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Posted at 6:00 AM ET, 12/21/2010

Doughty could be out this week, pressing Barnes into duty at safety

By Jason Reid

Safety Reed Doughty could be sidelined this week after suffering a concussion against Dallas, so cornerback Kevin Barnes could continue to work at safety.

Lacking depth at the position, the Redskins turned to Barnes, who has had few reps at the position. If Doughty does not play, the Redskins likely would activate recently signed safety Macho Harris, who was inactive during Sunday's 33-30 loss to Dallas.

The Redskins, however, could lean on Barnes again against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

"Well, first of all, he was the only one left," Coach Mike Shanahan said of the decision to play the second-year corner at safety against the Cowboys. He's a corner, we moved him over to safety, so thank God he stayed healthy.

"Kevin didn't get a lot of reps during the week. But he's had enough, just in case we had an emergency where we'd lose a guy, like we did with Reed. He was ready. I thought he did a fantastic job, for very few reps throughout the week, to go in there and play at the level he did. Very smart football player."

By Jason Reid  | December 21, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
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Comments


excuses, lies, last place finish

HTTR !

Posted by: hessone | December 21, 2010 6:39 AM | Report abuse

Everyone is dropping like flies late in the year. By the way, does anyone else think Kareem Moore is a poor safety that can't tackle to save his life. How many times did he try the ol' patty cake tackle this season.

Posted by: joeboggs | December 21, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Geez, this might actually force Shanahan to play Macho Harris...can't believe he didn't play in Dallas, what with the need to "see what we've got" and all...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

By the way, does anyone else think Kareem Moore is a poor safety that can't tackle to save his life. How many times did he try the ol' patty cake tackle this season.

Posted by: joeboggs | December 21, 2010 7:30 AM


What cracks me up is that Haslett was talking him up before the season, saying he's a lot like O.J. Atogwe. Damn shame we could have had the REAL O.J. Atogwe in the offseason...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

What cracks me up is that Haslett was talking him up before the season, saying he's a lot like O.J. Atogwe. Damn shame we could have had the REAL O.J. Atogwe in the offseason...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 7:35 AM
Exactly, I was expecting big things from Moore with all the hype and how everyone couldn't wait to get him back after the injury. I have never seen a worse tackler in my life.

Posted by: joeboggs | December 21, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Kareem Moore can't tackle, can't cover, can't blitz and is out of position all the time. Witten had his way with him all game and the stiff arm should have been the last straw for the coaches. The defense really is bad but the question is how much better would they have been if the offense weren't 3 and out much of the time and if Kareem Moore made plays? Don't know but if performance tells Shanahan who remains with the team next year, Kareem Moore is out and wouldn't even make a UFL team.

Posted by: getitritegov | December 21, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse


Geez, this might actually force Shanahan to play Macho Harris...can't believe he didn't play in Dallas, what with the need to "see what we've got" and all...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 7:30 AM |
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shanahan won't play him because he sucks in practice

Posted by: hessone | December 21, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Sucking in practice has kept players from seeing playing time for decades.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 21, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

I think the fact of the matter with Moore is Barnes is already a better free safety and he's only been playing the position for a week. Why did it take the team so long to play Barnes in that spot?

As far as Macho, the dude is slow. He struggles in man coverage, and a blitzing defense like the Redskins run occasionally calls for a safety to drop into man coverage. To me, we already have two guys on the roster who are similar: Horton and Doughty - plus they know the defense better. Harris is spackling and won't make the team next year. What the Redskins need are a few safeties with speed and who can play man defense. Moore was supposed to bring these abilities but someone along the way forgot to tell him he needed to tackle also.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 21, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Having been critical of Moore's tackling, he is much better in coverage. I wonder if the team has considered just swapping Barnes and Moore's positions in the offseason. Moore might end up being a better corner - especially in the nickel packages - and Barnes is the kind of hitter that could thrive at safety...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 21, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Sucking in practice has kept players from seeing playing time for decades.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 21, 2010 7:54 AM
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The way some of the players have played in games, I wonder if they don't practice at sucking...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 21, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

I have never seen a worse tackler in my life.

