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Mike Sellers Unhappy About Contract; Not Participating In Voluntary Workouts

Pro Bowl fullback Mike Sellers has not been participating in the Redskins' voluntary offseason program, according to league and team sources, and is seeking a new contract. Sellers signed a four-year, $4 million deal in March 2007, which included a modest $700,000 signing bonus, and reached the Pro Bowl for the first time in 2008.

Sellers's current deal expires after the 2010 season and he recently changed agents, signing with high-profile Drew Rosenhaus, who shares a close relationship with Redskins owner Daniel Snyder. (Linebacker Rocky McIntosh also recently switched over to Rosenhaus in hopes of kick-starting negotiations on a contract extension, as was first reported on profootballtalk.com.) Sellers has been one of Washington's hardest workers and vocal team leaders since signing with the club in 2004, and though his pass-catching and other duties diminished last season in Coach Jim Zorn's offense, his lead blocking has long been considered a key element in the production of feature running back Clinton Portis.

The Redskins have a mandatory minicamp next weekend, and players who do not attend face a financial penalty. Calls and mesages to Sellers have not been returned. Sellers is due to make a base salary of $745,000 this season (with a $25,000 workout bonus that would be fortfeited by not participating in the offseason program), and he is due to make $900,000 in 2010, with the same workout clause.

By Jason La Canfora  |  April 24, 2009; 11:42 AM ET
 
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Here we go. The walls are beginning to crumble down.

Posted by: PrisonBalls00 | April 24, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

fizzurst!

Posted by: bnc211 | April 24, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Watch us try to not pay the guys who have been here, done things right, and deserve it. While, throwing millions to guys like Archuletta, B Loyd, Jeremiah Trotter, et al. Here we go.

Posted by: MadeRED | April 24, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Next we're gonna hear that Santana wants the ball more.

Posted by: PrisonBalls00 | April 24, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I heard tomorrow at the draft, Snyder is gonna poo on Jason Campbell's contract, and mail it to the Jets.

Posted by: PrisonBalls00 | April 24, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I love big Mike, but I have no sympathy for the Boldins, Sheldon Browns, and Sellars of the world. You signed a contract. It's called a contract for a reason. You should be happy just to be getting payed to do something that most are envious of. You either:
a)should not have signed said contract if you didn't agree with the terms
or:
b)shut the hell up, stop causing issues on your team, play your ass off until it's time to sign a new contract

Posted by: bnc211 | April 24, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Memo to Caveman. You and Zorn cost the skins a game and the playoffs by not getting in the endzone on two consecutive attempts. The last one you inexplicably and more an inditment on zorn for giving the ball to a middle of the pack fullback while 26 was on the bench....you fumbled. Get your overpaid arse in camp.

Posted by: jwcallahan91 | April 24, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I might have to break out of prison to come introduce my colon shank to Mike Seller's Hamstring.

Isn;t he getting up there in age? How many more years can he produce at his level?

Posted by: PrisonBalls00 | April 24, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey A-holes he signed the contract I'm sure there wasn't a gun to his head, there is no reason for the Skins to renagotiate now.

But I will love to read how the team is cheap and wont pay the players we have, please make them good.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 24, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

This franchise is a complete embarrassment, not just because of the last post. There isn't enough hours in the day to begin to explain why. I can't believe I used to get excited in the off-season for football to start. I couldn't care less anymore. I'm sure I'll end up watching the games still but there is just no optimism or passion, it's been sucked out year after year. Thanks Danny Boy and Vinny...go ball yourselves.

Posted by: Moose33 | April 24, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Complete embarrasment moose be more original then that, I would say the Lions are a complete embarrasment not the Skins.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 24, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

sellars can't catch...he has "okay" hands

he is no leonard weaver or heath evens

sellars can't run that well

he is no greg jones

sellars can block his tail off, one of the best.

dont' pay him,he is one dimensional.

Posted by: gortiz1 | April 24, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

i wish i had the opportunity to leave $25K on the table because of not showing up to work

Posted by: ThatGuy2 | April 24, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

ehh, I think I agree. Not a big deal, dude should get in camp.

Don't use Pro Bowl as a leverage, you might've deserved it but all the Skins Pro Bowl junk last year was comparable to the Stephen Colbert fad when people were mass voting for bridges and buildings to be named after him. It was just a big joke, I voted for Sellars a bunch just because. Pro Bowl means nothing.

Sellars is a great fullback and a hard worker, but he's also a great FULLBACK. Play a more important position if you wanna get paid Big Mike. Maybe try switching to TE? Linebacker? DE?

Love ya but come on.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Flounder, I see you're still holding onto the dream. I used to be like you, hoping one day that it might all turn around.

Think what you will, looking at the history of this team, what has happened on and off the field since Danny took over is an embarrasment in my eyes.

Posted by: Moose33 | April 24, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

This is a non-story. He is the fortys as far as importance on a 53 man roster. The real story is this front office making the same mistakes over and over. Campbell is not the answer @ QB, however they have MUCH more pressing needs @ DE, OL, LB and making a trade for a guy that has started 16 games and thrown under 500 passes in his career is insane. Stay meduim and trade back, turn the 13th pick into 2 2nd's. If they trade 2 1st's @ this yrs 3rd for sanchez there should be riots @ redskin park.

Posted by: jwcallahan91 | April 24, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

This is a non-story. He is the fortys as far as importance on a 53 man roster. The real story is this front office making the same mistakes over and over. Campbell is not the answer @ QB, however they have MUCH more pressing needs @ DE, OL, LB and making a trade for a guy that has started 16 games and thrown under 500 passes in his career is insane. Stay meduim and trade back, turn the 13th pick into 2 2nd's. If they trade 2 1st's @ this yrs 3rd for sanchez there should be riots @ redskin park.

Posted by: jwcallahan91 | April 24, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

bnc211 you are absolutely right. probably we shouldn't vote like crazy to get redskins into the pro bowl and make them think they ought to get more money. always liked the guy but that's awful

Posted by: vladoiu | April 24, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Think about it like this:

You sign a contract that says you get paid $100,000 per year for 4 years, with a clause saying the team can buy out your contract for $20,000.

You go out and play, and you suck. The team can't say: "well, you didn't play so great so we're going to pay you $75,000 per year instead of the $100,000 we promised in your contract"

And they can't cut you without paying the $20,000 buy out.

So logically (I know this is a stretch) the player can't sign a contract, go out and play great, and turn around and demand more money!

Posted by: jgarrisn | April 24, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I just hope that retard Synder isnt able to complete a trade to move up. JC is going to have a good year wether his is in the burgundy and gold or elsewhere.Keep the kid and let him shine. Oh my bad have the same offense for over 2 season. Synder is a idiot.

Posted by: firemanj74 | April 24, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Flounder, I see you're still holding onto the dream. I used to be like you, hoping one day that it might all turn around.

Think what you will, looking at the history of this team, what has happened on and off the field since Danny took over is an embarrasment in my eyes.

Posted by: Moose33 | April 24, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

ditto moose, i've lost my fandom as the team and owner have lost their way....

Posted by: dadanimal | April 24, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Come on Dat Boy, do the right thing. Don't get slimy cause you signed with Drew.

People are underestimating Seller's importance to this team. This guy has been a "true Redskin" for years... doing the dirty work without much glamour for next to minimum money. You can bet your sweet behind Portis would not have the yards he has had without big #45 bulldozing the way.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 24, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Ryp,

I never said he is not important to the team, I said he signed the contract so play and shut up.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 24, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I hate all this pissing and moaning with players wanted more money or new deals halfway through a contract cause the had a good year!! Do you think if they have a bad year ie JT55 that they give most of it back cause they weren't worth it? It's a joke and I do feel bad for owners in this regards. I love Sellers but when this crap starts it shows true charecter.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 24, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm not necessarily a Mel Kiper fan, but his latest and last mock on ESPN.com has Sanchez going to Seattle at 4 and us takiing USC OLB Brian Cushing at #13. I could live with that. Now relax and take deep breaths - and enjoy tomnorrow. we're not getting Sanchez.

Posted by: wagman1 | April 24, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"True Redskin" There hasnt been a true Redskin since snyder bought the team. I know snyder wants to win, he tells us all the time. However how can you believe him if he has failed so miserably in the last 10 yrs and the only constant is him. Since when does an owner fly to So Cal to watch a QB pro day when they have 3 LBs we should be scouting. If he really wants to win hire a real GM and sit in the press box and in 3 or so years realize your goals of winning.

Posted by: jwcallahan91 | April 24, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

i don't feel sorry for sheldon brown, boldin, or mike sellars...but i don't blame them...and i dont feel sorry for the teams...i mean the team offers a contract...but they can cut a player anytime...teams go back on contracts more than players ever do...this isn't the nba, where both the player and the team are required to fulfil their contract..

Posted by: jasonma1 | April 24, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Well, you have to look at the guys that have been "core" Redskins, sticking it out throughout all the crap, and then they see Danny throwing "that Redskin money" at people during the offseason, and I can see where that would make some folks feel undervalued.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I hope I didn't sound like I was knocking Sellars. He's one of my favorite Skins and yes he is one of those "True Redskins" we all love hearing about, but come on. First off, eff that sleazy agent. Rosenhaus is going to get Sellars AND RockyMac paid? Come on, I've never thought RockyMac was THAT good. Sellars is, but he already has a darn contract. He still has, what, 2 years left on it?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Who cares, Moss and Clinton like to workout on their own, just be there for the mandatories..Caveman like workout in bear cave!!

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

wag,

I could live with Cushing as well, he is going to be a beast and is a true SLB.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 24, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I have come to grips that the Jason Campbell Era of Redskins Football is over really before it had a chance to develop. Snyder/Cerrato have again alienated another QB and thus we'll start over again. While I actually think Mark Sanchez could be a good QB in the league, this move just makes no sense with so many good QBs coming next year. I don't believe Sanchez has any better of a shot of becoming a franchise QB than the guys coming out next year and they will all have an additional year of experience and maybe that's why he came out this year. We all know that likely Zorn is done after this year with all the big names available next year. The skins interest in Sanchez makes me think that Snyder might have his eye on a big name that hasn't been mentioned on RI today and that is Pete Carroll. Everyone's heard the rumors that Snyder has a man crush on Carroll and it wouldn't surprise me at all if this time next year we are hearing from Pete Carroll as to who the Redskins will be drafting with their top 10 pick, oh wait we won't have one b/c we'll trade it away for Sanchez this year.

Also all you JC haters out there, the reason no one will gives us a 2nd round pick for JC is b/c everyone in the league knows Snyder is going to get Sanchez and lose all leverage when it comes to trading Campbell. Smart football man in the league play Snyder/Cerrato like a guzoo in a dime store and will wait the idiots out and gobble up JC for a 4th rounder. That's is why there have been no takers on Campbell. There are a number of teams out there who will take a guy who doesn't turn the ball over. Good luck JC, Washington isn't a place for you. It is place where people come to get paid to sign and not paid to win.

Posted by: jayandcat | April 24, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Jgarrisn,

Teams can, and do, ask players to take pay cuts all the time. They can also flat out cut players with many years and a lot of money left on their contracts and not owe them a dime beyond the signing bonus.

