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Portis: Shanahan 'perfect guy for the job'

We already know that running back Clinton Portis would like to be reunited with his former coach, Mike Shanahan, in Washington. In his weekly appearance on ESPN 980's "The John Thompson Show," Portis provided more details about what Redskins fans -- and Redskins players -- can expect if Shanahan becomes coach. At the very least, he says, things under Shanahan won't be like they were under Jim Zorn.

"I think [Shanahan] would be the perfect guy for the job," said Portis. "I think coach Shanahan is one of those guys who you either going to play for or you're going to be gone. It's not going to be any in-between, you're not going to, like the situations we have now, where people didn't know where they stood, or who's getting in trouble. I think coach Shanahan will [stop] that. You either going to do what you're supposed to be doing or you're not going to be here. It's that simple."

As an example, Portis mentioned how quarterback Brian Griese and defense end Trevor Pryce were both highly-paid Broncos who were shipped out when they didn't mesh with what Shanahan wanted.

Of course, Portis didn't mention that he also left Denver after two years and came to Washington to continue his career.

"I think with Coach Shanahan, he's a straight shooter, if you're doing the stuff you're supposed to be doing, you're fine with him," Portis said. "If you're not, no matter how much you're getting paid, he's going to get you up out of there."

Portis said that accountability would be a dominant theme of the Shanahan era. For players, he said, "you either get in line or you get gone." But at the same time, Portis thinks the leash won't necessarily be a short one.

"I think coach Shanahan give you an opportunity to be a man. He's not going to come in with many rules and many guidelines," Portis said.

"He's going to tell you what he expects out of you, and it's not going to be second-, third- or fourth chances. He's going to tell you what he expects, what he's looking for and you either going to give it or you're going to be done."

Also, Portis doesn't expect Shanahan to come here and limit himself to Xs and Os. In Denver, Shanahan was the personnel guy, and he's the one who helped broker the trade of Portis to Washington.

"If he do come, I think they going to give him full control to change this team and run this team the way he want to run it," Portis said.

"Along with Bruce [Allen, general manager] and Mr. [Daniel] Snyder, get this team going in the right direction."

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Can't get enough of Portis? He also talked at length about his relationship with owner Daniel Snyder. Dan Steinberg has more at the D.C. Sports Bog.

By Rick Maese  |  January 5, 2010; 4:35 PM ET
Categories:  Mike Shanahan  
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Comments

First to wish for Portis to move on.

Posted by: League-Source | January 5, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

might not be remembering right, but didn't he also trash his o-line several times to the media?

Posted by: closer44 | January 5, 2010 4:40 PM

Forgot about that...I believe you are correct!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 5, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

1st?

Posted by: papashake | January 5, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Portis is not over his concussion if he thinks he has a place on Mike Shanahan's team.

Posted by: League-Source | January 5, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Dude can pass block and run his mouth. Thats about it. I hope that dude is done here. 1 more Jersey to retire along with Champ, Brad Johnson, and LaVar.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 5, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

might not be remembering right, but didn't he also trash his o-line several times to the media?

Posted by: closer44 | January 5, 2010 4:40 PM

He said something like "imagine how many yards I be putting up if I was running behind a real line."

Posted by: League-Source | January 5, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV Per your last post.

Yes the cats out and Rock was a D*** for not confronting CP. But still does not make Portis right.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 5, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Dear Clinton,

Thanks for all the hard work in between the tackles.

I was there at FedEX to see your first carry as a Redskin, 9/12/04 vs. Tampa Bay.

Nice run!

It's obvious, however, you can no longer make cuts in the open field. Plus, you've lost your burst. Two bad ankles will do that to a man, and all those concussions, and now this.

You're ancient for a RB.

Play nice and the new regime may keep you around for another year.

If not, see ya...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I guarantee you one of the discussions going on between Allen and Shanny is we have to get rid of this guy.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 5, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Just when you thought Portis couldn't be any dumber, he does something like this and totally redeems himself.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 5, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow...Just Wow...

We have alot of 'Rock Cartwrights' on the blog today....ROTFLMMAO!!

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 5, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

At least he signs his name to everything he has to say.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 5, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

He doesn't have to sign his name to what he says.

His command of the English language is a dead giveaway.

Posted by: ksquare | January 5, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Portis said: 'he wished he "could go to a team for one week with the best offensive line, or the team with the best scheme, and switch places with their back and see how others would do in this system."

