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Cooley has high hopes for TEs in Shanahan's system

Redskins tight end Chris Cooley was doing a radio interview when his phone started buzzing Wednesday afternoon at the Super Bowl media center in south Florida. It was the Redskins' main number, but because he was on the air, he couldn't take the call. Turns out it was Jon Embree, Washington's new tight ends coach, who was calling to introduce himself.

Cooley has met with Mike Shanahan and says he's excited about being a part of the new offense. He grew up cheering for the Denver Broncos and is very familiar with what the tight end means in Shanahan's system.

"Shannon Sharpe was really the guy that revolutionized the position, him and Tony Gonzalez," Cooley said. "They were guys that really started to move around, do a lot of different things. I feel like that's the type of player I am, and I feel like that's the type of guy I was really becoming in Joe Gibbs' offense. So I'm excited to get back to that."

One of the big offseason debates for Redskins' fans has surrounded the tight end position. When Cooley went on injured reserve, Fred Davis was impressive, prompting some to think that one of the two tight ends might be expendable. It's not comfortable talk for Cooley.


"I think there's been a lot of trade rumors around D.C. - not necessarily around Redskins Park - but just D.C. and talk radio. It's nonsense," Cooley said. "It's awkward for me because since I've been here, I've had nothing but great things said about me from our fans. I've worked real hard to become what I've become. So it's tough when
someone says, 'We need linemen, who can we trade? Let's trade Chris.' It's like, come on...

"[Washington] is a place I want to spend my whole career. I don't have any intention of ever leaving."

Cooley is planning on sticking around Miami through the weekend and taking in his first Super Bowl on Sunday from the stands. The next time he's at the game, he'd prefer to be on the field, wearing a Redskins jersey.

By Rick Maese  |  February 3, 2010; 3:24 PM ET
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Cooley and Davis will shine in Shanahan's system. Even more so with a weak OL that will take time to be build. Look for Captain Chaos to have a huge 2010 in the Burgundy & Gold.

Oh and first.

Posted by: redskinssince96 | February 3, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Repost:

Sween -

I said:

"I want three RB's that are actually good RB's - not ST hold on's. That way, we have some variety, and if we get somebody hurt, we can still get the job done."

Where do you see me talking about developing a RB? I agree RB's develop quickly. But I still think this team would have been way better off with a true Rb instead of Rock.

You make it sound like ST's are hard.

They aren't.

They are what you play while you are learning the hard stuff - like being a starter on O or D. I think a player has the term of one contract to look like a starter or see ya. Otherwise, you get stuck with a roster full of mediocre players that nobody is afraid of. Sound like any team you can think of lately?

Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to see them use both.

It seems to be a mismatch made in hog heaven.

But if you're going to trade one, Davis has better value... so do that. Pick a n00b when you get the chance - prolly not this year.

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 3, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

well we ran through the oldie but goodie CP debate, now onto trade cooley....just rev up to a fever pitch on Friday's JC trash or treasure free for all....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 3, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

You know, dlhaze...

I come back to the blog for the witty, clever posters, not for the foolios who make anti-gay, anti-women, "jokes" and then hide behind the guise of being "funny."

and cause me to want no part of it all.

This blog can be both wonderfully entertaining and also extremely debasing, juvenile, and personally offensive all at once.

and cL, I know Nate has a high opinion of you, and perhaps you and I will get to meet in person one day...

until then keep on keepin on and I offer you, cL, and yours my most sincere regards.


Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

This blog can be both wonderfully entertaining and also extremely debasing, juvenile, and offensive all at once.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 3:43 PM

Can and will! [Also, your remark about the blog is how I feel sometimes when I look in the mirror.]

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Keep Cooley and Davis, a little Shake and Bake, A little stop and pop, a little wine and dine, a little rope a dope, with some cheese on it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 3, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"So it's tough when someone says, 'We need linemen, who can we trade? Let's trade Chris.' It's like, come on..."

"[Washington] is a place I want to spend my whole career. I don't have any intention of ever leaving."


Based on this, you could say that Cooley reads Redskins Insider.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

kinda like life, Chia... embrace it all.

All gourmet comes out the same place, yknow?

huhuhuhuh... shuddup, Beavis..

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 3, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"Fred Davis was impressive"

wait, what happened to "giggled during meetings", and "overslept 2 years ago"...I was under the impression you couldn't mention Davis without mentioning those things as well???

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 3, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

To show you guys I can and have evolved.....I am no longer on the TRADE Chris Cooooley BAndwagon....

Cooley wasn't a true TE in the 1st place....I would make Cooooley my #1 'pass-catcher' in any role....including H-Back/Tight End/Full Back/Slot/Split End/Flanker/Etc.....

And Sleepy can be the #1 overall TE....That will last for us atleast 2 years....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"Shannon Sharpe was really the guy that revolutionized the position, him and Tony Gonzalez," Cooley said.

I guess he's never watched tape of Kellen Winslow.

And didn't St Joe use his t-ends in non-traditional ways, too?

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 3, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

well we ran through the oldie but goodie CP debate, now onto trade cooley ...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 3, 2010 3:46 PM

No time for that, not with Priest Holmes avaiable out there in free agency ...

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Are you serious? Are you on crack? Hell yea keep Cooley.What kind of dumb *ss question is that?Oh yea and keep Davis too.

Posted by: xpac69 | February 3, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, skins are gonna destroy over the middle, but only if Fred Davis stops trying to jump/hurdle over everyone. WTF is that by the way?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 3, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I am no longer on the TRADE Chris Cooooley BAndwagon ...

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 3:50 PM

... yeah, but would you ever dare to wear a Cooley jersey?

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

You know, dlhaze...
I come back to the blog for the witty, clever posters, not for the foolios who make anti-gay, anti-women, "jokes" and then hide behind the guise of being "funny."
and cause me to want no part of it all.
This blog can be both wonderfully entertaining and also extremely debasing, juvenile, and offensive all at once.
Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 3:43 PM

You forgot to add anti-Chia jokes……Red nailed it on the head; if it’s offensive to you, it’s just wrong, even if others find humor in it and can see that it is a JOKE. I agree that “This blog can be both wonderfully entertaining and also extremely debasing, juvenile, and offensive all at once.”….except for the offensive part. I myself have never been offended by anything up here. Maybe that's just you.

And since you are so holy….what’s with the “foolio” comment? That a racist shot at Red?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 3, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

"Meet in person one day"?

"Most sincerest regards"?

cL, I think you have an admirer... maybe he'll draw you up one of those cute ASCII drawing of a rose, heart, or a dove...

Wow....

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I can remember folks comin' down HARD on the trade CC sentiments [reference SIGN CHRIS COOLEY]. It made more sense then than now. You won't get much for him now unless you're somehow putting one over... and we can't trade w/ ourselves!

...dohp!

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 3, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

K Winslow is a prima donna little b*tch who couldn't block his mother.

Posted by: xpac69 | February 3, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Cooley should go back and watch tape on Kellen Winslow, Sr. and Jerry Smith.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 3, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

chia_pet

"This blog can be both wonderfully entertaining and also extremely debasing, juvenile, and offensive all at once."


You are aware that that's how most folks describe 'drunk sex'.

What brings the best sex?

weed

coke

booze

porn

Moe goes with all three.

Especially if he's by himself.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 3, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

kinda like life, Chia... embrace it all.

All gourmet comes out the same place, yknow?

huhuhuhuh... shuddup, Beavis..

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 3, 2010 3:49 PM

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No thanks, Dik.

Incidentally, you're one of the posters whom I appreciate.

True, it takes all types to make the great wheel of life spin, but I'm averse to the toxicity that spews from some folks, and at some point, I'd prefer to get off the carousel.

and just because the carnival is in town, doesn't mean I'm buying a ticket to the freak show...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

but only if Fred Davis stops trying to jump/hurdle over everyone. WTF is that by the way?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 3, 2010 3:53 PM

Its not jumping or hurdling. He just jumps up in the air every time he catches. Kind of like Turrettes Syndrome ... in the legs ... without the swearing. Its just what he does.

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Cooley reads Redskins Insider.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 3:49 PM

He's a talk radio guy.

Only ones reading RI are guys sitting at their desks in somebody's office, getting paid for the work they're supposed to be doing on the other screen. Also, pizza deliverers looking up addresses on Google maps.

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

yeah, but would you ever dare to wear a Cooley jersey?

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 3:54 PM

(**About to charter controversial territory**)

Have you seen ANY black guy wear a Chris Cooley Jersey?

Just asking. I think I may have...all of Once.....

(And My answer would be no...only because we don't fit well personality wise)

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: xpac69 | February 3, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Believe he was talking about K. Winslow, Sr.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | February 3, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Chia_Pet - there's a difference between leading by example and pushing your morals and standards down some elses throat.

Maybe you should chill out until you can tell the difference between the two.

This is a public forum. Yeah, it would be nice if some would exercise a little restraint every once in a while, but that's just part of the flavor.

Sometimes, it's more annoying to listen to your brittle whining than the actual offense.

Personally, I think it's pretty offensive that anyone on this blog, besides the paid moderators, would ever try to tell anyone else on this blog what they can and cannot say on here.

If it's not to your liking, vote with your feet, not your keyboard.

Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Don't make much difference who you have at tight end so long as you have such a worthless dickweed as JC17 taking the snaps.

Posted by: Vic1 | February 3, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

hey red, it's called the shabingus.

I missed the last one at the Nats game, but hope to be in attendance for the next one.

Maybe you'll be there?

I'll buy you a beer and we can bury the hatchet.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

catching up on the Deacon Jones post. Great trivia question.

How many points did Deacon Jones score in his career?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

oh my bad. I thought he was talking about junior. senior was nasty,probably the best tight end ever.

Posted by: xpac69 | February 3, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Its getting to be Didier time"

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 3, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

jc17 isn't that bad the o-line just sucked b*lls.

Posted by: xpac69 | February 3, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Damn, some of you dudes are dense.

I get it, though.

People are gross. Let's all roll around in the poop.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

dl, he called me a "thug" (which is the new-age 'N' word for the white folk) a few threads back, despite knowing a damn thing about me...

Wait a minute, he does. He listed what type of place I stay, what I do for a living, and a situation when I bagged this one chick.

Seriously, chris larry, if I'm you "meeting in person" is the last thing I'd do with, ol' dude. He's the type of dude that you'll have over to watch a football game with your homies, ask if he could use your bathroom, and then find in your bedroom sniffing your boxers.

