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Posted at 6:00 AM ET, 11/23/2010

Redskins catching Vikings at the right time?

By Jason Reid

It seems the Redskins will face the Minnesota Vikings at just the right time.

Of course, playing the Vikings has been a favorable experience for most of their opponents this season, and former coach Brad Childress was fired Monday and replaced on an interim basis by defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier. The Redskins play host to the Vikings on Sunday at FedEx Field.

Minnesota dropped to 3-7 after a 31-3 blowout loss on their home field to the rival Green Bay Packers. Entering the season, the Vikings and Dallas Cowboys were considered among the leading candidates to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. On Nov. 8, the Cowboys fired former coach Wade Phillips and installed offensive coordinator Jason Garrett as the interim coach.

Although Minnesota is having a nightmarish season, the Redskins will not take them lightly, Shanahan said.

"I'm sure they'll be ready to go just like most teams are" after in-season coaching changes, Shanahan said. "It's preparation, though. It's us preparing for a game and it's Minnesota preparing for a game.

"There's a lot of different sidebars that go into preparation, different mind-sets. We've got to let them do what they do and we've got to be ready for a football team that's very talented."

The Vikings were a step away from reaching the Super Bowl last season, losing to the New Orleans Saints in the NFC championship game, 31-28, in overtime. Minnesota still has many talented players on its roster, including future Hall of Famer Brett Favre.

Although the perennial Pro Bowl quarterback has not played well this season, Favre is still capable of big performances. In Week 9, Favre passed for a season-high 446 yards with two touchdowns and two interceptions in leading the Vikings to a 27-24 victory over the Arizona Cardinals.

Interim coaches usually are assistants who served under deposed former head coaches, and Frazier formerly ran the Vikings' defense.

Shanahan does not expect the Vikings to make radical changes under Frazier because "whether [the interim is] an offensive guy or a defensive guy, he's running the system and he believes in that system.

"Sometimes they may tweak the other side of the ball a little bit, or tell the offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinator, 'You've got a free hand.' Or they might tell 'em to run the ball a little bit more or throw a little bit more. But normally, if you have the same staff, it usually doesn't go too far outside the box."

By Jason Reid  | November 23, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
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What? This is the absolute wrong time to play the Vikes...they'll be fired up to get Frazier his FIRST coaching victory, and they certainly have the talent to pull it off. Our best chance to win was with Major Dad screwing up on the sidelines and Favre throwing pick 6s.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 6:08 AM | Report abuse

and Favre throwing pick 6s.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 6:08 AM

Not sure how changing coaches will change Favre. He's thrown more INTs (17) than any other QB in the league and he has the lowest rating (69.8).

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 6:28 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Brownwood. This is the absolute wrong time to play the Vikings. The players hated Chilly. They love Frazier. There is no pressure on them anymore.

Posted by: srobert1117 | November 23, 2010 6:31 AM | Report abuse

Favre is who he is he throws picks no matter who his coach is. I don't care if it's right or wrong time we need to beat them.

This is going to be a tough game against a talented team, so lets hope they can pull it out.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 23, 2010 6:36 AM | Report abuse

Not sure how changing coaches will change Favre. He's thrown more INTs (17) than any other QB in the league and he has the lowest rating (69.8).

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 6:28 AM


Duly noted...but Childress was Favre's caddy. If Frazier wants to show he's worthy of the HC gig without the "interim" tag, he'll need to show that it's HIS team and not Favre's. Seems to me there's a better chance of Frazier pulling Favre than there ever was of Chilly doing so.

I mean, if the Cowpies can start looking like a solid football team with a coaching change and a backup QB, I don't see why the Vikes can't replicate that...especially since they're waaay more talented than Dallas.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 6:39 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the injury situation, sure these things occasionally happen, but what about other factors like Tennessee's torn up field or the Redskin's physical training?

Posted by: Josh7 | November 23, 2010 6:47 AM | Report abuse

This is the absolute wrong time to play the Vikings. The players hated Chilly. They love Frazier. There is no pressure on them anymore.


The truth in all of this comes from the fight Percy Harvin had with Childress after the coach questioned the player's toughness.

After the fight, Harvin stated many players came to him and said that they were glad that he stood up to Childress.

His act, they said, had worn thin.

