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Lloyd Update

Jason is in traffic, but Jason Reid called to tell us that Brandon Lloyd has a broken clavicle. Bubba Tyer just updated the media....

By Cindy Boren  |  November 14, 2007; 5:16 PM ET
 
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To the IR?

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

He's hurt? How can they tell? What, did he actually catch a pass today? That would sure let them know that something was wrong.

Posted by: groundhogdayguy | November 14, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Right as I posted this on the last post.
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Moss, Thrash and I guess Lloyd (not that it matters) are all week to week. If one of them were out for the year other than Lloyd then it's time to bring in other receivers but anyone you bring in now is not going to play for at least a couple of weeks and by that time he ends up riding the pine because Moss and Thrash are back.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 05:20 PM

Okay maybe now you bring some guys in to take a look at them.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Broken clavicle is typically around six weeks....gotta think this means he's IR-bound, unless they want to keep him available for the playoffs.

Posted by: TheCindy | November 14, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

unless they want to keep him available for the playoffs.

Posted by: TheCindy | November 14, 2007 05:25 PM

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Not the playoffs part but wanting to keep Lloyd available for them. That's hilarious!!!

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Ouch. That's gonna be IR for Floyd. Mike Williams, call your agent.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | November 14, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Un-Floyding-believable! I guess this means Burl Ives is coming up from the practice squad.

Posted by: 4-12 | November 14, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Bigfish! I had worried that Loseable Type would devour the snark with which I wanted to imbue that.

Posted by: TheCindy | November 14, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

bigfish,

As we were saying on the last post -- who do you bring in if not Mike Williams? (I don't have a clue, either, and I actually am a talent evaluator. I know it when I see it, but when I don't see it, I don't know it.)

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 14, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Good thing Lloyd went down when he did. If he'd actually started a few games and people had seen him play, then he probably would have lost all his trade value. Now, well, he's at least as valuable as a pig in a poke.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 14, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

charles rogers?? haha....seriously though

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | November 14, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I hear Darnerien McCants and Rod Gardner are available.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

A Broken Clavicle it takes 12 weeks to recover from it. Looks like Brandon "Bust" Lloyd is out for the Season.

Posted by: nunzio768 | November 14, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

to bad its past the trade deadline... vinnie could send a 3rd and 4th rounder next year to sf to get taylor jacobs back.

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | November 14, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Burl Toler.
Outstanding links from Joe_in_Raleigh, btw.

Posted by: TheCindy | November 14, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Did he at least hang on to the ball?

F Dallas

Posted by: mile.high | November 14, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Taylor Jacobs was picked up by the Broncos last week. SF cut him.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Taylor Jacobs and Patrick Ramsey? Together again? They'll put some points on the board, if they get in the game, of course.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 14, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

If Jacobs is in Denver, that's bad. Vinnie will have to give Denver a lot more to get him back. Denver has Vinnie's number. They play him like a set of bongos.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 14, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

like I said earlier, does this mean anything?

Posted by: goskinsgo | November 14, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I heard Billy McMullen is available.

Posted by: nunzio768 | November 14, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

who's bongos?

Posted by: mile.high | November 14, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Is this the best we got? I guess since we picked this guy up after he was let go by the Raiders then Mike Williams doesn't seem like such a bad idea. At least bring him in and have a looksee. Wouldn't be too optimistic about it though.

http://www.raidersonline.org/burl-toler.php

Colts lose Freeney and there's a guy out there like Simeon Rice. We lose Lloyd and...aww nevermind.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

TE, Good thing it's past the trade deadline. That thought would be scary if it weren't.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Wade phillips 8-1 You idiots said he sucked
Leonard Davis You idiots laughed
Tony Romo you idiots said JC was better
Jerry Jones you idiots hate the genious
Americas Team YOU IDIOTS ACTUALLY THINK THE REDSKINETTES ARE BETTER AND IT KILLS YOU THEYRE NOT!!!!AHH hahahahaha

HOW BOUT DEM COWBOYS!!