Posted by: priceisright | January 5, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

This is rich, hearing Portis talk about accountability and performing.

Posted by: jiacinto | January 5, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

HEy CP does that include your lame self practice ready? Not cryin' to Danny? Get gone.

Posted by: ridgely1 | January 5, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

True, Red, I was sad to see Jim Zen drive off in his Porsche Cayenne.

That man got a raw deal with the whole lack of an offensive line / Vinny Cerratto shabingus.

Mike Shanahan will fix this mess here and Jim Zorn will become a valuable component on another coaches staff.

No harm - no foul.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

"I guarantee you one of the discussions going on between Allen and Shanny is we have to get rid of this guy"

If they weren't talking about before they sure are now.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 5, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

wow... just wow...

Just say wow.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 5, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Wow, probably the least anti-portis piece that JReid has put forth in a while. He still couldn't resist one dig about how Portis left denver. Funny how Reid's slanted reporting has slowly but surely shaped the thinking of the commenters on here to hate portis. 320+ carries in 4 of his 6 years here, yet everyone can't understand why he might be too beat up to practice.

Reid should be GM so the team could be filled with guys that were nice to reporters.

Posted by: gclyde | January 5, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Portis has been a personality since he got here, and I'm sure he was that way in DEN, and Shanahan knows him. Methinks Portis is talking the political line, knowing that at this point in his career, he has nowhere to go.

Posted by: sament | January 5, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

He said something like "imagine how many yards I be putting up if I was running behind a real line."

Posted by: League-Source


Yeah, good job Leagues.

Go ahead and exaggerate the dudes comments.

Portis was talking about how Adrian Peterson was putting up his numbers, and how that if he was running behind the same line Peterson did he would have similar numbers.

Wow, some of you are motherfu_ing amazing!!!

GO READ!!!!: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/11/AR2008091103216.html

Where, ANYWHERE in that article is he saying something that isn't true? The line was relatively healthy last year -- he produced. When they started stacking EIGHT in the box, and had to lean on the passing game led by Zorn and Campbell, they couldn't, resulting in the 2-6 finish.

It's my understanding that he had bone spurs in his ankle this season. Motherfuc_ing BONE SPURS in his ankle! How the fu_k is he supposed to rip off 100 yard games with limited movement in his ankles?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 5, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

So I guess that means you're gone, CP.

Posted by: gringoinmiami | January 5, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Just say wow.


Posted by: dfbovey | January 5, 2010 4:58 PM

Inside joke...

Like The Post...

If you don't get it, You don't get it...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 5, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

True, Red.

Was sad to see Jim Zen drive off in his Porsche Cayenne.

He got a raw deal with the whole lack of an offensive line / Vinny Cerratto shabingus. Plus, they knew what they were getting when they hired him.

Zen was under qualified as a head coach, and now he's somewhat over qualified to be a position coach.

Mike Shanahan may or may not fix this mess here, but Jim Zen will surely become a valuable part of another coaches staff.

Holmgren, for one, would love to have him on board.

No harm - no foul.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Funny how Reid's slanted reporting has slowly but surely shaped the thinking of the commenters on here to hate portis.

Posted by: gclyde | January 5, 2010 4:58 PM |

Huh? You don't think it was Portis himself who did that? You really believe Reid can shape anyone's thinking?

You need someone to help you shape your own thinking -- it's about as ill-formed as a jelly fish.

Posted by: League-Source | January 5, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

"Of course, Portis didn't mention that he also left Denver after two years and came to Washington to continue his career."

Uh, because he was traded by the Broncos to the Redskins.

Posted by: mirrorball | January 5, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I've always thought the guy was a cancer, but also that he was smart...in a self-serving kind of way. After this rant...I think I need to rethink that. He either wants out...which is dumb because he's not going to get the same money anywhere else. And if he actually wants to stay (which the sucking up to Shanahan would indicate), this stupid diatribe is not going to do anything to engratiate him to his teammates. Also dumb.

I think I liked him more when I thought he was a savy cancer.

BA & MS can do so much to get off on the right foot by sending him packing.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 5, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Worth a read. Seems sportswriting in the 1980's was also better than it is now (except for Boswll). Wait, is that a cheap shot?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/01/joe_bugel_and_the_birth_of_the.html

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 5, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

He got a raw deal with the whole lack of an offensive line / Vinny Cerratto shabingus.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:03 PM

He got "a raw deal"? They gave him a raw goose and then he proceeded to cook his own goose.