I have no problem with Sellers wanting more money. Doesnt mean I think he should get more but if he wants to ask and thinks that missing volunatary stuff gives him some leverage then so be it. I'll care when he misses something mandatory. Football players have a VERY short window to cash in on their careers so I dont begrudge any player for trying to maximize their earnings.

Sellers is a great blocker and I think his attitude and locker room presence bring a lot to the team. That said, I dont think the Skins have to do anything with his contract. But I dont blame the guy for asking either.

Posted by: VaTerp1 | April 24, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

One other thing, I read this blog off and on and it's great to see that people are still so passionate about the team and are willing to support it through thick and thin. But it's this exact loyalty the Danny is using against us to continually meddle and run a disorganized and inept franchise. He's not afraid people won't come to the games, what's the waitlist for season tickets at right now? There is no consequence for his actions.

So what if we go 7-9 next year or get rid of JC and Sanchez? People are still going to show up at that "stadium" they call FedEx field and buy his $8 beers. That guy is not only one of the worst owners but cares nothing for the fans. I'm done.

Posted by: Moose33 | April 24, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

What is it about the word contract that NFL players don't understand? They make the pro bowl and want a new contract. Shut up and play football. When your contract is up, you get a new one, if you are worth it.

Posted by: skinsflorida | April 24, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

this Sanchez talk and Campbell trade talk just makes me absolutely sick cause we all know in two years with Sanchez and were in last every season he is gonna be gone and were gonna draft another QB when all we need to do is draft linemen

Posted by: skinsst21 | April 24, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"
I have come to grips that the Jason Campbell Era of Redskins Football is over really before it had a chance to develop. Snyder/Cerrato have again alienated another QB and thus we'll start over again. While I actually think Mark Sanchez could be a good QB in the league, this move just makes no sense with so many good QBs coming next year. I don't believe Sanchez has any better of a shot of becoming a franchise QB than the guys coming out next year and they will all have an additional year of experience and maybe that's why he came out this year. We all know that likely Zorn is done after this year with all the big names available next year. The skins interest in Sanchez makes me think that Snyder might have his eye on a big name that hasn't been mentioned on RI today and that is Pete Carroll. Everyone's heard the rumors that Snyder has a man crush on Carroll and it wouldn't surprise me at all if this time next year we are hearing from Pete Carroll as to who the Redskins will be drafting with their top 10 pick, oh wait we won't have one b/c we'll trade it away for Sanchez this year.

Also all you JC haters out there, the reason no one will gives us a 2nd round pick for JC is b/c everyone in the league knows Snyder is going to get Sanchez and lose all leverage when it comes to trading Campbell. Smart football man in the league play Snyder/Cerrato like a guzoo in a dime store and will wait the idiots out and gobble up JC for a 4th rounder. That's is why there have been no takers on Campbell. There are a number of teams out there who will take a guy who doesn't turn the ball over. Good luck JC, Washington isn't a place for you. It is place where people come to get paid to sign and not paid to win.


Posted by: jayandcat "

jeeze, you're over dramatic


JC is what he is, a decent if not solid starting QB in the NFL. I don't see how people can say he's great or he's awful, he's middle of the road. I've said plenty of times we can win with him, but an upgrade at QB wouldn't hurt any team in the NFL, let alone us.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm not necessarily a Mel Kiper fan, but his latest and last mock on ESPN.com has Sanchez going to Seattle at 4 and us takiing USC OLB Brian Cushing at #13. I could live with that. Now relax and take deep breaths - and enjoy tomnorrow. we're not getting Sanchez.

Posted by: wagman1 | April 24, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I hope that you and Mel are correct (about the not getting Sanchez part), but the fact that Mel says it doesn't necessarily increase my confidence level that it won't happen.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 24, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow, say what you want about sellers renegotiating but lets not start to pretend he is anything less than Mike "Stellars." cant catch? cant run? is this a joke? remember when Gibbsy got hime like 8 TDs oner year, whenever Gibbsy tossed him a pass outta the backfield he would crush one guy and jump over the next! But no youre right give haynesworth and MeAngelo all the money cuz theyre good on paper. Damn, its starting to feel like were in Hitlers bunker in the last days just looking to blame people, cmon yall, we Skinz fans! we survived 7 years of Norval and a whole mess of other junk lets not lose the faith now. HAIL SKINS FOR ETERNITY! Sellers rulez

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | April 24, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Sellers is ABSOLUTELY a true Redskins... he exemplifies what Redskin Glory is all about - that is, running the ball down the opponents throat and pancaking linebackers into oblivion. All while being a relative unknown.

Ill put it this way - I only have one current Skins players jersey, and its #45.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 24, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

"Both O-lines played great last year -- better than anybody had a right to expect. But the process as a whole is a lot less tidy than it might look on the surface.

Posted by: Samson151"

On the surface, yes, particularly for Atlanta. But that's why you have a GM, don't you? To know what talent you actually have, rather than what talent outside viewers feel is there. And maybe Vinny knows that Heyer and Rinehart can become consistent starters on a great offensive line unit. It's certainly possible. But early returns aren't looking too promising.

For Baltimore, they've been drafting linemen consistently for years. Jared Gaither, Ben Grubbs, Jason Brown, and Marshal Yanda were all drafted by the Ravens within the last 5 years. All 4 of them started last season. All 4 are young. Even when they couldn't retain Jason Brown, what did they do? They replaced him with a perennial pro-bowl center (even if he's older). There's no other way to spin it. That line is not an accident.

The fact of the matter is that Baltimore and Atlanta had their offensive lines largely set before they set up shop with their QBs. The base was there prior to the QBs arrival, and if it wasn't, a plan for getting that base (like Atlanta ensuring they got Baker) was there in it's place. "Rumor" may have it that Atlanta is looking for a replacement for Dahl (not likely IMO, considering the tender they put on him), but rumor also had it that the Redskins were looking for a replacement for Carlos Rogers. And even if Atlanta (because there's no way I believe Baltimore didn't have it planned out) just happened to land a great offensive line by chance, the fact is that Atlanta DID have a great offensive line for Matt Ryan to step in behind. He wouldn't have been successful last year had it not been that way. And judging by the Redskins' last two seasons, I'm going to venture a guess and say that wouldn't be the case for Sanchez.

Also, on another note, I wouldn't put too much stock into a writer that pushes for drafting an offensive lineman because one of the current starting tackles is "too young." That's a periculum level of logic.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | April 24, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Selers is more than a blocker and locker room guy, he is also abeast on special teams

Posted by: tomb4 | April 24, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Selers is more than a blocker and locker room guy, he is also abeast on special teams

Posted by: tomb4 | April 24, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Snyder has made the front office of the Redskins a true joke, but c'mon - did you ever root for the owner? When the Redskins won their super bowls, I certainly never heard anyone say, boy that Jack Kent Cooke, what a kick ass owner.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Donkey.

Go play for Al Davis.

Posted by: InexperienceKills | April 24, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

with the 13th pick we need to try and trade now then draft cushing and loadholt or oher if still there and someone else as long as its not a guy named Sanchez if snyder really wants a qb wait till next year and trade up for colt mccoy if he really wants to trade up

Posted by: skinsst21 | April 24, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Ok, we trade Campbell for a 3, LOAD UP on O-line and start...COLT!!! That would be better than taking Sanchez , and moving Campbell anyway...

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

So what if we go 7-9 next year or get rid of JC and Sanchez? People are still going to show up at that "stadium" they call FedEx field and buy his $8 beers. That guy is not only one of the worst owners but cares nothing for the fans. I'm done.

Posted by: Moose33 | April 24, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

ya people will continue to show up, but it will be the opposing team's fans...just like the monday night steelers game when 40% of the stadium was waving terrible towels...until that happens with regularity at fed ex, snyderatto will continue to go about their usual ways

Posted by: AhsanFamily | April 24, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

"The team can't say: "well, you didn't play so great so we're going to pay you $75,000 per year instead of the $100,000 we promised in your contract"

And they can't cut you without paying the $20,000 buy out.

Posted by: jgarrisn"

You do realize that the second statement contradicts the first statement.

Posted by: psps23 | April 24, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse


JC is what he is, a decent if not solid starting QB in the NFL. I don't see how people can say he's great or he's awful, he's middle of the road. I've said plenty of times we can win with him, but an upgrade at QB wouldn't hurt any team in the NFL, let alone us.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 1:12 PM

Truth, the problem that I and other people have is that an "upgrade at QB" WOULD HURT this team. It would hurt us because we are not adressing other areas of more pressing need AND we would have to give up additional draft picks, likely including next years 1st. All for a guy who MIGHT be an upgrade.

Im not entirely sold on Campbell either. I think he has the potential to be a quality starter for a long time but he needs to make more plays for me to be convinced.

At the same time, I think that there are many other areas that need to be addressed to improve this football team before we start worrying about the QB. If Sanchez fell to us at 13 and the Skins scouts liked him so much then I could live with taking him there. Even though I still wouldnt agree. But to give up picks to move up would just be completely idiotic. There is a reason that consistent winners like the Patriots and Steelers stock pile draft picks year after year.

Posted by: VaTerp1 | April 24, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Truth,

How can you say Sanchez is upgrade at QB. Hey I don't think Campbell is the next Peyton Manning but I think he has built a solid foundation for the Skins to move forward with and now that foundation has been demolished before the 3rd story was even built and we have to start all over again. I am tired of starting over again and again with no new plan of attack, the skins are just a broken record and it has just gotten old. I just can't get excited about being a skins fan anymore. I'll always be skins fan I can't not be one but it doesn't mean I have to get excited about a series of personnel moves that will be replaced with another series of personnel moves in 3 years.

Posted by: jayandcat | April 24, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

wish this type of stuff didn't have to happen, I appreciate the stuff Big Mike brings to the team, he's a hard worker, and a valuable player, but come on....just because Rosenscum wants a new commission doesn't me you do this.

Agreed on Cushing, I think of the 3 USC guys, he's probably the best pass rusher, and the best cover guy, and to me has the most upside. I'm ok, with either he, or with Ayers....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 24, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

He is under contract.
He was happy when he signed it, wasn't he.

Posted by: jmy999 | April 24, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like he makes a lot of money to me. I don't blame anyone for trying to get theirs, but hey, at the end of the day this guy is a glorified offensive lineman who gets a handful of carries and passes thrown his way every year. He's not the second coming of Jim Brown and he could be replaced with someone who costs a lot less and who could carry the ball a lot more. I'd be quiet and come to practice if I were Sellars. It hasn't been so long ago that he was playing in the CFL.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 24, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Did you get that Seller's jersey on the discount rack. He hasnt won squat, To be a true redskin bring home the trophy. You think 81,7,66,44,84,53,77,28,etc. look @ a guy that "runs over people and flattens Linebackers" yet cant get in the endzone in two attempts from the 1 yd line and fumbles away a game and the playoffs as a true redskin. Caveman couldnt hold Otis Wonsley's jock.

Posted by: jwcallahan91 | April 24, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"I've said plenty of times we can win with him, but an upgrade at QB wouldn't hurt any team in the NFL, let alone us.

Posted by: TheTruth11"

The trick is finding the upgrade. There aren't many out there.