Prolly the dirty ones at that.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

"Shannon Sharpe was really the guy that revolutionized the position, him and Tony Gonzalez," Cooley said.

I guess he's never watched tape of Kellen Winslow.

And didn't St Joe use his t-ends in non-traditional ways, too?

Posted by: MistaMoe

More trivia.

Sharpe set the record for TD catches by a TE in 2002, then Gonzales broke it a few years later.

Who held the record before Sharpe?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, skins are gonna destroy over the middle, but only if Fred Davis stops trying to jump/hurdle over everyone. WTF is that by the way?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 3, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Prolly learned it from watching BMS...and hey, he went to the pro bowl, so it must a be a good move.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 3, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Don't make much difference what sort of wide receivers you have so long as JC17 is taking the snaps.

Posted by: Vic1 | February 2, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Don't make much difference who you have at tight end so long as you have such a worthless dickweed as JC17 taking the snaps.

Posted by: Vic1 | February 3, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse
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Thanks Vic, for your daily 4:00 report!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 3, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

but only if Fred Davis stops trying to jump/hurdle over everyone. WTF is that by the way?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 3, 2010 3:53 PM

he's trying to emulate his hero. OJ running through the airports in the commercials.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | February 3, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

enough of this race card bs,blacks use the n word alot,they just take the er off and replace it with an a.

Posted by: xpac69 | February 3, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Jerry Smith?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 3, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

welcome to sanity 4th! (re: not trading cooley or davis..)

chia man, you are hardened clay right? i wouldn't want you shatter if you ever fell off that high horse...

Red is just a colorful user of cuss words, like my pops...sometimes as my brother and I would be getting scolded we would look at each other and say "wow did he just say that?!"...and he likes to scrap. Whats the big deal? He is often funny, regularly crude, speaks his own mind and I am pretty sure has his tongue firmly in cheek most of the time...

You, cork and others that go out of your wat to take his spiel at face value are just being clowned...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 3, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

ROFLMMFAO @ Reds.....

But I do agree that 'some' people do use 'Thug' as the new code word........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

How the heck is responding to a provocative post trying to shove my morals and standards down someone else's throat?

Last time I checked, if you walk up to a person and insult him, you expect to be checked.

Now, my morals and standards have nothing to do with yours edvar, that much is apparent.

and to each his own.

but for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: xpac69 | February 3, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

you really want to start that discussion now????

why don't we talk about how you came up with that handle.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | February 3, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

but for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:07 PM

Not really. In your case it may be opposite, but it's nowhere near equal. You keep coming back, baiting, playing the fool, then whining. Let. it. go.

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

but only if Fred Davis stops trying to jump/hurdle over everyone. WTF is that by the way?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 3, 2010 3:53 PM

he's trying to emulate his hero. OJ running through the airports in the commercials.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | February 3, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

haha, nice. But seriously, I hope he stops all that mess. It's a FF waiting to happen every time. CC and new TE coach should fix that.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 3, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Who held the record before Sharpe?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse
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My Google-Fu less answer is Mark Chmura. I'm not even sure if that's his name, but I'm thinking of the big Giants TE back in the 90s

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 3, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Hmm... shabingus... Nats game... early April in DC... this could happen...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Jerry Smith?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe

Correct. Smith held the record for TDs by a TE for about 30 years -- he had 60 in his career. Sharpe broke Smith's record with -- 62 TDs. As of now, Smith still has more TD receptions than ANY tight end in the HOF.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

It's remarkable how the debasers always rule the day.

The street is clean until one person litters, and then the next, and the next.

and it's someone else's job to clean it up.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Ok, Google correction, Mark Bavaro is who I was thinking of, and he apparently is not the correct answer.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 3, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Zeron Flemister...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 3, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

How the heck is responding to a provocative post trying to shove my morals and standards down someone else's throat?
Last time I checked, if you walk up to a person and insult him, you expect to be checked.
Now, my morals and standards have nothing to do with yours edvar, that much is apparent.
and to each his own.
but for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:07 PM |

Because you don’t just respond in one post….you do it 12 times, all the while claiming that these “insults” don’t bother you and that you are a better person than the rest of us because your beliefs are right/better. That you are just “responding” or “standing up to bullies”. And through it all you end up throwing out some pretty “classless” words (not curse words, I get that) intended to insult those you are aiming at. I will say the one thing that most sanctimonious folks I know really get bothered by when they feel that they are so much holier than everyone else:

You

Are

A

HYPOCRITE.

Go back and read everything you have posted over the last few days. You’re a hypocrite. PERIOD.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 3, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Chia, my point is that you have no business telling Red - or anyone else for that matter, what is acceptable to post here - or where you think the boundaries are, regardless of if it offends you or not. We have paid moderators for that.

Of course you can challenge a posting, but don't go making up rules for the rest of us based on your values.

...And you know nothing of my morals or standards, so don't even.

Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

My Google-Fu less answer is Mark Chmura. I'm not even sure if that's his name, but I'm thinking of the big Giants TE back in the 90s

Posted by: mattsoundworld

You're thinking of bavaro. Chmura, who really needed to buy a vowel, played for Green Bay

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Just FYI, chia: All this started over FARTEZ DUDMORE posting a ASCII "finger" AT ME, then me telling the dude that I use that same finger on HIS moms, HIS sister, or both, I can't really remember.

Basically put, it had SH*T to do with you but then you want to go and take shots at me for because of the way I got back at him for doing what he did.

You can't be serious, and you with you keeping on with trying to defend your position on this is just getting tried, dumb, and lame.

All you had to do was just let me and the dude Dudmore carry it out. What's funny is that HE DIDN'T take offense to it NEARLY as mush as you -- and I wasn't talking to your ass in the FIRST place!

Whatever, man. F_ck off! Go toot your self-righteous horn in someone else's ear.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, I'm outnumbered, League Source.

and as Cork pointed out, the back and forth, the dynamic you profess to not be a part of is what characterizes this blog.

why are you calling me out when everybody does the same thing, more or less?

hey, I have no problem with not being well liked on da blog, but you League Source, are a hypocrite.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Hmm... shabingus... Nats game... early April in DC... this could happen...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2010 4:14 PM

With an on-time 4th...This time.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Basically put, it had SH*T to do with you but then you want to go and take shots at me for because of the way I got back at him for doing what he did.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:19 PM

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Exactly.

AND YOU COULDN'T TAKE IT!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Chris Johnson = Clinton Portis???

Fisher told team 2,000-yard mark was more important than win
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 3, 2010 4:00 PM ET
Well, Chris Johnson found out he won the FedEx Ground Player of the Year award.

And despite the antiseptic atmosphere at these shindigs, he provided an interesting tidbit about his quest for 2,000 rushing yards in Week Seventeen against Seattle.

"I don't know if [Jeff Fisher] wants me to say this, but the whole gameplan was me getting 2,000 yards," Johnson said Wednesday, wearing a cardigan sweater and plaid shirt.

"He had a meeting with the whole team and he told us that we don't have a chance to make the playoffs, so us winning the game really don't matter. So if it causes us to lose the game to get 2,000 yards, then we'll do that it. . . . So I give a lot of credit to Jeff Fisher."

No, Fisher probably wouldn't want Johnson saying that. But it only confirms what anyone watching the game knew. The Titans didn't seem that concerned about winning.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Moe goes with all three.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 3, 2010 3:55 PM

I'm a little slow with the maths ... you listed four things ... and I'm thinking I might want to have best drunk sex tonight ... so I need a little guidance such as

Also, 4th on the Cooley jersey and controversial territory ... I edited before I posted because, well, DUH! Of the current roster, what other white guys are peeps going to get excited about? Rabach? The kicker or punter? Chad Reinhart (he's so cool, and he could be successful white guy ... let's call him RHINO!)? Jason Taylor was just too confusing (kind of like Thrash). All of this explains why I root for the jersey and not the guy ... not that I would ever give The Owner a dime for merchandise ... actually, scratch that, there are guys I root for, just not D. Hall and maybe not Devin Thomas. Everybody else, I root for. [Whether I root for Portis varies depending on the day and what he's done for me lately.]

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

With an on-time 4th...This time.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 4:20 PM

Good thing you were late last time. There was a plan to leave you with the bar tab. Not for everyone, just for Jason LaCanfora -- which was about a week's wages.

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"So it's tough when someone says, 'We need linemen, who can we trade? Let's trade Chris.' It's like, come on..."

"[Washington] is a place I want to spend my whole career. I don't have any intention of ever leaving."

Yo, Chris, it's not like Shanny is going to listen to any of the doofuses (doofi?) who post on this blog in making his personnel decisions. Gawd, at least I hope not.

Posted by: rbpalmer | February 3, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Seriously...why don't we use Cooley as the FB/H-Back and Davis as the true TE?

Cooley has shown a much better ability to block in recent years...it would be a great opportunity to have both in the game at the same time without utilizing 2 TE sets...

Still want CP gone. Such a cancer to this team...

Posted by: dglelite | February 3, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

"Smith held the record for TDs by a TE for about 30 years -- he had 60 in his career. Sharpe broke Smith's record with -- 62 TDs. As of now, Smith still has more TD receptions than ANY tight end in the HOF."


This amazes as the guy set the record long before the pass days we live in now.

I take my hat off to him.

That's some good stuff.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 3, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Basically put, it had SH*T to do with you but then you want to go and take shots at me for because of the way I got back at him for doing what he did.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:19 PM

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Exactly.

AND YOU COULDN'T TAKE IT!

Posted by: Chia_Pet

Couldn't take what? Why are you dipping in sh*t that don't concern you? Does what I eat make you sh*t?

What are you talking about? Seriously, WHAT THE F_CK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!?!?!

You're fuc_ing stupid! I may be crazy, but you're certifiably insane.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

".. goes with all three.."


That's stoner math for you.

1 bag plus 1 bag equals 1 big party, not 2 reasons to miss work.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 3, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Hmm... shabingus... Nats game... early April in DC... this could happen...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2010 4:14 PM

Should be good timing. The [anywhere from 1 to 3 FEET of snow we get this weekend], followed by the [potential for another similar sized storm Tuesday-ish next week], should finish melting right around then.
I imagine we'll all be quite anxious to get out of the house.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 3, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

all right I'm done with this edvar.

my goal is not to be the blog cop.

me and Red have a back and forth going on.

we attack and counter attack.

he riles me up when he goes for the low blows and the cheap shots.

he got under my skin a long time ago with that nonsense, and like I said, personally, I don't see the humor in it.

you all act like no one has ever done the same to you.

and accuse me of being on a high horse because I choose to defend myself against those ad hominem attacks.

which, incidentally go against the rules (not my rules) of the blog.

so whateves to all of you...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I can appreciate the honesty Sweeny....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

... Johnson said Wednesday, wearing a cardigan sweater and plaid shirt. ...

