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Like Daniels, Carter will play through biceps pain

Defensive end Andre Carter had extended his left arm to make a tackle during Monday night's loss to the Giants, when the ball carrier pushed back. Carter's arm bent backwards, and he heard what he later called "a pop, a snap" in his upper arm.

He immediately guessed that he had torn his biceps, having heard fellow defensive lineman Phillip Daniels describe his own torn biceps with teammates. Daniels has played through the injury, which he suffered during a loss to Carolina in mid-October, and Carter now plans to do the same.

"That first week it was crazy," Daniels said. "Like for 'Dre right now, it's gonna hurt. The first contact, reaching out, it's gonna hurt. But you've just got to know it's just pain. You're not damaging it no more. It's just pain. If you can tolerate that pain, you're gonna be fine.' "

Carter has started 60 of a possible 62 games since joining the Redskins, and while he said he might limit his snaps on Sunday, he's hasn't changed his mind about playing. Carter said it would be harder to play if his right arm were hurt. The injury, he said, feels like a deep bruise, and is especially noticeable during sudden movements.

"When I punch a little bit, you can feel it," Carter said. "I'm trying to be like Phillip Daniels and tough it out. I asked him about it, asked what I needed to do. He just said suck it up. That's his words of wisdom."

Daniels, meantime, considers his own injury healed, and hasn't felt pain since the first game after his injury. He said his strength has entirely returned, and he's not planning on immediate surgery after the season.

By Dan Steinberg  |  December 25, 2009; 5:40 PM ET
 
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Guys,

We know you're tough, but there's no point.

Heal up and come back strong next year. It will be a better coaching staff and a healthier enviorment.

You both have nothing to prove.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 25, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Stanley, you are such an idiot. You don't HAVE to talk to the media about why you choose to do things. Part of your problem is you don't know when to just STFU and you vomit your heart felt ideas all over yourself. "Its between Albert and me" and leave it at that. When they badger you, just ask "any questions not related to Albert?" and then leave the room or pack of reporters when the next idiot reporter follows up with another Albert question.

Second: How late was Albert? I get that you have to try and maintain discipline, but lets face it, Christmas morning with two games left in your HC career is not the time to start breaking all tough guy.

Why not a fine... or here is a wild idea... extra conditioning for Albert? Or is that not allowed per the NFLPA contract?

It seems to me that Albert is pretty pissed off and demotivated by the LAME AZZ way the Redskins as a whole and Zorn in particular have approached the end of the Zorn DEBACLE 09. From Albert's perspective why should he care to show up on time? HE was the only one willing to brawl, Zorn didn't have his back, and the Organization as a whole is dysfunctional. I can't really say I blame him. In his spot, I would be very very tempted to roll in when I was done on Christmas morning with my family, too. Has nobody here just had one of those "F It" mornings and blown off any pretense of being on time?

Apparently he is not two faced enough to keep giving a crap when nobody else does. Its not like HE is auditioning for a spot on a team. There will be one for him.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I agree Ray. This Organization and Coaching Staff is no longer worthy of the players fighting through injury. I get that some of them will continue to fight for each other, but I really see no reason for any injured player to battle to get on the field.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

t seems to me that Albert is pretty pissed off and demotivated by the LAME AZZ way the Redskins as a whole and Zorn in particular have approached the end of the Zorn DEBACLE 09.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe

Hey. That would be DEBACLE '09 ®. Don't be forgetting the apostrophe or the registered trademark thingy (even if its neither trademarked or registered, but wtf)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 25, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, my apologies Zeke. I forgot to give you your earned props for your cogent naming of this season.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Poll: Dumbest move by Zorn this week

1. The fake FG
2. Thomas as returner, where he got injured
3. Sending Albert home

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 25, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't think having Thomas return kicks was dumb at all. Its unfortunate he tweaked his ankle, but i think he is a much better option than Rock, and you need to get teh best players on the field.

Sending AH home was i think not the best approach at this juncture.

CALLING the fake FG was a gutsy move, but probably not the best move. Take the 3.

RUNNING the fake, the SAME fake in an all or nothing proposition with two seconds, AFTER the ginas called a TO was easily the stupidest coaching decision I have ever seen, and that is in tough company this year with Patsies going at Indy on 4th and 2, and Timlin kicking onsides with a two point lead last weekend.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't think having Thomas return kicks was dumb at all.

