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Marcus Washington Downgraded - Other Injury Stuff

Marcus "came up a little sore" Coach Joe said and did not practice today. The LB has been downgraded to questionable and the coach did not seem all that optimisitic that he would be able to play due to a lingering hamstring problem.

Gibbs said they "might work him out before the game" to test Washington's fitness and ability to play, but if the soreness persists even that might not be the case. Marcus played sparingly in last week's loss after missing two games and practiced hard Thursday and was bracing for a full role back in the base defense before this setback.

As in the case of CB Fred Smoot, hamstrings are tricky. Everyone says Smoot will play this Sunday, but his hammy is threatening to be a problem all season as well and the team can no longer afford the luxury of resting him.

C Mike Pucillo missed practice again with a back problem but Coach Joe said he expects him to play Sunday. He is questionable.

WR James Thrash was held out of most drills with a hamstring problem and is listed as probable. If he does play you would think he might be limited to special teams and maybe that opens up the spot for Keenan McCardell to play more regularly as the No. 3 WR. Backup TE Todd Yoder is also probable with an ankle injury.

Other than that, not much going on.

By Jason La Canfora  |  November 2, 2007; 1:38 PM ET
 
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panties again!

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Go Skins!

Posted by: bzn01 | November 2, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

What about Rock? Is he healthy now?

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I also want the Reaper just lay someone out.

Posted by: jm220 | November 2, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

(from previous post)

My guess is the Redskins won't be overly concerned with T. Jones. With Coles out and Mangini's game-planning based on last week's NE debacle, look for Williams to counter with Cover-3 and Landry close to the box, handling rushers and blitzing the rookie QB.

Posted by: tafka | November 2, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Tafka, we haven't bolted. I'm always a hit 'n run poster though. I just cannot watch a blog update all day while I'm at work.

Most of these two posts were good. It's the longer term pattern, along with swarmy pot shots like he took about McCardell's pt in the last post, that I don't like.

Posted by: Glass_Half_Full | November 2, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor's Mayhem Priority.

1) L. Coles (if he plays)
2) Cotchery
3) T. Jones

Posted by: tafka | November 2, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

How come Al Saunders never gets a hammy problem running up and down the field during practice. I wish he was downgraded to questionable.

Posted by: SeanTizzy2DaHizzy | November 2, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

HB Blades! Bring it!

Posted by: shuttledik | November 2, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

LaRon Landry's Mayhem Priority

1) K. Clemens
2) T. Jones
3) K. Clemens
4) K. Clemens
5) K. Clemens

Posted by: tafka | November 2, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Not sure you want Clemens hurt. His back up is probably better than him. I'd rather just see a few INT's.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Im so tired of hearing about more and more hamstring injuries, does noone know how to strech, I just dont get it.

Posted by: SAK | November 2, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I disagree with the game plan versus Clemens -- with a young QB you usually don't need to put pressure on him in order to force mistakes. Young QBs are not usually patient and able to progress through their reads. So you don't go Cover-1 or Cover-0, you drop into coverage and force him to make his progressions to find the open man, because more likely than not, he won't be successful at doing that. We want to force him to hold the ball, not dump it off quickly on a hot read.

Posted by: CMoney1 | November 2, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

SAK I notice watching the interviews on Skins.com that a lot of players have supplements at their lockers. I notice (not that I am comparing myself to them) when I don't drink a lot of water when taking my supplements my muscles hamstring and quads feel really tight. My concern all season is that they haven't increase their water intake.

Posted by: jm220 | November 2, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THESE HAMSTRING AND GROIN INJURIES. TIME TO DRAFT A NEW CORNER, OLB AND WR. THIS IS RIDICULOUS! NEW TRAINER WOULDN'T HURT EITHER.

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | November 2, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

McCardell ought to be ahead of Thrash anyway.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 2, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I've never seen so many hamstrings and groins on one team. Time to fire the trainer!!

Posted by: kurtus25 | November 2, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm getting sick and tired of all the hamstring injuries. I wish Al Saunders would get a hammy problem running up and down the field during practice. Don't these guys know how to stretch, I just don't get it.

Posted by: chelseatest | November 2, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

JM220, I know what you mean I took suplments in high school, I would imagine most do take them in the nfl just to keep their muscle mass. If it is just a matter of getting enough water then thats something the trainers should be making sure they do, kinda sounds like a simple thing they could prevent, and every friday there seems to be new injuries popping up.

Posted by: SAK | November 2, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

half of the roster has an ongoing problem with a hamstring or groin. This has gone beyond coincidence. Perhaps supplements have something to do with it. But I would certainly fire the trainer.

Posted by: kurtus25 | November 2, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the new theme should be "Lust for Hamstrings".

Posted by: tafka | November 2, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else see Kellen Clemens against the Ravens? He looked very very good at the end of that game. In fact, if they hadn't dropped two passes the Jets probably would have won. I was very impressed but the Jets went right back to Pennington.

Posted by: Glass_Half_Full | November 2, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Clemens was a pretty good QB in college (Oregon Ducks), right up until he broke his leg.

Posted by: tafka | November 2, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Hi my name is Benjamin Buford Blue, but you you can call me Bubba. Just like the trainer for the Washington Redskins....can u beled dat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a76rQTLGzRQ

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | November 2, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Good stuff these last two posts, Jasno. Very balanced.

Posted by: jcabana | November 2, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

No question it is something the trainers should be asking the players everyday. As well as making sure they have a nice warm up before working out. To me after the second pull they would have extended the warm up time.