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 4:25 PM

WTF !!! How are we supposed to keep our ignorance, prejudices, and stereotypes straight ?!?

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

"He had a meeting with the whole team and he told us that we don't have a chance to make the playoffs, so us winning the game really don't matter. So if it causes us to lose the game to get 2,000 yards, then we'll do that it. . . . So I give a lot of credit to Jeff Fisher."

Roger Goodell just popped a vein in his forehead...

Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

why are you calling me out when everybody does the same thing, more or less?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:20 PM

You're the only one I see coming up here picking fights with Red and then crying like a little girl who wet her best dress. You're not even making sense any more. You're posting from the land of periculum. Let it go and move on.

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

You agree not to submit inappropriate content. Inappropriate content includes any content that:

infringes upon or violates the copyrights, trademarks or other intellectual property rights of any person

is libelous or defamatory

is obscene, pornographic, or sexually explicit

violates a person's right to privacy

violates any local, state, national, or international law

contains or advocates illegal or violent acts

degrades others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability, or other classification

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Red, this is what I'm talking about.

how does this make me insane?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

ohhhhhhh snap, I just Google Fought RedDMV vs. Chia_Pet. And the winner is.............................RedDMV!!! Here's the results:

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=RedDMV&word2=Chia_Pet

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 3, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

time for Wapner....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 3, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

he riles me up when he goes for the low blows and the cheap shots.

he got under my skin a long time ago with that nonsense...

Posted by: Chia_Pet

You're pathetic. You should never let someone have that much power and control over you.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Although I think Cooley and Davis on the field at the same time is intriguing, I don't think it's a full time offense. I mean, if you are trying to introduce more receivers into the offense, then why not bring in four wide receivers? And if you are trying to keep teams guessing about what you are going to do, then the sacrifice you make with Cooley and Davis in there is superior run blocking that a bigger, slower guy like Sellers or Yoder can bring. Last season I saw Cooley - and then later, Davis - in there on third and long situations where I just felt a guy like a wide receiver would have been a better bet. Now, with two quality tight ends, I just worry that the team will try to get to clever with trying to get them on the field at the same time.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 3, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

and I repeat...

degrades others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability, or other classification.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Portis needs to fix those bone spurs as Stump recommended. Else Portis will sit on the bench. Can always play Cooley at H-back as was always intended by Joe Gibbs. Otherwise, hell yeah trade the guy for a lineman or draft picks. They need blockers not web site sales entrepreneurs.

Posted by: periculum | February 3, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Chia...any theory as to why Jerry Smith is not in the HoF?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 3, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:34 PM |

But if we had to abide by all the above, this blog would be like all the other teams blogs - just lame and only about 5 posts a day.

This is so much better than watching soaps on tv, more entertaining and sometimes very enlightening, with an occasional blurb about football, usually some inane trade, cut, keep tirade before we get back to the entertainment.

This is great off-season stuff.

keep it up.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | February 3, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Now, stop that!!!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 3, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Inappropriate content includes any content that:

violates any ... international law ... contains advertising or solicitation of any kind
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Whoa whoa whoa! I can get over the first one (in that international law really just refers to custom and practice and that only nation-states have sovereignty over their citizens), but I CANNOT abide by this other one ... at least not when I'm watching the Winter Olympics from Vancouver with coverage starting with the opening ceremonies on February 22nd exclusively on NBC.

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

You should never let someone have that much power and control over you.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:37 PM

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That's like saying the woman deserved to be assaulted because she wore a revealing dress.

(insert joke here, League Source)

but perpetrators perpetrate.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Okay, terrific, we got 4th Floor and 4-12 on board, now we can work our way through the rest of the alphanumeric handles.

Shabingus!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Although I think Cooley and Davis on the field at the same time is intriguing, I don't think it's a full time offense. I mean, if you are trying to introduce more receivers into the offense, then why not bring in four wide receivers? And if you are trying to keep teams guessing about what you are going to do, then the sacrifice you make with Cooley and Davis in there is superior run blocking that a bigger, slower guy like Sellers or Yoder can bring. Last season I saw Cooley - and then later, Davis - in there on third and long situations where I just felt a guy like a wide receiver would have been a better bet. Now, with two quality tight ends, I just worry that the team will try to get to clever with trying to get them on the field at the same time.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 3, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, so you put some lbs. on Davis and teach him how to block. Then you set up in a 2 TE formation like you're going to run and you PA to one of them. Or you set up in a 2 TE formation like you're going to run and you pass to one of the TEs. Or you set up in the 2 TE formation like you're going to run and you run. I think it all comes down to if Fred Davis will be able to block, if he can't then it won't be that beneficial to us if we have 2 good pass catching TEs.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 3, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

it makes no sense to have both Cooley and Davis.....Davis is younger and seems to have more potential....as much as I like Cooley, if the opportunity to trade him for a second rounder came up, i would do it in a heartbeat

Posted by: askhosh10 | February 3, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

"So it's tough when someone says, 'We need linemen, who can we trade? Let's trade Chris.' It's like, come on..."

"[Washington] is a place I want to spend my whole career. I don't have any intention of ever leaving."


Based on this, you could say that Cooley reads Redskins Insider.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse


Maybe he scans RI.

If he really read RI, he'd know that the real masterplan around here is to trade Portis for a 2nd rounder and Betts for a 3rd rounder and use those picks to get linemen.

Posted by: p1funk | February 3, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Chia...any theory as to why Jerry Smith is not in the HoF?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 3, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse
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CUZ HE BLACK!!!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 3, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

You, yourself try and don the cape and try to regualte which you have NO CONTROL over and doesn't concern you.

That is what makes you insane.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

it makes no sense to have both Cooley and Davis.....Davis is younger and seems to have more potential....as much as I like Cooley, if the opportunity to trade him for a second rounder came up, i would do it in a heartbeat

Posted by: askhosh10 | February 3, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse


Really, I know.

What's the sense in having multiple playmakers on offense???

I can't think of one good reason why...

Posted by: p1funk | February 3, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

some quotes from Cooley's radio interview. Quotes are from the Redskin's blogger.


Cooley on meeting Shanahan for the first time:

"But he was great. He's extremely organized. And it was neat: he got in and the first thing we sat down and he said was, 'Hey, I've watched so much film, I feel like I know you because of the film I've watched on you.' And I thought that was really neat. I felt good about it.

"But it's cool to see that he's already in there working as hard as he is. Definitely the type of guy who knows how to run an organization. The guy that you can trust. He did a great job in Denver for a long time, and we're really excited to have him. We're really excited about the possibility of stability as well, 'cause we've been all over the map."

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My take: Shanahan is that dude.

_____________________________________

Cooley on pass protection being the #1 priority this offseason:

"So," Rucillo suggested, "you'd be willing to say right here on the Scott Van Pelt show that you'll stay in and protect all next season, no routes for you?"

"No," Cooley said, "the cool thing is we've developed a new tight end to do that. His name's Fred Davis. Pass protection extraordinaire. I'm thinking about losing about 25 pounds and saying, 'Guess what: slot receiver. No more blocking.'

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My take: Loose that weight Cooley. I would love to see him in a Dallas Clark role.

Posted by: TWISI | February 3, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

lol

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 3, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

you all act like no one has ever done the same to you.

and accuse me of being on a high horse because I choose to defend myself against those ad hominem attacks.

?

Apparently you are confused.

I never said you can't defend yourself - In fact, in my last post, I encouraged you to defend yourself.

I said you don't get to make the rules for others on this sports blog.

That's all.

Whateves indeed.

Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Cooley on meeting Shanahan for the first time:

"But he was great. He's extremely organized. And it was neat: he got in and the first thing we sat down and he said was, 'Hey, I've watched so much film, I feel like I know you because of the film I've watched on you.

'And of course I also saw that picture of your junk on the internet.'

And I thought that was really neat. I felt good about it.

Posted by: p1funk | February 3, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

This thing shows I crush RedDMV....lol

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=RedDMV&word2=4thFloor

Epic Fail....

@4-12 - I have not forgotten about the 1/5th of Remy (possibly 1738)....Tax Season and New baby have me occupied....Targeting a MArch-May date for deliverery (sp?)........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I mean seriously*, I'm all for Title IX, but who ever came up with the idea of giving a group of woman big sticks?

http://www.nbcolympics.com/hockey/resultsandschedules/index.html

* By use of the term serious, I mean not serious.

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

@ 4thFloor

Not too many people are going to survive a band, movie, and your incessant posting

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 3, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

You should never let someone have that much power and control over you.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:37 PM

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That's like saying the woman deserved to be assaulted because she wore a revealing dress.

(insert joke here, League Source)

but perpetrators perpetrate.

Posted by: Chia_Pet


That stupid sh*t doesn't even make any sense whatsoever.

But yeah, chia. Keep it up with the superhero crap, and defend the good citizens of Redskins Insider.

When Red_DMV talks about the threesome with your mama, aunt, and grandmother: Chia will be there.

When Red_DMV suggest that your sister can lick his nutsack: Chia will be there.

When Red_DMV tells a poster that he teabagged their wife and skull fuc_ed her: Chia will be there.

Da-DaDa-DUM!!!!

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Targeting a MArch-May date for deliverery (sp?) ...

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 4:49 PM

You guys went back to the well AGAIN?!?! Dude! I like you and all, but as far as populating the world, you are NOT that good looking. [I'm also picturing a bunch of Darnell Dockett's kids shaking in their booties.]

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

[I hope that one was OK ... the WaPo blog rules don't say anything about inappropriate content including telling people that they're ugly.]

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

4th, you couldn't see me with lasik and a magnifying glass.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Also, congratulations!

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Oh, my bad ... delivery of Remy, not another baby. Never mind. [But you're still ugly.]

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

They're calling for another foot of snow this Friday, with another round of snow this coming Tuesday. Enough with the white stuff already.

Posted by: TWISI | February 3, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

This thing shows I crush RedDMV....lol

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=RedDMV&word2=4thFloor

gotta love Google Fight.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 3, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Still no takers on the Deacon Jones career points total trivia question.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Matt - insult or a joke?....utterly confused...me not like...

Sween - Let's not start talking about you and taking professional (PROFESSIONAL) Christmas photos in your Saturday YArd-Work Gear (T-Shirt And Long Johns??!?!?! COME ON MAN!!!)!!