RUNNING the fake, the SAME fake in an all or nothing proposition with two seconds, AFTER the ginas called a TO was easily the stupidest coaching decision I have ever seen...

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 6:54 PM |

I agree on Thomas returning. Zeke can't let this one go. Beating a dead horse.

I'm still not sure about the fake FG. Watch the replays. Even though the Ginas were tipped off, Fred Davis was open behind the defense. A little more arm and it would have been a TD. If Zorn had put Collins or Campbell out to throw the pass, play could have worked.

Anyway, we lost the game 45-12. WTF difference would it have made if they'd made the FG? 45-15 seems better? A 4-10 team ought to be taking risks like this, especially considering that the other two fake FGs this year resulted in TDs.

Posted by: League-Source | December 25, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Make the FG, change the vibe, you just drove to score and only ran out of time to not get a TD. You're getting the ball first, go down and score and then get a stop... and its a ball game.

IF you must run a fake, at least change the play and run it out of a FG set instead of doing the same shift again.

The reason he couldn't throw the pass well is because a gina knew to bum rush him upon the snap.

The decision was stupid.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Merry Christmas to all…except those with affiliations and/or fans of the Cowboys, Eagles, or Giants.

Christmas/Holiday gifts handed out: All available at Amazon.com

Snyder/Jason Reid From Breakup To Wake Up: A 26-Step Guide To Finding Yourself After Losing Love! (Help Dan get over Vinny & JR over Suisham)

Vinny: nothing, absolutely nothing. (Even coal has value) / Pink slip

Bruce Allen: Working With Difficult People by Muriel Solomon (after working will Al, he probably only needs a refresher)

Zorn: The Complete Idiot's Guide to Understanding Football Like a Pro by Joe Theismann / Pink slip

Blatche: Strength Finder 2.0 (book finds your strengths as well as those you employ, putting yourself and those around you in a position to succeed) / Pink slip

Laron Landry: The Complete Book of Intelligence Tests: 500 Exercises to Improve, Upgrade and Enhance Your Mind Strength (Only thing holding him back)

Albert Haynesworth: 101 Tips To Get Fit & In-Shape And Stay That Way (clearly he signed a fat deal and came in fat & out of shape)

Jason Campbell: William Wallace: Brave Heart by James MacKay (while not a top 10 QB, no one can argue his heart and character)

Clinton Portis: Why Good People Do Bad Things: How to Stop Being Your Own Worst Enemy (Shut up, practice, and return to form)

Cindy Boren: Barbie Dream House

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

LS, I know this is a time for charity but Davis was not open on that play. Smith threw a dead duck. It looked like a punt. The Giant defenders let Davis go as they moved toward the ball. (Remember? They intercepted it? Easily.)

Posted by: mack1 | December 25, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

We get you don't like Zorn. NE fans hated Pete Carroll when he bumbled his way thru coaching the Patriots, but he's done okay coaching USC since then.

Posted by: TheCork | December 25, 2009 5:41 PM |

Your mention of Pete Carroll only serves to buttress the evidence and argument that Z is not HC material. To elaborate, a couple of comments:


1. Carroll worked his way up through the NFL system. First he coached DBs, then was DC, then became HC. All along the way he was coaching groups and learned how to manage group dynamics. As far as I know, Z has only been a QB coach in the NFL prior to becoming Skins HC. He had virtually no experience at managing groups in an NFL type environment/system, let alone a whole team and it showed bad.

2. Carroll never was a successful NFL HC even with all the experience he accumulated. Today if he went to the NFL he would struggle. Reason is his personality is not suited to the pro system. His enthusiasm is more suited to a college atmosphere. Z's personality is similar in that he tries to impart enthusiasm rather than focus and discipline, which is a fatal flaw if you are going to be a pro HC. Plus he has a lot of other fatal flaws as well, like not knowing how to call plays or manage a game.

Z might achieve some kind of success at a Division II school like Portland but with all the negative pub he has gotten on his current assignment I doubt they would offer the job to him.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | December 25, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Steinbog, you're probably not reading this, but if so, thanks for babysitting the RI blog for the holiday. Gotta keep the hamsters fed. Much obliged to you.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 25, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

The reason he couldn't throw the pass well is because a gina knew to bum rush him upon the snap.

