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Washington, Perhaps Moving On

It was pretty tough to listen to linebacker Marcus Washington address the media a few minutes ago and not think he isn't on the way out, too. Washington was injured again for much of this season, and the Skins can save about $4 million against the cap by releasing him.

When asked about the offseason, and what it holds for him, Washington said: "Who knows? We definitely understand the business side of it. In the real world things don't always happen the way you want them to."

At several points, Washington spoke of his time here in the past tense. "I had a chance to play with some great guys here, including Sean Taylor," Washington said. "That's something I'll always remember."

Washington had hamstring, hip and other injuries this season, and said he will check with team doctors over the next few weeks, but requires no offseason surgery at this point. "Not that I know of," he said.

Washington is one of the better people you could encounter in this business. He radiates positivity and did everything possible in terms of charity and community relations work. He was always available to the media and he played football as hard as he could, and with as much joy as possible, even when his injuries were mounting.

Washington said he definitely wants to continue playing, and will be around Redskins Park for a few weeks before returning home to Auburn to spend some time there with family.

By Jason La Canfora  |  December 29, 2008; 11:55 AM ET
 
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Let me be the FIRST to say I'll miss #53.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 29, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Bye Marcus. Thanks for your years here...

Keep Springs and trade Rogers?

um, why?

We'd get a 3rd for Rogers and then what? We wouldn't get a corner as good as him, and we'd be giving up a young talent... and without Springs and Rogers we turn a strength into a weekness.

KEEP HALL AND ROGERS!!!! SIGN THEM BOTH!!!!

Springs and Smoot can go if they want. Trade Smoot if it has to be anyone.

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 29, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, it is time to rebuild some areas, and we need picks. Next year should not be much better in terms of record, especially if we are getting some young guys into the lineup.

We have between the 12th and 16th pick in the draft, if we can get picks from player trades i say we keep that pick and try to get a special player.

If Los or others dont get us pick, trade out and stock the lines...

Posted by: Zeebs | December 29, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Won'r be missed. Glad to see the dude go ! Did anyone know his wife was white ? I wonder did that play a role in this.

Posted by: Daggarforracialjustice | December 29, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

This would be one of the biggest mistakes this FO could make. It would be nearly unforgivable.

As far as "big plays" go:

Laron Landry - 2 INTs
Shawn Springs - 1 INT
Fred Smoot - 1 INT
Carlos Rogers - 2 INTs


Only an FO this stupid would contemplate ridding themselves of Carlos Rogers.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | December 29, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Ryp...Smoot has little or no trade value and there is no way we could sign both DHall and Rogers to the big $$ deals they'd want & entertain thoughts of Peppers, Suggs, etc...shopping Rogers (who is 2 years older than DHall) would get us more in return

Posted by: forever21 | December 29, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

If we get rid of Rogers and he does well for another team, which he undoubtably will THEN would vinny be fired? Hard not to.

We are looking at this all wrong.

Trade Rogers for an Unemployed Vinny!!!!!!!

Posted by: NFeKPo | December 29, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm beginning to hate this team...Rogers showed GREAT improvement...it would be a mistake to let him go...especially since Hall has shown he can be beat deep. More than once.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 29, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Zeebs, believe we currently got 13th pick...

Posted by: forever21 | December 29, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

This would be a stupid move. Have they not learn from the last two season that they can't count on Springs? Very stupid move if they let him go.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 29, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Rypien11, why get rid of Rogers now? He's under contract. You can't count on Springs being healthy, and Smoot isn't a starter. Keep them both unless Cerrato gets hired by another team and offers a first and second for him. That's the only way they could trade him for any value.

Posted by: Snydersucks | December 29, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Now what were you guys saying?

You've moved the goalposts.

Your original assertion was that Betts was not a solid #2 Back. You even listed your priorities for a #2 back to be "provide as good or slightly less production than the #1."

When countered with the facts that Betts does fill this role you describe, your retort was "He's not as good as Michael Turner!" (We call this moving the Goalposts)

No one with a brain thinks that Betts is better or even as good as Michael turner. But that doesn't really matter. The question is: is Betts a good #2?

The facts say "Yes," you say "No."

So, I'm sorry, but *you* were saying....?