He would have coached himself out of a job under the best of circumstances. He is just not up to the job. He failed in too many ways.

Posted by: League-Source | January 5, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes, I wish I could walk up to Clinton Portis and say, "you know, you are a forking idiot!"

Posted by: knight1977 | January 5, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

All these portis haters will be the same people cheering when he goes over 100 yards regularly next season.. i wish i could take all yall out back and put yall out of yall trader a$$ misery!

Posted by: cocodc1 | January 5, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=121167

Amazing! The fans of the team he USED to play for show him more love than the fans of the CURRENT team he plays for. Usually the fans of the team a player USED to play for hold a grudge, whether real or not.

All you read about is how there offensive line is better (which it is), and how that they wish he played for some place else.

You know what? Fu_k it. I hope they cut ties with Portis too... then I hope he goes to another team, preferably a NFC East opponent, and lights the Redskins the fu_k up twice a year.

I bet he still can if he ran behind a "real line". Because here in D.C., they have s_it on the offensive line. When Derrick Dockery is your top linemen, you have a problem.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 5, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Source.

Tell me, in all honesty, Zorn could have done much better with that roster Cerratto gave him.

Ok, maybe we could have gone 6-10 if he is competent as head coach, but surely not much better than that?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

All these portis haters will be the same people cheering when he goes over 100 yards regularly next season.. i wish i could take all yall out back and put yall out of yall trader a$$ misery!

Posted by: cocodc1 | January 5, 2010 5:08 PM
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HAHAAHAAHAHA....still laughing. Portis isn't going over anything next season. He'll be smoking weed in front of the flat screen Little Prick Danny and Shannahan give him as a going away present.

The due has lost a step, is injury prone, is a bad teammate, and to sum it up.....WASHED UP.

Posted by: knight1977 | January 5, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

He said something like "imagine how many yards I be putting up if I was running behind a real line."

Posted by: League-Source

Yeah, good job Leagues. Go ahead and exaggerate the dudes comments.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 5, 2010 5:02 PM

No exaggeration. Right here, Red:

"I wish I could go to a team for one week with the best offensive line, or the team with the best scheme, and switch places with their back and see how others would do in this system," Portis said, sitting on a couch the other day at Redskins Park."

Throwing his teammates, coaches under the bus. Blaming them for what he couldn't get done. He went out with a concussion and suddenly off the street free agents were ripping off runs that Portis couldn't make.

Posted by: League-Source | January 5, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

It's still a kid's game, and when you can't laugh, you better get out." Bostic

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 5, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse


Wow, probably the least anti-portis piece that JReid has put forth in a while. He still couldn't resist one dig about how Portis left denver. Funny how Reid's slanted reporting has slowly but surely shaped the thinking of the commenters on here to hate portis. 320+ carries in 4 of his 6 years here, yet everyone can't understand why he might be too beat up to practice.

Reid should be GM so the team could be filled with guys that were nice to reporters.

Posted by: gclyde | January 5, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

It's my understanding that he had bone spurs in his ankle this season. Motherfuc_ing BONE SPURS in his ankle! How the fu_k is he supposed to rip off 100 yard games with limited movement in his ankles?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 5, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

...and that's exactly why Portis should be kicked to the curb.

He's beat up. He's over the hill because of the pounding he's taken, and the sheer number of carries.

Finally, generally speaking, RBs don't recover from bone spurs and arthritis. Once a runner goes, he's usually done.

Your own defenses/excuses for Portis' poor recent performances remind me of the defenses of Soup (coming from people like me). The main difference, of course, is that QBs can and do get better with age -- while RBs almost never do.

Posted by: jcabana | January 5, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Red,

You're dreaming.

I don't hate CP, but that dude's days of "lighting anybody up" are looooooong gone.

and through no fault of his own.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

All these portis haters will be the same people cheering when he goes over 100 yards regularly next season.. i wish i could take all yall out back and put yall out of yall trader a$$ misery!

Posted by: cocodc1 | January 5, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse
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Is that you Clinton?

I cheer when a player or team gives me reason to. When's the last time Portis gave us 100 yards?

Posted by: dfbovey | January 5, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

My bad a little ticked off and tired... bad combination:

"All you read about is how there offensive line is better (which it is), and how that they wish he played for some place else."