Posted by: jm220 | November 2, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

"WR James Thrash was held out of most drills with a hamstring problem and is listed as probable. If he does play you would think he might be limited to special teams and maybe that opens up the spot for Keenan McCardell to play more regularly as the No. 3 WR."

Or...dare I say it...more plays for Brandon Lloyd? Anyone else noticed he has been working his way back on to the field more each week? I don't like him, but he's got a lot more speed than Keenan or Thrash and he might be useful, if for nothing else than sending him on a go route on every play just to take a defender with him.

Posted by: LiberalMike | November 2, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

If Brandon Lloyd went deep on every play, would anyone bother to cover him?

Posted by: tafka | November 2, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Kurtus, I was asking about Bubba after the GreenBay game... turns out he's Gibbs auld-skewl! he won't be going anywhere. unfortunately.

Posted by: shuttledik | November 2, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

The Riverboat Gambler will tell ya:

They all just need some R&R on a nice cruise!

hahahahahahah

Posted by: shuttledik | November 2, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Going to need everyone, even 85, to make some plays at some point if the O is going to improve.

Posted by: LiberalMike | November 2, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Ah, San Antonio, DFW, Houston - the trifecta! Now if we can just find someone in Austin to join us!

I'm here visiting my brother and his family in Austin. I've ensured the wife packed the full compliment of Redskins apparel for the family to wear tomorrow to Sea World in San Antonio. Showin' our Burgundy and Gold pride - can't wait for the nasty looks and comments!!!


Posted by: skinz57 | November 2, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

We can't send B. Lloyd on go routes every time because he might pull a hammy.

Posted by: kurtus25 | November 2, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I think the receivers are getting groin and hamstring pulls because we rarely go down field. Then when we finally run some deep routes their hammys and groins are very tight.

Posted by: kurtus25 | November 2, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I like Marcus Washington. Some do not like the way he celebrates after every tackle, but its todays game, they are entertainers before athletes.

Can someone explain (Not likely) why is it that he keeps getting hurt? How old is he 28 or 29? He can't seem to stay healthy. It seems everyone wants to point to performance enhancing drugs if a player who was playing at a high level and then all of the sudden falls off.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/21/AR2007072101176.html?hpid=sec-sports

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

skinz57, I'm in DFW and rock the Skins gear all the time and rarely ever get dirty looks or comments. I doubt you'll have any problems down there. Welcome to TX my friend.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

*YAWN*

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

After the Jets go 3 and out to start the game, they'll punt, and it will be downed at the 5-yard line. The Redskins will then embark on a physical, 34 play, 75 yard drive that eats up the remaining 28 minutes of the first half, and culminates in a Swiss-Ham field goal for a 3-0 halftime lead.

To protect that lead, Coach Gibbs decides to switch from his "aggresive" 1st half play calling to a much more conservative approach in the 2nd half. He calls for max-protect punts on 1st down, because "up here we play to our strength, which is the defense. Plus we don't want the Jets to think we're running up the score."

Posted by: 4-12 | November 2, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Timeout: We've been questless since our march to the Boren Ultimatum, but we do have a big milestone coming, probably Sunday (mvdame???? you counting????). It's our 120,000th post. We're 317 posts away....

Posted by: TheCindy | November 2, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

317 posts? That can be done by the end of today up here.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

LMGO 4-12, there's a shred of truth on your post that makes it even funnier!

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

MVDame has been missing just like the Reskins offense. Maybe he's the key.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I pulled my hammy trying to run away from the TV last sunday :(

Posted by: david | November 2, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the Texas-sized greeting, bigfish. I only hope that we leave town Monday with a win (and possibly a cowgirls loss) under our belts. Otherwise, I'm setting myself up for a boatload of ridicule walking through the Austin airport on Monday sporting my Skins jersey..

Posted by: skinz57 | November 2, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

RC - I've been hearing rumblings about your team going with Beck sooner than we thought. Anything solid yet?

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

They are splitting the snaps during bye week practices between Beck and Lemon. I think there's at least a 50% chance he starts after the bye now, and a 100% chance he starts in the next 2-3 weeks as long as he continues to look okay in practice.

I posted a link here yesterday that showed some of the stuff he can do - including an almost-completed 70yd pass attempt into the end zone on one game. IT will be really exciting to see what he can do with the first team offense, because he looked more than useful in pre-season and he has no fear at all.

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I hope he gives you guys the spark that you need to win a few games this year. A number one draft pick is nice but not at the expense of going 0-16 or 1-15. At least get him in there this year so he can have that experience going into next year.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Ive got a friend flying down to texas to watch the skins-girls game, hes sporting skins stuff all the way, Ill be interested to hear his stories, but at seaworld you should be alright, but its always good to hear skins fans showing off their colors in texas.

Posted by: SAK | November 2, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Cripes!

I thought this would draw more comments than it did-

"There's your shoulder pad, put it underneath my shoulder pad," Bugel said. "Don't play with your big fat belly and your soft breast; play with your shoulder pad. That's run blocking."

Maybe our problem isn't that the offensive line is injured, it's that they're using their soft breasts too much.

This weekend presents me with two credo possibilities-

1) "Cripes! Hit Yoder!"
or
2) "Put it Underneath His Shoulder Pad, Pooch!"

sounds like this blog will probably have another rage-filled week unless the redskins put up 40+.

nobody panic.