Posted by: bigfishsuktroll | November 14, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Can someone remind me when was the last time the Cowboys won a playoff game?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 14, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Nice to know someone admires me enough to include my name in their moniker.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

POSTED 4:53 p.m. EST, November 14, 2007

STEROIDS DISTRIBUTOR SNITCHES ON COWBOYS

The Dallas Morning News reports that the man who pleaded guilty on Tuesday to possession of steroids with intent to distribute has provided to federal investigators the names of former -- and current -- members of the Dallas Cowboys to whom he provided steroids.

David Jacobs, 35, pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with prosecutors in identifying the persons to whom steroids were distributed.

It's an unusual move; usually, prosecutors start with the folks on the bottom of the operation and work upstream. In this case, however, the high profile of Jacobs' customers is prompting authorities to move in the other direction. Celebrities and other well-known people make for desirable targets of such prosecutions because the chilling effect is much more pronounced, due to the media coverage of the situation.

The names of the players in question have not yet been released publicly.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

McMullen even looks a little like Floyd when he's stretching out for the long ball.

Oooh, or another ex-Raider we could try out. I hear he has great moves.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | November 14, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Wade phillips 8-1 You idiots said he sucked
Leonard Davis You idiots laughed
Tony Romo you idiots said JC was better
Jerry Jones you idiots hate the genious
Americas Team YOU IDIOTS ACTUALLY THINK THE REDSKINETTES ARE BETTER AND IT KILLS YOU THEYRE NOT!!!!AHH hahahahaha

HOW BOUT DEM COWBOYS!!

Posted by: bigfishsuktroll | November 14, 2007 06:02 PM

You've got this so backwards. You probably never have read this blog before.

We said Steve Spurrier sucked.
We laughed at Todd Wade, not Leonardo Lewis.
We didn't say JC was better. Well, actually we did -- he walks on water and there's a whole religion on him.
It's not Jerry Jones we hate, it's Dan Snyder.
Try to get your facts straight next time.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 14, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I guess now we know why Leonard Davis got better with the Cowboys.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Heck, activate this guy.

He can probably still go over the middle as well as take out any safety on running plays.

Posted by: SteveMG | November 14, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Which guy hurt Lloyd? I want to thank that man.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 14, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

The Brandon Lloyd epitaph: He broke Redskins fans' hearts, then he broke his clavicle.

Posted by: TheCindy | November 14, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Wow....the pain never ends for us.

I suggest we call Keyshawn and see if he will leave ESPN.

Posted by: Lisa | November 14, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

There's really not much question Lloyd will go on IR. With all of the lingering injuries to the wideouts, they need bodies now. They can't afford to put another player on IR hoping that he can contrubute in six weeks. I know he's been a bust, and I've been as critical of 85 as most, but man this kid just can't get a break it seems.

Posted by: RambleOn | November 14, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

No other player was involved. He caught a pass in the end zone [let the comments begin...] and landed on his shoulder.

Posted by: TheCindy | November 14, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

What a way to end the season for Lloyd. Injured in practice and not a game. How fitting. Where's Henry Ellard and Michael Westbrook when you need them? Jerry Porter is a FA next year, he could fit the Skins need for a big receiver. Berrian from the Bears is also a FA, he could be the downfield threat that Moss hasnt been able to be this season. Or just get somebody in the draft in the third or later rounds. This is unacceptable...

Posted by: ga8085 | November 14, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I know we're joking here about McCants and Gardener, but seriously those two each caught more passes in their last seasons they were here [when they were active] than the entire Redskins WR corps this season. I haven't followed them lately but I know Gardener was cut by KC and McCants was playing pretty well in the CFL for a while.

I'm curious how Soups would perform if he actually had receivers with size to throw to verses the second coming of the smurfs that we have now, which he has a tendency to overthrow. Just a thought.

Posted by: RambleOn | November 14, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Anyone seen Darnerian (sp) McCants lately?

