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Malcolm Kelly gives his thoughts on Sam Bradford

With already so much buzz about the Redskins possibly using the No. 4 overall pick to draft quarterback Sam Bradford, I figured it would be a good time to get a scouting report from Malcolm Kelly about his former Oklahoma Sooners teammate.

Kelly, who started 10 games at flanker for the Redskins last season, was among Bradford's top targets during the 2007 season. In his first season as a starter, Bradford, then an unheralded redshirt freshman, played a surprising role in leading the Sooners to an 11-3 record, the Big 12 title and top 10 national rankings.

"When he came in, nobody expected him to do what he did in his freshman year," Kelly said in a lengthy telephone interview today. "All we wanted, all we were looking for, was a guy who would just come in and not get us beat. We didn't want him to come in and try to make any spectacular plays or anything like that. But he came in and took it and ran with it."

In his first season, Bradford passed for 3,121 yards with 36 touchdowns and only eight interceptions. He completed 69.5 percent of his passes and had a 176.52 quarterback rating. Kelly had 49 receptions for 821 yards (a 16.8-yard average) and nine touchdowns in his last season at Oklahoma.

Bradford has good arm strength and plays with confidence, Kelly said, "but the biggest thing is that Sam makes good decisions, man. First and foremost, he's real accurate. His accuracy is well above average and he makes smart decisions. He's not going to force too many things.

"If something isn't there, it isn't there. He's not going to put the team in a situation where you don't have a chance to be successful. He always gave us a chance to win the game. He didn't go out there and make dumb decisions."

Although the Sooners often had comfortable leads, Bradford also impressed when things did not go as planned, Kelly said. "He doesn't really get rattled about a lot of stuff," he said. "We handled most of the games pretty well as far as the score, but some games we were down, we were losing, losing in the fourth quarter, and he just always had a good attitude about himself. He would always try to pick the team up. He's not so serious all the time.

"When you can get out in the huddle and joke around with guys and smile, and not have just a serious look on your face all the time, it lets everybody else around you know well, 'Okay, this dude isn't stressing out about this situation.' If we were in a game and we were down, he would just act like it was nothing. That's one thing that I do like about Sam. That's one thing that I really feel like he'll be able to do as far as leading an NFL team. He will be a young guy but I think his attitude will help him."

As a junior sophomore, Bradford won the Heisman Trophy. Although Kelly was a rookie with the Redskins, he still closely followed the Sooners that season and was not surprised by Bradford's continued success.

Bradford's junior season was cut short because of a severe shoulder injury. He was knocked out of the Sooners' season opener against Brigham Young and missed several weeks because of an AC joint injury. He later reinjured his shoulder in a loss to the rival Texas Longhorns and underwent season-ending surgery.

His recovery supposedly is going well and the spotlight will be on Bradford during the upcoming combine in Indianapolis, which begins March 24. At Oklahoma, Bradford was surrounded by NFL-caliber players -- including many former and future high draft picks -- and the team's offensive line usually is among the best in the nation.

Bradford wasn't hit much while throwing on the move in Oklahoma's spread offense, and things are a tad different for NFL quarterbacks who most of the time line up directly behind center and must contend with even better athletes on defense than those Bradford usually faced in college. But even if Bradford needs time to adjust to the NFL, he has the ability and intelligence to succeed in the league, Kelly believes.

"I think he will be able to adjust" to the higher NFL skill level, he said. "The better the players are that are around Sam, the better he will be able to do. You get a group of guys around him who are professionals, that will help him out a whole lot. Hopefully, whoever ends up drafting him, if they just give him time to get adjusted, it'll be the same thing for him."

By Jason Reid  |  February 11, 2010; 1:35 PM ET
 
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First to say I wish Bradford well but hope he doesnt end up here.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | February 11, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

cool.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 11, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I am sure he is good but we need O-LINE!!!!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 11, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Besides, we have Colt who should be able to hold us until next year and may be he will play well. I say give Colt Brennan his shot!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 11, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Giants cut Antonio Pierce. Redskins should never have let him go. Sign him now!!!! He will be a beast two games a year when he makes Midgets of the Giants.

Posted by: Agree2Disagree | February 11, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse


First, the Skins didn't let him go. He was offered a contract at around the same numbers offered by the Gmen, but he chose to walk after feeling "disrespected" somehow.

Second, I have no interest in Antonio-Pierce-leftovers. An older middle linebacker with bulging discs is about as useful to this team as an overweight busted Olineman sleeping on Derrick Dockery's couch...

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Can someone show me a spread-shotgun college QB that has become a franchise QB in the NFL?

I wouldn't have picked Bradford at #4 even before the shoulder injury.

With the injury, I hope it'd be a foregone conclusion.

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

The better the players are that are around Sam, the better he will be able to do. You get a group of guys around him who are professionals, that will help him out a whole lot. Hopefully, whoever ends up drafting him, if they just give him time to get adjusted, it'll be the same thing for him."

So in other words Kelly is saying with this O line Brad wouldn't do that well.

Posted by: jm220 | February 11, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

This is all I saw in that post:

severe shoulder injury . . .missed several weeks because of an AC joint injury . . . season-ending surgery.

surrounded by NFL-caliber players -- including many former and future high draft picks -- and the team's offensive line usually is among the best in the nation.

Bradford wasn't hit much while throwing on the move in Oklahoma's spread offense, and things are a tad different for NFL quarterbacks . . .

And the most important point was not mentioned, that Bradford IS NOT A LEFT TACKLE

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | February 11, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

This is really nice of Kelly, and it's right in line with what I would expect him to say, but I have zero interest in drafting a QB with our top pick.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 11, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

nate, agreed, no thanks on qb at #1....

haha on pierce getting the axe...suck it hard jackazz..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 11, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

2010 Restricted free agent tags
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal

Four years of experence

Original pick compensation: $1.176 million
Second round tender: $1.759 million
First round tender: $2.521 million
First and third tender: $3.168 million

Five years of NFL experience

Original pick compensation: $1.226 million
Second round tender: $1.809 million
First round tender: $2.621 million
First and third round tender: $3.268 million


***********************************************

All the amateur GM's up here need to copy down these numbers from PFT. These are the tenders that teams need to make to RFAs in order to gain draft picks in compensation.