Posted by: dwdjmu | November 2, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

My mother told me not to pull my hammy so much or i'd get hairy palms.

Posted by: shuttledik | November 2, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Captain Obvious is officially employed by the Redskins. And people wonder why we prefer to read Jasno's stuff.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=30931

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

This just in from Redskins.com....

The 4 keys to the Jets game:

c. Arrive at the correct stadium.
!. Do NOT play in flip-flops (see Green Bay game debacle).
2. Remember to come back out after half-time nap.
9. Score more points than the other guys - that's important!

Film at 11.

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

So, apropos of nothing, which 'Mike H.' do we think was the original? LiberalMike, BigotMike, or mhaslup? Or none of the above?

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Registration is a huge debacle. My head hurts.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

mhaslup has claimed to be the original... but given that none of us have our Johnny Mnemonic head chip devices installed yet, I can't be sure...

Posted by: shuttledik | November 2, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

What? You didn't get your headchip installed yet?

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh c;mon bigfish! it's been two days and not a peep from the troll.

The stompin' boots are in my home closet.

And the tendinitis on my scroll finger is going away.

All good, I say.

Posted by: shuttledik | November 2, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

No, they were givin' those out??

I was gonna git one. In orange. I love orange.

I was hoping I could get a widget in mine that made every add-on chip taste like orange or mojito depending on whether it was work related or porn related.

Posted by: shuttledik | November 2, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

McCardell would be a big upgrade at #3 WR. I wish he had been in there last week to bail Campbell out.

Posted by: drischord | November 2, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

There have been some trolls just not as many. One of them has managed to chase Nate away again and we have 4 Mike H's.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

There's a little bit of Nate that we all keep in our hearts though.

I've been chatting with him the last few days, and I think he shall return, in time.

Work-related or porn-related? For bangbros there was no distinction to make!

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

It's my understanding that the Skins brought in a "hamstring specialist" - seriously.

Posted by: Lisa | November 2, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

LMGO Redcoat. Man what happened to that kat?

Posted by: jm220 | November 2, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

LMGO Redcoat. Man what happened to that kat?

Posted by: jm220 | November 2, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

RE: Trolls

You know, seriously! What is their point? In some political blogs I lurk and sometimes post in, there is always some guy who wants to put a turd in the punchbowl, but that's politics. These are like people that, I don't know, it's like a sophisticated version of making a crank call. How do they get their jollies stealing some one elses identity like that?

Posted by: johndinhouston | November 2, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

1st to go double move. lol

Posted by: jm220 | November 2, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

McCardell would be a big upgrade at #3 WR. I wish he had been in there last week to bail Campbell out.

Posted by: drischord | November 2, 2007 03:34 PM

Pretty sure KMC would not have stopped the multiple fumbles and being asked to run 3 yard outs on 3rd and 8 wouldn't have mattered either. Its great and all they are being persistent with wanting to run the ball but the running game fell apart when Randy Thomas went down. Man do I miss watching Portis grabbing on his jersey following on the outside. Fabini is just flat out terrible. Gibbs and Saunders better have a good game plan this week or I am likely to kick in my tv.

Posted by: cdubb | November 2, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Well, if you do talk to Nate - tell him ta c'mon bak now, heah?

Honestly, I don't care who you post as if your post is good.

RC, are you working for Bangbros? One of my Vulcan sisters works for them. We're possibly going to have them for a sponsor at our Scooter Rally in February (though I'm not too sure the gf, Bootz the Cowgoilz fan, will approve!! lol)

Posted by: shuttledik | November 2, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Oh - nevermind. lol.

Posted by: shuttledik | November 2, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I think it sucks that Nate let some damn fool get the best of him. I have tired and tried to understand why would someone want to try and get him riled up like that. He's one of the cooler bloggers, IMO. I was glad to hear he will be making a return soon. Usually I don't condone snitching, my motto is simply get even. I guess its not in his personality to stoop to that level. I applaude him. I feel he is letting the person have the "one up" on him. Never let em' see you flinch. Never

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

So, apropos of nothing, which 'Mike H.' do we think was the original? LiberalMike, BigotMike, or mhaslup? Or none of the above?

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 03:25 PM

If the four of them would start going after each other again, they could get us to 120,000 while the rest of us watch.

Redcoat, following our discussion yesterday of the advantage of a British accent in US of A, is there a comparable advantage of an Amurican accent in London? Or do they just think "Stupid Yank"?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 2, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is skippy and i have a mental plate in my head. Today after lesson time was over i went to see my friends at redshins park.

A mean man called Joe Buggle was shouting at some nice fat men to "stop pushing with their breasts". Then he told them to "push on his soldier pads" instead. The fat men seemed very confused but mean mr bubble just kept shouting and pushing them until they were all crying.

Mr Jason Camel was throwing the ball at some little men called 'sultanas' but they could not catch it so he had to go and get them himself because he had run out.

There was a strange man called 'sure if gonna getyer' wearing a helloween costume who kept running around in circles. Sometimes he ran into the nice fat men and that made them cry again. skippy was not happy to see this as he likes the nice fat men.