And you have to side with the players, in my mind, as Childress accepted Favre's failings even where they were a detriment to the team.

NFL players are not going to sit by quietly while one guy is given preferential treatment even after the kind of boneheaded play that gets them fined or benched.

The Vikings will play much better this weekend as a defensive coach like Frazier will run Petersen at the redskins over and over again.

This game will be a tough one with the national sports media in our jock like an itch we can't scratch.

But the redskins can win it as McNabb's improving play will be the difference:


Redskins 28

Vikings 21

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 23, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

What we've learned, 11/22/10

By: John Keim

1. A defense can allow 130 yards rushing to one player and still feel like it contained him » Tennessee’s Chris Johnson gained that many yards, but 78 came on four runs. And Johnson didn’t score on any of those carries, nor did they lead to points. He could have had some bigger runs, but tackles by DeAngelo Hall on one run and H.B. Blades on another prevented that from happening. The Redskins could stick with their base 3-4 defense much more than normal because the Titans weren’t major threats in the air. Had they been forced to play more nickel, then Johnson might have broken more runs — ones that could have hurt.

2. The NFC does not have a powerhouse team, but they have a lot of teams close to that level » And it likely means a 10-6 record is the minimum for making the postseason — unless you reside in the NFC West. Seven teams already have six wins and five have seven. This does not include the NFC West, of course, where 5-5 Seattle has a one-game lead for first place. So this means the NFC East might just get one playoff spot as Green Bay, New Orleans and Tampa Bay all have a lead over the New York Giants for the two wild card spots. Incidentally, the Redskins are 3-1 vs. NFC teams that currently have seven wins. But can they go 5-1 down the stretch? Very doubtful.

3. When the offense is clicking, it’s fun to watch » Sunday, they found a way to get many players involved. That’s easy to do when you run 86 plays, a result of finally converting on third downs. That means more opportunities to open the playbook. So we saw the screen to Fred Davis, and the in-route to Brandon Banks, and the shovel pass to Santana Moss. Ten players caught passes and four players had receptions of 20 yards or more. The deception game worked. But it was also surprising how ineffective Tennessee’s defense was — the Titans could never overpower an interior that has struggled vs. power players.

4. It’s hard to understand why Tennessee wasn’t better able to take advantage of the Redskins’ offensive line injuries » The Titans’ front lacked powerful players, the sort who have given Washington fits all season. There were times when they’d bump some players back, but it was not with any regularity. And some of their rushes left guys bunched up; and on more than a couple occasions one lineman was able to slow two rushers.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/redskins/2010/11/what-weve-learned-112210#ixzz166mo6Hwf

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Hope you're right, Moe. I just see the Vikes as a sleeping giant that's only a competent HC and an effective QB away from being really good. This is one week I'm not hoping we knock out the starting QB because I could see TJack having a big day at our expense...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

As others have said, it the complete opposite, this is the worst time to face them.

It would have ideal if they held on to Childress for one more week.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | November 23, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

no doubt we got screwed by the timing of the childress firing. would have been great if they hadn't lost so badly last week... oh well...

btw, did landry finish the game vs the eagles? i had no idea he was so hurt.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 23, 2010 7:56 AM | Report abuse

btw, did landry finish the game vs the eagles? i had no idea he was so hurt.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 23, 2010 7:56 AM


I didn't bother watching the 2nd half of that game, so I'm not sure...I seem to remember hearing he got hurt in practice. Could be wrong on that though.

I just hope he can get back in time for the Giants game...we'll definitely need him for that one.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Hope you're right

I think we can get a W this weekend, and really, it might be necessary.

Consider the final 6 games:

Vikings
@ Giants
Buccaneers
@ Cowboys
@ Jaguars
VS Giants


The bucs and jags are actually fairly decent young teams, so don't think of them as easy wins.

The jints have had our number for some time, so write off the idea of splitting or sweeping them for now.

The cowboys have improved their play, so maybe they actually show up when we come to their town.

The final six games are going to be tough games against young improving teams fighting for playoff spots and NFC East rivals who've had our number.

We just gotta beat the vikes to set up the finla stretch of the year.