Posted by: tdskinz | November 14, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Probably tripped over a ball that Ladell dropeed.....

No loss; toss his rotten carcass onto the IR meat wagon and find somebody else; anybody else. What about that guy from the Eagles who they made that movie about? What about Rudy? What about Bob (scratch that). Nick Nolte from North Dallas Forty! That's the guy we want! Vinny, sign him! sign him now!

If that doesn't work, get Cris Carter!Hell, sign Nell Carter! Or is she dead?(maybe just her career) SIGN SOMEBODY!!!!

Posted by: Soups1 | November 14, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

It's funny, I always knew there'd be a point when we put Receiver, The on IR. Just didn't think it would be for a broken clavicle. I was thinking more along the lines of torn heartstring.

Posted by: kost52 | November 14, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Is it too late to trade for Priest Holmes??

Posted by: kost52 | November 14, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Sorry; I panicked there for a second...well that's it. I say we punt on first down this weekend and really take them out of their game plan. While they're standing there laughing their asses off, we pick up the punt and run it in for a score. It'll work once....then we have Ladell suit up as number 22 for Dallas and have him run just one play, just one play. We'll recover the fumble and run that in for a score. Then screw it, we don't kick off. I mean don't kick the f'n rock. Refuse to line up in anything other than our offense and hand it to CP. When we get to the 10, pooch it into the end zone and have Cooley catch it.

Posted by: Soups1 | November 14, 2007 6:59 PM | Report abuse

So has Brandon Lloyd played his last game in the NFL?

Posted by: kost52 | November 14, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

charles rogers?? haha....seriously though

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | November 14, 2007 05:40 PM

Yeah...good choice. Maybe four years ago. I heard he tried out for a couple of teams early last summer and ran 4.8 forties.

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Last game in the NFL? Well, he doesn't need money....

Posted by: TheCindy | November 14, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Riggo44...

Get with the program. We need better ball control than that. We should take a knee on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down and THEN punt. Gotta run down the to make the game shorter.

That way, we'll be within 35 points when the 4th quarter starts and can make our move.

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

This is good. I kow y'all saw how scared he was on that last play. He cradled up like a baby.....

That will be the last play of #85 in a Redskin uniform.....

Posted by: RightWay | November 14, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I know he's been a bust, and I've been as critical of 85 as most, but man this kid just can't get a break it seems.

Posted by: RambleOn | November 14, 2007 06:41 PM

May not have been the break he was looking for but he got one. Wamp wamp waaamp.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

WTF is up with all the reality shows these days? I mean effin' Todd Bridges has a new TV series coming out, or something like that. I blame survivor for this crap.

F reality TV
F the idiots who think its real

Posted by: RedDMV | November 14, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Wednesday News & Notes
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Staff Report
TheRanchReport.com Nov 14, 2007

Cowboys coach Wade Phillips likes having a loose and fun atmosphere.

It's the reason he allows the players to listen to music during stretching before practice. You can even hear Phillips joining in with the players reciting the words to rapper Soulja Boy's "Crank Dat."

...................


WEDNESDAY NOTES: QB Tony Romo has been great in just about every game, but he is at his best in the third and fourth quarters where he has a 141.0 and 101.0 quarterback rating, respectively. 16 of his 23 touchdowns have come in the third and fourth quarters, including 11 in the third.

--RB Marion Barber didn't post big numbers against the Giants, rushing 12 times for 34 yards, but he still is on pace for a monster season. At his current pace, he would rush 199 times for 1,011 yards and 11 touchdowns, all career highs.

--WR Terrell Owens racked up his third consecutive 100-yard game, his fourth of the season, with 125 yards on six catches against the Giants. It marked the second time in his career that he has had three consecutive 100-yard receiving games (2004 with the Eagles -- five consecutive). It was his 43rd career 100-yard outing, tying him for the fourth-most career 100-yard receiving games among active players. He has scored a touchdown in a four straight games.