On one side of the grass a man called 'dub-gee' was shouting something about 'lust for mayhens' at some boys and told the boys that he would 'feed them to bill bellyquick if they did not hit someone soon'. so the boys hit the nice fat men and the fat men cried again.

when the bus driver came to take me back to the home i said i hope the nice fat men stop crying soon, but if they don't they can have my teddy, his name is brewski.

fondly,
skippy

Posted by: skippy | November 2, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Now isn't this just too precious for words? A bunch of stupid SKINNIES FANS sitting around feeling sorry for theirselves because they don't have any offense and suddenly they don't have any defense. BOOO HOOO HOOOO. And, even worst, your stupid scribe, JASNO THE IPOD GUY, hates you and hates your team. BOOO HOOO HOOOO HOOOOOOO HOOOOO HOOOOOOO. And you can't even figure out how to fix the blog so that only your fellow KOOL AID DRINKERS can write and tell you how everything is really allright.

Why don't you all wise up and move to Dallas where we real people are and where we have a real team that will put your bunch of SAD SACK CRY BABIES down good?????

WAAAAAAAAWAAAAAAAAWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: troll | November 2, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

t_e, there is absolutely an advantage to having an American accent in the UK, although sadly there are also ugly, xenophobic Brits too.

When Mrs Redcoat 2.0 lived in the UK, she found her accent to be helpful mostly, and only sometimes a disadvantage.

Speaking personally, I enjoy hearing the regional variations here, there seem to be fewer than there are in the UK, but I think as much as anything that is because my ear still isn't properly attuned to the subtle differences.

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

You know i'm about tired of hearing this person it questionable or doubtful or whtaever because of a hamstring or groin etc., this is part of this teams problem to damned soft! And another quote/saying i'm tired of hearing up here every game is tough... what's up here??? games up here wouldn't be tough or close every week if we had the mindset that New England had against us last week! It's ok to try and sit on a lead if it's in the 4th qtr and the game has been decided, but let's not start trying to eat up time right after halftime...

Posted by: skynz3 | November 2, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

* Fantasy Footbal related post *

I can't remember if Zebra has made it back onto the blog, but good luck for our mtachup this weekend. I'd be in okay shape in the league if JM220 actually had any Redskins players in his team last week!

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

I was had the pleasure of being on the inter-coastal waterway in Louisiana more than a few years ago. The water was quite high, in a swampy area, at night. The tugboats pushing barges had tied up to the trees next to what we assumed was the edge of the waterway. One of the captains was kind of enough to let us tie up to his boat so that we would not get lost in the swamp. I think if the water had been at a normal level, we would have been able to navigate the water way successfully.

One of the crewman on the tugboat took us on a tour of his boat. He was a cajun, was very gracious, and was patient with his explanations. All we could do was nod and say thanks. We could understand very little of his version of cajun English. Just imagine if we were trying to talk to someone from Maine.

Posted by: Markin21132 | November 2, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Mike Sellers doesn't even stretch and you never hear about him pulling a muscle.

Posted by: frankg | November 2, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Stupid Troll, if life is so great in Dallas (not that I believe for one second you live there) and we are a sad bunch of peeps, then why in heck are you spending your time posting (not to mention taking the time to register) on a Skins blog? That is what I call BEYOND SAD.

Posted by: Lisa | November 2, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances that this "troll" actually lives anywhere near Dallas? My guess is about zero.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I know what you mean Mark. I used to have similar problems in some parts of Britain. I'll grant you though that Cajun with its pidgin French content is almost impossible for me to understand!

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

How would you know if Mike Sellers stretches or not? He's a football player. My bet is that he does stretch.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I've spent plenty of time in Dallas. If I had to live there I'd be on ANY blog I could find to dull the pain....

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

HEY HEY HEY. I heard that!

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Present company accepted of course....

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't live IN Dallas though so that's okay.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

That troll isn't "the" troll that always comes on here. He called Jason a "scribe". No way boofer uses that word. That's a reg trying to get pepes fired up.

Posted by: SeanTizzy2DaHizzy | November 2, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Or even 'excepted'. maushdup's baleful influence lives on.....

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Not in Plano I hope 'fish?

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Nope but my wife's cousin lives in Plano. I live in Grand Prairie but right on the border of Mansfield (Hometown of Kelly Clarkson). It's pretty much right in between Dallas and Ft. Worth.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

A company I worked for a few years ago was HQd in Dallas, but also had a big office in Plano (we bought a bit of TI) so I spent several weeks at a time down there during corporate planning season.

At weekends they would bus us out to Billy-Bob's if we'd been good, otherwise it was drink yourself silly time at the Dallas hotel bar!!

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

So I had friends who lived in Plano, but none of them liked it very much. The typical opinion was "too much like Stepford".

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Ah Billy Bobs, Stockyards, Cowtown Coliseum. You can find a full set of teeth in there on a crowded Saturday night. j/k. I've been there a few times. All around nice crowd of people. When I do go out which is rarely I tend to stick around Arlington close to the Ballpark or around the corner at the marina. Dallas is good during the day but I'm too old to hang out with those hoodlums after dark.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Last time I was in Dallas we spent a few nights in Deep Ellum (trade show, so 'entertaining customers' of course). It's pretty rough out there at night!

We even saw a minivan get flipped onto it's roof when it blew through a red light and hit the taxi in front of us.

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I have only had one good trip to Dallas. Back when our company allowed vendors to spend money on us, I went with my boss to visit a vendor in Dallas. The vendor's sales contingent to took us to dinner at the Inn at Turtle Creek. It was very nice.