Posted by: psps23 | April 24, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Three weeks ago you couldn't find more than one or two people on this blog that support JC. Now that Snyder has shown disinterest in him (real or otherwise)he is the greatest QB to ever dress in the burgandy and gold.

If Snyder held a presser today to express his hatred of Adlof Hitler this blog would turn into the Fourth Reich.

Posted by: Pleepleus | April 24, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Otis Wonsley, #39 in your program, haven't heard that name in a LONG time....

either use a 7th rd pick on javorsky lane, or pick him up after the draft as a Undrafted Free Agent. See how quick Sellers gets to camp

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 24, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

So, he has a 4 year $4 million contract and the last two years are worth $745m and $910m. That means his first two years were over the $1m. My point is, his contract was front loaded and now he is getting the smaller part of the contract. Sellers, you signed it now live with it. Next time, don't front load it. Back load it.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | April 24, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Did you get that Seller's jersey on the discount rack. He hasnt won squat, To be a true redskin bring home the trophy. You think 81,7,66,44,84,53,77,28,etc. look @ a guy that "runs over people and flattens Linebackers" yet cant get in the endzone in two attempts from the 1 yd line and fumbles away a game and the playoffs as a true redskin. Caveman couldnt hold Otis Wonsley's jock.

Posted by: jwcallahan91 |

Youre an idiot. Go root for the Pats or Steelers. So we haven't had any true Redskins since 91? I guess Dan Marino wasn't a true Dolphin either, in that case.

Give me a team full of guys like Sellers who are physical at all costs and give 100% on every play, and I'll be happy regardless.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 24, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

So he's not happy about the money he's making, and then he skips out on the $25,000 workout bonus?? Doesn't seem to make sense?? Can't have it both ways....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 24, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Cushings shoulder surgery is a red flag..A bum shoulder not good for NFL linebacker..If we go LB, I say Mauluaga, start him at Washington's OLB slot and in a few years after Fletcher, move him to MLB..

http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cushing_brian00.html

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe what I just read on fos sports site. This is what Jay Glazer had on his mock draft...

13. Redskins — If they haven't traded for Sanchez ... Maryland WR Darrius Heyward-Bey. This one is a wild card. They can go TE Brandon Pettigrew, a speedy wideout or a pass rusher like Brian Orakpo or Everette Brown.

Who I'd take — Pettigrew. The Oklahoma State TE has legitimate Pro Bowl potential and could team with Chris Cooley to bring Jason Campbell's game up a notch. I'd go wideout later if I was Washington.

And this is a sports writer, thank God he's not in Danny Cerrato's camp.

Posted by: BingCreole | April 24, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"Three weeks ago you couldn't find more than one or two people on this blog that support JC.
Posted by: Pleepleus"

Nah, you just haven't been paying attention.

Posted by: psps23 | April 24, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Where's Wilbur Marshall when you need him?

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Via ESPN's Sal Paolantonio:
The Redskins have talked about a number of scenarios, especially this one: trading from 13th to fourth and selecting Sanchez, then dealing Campbell to another team, perhaps the Minnesota Vikings, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or the Jets -- to recoup lost picks

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 24, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

i wish i had the opportunity to leave $25K on the table because of not showing up to work

Posted by: ThatGuy2 | April 24, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse


Then go get yourself an occupation where tens of thousands of people are willing to pay to watch you work. And pay to park outside of your place of work. And pay for concessions while you work. And pay for replicas of the outfits you wear to work.

Doubt they are lining up outside the cube farm to cheer your RI entries.

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 24, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

From Maske

It remains unclear today if Sanchez will go fourth overall Saturday to the Seattle Seahawks. There is some talk of the Cleveland Browns taking him fifth and trading Brady Quinn.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | April 24, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

some USC Samoans, Junior Seau, Troy Polamalu, Lofa Tatupu........... Rey Maualuga
ive been all about drafting oline with Oher and Smith or trading back, getting a center, but when i saw that video again of maualuga hitting that qb from ucla, it hit me, this could be the guy to complement haynesworth, he's nasty, he has that fire and he could be the one, im still not sure, but he's got the fire like Sean Taylor, it's a good start, but if we draft o-line at #13 im all bout that too

Posted by: retroskins14 | April 24, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"Who I'd take — Pettigrew. The Oklahoma State TE has legitimate Pro Bowl potential and could team with Chris Cooley to bring Jason Campbell's game up a notch. I'd go wideout later if I was Washington."

Haven't you heard? Zorn's installing the first ever base 3 TE, 0 WR set. It's a running back's dream.

Posted by: psps23 | April 24, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Every time you print the words "Drew Rosenhaus," I feel compelled to wipe all the slime off my computer screen. Thanks a lot.

Posted by: drischord | April 24, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't think anyone on here is under the illusion that JC is the next coming of Joe Montana. Point is the guy has shown some flashes while being hamstrung by a dysfunctional franchise. You let him play out this year and fill the other glaring holes as best you can. With the amount of money we spend this should be an elite team every year. So when you look at it that way yes this team is an embarrassment.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 24, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

'...What is it about the word contract that NFL players don't understand?'

Actually, the mistake they make is forgetting their agent is their employee and not the other way around.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 24, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Just so everyone knows, I'm not happy with my current contract either.

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | April 24, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Youre an idiot. Go root for the Pats or Steelers. So we haven't had any true Redskins since 91? I guess Dan Marino wasn't a true Dolphin either, in that case.

Give me a team full of guys like Sellers who are physical at all costs and give 100% on every play, and I'll be happy regardless.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 24, 2009 1:31 PM

Rypien 11. Now that was a true Redskin and we didnt use 3 draft picks to get him like we did for JC17 or may do tomorrow for a guy w/ 16 career starts. Point is you praise him for his work ethic and he is not @ camp. I love Sellar's blocking ability as well and he looks good getting off the bus before games but he is very replacable. Is this the resume of a True Redskin.
Edmonton Eskimos (1995-1997)
Washington Redskins (1998-2000)
Cleveland Browns (2001)
Winnipeg Blue Bombers (2002-2003)
Washington Redskins (2004-present)

Better off making a case for 26,60,47,76 and that's it that's the list.

Posted by: jwcallahan91 | April 24, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I've yet to see anything regarding Cushings shoulder, anywhere...

Glazer, lazy, just flat out lazy reporting, he's usually better than that.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 24, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Heyward Bey or Petigrew might get picked at 13, but not by the Redskins.

I'm really hoping that the FO deal making jones get filled by moving back vice up.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 24, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I might have to break out of prison to come introduce my colon shank to Mike Seller's Hamstring.

-PrisonBalls00

Colon shank??? Is that even possible? No offense, Mr. Balls, sir.

Posted by: LarryBud | April 24, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm a fan of anybody who puts forth the effort and lays themselves on the line selflessly for the team.

I would agree with 26, 47, 60, 76... but those guys are all making AT LEAST 5 TIMES what 45 is making, and Sellers has been working just as hard if not harder over the last 5 years. And unlike 76, he's still an important part of the team.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 24, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

'...Sellers is more than a blocker and locker room guy, he is also abeast on special teams...'


But is he replaceable?

Take a quick look at the free agent fullbacks out there before deciding.

I'd remind him he has a contract and expect him to show up on time.

He's a lockerroom leader, but even on the Starship Enterprise, Capt. Kirk knew he could be removed.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 24, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

jwcall,

I don't believe in this true redskins crap but 60,47,and 76 would be the best candidates.

76 gets thrown under the bus on here everyday, so I like the way we only care about true Redskins when they can still play.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 24, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Sellers is 33 and has at most, 1-2 productive years left at FB. He wants to maximize his time left and sees the $'s shelled out by the Skins in restructuring deals for guys who aren't as productive. You can't blame him for wanting to get a piece of the pie after having a Pro Bowl season. He's also making very little for a guy who's been in the league almost 10 years. I doubt Snyder/Cerrato will give him a new contract, but we've seen them do crazier things like alienate their starting QB multiple times without a replacement lined up.

I hope that Sanchez gets picked by someone else in front of the Skins and Snyder has to "clear the air" again with JC. It's an embarrassment how this organization has been run for the last 10 years since he's been the owner.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 24, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Most of you guys up here sound like jealous losers. " he signed a contract, be happy your playing football".

no one complains when a team does not honor a contract and cuts a player. the players have rights to.

I guess most of you guys have not been in sales before and the ones who have should understand this.

If you are the top person or one of the top person's in your company and they pay you less than the people who do less and perform less than you than you have everyright to ask for more money.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | April 24, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Colon shank??? Is that even possible? No offense, Mr. Balls, sir.

Posted by: LarryBud

LMAO!
JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | April 24, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

prison balls can work wonders with his shank

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like pretty good pay for the slowest running FB in the league.

Posted by: bones21 | April 24, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Ryp,

He should have negotiated a better contract then, you don't sign it and then cry about it.

He will show up to mandatory or he will be fined no big deal.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 24, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm still coming to grips with the concept that someone could be motivated enough to hide a knife in his colon.

Posted by: LarryBud | April 24, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I heard tomorrow at the draft, Snyder is gonna poo on Jason Campbell's contract, and mail it to the Jets.

Posted by: PrisonBalls00 | April 24, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

This really made me laugh.

Posted by: Devo2 | April 24, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Rypien 11. They should have cut 76 in the offseason but it is cheaper to keep him then to absorb the cap hit. I've been down on Sellers since he screwed us from the 1 yd line. 285 lbs and he tries to jump from 5 yds out instead of punishing the D and then the fumble on the next play.

Posted by: jwcallahan91 | April 24, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Flound - I agree, he should honor his contract... I just also see his point about being underpaid because I think he is integral to team success, moreso than his contract would indicate... can't blame him when a new guy shows up and gets $10M a year either when hes been busting his butt for 5 years at $1m a year.

Im sure it will all get resolved.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 24, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I really hope Jenkins, Moreno, Crabtee and Oher are sitting there at 13. Somebody in the 20's would come get one of them.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 24, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Re: Sellers, I too am generally of the school of thought that if you sign the contract, you live up to it. But I think that several points deserve mentioning. First, what he's missed so far have been VOLUNTARY workouts. My guess is that, since money appears to be his issue, once training camp starts he'll be there rather than get fined. Second, given the one-way nature of NFL contracts, I don't blame Sellers or any other player for seeking a re-negotiation of his deal. Contrary to what some of the posters here seem to think, after a disappointing season, teams can go to a player in the midst of a multi-year deal and say "either take X amount of dollars less than what we paid you last year, or we'll cut you and owe you nothing." Happens all of the time, and it's possible largely because the signing bonus is the only guaranteed part of most NFL contracts. Finally, some of you seem to be caught up in the dollar amounts involved. However, I think that you have to evaluate things in the context in which they arise, and in the NFL, $745,000, especially for a starter and a Pro Bowler, is peanuts. So I agree that guys should live up to their contracts (and I think that ultimately, Sellers will), but I can see Sellers' point of view, too.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 24, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"JC is what he is, a decent if not solid starting QB in the NFL. I don't see how people can say he's great or he's awful, he's middle of the road. I've said plenty of times we can win with him, but an upgrade at QB wouldn't hurt any team in the NFL, let alone us."