The decision was stupid.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 7:54 PM

L-S loves to argue for the sake of arguing. He loves to argue the indefensible.

That fake FG was most ill conceived and is being called the worst trick play in the history of the NFL. That play wouldn't work the next 1000x you tried it.

Zorn said it worked like a dream in practice. That play and quote will be on his coaching tombstone.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I'm reading. Whaddup Nate. Merry merry.

Also, if you like reading stories about Redskins dysfunction, you're going to want to keep clicking refresh on The Post Sports page all night. Trust me on this one.

Posted by: DanSteinberg1 | December 25, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Shanahan wants to coach Cutler and the Bears ... lots of egg on the Post Staff's face if and when that happens ... ~smiles~

Posted by: periculum | December 25, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Buffalo's finest is right. The Skins aim to outdo the Bills and the Raiduh's in dysfunction and drama as Snydley and his crew do the nuclear meltdown. The question is will they end completely blowing up this team and any progress Gibbs made? Yes they will.

Posted by: periculum | December 25, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Simplest of rules. Remember, its all about the Snydley OWL from Rockville. Its always about him. Not about winning, making money, sex ... ;) Its all about him. Kind of like the Joey T of owners.

Posted by: periculum | December 25, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Phillip Rivers and Vince Young both have yet to hit a receiver in stride. I wish some of the Campbell bashers would actually watch other QBs play. Both these guys have at least 4 seconds of protection each. It's simply amazing what a good line will do for you.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 25, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm still not sure about the fake FG. Watch the replays. Even though the Ginas were tipped off, Fred Davis was open behind the defense. A little more arm and it would have been a TD.

Posted by: League-Source

Watch it again, it if doesn't make you ill. Stop the play when Hunter begins to throw. Note where Fed Davis is. He is barely past the of scrimmage. Not sure why the jint defender could run 10 yards to get to Hunter and Davis couldn't get off the line, but if you look at the play, Davis runs about 20 yards with the ball in the air.

The jint defense didn't go deep with Davis because the ball wasn't going to get that far. If the ball had gone deeper, the jint defense would have been there.

As for Hunter throwing it further, he was backpedaling and over 10 yards behind the line -- near the 30 yard line. It took a pretty strong arm to get it as far as he did. It'd take a seriously strong arm to throw it 30-40 yards when backpedaling.

I know some people think I won't let go of the Thomas returning kick thing, but I've been consistent about warning that guys get hurt doing it -- and its not a valuable thing compared to being an every down WR. Last year, Moss pulled his hammy in the series immediately after he took a punt to the house vs Det. Its about priorities and DT11 needs the work as a WR much more than he can be useful returning punts.

To me, that was Zorn's worst decision because it had a biggest impact.

The FG just made Zorn look bad, probably had little impact on the game. Tossing Albert out of practice, not smart, but he's lost the team anyway.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 25, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Newest mock has us going
1. Eric Berry FS
2. Jason Fox OT

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

I'd sign up for this today.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Periculum.. Dont drink and blog..
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Simplest of rules. Remember, its all about the Snydley OWL from Rockville. Its always about him. Not about winning, making money, sex ... ;) Its all about him. Kind of like the Joey T of owners.

Posted by: periculum | December 25, 2009 8:52 PM

Posted by: cliftonbiz | December 25, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm still not sure about the fake FG. Watch the replays. Even though the Ginas were tipped off, Fred Davis was open behind the defense. A little more arm and it would have been a TD.

--

the play was designed to go to Yoder who, after the shift, was lined up over center. One receiver (kelly?) was lined up solo on the right, his pattern cleared the right side.

Yoder snaps the ball, waits a second or two, then releases to the right where he had the whole side of the field open. he had also beaten his man. Unfortunately, by the time this happened, Hunter was about to get killed, so he (understandably) panicked and heaved it down the left sideline. One more second and that play hooks-up. Of course - one more second and we need a new punter...

Merry Christmas everybody. Here's to an unlimited 2010.