Posted by: Markin21132 | November 2, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

They have been working on cleaning up that area for a couple years now but you still occasionally hear about someone getting shot after a bar scuffle there. The only parts of Dallas that I've really explored are Addison, Fair Park, American Airlines Arena and The Galleria. I've been meaning to go check out where Kennedy was shot for a couple years now but just haven't gotten around to it. My wife works in Irving so I'm out there a bit also. Right next to that sh$%hole stadium that the Girls play in. That thing looks like crap but the new one is coming along quickly and looking quite nice.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain the attraction of 'Coyote Ugly' to me? I had to go there a couple of times with a client, but the second visit cured him.

One of the girls made him lean against the bar, then she pulled his shirt up and his pants down and beat the crap out of him with something (I was too drunk to remember what). The guy was crushed...

I don't get it.

Posted by: Redcoat | November 2, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Don't know. Never been there. Sadomasochism? (sp?)

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I think I just flogged the blog.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

bigfish--

It's not you. It's us. It's 5:30 on a Friday afternoon where we live. Here in DC even the lawyers who bill by the hour have left their offices by now. So, you can imagine where the bloggers are? Probably looking for Coyote Ugly to get whipped by a tough cowgirl. I think I'm heading there now myself. (Actually I'm going home to cook supper for the wife and kids).

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 2, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

fish?

You there? Or are you headed to Coyote Ugly so you can give us a first-hand report on Monday, assuming you survive the experience?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 2, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm here. No cotoye ugly for me but I do have a pack of coyotes close to my house that come out and howl every night. I never really got into those type of places like CU, Hooters, Strip Clubs, stuff like that. I always enjoyed the hands on experience more than watching someone who you can't touch. SJK?

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm in between jobs right now myself and my wife is an Accountant for one of our major defense contractors and they're going through accruals right now so she's working late. That's why I've been BMGO lately.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

++++Or...dare I say it...more plays for Brandon Lloyd? .... he might be useful, if for nothing else than sending him on a go route on every play just to take a defender with him.

Posted by: LiberalMike | November 2, 2007 02:25 PM++++

Better yet, send him up to the snack bar for Cheese Doodles and Beer. There's a relatively decent chance he'll make it back onto the field without dropping the food and odds are no Jet fan would try to hurt him.

Posted by: corkczar | November 2, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

"It seems obvious start Jason Campbell, but it's still pretty clear that the Redskins don't want to throw unless they have to. Note that in three losses, Campbell attempted over 34 passes, which signals that the Skins were behind and needed his arm. He didn't top 29 attempts in any of their four wins. With the Jets' run defense an easy target, expect Clinton Portis to see right around 20 touches, which is the most he's seen in any game this season. The Jets have allowed over 100 rush yards to one player in four of their last six (Marshawn Lynch whiffed twice), so Portis should do fine. The Jets will start Kellen Clemens this week, and he has a good arm but might be without his best receiver, Laveranues Coles. If there's a Jet to start, it's Jerricho Cotchery, even though he'll be covered by Shawn Springs, the Redskins' best (active) cornerback."

http://deffl-2.football.sportsline.com/news/10448035

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

There's a relatively decent chance he'll make it back onto the field without dropping the food and odds are no Jet fan would try to hurt him.

Posted by: corkczar | November 2, 2007 06:32 PM

Sounds good, but do you think he can catch the food when they hand it to him? I say it gets intercepted by the guy standing behind him and that he makes not the least effort to get it back.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 2, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or is it time to FIRE BUBBA TYER!!!(again)

Old School doesn't fly with medicine!

Collision and impact injuries are one thing but this amount of hammy, groin, cramps, etc. are inexcusable!

Posted by: filmchis | November 2, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

No need to worry people. We have it in our plans to hire Richard Simmons as the new trainer. He's super smart and he trains his guts out. Plus Vinny has a great relationship with him already. Richard will do a great job up here.

Posted by: joe_gibbs | November 2, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

joe_gibbs

Ah!!!! Ah!!!!!!

That does not work man.

We need redskin football. And and end to reg.

Give us our blog back.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mul | November 2, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm here. No cotoye ugly for me but I do have a pack of coyotes close to my house that come out and howl every night. I never really got into those type of places like CU, Hooters, Strip Clubs, stuff like that. I always enjoyed the hands on experience more than watching someone who you can't touch. SJK?

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 05:42 PM

Hooters is OK, but I prefer Ker's Winghouse. Just went there for lunch on Wed. all the young ladies dress up for H-ween. We have a Mugs 'n Jugs down here a Hooters like knock off. Went to a strip club ealier this year for a friend's b-party (I was the d-driver). The girls were soooo annoying. One of them just basically aksed why don't you give me some money, while I'm sitting there drinking my $7 bottle of water. I said "Why are you going to b*** me?" The guys were LTGO and she sent the bouncer my way. Biatch! So I'm with you on the strip clubs, I'd rather play the game than be a fan and watch.

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 2, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

tampa, We have a Ker's here in Arlington, TX. Didn't realize it was that type of joint though but I may have to check it out. How's the food?

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I likr their food better than Hooters and the staff is friend;ier too

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 2, 2007 8:49 PM | Report abuse

I'll try to visit the one here in the DFDub soon and I'll let you know how it turns out. I guess I'll wait to wear my Skin jersy there until I see what it's like.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Do us all a favor next time Gilbert and predict a loss. This is unbearable.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 9:06 PM | Report abuse

FYI, Ker is a former Dallas Cowboy

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 2, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

noone,

Heading to Tampa Sunday morning. Have to rent a car and drive to Tarpon Springs. Do you recommend staying near the airport or driving to Tarpon to see the game?