--OTs Flozell Adams and Marc Colombo received praise from coach Wade Phillips for the job they did against the Giants. Phillips said the entire line played well but he said Adams and Colombo stood out because they had the toughest tasks of blocking ends Osi Umenyiora and Michael Strahan. Umenyiora was held sackless while Strahan recorded just one sack.

--CB Anthony Henry (ankle) is still not ready to return to the starting lineup, coach Wade Phillips said. Henry has played primarily in nickel situations the past two games. He missed the previous three with a high ankle sprain.

"We just have to wait and see and see how he came out of the game," Phillips said. "He was a little bit bothered going into the game, which worried me a little bit. We thought he was going to be like he was last week and I didn't get that feeling once we got out on the field. It didn't seem like he was quite as ready as I thought he might be, but he played fine in the game."

--WR Isaiah Stanback could return to action as the team's primary kickoff returner against the Redskins. Stanback was inactive last week because of a shoulder injury. He replaced regular returner Tyson Thompson against the Eagles. Thompson was still inactive against the Giants while Miles Austin and Nate Jones returned kickoffs.

--NT Tank Johnson was obviously rusty but he was no doubt productive in his season debut against the Giants. He recorded a sack, a penalty and three tackles.


Posted by: RightWay | November 14, 2007 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Davidson will upset NC tonight. Its that kind of season in college basketball. Hell college sports peroid.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 14, 2007 7:12 PM | Report abuse

WTF!! How many damn injuries are we going to have this year?

Posted by: jm220 | November 14, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

RightWay you point out the obvious reasons for why we will get our butts kicked.Thats why i have filled up on lots of jm220 kool-aide.

Posted by: bigfiish | November 14, 2007 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Its time for me to come out of the closet because i dont even believe my own kool-aide drinking spin machine.

Posted by: jm220luvscowboys | November 14, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Imposter - We all know that I would capitalize "i" and I sure know how to spell Kool-Aid. Besides this time of day I turn to alcohol.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I'll I want to know is -- Did B.Lloyd catch the ball on the play he was hurt. That would be the ultimate irony...

Watching the History channel, thank goodness crazy Hitler ran Germanny during WW2 or half the world would be saying, "der NFL ist sehr gut"

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 14, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Tony Romo just on local news...

"We're going to treat this as a trap game. We're going to pretend like they have a Pro Bowl caliber QB. Oh wait, they do"

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Redskins wide receiver Lloyd breaks collarbone, out at least six weeks
58 minutes ago

ASHBURN, Va. - Washington Redskins receiver Brandon Lloyd broke his collarbone Wednesday and will be sidelined at least six weeks, the latest setback in his disappointing tenure in the nation's capital.

Coach Joe Gibbs said Lloyd was hurt on the last play of practice when he caught a ball in the end zone. There was no other player involved.

"He landed on his shoulder and drove his shoulder into the ground," trainer Bubba Tyer said.

The force of the landing caused a complete break of the clavicle. Lloyd's right shoulder was put in a sling, but he will not require surgery.

Lloyd has caught only two passes for 14 yards this season, having fallen out of favour with the coaches because of his work ethic and lack of productivity. He missed a team meeting two weeks ago and, as punishment, wasn't allowed to travel with the team for the following game against the New York Jets.

The Redskins traded two draft picks to San Francisco for Lloyd last year and signed him to a long-term contract that included US$10 million in guaranteed money. He caught only 23 passes for 365 yards last season and lost his starting job to Antwaan Randle El in December.

However, this could have been the very week Lloyd had a chance to redeem himself. Santana Moss is struggling with a bruised right heel that caused him to miss last week's game against the Philadelphia Eagles, and James Thrash was on crutches Wednesday because of a severely sprained ankle.

Thrash is unlikely to play in Sunday's game against the NFC East rival Dallas Cowboys, and Moss' situation doesn't look much better. Moss didn't even bother trying to put his right shoe on completely as he left the locker room before Wednesday's walkthrough.