It seems clear what the Redskins will do with Jason Campbell and Carlos Rogers: Tender them at "original pick level". Both were first round picks so with this low-ball offer they will either be able to retain them for a year, get a first round pick or -- most likely -- negotiate lower draft picks -- third or fourth rounds.

Posted by: Agree2Disagree | February 11, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Bradford's a good golfer too so maybe he can play 18 with Joe T.

But he isn't going to throw anything here unless we have OL!

Posted by: ElYeah | February 11, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

What this team does in Free Agency will show what they're going to do in the draft.

If they go after a bunch of linemen than a QB will most likely be drafted #1.

If they go after skill players, then they will probably look for O-line in the draft.

Either way, it will be fun to watch.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 11, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

a2d, I've seen some posts up here from PFT that discredit them...they're hardly reliable...some of the stuff that gets copied and pasted up here from their site is just crazy....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 11, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

If we are seriously considering Bradford, why not just go ahead and sign Graham Harrell off the street?

He's got similar gaudy college numbers.

He doesn't have a busted shoulder.

And he won't cost us a #4 overall pick.

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

there's no point in using a high draft pick on a qb without a reasonable offensive line to protect him. that being said im sure that sanchez's playoff success will guarantee that snyder picks a qb.

has anybody asked bradford how he feels about possibly playing for a team called the redskins?

Posted by: PindarPushkin | February 11, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

Nice.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 11, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

al, not sure what you're talking about??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 11, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

An actual post with unique and relevant information. Something must be messed up with the space-time continuum.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 11, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

AKA42

Drafting a QB with the #4th pick this year would be a cap killer in the future! There is no question the Skins need to trade down & gain more picks. I like the idea of the C.Michigans QB Laflavor(how ever you spell it)because of his gutsy play & quick decesion making. I think he goes in the 3rd round & we need to get back into that round by trading down. My hope is the 49rs,Bills,Seahawks,Broncos or even the Jags fall in love with a player and they will do what ever it takes to move up!

The more I read about Shanahan's Zone Blocking scheme,the more I think he will be getting his kind of players in the later rounds/free agency. I say this because he likes shorter,lighter and quicker O-Lineman and the top O-Lineman are usually 6'6 330 pound beasts! I love Okung's skill set,but this kid from Rutgers seems like Shanahan's type of LT(Quick & athletic),even though he in 330 ibs. plus! I think if we can trade down, we can get some very good talent for all our need positions(OL,CB,FS,LB and RB). O-Line is top priority,but I think fans underestimate how bad we need a real CB & FS. There will be no CBA and free agency will be weak.

What does anybody think of the idea of trading DE Carter and 2011 2nd & 4th/5th round picks maybe for Peppers? Just a thought because everybody in the NFC East is talking about getting Peppers except for us! We could use him as a OLB in 3-4 sets and DE in 4-3. Just a thought becasue we could give him a front loaded contract since will be uncapper year.He killed us when we played the Panthers this year & he as at least 5 great years left in the tank! Hail to the Redskins!

Posted by: adamaniba | February 11, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, i was referencing your PFT post.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 11, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

has anybody asked bradford how he feels about possibly playing for a team called the redskins?

Posted by: PindarPushkin


Yes, and he dodged the question. Too bad he didn't use those dodging skills better against BYU.

My most fervent hope is someone with mucho draft PIX makes the Redskins an offer they can't refuse to move up and snag Bradford.

I can't see Shanahan using a #4 overall on an OLineman, but if he can get midlevel one and another second rounder and change he can grab two OLmen and a QB.

The pickings are slim in o-linemen FA, unless labor strife changes things.

Posted by: TheCork | February 11, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

As a junior, Bradford won the Heisman Trophy... he won the award as a sophomore...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | February 11, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

What does anybody think of the idea of trading DE Carter and 2011 2nd & 4th/5th round picks maybe for Peppers?

Posted by: adamaniba | February 11, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse


I think it would be dumb because Peppers is an unrestricted free agent.

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Isn't there a weird trend with Heisman winners and limited success in the NFL? Its been a while since I heard about that, is that still a trend? Also what's with the Snow, why is it all like,"Shmeh I am gonna block up your side walk."

Posted by: alex35332 | February 11, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Been awhile since I posted, been on vacation for about a month in Europe...hope all is well with everyone on here.

First, stop talking about Colt, I hope SHanny cuts him.

We need O-Line more, but we will not know what we do until FA begins and they figure out the CBA crap.

For anyone that cares, my nephew signed with University of Cincinnati.

Good to be back and I wish CP would shut his mouth more.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 11, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to your nephew, and congrats to you as his de facto agent, mhartz!

Would love to hear about the decision-making process which led that that school, particularly through the bowl season, the coach leaving, etc.

And please keep us posted on his career as a Bearcat.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 11, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

draft a lt

Posted by: mdoughtie22 | February 11, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Also what's with the Snow, why is it all like,"Shmeh I am gonna block up your side walk."

Posted by: alex35332 | February 11, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse


Sidewalk? I wish it was just the sidewalk.

My whole subdivision is blocked up.

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

mh, good for him, all the best to him in this endeavor....congrats

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 11, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

IMO if the QB is the pick at 4 it will be Clausen. But after just having watched a lot of highlights and read scouting reports I'm hoping that they go Davis LT at 4 and LeFevour in the 2nd round. He's got a quick release looked very accurate and in a couple highlights when the pocket broke down he had great awareness either avoided and got the throw off or scrambled. Apparently he grew up as a running back according to an interview on First Take. The only thing I've consistently read as a downside is he doesn't have the strongest arm. IMO plenty of QBs have proved awareness, accuracy, and ability to read defenses can mitigate not having a cannon. And JC has proven having a big arm doesn't cover up inaccuracy, poor pocket awareness, slow release, and inability to read defenses.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 11, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

p1,
I guess its a perk of urban living:P

Posted by: alex35332 | February 11, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

For anyone that cares, my nephew signed with University of Cincinnati.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 11, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse


Interesting. How's he feeling about the Brian Kelly departure?