Posted by: edvar | December 25, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campell/Phillip Rivers. Um sorry but I take Rivers 100 out of 100 times without taking a second to think about it. Guy is right below Manning and Brees. Campbell is middle of the pack and average at best.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | December 25, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I've been hearing a lot about Jason Fox but I haven't seen him play. I would love to have berry if he's still on the board. As much as the rest of the fans would hate that I think it's the right move. I only see 1 elite left tackle on the board. Once he's gone we need to take the best player available in a position of need. If Okung and Berry are gone I'd take Spiller. We can still get a great right tackle/guy that could pan put as a left tackle in the second round.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 25, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Newest mock has us going
1. Eric Berry FS
2. Jason Fox OT

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

I'd sign up for this today.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Me too.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Good article by Stein/Reid

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/25/AR2009122501780.html

Tough to take sides in the Zorn/Blatche vs. Haynie debate.

I’m siding with Haynie. Zorn is a laughing stock and Blatche is a coach that defies statistics. Blatche may consistently rank in the top 10, his scheme is one that doesn’t put players in a position to succeed (LL, CBs playing 10 YDs off, Haynie) and gives up just enough points to lose every week. Can we please fast forward 2 weeks and end this nightmare.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

The skins have a history of playing players out of position or not using the players to the best of their abilities:

Arrington
Landry
Randle El
Archuletta
Taylor
Orakpo
Haynesworth....the list goes on


Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 25, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campell/Phillip Rivers. Um sorry but I take Rivers 100 out of 100 times without taking a second to think about it. Guy is right below Manning and Brees. Campbell is middle of the pack and average at best.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | December 25, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Campbell is average on a good team. He's average right now on a terrbible team. Now of course in fantasy football yeah Rivers is your guy but in real world football I'd take Campbell. He'll draw maybe 5 million a year compared to Rivers's 15 million a year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 25, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Yoder snaps the ball, waits a second or two, then releases to the right where he had the whole side of the field open. he had also beaten his man. Unfortunately, by the time this happened, Hunter was about to get killed, so he (understandably) panicked and heaved it down the left sideline. One more second and that play hooks-up. Of course - one more second and we need a new punter...

Merry Christmas everybody. Here's to an unlimited 2010.

Posted by: edvar

In the NFL, guys run about 10 yards in 1 second. Hunter got hit about 10-12 yards behind the line. I'd guess about 1.5 seconds after the snap. If no one is there to block the defense, Hunter has about half a second to ID the where he wants to throw the ball and begin the throw. Its pure luck if it works.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 25, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Campbell is average on a good team. He's average right now on a terrbible team. Now of course in fantasy football yeah Rivers is your guy but in real world football I'd take Campbell. He'll draw maybe 5 million a year compared to Rivers's 15 million a year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 25, 2009 9:52 PM

I'm going to respectfully disagree.

This is the list
1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Rivers
5. Rodgers
10-15. Campbell

I respect your love for JC, but you have to divorce yourself and look at this objectively. He's average-good, I don't see him ever being great.

I still say tender him and go into next year with as your starter and fix the other more glaring needs.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

It's not really love for him. I don't give a crap about him. I don't even know him. It's just that he's ok and cost next to nothing. I believe that there are maybe 3 great QBs and outside of that the rest are subject to their supporting cast.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 25, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campell/Phillip Rivers. Um sorry but I take Rivers 100 out of 100 times without taking a second to think about it. Guy is right below Manning and Brees.

Posted by: ToddStinkston

Pretty much

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 25, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 25, 2009 10:12 PM

I'm just going by your handle and your never ending defense of him.

I agree that he is the best QB for 2010. Tender him at the 1st or 2nd level and if someone wants him, take the picks. If not you have a 4 mil starting QB and can address other more glaring needs.

If they choose not to tender him and let him walk then that would be irresponsible. He's an asset and after the 2 1st's, 3rd, & 4th to get him, you have to either get another year of service or picks in return.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Well, I'm guessing Blache is not gonna be interviewing for the HC job after all, LOL.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

My handle goes back to a different QB with the number 17. it's kind of funny but he's the same guy JC took his number from. You may remember him as being terrible with the bucs then winning a Super Bowl with the Skins. I agree, if someone else ponies up the picks then we let him go. The thing is that no matter how much we overpaid for him, he was a second round pick. Overpaying for him doesn't make him Peyton Manning. It just makes us stupid.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 25, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Boy, Steinberg, you weren't kidding about that article. Sheesh... I hate this season and can't wait for it to end.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 25, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 25, 2009 10:32 PM

Funny thing about that trip to Auburn was that we drafted Rodgers #9 and Campbell #25, Ronnie Brown went #2, Cadillac Williams went #5, and the best NFL player on that team went #50 overall. Maybe we can get LT Marcus McNeill in FA.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe we can get LT Marcus McNeill in FA."