(On a serious note - I forgot to thank you for the card - Now back to back stabbing jokes)

You probably should have gotten your girls to do your make up as well...And who gave the little one a black eye.....(asking while dialing social services)

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Zee - no googling, I'm guessing D. Jones scored 6 points in his career

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 3, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

They're calling for another foot of snow this Friday, with another round of snow this coming Tuesday. Enough with the white stuff already.

Posted by: TWISI | February 3, 2010 4:59 PM

When Friday? Morning? Night? Will there be delays and cancellations?

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

When Red_DMV talks about the threesome with your mama, aunt, and grandmother: Chia will be there.

When Red_DMV suggest that your sister can lick his nutsack: Chia will be there.

When Red_DMV tells a poster that he teabagged their wife and skull fuc_ed her: Chia will be there.

Da-DaDa-DUM!!!!

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anyone that defends this whacktard has their own issues.

nuff said.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 4:51 PM

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

When Red_DMV talks about the threesome with your mama, aunt, and grandmother: Chia will be there.

When Red_DMV suggest that your sister can lick his nutsack: Chia will be there.

When Red_DMV tells a poster that he teabagged their wife and skull fuc_ed her: Chia will be there.

Da-DaDa-DUM!!!!

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anyone who defends this whacktard has their own issues.

nuff said.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

4th, I can change my clothes, but you're still ugly. [Check you email.]

Cooley at slot would be fine, esp. if ARE gets unloaded ... Cooley's yards after catch are pretty decent. I don't think his hands are any better or worse the ARE's (at least not in the passing game ... I haven't seen Cooley try to field a punt ... off his helmet). ARE is faster (duh), but YAC is YAC. Cooley's size means he should be able to absorb a hit better. [Of course, I realize that Cooley might have been fooling about dropping weight and moving to slot.]

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

anyone who defends this whacktard has their own issues.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:15 PM

Whereas guys who spend their day attacking him and getting slammed by him are model citizens? Let. it. go.

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

fred Davis missed the first day of practice?! Cut him, wah wah. Oh, Cooley got hurt and Davis had a couple good games? Well, trade Cooley then. (the 17%ers)

Give Davis a chance to grow and allow 2 good TEs to play together creating mis-matches ( the 82%ers)

Posted by: pabrian2003 | February 3, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Sween - Had a new baby in December - I think I announced it....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 3, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

anyone who defends this whacktard has their own issues.

nuff said.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

keep going. You might be able to get this to carry over until tomorrow.

Also, congratulations, I'd say you were responsible for 99% of the posts you claim bother you so much.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | February 3, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Listen. League Source.

You let it go.

Just because you and others like you have willingly suspend your sense of right and wrong when you enter the blog,

doesn't mean I have to.

notice who is unrelenting in the putrid, obscene personal attacks.

not me.

you bugger off, pal.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

4th, sounds like a plan. Maybe we'll attack that bottle before Nate's [potential] shabingus.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 3, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

It just means 17 percent of the people voting on this site need to go finish their math homework so they can be in bed by 10pm - and they only have 30 min left of Internet time left anyway.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | February 3, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

how am i responsible for the most obscene poster on this blog continuing to attack me?

oh i know.

just sit there and keep you mouth shut. resisting will only make it worse for me.

you all have a twisted point of view.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

^^^yawn

Calling me out for calling people names and making personal attacks, then in turn do the same makes you a class-A jack-of-ass HYPOCRITE.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

So, chia, I attacked you first?

When? You only got served when you made it your business.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I hate Davis, I hate Davis, oh wait, I hate Cooley

Man I should be a GM

Posted by: pabrian2003 | February 3, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

ENOUGH of this talk about Shockey!

er, wait, we weren't talking about Shockey were we ... I just read something about him at nflfanhouse.

They say he's a love-em-or-hate-em guy. Put me in the latter -em category.

OK, back to Cooley and Davis.

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Why attack each other when you can attack players who got hurt or missed the first day of practice?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | February 3, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Red,

I'm over it.

I gave you some of your own medicine when you teed off on truth with the finger banging his dad comment.

and then you came back at me.

which proves you can diss but can't take.

so shut er up now.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I don't think I've ever encountered anyone who loved Shockey in real life.

Though I did have the misfortune of arriving in the NYC the morning of their Super Bowl parade, and the streets were filled with authentic chooches sporting Shockey jerseys. (Though it could be said that the title was won in part thanks to his absence from the active roster.)

Jints fans probably have the same opinion of our fan base's love for Cooley as the opinion we held of their love for Shockey... okay, that was a harder thing to say than it should have been... maybe in the eyes of other team's fans, Cooley is our Shockey... the notion of which disgusts me, but there are a lot of disgusting things in this world, once you step outside the Redskins' fan base...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

and moreover, I'm over it.

you keep on keeping on.

I could care less at this point.

it's just disgusting what you "serve."

I'm no angel either, but gawd damn.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Why is this even a poll question?

47 has been the most consistent offensive weapon the Redskins have had in the past 5 seasons.

Posted by: WatkinsJr | February 3, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I gave you some of your own medicine when you teed off on truth with the finger banging his dad comment.

and then you came back at me.

which proves you can diss but can't take.

so shut er up now.

Posted by: Chia_Pet


How in the hell does this prove I can dish but can't take.

I thought I told you that I finger banged your moms back in 1999?

I basically said the same thing to you that I said to Fartez, not TheTruth11.

If anything it shows that YOU can dish but not take.

I really think this is just some attempt to try and turn the blog against me like we do trollers who post the same thing 500 times a day.

I never asked anyone to be cool with me. I don't seek acceptance, but obviously you do. Why else stand up in the middle of the room and scream at those that suggest that you're wrong in this fight?

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

All this blog sparring is fine with me. We've gotta keep sharp. The offseason is almost upon us! It's our time to shine as Redskin fans!

I implore everyone to take their offseason training programs seriously. The Portland contingent are going to start a series of rigorous -- though not mandatory, per union rules -- offseason drinking activities (ODAs) in a few weeks. The rest of you should follow suit. Especially since we've got that big scrimmage against the Ravens' blog community this summer.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

WatkinsJr, did you even watch the games this past season? After he got put on IR, Cooley did nothing for this team! Of course a guy like that is expendable! Hel-loo!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Cooley and Shockey are miles apart, except maybe to YOU, Nate. [I bet you think all white TEs look the same.] The article says Sean Payton hearts Shockey, as did Fassel, who where the OC and HC who drafted hime. Coughlin, not so much (Eli, even less). I think Shockey was part of the same Univ of Miami legacy (at the same time) as Portis, Moss, Vilma, etc. ... and, unlike Cooley, I don't think Shockey ever described a discussion with his head coach as "neat".

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Why else stand up in the middle of the room and scream at those that suggest that you're wrong in this fight?

Posted by: RedDMV | February 3, 2010 5:43 PM

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Geeez brother, enough already.

You are unabashedly a big giant prig.

Wonderful.

Obviously, I don't share other's point of view about how I'm wrong.

Good for me and good for you and good evening.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Especially since we've got that big scrimmage against the Ravens' blog community this summer.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2010 5:43 PM

Right. They can dish it out, but they can't take it. Or is that backwards? We can't take it? I often get confused, but I'm bananas now after trying to follow Chia_Pet's logic down so many blind alleys/

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Red, what we've proven today is that we can BOTH diss, take, and keep on dissing.

But I'm over it.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

The offseason is almost upon us! It's our time to shine as Redskin fans!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2010 5:43 PM

You missed the thread about "Deacon Jones recalling a young Bruce Allen." RI blogging on that type of data suggests that we are deep into late June already.

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

and Red, my offer stands.

the beer is on me.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Red, what we've proven today is that we can BOTH diss, take, and keep on dissing.

But I'm over it.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:48 PM

Judge's scoring in the two events:

1. Dissing and taking:

RedDMV 9 10 9 8 10
Chia_Pet 4 1 3 2 3

2. Over it:

RedDMV 8 7 8 6 9
Chia_Pet 1 1 2 1 3

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many MORE times Chia's gonna post that he's "over it" before he actually get's over it?

Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

good to see you're keeping score, Source.

but I banged your mama during the seventh inning stretch.

haha!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many MORE times Chia's gonna post that he's "over it" before he actually get's over it?


Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010 5:57 PM

Good question. For my own part, I can honestly say that I'm over it with that Suisham missed FG. You?

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Like I said. EDVAR

I'm over it.

hehe

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

"I'm certifiably insane."

by chia pet

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I love you guys.

awwww shucks.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Good question. For my own part, I can honestly say that I'm over it with that Suisham missed FG. You?

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 5:59 PM

yup, pretty much moved on...

Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Walter's football site ranks free agents (both UFA and RFA). I was unaware that Rabach was unrestricted.

http://www.walterfootball.com/freeagents2010C.php

Out of the available guys, he ranks fifth best ... he gives him two stars out of five and his rankings include half stars.

"A reliable center with experience. Would make a great backup."

Ouch

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Stephon Heyer, 19th, with one and a half stars:

"A capable backup tackle, but should not be in any starting lineup for an extended period of time."

That's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Rabach would make a good backup - for Vet minimum I'd think about keeping him around.

Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Walter's #2 QB in free agency ... Jason Campbell ... three stars ... and behind Matt Moore (Carolina), an exclusive rights free agent (which isn't even as free as restricted free agency).

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Where in blazes is TE? (Talent Evaluator)

Posted by: periculum | February 3, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Source,
It ain't over until they kiss and make up.

(a tender blog embrace about to happen...

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 3, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Rabach would make a good backup - for Vet minimum I'd think about keeping him around.

Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010

This isn't the Ravens, as in drafting lineman consistently for the past 10 years. Instead of lame wide receivers and too many tweeners for the defensive line.

Posted by: periculum | February 3, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

"I think there's been a lot of trade rumors around D.C. - not necessarily around Redskins Park - but just D.C. and talk radio. It's nonsense,"

another reason why captain chaos is a skin for life!!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | February 3, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

rabach is clearly the worst player on the team and it made me happy that the 1st personnel move made by shanny was signing a back-up center.......im glad he obviously sees our weakest link...rabach, centers' is the nfl need to be valued much higher or at least the Skins need to value centers more and it looks like the new regime will

Posted by: retroskins14 | February 3, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

but I banged your mama during the seventh inning stretch.

haha!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 3, 2010 5:59 PM

LOL! That's more like it Chia. Good recovery.