"We're working like crazy to get the swelling out of his heel so we can get him back on the field," Tyer said.

With seven games to go in the regular season, the Redskins will have to decide whether to place Lloyd on injured reserve and sign another receiver. Coincidentally, the team added receiver Burl Toler to the practice squad Wednesday, replacing offensive lineman Calvin Armstrong.

Posted by: cdubb | November 14, 2007 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Even with the Reaper out we are a better team than the Bills. You won't get me to believe it will be a blow out.

Posted by: jm220 | November 14, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

BLloyd is 26 years old. I thought he would get a chance to do something this year.

Oh, well. There's got to be some young talent out there. I'm still disappointed the Skins let Shaun Bodiford get away. I still think he could have been a deep threat, and the Packers seem to have found a way to use him:

http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/PKR01/711140565/1989
The Packers de-activated special teams guru Shaun Bodiford against the Vikings and put Martin on the 45-man, game-day roster. Given how valuable Bodiford is, especially on the kick coverage teams and as a backup return man, it would seem unlikely he'd be inactive every week. But Bodiford isn't as polished a receiver as Martin, and the coaching staff might not be willing to use the five-receiver look with him instead of Martin.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 14, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I think it may be easier for Jasno from now on if he just lists the players that are healthy and ready to go instead of who's dinged up and not practicing.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Interesting article:

Redskins players lobby Gibbs to go no-huddle: 'We went out and made it work'
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2007-11-14-3409518821_x.htm

\\quote from article\\
"It might be something where we do some no-huddle from time to time," Gibbs said. "This is the first time. It was pretty successful, I'd say."

Posted by: Alan4 | November 14, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

He did indeed catch the pass.

Posted by: TheCindy | November 14, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Man, this loss rivals the Colts loss of Dwight Freeney. How are we going to get by?

Posted by: cdubb | November 14, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Alan, That's just proof that the players have no faith in the playcalling or gameplan put in place by Gibbs and Saunders and think that they can do better. I'm all for the no huddle.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 7:53 PM | Report abuse

yeah but the bills stayed in that game (should won) b/c of what 5 ints and some solid d all the way around...

if we cant stop them...i dont think we can out gun them...we need 5 turnovers an 35pts off them...

Posted by: deadskin | November 14, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

We should give Coach Joe some credit here for listening to the players. I don't think double G would have done the same which is the reason I don't want him as head coach.

Posted by: jm220 | November 14, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Once again even without the Reaper (damn damn damn) I will take our D over the Bills D. Not saying they will produce 5 turnovers but don't think they will blow us out.

Posted by: jm220 | November 14, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

We should give Coach Joe some credit here for listening to the players. I don't think double G would have done the same which is the reason I don't want him as head coach.

Posted by: jm220 | November 14, 2007 07:57 PM

Agreed jm.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Since 1996 our redskins have won in dallas 1 time(2 hail marys)we have avg.12pts per game We have rushed for an avg 84 yds and commited 18 turnovers put that with JCs pathetic 56% comp. on the road and We never had a chance.Hell we couldnt beat them when they sucked and we had all the FAs and highest payroll.We still have highest payroll but they are 2nd best team and that Romo kid is on fire.

Posted by: jm220luvscowboys | November 14, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

We don't need any receivers...

We have Randle-El, Caldwell and McCardell....Look out Cowboys...Air Coryell is coming to Irving Baby...

Oh...I know, let's put Brunell in the game.