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 29, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again with another backward azz move, Hall gives way too much cushion and is a poor tackler(Deion Sanders) we are going to give Hall huge dollars and shun Rogers after he worked his way back from a what could have been a career ending injury can anyone say Ryan Clark!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | December 29, 2008 11:58 AM

I would take a Dion Sanders like player in his prime...

Not to be confused with a Dion Sanders like looking for gobs of money and out of his prime like the actual Dion Sanders we got.......

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 29, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Forever, i just looked at the nfl.com standings. didnt do all the tie breaking stuff to figure it out. and couldnt find a listing of where we stood... but 13th is better than 16th ;) tghansk

Posted by: Zeebs | December 29, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Comparing Betts to Michael Turner is stupid.

Betts has done NOTHING to show he is capable of starting.

PERIOD.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 29, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Truth said it earlier. We have a really good defensive backfield. Try to sign them all. They can only do so much, when you do not put any pressure on the QB.

Draft Terrance Cody and put Montgomery in the weight room in the off season and you would have a beefy athletic interior line. Rotate Golston and Alexander in.

Sign Suggs, keep Evans at DE and rotate Wilson, Jackson at the other. You would have a young line that could grow together.

It would take 3-4 bodies to contain Cody and Montgomery. Put Springs at FS and bring Landry to blitz.

Posted by: oldtimer4 | December 29, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

"Beantown, stats are not the end all and be all because they don't always tell the story. Film tells the story"

Line of the day.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

BTW, if there was a choice that had to be made between Rogers and Hall, I'd take Rogers 7 days a week, and twice on Sunday.

I'd like to keep both, but Rogers is a better corner.

Anybody else notice Hall's easily missed tackle on 3rd down to set up 1st and goal yesterday? Never see that from Rogers....

Posted by: psps23 | December 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

if we could do this: Springs at FS and bring Landry to blitz with a front 4 that could get pressure on the QB i would be so happy i would weep

Posted by: NFeKPo | December 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse


This would be one of the biggest mistakes this FO could make. It would be nearly unforgivable.

As far as "big plays" go:

Laron Landry - 2 INTs
Shawn Springs - 1 INT
Fred Smoot - 1 INT
Carlos Rogers - 2 INTs


Only an FO this stupid would contemplate ridding themselves of Carlos Rogers.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23

Damn can't believe I agree with you but I do. Once again let Springs walk two years of out of most games and a year older.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

zeebs, I looked it up on wikipedia and we are 13th based on strength of schedule...

Posted by: forever21 | December 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

BTW - I'm loving watching the Cowboys fall apart.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Daggar,

Keep your racial crap to yourself. White, black, green, or orange doesn't matter.

Posted by: Snydersucks | December 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

lets bring in one of those fired coaches to help out Zorn

Posted by: cocodc1 | December 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Betts has done NOTHING to show he is capable of starting.

PERIOD.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 29, 2008 12:08 PM

Yeah, that 1100 yards in 2006 wasn't impressive at all...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Comparing Betts to Michael Turner is stupid.

I agree, it was a desperate ploy by someone who was losing an argument.

Betts has done NOTHING to show he is capable of starting.

Were you in a Coma in 2006 or something?

Never see that from Rogers....

Rogers has never missed a tackle? Are you being sarcastic?

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Balack Pajama!

by Dag-R-fur-rachel-just-dis

Posted by: Predator48 | December 29, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

So long Marcus. I'll remember 2005 fondly, when you were at your best.

Posted by: Predator48 | December 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"Beantown, stats are not the end all and be all because they don't always tell the story. Film tells the story"

Line of the day.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:11 PM

You do recognize that all stats are not created equally. Curious how you left off the remainder of the post that extrapolated on the line of the day.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"Rogers has never missed a tackle? Are you being sarcastic?

Posted by: VTDuffman"

When was the last time you've seen a missed tackle from Rogers? Seriously. Can you give me a distinct moment?

Never is obviously hyperbolic, but I'd be willing to bet there is not one NFL scout, NFL player, or coach that thinks Carlos Rogers is a poor tackling CB.

Posted by: psps23 | December 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that 1100 yards in 2006 wasn't impressive at all...