Should read: All you read about is how their offensive line is better (which it is) and how they wish Portis was back in Denver.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 5, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

League-Source--I fully agree with you. Yes, Portis had lemons to deal with in regard to the offensive line; but, faced with those lemons, he failed to make lemonade.

Posted by: jiacinto | January 5, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"JC has not shown himself to be a leader, so why is he our captain? Portis is right that there is not a leader on the offensive side of the ball."


This is like saying because everyone voted for the president, he's not the leader as he's not shown himself to be.

And someone remind Portis that his position is an offensive position, too.

Perhaps he doesn't get that his not being voted captain is something more than a suggestion or insult.

I guess he feels guys who regularly practice are supposed to select as a leader someone who doesn't.

This whole episode only proves why guaranteed NFL contracts make sense only to the player and agent who want one.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 5, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I think we parse Portis words too much. He speaks from the gut. He doesn't do like Obama and pick every word carefully out of his mouth.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 5, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

He went out with a concussion and suddenly off the street free agents were ripping off runs that Portis couldn't make.

Posted by: League-Source | January 5, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

What are you talking about?
Betts had a few good quarters and then got hurt.

Where you even watching the games when Ganther, Mason, and Rock were the running backs? These 3 were gaining like 60 yds combined some games.

Rock had 1 good game and the league figured him out.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 5, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

If it wasn't for his hefty contract, I wouldn't mind Portis staying. Say what you want about him, but he goes all out on the field and should still be familiar with Shanahan's system. And nobody comes close to his pass blocking..

Posted by: ga8085 | January 5, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Source,

The goose Cerrato gave Zorn to cook was emaciated, and riddled with maggots.

plus, they revoked his cooking privileges.

kicked the man off his own grill!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

"Funny how Reid's slanted reporting has slowly but surely shaped the thinking of the commenters on here to hate portis."

Bro', I'd like to remind you that some of us were against the Portis acquisition way back when you believed there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

And what, you think we went away?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 5, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

The skins have a short list of reliable proven veteran producers. Portis is near the top of that list for sure.

We gotta pay him, we don't have any RBs, I wish the fans would stop complaining about one of the few bright spots of the painful Snyder era.

Portis led this team in rushing again, the problem isnt him but the lackbof depth behind him AND in front of him. Same with Campbell. JC isnt the problem its no line and no depth at RB

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 5, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Keep in mind Daniels, Wynn, & Rock never mentioned Portis by name...

Daniels offers this quote:

"If something is said that is not directed at you but directed at everybody and you get mad then doesn't that make you guilty in a sense"

YES

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 5, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Should read: All you read about is how their offensive line is better (which it is) and how they wish Portis was back in Denver.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 5, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Understandable. I wish Champ Bailey was still here.

Posted by: ksquare | January 5, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Just when you thought Portis couldn't be any dumber, he does something like this and totally redeems himself.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 5, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Is that you, Harry?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 5, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

2009 season

CP 494yds 4.0per
Ganther 199 3.2per
Rock 228 3.6per
Mason 127 4.0per

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 5, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Red,

You're dreaming.

I don't hate CP, but that dude's days of "lighting anybody up" are looooooong gone.

and through no fault of his own.

Posted by: Chia_Pet


Wrong, chia dude. I know you know this, but when Portis came to Washington, he was a speed back. He bulked up once Joe Gibbs told him that he needed him to carry the offense. By the way: Rock Cartwright was on the team also, I guess he didn't show Gibbs anything, Ladell Betts neither for that matter.

Well we all know that you just don't do that with star RBs anymore, don't we Chia. You add years to a RBs production when they're splitting carries with another RB, someone who's running style differs from theirs, but at the same time is very effective.

Portis never seen under under 325 carries during his time in Washington (aside from the years that he was hurt). His max in Denver: 290

Gibbs tired to turn him into something that he wasn't: A power back.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 5, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Excellent point, Diesel.

I missed that quote, but I'm starting to like this Philip Daniels character.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Source.

Tell me, in all honesty, Zorn could have done much better with that roster Cerratto gave him.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:13 PM |

He could have done better if he could have led the team, managed the games, and called better plays. I think with that roster he should have beat Dallas, New Orleans, San Diego, Detroit, Carolina, Kansas City. That's 10-6. Shanahan would have beat those teams with that roster.