Posted by: squashmo | November 2, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the heads up tampa. Guess I'll go there on a weeknight.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Where are you watching?

Posted by: squashmo | November 2, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Cripes!

Dickie Simmons?

Posted by: dwdjmu | November 2, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

From Len "Pass-the-Pork-Belly" Pasquarelli

Prediction Patriots 41, Colts 41

There hasn't been a tie game in the NFL since Nov. 10, 2002, when Pittsburgh and Atlanta played to a 34-34 stalemate. So the league is certainly overdue for one. Both offenses will go up and down the field for four quarters before the defenses figure things out in the extra stanza. And then the Colts and Patriots can do this all over again in the AFC Championship Game, with even more hype, if possible, than this time.

Get Down from there Len, your going to brake the Fence!

I have a hard time believe these team would shut each other out for entire Overtime!

Posted by: filmchis | November 2, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Len is on crack.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I guess Len has been hanging out in the Reid household.

Posted by: CBT | November 2, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JustMe | November 2, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow, did Mr. Snyder catch JLC's blog from a few months ago?

http://mvn.com/nfl-redskins/2007/11/01/daniel-snyder-soccer-dad/

Posted by: JustMe | November 2, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

JustMe, That first article explains a lot about our offebsive struggles this year. Too bad some writer can see it and our coaches can't. All I can say is Ugh.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

It sure does, bigfish. The results of the Gibbs/Saunders marriage have been nothing short of craptastic. Ugh.

It'll be interesting to see if they've had some sort of epiphany regarding the offense come Sunday. I'm not expecting it. But, it'll be interesting to see what they look like.

Posted by: JustMe | November 2, 2007 10:02 PM | Report abuse

hello everyone!
Each week I check Redskins.com to see what is posted new.

is it just me?
But this week, I could not bare to even look.
I finally watched the Great Moments week 8!

I'm still hurting from Sunday.
Not the loss... I actually predicted a loss on the blog... last Sunday I think I predicted 31-13; something like that.
But the thumping they took still has me down about this team!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | November 2, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Given that Gibbs is a HOF head coach and Saunders is a proven offensive genius I'm not expecting it either. Let's hope the D and luck of the O can keep us alive long enough until they get it figured out.

It's been a while but 2005 Steelers!!!

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Move on Ray. Please move on. We can't continue to dwell on that loss.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Can someone help me to understand what the point of the NFLHD channel is when almost none of the NFL Network's programming is available in hi def?

Posted by: JustMe | November 2, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching the craptastic Wizards vs the Celtics in HiDef but I've never had any problems with the NFLN's HiDef myself. I'm on DirecTV just in case.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Wow... Dude kinda skewered Emmitt.

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/story/289092.html

Posted by: JustMe | November 2, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

noone,

Heading to Tampa Sunday morning. Have to rent a car and drive to Tarpon Springs. Do you recommend staying near the airport or driving to Tarpon to see the game?

Posted by: squashmo | November 2, 2007 09:12 PM

At one time or another these were places (see below) to see Redskins games. I have not been there in a number of years since I got the Sunday Ticket. Champion's is just south of the airpory about 1 mile.

Tarpon Springs has great Greek food (Hellas is nice). The Bucs game is also at 1pm so you might get your butt kicked if you walk into any old sports bar and want to watch the Skins game.

Beef O'Brady's
15784 N. Dale Mabry
Tampa
813-969-4647

Elmer's
2003 E. Seventh Ave.
Ybor City;
813-248-5855

Champion's Sports Bar,
Marriott Tampa Westshore
1001 N West Shore Blvd
Tampa
813-287-2555

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 2, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Ray, the only "bad" thing about the Pats game is that St.Joe is too nice to tell Williams to blitz Brady with Area 51 and not worry about any penalties.

After that 4&2 play, I was screaming for someone to man up on the "D" and explain the rules to Belacheat

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 2, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Emmitt deserves it. He's horrible. I'd pay to watch Michael Irving over Emmitt any day.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

You guys remember this idiot?
I really wish the police would have come out and removed him physically.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGZUKHtW7vg


I still laugh [though I know I should not] as he approaches the pitcher's mound.

We won't have to worry about Coach Joe going after a Ref like this or throwing his red flag him! :)

Imagine him pulling up a pylon and throwing it at a ref??
Hilarious!

I love Coach Joe; just so disappointed that's all.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | November 2, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

I just pulled a hammy reading that...

Posted by: Dorf | November 2, 2007 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Emmitt is painful
MPP maybe him or Keyshawn or Chris Berman
I'm a FOX pregame fan myself. Love Frank Caliendo most of the time.

Posted by: rbd202 | November 2, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

How's this, Tuesday is a public holiday here, Melbourne Cup Day, so I organise to have the Monday off and get a four day weekend. Great, I get to watch the Skins yeah? Nope. Not on. Oh well at least I get to see the Colts destroy Belichick's dream. Nope, not on. So which games do I get to see?
Cleveland - Seattle
Tampa Bay - Arizona

Oh joy.

I think I might give work a call and go in afterall!

Posted by: kost52 | November 3, 2007 2:37 AM | Report abuse

kost--

To anyone other than a 'Skins or Jets fan, either of the two games you named is probably more interesting. Buy how can you overlook Colts-Pats? Why, whoever would do that would rather drink a Fosters than a Gippsland Gold. Or, would rather watch cricket than Aussie rules.