Seeing that we're approaching the 2009 season and all..I'm not willing to invest too much stock into 2 seasons ago...especially since he's done nothing in the 2 since. Besides alot of RB's have gotten 1,100 ONCE.

Hall was completely undressed by Jackson TWICE...too bad he can't catch. LOL

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else notice Hall's easily missed tackle on 3rd down to set up 1st and goal yesterday? Never see that from Rogers....

Posted by: psps23 | December 29, 2008 12:11 PM

Yeah, I noticed that. But I wouldn't point to that as being the sole reason they scored. It was a 10+ play drive. Alot of folks had the opportunity to stop them.

Did you noticed the play he DID stop someone on thrid down with a hard hit (2nd or 3rd QTR)? Stop them inches short.....

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 29, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

people act like other teams want our players. you don't think teams know that we're looking to sell? vinny has done an excellent job of overvaluing talent and shelling out too much for it (i.e., jason taylor) so i'm sure if we could trade anyone (and I doubt we can), we'll get squat for them. all hail the best season for the skins! the offseason! this is when the skins truly shine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dadanimal | December 29, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

lh, betts never hit free agency, so you can 'extrapolate' all you want as to WHY, but it never happened. So comparing what Turner did when he hit Free Agency to what Betts did, is 2 different issues.

"Film tells the story".....Mike Mamula called, he's looking to make a comeback....you've seen him on film right??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that 1100 yards in 2006 wasn't impressive at all...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 29, 2008 12:18 PM

Maybe you will answer. If it was so impressive, why didn't he use it as a springboard to start elsewhere for more money than what the Skins offered?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

beep beep....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

This is from the "other" paper's blog. JC is saying that some major changes could be ahead...

Campbell: "Shocking" changes possible

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Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell just did a wrap-up press conference here at the Park and he dropped a little bit of a bombshell when asked what kind of moves the team might make in the off-season.

"I’m pretty sure there will be some dramatic changes and some may even be shocking," he said. "We all have to be prepared for that."

Asked what he meant by "shocking," Campbell said: "Just personnel wise. There are probably going to be some shocking moves this offseason. They come every off season. Everybody understands that whartever we’re doing, it’s trying to improve the team."

On the 8-8 record, Campbell said: "It was our first year in this offense and to finish 8-8 is not acceptable and it’s under our standards and it’s not something we’ll by no means accept. … We didn’t win the games we should have won down the stretch and that’s something we have to look back at and see what went wrong and what happened. I’m pretty sure injuries played a lot do with it and the long training camp and the long preseason. We have to find a way to win the games we’re supposed to win if we’re ever going to be an elite team in this league."

Posted by: FloresFan | December 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Seeing that we're approaching the 2009 season and all..I'm not willing to invest too much stock into 2 seasons ago...especially since he's done nothing in the 2 since. Besides alot of RB's have gotten 1,100 ONCE.

Hall was completely undressed by Jackson TWICE...too bad he can't catch. LOL

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 29, 2008 12:23 PM

It's hard to rush for 1100 yards from the bench. Just because the Skins coaching staff doesn't have the smarts to play Betts more (if for no other reason than to keep CP off life support in December) doesn't mean that Betts can't play. I believe he could've had a smaller scale Michael Turner-type impact on a team that needed a RB a couple years ago. He's 29, but he's got low mileage from being a backup his whole career.

As for Hall: he's been beaten a few times because he's a CB that gambles for picks. So he'll make a few nice plays but he'll also get beaten on occasion. So you take the good with the bad and overall you've got a playmaker on a defense that doesn't make many big plays. I don't think you can ignore the fact that Hall has more picks THIS YEAR than Rogers has HIS WHOLE CAREER.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 29, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Film tells the story".....Mike Mamula called, he's looking to make a comeback....you've seen him on film right??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:26

Nice reach. Betts was judged on NFL film.
Are you saying no conclusion can be drawn from a player (who was coming off of his best season and who you said could be starter in the NFL) foregoing an opportunity to test FA and getting a shot to start and instead signing for relatively small money with the overpaying Skins to be a back up? Do you know more than Gibbs who played Betts sparingly last year?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 29, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dboog | December 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

You can't argue who is a better corner because one has more interceptions than the other. How many interceptions did the Skins convert to touchdowns this season? Batted balls or tackles would probably be a better measureing stat.