Posted by: League-Source | January 5, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Just when you thought Portis couldn't be any dumber, he does something like this and totally redeems himself.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 5, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Is that you, Harry?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 5, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I cheer when a player or team gives me reason to. When's the last time Portis gave us 100 yards?

Posted by: dfbovey | January 5, 2010 5:16 PM

When the offensive line wasn't crumbled and teams didn't have 8 in the box because they knew Jason Campbell sucks....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 5, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Red,

You seem to be agreeing with me?

Portis is tanked, man.

Love him or hate him, he's done as a featured back in the NFL.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 5, 2010 5:24 PM

What's a matter Portis, some lil philly break your heart. Nah it was a bronco, I could have been the all-time leading rusher by now if I had not be traded.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 5, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

It's safe to say that if Shanahan got rid of Portis once, he'll do it again.

Also, he likes no name backs that he can rotate and use and abuse. No star system after Clinton (I kant be spekin' corectly and sit) Portis was shipped off.

Posted by: knight1977 | January 5, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I watch every game, I read the Post's coverage every day. The Post can help me, but I can form my own opinion of Portis by watching the games. He goes all out. He's been a workhorse here for 6 years. And he can pick up the goddamned blitz, unlike some of the other backs.

For some reason, JReid defends Jason Campbell for playing behind a crappy line, but Portis does not get any of that slack for running behind the same line. The guy is the Skins 2nd all time leading rusher, and nobody would confuse these recent O-lines with the Hogs that Riggins ran behind. He was a league leading rusher through 6 weeks LAST YEAR. And yet somehow HE'S the biggest remaining problem on the team. Right.

Posted by: gclyde | January 5, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

He could have done better if he could have led the team, managed the games, and called better plays. I think with that roster he should have beat Dallas, New Orleans, San Diego, Detroit, Carolina, Kansas City. That's 10-6. Shanahan would have beat those teams with that roster.

Posted by: League-Source

yup

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 5, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Where you even watching the games when Ganther, Mason, and Rock were the running backs? These 3 were gaining like 60 yds combined some games.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 5, 2010 5:18 PM

Which is just what Portis was putting up -- 494 yards in 8 games. Portis can't do better than Ganther, Mason, Rock. Pitiful.

Posted by: League-Source | January 5, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Source,

10-6?

Allow me to introduce you to my friend, Rosie Scenario.

Maybe we win two or three of those games with Shanny as HC, but all six of them?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

It's safe to say that if Shanahan got rid of Portis once, he'll do it again.

Also, he likes no name backs that he can rotate and use and abuse. No star system after Clinton (I kant be spekin' corectly and sit) Portis was shipped off.

Posted by: knight1977 | January 5, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Not true. He brought in Travis Henry (perennial 1000yd rusher from the Bills) and made him the starter till Henry screwed up trying to be Scarface.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 5, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

think I the great RBs. Now think about their egos. MANY of the greats that come to mind have HUGE egos. Riggins included.

Get over it. If you want role models don't look to NFL RBs. Unless your an idiot then go ahead.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 5, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Portis never seen under under 325 carries during his time in Washington (aside from the years that he was hurt). His max in Denver: 290

Gibbs tired to turn him into something that he wasn't: A power back.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 5, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Red: Exactly. And now he's worn out.

I appreciate what Portis has done for the Redskins in his time here. But the time has come to cut bait on an increasingly unproductive player. It's not like RBs are hard to find.

Many personnel offices (the Eagles are one I could name) believe that it's better for a team to cut a guy too soon than to hang on to him too long.

Cutting a guy too soon usually means you have a replacement plan in place. Hanging on too long usually means that you don't.

One of the Redskins' biggest problems in the Snyder era is relying on guys far beyond their expiration date. I think relying upon a guy with bone spurs in his ankles who has averaged 320+ carries per season for most of the past several seasons, when his performance has tailed off considerably, would qualify.

Most backs aren't ageless wonders like Curtis Martin, Walter Payton or Emmitt Smith. Usually they have 3-6 good years and it's over...especially in this era. Even though sports medicine has improved considerably, the pounding has become more extreme.

I haven't seen anything yet indicating that Portis will be one of history's exceptions.

Posted by: jcabana | January 5, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

"Coaches coach. Players play."

by London Fletcher

------------

So basically...