Posted by: MistaMoe | November 23, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

And you have to side with the players, in my mind, as Childress accepted Favre's failings even where they were a detriment to the team.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 23, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Chilly was spineless, he let Favre run the show! Do you know of ANY other coach that would put up with telling a guy he's benched and he says no and still goes out and plays? Can you imagine if Simms told Parcells 'no fatty, I'm going back in!'. I think they'd STILL be trying to remove Bill's boot from Phil's ass!

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

the nationally televised beat down together with the emotional patchwork victory favors the redskins over the coaching change and QB without a rudder vikings. the redskins will win this game and travel to giants statium 6-5.

load the box on defense and use the same offensive game plan. practice emphasizing red zone and two minute drill this week on offense

turnovers-turnovers-turnovers

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Given the Redskins habit of playing down and getting beat by supposedly inferior opponents, Vikings probably believe they're catching us at just the right time.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 23, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Not gonna happen this year. Next year, though...you can count on the Skins trading for Larry Fitzgerald. You heard it here first.

Posted by: brownwood26

Didn't know snyderatto was still in the building.
Past lessons still not learned.
Yeah fitz is a stud for zona, but most likely be a big dollar bust if skins sign him.

Posted by: bhoang888 | November 23, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse


Given the Redskins habit of playing down and getting beat by supposedly inferior opponents

still don't believe in this theory of playing down to another teams level.

thinking you'll beat a team easily before you even play the game....

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Moe, I'm not sure where you're going with that...the only team you didn't make a case for us losing to was the Vikes. So that's the only "winnable" game left on our schedule?

The old adage in the NFL is true: it's not who you play, it's when you play them. If we played the Eagles this week we probably don't lose by 38. If we played the Titans 3 weeks ago when VY was on his meds we probably lose. I think we're catching the Ginas at the right time because they tend to implode down the stretch. By the time we see the Cowpies, they may be full of themselves because of their newfound success in a season will little of it. The Jags might see a rash of injuries between now and our matchup with them.

We just don't know.

That's why I'm anxious to see it all play out. We could continue our .500 trend, bottom out with all the injuries, or we could go on another epic December run. Just gotta hope for the best and let it play out...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

still don't believe in this theory of playing down to another teams level.

thinking you'll beat a team easily before you even play the game....

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, maybe it's not US playing down to an inferior team's level, maybe it's the inferior teams that are playing up to OUR level. It just sucks that right now weak teams are licking their chops when they see us on their schedule. Since when did we become the team that everyone thinks they can knock off?

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

brown, no thanks on fitz, great player and all, but at what cost?? I'd rather they focused first on the OLine, both in the draft and in free agency, and brought in VJack for free....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse


Since when did we become the team that everyone thinks they can knock off?

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 8:34 AM |

you did watch the mnf two weeks ago, didn't you ?

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse


brown, no thanks on fitz, great player and all, but at what cost?? I'd rather they focused first on the OLine, both in the draft and in free agency, and brought in VJack for free....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 8:36 AM |

agree minus vjack, to much luggage

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

So that's the only "winnable" game left on our schedule?


That's the general theme, sir.

We will really, really regret the losses to the lions, rams, and texans, trust me.

And the only viotory should we come out of the final 6 games 1-5 or 3-3?

DRAFT POSITION!!!!!!

A top 10 pick is in our future.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 23, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Santonio Holmes and Vincent Jackson seem to be the best receivers out there in FA for next year. I don't know, I think I'm on the fence between which one we need the most. The Jets probably won't let Holmes go anyway, so I think we make a play for Jackson.

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Do you know of ANY other coach that would put up with telling a guy he's benched and he says no and still goes out and plays?

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 8:21 AM


Too many...but to be fair, it's got more to do with Favre than it does Childress. All those WCO guys think Favre is football Jesus. Mariucci all but sucks his dick on NFL Network and it's a mortal lock he'd allow the same crap if he were still in coaching. I'd venture to say the following coaches would let Favre do the same sh*t he's done in Minny the last two years:

-Wade Phillips
-Marvin Lewis
-Mike McCarthy (if he didn't have Ted Thompson)
-Norv Turner

And those are just the guys with a track record for that kind of thing. I'm sure there are a couple others that would actually surprise us.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Santonio Holmes and Vincent Jackson seem to be the best receivers out there in FA for next year. I don't know, I think I'm on the fence between which one we need the most. The Jets probably won't let Holmes go anyway, so I think we make a play for Jackson.