Posted by: joeboggs | December 21, 2010 7:40 AM


Fred Smoot, DHall, and Deion Sanders all send their regards.

RSH, co-sign on Barnes...because of his size and skill set, I can't imagine why they wouldn't at least try him out at safety in practice. That dude is a heavy hitter than can blow people up...if he can learn to cover, he could be a nice compliment to Landry.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse


Having been critical of Moore's tackling, he is much better in coverage.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 21, 2010 8:02 AM |
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that's a stretch.

the class of 2008 will all be gone next year, with MK getting injured during ota's or training camp. thank vinny for all of his football knowledge.

Posted by: hessone | December 21, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Play Barnes!

Play Barnes!

Moore just flat sucks. He isn't even good depth.

And let's see what Cooke can do on the line.

Posted by: edvar | December 21, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

the class of 2008 will all be gone next year, with MK getting injured during ota's or training camp.

Posted by: hessone | December 21, 2010 8:12 AM


Please...MK will get hurt putting his cleats on to go out to OTAs...and that's if he doesn't pull a hammy getting outta bed in the morning...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Everyone is dropping like flies late in the year. By the way, does anyone else think Kareem Moore is a poor safety that can't tackle to save his life. How many times did he try the ol' patty cake tackle this season.

Posted by: joeboggs | December 21, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but I bet the Cowpie Trolls will be in full force today!!!

Moore is a good athlete, and better in coverage than making open field tackles. My problems with him aren't just the tackling issues, it's the fact that he's still yet to play a full season without getting injured. We need an upgrade at FS, too bad we have more pressing needs on the line and OLB, otherwise we might target that in the 1st round. Maybe there's a FA we can go after, Otogwe might be available again.

Posted by: monk811 | December 21, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Otogwe = Atogwe

Posted by: monk811 | December 21, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

In 1 game Grossman has about 28% of the TDs that McNabb threw all season long.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 20, 2010 4:48 PM

Watch your back Brian Burke...iH8 is fast on your heels!

When exactly did our dive ass homeboy hess completely jump over to pabrians camp?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 21, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

I really have not been upset with Shanny as a coach. I actually think he has done ok with the players they have. We only have about 5 to 10 players that other teams would actually want. What concerns me is Shanny as the personnel guy. I know we have Allen but we all know Shanny has final say on players. The McNabb trade was a mistake. We all wanted it to work and understood it to some degree but it failed. Thinking he could make AH play NT failed. Remember Haslett saying you have to have a stud NT for the 3-4 to work. We now have the proof. Shanny's problem is the mess he walked in to. The shelves are bare and so every personnel mistake he makes is going to be glaring. The fan base does not make it any easier. We want to rebuild because we know we need it but we want to win now too because we are so tired of losing.

Posted by: B2WIN | December 21, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

When exactly did our dive ass homeboy hess completely jump over to pabrians camp?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 21, 2010 8:36 AM

He's the original. You missed his early days.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 21, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

brown, good point on Atogwe, compounded by the fact that he'd have cost the team nothing but a contract, compounded even further by all the regrettable moves the team made(LJ, Roydell, Galloway, McNabb), and the fact that the defense has been a sieve all year long...eh...oh well, another year wasted....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 21, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

could have got atogwe really cheap and got a real player not some permanet back-up with reed, seems like when it comes to positions of need like fs shanny and allen were cheap last offseason but they had moore to take a look at but he turned out to be horrid considering he is always hurt! Wish we would have got atogwe! One less hole to fill but oh well that's what cheap is I guess playing career back-ups as starters when they should always be back-ups! Sucks tho cause we knew what we had in doughty not like he is some young buck!