Posted by: League-Source | February 3, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Nothing like a good blog fight, but 3 days is the limit.

Now, either hug it out or step away from the keyboard. Don't make me say it again.

What do you tell a woman with 2 black eyes? Nothing, you already told her twice...

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 3, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Zee - no googling, I'm guessing D. Jones scored 6 points in his career

Posted by: JohnDinHouston

Deacon Jones scored .... 5 points ... in his NFL career. 2 safeties and an extra point.

With deference to my imperfect memory, the extra point happened in his last career regular season game. It was as a Redskin vs Chicago. The Skins led 41-0 and George Allen sent Jones in to kick the extra point. Jones kicked the ten yarder, with the ball hitting the upright before going thru.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Great tight end.... Gene Fugatt

Posted by: diamond_jim | February 3, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

We can't keep everyone...we need picks. Most good teams trade that need picks trade players for equal or more value.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 3, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

meant to comment on the Chris Johnson thing about Fisher saying that Johnson getting 2,000 yards was more important than the team winning the last game.

Duh!!!

Johnson was not only going for 2,000 yards, but several all time records. He got 1, most yards from scrimmage -- and would have had a shot at the rushing record, except a 62 yard TD run got called back.

The playoffs aren't in the mix and you have a guy going for a once in a lifetime deal, I go no issue with that.

fwiw, the Skins threw about 4 times in a row to Monk to get him the all-time receptions record on national TV.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, the Skins threw about 4 times in a row to Monk to get him the all-time receptions record on national TV.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 7:28 PM


I was at that game. It was against Denver and we were winning in the fourth quarter. All of the sudden we starting throwing like crazy and everybody knew what was about to happen. RFK went nuts!

I think part of the reasoning was also that we were gonna be on the road, and wanted to set the record at home.

Great day.

Posted by: edvar | February 3, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

From Terl's blog:

So," Rucillo suggested, "you'd be willing to say right here on the Scott Van Pelt show that you'll stay in and protect all next season, no routes for you?"

"No," Cooley said, "the cool thing is we've developed a new tight end to do that. His name's Fred Davis. Pass protection extraordinaire. I'm thinking about losing about 25 pounds and saying, 'Guess what: slot receiver. No more blocking.'"

And there you have it Redskins fans. Prolly should Trade Cooley while he's still worth something ...

Posted by: periculum | February 3, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

We don't get too many people like Cooley in DC. The guy actually wants to be here and likes the area. I guarantee he isn't a problem when it comes contract time. I don't see how any team would trade one of the best TE's in the game and come out on top the positional value wouldn't translate in our favor. The draft is a crap shoot and I wouldn't take anything less than 2 #1's. Give Chris and Sleepy a QB who can find the end zone and our O will drasticlly improve.

Posted by: AnthonyMix | February 3, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Straight up, I am pro Chris Cooley trade IF we get a decent draft pick in return (2nd rounder)...

Here is why:

For one, the number of times that we will use a two tight-end set will only be a handful per game. And with that, the chances of the skins getting big yardage on those plays are probably minimal. If you want another "pass-catcher" then put a wide receiver in there. We all know JC17 isn't the best at throwing accurately so Marko could take the theoretical second tight end spot that Cooley would have occupied. Chances are, a linebacker would end up guarding that position and there is no reason any of our receiving core should have any problem getting open. On top of that, Marko would be a BIG target for JC to toss to.

In terms of the running game, Davis has a better upside because he has shown there is plenty of room for improvement in his game. He improved in each game this past season and there is no reason for him to regress with our up-graded couching staff in place. Cooley, on the other hand, has probably peaked in terms of his football skills. The chances of him becoming a monster at blocking at this stage of his game are not high. Plus, he seems to think his game is just fine based on his attitude (but last part is just a gut feeling of mine).

In terms of over all athleticism, I am pretty sure they are even. However, Davis might have a slight advantage here too. First of all look at Davis... He just looks like a beast and I wouldn't be shocked if he could pack a harder punch in comparison to Cooley. Davis also is younger and therefore less prone to get hurt. We all saw how Cooley broke his ankle. It basically looked like Cooley's body/ankle broke down without contact. I don't know about you guys, but that is a concern for sure. Now it's his ankle, and next year it might be a knee.

Now I will give the advantage to Cooley when it comes to running routes. He always seems to find the open spot and catch the ball (even the high-hard to catch ones that JC throws regularly). But I wouldn't be shocked if Davis could do the same. He seemed to get open throughout the latter half the season. I remember he had one easy TD catch dropped, but I would put my money on him catching that more often than not. Also, with our new TE and WR coaches in place, I wouldn't be surprised if Davis' route running skills improved too.

I am certain Coach Shananigan is going to be thinking about all of the above and check out the tapes. If he does choose to shop Cooley, he won't just give up a pro bowl tight-end for a bargain price. Second rounder is the minimum for a probowl tight end in my book. Maybe in the trade include a 3rd or 4th rounder for the following year if Cooley breaks 1000 yrds receiving or something. On in all, I am confident that we won't great screwed like the past because we have a more competent front office...

In Shananigan we trust... HTTR

Posted by: Rashad8o4 | February 3, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Very little foobtall chatta in this blog.

A lot of hatred, though.

I'm amazed at the number of times two dudes can claim that the other has unmatched proficiency with fellatio, crack, self-gratification, tea baggery, and intra-family group sex.

Makes me sad and jealous that other folks are having so much fun.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 3, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Why not make the two TE set the standard formation? I think it would give defenses fits. Of course all of our TE's would need to learn to block, including CC.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 3, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

The draft is a crap shoot and I wouldn't take anything less than 2 #1's. Give Chris and Sleepy a QB who can find the end zone and our O will drasticlly improve.

Posted by: AnthonyMix | February 3, 2010 8:04 PM

I agree about not trading Cooley because his value to the skins is higher than the compensation we would get in return.

I’d trade him tomorrow for 1 #2, but NO team would give 1 #2, let alone 2 #1's. The best we would probably get in return would be a 3rd.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 3, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

anyone got a link to the uva nc state game?

Posted by: brianearman | February 3, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Very little foobtall chatta in this blog.

A lot of hatred, though.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 3, 2010 8:19 PM

Stems from the absence of Skins stuff to talk about ... other than Deacon Jones recalling a young Bruce Allen ... and even Jones didn't have very kind things to say about young Allen (though I recognize it didn't rise to the level of hatred).

Seriously though ... if you're the Saints and you have a balanced attack, including the running game, how do you not run at Freeney repeatedly?

p.s. to edvar ... Pierre Thomas was undrafted ... so if anyone can on-field audible out special teams, then any RB with legs (and not named Rock Cartwright) can run the ball.

Posted by: dcsween | February 3, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

"Why not make the two TE set the standard formation?"

Because what you want to do is use space to your advantage.

You can attack in space, flex a player who then must be covered by a dude who can't blitz.

I say make F Davis a receiver (he's athletic enough to run the crossing routes El ran last year and is too big to cover), and kill the noise about his being a tight end.

That way, you can keep him and Cooley.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 3, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I said the day Fred Davis was drafted. Why? Teams don't run that many plays with 2 tight ends. You want more speed on the field.

Both Cooley and Davis have a long way to go in their careers.

If I'm Shanahan, I have to explore trading either Davis or Cooley. Two very good tight ends is a luxury that a team with a poor OL can not afford.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

ZC,
I hear what you're saying, but aren't TEs OLs? So there is a non-sequitor...

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 3, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I have said it for over 2yrs rabach is overrated slow, and weak he gets hog-whipped at the line by stronger and younger d-lineman and gets pushed into campbell alot they have a young strong potential center on the team already..edwin williams, let him and the new guy they just brought in battle it out for the center job and release rabach NOW!

Posted by: wathu19 | February 3, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Draft Olson at center in the fifth. Trade PORTIS for a third. Cut ARE in an uncapped year.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 3, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse


What should the Redskins do with Chris Cooley?

* Keep him.
82%
* Trade him.
17%

Created on Feb 3, 2010

Total Votes: 2,062


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Terrific Rick!

This poll makes a difference. The people have spoken.

Don't you disagree?

Posted by: Vicc | February 3, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

TEs OLs? So there is a non-sequitor...

Posted by: _Stumped_

looks like something chRIs lArRy would write

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I have said it for over 2yrs rabach is overrated slow, and weak he gets hog-whipped at the line by stronger and younger d-lineman and gets pushed into campbell alot they have a young strong potential center on the team already..edwin williams, let him and the new guy they just brought in battle it out for the center job and release rabach NOW!

Posted by: wathu19 | February 3, 2010 9:06 PM
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
So Zorn & Bugel kept a better player on the bench while starting an inferior one, doesn't make sense to me. My guess is that Edwin can't make the line calls and changes that Casey could.

I'm all for making everyone compete for their jobs in camp though.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 3, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Ya Know?

I think that if Lebron James really wanted to become a billionaire, he could do it more quickly doubling as an NFL WR/TE AND a Cleveland Cavalier. Certainly assuming there is no salary cap.

But the combination of those two sports could be too physically daunting.

Posted by: Vicc | February 3, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

So Zorn & Bugel kept a better player on the bench while starting an inferior one, doesn't make sense to me. My guess is that Edwin can't make the line calls and changes that Casey could.

I'm all for making everyone compete for their jobs in camp though.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 3, 2010 9:38 PM |

So someone had to make line calls. If it isn't the center, then it has to be the QB.

Hmmmmm. No wonder JC had so much trouble. He didn't know what Casey was calling while he was under center and he thought that Safety on the edge was there to pick up the RB coming out in the flat.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | February 3, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Keep Cooley. Keep Davis. Make a two tight end set work for the Redskins. Next question.

Speaking of the next question, Mr. Mayor, why don't you do a poll on how many people think ARE should be back this year?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 3, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

"[Washington] is a place I want to spend my whole career. I don't have any intention of ever leaving."

Uhh, you better hold on to the ball more and block better Chris.

Just think the football is your hot wifes butt and you'll be fine.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 3, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Draft Olson at center in the fifth. Trade PORTIS for a third. Cut ARE in an uncapped year.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 3, 2010 9:31 PM |

You keep beating that giant, crack filled, alcohol soaked drum about Portis and a third and it will come true.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 3, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

You keep beating that giant, crack filled, alcohol soaked drum about Portis and a third and it will come true.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 3, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Pounding away my man, pounding away.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 3, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

For all the statisticians:

What's the odds:

The beer is "ON" me. Posted by Chia pet.

Who won the acrimony posts?

