: Armo | July 26, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

The Bills' punter was Brian Atheist before Reaper laid the wood. Then he became Brian Moorman.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 26, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

what ever happened to the brunell in Atlanta rumor. can we throw in Springs and next years 1st rounder for deangelo hall?

Posted by: armo | July 26, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Minimally, at the end of the draft you have a larger pool of talented players, though not first rounders, and it improves your odds of getting some winners. Probably for less money.

Posted by: Stumped | July 26, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Taylor Jacobs? Yes, fortunately, he was directed to escape from Washington.

Joe Gibbs was saying that the draft spots that teams coveted (at least in this year's draft) were in the second and third rounds.

The fix to the salaries woes for first round draft picks should be caps. The NFL is an unregulated monopoly as it is ... so everything that matters has to be in the CBA. The players should go for it (and require that the teams but the excess savings aside for debilitated retired vets). Briggs has been ticked off about the cash b/c he was a lower round draft pick and the Bears were paying peanuts in relative terms for his performance to date.

Posted by: dcsween | July 26, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

typo "... player should require that teams PUT the excess ..."

Posted by: dcsween | July 26, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Here's the article to support your point Seabags.

The evidence:
http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2005/04/economics_of_nf.html

Some light reading on the subject.

Posted by: Stumped | July 26, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Bring on the second rounders.

Posted by: Stumped | July 26, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

"He never had a chance here playing in Steve Spurrier's system and after that he was completely undermined by St. Joe. Confidence is a major factor in a QB's success and Ramsey was completely stripped of his."

I think "St. Joe" tried very, very hard. But from the beginning St. Patrick tried to get traded. Yes Joe brought in Brunell. Who the SJK else was there at QB besides Ramsey? We saw what happened there when Ramsey went down under Spurrier. Ramsey then refused to learn to be a real pro QB from guys who have helped others do it. He had terrible pre-seasons and did not put the effort out that Jason Campbell has. It showed prominently while Ramsey was with the Jets. Perhaps he thought the old coots didn't have a clue? Newsflash neither does Ramsey. Ramsey needs to admit that and start over before it is too late and he gets pigeon-holed.

Posted by: periculum | July 26, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Taylor Jacobs netted us Mike Rumph in the trade with SF. Awful WR and awful CB. Delete from memory.

Posted by: cdubb | July 26, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"As far as Westbrook, Shuler and Howard go, they were drafted under a different regime and have no place in this discussion."

But Gardner does. Great choice by Marty! He also picked Ramsey I think. I think that is why SD was very careful about not allowing Marty to pick players and to a certain extent, coaches. Marty of course did not like that. And now its Norv.

Posted by: periculum | July 26, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

How come the skins don't trade down for 2 or even 3 picks? There's some football players in the middle rounds, they obviously can't properly evaluate the top picks (Arrington, Shuler, Westbrook, Howard etc. etc.)so why not hedge and take a bunch of guys and look for that low cost gem?

Posted by: Seabags | July 26, 2007 02:19 PM

Uh, the draft was three months ago, Dum-Dum. And no one wanted to trade up so the Skins couldn't trade down anyway.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious | July 26, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Jason,

What's up with Brunell and Atlanta?

Any word from your insiders?

Posted by: periculum | July 26, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or is it becoming apparent to everyone that Periculum is losing his mind - quickly?

Posted by: Mr. Obvious | July 26, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I heard Snyder wants to sign vick in 2009 after the jailtime and nfl suspensions are over.

Posted by: Armo | July 26, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Marty was out the door before Ramsey.

Posted by: cdubb | July 26, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Mr Obvious,
If you're reading the thread. Your rude comments are identical to a previous post.

(What's more obvious than being redundant?)

If you're looking for news, there isn't any.

Posted by: Stumped | July 26, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Vick, others, plead not guilty to conspiracy. Shocker!

Posted by: SMACK | July 26, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

don't laugh. he just might do it!

Posted by: Armo | July 26, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obvious, do you have a relative in the military? There is a guy who posts here often named Captain Obvious.

Posted by: dcsween | July 26, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Is it just me, or is it becoming apparent to everyone that Periculum is losing his mind - quickly?"

WAY KEWL! Then maybe I could win a Nobel prize like John Nash ... I could see myself as that guy on NUMB3RS ... LOL

Posted by: periculum | July 26, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"Marty was out the door before Ramsey."