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 21, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: PlayAction | December 21, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Hessone and pabrian are sock puppets aren't they?

Posted by: monk811 | December 21, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

mistamoe is on the NFL beat....


As much as we hate on them, we'd like to flip off two birds: ravens-eagles.

Folks brag on Brady while Joe Flacco is his low-key mini-me.

Pick the guy you'd like to return a punt at any point in and NFL game:

a. Devin Hester

b. DeSean Jackson

The issue is not that the redskins and McNabb will divorce, but how.

Jason Campbell isn't great, but his play has made the Oakland Raiders good.

The DC SportsBog is hands down better than RI Nation--deal with it.

'The Fighter' with Christian Bale and Mark Wahlberg looks like a winner and worth seeing.

The Kansas City Chiefs have the best ground game in the NFL.

Andy Reid's decision to trade his All Pro quarterback in order to give Kevin Kolb playing time has obviously gone wrong.

Mexican sports reporter hottie Inez Seinz is still waiting in the jets' locker room hoping to interview naked football players.

The stillers without Troy Polamalu is like the Pips without Gladys.

Somebody ask Jason La Canfora, "How's Rocco doin'?"

Arkansas v. Ohio State is the second best bowl game on the calender.

Frak is the blogga who is also the Mayor of the Island of Misfit Toys.

Pete Carroll is wondering why the Seahawks haven't been granted the chance to play in a bowl game.

A year from now, folks will be talking about the Obama Comeback.

Once the Niners acquire a real quaterback, they will be a threat in the NFC West: right now, they are just disappointing.

As are the Cardinals.

Forrest Gump-lite Eli Manning always looks as if he's waiting in line for the short bus on the day it's not scheduled to arrive.

Happy Holidays to whomever reads the silliness I submit to this gloryhole, er, I mean blog.

The Auburn Tigers will beat the Oregon Ducks.

Beep-beep was better when he was talent_evaluator.

The folks who said Tim Tebow couldn't play in the NFL--like moe--might have to line up for their plate 'o crow.

Real or fake--which is better?: Christmas trees or breasts

If the chargers franchise tag VJAX, Julio Jones, Robert Chapman, and Justin Blackmon will all see their draft stock rise.

Fastest fall from NFL grace, pick'em: Shawne Merriman, Matt Hassleback, or Jake Delhomme?

Will somebody explain how the falcons are 12-2 and no one has noticed?

Andre Johnson just punched another Titan in the head, what, you didn't see it?

And no one has noticed that despite the bad season, real redskins fans support the team no matter what.

Why?: we ain't fake.

We real.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 21, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse


When exactly did our dive ass homeboy hess completely jump over to pabrians camp?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 21, 2010 8:36 AM

He's the original. You missed his early days.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 21, 2010 8:40 AM |
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thanks for the compliment 44

sorry it took you so long to get with the program playaction. now take this post and you and monk use it the rest of the day with your toddler mentality

Posted by: hessone | December 21, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Greg, it just chaps my ass looking around the league at some of the bargain-basement pickups we could have had to fortify the roster in lieu of picks...Atogwe, Jamal Williams, Brian Westbrook, Owen Schmitt, just off the top of my head...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Oshiomogho Atogwe was not a FA, he was a RFA that was given the franchise tag by St. Louis and the tag was the non-exclusive franchise which allows other teams to negotiate with Atogwe but if any signed him that team has to give the Rams two first-round picks as compensation.

In June 2010 he signed a 5-year contract worth $32 million with the Rams.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 21, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

For all the b*tching and moaning about the 3-4, sure seems that injuries in the secondary have been overlooked as a major contributor to defensive struggles this season. Kind of reminds me of '06, when Grilliams D dropped like a turd (9th to 31st) despite having largely the same cast.