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 1:12 PM

I have a problem with the reasoning behind the assumption that taking Sanchez is automatically an "upgrade" at QB. Sanchez is a Colt clone who played in a system offense where he started for one year with an OL that was, in a college context, better than the OL he'd work behind here. He's coming out a year early specifically so he won't get lost among the *real* talent at QB that will be available in the 2010 draft, and he's managed to schmooze himself up the draft charts almost purely on the strength of personality and attitude. The odds of him being a franchise QB -- or even a decent NFL QB are no better than 50%. He's just as likely to be the next Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, or Alex Smith. JC17 is a known commodity, and we've proven that we can with with him if he gets even a little help from his OL and WR corps. There's no gamble here if we draft for need rather than for flash. If Zorn and DanMan want to change their physical model at QB to someone more in the classic WC mold, fine -- start grooming Colt, and give JC17 enough support to prove, in his last contract year, that he can thrive in this system.

Posted by: Shadowskin | April 24, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Mike Sellers is making a serious miscalculation and he has taken bad advise

Zorn wants to go 2 TE with Cooley and Davis + Yoder

Unfortunately this will end badly for Sellers

It's sad.

I went to the pro bowl now pay me!

This may be a business, but players need to understand when they don't really have leverage.

Draft: Rey Malaluga

Posted by: snyderbandwagon | April 24, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Sellars of course wants to cash in on his "pro-bowl" year when he won because Redskins.com stuffed the ballot box on the pro-bowl votes. Don;t forget Suisham was leading at kicker for a while too. Sellars is an excellent player for the Skins, but few teams tear up contracts with 2 years left on them. Ask Lito Shephard or Sheldon Brown or Anquan Boldin or Ocho Cinco etc. much less a good blocking fullback. You could say "yeah that's the Skin's FO - shorting their own players and paying big bucks to free agents" But the thing is Sellars still has two years on his deal that he now wishes he hadn't signed. If he didn't get the fixed pro-browl bid he wouldn't be pissed now.

Posted by: thinker11 | April 24, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

'... a modest $700,000 signing bonus...'

$700,000 is modest?

This from a sports reporter.

Where's the WA PO Personnel Office. I want to get paid to where I can call $700,000 modest.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 24, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Snyder has made the front office of the Redskins a true joke, but c'mon - did you ever root for the owner? When the Redskins won their super bowls, I certainly never heard anyone say, boy that Jack Kent Cooke, what a kick ass owner.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

au contraire....When the Skins were winners, the press always talked about the great Redskins "organization". Who put together & headed the organization?...The Squire.

Posted by: nonsensical2001 | April 24, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

When will Mike Sellars learn? Snyder doesn't pay people for what they do in Bergundy and Gold, he pays them for what they do in another team's uniform!

Posted by: Alan4 | April 24, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Snyder needs to buy another player a big screen TV...

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | April 24, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Dude, you are a beast but you couldn't get us one lousy yard and fumbled away a TD in the Bengals game. The pro-bowl was a gift. Don't let it get to your head.

Posted by: daddy00 | April 24, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if this was posted earlier ( i can't read all 823 of them ) This idea that " He signed a contract.....shut up and play!!!" stuff is crap.

It works both ways. Hey, management signs those contracts also. They have the right to cut a guy ... whenever...they have the right to void contracts....whenever....why can't a player??

While I agree that Big Mike is talking a lot of noise, he has the RIGHT to do this just as much as the team does.

Posted by: cej75024 | April 24, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Jack Kent Cooke is precisely the reason we are all up in arms at the way the organization is run. Most of us posting on here grew up in the JKC era and we witness to how you run a great organization and that is why it is so hard to accept how the organization has been run for the last ten years. If we were Detroit fans we'd expect nothing less. But we are Skins fans and we expect to be competing for the playoffs every year with a real good to chance to win the SB every couple years, ie Steelers, and with the current ownership's management style we won't see that.

Posted by: jayandcat | April 24, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Pay the guy.

He deserves it......

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 24, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Geez, everyone. Enough with the JC bashing! Let me explain something (and state the obvious in the process): We need a line. I'm convinced that JC would look like Tom Brady if given the time in the pocket to throw. Don't believe me? Look at history: does anyone here think Mark Rypien was a GREAT qb? Probably not. What made him PLAY great was great line play. Ryp went an entire (Super Bowl) season with only being sacked something like 11 times. There were ENTIRE GAMES where he wasn't even hit! JC could easily do the same thing. Still don't believe me? Think about this: why is it that every qb that plays the Skins looks like an all-pro? (Byron Leftwich or Cincinnati QB du jour anyone?) It's because we had ZERO pass rush. The correlation is obvious to everyone except those who own/run the skins. GET BETTER LINEMEN (both offensive and defensive). Thus endeth the lesson...

Posted by: therearenonamesleft | April 24, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

In principle, I'm not against players attempting to get paid they're worth, even when they're currently under contract.

I'm just not sure how much leverage Sellers has here. He's old, he's a fullback, and it's not like Sellers has been making a killing in the league and can afford to sit out and sacrifice paychecks. Eventually he'll succumb, even if he's not happy about it.

Posted by: psps23 | April 24, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

When will Mike Sellars learn? Snyder doesn't pay people for what they do in Bergundy and Gold, he pays them for what they do in another team's uniform!


Sounds like it's Lorenzo Neal time! ;)

Posted by: stevek20147 | April 24, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

In the NFL, not the real world necessarily, these contract situations happen all of the time. Unfortunately, it is the way it works--roll with it. In the Dictionary of American Football, the word 'contract' should read: A temporary agreement between team and player that either the team or player may attempt to renegotiate at any time.

Posted by: BigE44 | April 24, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Don't blame caveman. I imagine he'd show up before getting fined but after agent fees and taxes it's not like he can retire after this deal. And I don't think he's a hypocrite because teams always have the out clause in contracts and no one complains about it. That said, how much more does caveman want? Maybe more guaranteed up front is reasonable but $1m avg is a pretty fair deal for him.

Posted by: AdamCr | April 24, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

This is a non-story.

Dude lost a game for us.

He should be lucky we didnt cut him.

Posted by: m1ke3i6 | April 24, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

any good rumors percolating out there....this being the eve of the draft...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 24, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

We are going to be the second team to go 0-16 for the season next this coming year...everything is turning to crap...first dan and vinny lie to JC right to his face...then Big Mike us unhappy with a contract that should of been extended at the end of this year...no other team has a management problem like ours...we are the worst...

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 24, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Careful, stevek! Snyder is probably on the phone with Neal right now, trying to package a deal to get him and Brett Favre in exchange for 6 first round picks, Sellars, and JC17!

Posted by: Alan4 | April 24, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

oh and everyone says he lost 1 game for us last year...first of all the play-calling was horrid that whole game...second of all we tried to do the SAME PLAY TWICE!!!! Everyone on the Bengals defense knew what we were doing...Mike Sellers is one of the few unselfish good players on our team...m1ke3i6 you have no idea what in Gods name you are talking about...

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 24, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

SELLERS!!!!!!!! UGHGHGHGHG!

Posted by: ajj123 | April 24, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

BeantownGreg:
Try searching yr fave search engine for "brian cushing" shoulder and/or read some of this:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/the_bonus/09/08/cushing.usc/

It is a major concern. Sounds like he had a dislocation and a labral tear. According to him, he couldn't feel the left side of his body for periods. I'd be very cautious about taking him at 13...some types of tears predispose you to multiple, future dislocations.

Posted by: cpascopr | April 24, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

What's next? Yoder wants a trade?! Fmylife

Posted by: ajj123 | April 24, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I wish I had Seller's contract.

But it's probably got to be frustrating to be in this business w/ the Skins and watch guys like AH get $48mill, and know that Snyder is ready to throw #4 money at a guy like Sanchez, while you have been there the whole time busting your butt...

Posted by: p1funk | April 24, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

WHen will people get that Mark Sanchez is not that good...all these teams are talking about how he is smart and charismatic...The guy is an actor not an NFL QB...HE IS NOT THAT GOOD!!!

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 24, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Careful, stevek! Snyder is probably on the phone with Neal right now, trying to package a deal to get him and Brett Favre in exchange for 6 first round picks, Sellars, and JC17!

Sssshhhhh, you'll ruin the big splash @ Six Flags Ashburn.

Posted by: stevek20147 | April 24, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Mike Sellars has been a good player for us. He should never be allowed to run the ball in goal-line situations ever again, but he is a very useful player.

He might even be a little bit under paid, but he signed the contract just two years ago. If he is holding out because he thinks he has outperformed his contract he can go play in traffic.

Firsty, as a justification for a rise it is completely bogus. You signed your contract because you though you were going to play badly? "Hey, I wasn't expecting to do a good job, I deserve more than I signed for."

Secondly, he made it to the Pro Bowl, more through name recognition and fan voting than through having a stellar season. Though it pains me the Giants fullback had a better season, and even he was so anonymous I can't remember his name.

So, whilst I wouldn't be against re-doing Sellars contract next year (especially if it is uncapped) he needs to suck it for now and hope the front office uses the cap space he wants to eat into to strengthen the team.

Posted by: adsmanager | April 24, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I really hope Jenkins, Moreno, Crabtee and Oher are sitting there at 13. Somebody in the 20's would come get one of them.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 24, 2009 1:51 PM

If Crabtree is there at 13 the Skins should take him. He's the player in this draft with the best chance of being great. But my guess is the Seahawks take him at 4.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 24, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell looking like Tom Brady? Really now, what ya' been smoking, dude?

Posted by: wagman1 | April 24, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

This is a non-story.

Dude lost a game for us.

He should be lucky we didnt cut him.

Posted by: m1ke3i6

Epic fail.

Not Sellers fault for calling the same stupid play twice in a row for a guy who doesn't have the hands to be a goal line rusher, and the whole defense knew what was coming.

Run your bread and butter - 26 or 46 behind Sellers twice. If they stop it, good for them.

Playcalling killed us that game and most of the year.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 24, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Nice...I see that Dan, Vinny, and Zorn are gonna be on ESPN980 radio at 5:00...like I really wanna hear Vinny say "well, we can do three things, trade up, trade down, or stay where we are."

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 24, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

This just in...Chris Cooley traded to the Toronto Argonauts for draft picks in the CFL draft and a ham sandwich

Posted by: ajj123 | April 24, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

The problem is not that Mike Sellers cant run the ball, the problem is that you cant give him the hand off right at the line of scrimmage and expect him to gain yardage. if you are going to give him the ball he has to get it at the RB position to gain some momentum.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | April 24, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Boldin now being shopped for a second rounder...Great!!! we dont have one..Thank you Vinny..you dic!!!!!

Posted by: Tyler84101 | April 24, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Memo to the "he signed the contract, he should play" crowd: you are aware that NFL contracts are non-guaranteed, right? You are aware that teams go to players in the offseason asking them to renegotiate ALL THE TIME, right? If a contract is a contract, why doesn't ownership live up to it as well as the player?

If contracts were guaranteed, I'd agree that they should play (although if a player exceeds expectations in the duration, they should ask for a raise but that's for another discussion). If ownership can go to players, even those whose production is high and ask them to renegotiate and take less money and can cut them without honoring the rest of the contract WHENEVER THEY WANT, I have zero problem with players asking for a raise in the middle of their contract. It's a two way street.