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy" -- Benjamin Franklin

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 3, 2007 7:00 AM | Report abuse

noone,

Thanks for the info on sports bars. I may watch in a Tampa bar just so I can wear my Skins gear and remind them of our last playoff win.

cosmofla

Posted by: squashmo | November 3, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

From yesterday:

Mike Sellers doesn't even stretch and you never hear about him pulling a muscle.

Posted by: frankg | November 2, 2007 04:33 PM


How would you know if Mike Sellers stretches or not? He's a football player. My bet is that he does stretch.

Posted by: bigfish | November 2, 2007 04:39 PM


Comcast sportsnet did a segment about Mike Sellers leading up to a game and he did not stretch before the game. They asked him about it and he said he does not stretch before the game. Obviously he did warm up though.

Didn't seem like he was kidding when he said he doesn't stretch before the game.

Posted by: frankg | November 3, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Only thing I know is that Vrabel abused Sellers repeatedly.

God I hope he has a better game in the swamplands.

Posted by: gdennie | November 3, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Who the hell is Jason La Canfora? Is he some Canuck hockey coach or something?

And what the hell is wrong with you people? The fans these days blame the coach when the players drop passes, fumble the ball, miss tackles. Players miss entire seasons with "turf toe", pulled hammys, and groin strains?

Back in the days of Griffith Stadium and RFK we cheered our team and they played hard through injuries and losses. I remember Dave Butz finishing a game out at nose guard with a broken leg. I remember Joe Jacoby in back traction all week and coming out to play on Sunday. i remember not wanting to watch every time they handed Larry Brown #43 when he played with 2 bad knees. I remember Ron McDoles courage playing through injuries.

What coach has done more for the Redskins than Joe Gibbs? The players and the fans need to stop boo hooing, pick up their jock straps and play hard for the Redskins like we used to.

I remember Riggo out on the town with a leather WW1 flying ace leather cap on with US Rugby Team Capt. Eddie Mack until the wee hours in the morning and he didn't have any problem playing the next day.

What a bunch of panty waists...

Posted by: captjim | November 3, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Oregon just got jinxed.........

Posted by: RightWay | November 3, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Can someone help me to understand what the point of the NFLHD channel is when almost none of the NFL Network's programming is available in hi def?

Posted by: JustMe | November 2, 2007 10:11 PM

Probably just for the 8 or so games they show on that channel in Nov. and Dec.

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Posted by: captjim | November 3, 2007 11:40 AM

I am sure almost everyone agrees with you. The game is much different now than 20 years ago. Players care more about money and entertainment than they do about winning and team. Don't get me wrong, some do but I'd venture to say it is probably only about half.

Posted by: cdubb | November 3, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

NFL Replay and most new NFL Films episodes are in HD also. I think they might start broadcasting Total Access in HD...

Posted by: RightWay | November 3, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Why would Marcus Washington play as basically a 3rd down rush end against NE and make his injury worse so that he can't play this week? If you are not healthy enough to be full go then sit out so that we don't use him on 3rd downs only in a meaningless game. They should have saved him for the jets game. They sat Smoot why not do the same thing to Washington it's just insane

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | November 3, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

looks like registration and handle stealing have effectively killed this blog. that or lack of quality redskins reporting

Posted by: legendarymizzonk | November 3, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Blog is not dead just a typically slow Saturday.

Despite what some people think, the regulars do have lives outside of RI.

Posted by: CBT | November 3, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

To brighten up the blog I will share with you my flag football exploits.

My team won both our games in the round-robin tourney we had.

I scored two 2-point conversions and caught another pass for a crucial 1st down late in the game to preserve a win. Played really disruptive d on the line and managed a few sacks and tackles (flag grabs) behind the line of scrimmage.

I stretched.
I avoided spirits and beer the night before.
I wore my Redskins beanie cap for both games.

A good sign.

Posted by: Dorf | November 3, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

well that didn't help... I'm going to go eat pizza, drink pumpkin beer and watch Nacho Libre.

Adios amigos!

Posted by: Dorf | November 3, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

the sound of a dead blog

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 3, 2007 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Dorf, I watched Transformers. Awesome action flick

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 3, 2007 9:04 PM | Report abuse

More than meets the eye.

I was not crazy about the movie. But I loved the show.

They still have a really bad version on TV with low budget anamations.

(No blog don't die I won't let you die. Stay with meeeeeeeeeeeeee.)

Posted by: mul | November 3, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Trying to help save the blog, he said:

Borat's on HBO right now. Can't remember anything else like it. Brilliant.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 3, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

This is Natalya. She is my sister. She is number-four prostitute in whole of Kazakhstan.

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 3, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world, all other countries are run by little girls. Kazakhstan is number one exporter of potassium, Other Central Asian countries have inferior potassium.

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 3, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

So, I'm not the only one who enjoys Borat?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 3, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

High Five!

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 3, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Very funny movie

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 3, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I think it saved Pamela Anderson's career, no?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 3, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

The defensive game plan should be to play coverage and force the young QB to make the right throws. I would blitz once or twice early on to see if we could give him a case of happy feet.

Happy feet = more turnovers

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 3, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

This C.J. was like no Kazakh woman I have ever seen. She had golden hair, teeth as white as pearls, and the a**hole of a seven-year-old. For the first time in my lifes, I was in love.

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 3, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I want to make sexy time with her.