We see how that worked out for him (and us). Thankfully, we don't have Cerrato bringing us Adam Archulleta-man-run-by any more, and hopefully the nightmare that was the '08 draft won't revisit us, but I guess real fans have to divorce themselves from reality and expect instant tea to be delicious and fast.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 21, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

RSH

I wonder if the team has considered just swapping Barnes and Moore's positions in the offseason.

There are some of us who felt trading Justin Tyron away made no sense.

The team could've switched Barnes to safety during the summer and cut one of it's depth safeties (Horton).

That means Tyron is the fourth corner and you're using a big corner (Barnes) to play safety--and thus take advantage of his coverage skill set deep (a major upgrade).

Look at how Antrel Rolle--a former corner--allows the Giants to put three safeties on the field (they play with 1 corner) knowing each guy has size, speed, and coverage ability.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 21, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Kareem Moore was a 6th round pick and all the scouts had him listed as a project with long term upside. You can bash him all you want but he's playing exactly like a 6th round pick would play. We have a lack of talent on this team and that's because we give all of our draft picks away for 1-2 year rentals of washed up players.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 21, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Schumot smack!

Posted by: WorstSeat | December 21, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

SNYDER PROMISES TO KEEP SEASON “ALIVE IN MY HEART,
AND OBSERVE IT EACH DAY OF THE YEAR”

POTOMAC, MD – Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder shocked holiday guests at his Potomac, MD, mansion this morning when they awoke to find him running around and shouting something incoherent about discovering the “true meaning” of the NFL football season.

Snyder claimed to have been visited the night before by the ghost of former owner Jack Kent Cooke, who warned Snyder that he would meet three spirits later that night, and he should heed their warnings or suffer the consequences.

While Snyder initially dismissed Cooke’s presence as “more gravy than grave “ -– he soon awoke to discover the Ghost of Football Seasons Past -– who took Snyder on a tour with some of the best players in team history to review the franchise’s once-proud legacy. Snyder looked on in amazement while generations of fans cheered games that were fought hard and won proud -– while bringing glory to the city.

He also met a younger version of his self -- a short and precocious child of modest means and temperament -- who even then secretly nursed a hidden rage and jealousy toward fans who could actually afford to attend Redskin football games, when he couldn’t do the same.

Soon, the scene faded and Snyder met by the Ghost of Football Season Present -– who told Snyder to grab the hem of his robe as they flew to the host cities of other NFL franchises. Several teams were already selling post-season playoff tickets, while their coaching staffs worked tirelessly to help their teams finish strong going into post-season play.

And beneath the Christmas trees of countless homes around the nation, brightly wrapped packages held team jerseys and other memorabilia that fans would proudly share and wear on Christmas Day and many days to follow. Snyder also visited several homes in the Washington area –- home of his own franchise -– where such packages were far fewer -– as many Redskin fans have grown weary of Snyder’s continuing mismanagement and apathy toward the fans.

Finally, Snyder met the grim specter of the Ghost of Future Football Seasons -– a frighteningly silent, gray and soulless spirit -– sort of like FEDEX Field in the last few games of the last 10 or 12 seasons –- when all hope has been lost and any possible chance of joy and merriment long forgotten.

Snyder was told to look long and hard at the thousands of empty seats around the stadium –- because it would only get worse. And in that moment of soul searching, Snyder finally declared, “I can change, yes really I can.”

He added, “And I can change this team too. I can help it become more competitive, and less of a soul-sucking experience for players and fans alike.”

And as Snyder awoke to yet another post-season when his team would again fail to compete for championships, legacies and glory, he declared: “Get me Vinny in here now. I’ve been missing that SOB something fierce for too damn long!"

Posted by: Vic1 | December 21, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

sorry it took you so long to get with the program playaction. now take this post and you and monk use it the rest of the day with your toddler mentality

Posted by: hessone | December 21, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Toddler??? That's an insult, I'd like to think my mentality is closer to 2nd or 3rd grade! What grade would you be in he$$?