Posted by: rickyroge | November 14, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

This could be the one game where the inability to get pressure on the QB works to our advantage. It's been pointed out time and time again that Romo is not very good when throwing from behind his line. He is most accurate when he is outside of the pocket. Drop TheRon back in coverage and tell him to constantly lay the wood on TO. Let the LB's stay on Witten and the RB's. That leaves Smoot on Crayton so he needs to step up and earn that check this week. I'm not ready to mail this one in already.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 01:50 PM

To add to this, Bills kept Romo in the pocket and look what they did. I was right here that night BMGO as were others who agreed.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

i dont like our d that much...sometimes they make good plays and stands but way to many penalties, automatic first downs (esp on third down, too much inconsistency on 3rd down, too many second half lapses, too many negative big plays, just too many examples that have killed us and why we've lost the 3 games we shoulda won...also theyve gotten away a lot with other receivers dropping easy catches on 3rd downs and qbs missing open receivers...

and romo, TO, whitten and barber (dude is tough) are simply on...

im not saying they dont have a chance or im not hopelessly optimistic...im just sayin!!! (i gotta keep those expecations in check...i cant take the pain!!!)

Posted by: deadskin | November 14, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

jm220luvscowboys your post name is funny and your post is accurate and i once again agree with you.

Posted by: bigfiish | November 14, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

cdubb - Nah, I think Freeney is more important, Lloyd only has 2 more receptions than Freeney, but the hidden stat is that Freeney has scored 2 more points than Lloyd (Safety). So Freeney is more important, but not by much.

Posted by: kost52 | November 14, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

jm, bigfish, I agree also about Coach Joe's flexibility. In fact, when he hired Al Saunders he was showing the ultimate flexibility--he was going to actually defer to someone else on offense. That's a big concession that not many offensive-minded head coaches would make.

For whatever reason, that hasn't panned out (maybe Gibbs isn't *really* deferring the offense). I think Gibbs reaches critical points where he becomes really open-minded, but if the timing is wrong he tacks back to his conservative tendencies. Certain players have his respect, and those are the ones with the abililty to lobby him to take more risks.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 14, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

B. Lloyd out!

Who cares! His teammates wouldn't even wake him up for a meeting!

Skins never throw to wide-outs - it's 9 on 11 every Sunday.

Next topic please.

Posted by: gdennie | November 14, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Redcoat | November 14, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

gdennie - This past Sunday, 11 of Soup's first 12 passes were thrown to WR's.

Posted by: kost52 | November 14, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

so we finally close the books on Lloyd, huh?

shall we go to the video tape...

that's 2 mid round picks, 0 TD's, and a 7 mill cap charge to be spread out over the next 2 years.

all when we didn't have to give him an extension in the first place.

you guys always say I'm living in the past when I bring up this move, but it's gonna affect the future big time.

just remember his cap charge(s) when we're cutting guys like Griffin and Springs and maybe Portis in the offseason...

Posted by: RickyBobby | November 14, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

The Spurs made 13 3-pointers in their 107-92 victory, and Jackson was asked if too much penetration was leading to open outside shooters.

"We call this a 'Brokeback Mountain' game, because there's so much penetration and kickouts," Jackson said. "It was one of those games."


LMGO! I know it's wrong.

Posted by: jm220 | November 14, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Guys, you can say it's nice that Gibbs is finally listening to his players, but the flip side of the coin is that it took the guy 2 years to go to the shotgun, 4 years to go no huddle, and he's still playing not to lose with the lead...

to quote Aubrey Huff, that is some horsesiht

Posted by: RickyBobby | November 14, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, before I clicked on the link, I thought you were excited at the reinstatement of Ricky Williams, then saw it was John Beck you were excited about. Then I thought, hang on, wasn't John Beck the name of a character The Rock played? So I checked good ol' IMDB, and I was pretty close, he played a guy named Beck in The Rundown (Or Welcome To The Jungle for all you Aussies out there). Then while on The Rock's page, I see he's in talks for a new movie, "Shazzam".

He's a bit big to play a Canadian Kicker isn't he?

Posted by: kost52 | November 14, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

He's a bit big to play a Canadian Kicker isn't he?

Posted by: kost52 | November 14, 2007 08:31 PM

LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | November 14, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

How about lobbying Gibbs to run more out of a 3 WR set? Or how about holding on to some timeouts? Or how about NOT sending in jumbo on the 7 yard line and running it up the gut on 1st and 2nd down?

