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Posted at 1:33 PM ET, 12/15/2010

Long snapper Nick Sundberg ready to 'just move on' from botched PAT

By Jason Reid

In the Redskins' first 13 games, long snapper Nick Sundberg worked with punters Josh Bidwell and Hunter Smith.

On Sunday, he'll be reunited with punter Sam Paulescu, who was signed Tuesday after Smith was released. Smith failed to catch Sundberg's high snap on a botched point-after attempt in the closing seconds of the 17-16 loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, so Washington's special teams are in flux.

Sundberg, however, believes he will quickly develop chemistry with Paulescu, with whom he has been paired during two previous auditions with the Redskins.

"Today will be the third time I've worked out with Sam," Sundberg said Wednesday before practice at Redskins Park. "He's been here for two workouts, so I've snapped for him twice before.

"It shouldn't be too big an issue at this point in our careers. You kinda get into a routine and it gets so much easier, starting to work with guys, so it shouldn't be too big an issue."

Sundberg acknowledged that his snap could have been better, and Smith probably would still be with the Redskins if the play had not been botched, "but I try not to think about stuff like that. Had the snap been a little lower, yeah, he might have caught it.

"Had it been a little higher, I might be the one gone. But you kinda gotta try to not think about those things and just move on."

By Jason Reid  | December 15, 2010; 1:33 PM ET
 
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Informed sources are telling us it took the Redskins "special" teams coach a few moments longer than the rest to realize the Punt, Pass and Kick auditions at FEDEX Field this past weekend were to find a regional/team rep for the annual NFL post-season youth competition...

Not that there's anything worng with that, of course.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 15, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Which roster will get the most hype next Spring:

a. Miami Heat

Wade, James, Bosh

b. Philadelphia Phillies

Owsalt, Lee, Halladay, Hamels

c. Redskins

Shanahan, Snyder, Allen

Moe rolls with C as Vinny Cerrato's absence will not stop the redskins from winning the Offseason Hype championship that commences sometime around Duke or some other ACC school winning that March Madness foolishness.


Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Another 3-and-out from the last post/thread...

Can't find a rhythm like this, RI...

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Sundberg has been flat out wild from preseason on. Not sure why Shanahan has been so committed to him. He's like Rick ankiel (the pitcher) back there.

Posted by: AdamCr | December 15, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Moe

Gotta agree -- as predictable as the tides, and as consistent as the phases of the moon, the Redskins off-season hype machine is the one thing we can always count on from Diminutive Dan and his evil minions.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 15, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it because by all accounts he is a class act, but Danny Smith will be gone soon.

IMHO he should go for a HC job in a minor league or small time college. He has good fire, just not great at coaching up kickers.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 15, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Sundberg acknowledged that his snap could have been better, and Smith probably would still be with the Redskins if the play had not been botched, "but I try not to think about stuff like that. Had the snap been a little lower, yeah, he might have caught it.

By Jason Reid | December 15, 2010; 1:33 PM ET

Sundberg also went on to say that Smith dinged his car out in the parking lot, so that's why he "snapped it high on purpose and said 'Go it it Loser'!!!" His only regret was Smith not being the one to pick up the bad snap and get pile-drived in the ground. "I was hoping he would have sh*t himself, like Stone Cold in the Longest Yard! Oh well, at least he's gone!!!"

Posted by: monk811 | December 15, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Cam Newton.

(Haven't seen his name in the last few posts)

That is all.

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

"Today will be the third time I've worked out with Sam," Sundberg said Wednesday before practice at Redskins Park. "He's been here for two workouts, so I've snapped for him twice before.

"It shouldn't be too big an issue at this point in our careers. You kinda get into a routine and it gets so much easier, starting to work with guys, so it shouldn't be too big an issue."

Said with the breezy confidence of a salty NFL vet coming off another flawless performance Sunday.

Maybe they (Sundberg and Gano) will be integral parts of a future Super Bowl winning Redskin team and this week will seem, if we even remember it, like growing pains. Maybe. Redskin fans used to HATE Joe Theismann and cringe when he came into games.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 15, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

think McNabb has been inconsistent this year.

Grossman would be a far more consistent QB.

Consistently throwing INTs.
Consistently fumbling.
Consistently inaccurate.

Not, I believe, the kind of consistency that one would like.

And to 4th, in reply to your "Cam Newton" post....

Blucher!

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 15, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Sundberg acknowledged that his snap could have been better, and Smith probably would still be with the Redskins if the play had not been botched, "but I try not to think about stuff like that. Had the snap been a little lower, yeah, he might have caught it.

"Had it been a little higher, I might be the one gone. But you kinda gotta try to not think about those things and just move on."
------------------------------------------
Had I hit the mascot, we could have intimidated the defensive linemen by telling them I was one crazy long snapper...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 15, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting that Rex Grossman could start for the Washington Redskins this Sunday in Dallas since Donovan McNabb is hurt and might not be able to play.