Not before he picked Gardner and Ramsey.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 26, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Identical to a previous post? Redundant?

Nah, that NEVER happens here.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious | July 26, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Ramsey was picked by Spurrier, but Gardner was selected by Marty. A bad pick, no doubt, but Marty did follow that up with Smoot in the second. That turned out well for the Skins for a few years.

Posted by: Matt | July 26, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

"Mr. Obvious, do you have a relative in the military? There is a guy who posts here often named Captain Obvious."

Just another name for the guy on Star Trek, Captain Donzel.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 26, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Periculum seems to be in the sane and stable minority here on the blog.

(I don't count myself among them).

Posted by: Stumped | July 26, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Marty picked Rod 50-50 Gardner. He did not pick ramsey

Posted by: Diesel | July 26, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I agree not using Shuler and Westbrook as examples of bad drafting, because they were picked by Norv & Charley. D. Howard, I think is an excellent example because that was Joe Gibbs pick. He couldn't evaluate a WR then, and he can't now. Oh, to have a REAL GM and scouting deparment, again. Bobby Beathard, please come home!

Posted by: Lordthrog | July 26, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

"anybody think that Bo jackson could run over Sean Taylor the way he did the Boz?"

I think that's why Bo had to quit football and could never play baseball again. Bowling over the Boz made him an instant target. I think the Reaper might have had a similar effect on Jackson.

Posted by: periculum | July 26, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Last time I checked, Dee Snyder was some old, ugly, washed-up guy with a bad rock band.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious | July 26, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Bobby Beathard, please come home!
Posted by: Lordthrog | July 26, 2007 04:04 PM

I second the motion. If D Snyder (Twisted Owner) wants to spend money, do it there. And it won't count against the cap.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 26, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

"D. Howard, I think is an excellent example because that was Joe Gibbs pick. He couldn't evaluate a WR then, and he can't now."

Great pro bowl punt returner though. And was there any value inherent in Westbrook and Gardner? Any return on the investment?

Gibbs did help pick guys like Charley Brown, Ricky Sanders, Gary Clark, Art Monk, the smurfs. Except for Monk none were 1st rounders.

Posted by: periculum | July 26, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I was wondering myself whether someone was confusing someone's name for the legendary singer from Twisted Sister.

Posted by: dcsween | July 26, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

"Last time I checked, Dee Snyder was some old, ugly, washed-up guy with a bad rock band."

-- Mr. Obvious

Captain Donzel loves Twisted Sister. And Luna Lovegood too!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 26, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, to what do you refer as the "stable minority"? Is that the race horses that are NOT on steroids or the ones who don't go to the dog food/glue factory?

Posted by: dcsween | July 26, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I think thats Dee Snider. NO relation to Tanya Snyder.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 26, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Beep beep. ANOTHER new post from Jasno. And I got beaten to first on it, blast.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 26, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"I think thats Dee Snider. NO relation to Tanya Snyder.

Posted by: | July 26, 2007 04:14 PM"

Any relation to Tanya Harding? Warren G. Harding? Warren Oates? Hall & Oates? John Hall? John Jacob Jingleheimerschmidt? John Jacob Astor?

Who's sane and stable NOW?

[obvious pumping of the blogpost count]

Posted by: dcsween | July 26, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

In dogfighting parlance, the "stable minority" are the dogs that don't get tortured and then buried out back.

Posted by: Spot | July 26, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Redskins just signed a WR from the lions last year: Corey Bradford.

Posted by: Tony | July 26, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

"Redskins just signed a WR from the lions last year: Corey Bradford."

Posted by: Tony | July 26, 2007 04:23 PM

Mr. Siragusa, welcome to the RI blog ... and see the very next thread. With the attention span of people here, this is already old news.

[I noticed that wikipedia had the news up prior to your post, but I assume Mr. Bradford himself knows how to edit wiki text.]

Posted by: dcsween | July 26, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Captain Obvious is a little uncomfortable at the introduction of a Mister Obvious, so I want to assure everyone that we are only distant relations.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 26, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Who let all these imposters into the house?

Posted by: Roger Redundant | July 26, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Rice just cut from the Bucs, seriously we Have got to get him on the roster, good depth and or starter for probably a decent cost. C'mon this reeks of a good move.

Posted by: Mofass | July 26, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

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