Posted by: playahatah | April 24, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I love how danny boy uses vinny as a shield for all the bad decisions that destroy our team...vinny is just a puppet that says yea to EVERYTHING danny says...

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 24, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Give Sellers a comfy slanket and tell him to shut the f up. We got a future to mortgage by chasing after underclassmen in a noted position of no-need. PS - Dear JC17, go talk to Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson about whether it's all bad to be forced out of DC. Under Snyder, people come to DC to get paid, people leave DC to win.

Posted by: DickCheneysDutchOvenCookies | April 24, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"about it like this:

You sign a contract that says you get paid $100,000 per year for 4 years, with a clause saying the team can buy out your contract for $20,000.

You go out and play, and you suck. The team can't say: "well, you didn't play so great so we're going to pay you $75,000 per year instead of the $100,000 we promised in your contract"

And they can't cut you without paying the $20,000 buy out.So logically (I know this is a stretch) the player can't sign a contract, go out and play great, and turn around and demand more money!Posted by: jgarrisn "

I get the feeling you're not an attorney...

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to go to draft day at FedEx Field and get everyone to BOOOO after we trade all of our draft picks for this year and next year to get Sanchez...

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 24, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't Dan do his patented 6 year extension and increase his salary within the next 4 years so that it will screw up our salary cap number down the road...isn't he the best at doing that??

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 24, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

he deserves a better salary. 900,000 is crazy talk for one of the best blocking FB's in the NFL. i mean he is over 30 so it shouldnt be that much but he definitely deserves a better contract

Posted by: sweeet_jones | April 24, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I might have to officially re-register as ColonShank.

Posted by: LarryBud | April 24, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Or better yet start referring to every bad decision or outcome related to the 'Skins as a "shank to the colon."

ie. "Did you hear Snyder traded away all of next years draft picks to get Leigh Torrence back? Man, that was a shank to the colon."

Posted by: LarryBud | April 24, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Crabtree's 41 TD's in two years is a helluva clip- like almost 2 TD's per game..Looks to be the next Moss (Randy)/ Owens..Then again , he's playing in the trackmeet posing as a football game known as the Big 12..

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Sellers needs to man up and show up I cant feel sorry for a guy making $900 K a year!!!

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 24, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

LarryBud,

Would you rather Danny trade two 1st rounders and a 3rd next year to move up to get Sanchez...or get your colon shanked?

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | April 24, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Interesting story today in Fredericksburg's paper about the Skins neglecting their offensive and defensive lines in the draft. Check it.

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2009/042009/04242009/461374

Posted by: DCity | April 24, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Look, what we have seen from JC is pretty much what we are going to get...and in IMHO it is not good enough to get the team to the Superbowl. But that does not mean we should overpay for Sanchez or any other QB at this point. Unfortunately Danny/Vinny have put themselves in the position of having to make desperation moves to make up for all the bad personnel decisions they have made over the years. The cumulative inneptitude has just about reached a boiling point for this team and if they dont get rid of Vinny within a year, they will see themselves perpetually a sub .500 nonplayoff team, even with the forgiving nature of the NFL scheduling scheme each year. In a way I would like to see Danny/Vinny yet again significantly overpay for Sanchez (I believe they will trade with KC for the #3 spot, giving up #13 pick this year, a 2nd round pick next year and Chris Cooley) because it may get them closer to that boiling point quicker, as glaring inadequacies in other parts of the team will be exposed much quicker (Oline, linebacker and cornerback). They will also then probably trade JC to the Jets and pick up 4th and 6th round picks this year or next, and end up reaching for O-linemen and O-linebackers in the later rounds of this draft, which will also further expose their poor personnel evaluation skills. And actually I dont disagree with trading Cooley and Sellers if we can get fair value for them, as neither really fits in the West Coast offensive scheme...but sadly Danny/Vinny dont know how to make a trade that would net them fair value. They have gotten pretty much fleeced on every trade they have made, have they not?

I would like someone (doc walker) to ask Danny a hypothetical question, "if you could be 99% sure that it would get you to the superbowl, would you backoff completely from this team's player personnel, coaching and cap/contract decisions and hire an established GM? Or is this not foresee-ably possible, because as the owner, one of the main reasons you bought the team is because it allows you to keep your hand directly in the mix--and this is what you love to do?"

Posted by: oddjob2 | April 24, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I guess Sellers has to do what he has to do to make as much as he can in his playing years, but this is unfortunate.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 24, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

shut the hell up, stop causing issues on your team, play your ass off until it's time to sign a new contract
Posted by: bnc211

I LOVE those brave warriors here, who, protected by anonymity and electrons suggest that Mike Sellers “shut the hell up.” Just hilarious. Don’t write it, guy. Seek him out and tell him to his face. We’ll visit you in the hospital. Honest.

Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

The damage has been done. So what happens if we don't get Sanchez? Campbell will still probably want out.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 24, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

The damage has been done. So what happens if we don't get Sanchez? Campbell will still probably want out.

Posted by: rachel216

If we guarantee the O-line is strong, with Portis and the weapons, we could start Colt and do a better Ravens impersonation than they could..

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

you know what's terrible? the fact there has been only one post on the day before the draft. is nothing really going on over there in ashburn? find that hard to believe.

Posted by: MondoTE11 | April 24, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey A-holes he signed the contract I'm sure there wasn't a gun to his head, there is no reason for the Skins to renagotiate now.

Posted by: Flounder21 |

Who you calling an A-hole, A-hole? I thought we were all being nice?

Your argument is utter nonsense. How many times did Billionaire Snyder’s reps come hat in hand to players under contract and ask THEM to renegotiate downward? It happens all the time. Especially in the sports and entertainment industries.

When a player exceeds expectations—such as reaching the pro bowl—he deserves a bump without being asked. That’s ESPECIALLY so when guys who haven’t thrown a block yet for the Maroon and Gold are lavished with money.

Contracts are renegotiated upward, downward and sideways all the time in the NFL. The “gun” held to the head of players is used when they have less negotiating power. The “gun” the players use is withholding services when they—or their agent—feel they aren’t being treated fairly.

I “get it” that most people on this board are rock-ribbed conservative in their philosophy. But fair’s fair (and balanced) and if there is anyone on this team who has earned an upward bump, it’ Sellers. Just ask Portis.

You thought the running game sucked LAST year? Try it without Sellers.

Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE those brave warriors here, who, protected by anonymity and electrons suggest that Mike Sellers “shut the hell up.

How 'bout it.

A guy like Sellars would put most of us in traction if we mouthed off at him about how he earns his chedda'.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 24, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

oddjob2,
If we trade Cooley...the skins would lose a large part of the fan base, which dan would cringe at. Also I think you are right about mike sellers not fitting the west coast scheme that well, but i do disagree with you about cooley not fitting the west coast offense seeing as how he had more catches than anyone on our team last year

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 24, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

easy corky....easy....chill out...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 24, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I know this is yesterday's news, but I have to say JC17's request for a trade if Sanchez is drafted is pure brilliance. And it's great that he states his position up front. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about his longevity in the NFL and an environment for success.

Because if the Skins draft Sanchez, that implicitly means they didn't address the O-line and likely mortgaged a big chunk of the near future. In other words, they aren't giving their starting QB here the tools to succeed.

JC17 would put himself in a similar position as Brad Johnson was, but even better--a solid young QB castoff with all the physical tools to really thrive somewhere else for another 10 years, and possibly win a Super Bowl.

How long will the Skins be a graveyard for QBs?


Posted by: Alan4 | April 24, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Just pay Mike his money. I mean good grief! Take some of the money from Haynesworth and give it to Jason.

Posted by: tamika02 | April 24, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez is not gonna happen...We'll draft an O-lineman who's the nasty, find a gem at lineback later in the draft, the offense will come together, the d will be lights out, JC17 will be an all star and we'll go 14-2...yes, I'm still hammered from last night

Posted by: ajj123 | April 24, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Well, they are probably now on 24 hour blackout at Ashburn as they prepare the cake and punch for Vinny's "all-nighter".

And I do understand that under Jack Kent Cooke the Redskins were a great organization. My point is that I root for the team, not the front office. I can't control what these ass-clowns do, and if I let it bother me, it ruins my experience as a fan.

I've always been a Redskin fan and always will be, no matter what these amatuers do to the time. Most teams have spent some time wandering in the wilderness, so I just have to be patient.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I love Mike Sellers, and I hope this is a smoke-no-fire kind of thing. Like he just doesn't want to come work out here, which is fine with me. Though I wouldn't put anything past the truly loathsome Drew Rosenhaus.

Lest we forget, if there were an RI metacritic, Sellers would have a rating in the high '90s, probably higher than any other player on the roster. And not for nothing, either. It has been remarked up here many a time that we need more dudes like Mike Sellers on our team. So let's not act like he should be discarded because of this, which may be a non-story, though it makes for good conversation fodder. And let's not act like two bad plays in that gruesome Bengals game should determine his fate vis-a-vis roster or contract. Come on now.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 24, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I wish I had Seller's contract.


Posted by: p1funk | April 24, 2009

His contract yes, his duties, I'm thinking, not so much.

$900,000 isn't enough for me to put my mellon into the bodies of 330 DTs and insane linebackers 40-50 times a game.

And the one factor, about which none of us knows anything, is the degree to which his clubhouse leadership counts.

I'm guessing that if someone is acting up, and Sellers asks him to stop, he'll stop. Just a theory.


Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Skinsfanman,
Crabtree would most likely be BPA at 13, but there may be soem issues there and IMO its NOT a position of need. I'm convinced the wonder twins will make great strides this year. I think the Redskin's needs and value could be better met moving down to get additional picks. I would take Jenkins over Crabtree if we picked at 13. I would take Moreno over Crabtree as well...but I would really really really entertain the best offer to move back and get somebody like Larry English, Maualuga, or Clay Matthews OR Eben Britton and then load the boat with the additional picks across the Oline.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 24, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

HAIL!

Posted by: ajj123 | April 24, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Most teams have spent some time wandering in the wilderness, so I just have to be patient.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 3:24 PM

Wandering is one thing, making a permanent home there is another.

We've seen this act so often we all know it by heart: overpay for someone else's, get impatient with your own, overpay for someone else's again. Pretty tiresome.

Problem is, too many fans are equally impatient and actually encourage this dysfunctional management style.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 24, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow - a lot of cry-baby whining from players who haven't done squat.

I love Capt. Caveman. I like Soup. But neither of them have anything to hang their hat on here. And therefore no reason to complain about a dang thing, at least not to anyone who'd leak it to the media.

It's very disappointing and actually would prompt one to go ahead and move 'em now. You don't wanna be here? - there's the door. Let's get us some players who want to win. Period.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 24, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez is not gonna happen...We'll draft an O-lineman who's the nasty, find a gem at lineback later in the draft, the offense will come together, the d will be lights out, JC17 will be an all star and we'll go 14-2...yes, I'm still hammered from last night

I hope you are right my friend but I hate to break it to you this is the Snyder Redskins we are talking about. What you suggested minus the 14-2 would be great but I think it is a pipe dream as long as the Jeryua Junior is running the show.