Posted by: RickyBobby | November 14, 2007 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Here is how I see things shaking out, just to show you I'm not all doom and gloom.

We get blown out in Big D this weekend. I mean, NE style blown out. 5-5

We rebound at Tampa to get to 6-5.

Now, this is where we prove whether we're a playoff team or not. A playoff worthy team beats Buffalo and Chicago at home in back to back weeks.

I think we need to get to 8-5 to have a shot, and while it's a long shot, I'm going to say it happens.

We'll lose in NY to drop to 8-6, then face Minny and Dallas to close it out.

1 win in the last 2 might get us in, depending on what happens with Detroit. But I think we'll need them both. Hopefully we can beat Minnesota, who plays well at home, then hopefully Dallas is resting its players because they've already clinched home field.

We win those 2 and get the 6th seed.

1st round exit.

Posted by: RickyBobby | November 14, 2007 8:39 PM | Report abuse

kost52,

Agreed.

Over the season, w/o's have not thrown to very much. Hence, I stand by my statement.

Maybe things will change. We shall see.

Posted by: gdennie | November 14, 2007 8:39 PM | Report abuse

gdennie, yeah, fair enough. I ran through some stats a little while ago, (I can be a bit of a nerd) and before last week, about 55% of our passes were thrown to WR's, that's attempts not completions. Which I would assume is a bit low compared to other teams. You'd think that teams with younger and/or bad quarterbacks would have a higher % to the RB's and TE's, but that's a bit of a Captain Obvious. I'd like to see how other teams' passes are distributed (But I'm not that much of a nerd!).

Posted by: kost52 | November 14, 2007 8:58 PM | Report abuse

4-12, saw the link you posted yesterday, knew you'd find it. What a bonehead that guy is! He's probably lucky the tattooist didn't get the arms messed up "Oh, I did it on MY left!"

I promise, not all Geelong supporters are that daft!

Posted by: kost52 | November 14, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Leonard Davis sprained his ankle in practice today. They don't yet know if he'll miss the game on Sunday.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=40BD046E-044C-C5CD-96A38C5ABAEFD2EC

Posted by: JustMe | November 14, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Gentlemen,

Forget the Dallas game. If you are fair and objective, it's a really tough sled.

The big game is Tampa.

It will be a must win for sure.

Tampa is coming off two bye weeks (one legit. last week and then Atl. Sun.). Garcia carved us up last year. He's at a 95 rating YTD.

Make no mistake, Tampa is the watershed game of the year.

Posted by: gdennie | November 14, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of nerds...anyone know the average yards gained running in the jumbo vs 2 wr set vs 3 wr set? Some of the short yardage situations might skew the numbers but was thinking about when they have the ball in normal plays. Thanks for helping...

Posted by: rbd202 | November 14, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Skins are bringing back Jimmy Farris....remember him from 2006 preseason?

Posted by: Lisa | November 14, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

A truly sad day for all 'Skins fans.

Looks like I'm definitely out of the Receiver, The pool. I had "Lead the League in all receiving categories."

Does someone have any positive things to say about this weekend's game? I fear the onslaught of Cowboys fans on Monday...

Posted by: PDiddy | November 14, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Can someone please explain to me what happened to Reche Caldwell? He was signed to provide depth... what is the deal? According to his stat site on espn.com it says he has played in two games and has caught 0 balls.

Is he too advanced (coming from the Patriots) to learn our 1985 offense?

Posted by: makuke5 | November 14, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, here you go. This is my theory.

With Floyd's injury, the likelihood of a Skins win has actually passed through a portal, into the anti-matter of impossibility, meaning that it has now become too impossible to not happen.

The ramifications of a Boys loss in this scenario on my life would be so devastating, that it can't not happen. But the good part is, if the Skins win, I'll actually be able to throw it in all your faces. That is indeed a sad state of affairs.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 14, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

And like Vincent, SMACK1 fears success.

Posted by: Xlnt | November 14, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

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