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 3, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

BC getting beat
Oregon won
Oklahoma won
And of course ABC is gushing over OSU again this season just like they did last year.
Let's see who is a good team OSU has beaten this year.....
......................................................................................
I tried but I can't come up with one yet.
Perhaps LSU, Oregon or Oklahoma will spank them like Florida did last year!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | November 3, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I think it is time for predictions for tomorrow.
How about two games only to keep it simple.
a. Skins vs. Jets
b. Pats @ Colts

Me?

Skins 19-10
Colts 27-26

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | November 3, 2007 10:38 PM | Report abuse

it's 12 o'clock and all is well

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | November 4, 2007 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Soon it will be 1 am. And then it will be 1 am again. And so much for plucky Boston College. There's one fewer Boston thing we have to hear about. Tomorrow, maybe another.

My favorite Boratisms..."romance explosion" and when he said prostitutes in neighboring country "hang loose like sleeve of wizard".

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 4, 2007 12:06 AM | Report abuse

A moment for Haiku:


What burns my ire

To fire Bubba Tyer?

Hammy, Cramps, and Groin!

Posted by: filmchis | November 4, 2007 2:05 AM | Report abuse

But Surely Tyer
is only a ham fixer
not a groin stretcher

Posted by: daggar | November 4, 2007 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Haiku/Sports Movie Trivia!


Rub some dirt on it

and get your ass in the game

I broke my dick coach.

Posted by: filmchis | November 4, 2007 4:21 AM | Report abuse

It's 7:06 PM on Sunday.
Here (japan); not there.
Being in the future is kind of cool.

Redskins win!

Posted by: _Stumped_ | November 4, 2007 6:04 AM | Report abuse

Redskins 34 Jets 14
Patriots 48 Colts 30

The Redskins should be able to run all over the Jets. Jets mistakes and turnovers will make the Skins job easier.

The Pats are easily the best team in the NFL this year and will prove it with authority over the Colts. Slack jaw Manning will get his casaba pounded like Rachel Raye kneads hamburger with her pudgy little digits.

Posted by: captjim | November 4, 2007 8:08 AM | Report abuse

I don't know. Boofer seems pretty coherent to me.

Pause, pause, pause, pause, pause, NOT

Posted by: CBT | November 1, 2007 04:13 PM

Love Borat, too. I made this Borat reference the other day and no one picked up on it.

Classic when Borat is at Criswell trying to get a car with the p magnet in it. Good stuff.

Posted by: CBT | November 4, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Redskins in a squeaker

'Skins 17
Jets 14

One turnover on our side of the field leads to one Jet score; a late turnover by them leds to the winning FG.

My confidence in this team isn't high enough to predict it any other way. Besides, under Gibbs 2.0, whenever their ego gets bruised, they don't bounce back with a roar; it's more like a sissy-girl slapfight.

Posted by: Soups1 | November 4, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Skins by 40! (Not a prediction but a prayer)

BTW, is daylight savings time finally over or is it 10:29 am over there?

Posted by: bangkokben | November 4, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

The time has changed here. It is 0925 here now. The NFL network and ESPN are in full swing with their pregame coverage. Not 1 mention of Skins Jets - it's all Pats Colts and Dallas Eagles

Posted by: captjim | November 4, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

The time is 9:33AM EST.

Posted by: Markin21132 | November 4, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Aye aye capt!

Perhaps the blog clock will forever reflect EDT as it is almost 10 months long.

I can get three hours of sleep before kick off.

Posted by: bangkokben | November 4, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

What is the over-under on the game? Less than 35?

Posted by: CBT | November 4, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Just tracked it down - 35.5 points.

It is the lowest of all the games this weekend. Seems about right to me.

Posted by: CBT | November 4, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Even the WPost online Sports section has very little on the Skins and their new big time columnist Wilbon is blah blah blah about Manning and Brady.

I remember when Wilbon was the brunt of the jokes by the big time WPost columnists Shirley, Kornheiser, Denlinger, et al.

This TP crap with Kornheiser and Wilbon is a complete joke. Kornheiser was a better columnist than he is a TV guy. Bring back THE BANDWAGON!!!

Posted by: captjim | November 4, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I'll take the over, easily. The Jets suck big time and they're gonna fold like Daley standing over a 6 foot downhill putt.

Posted by: captjim | November 4, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Jasno, inactives?

Posted by: CBT | November 4, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

beep beep!

Posted by: bigfish | November 4, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately "troll" is correct, and I'm a skins fan. Did you all not see the handwriting on the wall in the NE game. This is the best Joe Gibbs has to offer after 4 years. It's time for him to go. The only superstar on this team is Clinton Portis. Unfortunately he does not have an offensive line. He didn't when they all were healthy. They can barely open a hole 1 out of 10 times. And the receivers. Jason Campbell had plenty of time in games to look downfield but the skins receivers can't create ANY separation. He HAD to check down. Other teams throw deep just in hopes of getting a penalty but the skins can't take that chance because the receivers can't pull away from anyone. The luck is about to end for this team and we'll be left with what we've been left with almost EVERY year, 8-8, 7-9, 9-7, and and trip home for the holidays.

Posted by: keedrow | November 5, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I hate to even hear Joe Gibbs speak these days. I'de rather here Bill Parcells or John Madden who would give it to you straight if they were the coach of a sorry team. How in the hell can you have a feeling of "euphoria" after you've just escape beating a 1-8 team in overtime. Just unbelievable and turns my stomach. A win is a win won't wash during the second half of the season because they'll come few and far between.

Posted by: keedrow | November 5, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

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