Chia Pet or All others

Is there going to be a rematch or is this an elimination tournament.

Interested viewers are asking.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | February 3, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

I'll give it to you for persistence bro. You got that...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 3, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

scampbell1975:

Mediocrity has that if nothing else.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 3, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm a fan of Davis but, you don't trade one of the best TE's and roll with a second year guy who showed promise in a weak offense. I'm sure had chris not gotten hurt he would have been a lot more produtive than fred.

Posted by: AnthonyMix | February 4, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

hpytrkr1,

Funny.

First I baited Red.

Then, he took the bait.

but if you wanna catch a rat,

you gotta lay out a little cheese.

I blog in peace 99.99% of the time.

red makes a living as the superfund site baby of RI.

and that's a fact.


Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 4, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

I do appreciate the enlightenment, thank you.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | February 4, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

You're welcome.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | February 4, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I can't wait to see what Davis and Cooley will do next year. Each has top 5 TE speed and hands and brings intangibles that the other doesn't have. Cooley is a great blocker on the line and down the field and can bull over any LB for an extra 3 yds. While Davis may not be that great a blocker but has the agility of a WR and can out finesse any LB in the open field.
Besides that, if you trade Cooley the most you get for him is a 2nd more likely a 3rd and it just isn't worth losing him for that. Put them both on the field and let them try to outshine each other. And with Kelly and Thomas each entering their 3rd year in the league, the year most WR's come into their own, I can't wait to see what the season holds.
As for Portis, while I wish he would just leave but fiscally it just isn't going to happen. His money for the next two years is guarnteed and that would hurt too much, cap or no cap. We have 5 draft spots this year and one of Shanahan's old T are a free agent this year. We should get our RB thru one of those two ways.

Posted by: sdavey355 | February 4, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

This poll is pretty idiotic considering the fact that cooley goes down w/ an injury and fred davis steps up and does what he's paid to do...play the game. for those who think cooley should be traded need to understand this....cooley knows how to block. davis doesn't. davis and to spend his off time working on his blocking and he's a 2nd year player. you don't get a sense of urgency to perfect a certain aspect of your game in the second year. being drafted in the 2nd round speaks volumes. had davis shown a better work ethic, he would've been drafted in the first round but other coaches saw this and that's why he fell in the draft. i'm not taking anything away from davis because he finally woke up but to think he can outplay cooley is just crazy. cooley is definitely the complete player at the position and to trade him would be a tremendous mistake.

Posted by: charronegro1971 | February 4, 2010 1:52 AM | Report abuse

First...Fred Davis is younger and showed that he is very, very talented...but we should get rid of Davis and I'll tell you why even though it hurts to say so...

I'm a die hard Skins fan who grew up in N. VA and now currently live in AZ(graduated from college, still out here ever since)...In Arizona (no one is really from here)so everyone roots for there hometown team (besides the AZ bandwagon fans since the Cards made it to the Superbowl recently)...every Sunday I listen to all my friends, who are from all over the country tell me how bad the Skins are...that being said...

The ONLY names that continuously come up on the Skins that anyone seems to have respect for no matter how our team is doing is Fletcher and Chris Cooley. Funny thing...if I'm talking to a Cowboys fan (wearing my "I Hate Dallas" T-shirt) they laugh after insulting then state "well the only thing you guys have going for you is Chris Cooley."

All I'm saying is, Cooley is not only a fan favorite and well respected in the locker room but even by our rivals (even the most hated Cowboys fans)...Davis is BEAST but if you were to ask me, get rid of Davis if we really are contemplating it...you can make a argument on both players...that's mine

Posted by: Wagnerchristopher | February 4, 2010 2:13 AM | Report abuse

Colt Brennan not McCoy!
Each draft slot is assigned a value. #4 is worth Seattle's two 1st round picks. They want a QB. They will trade with us to get #4. We take OT Okung and OG Mile Iupati with the 2 picks. We trade Cooley for a mid-high 1st rd pick and we draft OT Trent Williams for the R tackle spot. In free agency sign both RB Chester Taylor and Darren Sproles as the 3rd down back and we give Colt Brennan his chance. With our 2nd round pick, we take a center, Maurkice Pouncey Florida 6-5 318. 4th round, take a backup QB in case Colt doesn't fit. Trade Albert Haynesworth for SF two 1st rd picks and draft S Taylor Mays Southern Cal 6-3 230 4.45 plays like the great Sean Taylor #21 and OT Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts 6-5 330 for rotation. To fill the hole left with Albert gone, sign free agent NT Vince Wilfork from the Patriots. Albert wasn't the player he should have been. There, with one draft, I have rebuilt this team to be a superbowl team. We end up with 5 first round picks. It's uncapped, we can spend anything we like!
One more thing-don't waste the #4 pick on a hit or miss QB! There is no Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or even dare I say it, Troy Aikman in this draft! Trade the pick and pic up our Oline!
Are you listening Shanny? This is what I would do if I were GM...

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 4, 2010 4:37 AM | Report abuse

There, with one draft, I have rebuilt this team to be a superbowl team.

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 4, 2010 4:37 AM

Anyone wondering what happened to Vinny? I say he's up here with us, blogging as Kurt Shanaman. Same old, same old.

Posted by: League-Source | February 4, 2010 5:59 AM | Report abuse

LS, even Vinny would know you're not getting two #1s for Haynesworth. Somebody played way too much Madden over the weekend, apparently.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2010 6:19 AM | Report abuse

KurtShanaman,
I get it. So, you are saying trade our whole offense for an entire defense of draft picks, trades and free agents. Then you are saying trade our whole defense for an entire defense of draft picks, trades, and free agents. Brilliant! The part I love best about your plan is where half of the first round draft picks fall right into our lap after a series of carefully engineered pie-in-the-sky trades. Brilliant! Out of curiosity, did you draft Obama's budget? Have you ever been a risk assessor for the lending industry? Have you ever been an executive at General Motors? If not, I was just thinking they could use a guy like you.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 4, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Well linemen won't fall from the sky!

You have to trade somebody to get decent linemen.

Posted by: shamken | February 4, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

A certain blogger from Boston is going to eat that KurtShanaman post for breakfast.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 4, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

No doubt, Red. I feel a faux PFT post coming as well...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

I see someone else is on a tremendous amount of crack this morning. Kurt, you really should think about what you are saying before you type it. First off, no QB in this years draft is worth 2 first rounders so that deal with Seattle is a pipe dream. San Fran's defense was to good to want to spend 2 first round picks on Haynie, especially with that money. You shoot down your whole scenario yourself at the end. You say no QB is worth a number 4 yet you think Seattle will trade 2 first rounders for it. Pay attention now, then you say Haynie hasn't played like he should yet San Fran would trade 2 first rounders for him. You must think that the people working for those teams have less football sense than you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 4, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

"think that if Lebron James really wanted to become a billionaire, he could do it more quickly doubling as an NFL WR/TE AND a Cleveland Cavalier. Certainly assuming there is no salary cap."

seeing how Crybon needs a towl every time he gets breathed on, that would never work. But to see Crybobn get put on his a**, that would be fun to see.

Trade Cooly, get some better pics for lineman. Hard to swallow,but it must be done.

Posted by: nowhine | February 4, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Stupid poll. As for the nearly 20% who wrote 'trade him', go root for Dallas.

Posted by: JHG_sec405 | February 4, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

The poeple that want to trade Cooley are mistakenly under the impression that the one mid round pick he would get us would make us playoff or Superbowl bound. We're further away than that my friends. He does us more good here than traded.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 4, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Jason Reid's Cooley-aid of trading the best player on the Deadskins cracks me up. I can't think of any reason why you'd trade him and keep Fred Davis aka LJ Smith. Here's guy that can't block and runs questionable routes but you'd keep LJ Davis over arguably the best player on the team. Well for whatever reason Reid thinks that (I can only guess but I'd hate to believe that) I can only hope my Eagles are listening because Cooley would look awfully sweet lining up with Celek, Jackson and Macklin.

Posted by: billm32 | February 4, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

brown/red, I can't even wrap my mind around that post...I mean, its so far removed from reality, that I'd feel bad tearing it apart...I mean, I've read it a few times, and I don't think any of us realize how delusional you'd have to be to think ANY of that is even remotely possible........its just..wow...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 4, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

brown, sometimes people just set themselves up for mockery.

LOL @ "Crybron".

Some other favorites:

LeTravel
LeWhine
Carryon
LeBaby

I DO NOT like Lebron James! I'll start calling him "King" when he wins MULTIPLE championships.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 4, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Greg, the way I see it, it's better if we DON'T wrap our minds around that...if it starts to make sense in our minds, we're just as crazy as he is.

And F LeBron James. Unless he signs with the Wizards. But that's pretty unlikely so I'll repeat: F LeBron James.

And F trading Cooley. A completely idiotic plan, IMO.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Cooley... High... I KNEW IT!

Posted by: alex35332 | February 4, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Red - let's not forget MJ was 28 when he won his first one. I think LBJ is still only 25.

That being said, the NBA will never be as good as it was in the late 80s, early 90s... before expansion, when you could still play defense, when players had fundamentals, when it seemed there was a Hall of Famer on every team.

I'd still take the early 90s Bulls over Part 2...

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 4, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

NBA died for me when the Bullets changed their name.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 4, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Jason Reid's Cooley-aid of trading the best player on the Deadskins cracks me up. I can't think of any reason why you'd trade him and keep Fred Davis aka LJ Smith. Here's guy that can't block and runs questionable routes but you'd keep LJ Davis over arguably the best player on the team. Well for whatever reason Reid thinks that (I can only guess but I'd hate to believe that) I can only hope my Eagles are listening because Cooley would look awfully sweet lining up with Celek, Jackson and Macklin.

Posted by: billm32 | February 4, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Fat chance pal. Even IF Cooley was traded, which is not going to happen, he would definitely NOT go to the Eagles.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 4, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

"PFT is reporting that the Seattle Seahawks have offered the Washington Redskins their first rounders for the next 5 years, including the 2 they have this year, in exchange for the Redskins #1 pick this year, Randel El, Portis, Haynesworth, and Carlos Rogers."

I'll be dipped. Some dap to Kurt Shanaman for calling that one...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 4, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

lebron should do the right thing, and come and play for the greatest franchise in all of sports, your Boston Celtics...forget playing in NY, come to the basketball high ground...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 4, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

That being said, the NBA will never be as good as it was in the late 80s, early 90s... before expansion, when you could still play defense, when players had fundamentals, when it seemed there was a Hall of Famer on every team.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 4, 2010 8:55 AM


...and when there wasn't a team in a podung town like Oklahoma City.