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I really dig being off work since 12 PM LAST Friday... hahahahaha

I know it's probably not the best way to go but if they did draft Bradford, I wouldn't really trip like that.

mh, you're nephew is the OL, right?

Posted by: RedDMV | February 11, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

i thought the combine started on feb 24 not march 24

Posted by: stefbecke21 | February 11, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

IMO if the QB is the pick at 4 it will be Clausen...

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 11, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Claussen will probably go #1 to the Rams.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 11, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

He picked UC due to the closeness to his family and his friends going there. Originally settled on VT or ODU(ability to play immediately and make an impact), but new coach Butch Jones called and met with him and he felt really comfortable with the system, basically the same as Coach Kelly utilizes and what his H.S. team played. More likely than anything they will move him to Safety or a 3rd down back, full money, live at home and have his dad off his back for cost of college really won out more than anything.

Thanks for asking. He also is thrilled about all the money they are dumping into the program, new state of the art bubble practicing fields, growth in stadium, sponsorship and the ability to play in a bowl game pretty much every year if the program continues.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 11, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

from M Kelly,

"First and foremost, he's real accurate. His accuracy is well above average and he makes smart decisions. He's not going to force too many things."

Accurate, he's real accurate.

A native American might become a favored redskin, think of it.

Accurate and on the mark is what I thought about Bradford while watching the National Championship game he played in against Florida a year ago.

He threw darts into tight coverage by Janoris Jenkins and Joe Haden while getting the stuff knocked out of him.

Before the shoulder injury, I'd say, "Yeah, take him at 4. He's very, very accurate."

But not now as selecting a quarterback with an injured shoulder isn't an accurate--or smart--way of doing foobtall businees.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"With already so much buzz about the Redskins possibly using the No. 4 overall pick to draft quarterback Sam Bradford"

There are no buzz, what is left will be a nightmare if No. 4 is actually spent on a college QB with a severely damaged throwing arm.

Posted by: abxinc | February 11, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Red he is a QB/ athlete is what they had him listed at. He ran and threw for the new coaches and came in a quick 4.32 in the 40 with digital timing, benched 325 22 times, kid is only 6'1 200 lbs. He is pretty excited.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 11, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

red, I hope your snow shovel breaks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 11, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

red, I hope your snow shovel breaks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

LMAO! That's just wrong man!

Posted by: jm220 | February 11, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

jm, haha, yeah, I tried to make it as nice as I could and still get my point across...

I could have added that I hoped the stores were out of new shovels when he went to replace it, but red's good in my book, so I toned it down...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 11, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

sorry to hear about all the damn snow in the DC area, we came home to about 10 inches in Cincy, but they really know how to handle the bad weather here...

Saw something today about Skins going after T. Pashos for OL in FA and drafting the kid from Rutgers at #4 by McShay.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 11, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

The Rams pretty much have to go QB. They will have a new owner & probably move to LA. Coach Spags doesn't have full roster control otherwise,he would select DT Suh. This team needs a lot & they have to start with a franchise QB & face of the franchise. Clausen & Bradford would be wise picks at picks 10-20,but not at #4! Next years QB class looks a lot better! Just say no to Redskins selecting QB at #4! I'll tell you what,highly unlikely though,but if Berry is there at #4, we should grab him. I think we could use him at CB and FS,but even better we could trade him for picks/current NFL players.

Posted by: adamaniba | February 11, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Count me OUT of the group that wants to keep Campbell around another year "and draft a QB next year".

Posted by: rickyroge | February 11, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Bean I like how you kept it clean and fun. Sometimes people really cross the line and make the blog ugly.

Posted by: jm220 | February 11, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

It's highly unlikely we draft a QB with our first round pick.

The pick will be in all likelihood be used on an O lineman.

Though I do like Bradford, I just don't see him coming here.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 11, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Giants cut Antonio Pierce. Redskins should never have let him go. Sign him now!!!! He will be a beast two games a year when he makes Midgets of the Giants.

Posted by: Agree2Disagree | February 11, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse


Youre an idiot! Yes, we can sign him and take Fletcher out of two games this year and put the traitor has-been AP in his place, and since the Skins havent decided what defense they are running yet, why make that idiotic move..Thank god youre a dumb fan and not in the Front office now huh Vinny!

Posted by: ocskins | February 11, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

But not now as selecting a quarterback with an injured shoulder isn't an accurate--or smart--way of doing foobtall businees.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Let's ask the Miami Dolphins about that. I'm thinking they'd like to have a do-over about signing Drew Brees about now . . .

Posted by: rbpalmer | February 11, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Why would the new Rams owner move the team to LA? Where did you even get that idea? The guy who bought the team is from Illinois, if anything they are moving to Chicago.

Kidding asside the new owner said he wants to keep them in ST.L

Posted by: alex35332 | February 11, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

LMAO @ "Sour Beans"

Man, it's looks like freakin Buffalo outside! I gotta see my chiro after all the shoveling the last few days.

mh, thats whats good. I hope he gets his shine on while he's there.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 11, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"Can someone show me a spread-shotgun college QB that has become a franchise QB in the NFL?"

Have you ever heard of Drew Brees?

Posted by: brianc2540 | February 11, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

My wife just tried to engage me in the global warming debate, lol. I wasn't biting.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | February 11, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

red, how was football?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 11, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"Can someone show me a spread-shotgun college QB that has become a franchise QB in the NFL?"

Have you ever heard of Drew Brees?

Posted by: brianc2540


I know the question implied that you may have to give only one answer, but I hate when a question like that is posed and people give ONE name.

Who else ya got?

Posted by: RedDMV | February 11, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone beside me think the Kelly offered those glowing remarks about Bradford in contrast to Campbell? What did he say Bradford was? Accurate? Campbell isn't. Good decision maker? Uhm. Shows some leadership in the huddle? Geeee. I am sure you can read into that any number of ways but I just thought it odd that he seemed to emphasize the qualities in Bradford that are deficiencies in Campbell.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 11, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

RSH,
I think your reading into it a bit much. Seemed like caned responses to me.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 11, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

If we are seriously considering Bradford, why not just go ahead and sign Graham Harrell off the street?