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 8:45 AM


ZERO chance Santonio hits the market...that dude has 3 game-winning TDs in as many weeks. Not sure if there's such thing as a "clutch WR" but if there is he's it...

VJ is a mortal lock for the Redskins if he hits the market. Just makes way too much sense.

Greg, wasn't saying I want Fitz per se...just a funny feeling that the Skins will be heavy in the mix if he does wanna get outta AZ...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

brown, 10-4, I just can't see the logic in making a trade for him, great player no doubt, but this team can't afford to be trading picks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

VJ is a mortal lock for the Redskins if he hits the market. Just makes way too much sense.


Total agreement there.

Re-signing Moss and adding VJAX creates:

Jackson-Moss-Armstrong-Cooley

That's a nice quartet of targets.

And you still have speedsters in Bnaks and Austin (and maybe MK comes back healthy and is a player--a dream, I know).

This means the draft can just be about adding offensive AND defensive lineman as we really need upgrades on both sides of the line.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 23, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

How did it work out for the Cowboys??

Posted by: Justlistening | November 23, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse


but this team can't afford to be trading picks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 9:00 AM |

hallelujah

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

VJ is a mortal lock for the Redskins if he hits the market. Just makes way too much sense.


Total agreement there.

Re-signing Moss and adding VJAX creates:

Jackson-Moss-Armstrong-Cooley

That's a nice quartet of targets.

And you still have speedsters in Bnaks and Austin (and maybe MK comes back healthy and is a player--a dream, I know).

This means the draft can just be about adding offensive AND defensive lineman as we really need upgrades on both sides of the line.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 23, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

VJ is a mortal lock for the Redskins if he hits the market. Just makes way too much sense.


Total agreement there.

Re-signing Moss and adding VJAX creates:

Jackson-Moss-Armstrong-Cooley

That's a nice quartet of targets.

And you still have speedsters in Bnaks and Austin (and maybe MK comes back healthy and is a player--a dream, I know).

This means the draft can just be about adding offensive AND defensive lineman as we really need upgrades on both sides of the line.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 23, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Sorry about the triple posting.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 23, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Jackson-Moss-Armstrong-Cooley-Davis

fixed it for ya moe...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse


but this team can't afford to be trading picks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 9:00 AM |
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This means the draft can just be about adding offensive AND defensive lineman as we really need upgrades on both sides of the line.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 23, 2010 9:04 AM |
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greg and moe for FO positions

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

One thing Frazier will learn very fast, is that it is "Coach Favre". If you doubt this, just try benching Favre for a few series!

Posted by: wp121606 | November 23, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Jackson-Moss-Armstrong-Cooley-Davis

fixed it for ya moe...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Banks

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

brown, 10-4, I just can't see the logic in making a trade for him, great player no doubt, but this team can't afford to be trading picks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 9:00 AM


Here's hoping the FO feels the same way.

Getting VJ paired with Santana for a year until we're in a position to draft a WR isn't the worst thing in the world. If the coaches start using Banks a little more the WR spot could conceivably go from a weakness to a strength.

Build the line this offseason...everything else will fall into place.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

"What? This is the absolute wrong time to play the Vikes..."


My friend said the same thing, but I disagree. If the Vikes are as disfunctional I think they are then it's going to be another close game. I'm more concerend about the injuries the Skins have then what issues the Vikes have right now.

Bottom line is the Skins are probably going to have to go 5-1 in thier last 6 to make the playoffs...it's not happening.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 23, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

One thing Frazier will learn very fast, is that it is "Coach Favre". If you doubt this, just try benching Favre for a few series!

Posted by: wp121606 | November 23, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Agreed. Favre does anything he wants, and he is also a big part of the reason they stink.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse


Build the line this offseason...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 9:19 AM |

I can't keep up. it's like a dream come true

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

brown, no thanks on fitz, great player and all, but at what cost?? I'd rather they focused first on the OLine, both in the draft and in free agency, and brought in VJack for free....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 8:36 AM

Love the idea of accentuating the Oline via FA and the draft. There should be some young decent Olinemen hitting FA this coming off season. While I think Vjak is a good player, guys like James Jones and Jacoby Jones plus drafting a guy might make more sense.