Not even the players would be so presumptuous as to place the blame for all six of those losses you mention on ONE MAN.

Just no freaking way.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Portis like Keyshawn Johnson may be a guy that shuts up when a stronger personality is the coach.

Johnson had run-ins galore with Jon Gruden but he didn't seem to have any problem doing what he was told in Dallas under Parcells.

No doubt if Portis is kept by Shanahan that Mike will be holding his ***** in his hands and can/would cut him if he acts up.

The pipeline to Snyder though and the act Portis put on that he is the 'shadow' GM of the team, that crap is over.

Posted by: leopard09 | January 5, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

champ bailey wanted out of DC, remember?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 5, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs tired to turn him into something that he wasn't: A power back.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 5, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Spot on Red! But how do you morph into a speed back again?

I agree the bulk that Gibbs wanted came at the expense of his true gift....quickness.

Obviously, he's older and more beat up. Injuries not withstanding, his running style this year was soft.

Posted by: ksquare | January 5, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I watch every game, I read the Post's coverage every day. The Post can help me, but I can form my own opinion of Portis by watching the games. He goes all out. He's been a workhorse here for 6 years. And he can pick up the goddamned blitz, unlike some of the other backs.

For some reason, JReid defends Jason Campbell for playing behind a crappy line, but Portis does not get any of that slack for running behind the same line. The guy is the Skins 2nd all time leading rusher, and nobody would confuse these recent O-lines with the Hogs that Riggins ran behind. He was a league leading rusher through 6 weeks LAST YEAR. And yet somehow HE'S the biggest remaining problem on the team. Right.

Posted by: gclyde | January 5, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Is it Jim Zorn's fault that Suisham missed those field goals?

I don't think so.

Should Jim Zorn have emptied his revolver and gone for TDs instead?

Yes, and it is a shame.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: knight1977 | January 5, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Not true. He brought in Travis Henry (perennial 1000yd rusher from the Bills) and made him the starter till Henry screwed up trying to be Scarface.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 5, 2010 5:34 PM

Henry didn't play for the Broncos until 2007.

What about the 5 yrs before that?

Posted by: knight1977 | January 5, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

For all the Portis haters, has he lied, or is he telling the truth? The fact that he ran for more than 1k last year behind our raggedy line says all I need to hear about him. We all know our line sucked, but if he says it then he's a bad guy? Portis may have horrible english skills, and yes, he has lost a step. But when he is on the field he gives 110 percent, is still a good back, and is probably the best blocking back in the game. Under Shanahan, lets see what he's got, and if he sucks, then drop him after 2010.

Posted by: dolemite1 | January 5, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Portis may have horrible english skills, and yes, he has lost a step.

Posted by: dolemite1 | January 5, 2010 5:46 PM

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No issues with English.

Clinton Poison, however, has lost more than one step, my friend.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 5, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Henry didn't play for the Broncos until 2007.

What about the 5 yrs before that?

Posted by: knight1977 | January 5, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

He only did the true rotation thing for like two seasons, the last season was because of injuries. I wouldn't call the RB's he had before that exactly no names..they were pretty good playing for big name colleges - all except Mike Anderson, which to this day I never understood how you switch a 1500yd back to fullback.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 5, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

@ pabrian2003:
I totally agree with you. We blame JC's lack of production on the wack O-line, but Portis sucks when his production behind the same line is bad. I don't need any football player to be a role model. And all players are not leaders, nor do they want to be. Most good teams have their QB as a leader. Portis should not throw players under the bus though, and a good coach will quickly take control of this team.

Posted by: dolemite1 | January 5, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

@ pabrian2003:
I totally agree with you. We blame JC's lack of production on the wack O-line, but Portis sucks when his production behind the same line is bad. I don't need any football player to be a role model. And all players are not leaders, nor do they want to be. Most good teams have their QB as a leader. Portis should not throw players under the bus though, and a good coach will quickly take control of this team.

Posted by: dolemite1 | January 5, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

if he do come...WTF was that. cut his behind

Posted by: Mark99 | January 5, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

anyone else having trouble accessing the next thread?!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 5, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Teacher, teacher, I get it...

CP is done... just look at the running averages of the guys that replaced CP26.... just replace CP26 and see our running game open up...

O-Line to CP, "don't worry, you have the first two guys, we get the guys at the next level...

How do you want it, direct snap?"