To me, this is a no brainer.

Securing McNeil opens up how you use the 1st rounder.

With McNeil playing left tackle, you can draft a college left tackle, and move him to right tackle and have a pair of bookends in place.

Your second rouder can be a right guard or running back or middle linebacker.

(If you trade away the 1st pick in '11, you have three picks in rounds 1-2: there's even more you can do.)

Of course, there are other ideas, but I'm not trying to be a 'blog hog' and explain them all.

At least not today.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 25, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Okay, Diesel, you had me stumped (not Stumped, my Portland amigo).

I was trying to figure out how the fiftieth overall pick in the 2005 NFL draft -- Ronald Bartell, a cornerback out of Howard -- was the best NFL player on the Auburn Tigers that year. He would have to have been really damn good to earn that honor while playing for Howard.

But that's not what you were saying at all.

News flash! The NFL draft is a crapshoot. And it's one of the few things we as Redskin fans have to look forward to on the calendar. *sigh*

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 25, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Moe, to your idea of getting a free agent AND using a draft pick on the O line, I was almost going to post that under this front office, signing one dude in free agency takes care of an entire unit.

To wit: signing Derrick Dockery was the beginning and end of our plan to address the grievous issues with the offensive line in the 2009 offseason, so except for giving a cup of coffee to Mike Williams we didn't have to invest anything more (like, say, a day one draft pick) in the O line.

Don't get me wrong, getting Dock back was a good move and all, but their work shouldn't have ended there. Especially since, you know, they said themselves O line was a key area to address.

Anyway, back to 2010... Vinny is out of the picture, so there's no chance we make any mind-boggling missteps in personnel this coming offseason. No chance whatsoever.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 25, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

"...I'm guessing Blache is not gonna be interviewing for the HC job after all..."


Is it too soon to speak ill of the dead.

We sling arrows at Zorn when Blache should also be a target.

Blache's scheme offers little in the way of confusion or use of hybrid looks.

The best usage of the talent he has was in the raiders' game: the result?--sacks galore.

So we wonder who might be the head coach next year.

We also need to think about who or defensive coordinator might be.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 25, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 25, 2009 11:12 PM
Marcus McNeill
NFL Draft: 2006 / Round: 2 / Pick: 50

We drafted Rocky #35 overall that year. Not a bad pick but once again we traded up to get him.

Moe- If they could get McNeill as a FA, that would open up so many possibilities and would provide us with a 2x pro bowler @ LT. Then 1st could be trade back for more picks / Berry / Okung / Campbell / Spiller, etc. That would be the start of a legitimate OL.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Moe... total sarcasm on my part...my point is Blache is even more obviously gone than he was before...and that was purty damn obvious from where i sit.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 11:45 PM

No doubt he's gone and good riddance. I'd be happy to chip in 10 bucks towards another shotgun.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 25, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

What I'm wondering: Did Blache lead the send Albert home movement? It makes sense.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 25, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

This is the list
1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Rivers
5. Rodgers
10-15. Campbell

I respect your love for JC, but you have to divorce yourself and look at this objectively. He's average-good, I don't see him ever being great.

I still say tender him and go into next year with as your starter and fix the other more glaring needs.

*******

Sounds close to me. Campbell is more like 16-20 this year, its not been a good year for him. Too many mistakes and too many situations with 2 minutes to go that he didn't get the score. I think his upside is in the 6-10 area during his career, really elite isn't in the cards.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 25, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

The more I think about it, it totally makes sense that Blache tried to run Albert for being late, because he is all pissed about what Albert had to say after the ginas game. Albert blows him off and gets dressed for practice, goes to the field, and then Blache notices Albert appealing to Zorn. Blache comes over and tells Zorn its him or me, so Zorn takes up for his coach.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 26, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

The more I think about it, it totally makes sense that Blache tried to run Albert for being late, because he is all pissed about what Albert had to say after the ginas game. Albert blows him off and gets dressed for practice, goes to the field, and then Blache notices Albert appealing to Zorn. Blache comes over and tells Zorn its him or me, so Zorn takes up for his coach.