Posted by: TWISI | November 23, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Since when did we become the team that everyone thinks they can knock off?
1991

Posted by: junkiwonteverread | November 23, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

-Wade Phillips
-Marvin Lewis
-Mike McCarthy (if he didn't have Ted Thompson)
-Norv Turner

And those are just the guys with a track record for that kind of thing. I'm sure there are a couple others that would actually surprise us.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I do agree with the list except Marvin Lewis. I watched Hard Knocks when the Bengals were on there and he does a pretty good job of keeping his players under control, especially Ochocinco, he wouldn't let that sh*t happen.

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Build the line this offseason...everything else will fall into place.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 9:19 AM
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true dat!

vs the flaming thumbtacks* we all saw how much better mcnabb was given a bit of time. EVERYTHING works better if the line is better.

* http://go.wherewewatch.com/page/-/images/logos/nfl/nfl-titans-logo.gif

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 23, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

This means the draft can just be about adding offensive AND defensive lineman as we really need upgrades on both sides of the line.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 23, 2010 9:04 AM


Amen...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse


Love the idea of accentuating the Oline via FA and the draft. There should be some young decent Olinemen hitting FA this coming off season. While I think Vjak is a good player, guys like James Jones and Jacoby Jones plus drafting a guy might make more sense.

Posted by: TWISI | November 23, 2010 9:24 AM |

looks like we have overwhelming agreement on the need to aquire linemen, but I'll agree with twisi and hope we shy away from signing the big names like vjack or fitz.

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I've noticed the whole Shanahan "plug in a RB and go" system is working.

That is a very good sign for the Skins.I'm excited to see James Davis in action. Hopefully Williams/Davis can provide an awesome 1/2.

Against Tennessee the running game was clicking, and for the rest of the day McNabb had all day to throw.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Seriously? This is the absolute worst time to play the Vikings.
(1) The Vikings players love Frazier and will step up big time for him.
(2) The Redskins are seriously wounded at multiple positions
(3) The Vikings are due for a big win
(4) How MANY times do we lose to floundering/bad teams??? Seems like ALWAYS
(5) See Cowboys/Wade Phillips Firing. Ditto

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 23, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

I do agree with the list except Marvin Lewis. I watched Hard Knocks when the Bengals were on there and he does a pretty good job of keeping his players under control, especially Ochocinco, he wouldn't let that sh*t happen.

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 9:30 AM


Don't get me wrong...I love Marvin Lewis (thought he should've been the coach here in '02 instead of Spurrier) but he's let Ochocinco get away with quite a bit in Cincy. That halftime tirade in the playoff game against the Steelers a few years back, letting the FO overrule him on the TO signing...hell, he's got his own smaller scale Favre situation now since Palmer is playing like crap and not pulling him. I think he'd be better off in a better situation, but he's gotta shoulder some of the blame there.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

hess, WR is a decided weakness on this team...who would you want them to bring in....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Seriously? This is the absolute worst time to play the Vikings.
(1) The Vikings players love Frazier and will step up big time for him.
(2) The Redskins are seriously wounded at multiple positions
(3) The Vikings are due for a big win
(4) How MANY times do we lose to floundering/bad teams??? Seems like ALWAYS
(5) See Cowboys/Wade Phillips Firing. Ditto

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 23, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Except Minnesota is out of it, and the Redskins have something to play for.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

What if next year Malcolm Kelly comes back and becomes a beast.

Not only would be be in the Twilight Zone, but it would be awesome.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I think the thing Shanahan left out when talking about an interim coach is the "motivation factor". Chilly was down and out and I don't think the players were playing for him any more. In steps Frazier - whom the defensive players respect big time - and these players are going to step up. I expect Frazier to give the Redskins plenty of runs to defend. He is going to see the running game as his greatest strength and defending the run as the Redskins greatest weakness. I also suspect he will have a quick hook with Favre as it will send a message to the players that they will be held accountable for their performance on the field. I like Frazier, and I think dismissing him as the lame duck coach is just unbelievably stupid.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 23, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

What if next year Malcolm Kelly comes back and becomes a beast.