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | December 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Funny how everyone wants more draft picks. But what have the Skins done in the past years to warrant getting more draft picks?

And NFL really does not have trades anymore. So the chance of Rogers being traded is pretty nil. Teams will just wait for players to be cut, etc. and then pick them up without having to give up anything.

Did find it funny that Evans overtook Jason Taylor at the end position. How does that happen to a guy who was very recently a MVP of the NFL?

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Trading for extra picks after a season like this is always great fantasy material, but you rarely get good value for the one you trade, unless you are trading an over the hill vet to the Redskins, then you always get a great deal. Rogers has improved greatly, and has improved his hands, albeit a bit too slowly for my liking. I think with Hall to push him, those hands may get even better.

Posted by: kenboy1 | December 29, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Listen, Betts has done everything asked of him. The one time he was called upon to be the number one back for a long stretch of games, he did great. You cannot blame him for playing behind an iron man like Portis. Plus, imo, Betts is a superior pass catcher and would be in more often in passing situations if Portis wasn't such an animal at passblocking.

Posted by: kenboy1 | December 29, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey,hope you come back healthy Marcus but if it's not to be,I hope you get to play some place else until you're ready to pack it in and become a coach,hopefully in DC !!
All the best
Phil

Posted by: philtvc65 | December 29, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Lets be honest the main problem is Cerrato and his horrible personnel management and acquisitions.
We have a whole bunch of average players.
Betts = guaranteed fumble at inopportune time
Carlos = dropitis
Dline = no sacks
Oline = can't stop anyone
JC = ~150yd passing max per game
LB = slow, injury prone, small
Peter King was right we are like an expansion team.

Posted by: lovemyskins | December 29, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Looking at thehogs.net 1-Taylor, 2-Springs, 3-Washington, and 4-Griffin were the biggest cap hits for the team. None of them could be confused with the best players on the team. Griffin, not long ago, was the only pro-bowler on the team. But his stats have been declining. 70 to 27 tackles. 6 to 1 sacks. Actually I think the same year Washington made it as an alternate to the pro-bowl. But his stats are down as well, 107 to 44 total tackles. 87 to 25 solo tackles. No sacks either. Washington seems worse despite his bigger salary. Built possibly like Champ Bailey but seems to have lost his speed or intensity. Could be the injuries or maybe standing next to London Fletcher it just looks that way. Still the top 4 salaries...

Rodgers compares nicely with Hall to me. I think Rodgers is harder working with closer coverage and better tackling. What more can you say! But Hall makes the picks. He could also be a good option as punt returner. I love Randel El for his versatility and his form. The slow motion replay of his final touchdown has only the edge of his foot and the ball crossing the line touching the ground. He has good dance moves as well. He'd make a good correagrapher. Someone quicker could learn his moves, speed it up, and make truly impressive. A strong 3 reciever and 3 quarterback. Let him hold for FG attempts!

Betts signed cheap. If someone was looking specifically for a solid 2 and a low cap hit... who knows. Otherwise give Rock the ball and besides Sellers looks strong with a big hole and backers to run over. Who's to say... Sellers might make Riggins look puny with HOGS plowing holes. Though he could work on his burst, anything lower body and fast-twitch for that role.

O line, D line, and LB. Blades and Fletcher are both 5' 10." 60T and 40 solo aren't bad for a back-up with only 5 game starts. Washington looked awful but, McIntosh only matched his total with less solos in more games. It's his 3rd year but seems like a sophmore slump. I think Campbell made the pro-bowl as a special teamer but has he ever played LB? What is the correct term? Our Little People in the middle are our rock stars. No offense to Fincher whose picture looks like a Dick Tracy villian. Massive chin, neck and traps. We'll call him Demolition Head. But the Skin's need the depth to say to McIntosh 'no improvement no play.' Too many DB tackles. Maybe Deion should be able to play here. WR gets too much hype. At least a year off when it comes to the draft to wait and see. Devin Thomas was in the 4.2s. How much faster can a guy get or need be to find an opening before our QB is sacked?

Posted by: chavez66 | December 29, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

The 'Skins need to sign Hall and keep Rogers until his contract expires. This would give us a young and talented defensive backfield for another year.