He's got similar gaudy college numbers.

He doesn't have a busted shoulder.

And he won't cost us a #4 overall pick.

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 2:17 PM |
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Kiper has Bradford as the #4 ranked talent in the draft. Don't even try to compare!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | February 11, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

bean, football was great. Final score: 14-7, my squad won. I played receiver and safety. But indeed you were right, everyone was mad sore after that game. We all found out we aren't as graceful we once were. It's not something we do everyday...

But with the night snow fall with the lights on it was crazy fun. We all felt like we were in Jr. high again.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 11, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

draft a qb at #4 would just be continuing the past decades wrongs... plus, if you don't have an 0-line to protect him he will end up link heath shuler or patrick ramsey!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | February 11, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

It's highly unlikely we draft a QB with our first round pick.

The pick will be in all likelihood be used on an O lineman.

Though I do like Bradford, I just don't see him coming here.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 11, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

As was mentioned by a previous poster, I think we'll get a much better idea about what they'll do in the draft by seeing whom they sign in free agency. However, I don't share the view of a lot of the posters here that they HAVE to go O-line with the no. 4 overall pick. Good, and even great, O-lines have been built without using high first round picks, including our beloved Hogs (two undrafted free agents(Bostic and Jacoby), a third-round pick (HOFer Grimm), a holdover from the previous regime (11th round pick Starke), and a late first round pick (May)).

Posted by: rbpalmer | February 11, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

To RedDMV:

Brees is probably the only one who played in a spread shotgun system in college, although Tom Brady won the MVP operating out of the spread shotgun for the Pats two years ago.

I don't think it makes much sense to judge a college QB just based on the system though. If your scouts think he has the size, arm, accuracy and demeanor to be an NFL QB, I don't care what system he ran in college. Plus, you can look at what Landry Jones did for OU in Bradford's place this year and see how much better they were with Bradford running the offense.

I also think that the spread was first adopted at less-established schools (like Houston, Purdue, Texas Tech, Kentucky) b/c they were looking for any advantage they could get. It was only in the last 3-5 years that more of the big boys like Florida and Texas and Michigan started running it. If USC had started running the spread too, would Sanchez have been a worst prospect in last year's draft?

Posted by: brianc2540 | February 11, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

"Can someone show me a spread-shotgun college QB that has become a franchise QB in the NFL?"

Have you ever heard of Drew Brees?

Posted by: brianc2540


I know the question implied that you may have to give only one answer, but I hate when a question like that is posed and people give ONE name.

Who else ya got?

Posted by: RedDMV | February 11, 2010 3:32 PM
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There might be a couple of names, but the list is very short. I say keep away from Bradford. The injury history alone is enough for the team to be skeptical.

I'm not sold on Claussen, either. He's a guy with good numbers who can't win football games. Sound familiar? No thanks.

I'd pick an offensive tackle first - Okung would be my preference if available - and then I would pick up Tony Pike in the second round as a QB to sit a year, learn and get bigger/stronger.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 11, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I always feel sorry for guys that get drafted by the Redskins... maybe things will be different now, but I don't see many players saying "wow, I have a great chance to be on a championship team here in Washington." The money might be good and you can get all the Johnny Rockets you want, but I really wonder what goes on in those guys' heads when the Redskins are calling to draft them.

Posted by: Dorf | February 11, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I know the question implied that you may have to give only one answer, but I hate when a question like that is posed and people give ONE name.

Who else ya got?

Posted by: RedDMV | February 11, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Big Ben came from a spread attack, still kind of plays in one at least this year they did. Aaron Rodgers came from the same spread Jeff Tedford system that was supposedly Ryan Leaf's downfall. Flacco. Orton. Vince Young. Cutler.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 11, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"Can someone show me a spread-shotgun college QB that has become a franchise QB in the NFL?"

Have you ever heard of Drew Brees?

Posted by: brianc2540


I know the question implied that you may have to give only one answer, but I hate when a question like that is posed and people give ONE name.

Who else ya got?

Posted by: RedDMV | February 11, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse


Thanks for saving me the trouble Red...

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

brianc2540, I hear that. I think with the NFL going to more of a passing league it won't be the most terrible thing in the world if a college QB operated out of the spread.

As long as he makes good decisions and can make ALL the throws is what really matters anyway.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 11, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Big Ben came from a spread attack, still kind of plays in one at least this year they did. Aaron Rodgers came from the same spread Jeff Tedford system that was supposedly Ryan Leaf's downfall. Flacco. Orton. Vince Young. Cutler.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 11, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Good call on Rodgers. One of the reasons he fell in the draft was b/c everyone was nervous about Tedford's system after Boller busted...

Posted by: brianc2540 | February 11, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"Why would the new Rams owner move the team to LA? Where did you even get that idea? The guy who bought the team is from Illinois, if anything they are moving to Chicago."

AKA42
It's been well publicized for monthes, that the City of LA is willing to contribute to building a new state of the stadium for a team that relocates there. The Rams, Vickings & Jags are usually metioned. The fact that they used to be based out of LA doesn't hurt either smart guy!

Posted by: adamaniba | February 11, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

alex, the team I'd like to see relocated to LA is Jacksonville.

I don't know what the league was thinking in putting a team there -- an area with a small population and without a big corporate base, in the midst of three established NFL franchises and college football ground zero -- but it was a massive mistake, and they need to make it right.

F LA, and all that, but pro football in Jacksonville was and is a terrible idea.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 11, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

+++ But after just having watched a lot of highlights and read scouting reports I'm hoping that they go Davis LT at 4 +++

I went to Rutgers and saw about six RU games this year. Davis is a right tackle in the pros or a guard. I saw him give up 5-6 sacks, against quick DEs. Look, Rutgers Ray Rice was a steal in the second round, and Kenny Britt may become an All-Pro, but I would NEVER use a #4 overall on a guy with Davis's skills.