Posted by: jayandcat | April 24, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

yeah Cork, that really worked for 'receiver, the', eh? lol.

Sellers is on the downside and if he wants to go, it's probably already too late.

That skid last season may have fully doomed this coach & team. Angling for Cutler didn't help, for SURE, but the damage may have been done already.

Zorn better have some magic up his sleeve to fix SJK this year!! Or else they're all done...

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 24, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

"Easy corky, Chill out"---Beantown

I LOVE that you've become the voice of reason, here.

Sorry. I tend to get this way when I post AFTER I've had my double shot morning expresso fix.

Look I’ve been defending Sellers, a guy I don’t know, and I just realized why. He’s a lunchpail guy who has been on the team thru thin and thin. He’s a core Redskin, But this team under Snyder doesn’t reward good deeds.
Nope, he overpays DeAngello Hall after half a salary-drive season, welcomes back with open arms Derrick Dockery who left the team in the lurch for more money, and piles a tenth of a Billion bucks on Albert Haynesworth, who’s never played a down for the Redskins.
Now the owner’s making a fool of himself over an untested one year wonder rookie—who if the skins sign him will cost $30 Mil guaranteed easy. And Sellers, who knows a little bit about blocking, won’t sniff a penny, and will continue to see the OLINE in front of him continue it’s trip downhill.
Yeah, it’s a business, but the “values” this team hes come to represent would feel more at home in Dallas.

Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh I didn't see you were still hammered, that explains it, I can't wait to do that myself b/c that is the condition I'll need to be in tomorrow.

Posted by: jayandcat | April 24, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Pay BIG MIKE, he is the MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: black42 | April 24, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Jayandcat, where's Al Michaels when you need him "DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES!?"

Posted by: ajj123 | April 24, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I have us at 10-6 so long as we draft 2 O-linemen and one DE/LB.

Posted by: kingtutts | April 24, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

just trying to keep the peace around here....no threats, suggestions of breath holding, or naps in cars in garages while the cars running...just some peace....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 24, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

"...but i do disagree with you about cooley not fitting the west coast offense seeing as how he had more catches than anyone on our team last year..."

Based on how the team finished up last year, I think that Cooly catching all those passes instead of the WR and RBs may be indicative of the problem.


Posted by: oddjob2 | April 24, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I can't argue w/ you too much there, Cork. And what gets me is, The Danny was a fan of Gibbs 1.0!

What lesson DIDN'T you learn, Dan?!

Obviously the ones about rewarding play and demanding excellence.

Keep in mind, though, that once free angency opened up, it killed the core virtues of the Gibbsian Skins...

But I do still maintain that 1) no one else in the league is lining up to sign Soup & Caveman and C) To hold the team hostage is just as bushleague or more, even, than The Danny's wastefullness.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 24, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

This team needs to concentrate on getting younger quicker faster. Not overpaying a solid but not a superstar fullback/special teams guy who is lucky the 'Skins picked him off the scrap pile a couple years ago. This team cannot afford to have 3 running backs that are overpayed. Plus where is his loyalty? he is the one under contract. I love how Redskin fans forget about our salary cap problems when it comes to fan fav's such as Sellers. Mike has been a good player I enjoy his special teams play but he is under contract!! For one of the few times I have no problem w/the FO not to redo his contract. As far as the draft NO SANCHEZ!!!!

Posted by: dph60 | April 24, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell looking like Tom Brady? Really now, what ya' been smoking, dude?

Posted by: wagman1 | April 24, 2009 2:38 PM

Awesome analysis, Wag. I guess that's the best you could do: ask what I've been "smoking". As I said, any quarterback with 5 seconds to throw in the pocket could look all-world. (And yes, EVEN Jason Campbell) Get it? Follow me, "dude"?

Posted by: therearenonamesleft | April 24, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Boldin would have been a steal for a second rounder... Damn shame

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 24, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I got shmamered last night as a preemptive strike to the draft debacle that awaits skins nation tmw.

Posted by: ajj123 | April 24, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Ummmm...Mark Rypien looked like Tom Brady in 1992 - so there is some merit to the point about a great offensive line making a QB better.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I just spoke with Doc Walker (about a business issue). We spent most of the time talking business but I did ask him what he thinks about the Sanchez rumors. Doc told me he really does not know - that there is a LOT of "smoke and mirrors" going on with all the teams and asked "why would you show your hand about what you are planning to do?" He said hopefully he will have a better sense when he talks to Vinny at 5:00 but told me not to get too hyped up about rumors.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 24, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

nice lisa.....how do you know doc??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 24, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

According to the NFL Network's Steve Wyche, if the Redskins trade up from 13 and land USC quarterback Mark Sanchez, they would then attempt to deal incumbent starting quarterback Jason Campbell to the Jets in what could be a three-team deal. A third team was not named.

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 24, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

thanks lisa - that does make this whole shabingus sound better

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Thanks JohnDin. As I said in my original post, I was only going to state the obvious. I guess there are more people than just Dan and Vinny who don't get the point about offensive line play.

Posted by: therearenonamesleft | April 24, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, Arizona has reduced their demands for receiver Boldin. Now, all they want is a 2nd rounder for him. Wow, that would be a great deal if we only had a SECOND ROUND PICK!!!!

Boldin, huge, physical explosive TD machine would be perfect compliment to Santana. Oh well, Jason Taylor was worth the 2nd that could have been

Posted by: MadeRED | April 24, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

From RI:
"Mike Sellers Unhappy About Contract; Not Participating In Voluntary Workouts";
"Redskins Agree To Terms With Punter Hunter Smith".

Dude. On the eve of Armageddon you come up with these 2 lame posts? You've got to do better than this. What are your well-placed sources telling you abou the big moves that Snyderato are going to make? The fan base is panting for skinny on the Skins and you post some drivel about a nobody punter and a fat fullback? Sheesh!

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 24, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

F*(K Snyder...F*(K Cerrato....F*(K Sanchez...and F*(K whoever likes any of those guys and their decisions!!!

Posted by: primetone | April 24, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Doc's comments made me feel a little better as he emphasized that rumors are rampant and are just rumors and his comment "why would you show your hand to everyone" makes sense.

I met Doc at Ozio's last year (on his birthday) and we have a business connection.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 24, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Eureka! I've got it!

We can give not one, not two, but THREE second-round picks to Arizona for Boldin! Their names are Devin Thomas, Fred Davis, and Malcolm Kelly.

No need to thank me, just make it happen.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 24, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, Arizona has reduced their demands for receiver Boldin. Now, all they want is a 2nd rounder for him. Wow, that would be a great deal if we only had a SECOND ROUND PICK!!!!

Boldin, huge, physical explosive TD machine would be perfect compliment to Santana. Oh well, Jason Taylor was worth the 2nd that could have been

Posted by: MadeRED | April 24, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse


The FO would totally redeem itself if they traded our 1st rounder to AZ 1st and Bolidn. Then pick up an OL man then. PErfect senario

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 24, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

The Eve of Armageddon? I can see it now - people running around the streets of D.C., wailing and beating their breasts, rending their garments as "Dirty" Sanchez is ascendent.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, Arizona has reduced their demands for receiver Boldin. Now, all they want is a 2nd rounder for him. Wow, that would be a great deal if we only had a SECOND ROUND PICK!!!!

Posted by: MadeRED | April 24, 2009 3:56 PM

Actually we do. It even has a name. Jason Campbell

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 24, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

AntonChigurh...you are absolutely right. This could very well happen too. Let's see what happens

Posted by: Broman17 | April 24, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I think Sellers was hanging with Ryan Leaf last week.....Hence the problem........Also remember when Riggo sat out a year, came back we went to 2 straight SB's.....Maybe Sellers can do the same...Just needs a mohawk and a drinking problem..............

Posted by: BingCreole | April 24, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

First...

I think Boldin would be a great weapon for Campbell or Sanchez (smile)...

Second...

I have to defend the FO on this one...The Redskins extended Mike Sellars in the offseason of last year before his contract was even up. He should shut up and play.....

of course I wouldn't say it to his face.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 24, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Can we make a rule on RI???

No more talk about the "good ole'" days...Hogs, RFK....

Those days are long gone! Joe Jacoby's not walkin' through that door...Monte Coleman ain't walkin' through that door!

It is what it is!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 24, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Mike Sellars:
Who does he think he is?
His whopping numbers think earn him a restuctured contract?

This is the same Mike Sellars who couldn't get it in the endzone at 270 lbs vs Cincy and funbled it away on the goal line.

Get to work, Mike.
You just lost my respect for you.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Boldin would have been a steal for a second rounder... Damn shame

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 24, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Boldin as a Redskin is a nice thought, but even if we had the second rounder to trade, it wouldn't work. Boldin wants a mega-deal, and we don't have the cap room to give it to him (and there are no more big contracts to re-do to create the cap room, at least not for this year). He wouldn't be any happier here than he is in Arizona.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 24, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

2-3PM tomorrow, folks! 25 % off of wacky hats at the Redskin's Store - get yours while they last!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Good Job JC, total class. JC said nothing until the right time, and now he's sticking up for himself and his supporters.

Even a guy like Danny may think twice about having a Collins, Brennan, Sanchez(any order)depth chart.

I did notice that Cooley and Campbell jersey's are ON SALE at Redskins dot com. Uh Oh?

Posted by: pabrian2003

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 24, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Can we make a rule on RI???

No more talk about the "good ole'" days...Hogs, RFK....

Those days are long gone! Joe Jacoby's not walkin' through that door...Monte Coleman ain't walkin' through that door!

It is what it is!

Posted by: rickyroge

Agreed. Unless we start doing things similar to that era we should leave it be

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 24, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez is not an upgrade, Cutler was an upgrade if Danny was able to get him. Sanchez is an unknown and a rookie, just like Campbell was his first year. Sanchez is not an upgrade, he would be a waste of a pick or, worse, picks!

Posted by: JohnWWW | April 24, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

cooley and our 3rd for Boldin.

JC17 jerseys are 70% right now.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 24, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Stafford said he was sure his agents and the Lions had been working hard, and SI.com's Peter King reported he thought the financial parameters of a deal would be done in principle by late this afternoon.

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 24, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Can we make a rule on RI???

No more talk about the "good ole'" days...Hogs, RFK....

Those days are long gone! Joe Jacoby's not walkin' through that door...Monte Coleman ain't walkin' through that door!

It is what it is!

Posted by: rickyroge

Agreed. Until we start doing things similar to that era we should leave it alone.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 24, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"He wouldn't be any happier here than he is in Arizona.

Posted by: rbpalmer"

I beg to differ. A little under-the-table agreement between he and Dan Snyder for a new contract during the uncapped season and I think Boldin would be just fine with sticking with his current salary for one more year.

Whether or not Snyder would actually live up to it is another story, but the thought of an uncapped year contract from Dan Snyder himself would make Boldin cream his pants.

Posted by: psps23 | April 24, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Being a die hard, all-in fan of the Skins at times makes one feel like a hostage. I feel like Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato are Somali Pirates who have hijacked this ship carrying precious cargo.