Secondly, Snyder needs to gas up his private jet for another splurge in free agency, targeting DT Albert Haynesworth, RT Jordan Gross, and maybe DE Suggs. Additionally, we need to cut ties with oft injured "starters" Jansen, Springs, and Washington.

Lastly, with our picks we need to draft a talented and versatile interior offensive lineman to replace Kendall, with our 3rd Rd pick we should try to find another LB that can move inside or outside, 4th Rd a big receiver for camp competition, & 5th - 7 O-Line depth.

We cannot plug all of the holes in one offseason, but these changes would address our most glaring needs, and leave us with the core of the team intact for a playoff run. Then we pray that the improved line, and theoretically improved WRs will lead to more points.

Posted by: Prime1 | December 30, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Come on guys...Carlos showed improvement but how many times can this guy drop an interception that can change the outcome of a game. This guy can't catch a cold. Keep Hall...trade Rogers.

Posted by: brett4 | December 30, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

portis fumbled at a critical point in the last game and the previous one. so betts is bad because he fumbled? gibbs kept betts off the field when portis was not hurt and that will give him a slow start. betts should have been given more playing time that would have saved portis some. then maybe portis could have run to the endzone instead of dying while running. portis would cry if betts would have been given more chabces and he would have critized the coaches just like he did with gibbs when betts had been used more at one point. so gibbs went back to portis so he would not pout. rodgers has proved that he not a top corner. springs will most likely not get a decent fa offer from anyone.

Posted by: rls1041 | December 30, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

*If* the skins are convinced their younger players are part of the long-term plan then they should sign them to extensions/new deals before they hit FA. In scanning the roster for players that are close to being UFAs or RFAs, the key players include Rogers, Rocky, and Campbell, with Golston and Montgomery needing a decision as well soon. Hopefully they learned a lesson with Dockery - they waited too long and Buffalo offered him twice what they could have signed him for a year earlier.

If it were me I'd make Rogers a priority signing unless they're going to sign TWO starting free agents (Hall and someone else), because Springs and Smoot don't figure to be starters 2 years from now.

Posted by: sysadb420 | December 30, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Rogers actually made strides this year, and don't forget he was coming off a devistating knee injury. He plays well in coverage, but just has difficulty catching interceptions. As long as he's not constantly getting beat he'll do. We should sign Hall and keep Rogers for the duration of his contract because that is the only way we keep our secondary competitive. Springs is done, and Smoot is nothing more than a reserve at this point.

By trading Rogers its not likely we'll get equal value in return. Plus it creates a major hole in our secondary. We have more glaring needs on the team right now on both lines. We can address some of those needs this offseason, but the last thing we need to do is create another hole. Trading Rogers woould surely hurt our defense.

Posted by: Prime1 | December 30, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Let the Youth movement commence.......Zorn inherited the team that Gibbs built...the one he left because he knew he took them as far as he could which was one and done in the playoffs.

Focus on rebuilding both of the lines via the draft and free agency and the young offensive and defensive talent will shine.

Posted by: goosedude | December 30, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

if it aint broke don't fix it. our defensive backfield is probably the strongest part of the whole team. leave it alone keep every one of those guys if at all possible. linebackers need a small upgrade and d-line needs serious help. o-line we need two guards and a tackle betts is expendable if we can find a scat back to compliment the bruiser we got in portis and those wide outs need to be ready for camp next fall everything else is just fine

Posted by: nflorida1 | December 30, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I THOUGHT THIS WAS ABOUT SPORTS !! AND HOW THE REDSKINS CAN GET BETTER ! IF SO LEAVE THE RACE OUT OF IT !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: simms_gene | December 30, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

For all you Skins fans who really care about this team, I think we all have to write a petition to Dan to directly instruct Vinny to copy anything Bill Parcels do during the combine, and I bet you we will have a good draft. Please Vinny, do not use your own judgment; so far its been emotionally devastating to Skins fans that truly love this team. Vinny, whatever the move you are thinking of making, please Junk it and just copy Bill Parcels, trust me we will understand.

Posted by: abxinc | December 30, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

for the argument of rogers is a better corner than hall...Rogers FINALLY proved himself this year that he can hang, and next year he will be a lot better.