Posted by: monk811 | December 21, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

The folks who said Tim Tebow couldn't play in the NFL--like moe--might have to line up for their plate 'o crow.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 21, 2010 8:48 AM


Moe, to be fair, that looked like a college game the way they were using him...option plays galore and dude only attempted something like 14 passes. Hardly a big "F U" to his critics...

Diesel, Atogwe was franchised, released from the franchise tag, nobody as much as kicked his tires, and he ended up re-signing with the Rams. So for awhile, he was actually on the market and available for anyone to sign.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

too damn long

describes just about EVERYTHING you post...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 21, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Funny stuff, Vic1!

Posted by: smurff1 | December 21, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I thought that the rams didn't pick up his contract or something like that at the start of the summer and he became a ufa for a couple weeks but didn't get any offers and re-signed with the rams! I may be wrong can't really remeber

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 21, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I thought that the rams didn't pick up atogwe's contract or something like that at the start of the summer and he became a ufa for a couple weeks but didn't get any offers and re-signed with the rams! I may be wrong can't really remember

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 21, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse


Toddler??? That's an insult, I'd like to think my mentality is closer to 2nd or 3rd grade! What grade would you be in he$$?

Posted by: monk811 | December 21, 2010 9:13 AM |
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no monk, it's a compliment. now you and playaction have at it

Posted by: hessone | December 21, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

RSH

I wonder if the team has considered just swapping Barnes and Moore's positions in the offseason.

There are some of us who felt trading Justin Tyron away made no sense.

The team could've switched Barnes to safety during the summer and cut one of it's depth safeties (Horton).

That means Tyron is the fourth corner and you're using a big corner (Barnes) to play safety--and thus take advantage of his coverage skill set deep (a major upgrade).

Look at how Antrel Rolle--a former corner--allows the Giants to put three safeties on the field (they play with 1 corner) knowing each guy has size, speed, and coverage ability.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 21, 2010 9:04 AM
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I didn't really understand the Tryon trade, or not moving Barnes sooner. They knew they needed more coverage guys with speed out there. Doughty and Horton are great near the LOS but neither is going to win an award for coverage skills. They knew Landry was going to be 100% better as a strong safety who dropped back into coverage less. Hindsight is 20/20, but at this point in the season, it really seems obvious they made a mistake.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 21, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I really have not been upset with Shanny as a coach. I actually think he has done ok with the players they have. We only have about 5 to 10 players that other teams would actually want...

Posted by: B2WIN | December 21, 2010 8:37 AM


Given the results on the field, and the limited talent on the team, what exactly has Shanny done as a coach lately to distiguish himself from Zorn?

Shanahan's last 2 seasons:
2008 (Den): 8-8
2010: 5-??

Zorn's only 2 seasons:
2008: 8-8
2009: 4-12

Posted by: Alan4 | December 21, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

FS, add it to the list. Which is getting very long at this point...

Posted by: Stu27 | December 21, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

yea, i had higher hopes for moore, though he had his share of takeaways early in the season, his play and lack of tackling ability is pissing me off and dhall is definitely a more pathetic tackler than moore, but dhall knows that, that's his style

and our beloved rookie left tackle is playing very poorly of late, im going to assume he's been hurt most of the year, but that way he got fried on sunday does not sit well with me, it's like he's given up on the season and the dude comes off as a real d-bag..... he better get his sheet together for next yr

barnes didnt play all that poorly at safety, hope to see him play well the next 2 games

Posted by: retroskins14 | December 21, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Wow...so some of the same people wanting to trade players for picks are trying to say the Tryon trade didn't make sense? SMH...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Wow...so some of the same people wanting to trade players for picks are trying to say the Tryon trade didn't make sense? SMH...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 9:41 AM
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I never liked the Tryon trade, but I strongly endorse trading old players that do not fit the scheme. Tryon was neither one of those. I didn't understand signing Buchanan and trading Tryon. Buchanan hasn't been that great this year.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 21, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

The skins' list of offseason needs is actually not very long at all:

Offense
Defense

That's it!