Not only would be be in the Twilight Zone, but it would be awesome.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:43 AM

And even brownwood would be talking about what a great personnel guy Vinny Cerrato was.

Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Catching the Vikes at the right time? More likely we're catching them at the wrong time -- coming off a painful loss, with the head coach just fired, and our own roster is badly banged up. McNabb will have to keep this club focused.

Thing I liked about his performance against the Titans: that 12.53 yards per completion. That's one of the stats that actually reflects real performance and correlates pretty strongly with win percentage. More than does completion percentage.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 23, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Just remember that Farve has been almost two different players this year. other than the last game, he has been decent at home, but away from home this year he has been really awful. Not sure of the reason for the Jeckell-Hyde routine, but I am glad this one is at FedEx.

Posted by: manlius1 | November 23, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I predict Leslie Frazier's head coaching career will emulate the career of the immortal Terry Robiskie. Book it.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | November 23, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Except Minnesota is out of it, and the Redskins have something to play for.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:38 AM

I think, like Keim above, that the Redskins are out of it. Minny has plenty to play for -- the new coach.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse


does youth play a part in the redskins o-line play sunday in tennesee ?

ahicks - 32
crabach - 33
both out due to injury

enter:
wmontgomery - 27
sheyer - 26
klich -25
twilliams - 22
jbrown - 29

if jbrown can overcome his injured hip completely and wmontgomery pans out the rest of the year at C, we can draft o-line with our first two draft picks. that allows us to keep sheyer as a back-up and opens up competition at RG and LG. if this makeshift o-line shows up the rest of the year we suddenly have something brewing that I didn't see coming.


Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I predict Leslie Frazier's head coaching career will emulate the career of the immortal Terry Robiskie. Book it.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | November 23, 2010 9:54 AM

Hardly. Frazier has already been interviewed for head coaching jobs and, depending on how many guys lose their jobs this year, is likely to be someone's head coach next year. Polian in Indianapolis cited him as the leading candidate among coordinators.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Except Minnesota is out of it, and the Redskins have something to play for.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:38 AM

I think, like Keim above, that the Redskins are out of it. Minny has plenty to play for -- the new coach.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

They aren't eliminated yet.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Samson151,
the best stat imho (other than wins...) is yards per attempt. anything above 7 is pretty good. last week, mcnabb had 376 yds in 50 attempts = 7.5

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 23, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Were going to HAVE to look to FA and the draft to fill out this oline. We need 3 new starters all in the interior. No way you get more then one immediate starter from the draft, and even thats a long shot, especially with Shannys stubborn reliance on vets that know the system but suck at football.

Gonna need to trim even more fat this offseason and feed all the money into both lines.

Posted by: Stu27 | November 23, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

While I think Vjak is a good player, guys like James Jones and Jacoby Jones plus drafting a guy might make more sense.

Posted by: TWISI | November 23, 2010 9:24 AM


I'll never understand the fascination with Jacoby Jones up here...that dude is a depth player, not necessarily a guy you can plug in your starting lineup and feel good about. He's ARE about 6 years ago...

I like James Jones as a Plan B if we can't get VJ or if he prices himself out of a job here. But we've got to get a guy who's a proven starter in this league if we're not drafting a guy.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

who are the best o-linemen under 30 who'll be available in free agency?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 23, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Seriously? This is the absolute worst time to play the Vikings.
(1) The Vikings players love Frazier and will step up big time for him.
(2) The Redskins are seriously wounded at multiple positions
(3) The Vikings are due for a big win
(4) How MANY times do we lose to floundering/bad teams??? Seems like ALWAYS
(5) See Cowboys/Wade Phillips Firing. Ditto

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 23, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Except Minnesota is out of it, and the Redskins have something to play for.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse


Cowpokes were out of it too. Expect Vikes to come out breathing fire. My fear is their D-line will crush ours and if they can get AP running effectively, we're in for a long day. Best shot is to get an early lead and force them into letting Farve throw lots of picks.

Posted by: cosmofla | November 23, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Note to iH8dallas: Couldn't agree more, the Viking players were lobbying for Leslie Frazier to replace Brad Childress last season this is the worst possible scenario for the Skins, numerous injuries to the O-line, defensive and special teams stalwart(Alexander) likely out and facing another stud running back with home run potential and of course our stubborn head coach who refuses to play certain people(Fred Davis),if they win this one on Sunday they are playoff bound.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 23, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

maybe Justin Blackmon will fall in the draft due to his precevied malcontentness, that dude is the future must have...