Hall makes gambles that's why he's been beaten, but he's had more big plays in his short season as a redskin than rogers did in 16 games. give me a break. get rid of him? he was a breath of fresh air on that defense. the times he got beat were the times where our coverage was all messed up anyways, you can't blame him solely on poort coverage

Posted by: stilllovetheskins | December 30, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

yall want to fix this well your all talkin about the wrong players! get rid of springs, washington and taylor cap reasons bring in suggs, haynesworth!

now the big shocker TRADE PORTIS !!!!!
Alota teams would give a first and a second or even 2 first rounders use one on a top running back like WELLS who would be an immediate impact then with our 1 first round o- line the n the second you get for portis another o line or lb thank you thats a start!!!!!

Posted by: all_this_bs | December 30, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Hi there from Switzerland in Europe. First time i've written a post. No. 53 will be missed, but injuries and cap make it almost certain he will be gone. I think we have excellent DBs. DeAngelo Hall was a find and I hope we resign him, but not at the money he got in OAK.

I am disappointed with Carlos Rogers, he is a good pass defender as we saw in first 8 games, but the problem is simple - he doesnt make enough INTs and I aint talking about the tough ones, i mean the simple ones. He has to make more, that simple. But if he goes away and makes more INTs then it is the coaching in my view. But we should keep him.

Best Wishes to all for 2009...

Posted by: jimagnew | December 31, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Oh where do I start? It has been almost 20 years or so since the team that I love won anything. The only way that the Redskins can expect to win is to rebuild the trenches on this team!! I know this will not happen, but I say Get rid of Portis as you could put almost any back behind a great line ( ala Denver ). I say get rid of Springs as he will never play a full season! Let Washington go as he too will never give you a full season! Get new pass rushers and D-linemen. Daniels and Griffin need to go as they are getting a little long in the tooth! I say you must keep Rogers and Hall to give the line a chance to be fixed! This team cannot stop the pass rush with patchwork offensive line and they cannot rush the passer and get sacks with a patchwork defensive line as that will never work!! This team needs a coach that will not put up with a player shinning his shoe after a score or a player that wants to hog all the rushing yards so he can wear his self down for the end of the season when they need him most!!

Posted by: cherrywatts42 | December 31, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

J.Taylor, Marcus, Griff, Jansen and Springs should all be gone. They are old men and make entirely too much money. I also think they should get rid of Ladell. He hasn't done anything in two years and doesn't help Clinton at all. Portis would def benefit from a nice Leon Washington or Jerious Norwood type backup. This team needs to rebuild the most vital parts of any football team, the o and d lines. They will never win anything with these old men we have protecting Jason. Everyone saw what happened when they wore down after 8 games. The d-line is atrocious and has been for years. I think Suggs is the only free agent we might be able to get. Peppers and Haynesworth are getting franchise tagged. They also need to resign Rogers and Hall. Smoot isnt a starter in this league. Minnesota found that out real quick. He plays 10 yards off the ball all day, gets nicked up all the time, and gets bodied by big receivers, I.E Roy E. Williams. By releasing all the old men who make entirely too much money, like I said before, we could actually accomplish alot through free agency, the draft, and WHAT ANY SMART TEAM WOULD DO BY RESIGNING THEIR BEST GUYS. Only time will tell. WE'LL MISS YOU MARCUS.

Posted by: Willis2 | January 1, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey I know. Let's use that first round pick and draft the punter from Cincinatti. HAHAHAHAHA...Seriously though.

I have been a fan of this team for years, and have just been sick about the lack of "coming together." This year we have a great secondary, but dismantled by an old offensive and defensive line. Shore up the lines, and lose 2-3 dbacks and linebackers through free agency and age. I know that is part of the game, but why is it that good teams seem to bring players in that age together and "come together" for a series of decent playoff runs? The Redskins have been in the process of rebuilding for years. Why is that? At some point you have to point fingers at the front office.

I remember that John Madden used to get into conflicts with Al Davis about the draft priority of d-back versus O-line, with Madden preferring O-line. I agree with Madden, and would expand on that. It may be old school, but at the pro level, the game is won and lost in the trenches. You have to have depth and youth in the offensive and defensive lines to have continuity in this league. Just look at the Giants.

Posted by: salbright | January 2, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

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