Zorn has a history of not giving a crap what his players say about him(Portis). Blache is the kind of guy who would not appreciate at that sort of thing at all.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 26, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Pretty rough article on Albert/Blache. I think the system Blache runs works. If the players play it. There have been a ridiculous number of missed tackles and horribly blown coverages. The DL has done reasonably well, applying lots of pressure and doing good vs the run.

Its been the DBs and Orakpo at LB that have been the problems on defense.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 26, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

What does it matter, Blache is gone anyway. Al knows this, he has full hand.

I am not a lover of Blache's system myself...

I bet the coaching staff is turned over completely next season.

Posted by: chrislarry | December 26, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Nobody that posts here knows anything about football. JC has handled everything thrown his way with class....especially going out each and every week to get killed because he doesn't have a O-line. give him an O-Line and he would be in the top 5 when you list your QB rankings

Posted by: chicoexcell | December 26, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, cL.. and I can't help wondering how the past two seasons would have been different if Snyder hadn't (allegedly) insisted on keeping the Gibbs staff almost 100% intact, which was (allegedly) a deal-breaker for any of the serious candidates who (allegedly) turned the job down.

To paraphrase Moe above, we sling arrows at everyone else when Snyder should always be our #1 target...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 26, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

chico, I would guess you meant to say that you question the football knowledge of people who post here and claim not to have a single positive thing to say about Jason Campbell's play.

Because if you meant to say "nobody that posts here" then that would include people like me, who have plenty of positive things to say about Campbell's play, along the same lines as what you said (though I would never project Soup into the top 5 in the league just by virtue of having a good O line... top 8, maybe).

Though in my case I'll freely admit not knowing anything about football. So I'm the exception that proves the rule that creates an opportunity for the exception. Such as.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 26, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Nobody that posts here knows anything about football.

Sheesh, I wish somebody would've mentioned that a couple of years ago.

Posted by: daggar | December 26, 2009 1:16 AM | Report abuse

F blache!

F JC and the idiots who still claim he's a good QB...are you guys ever going to run out of excuses for this guy????? EVER???!!! Nate, not talking bout u just responding to the idiot

your top excuses by year for jcs performance:

year 1 excuse: he's a rookie.
Year 2: he's still too young wait till he has a full year
3: new system
4: another new system
5: o line sucks

Posted by: dealer1 | December 26, 2009 2:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: chicoexcell | December 26, 2009 1:01 AM

You're are a football genius. You should enlighten us all and help this team with your intellect.

Campbell could perhaps perform better behind a NFL caliber OL....Wow!

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 26, 2009 3:05 AM | Report abuse

As between Haynesworth and Blache, I'd rather see Haynesworth here next year. But this stunt -- coming in late, getting sent to his room, and whining to Steinbergbog -- is disappointing.

In the middle of the week he was whining about "a lack of leadership" on the team. At the end of the week (what used to be known as Dallas week) he's pouting and sulking and showing that leadership is not his job.

Posted by: League-Source | December 26, 2009 7:12 AM | Report abuse

L-S, are you up early and enjoying ESPN2's HD broadcast of the Barclay's Premier League?

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 26, 2009 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Smack, Is "Barclay's Premier League" a mutual
fund that can save my 301-K plan?

Posted by: League-Source | December 26, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

"And what a Christmas it would be for Birmingham if they could avoid defeat".

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 26, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

"If they could get McNeill as a FA, that would open up so many possibilities and would provide us with a 2x pro bowler @ LT."

Again: this move is a no brainer.

You have to hope the chargers are in a bind where they have several guys to re-up, and decide to let McNeil go.

His signing would open up some very attractive scenarios for the team.

And that's what's so interesting about this offseason: will B Allen decide to be aggressive in free agency or take the draft path of least resistance to rebuild the team?

We'll see.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 26, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

"Nobody that posts here knows anything about football...."

Obviously, the guy who posted this is not qualified to discredit our lack of qualifications.

He doesn't get that bloggas and free speech go together like green eggs and ham.

He won't read our posts in the rain or on a train, or in a box, not even with a fox.

He thinks facts and evidence are the things that make this blog work when b.s. and hyperbole are its obvious fuels.

He doesn't know that the best opinions are grounded in ignorance--at least that's what my racist and homophobic friends say.

So who needs to know a lot about football to talk about football?

I don't.

I know a whole lot about nothing.

Which is why I have so much to say.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 26, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

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