Posted by: MadeRED | April 24, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey geniuses that are such redskins experts... It's SELLERS not SellArs. And ask Kenoy Kennedy if he can play. Highlight for the ages.

Posted by: AdamCr | April 24, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez is not an upgrade, Cutler was an upgrade if Danny was able to get him. Sanchez is an unknown and a rookie, just like Campbell was his first year. Sanchez is not an upgrade, he would be a waste of a pick or, worse, picks!

Posted by: JohnWWW

Cutler would have been a 17-20 upgrade to a 16-20 QB. Thats 46% to 44%. It could be a downgrade after 2 more games.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 24, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

A few years ago people thought Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush were the second coming of Tom Brady and Gayle Sayers. Every year people like fans, the media, and Daniel Snyder get all smitten by the 'hot talent'.

Meanwhile real GM's stay disciplined, focused, and actually do what they are paid to do...Evaluate EVERYONE. End result, they don't reach for the hot commodity, they find the hot commodity and give him a real chance to become a star. Tom Brady was not Tom Brady when he was drafted in round 6.

Posted by: MadeRED | April 24, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

"no one complains when a team does not honor a contract and cuts a player. the players have rights to.

I guess most of you guys have not been in sales before and the ones who have should understand this.

If you are the top person or one of the top person's in your company and they pay you less than the people who do less and perform less than you than you have everyright to ask for more money.

Posted by: GreatOne1"

1) Actually, people DO complain when a player is cut before his contract runs out.

2) If a player is cut before his contract expires, he usually has to have his contract bought out, which means moolah for that poor guy.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

HONOR YOUR CONTRACT!!!!! I'm not refusing to pay my mortgage because my house is worth less than what I paid for it(though many are). If you think you're worth more now, go out and play like it, then when you renegotiate a new one you have reason to ask for more money. Anyway, you went to the Pro Bowl because there are very few true "fullbacks" in the league and your fans voted like "fanatics" for you!!!

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | April 24, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

"Based on how the team finished up last year, I think that Cooly catching all those passes instead of the WR and RBs may be indicative of the problem."

--we have alot of problems but if this team trades cooley i am going to kill myself

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 24, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Ideal Scenario A
Mauluaga in the first. Loadholt/Robinson etc. in the mid-rounds. Trade Betts for a 4th or 5th and get Michael Ray Garvin from FSU. Let Garvin battle it out with Aldrige and Dorsey (one of them is the next Sproles. We need a change of pass 3rd down back. Nothing on the d-line here, an end would be great, but we can get by for a year here. Ramses Barden (6'6" broke Jerry Rice's NCAA D-IAA records) in the 5th.

Not so Ideal Scenario
1. Trade 13 and next year's one to get Sanchez. 2. Trade Campbell to Jets for their 1st, draft Rey Mauauluga, see above scenario. This defense needs a young fiery guy like Maualuga we have to make sure to grab him...

As far as Sanchez goes, keep in mind Vinny and Danny wined and dined Kellen Winslow the same way. Winslow told them that ST21 was the heart and soul of the miami team and look who we drafted. Maybe Vinny and Danny just wanted to know the answer to that question from Sanchez. i'll bet he answered that a certain Samoan was the heart and soul of the team. Hope Rey Rey and his long hair come here.

Posted by: brian58 | April 24, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

a lot of comments here are contradicting


1) We don't pay the "True Redskins" like Mike Sellers!

Uhhh, Clinton freaking Portis, is he still the highest pay RB??


Yall want to pay Sellers for WHAT? Dan Snyder CAMPAIGNED for the dude to make the Pro Bowl, and now Sellers wants to use THAT as leverage? Gimme a break! I'm no Danny defender but come on.

And what has Sellers done besides work hard? Yeah, he can block well. He's a freaking fullback, if he couldn't he would be cut. Did he get in from the 1 yard line after two tries? Nope.

We as fans need to change our mentality. We want to extend guys like JC and Sellers and Rock Cartwright and Rocky McIntosh, but why? What have they done???


Am I the only one that wants to see a 100% rebuilding mode in the next 2 or 3 years? Let these contracts run out, Haynesworth will be around. Keep Rogers and Hall, get out all the guys we have on the team because they "work hard and have character". Take that junk somewhere else, I want a player that works hard and stomps a freaking Cowgirl in the face ala Haynesworth.


And somehow I'm gonna tie this to the draft. The player that would smash a Cowgirl is REY MAUALUGA! SIGN THAT FOOL ASAP!! I know OL is more important but REY is that dude!


also, power rankings!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

The Eve of Armageddon? I can see it now - people running around the streets of D.C., wailing and beating their breasts, rending their garments as "Dirty" Sanchez is ascendent.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 4:01 PM

Dude! You posting on wrong blog. Go to:
www.epicurious.com
where you and you fellow aesthetes can natter on endlessly about how much curry to use on chicken tandoori. Word up!

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 24, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

HONOR YOUR CONTRACT!!!!! I'm not refusing to pay my mortgage because my house is worth less than what I paid for it(though many are).

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | April 24, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The difference is that your mortgage holder won't, and legally can't, take your house as long as you live up to your end of the bargain. NFL teams constantly tell players under long term contracts to take a pay cut or take a hike. Which is why I don't get bent out of shape when players try to turn the tables.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 24, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

What? Did the word "ascendent" automatically mean that I'm some kind of foody? I have no idea what Chicken Tandoori is, much less any interest in putting Curry on it.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Snyder, Pay the man!
Note to New and Old Fans.
I hear all the time how guys should be lucky to be paid to play a game.
Football has to be the most hazzardous sport in america.
You can't play half as good as the worst player in the league so stop your whinning.
They don't pay enough for me.

Posted by: shamken | April 24, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"We as fans need to change our mentality. We want to extend guys like JC and Sellers and Rock Cartwright and Rocky McIntosh, but why? What have they done???"


just to clarify, I don't wanna come off as saying they aren't good and/or they should be cut or traded or whatever.

I'm just saying we haven't won with them, period. Could JC have been better in a better situation (stable coaching staff, better OL, better WR, etc) ABSOLUTELY. And I think it's just gonna be unfortunate that JC didn't overcome all the stuff, but it would've been pretty tough to overcome. Not a knock on the guy, I just don't think it was right from the start for him in Washington. Maybe I'm wrong.

My point is I want fresh faces but I want young, fresh faces and I want young, talented fresh faces that we sign for multiyear deals. That's it. I see some of it on the roser.

The thing is, say last year was the start and we keep who we got last year, we're DEPENDING on those three pass catchers to step up. If all three live up to potential, that's one helluva start. Maybe move Santana for a first rounder, ARE for a 4th or whatever he could possibly get. Cooley and Big Sleepy for 5+ years, DT and Kelley for 10 years (or before we have a Boldin\Fitz dilemma). The most pressure right now is on them.


/random thoughts

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I love chicken tandoori

Indian food > most

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

So, given your random thoughts Truth, you're all for a couple of definite rebuilding years?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"Busy morning. The Patriots are trying to move up into the top 10 of the draft -- but low in the top 10. Executives from two teams tell me New England offered its first-round pick and middle of three second-round picks (the 23rd and 47th picks overall) to Jacksonville for the eighth pick in the draft. Jacksonville GM Gene Smith, I'm told, said no ... but I also hear the Patriots might be looking to Green Bay at nine to move as well."


from Peter King, Patriots looking to trade #23 and #47 to move up to #8/#9 overall. #8 JAX said no, now they're going after whoever #9 is. Any chance the guy they want drops to #13?

This could be a possibility and it would be great, we could get Mack at #23 and then a very good LB at #47, or another good OL prospect.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

What Sellers does is help to hide the problems in your Offensive Line and catch short passes in the end zone where he doesn't have to run or get tackled after the catch. They stopped using him in the red zone passing game last year so he did even less. Whoever said they picked him off a the scrap heap is absolutely right. The reason he was on the scrap heap was questionable character, which he turned around and grew up, and questionable hands, which he has never grown out of. Check his stats, touches VS fumbles. I think you will see why he shuld be happy he has a job, and stop screaming for them to use him more during the year. He is a great story turning his life and carreer around, but he is a lucky lucky man and has no right to complain.

As far as I can see Campbell is in the same boat. he has done nothing worthy of being upset that after 4 years the team is looking to upgrade. i don't like Sanchez and I think there will be much better options next draft, so I say he gets one more year, but if they do draft a QB, he should just shut up and prove why they didn't need to, or raise his value to his next team. Note to Jason - nobody wanted to give us a 2nd round pick for you, so maybe your value isn't that high right now.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | April 24, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Not so Ideal Scenario
1. Trade 13 and next year's one to get Sanchez. 2. Trade Campbell to Jets for their 1st, draft Rey Mauauluga, see above scenario. This defense needs a young fiery guy like Maualuga we have to make sure to grab him...

------------------------------------------

No matter what happens tomorrow, the Jets will not be giving up their first round draft pick for Jason Campbell. Thats a promise.

Posted by: kingtutts | April 24, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

HONOR YOUR CONTRACT!!!!! I'm not refusing to pay my mortgage because my house is worth less than what I paid for it(though many are).

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | April 24, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The difference is that your mortgage holder won't, and legally can't, take your house as long as you live up to your end of the bargain. NFL teams constantly tell players under long term contracts to take a pay cut or take a hike. Which is why I don't get bent out of shape when players try to turn the tables.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 24, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Look, a contract is a contract. Your people get with my people, WE AGREE ON SOMETHING, and we sign. Owners can terminate the contract anytime, THAT'S WHY YOU GET THE HIGHEST SIGNING BONUS YOU CAN!!! And I notice you didn't dispute his reason for making the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | April 24, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"So, given your random thoughts Truth, you're all for a couple of definite rebuilding years?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston "

Absolutely. For all we know we could be at the very start of some rebuilding years.

And note that none of this has to do with Sanchez, I'm talking in general long term, nothing too specific. The thing is, we have to let guys go. Guys that I like and you like and guys that are good and could probably finish their career here. Here's something random and that I haven't thought through, why not trade Samuels for an early first rounder if possible. It might be tough to get but if a team thinks they are one piece away, that's a legit LT for the next 2 or 3 years who can play at a high level.

Then we could draft a younger OT. It's a risk but you gotta take 'em at some point. Again, I'm not saying we should do this or anything bad about Samuels, he's the man, but I just want to see out with the old in with the new. And I want to see talented guys brought in all around. The D is young enough right now, we could get rid of some of the older pieces.

Hell, if we could trade Samuels for a 1st and maybe a 4th, then Fletcher for a 1) 1st and 5th or 2) 2nd and 4th, I would even be for that.

I'm down with stockpiling draft picks and basically saying that we're rebuilding.


But then I'm not taking into affect WHO we have in charge of rebuilding, so it might be impossible.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 24, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

it's not really a binding contract if the owners can cancel it whenever they want. If the team can cancel the contract, why shouldn't the player be able to... I have a feeling this will be a moot point after then next bargaining agreement. This and rookie contracts are the two big issues that keep coming up between the owners and players.

Posted by: COskins | April 24, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Well put, Mr. Truth

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 24, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"Note to Jason - nobody wanted to give us a 2nd round pick for you, so maybe your value isn't that high right now."