100% agree with you Ryp, NBA basketball used to be my favorite back in the early 90s but now it's barely watchable IMO. I don't even bother until the playoffs (because, you know, the players don't either) anymore.

Oh, and F LeBron James.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

matt, get that crap off this board...got NO PLACE/NO TOLERANCE for that type of garbage....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 4, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

There's no point in trading Cooley or Davis at this point no matter what all of these "Internet" GM's think.

Posted by: moseley_brian | February 4, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

In all honesty, the NBA died with "Double Dribble"

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 4, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Keep both Davis and Cooley. Improve the O-line another way; maybe we can trade Randle El for a blocking dummy or two?

Posted by: kone | February 4, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

In all honesty, the NBA died with "Double Dribble"

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 4, 2010 9:11 AM |

WHAT?! Double Dribble was the greatest game ever! I still play that sh!t.

Oh, and I forgot about the crooked refs. After MJ retired part 2 I started rooting for the Kings. When the 2002 WCF happened, I knew right then and there it was fixed, and I've never doubted it. Donaghy just made it come to light.

Haven't watched the NBA since.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 4, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I’ve hated Lecrybaby ever since he punched Andray Blatche in the face and didn’t get called for it. Him refusing to shake hands after the loss last year cemented his crybaby status. But while his “crab dribble” is a walk, IMO, I can’t blame him for using it when they never call him on it, except once vs the Wizards. God knows you can’t trust the NBA refs anymore.

F Lebron…..F trading Cooley.

Glad we have McCardell as the WR coach. Really liking that move.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 4, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

matt, get that crap off this board...got NO PLACE/NO TOLERANCE for that type of garbage....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 4, 2010 9:05 AM
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What he said. There's only one fiction writer on this board and that is Bean - unless of course it's RedDMV talking about how well equipped he is.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 4, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

the real question should be " what is being offered for Cooley ( or Davis or anybody else )? Is the goal is to try to improve the level of offensive talent rather than just getting rid of some for just any draft pick ? The going rate for a pro bowl level player is at least a 2nd rnd pick , possibly including additional lower picks as well . until that is on the table the point is moot .
Trades these days are normally reserved for shipping out problem children teams are glad to be rid of for what ever they can get .

Posted by: chrisweinbeck | February 4, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

In all honesty, the NBA died with "Double Dribble"

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 4, 2010 9:11 AM |

WHAT?! Double Dribble was the greatest game ever! I still play that sh!t.
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That's what I mean. As in, the NBA died when Double Dribble died. NBA Showtime on the Dreamcast gave me temporary hope at a revival, but alas, NBA Street proved once and for all that great basketball games have nothing to do with the NBA outside of the name...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 4, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

"The going rate for a pro bowl level player is at least a 2nd rnd pick , possibly including additional lower picks"

the problem with this logic is that its not current...if this was after the 2008 season, sure, he's a pro-bowl player, but Cooley is coming off injury, which simply cannot be ignored....

however misguided, and short-sighted the idea of trading either TE is....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 4, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

When the 2002 WCF happened, I knew right then and there it was fixed, and I've never doubted it. Donaghy just made it come to light.

Haven't watched the NBA since.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 4, 2010 9:16 AM


OMG...I hate when people say this.

I was big into the Lakers back then (I've been a Shaq fan since he was a skinny rookie in Orlando), and I watched every minute of all 7 games. Everybody remembers how bad Game 6 was when the Kings got jobbed, but nobody seems to recall that Game 5 was just as bad IN FAVOR OF THE KINGS. Then the Kings straight choked in Game 7 (as most Chris Webber teams do). It was easily one of the worst officiated series in NBA history, but it wasn't just for the Lakers to win like some people like to say.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

however misguided, and short-sighted the idea of trading either TE is....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 4, 2010 9:30 AM


That's what a lot of people fail to see around here, Greg...trades just aren't that frequent in the NFL and it's not as easy and sending a proposal to someone and them just taking it. There's so much prep going into an offseason and the draft that it's almost a complete waste of time sitting on the phone trying to make a bunch of trades that likely A) won't net you what you really want and B) won't happen even after weeks of haggling over compensation.

The picks we have are likely going to be the picks we have come draft day. This team ain't getting built in one offseason.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

And this poll proves that South-Park theory that just about 1 out of 4 of americans are retarded.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 4, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

This team ain't getting built in one offseason.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2010 9:38 AM |

We don't have time to wait. I think we need Vinny/KurtShanaman in charge. Kurt/Vinny has the plan to build a superbowl roster in three months: "There, with one draft, I have rebuilt this team to be a superbowl team." -- Posted by: KurtShanaman

Posted by: League-Source | February 4, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Al, I thought it proved that the Pope was a space lizard...?!

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Keep both Davis and Cooley. Improve the O-line another way; maybe we can trade Randle El for a blocking dummy or two?

Posted by: kone | February 4, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

haha what??? Randle El has a trade value of.........0. ZERO!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 4, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Brownwood - the Kings did choke away game 7 (although I remember two HORRIBLE calls at the end of regulation for the Lakers - one was Vlade falling out of bounds and somehow fouling Kobe on a loose ball).

BUT, it never should have got there.

In game 5, the Kings had a 10 FT advantage. Not a huge discrepancy and the kind you probably see every day, especially for a home team.

In game 6, the Lakers had a 15 FT advantage, but 26 of them were in the 4th Q! 26!!!!!

There's a big difference between crappy refs giving an unconscious bias to home teams (happens all the time), and an INTENT to throw a game (whether it was just on behalf of the refs, or it went higher up the food chain...)

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 4, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Man I understand with football season having been over for months for the Skins there isn't too much to talk about but get real.
Cooley is the starting tight end on the Redskins and I expect to see him lining up every Sunday with his other teammates. Although Frerd Davis woke up he must show consistancy throughout a season which I know that he will in the future but the Skins have an asset with both of these tight ends and we need to keep them both.

Posted by: BeatDontStop | February 4, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Al, I thought it proved that the Pope was a space lizard...?!

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I thought the pope was a big Spider Queen? I think you're confusing the molesting priests episode with the Scientology episode. Either way that show is hilarious.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 4, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

And this poll proves that South-Park theory that just about 1 out of 4 of americans are retarded.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 4, 2010 9:46 AM

Can't use that word anymore, Alex. Rahm Emmanuel has met twice with groups of "disabilities advocates" to apologize for referring to some of his Democratic colleagues as "f***ing ret**ded." I don't think that ret**ded people like being equated to Democrats or something.

Posted by: League-Source | February 4, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Trading Cooley is nuts!! The guy was in the Pro Bowl a year ago and has been a solid TE since he has been here. Davis was good for what half a season?? before that he hasn't shown much and there is real questions about his blocking. I questioned even why the Skins drafted him. But now that he is here I say keep them both. But if you can only keep one.. keep Cooley!!!

Posted by: sovine08 | February 4, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Breaking news! Not. Dog bites man.

Posted by: League-Source | February 4, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Can't use that word anymore, Alex. Rahm Emmanuel has met twice with groups of "disabilities advocates" to apologize for referring to some of his Democratic colleagues as "f***ing ret**ded." I don't think that ret**ded people like being equated to Democrats or something.

Posted by: League-Source | February 4, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Well Since I hate Rahm Emmanuel more than almost any other politico in DC, and hate Sara Palin even more, I am going to keep using the word. BTW in privet she supposedly refers to her disabled son as her "retard baby", it was something Levi Johnston said on TV once, and thats a man you can trust.

Its wrong to use it when referencing someone with an actual disability, sure. But not when referencing the general stupidity of the populace.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 4, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I hear you Ryp, but I recall there being way more blown calls than just FT differential in Game 5. Again, it was easily the worst officiated series I've ever seen and probably the worst of all-time. I just think it was bad on both ends, not just the Kings.

But you're right, it's been suspected for years that the league is rigged and that Donaghy clown didn't help.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

see someone else is on a tremendous amount of crack this morning. Kurt, you really should think about what you are saying before you type it. First off, no QB in this years draft is worth 2 first rounders so that deal with Seattle is a pipe dream. San Fran's defense was to good to want to spend 2 first round picks on Haynie, especially with that money. You shoot down your whole scenario yourself at the end. You say no QB is worth a number 4 yet you think Seattle will trade 2 first rounders for it. Pay attention now, then you say Haynie hasn't played like he should yet San Fran would trade 2 first rounders for him. You must think that the people working for those teams have less football sense than you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 4, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

You get up off my true believer now scamp. My man KURT is just laying down my line although a bit heavier that I do. I only think SAN FRAN gives us a first and a sixth for BIG AL. Oh, and PORTIS for that third we been missing. LOL. LOL.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 4, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Can't use that word anymore, Alex. Rahm Emmanuel has met twice with groups of "disabilities advocates" to apologize for referring to some of his Democratic colleagues as "f***ing ret**ded." I don't think that ret**ded people like being equated to Democrats or something.

Posted by: League-Source | February 4, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'm with you LS. Shoud have said brain-dead conservatives or something to that effect.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 4, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Skins need young O-Linemen more than Cooley. If they can get a first round draft pick for Cooley then Trade him. Cooley is better off with a better team that will go to the Superbowl while the SKins rebuild.

Posted by: jercha | February 4, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins are not going to trade the most popular player. Please.

Posted by: jmpalomo | February 4, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

who starts these stupid rumors about trading cooley? why would you trade the most productive player you have ?

Posted by: samalmond40 | February 4, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

We need depth at the tight end so I say keep him. Mind you I am concerned about Chris coming back from such a serious injury and believe Fred Davis is ten times the athlete Chris is. With that being said Cooley deserves the opportunity to show he is %100 healthy. If he isn't fully recovered then we have Fred waiting in the wings.

Posted by: sjp879 | February 4, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I rather trade Fred Davis and a low round pick for 3rd round and draft a lineman. If it is question of Cooley or Davis, the answer is obvious.

Posted by: gatsu | February 4, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Trade Cooley? Uh..no. Trade a Pro Bowl caliber player and keep Davis who had 7-8 decent games in a throw away season. I see potential in Davis, but he still has huge problems blocking anybody. Lets not get crazy folks

Posted by: btgo | February 4, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Well, there is no chance Cooley will be traded this off season... so to the 1/5 Redskins fans that voted in this poll that we should trade him: Cooley isn't going anywhere, deal with it.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 4, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

wonder if Cooley would be part of a deal to bring Brandon Marshall and Tony Sheffler to D.C.?