Posted by: TheCork | February 11, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV, that is my thought exactly. Your scouting department just needs to do a good job breaking down tape to try and get rid of all the WR screens and RB dump-offs to isolate a) the throws that they would need the QB to make consistently in the pros, and b) the QB's ability to throw quickly and accurately when they are under pressure.

Posted by: brianc2540 | February 11, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

* beep beep *

new post...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 11, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

To RedDMV:

Brees is probably the only one who played in a spread shotgun system in college, although Tom Brady won the MVP operating out of the spread shotgun for the Pats two years ago.

I don't think it makes much sense to judge a college QB just based on the system though. If your scouts think he has the size, arm, accuracy and demeanor to be an NFL QB, I don't care what system he ran in college. Plus, you can look at what Landry Jones did for OU in Bradford's place this year and see how much better they were with Bradford running the offense.

I also think that the spread was first adopted at less-established schools (like Houston, Purdue, Texas Tech, Kentucky) b/c they were looking for any advantage they could get. It was only in the last 3-5 years that more of the big boys like Florida and Texas and Michigan started running it. If USC had started running the spread too, would Sanchez have been a worst prospect in last year's draft?

Posted by: brianc2540 | February 11, 2010 3:43 PM
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See, I don't think a background in a spread offense is a deal breaker, but it does muddy the waters when a scout is evaluating the player. Some of these quarterbacks put up some sick stats in college and it is difficult to compare them to quarterbacks coming from more traditional offenses. Years ago, I can remember all of the QB's coming out of Houston who were leading the nation in passing but didn't pan out in the NFL. Like I say, the system kind of muddies the waters and makes it hard to see the real athlete beneath the statistics.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 11, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

An accurate passer? A qb with some personality, that makes good decisions and doesn't get rattled when things get tight? The Skins don't need none of that! The Saints qb has none of those qualities (actually, come to think of it, he does). The Saints won because of their 1st round pick left tackle - wait - the Saints starter at left tackle was on IR. The Saints won the superbowl with a backup left tackle?? Maybe a good qb can overcome a bad o-line. The Cardinals got to the 2nd round of the playoffs with a left tackle that we cut in preseason (Bridges). Guess their qb overcame that deficiency too. Draft Bradford.

Posted by: coparker5 | February 11, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

I think the team everyone wants to see move to LA is Jacksonville.

Move em to LA, call em the Sharks and create a natural LA/NYJ rivalry, you could even keep them in the AFC South.

Jacksonville reportedly averaged 40,000 ppl in attendance per game.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 11, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

LOL @ Antonio Pierce getting the "axel foley".

Never liked how he liked dogging the Redskins at every chance he got. Probably wouldn't be an overstatement to say be benefited from a good to great front four while in NY.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 11, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

look yes we need a Oline iam not diagreeing with that the point iam making is that you cam find O-lineman in the later rounds such as 2nd thirds fourth and so on all the skins have to do is trade down and collect additional draft picks if they can do that here are some of the lineman can be available inthe later rounds and they can still pick up Oline man from free agency after the draft besides you have Edwin Williams deserving a chance to start at Center which solves one of your problems
mike johnson.G alabama 6-6-305
mike Pouncey Gflorida 6-5-320
Ciron black Tlsu 6-5 325
Rocco Cironi T Michigan state 6-6 310
Gabe Carimi T wisconsin 6-8 313

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | February 11, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

"As was mentioned by a previous poster, I think we'll get a much better idea about what they'll do in the draft by seeing whom they sign in free agency. However, I don't share the view of a lot of the posters here that they HAVE to go O-line with the no. 4 overall pick. Good, and even great, O-lines have been built without using high first round picks, including our beloved Hogs (two undrafted free agents(Bostic and Jacoby), a third-round pick (HOFer Grimm), a holdover from the previous regime (11th round pick Starke), and a late first round pick (May))."

AKA 42

I agree 100% specially since the Skins will be running the zone blocking scheme. These guys are late round/undrafted. If we stay at #4, we don't have to get crazy & take a LT. There is a lot of talent in this draft & best case would be to trade down to get extra picks! Hail!!!!!!!

Posted by: adamaniba | February 11, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Big Ben came from a spread attack, still kind of plays in one at least this year they did. Aaron Rodgers came from the same spread Jeff Tedford system that was supposedly Ryan Leaf's downfall. Flacco. Orton. Vince Young. Cutler.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 11, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse


Roethlisberger - yes.

From what I'm reading about Rodgers, he played in a mixed system at Cal.

I don't count Flacco as a franchise QB. He needs to show me he can do more than hand the ball off and not throw INTs.

Orton is definitely not a franchise QB.

Vince Young is a bit of a mixed bag. He showed some promise and strides forward in his passing this season, but it's been a rough transition for him to the NFL. His early success was due in large part to his scrambling ability.

Jay Cutler is a mixed bag too. He had that one nice season in Denver, but the numbers were skewed by the absence of a consistent running game and playing without a defense. He's definitely not looking like any kind of franchise QB in Chicago.

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"At #4 overall we are talking about a franchise quality QB."


And given the market and contractual vissitudes of the NFL, whomever you draft must start.

If it's Clausen or Bradford, let him sit just long enough to have your newly acquired lineman and pass catchers prove that all the added help didn't help Jason Campbell (that is, if you even keep Campbell).

And if you draft a guy at #4 why even groom him?: get'em on the field, throw some offensive linemen in front of him, and shout, "Pardon Our Mess While We re-build!" to the fans.

So many of these kids are leaving college with a major understanding of the pro game that any 2-3 college starter comes in ready to do as much as his ability will allow.

Clausen in particular has had Charlie Weis tutoring him in the ways of Brady.

And if his combine and pro day work shines, perhaps Shanny's interest in Bradford might start to wane.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Ahem.. Full disclosure: I am from and grew up in Oklahoma. I now live in DC. Admittedly I know more about the Sooners than I do about the Redskins, but I know A TON about the Sooners. 1. Bradford's shoulder will be fine. 2. He'll be the next Elway and who better to coach him than Shanahan. 3. Pass on him and the 'Skins shall regret it. 4. Clausen is awful, He hasn't faced anywhere NEAR the talent Bradford has. 5. We play tough football in the Big 12. 6. If the Skins draft Bradford, I'm an instant fan and I'll be singing 'Hail to them, all night long.'