Note to dbrine - regardless of what world you live in that you've fathomed a report that says the Redskins have been rejected in their overtures for a 2nd round draft pick for Campbell, I'm pretty sure Campbell doesn't care in the least even IF his value isn't high. All he cares about is being a part of a team that's going to give him a fair shot at succeeding, not one that's going to pull the rug out from underneath him every time he sets his feet in the freshly pointed direction the franchise impulsively turns to.

It's going to be interesting to see how the Campbell haters react when Sanchez (if he gets drafted here) struggles in Bill Cowher's system after Jim Zorn gets fired because Zorn couldn't win without a starting QB (or even worse, if Bill Cowher tosses Sanchez aside because Sanchez's isn't "his guy", a la Brady Quinn and the Mangenius in Cleveland right now).

Posted by: psps23 | April 24, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

USC suspends Sanchez after sexual assault arrestEmail Print Share Associated Press

LOS ANGELES -- Southern California backup quarterback Mark Sanchez was released from jail early Thursday following his arrest for investigation of sexually assaulting a female student, authorities said.

Sanchez, 19, was released shortly after midnight after posting $200,000 bail, said Los Angeles County sheriff's Deputy Ban Nguyen.

He was arrested around 4 p.m. Wednesday at an apartment complex near campus, Los Angeles police Officer Jason Lee said. No other details were immediately available.

USC officials said they will temporarily suspend Sanchez while police conduct their investigation.

"The university takes charges of sexual assault seriously," Michael Jackson, USC vice president of student affairs, said in a statement. "Depending on the facts as established by the LAPD, we will determine the appropriate action. In the interim, the student will be placed on interim suspension while the case is pending."

USC coach Pete Carroll said he was aware of Sanchez's arrest and that the Trojan football program would cooperate with police and "follow along with whatever action the university takes."

Sanchez is listed on the Trojans' depth chart as the backup to John David Booty, but was expected to battle for the starting job this fall. Booty practiced only once this spring before he injured his back and had to undergo surgery.

Sanchez, a redshirt freshman, played the recent spring scrimmage and has been practicing with the first unit.

His arrest was one of several off-field problems for USC within the last year. However, no charges were brought in the other cases

Posted by: Tyler84101 | April 24, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

shut the hell up, stop causing issues on your team, play your ass off until it's time to sign a new contract
Posted by: bnc211

I LOVE those brave warriors here, who, protected by anonymity and electrons suggest that Mike Sellers “shut the hell up.” Just hilarious. Don’t write it, guy. Seek him out and tell him to his face. We’ll visit you in the hospital. Honest.

Posted by: TheCork

I just don't see Sellers being worth more than the $1 mil /year that he's currently making. He goes to the Pro Bowl and all of the sudden the contract he signed 2 years ago should be reworked? I don't think so. Yes, it's true that the team has the upper hand when it comes to contracts and I agree that a player who is getting drastically underpaid after outperforming their respective counterparts has the right to ask for more money, but not 2 years after signing your contract. That's crap.

BTW, I live about half a mile from the park. I'll stop by on my way home and tell him myself. I know I can run faster than he can.

Posted by: bnc211 | April 24, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Criminey...I'm seeing to many late mocks showing us grabbing Maybin or Ayers.

That would suck, IMO. Both are one year wonders...Maybin is a skinny kid, and Ayers was a slacker until he was a senior and figured out he wanted to get paid next year.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 24, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Sellers is asking for a raise and he is doing it the right way at the right time.

It seems we can't afford to give him a raise this year, so suit up when the time is right (training camp or pre-season).

Good luck Mike

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 24, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Hawaii boy says: trade his ass!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | April 24, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The more I consider this...the more I think Malcom Jenkins would be a great pick to come in and start at FS.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 24, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Look, a contract is a contract. Your people get with my people, WE AGREE ON SOMETHING, and we sign. Owners can terminate the contract anytime, THAT'S WHY YOU GET THE HIGHEST SIGNING BONUS YOU CAN!!! And I notice you didn't dispute his reason for making the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | April 24, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I generally agree with you that people should live up to the terms of their contracts. I would just point out that, so far, the only thing that Sellers has missed have been VOLUNTARY workouts. Since his main issue appears to be money, I don't think that he'll be holding out and getting fined once training camp starts in late July. And given the circumstances, I don't blame him for trying to get his deal re-done.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 24, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

"Hawaii boy says: trade his ass!"

I love our trading skillz as well...If we were even going to try and trade Big Mike (insane idea) we would probably only get a third round pick...if he played for someone else they would be able to get a 2nd, 3rd and 5th pick for him...

Tyler84101,
I bet Danny boy would let Sanchez sexually assault him...which is kinda what is gonna happen since Sanchez is going to rape us for all of our draft picks...

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 24, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Blocking FBs are only going to get so much money, so Sellers can't be asking for much more. He does have some leverage though, as there is nobody else on the roster that is even adequate as a lead blocker. I think the Eagles beat them to get Weaver. They haven't had much luck drafting FBs, but I expect them to try again with one of the late picks.

When I look at the trade-up situation I see KC sitting there at #3 needing a wideout to play opposite Bowe, a DT (even if Dorsey improves), and now a tight end since Gonzalez is gone. As luck would have it the skins have some players they could trade that KC might want, and they wouldn't be cap-damaging to trade. They would be Davis (TE), Thomas (WR), and Golston and Montgomery (DTs). The skins could live without them, although they'd want to keep one of the DTs for depth. I can easily see one of two of these guys being packaged.

Posted by: sysadb420 | April 24, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

does he deserve a raise? yes, but dont get too crazy he aint even better than the giants fullback, and he's good but not as good as he thinks. a poormans brian mitchell

Posted by: jahliajahmel | April 24, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I generally agree with you that people should live up to the terms of their contracts. I would just point out that, so far, the only thing that Sellers has missed have been VOLUNTARY workouts. Since his main issue appears to be money, I don't think that he'll be holding out and getting fined once training camp starts in late July. And given the circumstances, I don't blame him for trying to get his deal re-done.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 24, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree. I also think the media makes WAY to big a deal of missing voluntary workouts. They're voluntary for a reason. It sucks when an important position player doesn't go but it's not a big deal that Mr. Sellars isn't going.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | April 24, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Why do I feel like Monday will be a crappy day in Redskin land? They could leave the weekend with a rookie as the starting QB and no depth on offensive line, defensive line, and linebacker. Our only hope is that Vinny and the Dan get trapped in an elevator for the entire weekend and Zorn gets to run the draft.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 24, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Excellent interview by Doc Walker!!!

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 24, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I live about half a mile from the park. I'll stop by on my way home and tell him myself. I know I can run faster than he can.

Posted by: bnc211 | April 24, 2009 5:02 PM

Idle threat, pu$$y. He's not at the park, because he's "Unhappy about Contract; Not Participating in Voluntary Workout"

Posted by: mack1 | April 24, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

But it seems this relationship between the Skins and Campbell cannot be repaired now. He's fed up, he doesn't want to play here anymore after the way they treated him.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 24, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Doc has been interviewing Snyder, Cerrato, and Zorn for the last 45 minutes....I missed some of it walking home but it is EXCELLENT! Doc is asking all the questions - not really getting all the answers but he has not been bashful.

Doc did just ask Snyder about the rumors of us trading away next years #1 and he said that is not going to happen and that they have already stated that.

Vinny said our true needs are O line, D line, and linebacker. Zorn said there will be 4 QBs in camp - he always wants 4 QBs in camp - although he is not sure where the 4th will come from (the draft or free agency).

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 24, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Yep..Im listeninh on the web, but still dont feel like the Dannys truthful at all

Posted by: Tyler84101 | April 24, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

And now Czaban is saying that of course Snyder is saying he will not trade next years #1 because it is the day before the draft and he does not want to show his hand....is posturing.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 24, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Great interview! I think Snyder should do one or two more of these. What he says made sense even if what he does doesn't.

I feel a bit better.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 24, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Anywhere I can find this interview being transcribed on to the Web?

~ Thanks

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 24, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Anywhere I can find this interview being transcribed on to the Web?

~ Thanks

Posted by: chasgiffen

Chas, it will probably be posted on espn980.com later.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 24, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Vinny on a half hour special with

Vinny, George Michael, and Doc Walker on Ch. 5 NOW.....

Will last half hour

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 24, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

You can listen to the ESPN 980 podcast here:

http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=427&f=25091

Posted by: siris | April 24, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Snyder and Zorn said the Skins signed an OT to compete with Jansen and Heyer today.

I wonder who???

Posted by: siris | April 24, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Snyder and Zorn said the Skins signed an OT to compete with Jansen and Heyer today.

I wonder who???

Posted by: siris

This is the Insider I am sure it will posted in a sec now. Oh I forgot childish little war between JLC and Vinny there is no inside information.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | April 24, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

The tackle they signed was Mike Williams, the former bust from Texas and the Bills

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 24, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

This appears to be booboo lip season. Mike's a good guy and a good FB. Being All-Pro at that position is like being a special teams ace. It's replaceable.

Play hard, Mike. Good luck on getting your money.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for those answers...

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 24, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Cut his ass!!!

Posted by: thorhero | April 24, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

SELLERS has become alot more TALK than PERFORMANCE....he's expendable

Posted by: unc1dmo | April 24, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

It's going to be interesting to see how the Campbell haters react when Sanchez (if he gets drafted here) struggles in Bill Cowher's system after Jim Zorn gets fired because Zorn couldn't win without a starting QB (or even worse, if Bill Cowher tosses Sanchez aside because Sanchez's isn't "his guy", a la Brady Quinn and the Mangenius in Cleveland right now).

Posted by: psps23

What a spineless, queer bait, no nuts, wavering b!tch you are. You had been debating this topic taking the exact opposite position in another thread. You're a pathetic loser. Get a real life, you coward.

Posted by: all_star_0013 | April 24, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Ok here's my new option........Skins draf Rey Maualugat......... Trade JC for extra picks and pick up Josh Freeman from MU....If we can't protect our QB let's have one that can elude one just like Vick but without the dog fighting......I find no issuse with cock fighting..Biggest cock wins............

Posted by: BingCreole | April 24, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey you guys think you have all the answers on jc17 if given time & patience as our little midget owner says he is being patient give jc17 this season if he doesn't pan out then start to groom colt or look elsewhere but geez give the guy a break 2nd full season in a offense w/o someone getting fired or cut ok lil dan-o can you have patience with this organization and stay away & do owner stuff and let us get our shine on!!!Hail REDSKINS HAIL!!!

Posted by: ynottonyp2003 | April 25, 2009 5:42 AM | Report abuse

They've gotta throw Sellars a bone! He's been awesome. He's a physical FB and a ferocious lead blocker on a team that depends on the run behind an O line that gets dominated.

Without Sellars, CP goes no more than 60 yards a game.

Hmmm . . . UNLESS, they DRAFT a mean, big, nasty FB that knocks people out.

Posted by: heyjoe728 | April 25, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

like sellers but now he will go the way like bmitchell did because of his mouth. great player bmitchell but did not learn you do not dis the owner.

Posted by: rls1041 | April 25, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Trade him for a second rounder...We can pick up a better fullback..

Posted by: hanimal03 | April 25, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

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