Posted by: Stu27 | November 23, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

They aren't eliminated yet.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:59 AM

If it takes 10 wins to get in the playoffs, it's not going to happen this year. Just too many holes morso now.

Posted by: TWISI | November 23, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Isn't this the last year of Santana's contract? Who says he will return to us next season? I hope so but who knows?

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 23, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse


They aren't eliminated yet.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:59 AM |

and neither is your prediction of 11-5

go ih8 go !!!!!

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Gonna need to trim even more fat this offseason and feed all the money into both lines.

Posted by: Stu27 | November 23, 2010 10:02 AM


Getting rid of Haynesworth and Portis alone will clear up a ton of space...otherwise, our salary structure actually looks pretty good for a change. Just stay the course by building thru the draft and playing it smart in FA...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Here is a list of the top 30 FA for 2011 as rated by Zeke's Yahoo buddies:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-freeagents111810

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 23, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

When the Redskins make the playoffs after going on a run, I will make all of you nay-sayers eat crow.From my butt, with a spoon.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

They aren't eliminated yet.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:59 AM

No, and Rush Limbaugh hasn't been eliminated yet as a Presidential Candidate in 2012.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Isn't this the last year of Santana's contract? Who says he will return to us next season? I hope so but who knows?

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 23, 2010 10:10 AM

Because he'll be paid like a #2 on most other teams?

Posted by: TWISI | November 23, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 23, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Except Minnesota is out of it, and the Redskins have something to play for.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Plus the trend has to stop sometime. There has to come a time that this team sheds the bad luck/bad decisions that have plagued this franchise for the past 18+ years and get rid of the mediocrity:
A weaker opponent is in front of you, now stand up and pop 'em in the f*cking mouth, and while they're down step on their throat!

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 23, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Except Minnesota is out of it, and the Redskins have something to play for.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Plus the trend has to stop sometime. There has to come a time that this team sheds the bad luck/bad decisions that have plagued this franchise for the past 18+ years and get rid of the mediocrity:
A weaker opponent is in front of you, now stand up and pop 'em in the f*cking mouth, and while they're down step on their throat!

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

They aren't eliminated yet.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:59 AM |

and neither is your prediction of 11-5

go ih8 go !!!!!

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

thanks hess.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

does youth play a part in the redskins o-line play sunday in tennesee ?

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 9:58 AM

Heard something on the way home last night that made a lot of sense...Heyer stated that the coaches had scaled WAY back on the line calls/play calls due to the injuries. Basically "block the m'fer in front of you".

Looking at the results, maybe we should continue to keep it simple?

Posted by: stevek20147 | November 23, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse


hess, WR is a decided weakness on this team...who would you want them to bring in....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 9:38 AM |

I don't have an answer for that one greg, but I'd like the redskins to shy away from big money players. I'm weary of that move nowadays. not saying vjack or fitz would pan out like AH, just like to see us step back from the big signings. after watching our offense move the ball sunday with some decent protection up front, we might be able to get by with some other talent at a lesser cost, especially anything that invovles draft picks. gotta keep everyone of those picks


Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 23, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Except Minnesota is out of it, and the Redskins have something to play for.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Plus the trend has to stop sometime. There has to come a time that this team sheds the bad luck/bad decisions that have plagued this franchise for the past 18+ years and get rid of the mediocrity:
A weaker opponent is in front of you, now stand up and pop 'em in the f*cking mouth, and while they're down step on their throat!

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

This site from WalterFootball.com lets you look at FA's by position:

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2010S.php

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 23, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Portis is gone anyway unless he restructures. If we get Hayneworth then we need to get someone of a similar caliber, and that's not possible w/o spending a ton of money.
I know every one still hates Ahay but he is fine for another year or two on this team...has to be gone by then though.

Posted by: Stu27 | November 23, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

BEEP-BEEP's GUIDE TO WORN-OUT RI INSULTS:

These insults have been so overused that they're being retired from the blog. If you're thinking of using one of them, don't -- you're only insulting yourself by your lack of imagination and originality.