BOOMER!

Posted by: B1Walker | February 11, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"Lindsey Vonn Says She Feels Good Enough to Train"

Published: February 11, 2010

WHISTLER, British Columbia — Lindsey Vonn felt good enough after a morning course inspection to attempt a scheduled training run Thursday, an indication that her injured shin may not keep her from chasing a gold medal haul after all.

I don't know nothing about skiing, but Ms. Vonn has been added to the "Brand New Booty" list.

That lil girl is fine, and if is her shin needs some work, well, I'll grab my ski pole, find her, and then see what I can do.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

To anyone suggesting we draft any QB with the #4 pick, how well do you think he is going to do running for his life beyond our offensive line? Ask Jason Campbell, who can at least run. We not only need to draft an OL with #4 but with most of our high draft picks. The line is BUSTED!

Posted by: ar652 | February 11, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

An accurate passer? A qb with some personality, that makes good decisions and doesn't get rattled when things get tight? The Skins don't need none of that! The Saints qb has none of those qualities (actually, come to think of it, he does). The Saints won because of their 1st round pick left tackle - wait - the Saints starter at left tackle was on IR. The Saints won the superbowl with a backup left tackle?? Maybe a good qb can overcome a bad o-line. The Cardinals got to the 2nd round of the playoffs with a left tackle that we cut in preseason (Bridges). Guess their qb overcame that deficiency too. Draft Bradford.

Posted by: coparker5 | February 11, 2010 3:58 PM

Amen brother, if your qb can make lightning quick decision, you could start a grandma at LT and still get descent protection

Posted by: Istudydrugs | February 11, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Can someone show me a spread-shotgun college QB that has become a franchise QB in the NFL?

I wouldn't have picked Bradford at #4 even before the shoulder injury.

With the injury, I hope it'd be a foregone conclusion.

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 1:58 PM |

Vinny's gone so hopefully we won't be taking another injury risk from okey dokey U

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 11, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Amen brother, if your qb can make lightning quick decision, you could start a grandma at LT and still get descent protection

Posted by: Istudydrugs | February 11, 2010 5:21 PM

I'm sure you meant decent not descent. Yes, if you have a quick witted QB he can bail you out of some situations. The problem is that only works if you're running short, quick routes. Nothing downfield where it takes time for the receiver to get open and no long developing plays. Another problem is that it becomes real hard to run to the left no matter how good your QB is.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 11, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Ahem.. Full disclosure: I am from and grew up in Oklahoma. I now live in DC. Admittedly I know more about the Sooners than I do about the Redskins, but I know A TON about the Sooners. 1. Bradford's shoulder will be fine. 2. He'll be the next Elway and who better to coach him than Shanahan. 3. Pass on him and the 'Skins shall regret it. 4. Clausen is awful, He hasn't faced anywhere NEAR the talent Bradford has. 5. We play tough football in the Big 12. 6. If the Skins draft Bradford, I'm an instant fan and I'll be singing 'Hail to them, all night long.'

BOOMER!

Posted by: B1Walker | February 11, 2010 5:12 PM |

1) Are you a doctor that has examined his shoulder? 2) He will NOT be the next Elway, he'll be lucky to be he next Flacco. 3) We regret a lot of things already, I doubt passing on an injury prone QB will be ranking at the top of that list. 4)Clausen is not awful and he faced some pretty good teams. 5)HA, as opposed to who. You had 7 teams at or below 500 last year. 6)Whateves, if it is only because Bradford is here then we don't need you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 11, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

"Big Ben came from a spread attack, still kind of plays in one at least this year they did. Aaron Rodgers came from the same spread Jeff Tedford system that was supposedly Ryan Leaf's downfall. Flacco. Orton. Vince Young. Cutler.Posted by: zjfr2"

As they say, there are spread offenses, and then there are spread offenses.

Bradford and Colt McCoy played in offenses that were designed to get the receiver open underneath the coverage, often by several yards or more, and then relied on him to make up the difference after the catch. You need superior athletes to make that work (Oklahoma) as well as great QB/WR communication (McCoy/Shipley). Bradford is more accurate than McCoy, while McCoy is more mobile. Both are an advantage in a scheme where the blockers are 'spread' out and the challenge is to keep the pass rush out. Both were trained to make quick decisions and get rid of the ball underneath when pressured.

Tedford played a system like that at Cal, and you see how many of his QBs struggle in the NFL (don't forget Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for several seasons and still gets sacked a lot.) Roethlisberger and Flacco are classic drop-back, downfield throwers who hold onto the ball until the receiver comes open. Vince Young -- I think there's some merit to the argument that Vince isn't yet a QB, in the usual NFL sense.

We can expect Sam to have a period of adjustment in the NFL. Doesn't mean he won't be a terrific QB at some point. Clausen will have less of an adjustment. LeFevour has the advantage of being a good runner, not that he'll be able to use it as much in the pros. Pike's advantage is height, for what that's worth. We should remember that when he went out for a string of games in the middle of the season, Cincy put in a shorter, mobile QB and didn't miss a beat.

I suspect none of the QBs in this class has the sheer physical gifts of, say, a Jay Cutler, a Matt Stafford, or (thinking next year) a Ryan Mallett of Arkansas. Matt Barkley may turn out to be better than any of them. But QB is such a difficult position to evaluate, especially if you're expecting somebody to come in and play right away.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 11, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

kelly is smart he is talking about his former teammate but bradford does not appear to be able to take a good hit and already has some major injuries..if he is around on the 3rd-4th round take him but he is NOT a 1st round (no.4)pick, trade down.

Posted by: wathu19 | February 11, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

IMO Clausen's tenure at Notre Dame was clouded unnecessarily by the stigma of unmet expectations. That offense played extremely well for most of last season. Clausen was criticized in some quarters for 'putting too much air under the ball', but most great deep passers do -- that's how they get it over the DB (remember Doug Williams when he was with the Skins? Mark Rypien?)