Last I checked McNabb was perfectly fine, and you know who I heard that from? Donovan McNabb.

On his own radio show, McNabb said he was 100 percent. Of course that could be just talk; he could be 90 or 80 or even 70 percent. Either way, on his show when asked if he was hurt he usually would say, "Yeah this...hurts."

Also, Kelly Johnson of CSN Washington quoted a source regarding Mort's report. The source said, "It's just not true."

This leaves me with the question of just how many times Mort has been wrong about McNabb and Shanahan?

I mean the Detroit fiasco was how many weeks ago?

Whatever there was between the coach and the quarterback has seem to run its course, and the two appear to be on the same page now.

Honestly, at this point I think that Mort's source is just messing with him. Who in their right mind would even think that Rex Grossman would start in Dallas?

Come on Mort, you're better than that, aren't you?

Posted by: monk811 | December 15, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Cam friggin' Newton? C'mon, 4th. Is that kid so great he can succeed in the NFL without an offensive line?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 15, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

draft o/d line

that is all

Posted by: retroskins14 | December 15, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

"but I try not to think about stuff like that."

I heard that.

I block out thoughts of calling pistol-toting white cops racial epithets, too.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

How many missed-or-otherwise-botched FGs do you think the Skins will have during their last three games? I put the over/under at 2.5.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 15, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Don’t know why, but it seems the only thing more quirky than a punter/place kicker is a long snapper.


Posted by: Vic1 | December 15, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

How many missed-or-otherwise-botched FGs do you think the Skins will have during their last three games? I put the over/under at 2.5.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 15, 2010 2:32 PM

Sounds about right per game...total for the last 3 games is too low.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 15, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Gotta agree with AA here. The O lost the game in the 1st half by not being able to score.

Was Smith truly to blame for the loss? Not according to Armstrong. Neither was kicker Graham Gano.

“I want to put it basically on myself and the offense,” he said. “If we would have put the game away earlier in the first half we wouldn’t have come down to a last second hold and extra point.”


http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2010/redskins-armstrong-sorry-to-see-smith-gone-takes-blame-for-loss/

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 15, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

And the great John Elway couldn't manage a Super Bowl victory without Shanny.

Now if that's a fact.....tell me.....am I lying?

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 14, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

John Elway went to three Super Bowls WITHOUT Mike Shanahan, but didn't win. How many Super Bowl or even Championship games has Mike Shanahan been to as a Head Coach without John Elway?

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller.....

Posted by: Redcoat | December 15, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I'm scrabbling to catch up after a LOOOONG time away...

Posted by: Redcoat | December 15, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

That was not the most disasterous snap I can remember.

It was a late game at RFK against the Jets, Petitbon's first and only year. (Dec 11 1993, to be exact).

With the Jets leading 3-0, WAS lined up for a tying field goal. The holder looked at the snapper, then back to the kicker.

Whereupon the ball hit him in the earhole.

Field goal missed, dreadful, awful game lost 3-0. Oh the humanity!!

Who was the holder?

Sunday was NOTHING compared to that.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 15, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Is that kid so great he can succeed in the NFL without an offensive line?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 15, 2010 2:30 PM

Last time I checked....The draft consisted of 7 rounds.

That...and this Free Agency period will be like no other Free Agency period ever. 200+ players had to sign one year RFA tendors who would have otherwise had been URFA last year.

Combine those 2 facts with what I state every other Cam Newton post - Keep McNabb around minimum 1 year, 2 max. Keep Cam on the bench 1 year minimum, 2 years max.

So, you don't think we can have an offensive line in 2 years?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YKxf3OkpJc&feature=related

Earl Weaver at his best. This is truly a must listen to...trust me, I know what's funny.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Words of Kindness to All Posters, Hangers On, and Non-posting RI Groupies:


Happy whatever it is that you celebrate that I can't say as it would insult someone who doesn't celebrate it.


There.

Nothing like openness and sincerity in these troubled times.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Cam Newton?

Why not sign Vince Young, he's the same guy only cheaper.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 15, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

And to 4th, in reply to your "Cam Newton" post....

Blucher!

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 15, 2010 2:19 PM

I'm lost????

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Hold on here, people. The important thing about Shanny and Elway is not what they accomplished or did not accomplish separately but what they achieved together.

And what they achieved together was removing from the Redskins the ignominious distinction of being the "last NFC team to lose a Super Bowl." We should never forget this.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 15, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

rc, welcome back, how ya been...

kerz, its been on the offense all year long....what are we up to 5 games out of 13 that the offense has only scored a single touchdown not including fgs....Pa-thet-ic.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Sunday was NOTHING compared to that.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 15, 2010 2:49 PM

The game winning botch in the playoffs against Tampa in 1999 or 1999 hurt MUCH worse than this one.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 15, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Hi Nate, Greg, Personal_Fowl (Talent?) et al.