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 21, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Refresh my memeory. What did we get for Tryon?

Posted by: smurff1 | December 21, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

So, today we play the woulda, coulda, shoulda game huh?

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 21, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 21, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget special teams and coaching staff!

Posted by: Vic1 | December 21, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I never liked the Tryon trade, but I strongly endorse trading old players that do not fit the scheme. Tryon was neither one of those. I didn't understand signing Buchanan and trading Tryon. Buchanan hasn't been that great this year.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 21, 2010 9:47 AM


That's why trading in the NFL isn't as widespread as in other leagues...the only guys worth trading for are the young players with upside. Nobody wants to part with those guys. This ain't Madden...the old guys we don't want are also old guys that nobody else wants either...or if they do, they'll take 'em on the cheap and not give up a draft choice for 'em.

I mean, unless your name is Vinny Cerrato...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 21, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

@ Original_etrod

You left out special teams--specifically, P and K.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 21, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 21, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget special teams and coaching staff!

Posted by: Vic1 | December 21, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse


Dont forget a heated field then an indoor practice dome. Not built by those metrodome folks.

Posted by: Stu27 | December 21, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

etrod has been on fire as of lately.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 21, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

on sunday i saw a play where the dallas runner stiff-armed moore (?) in the facemask. now, i'm pretty sure if moore had touched the runner's facemask, it would have been a penalty. why isn't it one when it goes the other way?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 21, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 21, 2010 10:05 AM

Offensive players are allowed to stiff-arm a defender in the mask, but not open his hand and grab it.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 21, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Tryon: In the same light as the Dennis Morris trade, my guess is Tryon probably was not going to make the roster for whatever reason. Shanahan decided to move him for some value instead of cutting him.

Don't we continually b!tch about not getting value for guys and letting them go? Yet, Shanahan does get value for Tryon and peeps are STILL complaining...

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | December 21, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

MColeman51,
is that just the runner, or can any offensive player facemask, w/open hand, a defender?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 21, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

I totally agree with the assessment of K. Moore. Has any seen he make a play on the ball? He is the freaking free safety and is never in position to make a play on the ball, and dont even get me started on his tackling!

On top of offensive line help, defensive line and linebacker help, wide receiver and running back...now add free safety to the needs list.

Posted by: gallrick | December 21, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of facemask penalties...Sam Hurd's near decapitation of Brandon Banks late in the game is the most egregious facemask I've ever seen w/o a call. Even if the refs didn't see a hand on a mask, do they really think a player could be twisted like a corkscrew w/o the leverage of a mask?

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 21, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I totally agree with the assessment of K. Moore. Has any seen he make a play on the ball? He is the freaking free safety and is never in position to make a play on the ball, and dont even get me started on his tackling!

On top of offensive line help, defensive line and linebacker help, wide receiver and running back...now add free safety to the needs list.

Posted by: gallrick | December 21, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 21, 2010 10:11 AM

I should've said "runner" and not "offensive player". Without the ball, it's covered by "illegal hands to the face".

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 21, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

MColeman51,
thanks ref.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 21, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

kareem moore is stanley richards bastard child, lord knows he has his tackling skills.

Posted by: drewkinnear | December 21, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I would much rather see Rogers at safety. Both are good tacklers, but Barnes may have a future in the league as a cornerback and Rogers isn't worth keeping at cornerback. In my opinion, next to DT, the Redskins greatest need this year was a backup free safety, as Doughty and crew were very miscast in pass coverage roles when Moore went down, leading to most of the big plays and touchdown passes the Redskins allowed. Rogers has good speed and above average cover skills, so he might be worth keeping around as the primary backup at all 4 db positions, which would make him valuable to the team if he returns next season. We need to find out what he can do at safety so we can decide whether to offer him a contract. If someone wants to outbid, then happy trails.

Posted by: zickzack | December 21, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

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