Posted by: Samson151 | February 11, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

It's funny to see MK all giddy about wanting Bradford to join us and how he doesn't like "serious" QB's in the huddle that don't have a clue (like Campbell). He won't come right out and say it but ...

Posted by: jsmith33351 | February 11, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

1) Are you a doctor that has examined his shoulder? 2) He will NOT be the next Elway, he'll be lucky to be he next Flacco. 3) We regret a lot of things already, I doubt passing on an injury prone QB will be ranking at the top of that list. 4)Clausen is not awful and he faced some pretty good teams. 5)HA, as opposed to who. You had 7 teams at or below 500 last year. 6)Whateves, if it is only because Bradford is here then we don't need you.

Posted by: scampbell1975

In your first point, I'm sure you meant to write The rather than he, Your 5th point, when referring to winning percentage its .500 not 500 lmao chill out before you get an MI by bashing everyone's post, cheers

Posted by: Istudydrugs | February 11, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

In your first point, I'm sure you meant to write The rather than he, Your 5th point, when referring to winning percentage its .500 not 500 lmao chill out before you get an MI by bashing everyone's post, cheers

Posted by: Istudydrugs | February 11, 2010 7:28 PM

Just trying to stimulate some debate and yes I meant all those things. Lol

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 11, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

First, stop talking about Colt, I hope SHanny cuts him.

I wish mhartz1 would shut his mouth more.

Posted by: mhartz1

Kiss my butt mhartz1- two years ago in pre-season when Colt wasn't injured, he played better than any Redskin QB I have seen in a long time-Now he's healthy again. You and everyone believed he was the second coming
Don't criticize him until you get to see him play when healthy.
Go back on vacation-your opinion are not needed

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 11, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, cut Colt and he may end up on a Superbowl team like Kyle DeVan and Chase Daniel.....

Morons, if they go after a rookie QB. Skins need an Oline, they got QBs on their roster.

Posted by: GoSk1ns | February 11, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

What does anybody think of the idea of trading DE Carter and 2011 2nd & 4th/5th round picks maybe for Peppers?

Posted by: adamaniba | February 11, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse


I think it would be dumb because Peppers is an unrestricted free agent.

Posted by: p1funk | February 11, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

__________________________________

Hilarious... do your research before you post... but actually, what if Peppers gets franchised but they still are willing to deal??

I don't think so... let everyone we have develop... Orakpo has Hall of Fame quality to him & then you also have Jarmon.

We need the most picks we can get to give this team some much needed youth & speed.

Posted by: tony325 | February 11, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I watched 2 different highlite videos of Bradford. Several points stuck out. One, he is very accurate. And he has great touch on short, medium, and long throws. Does a great job of easing the ball over linebackers heads on medium range over the middle routes. Two, he almost never gets any significant pressure. Third, his receivers ALWAYS have very good separation. I did not see even ONE pass rifled into a small window in either video I watched, and you know if it happened, they would have gotten it onto the video because his arm strength is frequently questioned. Maybe he never had to do so becauase his receivers were so good? Bottom line is that I have no idea how to evaluate how a QB will do in the NFL when in college he always has time to eat a ham sandwhich before he throws the ball to a wide open receiver.

Posted by: kenboy1 | February 12, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

1. It bothers me when fans say "let's bring JC for one year" Campbell is NOT interested in a one year deal. He played this season with a long term deal in mind. We'll low ball him, hoping that someone will give us a 3rd or 4th round pick.

2. Our O-line is NOT that bad. Not great, but not as horrible. Other teams came with constant blitzes because they are not affraid to be beaten by Campbell. They are confident that Campbell will NOT read the blitz and make them pay.

3. If Dr. Andrews tells the Redskins that Bradford's shoulder is fine, then draft the kid. AC joint injury is not the end of the world. (I work in the medical field)

Bradford would have been the 1st pick if drafted last year. Why make the same mistake other teams made when they passed on Brees?

We can still draft a right guard with the 2nd pick. And sign a LT in free agency. Many available.

Posted by: Redskin_in_miami | February 12, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Kelly needs to just shut up and concentrate on what he does on the field. That is if the bum ever gets on the field. Hated the Kelly pick and still do...Now I have to listen to "QB at #4" and it stinks.

No, No, No...

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | February 12, 2010 6:03 AM | Report abuse

A couple of things in this post:

"Bradford passed for 3,121 yards with 36 touchdowns and only eight interceptions. He completed 69.5 percent of his passes and had a 176.52 quarterback rating."

Unless the college game has a very different formula for QB ratings, the max rating is 158.3. That is perfect, doesn't get any higher. So I'm not sure where 176.52 comes from since that's even possible.

"The better the players are that are around Sam, the better he will be able to do. You get a group of guys around him who are professionals, that will help him out a whole lot. Hopefully, whoever ends up drafting him, if they just give him time to get adjusted, it'll be the same thing for him."

Um, you could say that of ANY QB in the league. So if there's any thought that this guy can't win games by himself, then you've basically drafted Jason Campbell 2.0.

Play it safe; draft an OT at #4 and get LeFever in Round 2 if you're pressed to get a QB. No QB is worth a top 4 pick this year, so let's not force it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 12, 2010 6:07 AM | Report abuse

1. It bothers me when fans say "let's bring JC for one year" Campbell is NOT interested in a one year deal. He played this season with a long term deal in mind. We'll low ball him, hoping that someone will give us a 3rd or 4th round pick.

2. Our O-line is NOT that bad. Not great, but not as horrible. Other teams came with constant blitzes because they are not affraid to be beaten by Campbell. They are confident that Campbell will NOT read the blitz and make them pay.

3. If Dr. Andrews tells the Redskins that Bradford's shoulder is fine, then draft the kid. AC joint injury is not the end of the world. (I work in the medical field)

Bradford would have been the 1st pick if drafted last year. Why make the same mistake other teams made when they passed on Brees?

We can still draft a right guard with the 2nd pick. And sign a LT in free agency. Many available.