I have been well. Got busy, turned 50, got busier, sucked at Fantasy Fubball this year (unlike Nate), just tsuff I guess.

How are you all? Not too many cliff-jumpers I hope?

Posted by: Redcoat | December 15, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

And the great John Elway couldn't manage a Super Bowl victory without Shanny.

Now if that's a fact.....tell me.....am I lying?

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 14, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

John Elway went to three Super Bowls WITHOUT Mike Shanahan, but didn't win. How many Super Bowl or even Championship games has Mike Shanahan been to as a Head Coach without John Elway?

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller.....

Posted by: Redcoat | December 15, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I'm scrabbling to catch up after a LOOOONG time away...

Posted by: Redcoat | December 15, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

We have 2 options then:

1. We hope that Elway had a son that is coming into the NFL soon and then draft him, and hope the apple didn't fall too far from the tree.

OR

2. We clone him.


Either way, Elway and Shanahan will bring us another CHAMPIONSHIP!!! Enough of these dive ass losing seasons!

Posted by: monk811 | December 15, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Cam Newton?

Why not sign Vince Young, he's the same guy only cheaper.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 15, 2010 2:55 PM

FALSE. And this is what the detractors will try to sell to the public before, during, and after the draft.

Cam Newton is right Handed.

Vince Young is Left Handed.

Cam Newton has a throwing motion the NFL wants.

VY throws side armed mostly.

Cam Newton can win amongst adversity (Everyone and their momma accussing him of taking $$$ and should be ineligible while actually playing the games. Even coming back after being down by over 20 points against Alabma, a top team)

VY - Crys and hides from the public when facing advesity.

Cam Newton has not had accuracy questions.

VY has.

What other myth do you want me to dispell?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

happy belated rc, glad to hear your busy, its still your business correct??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

What other myth do you want me to dispell?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2010 3:03 PM

The Sasquatch? That one has me baffled...the pictures and videos look so real!

Posted by: PlayAction | December 15, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I like the way you think monk811. From wikipedia...

"Jack Elway played quarterback at Cherry Creek High School in Colorado, receiving All-State honors his senior year, graduating in 2008. Jack signed to play quarterback for Arizona State University but left the team in April 2009."

Shanahan: Allen?
Allen: Sir, yes sir!
Shanahan: Get me Rex Kramer, sorry Jack Elway!
Allen: Sir, yes sir!
Shanahan: I guess I picked the wrong week to give up sucking lemons.

Posted by: Redcoat | December 15, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't help but think about that snap, and Dan Turk, Monday night when watching Matt Turk punt for the Texans Monday night.

Frustrating, to be sure. Also a good lesson on the relative importance of such diversions as the Redskins. Dan Turk, the goat of the game and the man many of us "cursed" that day, was dead of testicular cancer within a year at the age of 38. Makes me careful about what I say ,and think, when things like Sunday's botched PAT happen.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 15, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

1. We hope that Elway had a son that is coming into the NFL soon and then draft him, and hope the apple didn't fall too far from the tree.

Posted by: monk811 | December 15, 2010 3:00 PM

Any apple that falls near Elway will immediately have his horse teeth bitemarks in it.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 15, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Got busy, turned 50, got busier, sucked at Fantasy Fubball this year (unlike Nate), just tsuff I guess.

How are you all? Not too many cliff-jumpers I hope?

Posted by: Redcoat | December 15, 2010 3:00 PM

I would say not enough cliff jumpers, if you get my drift.

Damn. Just the other day I listed your name among the good posters that we'd lost. It was a typo, of course. I was trying to type Redboat. Now that you're back I'll have to type more carefully because weren't you the Pommy Bastard who used to spell words incorrectly -- labour, honour -- and then look down your nose at those of us who labored to spell them correctly?

--The poster formerly known as talent_evaluator, but now known as beep-beep, the last word on every thread.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 15, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Holy moley, Redcoat in the house! What a treat!

4th Floor, dude, I don't want to watch one more season of Redskin football without a damn offensive line. You can't do anything consistently well on offense without a line taking care of business. You just can't. And that means everything.

You want to see the Skins invest a very high draft pick and a bazillion dollars in a quarterback. Okey dokey. I want to see the Skins invest that very high draft pick in another stud O lineman to play work with Trent Williams for the next 8-10 years.

I'm more than a little skeptical about the free agency smorgasbord you note, but I do hope the team makes wise decisions.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 15, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Cam Newton will probably be gone when we draft.

I say another offensive lineman in round 1(center) and Christian Ponder or Ryan Mallette in round 2, or the other way around.