"No!" "...do you want an audible to a pass play?" "Yeah, please... I want someone else to take a beating... let them see how easy it is..."

Commentators: Campbell is taking a beating... wow, feel for him. He has absolutely no chance...

Commentators: CP26 is a prima-donna... he goes from not being able to walk or move during the week to being able to play... if he can't practice he should not be playing.

Jason Reid: See what I am saying about Clinton... he is a little nicked and he decides to shut it down for the season. See, I told you guys he is a cancer... he left and we won all those games. What more example do you need to see that he is indeed a prima-donna?

FANS: Get that bum out of here...


You got to love dem fans...

Posted by: samiismoni14 | January 5, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

My god this is a stupid sounding man... the guys on our super bowl teams were all so well spoken and intelligent. This guy is a grammatical disaster and a diva - worthy of going to "the U" - what sort of professor would pass this guy? He talks like he should be standing at a burn barrel trying to keep warm.

Posted by: egrib | January 5, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

I can't BELIEVE that we traded Baily and a second round pick for this IDIOT!

Posted by: Redskinrex | January 5, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Wow...CP got 1487 yards in 2008 and you all call him washed up and say he sucks.
You all are a joke.
The man plays hard and Jason Reid's column just tries to instigate the bad talk about Portis.
Yea, like Ganther, Mason and Betts really made a difference...NOT!!!

Posted by: Redskins2881 | January 5, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Wow...CP got 1487 yards in 2008 and you all call him washed up and say he sucks.
You all are a joke.
The man plays hard and Jason Reid's column just tries to instigate the bad talk about Portis.
Yea, like Ganther, Mason and Betts really made a difference...NOT!!!

Posted by: Redskins2881 | January 5, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

"If you're not, no matter how much you're getting paid, he's going to get you up out of there."

Bye-bye Clinton.

"You all are a joke."

The joke will be on you when he gets a foot up his butt. Shanahan traded him away once, now he gets to do it again!

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 5, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

"If you're not, no matter how much you're getting paid, he's going to get you up out of there."

Bye-bye Clinton.

"You all are a joke."

The joke will be on you when he gets a foot up his butt. Shanahan traded him away once, now he gets to do it again!

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 5, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

"If you're not, no matter how much you're getting paid, he's going to get you up out of there."

Bye-bye Clinton.

"You all are a joke."

The joke will be on you when he gets a foot up his butt. Shanahan traded him away once, now he gets to do it again!

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 5, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

No reporter is slanting the way I feel about this self centered idiot! He is NOT and never will be a team player! Thats just the way it is! His pockets are strait so move on! PLEASE! No one likes someone who is the favorite or is treated better because he is up Snyders A-hole!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | January 5, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Portis has always been a ME-FIRST guy. Honestly, if you know anything about Football you see that Portis has been washed up for a few years. The guys trips over the turf or his own feet as much as someone tackling him - he never breaks a tackle.. look at even Quinton Gaither and compare. He barely practices and hasn't had a burst since his first game against Tampa. If Shananhan knows anything he knows Running Backs.. bye bye Clinton.

To tell you the truth after reading Campbell's response I have more respect for Campbell now than I ever had - I don't think he is a franchise QB but he is a class guy and I bet the players have more respect for him than Portis by far.

Posted by: rskinsfan | January 5, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Ask him to restructure his contract and play fullback. People are always talking about what a great blocker he is. Shanny traded your a$$ once and he'll do it again. Man the Al Davis hotline!

Posted by: minorthread | January 5, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Ask him to restructure his contract and play fullback. People are always talking about what a great blocker he is. Shanny traded your a$$ once and he'll do it again. Man the Al Davis hotline!

Posted by: minorthread | January 5, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool then open it and remove all doubt.

Portis had a couple good season's.. can't even break arm tackles these days. he's done. Maybe Dan can hire him to be the team spokesman and handle their PR. :)

Posted by: rskinsfan | January 5, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a :)fool then open it and remove all doubt.

Portis had a couple good season's.. can't even break arm tackles these days. he's done. Maybe Dan can hire him to be the team spokesman and handle their PR.

Posted by: rskinsfan | January 5, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a :)fool then open it and remove all doubt.

Portis had a couple good season's.. can't even break arm tackles these days. he's done. Maybe Dan can hire him to be the team spokesman and handle their PR.

Posted by: rskinsfan | January 5, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

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