Posted by: Redskin_in_miami | February 12, 2010 1:37 AM


Ok dude, categorically wrong...and I'll answer each number you posted:

1. JC has no choice. The new rules of the uncapped season makes unrestricted free agency available only to players with 6 years of service or more. JC doesn't fit that bill. So he's a restricted FA, meaning he can be tendered at a certain level of compensation (likely somewhere between $1 and $2 million) and he's pretty much gotta take it. So if JC is pressed for a long term deal, he'll have to wait at least another year to get it.

2. If you think the O-line is "not that bad", then you just haven't seen Redskin football for the last 1 1/2 seasons.

3. Working in the medical field doesn't give you any insight into one given patient's condition. While an AC joint injury "is not the end of the world" in most cases, we have no idea the true severity of Bradford's injury in particular.

And comparing him to Drew Brees is laughable for two reasons: 1) Brees and Bradford didn't have the same injury and 2) Brees had a one in a million recovery from an injury that he said last week he had only about a 25% chance of coming back from. Brees probably would have had a better chance of winning the lottery in all 50 states than playing BETTER than he did before the injury.

Also: if you think there's a franchise LT available in FA, you're mistaken. Any LT worth the big price tag on the open market is going to get resigned by his current team before there's a chance of him getting to FA. The uncapped year will ensure that the available talent in FA will be very watered down. Drafting well is the only way this thing gets turned around (and it's not going to happen all in one offseason!).

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 12, 2010 6:27 AM | Report abuse

It's the O-Line stupid!!! If you want a QB over O-Line, you haven't been watching the games. NO QB in the league could prosper w/ our current O-Line and mediocre recieving corp. The offense needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, starting w/ the O-Line, then moving on to a QB, a RB and some recievers. It's a total mess that will take years to fix.

Posted by: pstrboy | February 12, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

What the Skins do in FA will determine everything, period. If they get some help on the line, they will definitely go with Bradford. Justifying it by saying they shored up the line and get more help for the line by later round picks.
Me being an armchair GM, I would trade the #4 and 1 or or 2 NEED players to Seattle, for their #6 and #14. Then trade # 6 Down to get a later 1st round and another second and a 3rd. This would give me:
2 first round (14TH pick on O-line, later on safety)
2 second round (draft Pike to sit behind JC for a year, and an O-lineman)
1 third round ( best available CB,LB,RB)
1 forth round (best available CB,LB,RB)
5th and 7th round Best available athletes
FA starting O-Line help (Best YOUNG baller available, Just pay him!
FA Best young LB baller available.
Then have this all world coaching staff coach 'em up.

Posted by: boysheadcoach | February 12, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Also,
There are a lot of Players (JRs) coming out this year that have talent that will not be drafted. The post Draft FA market this particular year is going to be exceptional to the teams that do their due diligence on scouting the depth of this draft. There will be players that will eventually start from this FA pool.

Posted by: boysheadcoach | February 12, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

O-LINE!!!! We already 3 QB's that can get it done if they have an O-LINE

Posted by: job22 | February 12, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

1. JC has no choice. The new rules of the uncapped season makes unrestricted free agency available only to players with 6 years of service or more. JC doesn't fit that bill. So he's a restricted FA, meaning he can be tendered at a certain level of compensation (likely somewhere between $1 and $2 million) and he's pretty much gotta take it. So if JC is pressed for a long term deal, he'll have to wait at least another year to get it.
Posted by: brownwood26
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So you say we force Campbell to take a low ball offer because he has no other choice?? You think that is best having a disgruntled QB to lead us in 2010??? Sounds to me that is a disaster in the making. Look if Campbell is not the QB the skins want for the long term.. which he shouldn't be.. get rid of him now. Why have a guy who doesn't want to be here. In fact Theismann even asked JC that directly about wanting to be the Redskin QB and he wouldn't say yes. There are a number of QB's that can be used as a bridge if the Redskins draft a QB. I still say give Colt a shot... he can't be worse than Campbell.. and maybe he will be really good. Then draft a QB in a later round. like Pike or LeFlevour or Zac Robinson in case Colt doesn't work out...

Posted by: sovine08 | February 12, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Heath Shuler.

Posted by: AsstGM | February 12, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

The best case scenerio would be to trade this pick and aquire more draft picks. If not I would take an offensive tackle. Unless Shanahan really believes Clausen or Bradford is a potential franchise QB it would be very risky to have another potential bust with this high of a pick. The Skins have struggled for many years with Shuler, Ramsey, and Campbell who didn't have the talent around them to have any chance of succeeding.

Chances are the Skins will have a fairly high pick next year and it is always better to have decent talent around a QB before you draft him.

Posted by: skinsFan74 | February 12, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

As a fan of Sam's and after reading most of these posts I'm praying he doesn't get drafted by the Skins.

Posted by: hickersonstan | February 12, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

JOE MONTANA, PEYTON MANNING OR TOM BRADY COULDN'T WIN BEHIND THIS O-LINE!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 12, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Please draft Clausen. He's the real deal. It's honestly not close for anyone who watched Clausen this year. Stronger arm and more accurate no matter what anyone says. Attitude problems are made up, non-existant. Skin's need Clausen.

Posted by: mmurph211 | February 12, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

I really hope that Shanny uses that QB knowledge to draft someone in the lower rounds. I think they should deal the #4 pick anyway to get 2 first-rounders if possible. Then draft offensive linemen with both of those picks. THIS TEAM IS GOING TO SUCK UNTIL THE HOGS ARE REBUILT. Also, we won't have Buges to help a ragtag bunch overachieve anymore.

Posted by: ar652 | February 13, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I would be willing to bet that those of you who are so convinced that Bradford will be a bust have not watched a whole lot of Bradford in action.
Despite what some people are saying, he is not the type of QB who played in an offensive system, which dumped the ball off underneath and dinked and dunked his way to gaudy statistics. Just as with Adrian Peterson, he will be undervalued in the draft. And just like Adrian Peterson, when all is said and done, he will be one of the very elite QB's playing in the game within 5 years. Why? Because of his intuitive intelligence which far surpasses the majority of QB play.

Posted by: hithere4 | February 16, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

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