Now I'll just sit back and wait for people to say mean things.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 15, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

4th- Cam Newton? So he can "learn" exactly what from McNabb...how to not get killed when sacked?

Repeat after me: Right tackle, right guard, center, left guard. Defensive tackle, defensive end, another defensive end.

Posted by: 4-12 | December 15, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Who was the holder?

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 15, 2010 2:49 PM

Did Ryp hold for kicks when he was there? I seem to remember he did. Lohmiller was 16 for 28 that season with two missed extra points...holy smokes.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 15, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I feel ya Nate....

but picking in the top 10 next year, you're going to have to come to a realization that Shanny will not spend that pick on a Guard/Center/RT.

Then I would say NT is more important after that. If we don't get a NT in the 1st, we have to get him with the 2nd rounder. Then we don't pick until the 5th/6th round.....(Until we trade Cooley/Haynesworth/Carter).

So, we are realistically 2 offseasons away from getting all the pieces we need.

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

And then after those 7 linemen are drafted...Inside linebacker, outside linebacker, cornerback, free safety, wide reciever, another wide receiver, running back, and then, with your 15th pick...then you get your young QB.

Pen it in!

Posted by: 4-12 | December 15, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow - some true originals, i.e. old-schoolers, are blogging today. Good to see, good to see

Posted by: CBT2 | December 15, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

iHdallas

I say another offensive lineman in round 1(center) and Christian Ponder or Ryan Mallett in round 2, or the other way around.


I think Mallett might be the better choice for us as he is an excellent deep ball thrower.

Mallet plays a lot like Matt Schaub in that regard.

He may be able to play and pay dividends immediately as he, unlike Newton, comes out of an NFL-lite offensive system, and he, unlike Newton, has been a three year starter.

And it's the quality of offense and amount of time having been a starter that seems to separate college quarterbacks anymore--it's the big reason why recently, you have more successes out of them than complete bombs of the Shuler and Leaf variety.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Didn't the 'Skins get a pick from Indy for Tryon? Don't remember the round.

Redcoat! Sorry about the Consolation Round beatdown...

Posted by: 4-12 | December 15, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for Mallett.

But offensive line has to come first.

I wouldn't be mad if we picked a NT with our first rounder.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 15, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

speaking of sasquatch videos, here's the best evidence for bigfoot caught on tape i've ever seen. definitely NOT trick photography here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpXDxBT3evo&feature=channel

after you see that video, click this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PIdWdw15U

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 15, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for Mallett....But offensive line has to come first.

I understand.

But presently, most scouts have yet to rank any offensive lineman worthy of a top 10 pick.

And not too many folks drop top 10 picks on centers and guards as they are more of the round 2-6 variety.

Auburn's Nick Fairley is one defensive lineman worth a top 10 pick.

If the redskins took him--or some other defensive lineman--and a quarterback in round 2, the team still comes out ahead.

The remaining picks then go to whatever needs that haven't been addressed in FA: FS, OLB, WR, WR, DE.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Sundberg ready to 'move on' and continue to poorly do the easiest job in all of sports.

Here's an idea, bidwell, smith, and palescu battling for a job last OFFSEASON!

This new 'culture' is AMAZINGLY different.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 15, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Damn. Just the other day I listed your name among the good posters that we'd lost. It was a typo, of course. I was trying to type Redboat.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 15, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

You've got me wrong b-b, I was actually RedGoat, aka "Graham Canoe" the Redshins kicker whose big foot drags the ball outside the posts every time.

Dan, no worries, I've had that coming from you all year. And as it's the consolation who cares anyway!!

I'll try to drop back in tomorrow. Now I have to go meet 'the man'. Ciao bella!

Posted by: Redcoat | December 15, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm old school and contend that the Skins draft the best player at his position during their 1st pick. If the best OL or NT are gone, pick the best RB, QB or FS. Get us another quality player like Trent Williams from the class of 2010.

Posted by: TKing1 | December 15, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

My personnel strategy:

1) Use the rest of the season to audition young players under game conditions to see what we've got. Special emphasis on OL. Try Macho Harris at FS.

2) Look at FAs that don't cost a draft pick. Ideal is good, young, and cheap, but we'll probably have to settle for 2 out of 3.

3) Draft Rounds 1 and 2: Gotta find starters. Look for BPA among OL, NT, QB, 3-4 LB. If there's nothing available at our pick, look to trade back to where the pick is worthwhile. Same strategy for Round 2.

Rounds 5, 6, and 7: BPA - we need lots of help and depth. This is where we might find an overlooked WR, RB, DB, LB, or OL. Also a "project" player with good upside potential. Also to fill holes left by any of our departing FAs.

4) Pray for luck...

Posted by: pyrotech | December 15, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

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