Posted by: coparker5 | February 4, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

please don't trade Cooley! His is probably the only jersey I'd feel comfortable wearing in public at this point

Posted by: druppe01 | February 4, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

BeantownGreg1

are you still answering to mistakes you made 2 months ago? Much less two years ago. Why do we bloggers hold people we dont know to I higher standard than we hold ourselves?

Posted by: ged0386 | February 4, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Keep Cooley, trade Davis - IF you can get anything for a 3rd year tight end who has trouble blocking.

Posted by: shanks1 | February 4, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Cooley/Davis > Didier/Warren

Why not have depth at a critical position? Build through the draft and free agency, not through trading away young players.

Besides, Cooley should also compete with Sellers at FB, then you can run a two TE single-back set, run an an I-formation, offset, or veer without changing personnel.

That's what versatility at the HB/TE position can do for you.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | February 4, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Why not trade Fred Davis?

Posted by: richs91 | February 4, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"The next time he's at the game, he'd prefer to be on the field, wearing a Redskins jersey."

Uh, yea, me too. But the likelihood that either of us takes the Super Bowl field in a Redskins jersey is about the same infinitesimal odds as winning the lottery...or being attacked by a brown bear and a polar bear on the same day.

Posted by: soloman5000 | February 4, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Skins should trade cooley, but they never would knowing full well half the fanbase would switch allegiance to wherever they sent him. If anybody goes it will be Davis, and he'll be a better player then Cooley within a full season if he isnt already.

And everybody being impartial knows this.

Posted by: divi3 | February 4, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Cooley/Davis > Didier/Warren

Why not have depth at a critical position?

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | February 4, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

ProfessorWrightBSU, you are talking common sense here--which most people on these board absolutely despise. 2 good players at the same position is too much for some fans to handle.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 4, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

First of all-Einstein flunked high school algebra and all his teachers said he would not amount to anything!
Second-Seattle has said it wants to move up in the draft to get "their" QB.
Third- a TE like Cooley is worth a late first rounder and someone would jump on it
Fourth- Free agency goes to whomever spends enough do Snyder will go after what he wants-and who would better fit our RB solution than Taylor and Sproles?
Fifth-Okay maybe Al won't go to SF for 2 #1's but a #1 and #2 next year
Sixth- Al is not the answer as a NT- again free agency Snyder gets Wilfork and while Snyder is at it-he can buy Julius Peppers-he will spend money!
Finally-if we were to get those #1 picks, which really is possible with Shanny- the order of those picks would dictate the players I stated, MAYS, POUNCEY, DUCASSE!
WAIT AND WATCH WHAT SHANNY DOES...HE DID IT IN DENVER!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 4, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Colt Brennan not McCoy!
Each draft slot is assigned a value. #4 is worth Seattle's two 1st round picks. They want a QB. They will trade with us to get #4. We take OT Okung and OG Mile Iupati with the 2 picks. We trade Cooley for a mid-high 1st rd pick and we draft OT Trent Williams for the R tackle spot. In free agency sign both RB Chester Taylor and Darren Sproles as the 3rd down back and we give Colt Brennan his chance. With our 2nd round pick, we take a center, Maurkice Pouncey Florida 6-5 318. 4th round, take a backup QB in case Colt doesn't fit. Trade Albert Haynesworth for SF two 1st rd picks and draft S Taylor Mays Southern Cal 6-3 230 4.45 plays like the great Sean Taylor #21 and OT Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts 6-5 330 for rotation. To fill the hole left with Albert gone, sign free agent NT Vince Wilfork from the Patriots. Albert wasn't the player he should have been. There, with one draft, I have rebuilt this team to be a superbowl team. We end up with 5 first round picks. It's uncapped, we can spend anything we like!
One more thing-don't waste the #4 pick on a hit or miss QB! There is no Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or even dare I say it, Troy Aikman in this draft! Trade the pick and pic up our Oline!
Are you listening Shanny? This is what I would do if I were GM...

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 4, 2010 4:37 AM | Report abuse

...wish it was that easy...sounds like a fantasy team...I don't even know if Madden on PS3 or Xbox would allow all that...plus who do you think would pick up Hansworths big contract...maybe us if the Skins didn't already have him...good talk buddy

Posted by: Wagnerchristopher | February 4, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Colt Brennan not McCoy!
Each draft slot is assigned a value. #4 is worth Seattle's two 1st round picks. They want a QB. They will trade with us to get #4. We take OT Okung and OG Mile Iupati with the 2 picks. We trade Cooley for a mid-high 1st rd pick and we draft OT Trent Williams for the R tackle spot. In free agency sign both RB Chester Taylor and Darren Sproles as the 3rd down back and we give Colt Brennan his chance. With our 2nd round pick, we take a center, Maurkice Pouncey Florida 6-5 318. 4th round, take a backup QB in case Colt doesn't fit. Trade Albert Haynesworth for SF two 1st rd picks and draft S Taylor Mays Southern Cal 6-3 230 4.45 plays like the great Sean Taylor #21 and OT Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts 6-5 330 for rotation. To fill the hole left with Albert gone, sign free agent NT Vince Wilfork from the Patriots. Albert wasn't the player he should have been. There, with one draft, I have rebuilt this team to be a superbowl team. We end up with 5 first round picks. It's uncapped, we can spend anything we like!
One more thing-don't waste the #4 pick on a hit or miss QB! There is no Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or even dare I say it, Troy Aikman in this draft! Trade the pick and pic up our Oline!
Are you listening Shanny? This is what I would do if I were GM...

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 4, 2010 4:37 AM | Report abuse

...wish it was that easy...sounds like a fantasy team...I don't even know if Madden on PS3 or Xbox would allow all that...plus who do you think would pick up Hansworths big contract...maybe us if the Skins didn't already have him...good talk buddy

Posted by: Wagnerchristopher | February 4, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

REVISED COMMENT:
Colt Brennan not McCoy!

Each draft slot is assigned a value. #4 is worth Seattle's two 1st round picks. They want "THEIR" QB. They will trade with us to get #4.
We take OT Okung and OG Mike Iupati with the 2 picks.

We trade Cooley for a mid-high 1st rd pick and we draft OT Trent Williams or Ducasse for the R tackle spot. In free agency sign both RB Chester Taylor and Darren Sproles as the 3rd down back and we give Colt Brennan his chance.

With our 2nd round pick,we take a center, Maurkice Pouncey Florida 6-5 318.
4th round, take a backup QB in case Colt doesn't fit.
Trade Albert Haynesworth for SF ONE 1st rd pick and draft S Taylor Mays Southern Cal 6-3 230 4.45 plays like the great Sean Taylor #21
OT Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts 6-5 330 for rotation. To fill the hole left with Albert gone, sign free agent NT Vince Wilfork from the Patriots. Albert wasn't the player he should have been. There, with one draft, I have rebuilt this team to be a superbowl team. We end up with 4 first round picks. It's UNCAPPED, SNYDER can spend anything HE WANTS!
One more thing-I KNOW THAT the #4 pick is a waste FOR US(REDSKINS) on a hit or miss QB! There is no Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or even dare I say it, Troy Aikman in this draft! Trade the pick and pic up our Oline!
Are you listening Shanny? This is what I would do if I were GM...
I have been consistently right on who I would have picked in the last few years drafts.
First- I would have taken Adrian Peterson instead of Laron Landry
I would have taken Chris Johnson when we had the opportunity.
and about those football genius's who run the team-they have been drafting failures-I could have done better than them!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 4, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse


"But if you're going to trade one, Davis has better value... so do that. Pick a n00b when you get the chance - prolly not this year."

how does sleepy davis, a 2nd year guy have more value than a pro-bowler?

Posted by: vtsquirm1 | February 4, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Keep Cooley and Davis, a little Shake and Bake, A little stop and pop, a little wine and dine, a little rope a dope, with some cheese on it.

Posted by: iH8dallas

Yea,
I likey.......yeaaaaa boooooooyyyyede
Shake and bake, shake and bake, shake and bake

Posted by: dsquare | February 4, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Keep Cooley!!! With cooley and davis you cannot go wrong. I've said this before, cooley was playing great before he got hurt and he was jason's safety valve. Having a good young player like davis complimented cooley. You can do so much with two good TE's. It will be a bad move to get rid of either one.

Posted by: thetruth4real | February 4, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse


Move these 2 TEs to Tampa Bay Bucs and get Kellen Winslow Jnr.

Posted by: ezewuiheyahoocom | February 4, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

My only reason for voting "Trade Him" is for his own sake. He's too good a player to be dragged down by this dysfunctional team. I don't have high hopes that it will be any better under Shanahan. I like Cooley and want him to be a success in the league. I don't think he can do that here.

Posted by: patrick25 | February 4, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Hell no Cooley must not go!!
BTW F-Dallas

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | February 4, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Cooley is too slow to be a receiver. Convert him to fullback.

Posted by: whitaker200 | February 5, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Im the one that started the trade Cooley "talk" (skins.com) on this site so I thought I would answer you.The Skins need at least 2 stud olineman and a stud running back. They have two picks in which they might net immediate starters. The first and second round. Trading Cooley would give the Skins an extra second rounder and maybe an extra sixth or seventh. That would be 3 guys the Skins could plug in immediatly and improve this offense. A better running game and improved passing game sounds good to me.
The second reason I would unload Cooley is his piss poor blocking. He gets manhandled all the time on the line of scrimmage. There are two games that are seared into brain where Cooley missed KEY BLOCKS. The first one against the Rams on the goalline in the fourth quarter. Then against the the Lions on the goaline on fourth down. The way the linebacker just went right through Cooley to tackle Portis I thought we put the towel boy out there in his place.
Lastly, Cooley is a Prima Donna. It made me sick when he dyed his hair blonde for the Eagles Game and basically told everyone on the Skins that its all about him. Well its not all about Cooley and Fred Davis has made him expendable. Trade him to Oakland and the Skins can get themselves an extra starter. Go Skins!!!

Posted by: keithamcgregor | February 5, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Cooley and Davis could make the West Coast Offense run...but only with a good O line,and Moss is NOT the threat he was two years ago,no way,of course they didn't have the o line this year they had two years ago either so they didn't have time for the long plays to develope...O line is the key,real RB's to give threat to play action...and then let's see what happens...remember even this offense was ahead in the 4th in key games this year only to see the vanted defense give it away in the last few seconds.

Posted by: petebowling1 | February 5, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Spoke like a true Redskin.

Posted by: DesiHungama | February 5, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

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