1. You’re an idiot, moron, d0uche
2. You rode the short bus to school
3. I diddled your mother/sister/wife/girlfriend
4. …and her private parts were ugly, stinky, large, small, etc.
5. You work in Pizza Hut/Wendy’s/Arby’s
6. You live in your mother’s basement
7. Make fun of their screen name
8. Vulgarity that beats the filters: F you, you’re a sh1t
9. You don’t know football
10. I don’t read your posts, you’re ITA
11. You’re gay/white/black/Republican
12. How about a homosexual favor: blow me
13. You’re defending Vinny/Dan/Bush/Palin/Wilbon
14. You spend all day on the blog – you need to get a life
15. I’m coming to your house to kick your ass
16. You’re old. Or, you’re still in high school.
17. The last time I checked…
18. I own you
19. I’m living inside your head rent free
20. You don’t know how to spell

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Here is a list of the top 30 FA for 2011 as rated by Zeke's Yahoo buddies:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-freeagents111810

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 23, 2010 10:12 AM

Gotta pick players that fit their schemes, building cohesion. There should be some decent young talent as FA.

Posted by: TWISI | November 23, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I will make all of you nay-sayers eat crow.From my butt, with a spoon.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:13 AM |

You're going to put crow in your butt just for us? Isn't that special.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Sorry the WalterFootball site was for 2010...

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 23, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse


BEEP-BEEP's GUIDE TO WORN-OUT RI INSULTS:

These insults have been so overused that they're being retired from the blog. If you're thinking of using one of them, don't -- you're only insulting yourself by your lack of imagination and originality.

1. You’re an idiot, moron, d0uche
2. You rode the short bus to school
3. I diddled your mother/sister/wife/girlfriend
4. …and her private parts were ugly, stinky, large, small, etc.
5. You work in Pizza Hut/Wendy’s/Arby’s
6. You live in your mother’s basement
7. Make fun of their screen name
8. Vulgarity that beats the filters: F you, you’re a sh1t
9. You don’t know football
10. I don’t read your posts, you’re ITA
11. You’re gay/white/black/Republican
12. How about a homosexual favor: blow me
13. You’re defending Vinny/Dan/Bush/Palin/Wilbon
14. You spend all day on the blog – you need to get a life
15. I’m coming to your house to kick your ass
16. You’re old. Or, you’re still in high school.
17. The last time I checked…
18. I own you
19. I’m living inside your head rent free
20. You don’t know how to spell


Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:19 AM |

damn beep, there's nothing left to talk about

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

I don't have an answer for that one greg, but I'd like the redskins to shy away from big money players. I'm weary of that move nowadays. not saying vjack or fitz would pan out like AH, just like to see us step back from the big signings. after watching our offense move the ball sunday with some decent protection up front, we might be able to get by with some other talent at a lesser cost, especially anything that invovles draft picks. gotta keep everyone of those picks

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 10:17 AM |

I'm not necessarily adverse to big name/money signings as long as they're on a first time FA and the guy is not a documented malcontent with flags (AH). Old free agents? No thanks. I'm also against trading for big name guys when it involves picks.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 23, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

The Skins - and I am glad about this - have caught a ton of inside straights. The Titans are a middle-of-the-road team with Young at QB and CJ not ripping off a few 40+ yard scampers. The Titans' DL isn't especially large and removing Casey Reachback paid dividends because the coaches know he is a liability but keep him in the starting lineup because he knows all the formations/assignments etc.

All that said, I think the Skins are getting lucky again this week. There's not going to be any explosion of effort with this team, especially if Favre starts. I know Tavaris Jackson sucks donkey nuts but when he plays, the Vikes tend to run the ball and take what the defense gives them, passing-wise (screens, TE drags, swing passes etc.). When Favre is running the offense, it's all about him despite the ground weapons like AP and Percy etc.

I love the timing of this matchup this week.

Think about this:

This could well be Favre's last game. Here's to hoping the Skins "Aikman" his ass.

Go Skins baby!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 23, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I will make all of you nay-sayers eat crow.From my butt, with a spoon.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:13 AM |

You're going to put crow in your butt just for us? Isn't that special.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I'll even let you get the first bite.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Cool, NERD'S not on there!!!!

Also, I don't think Personal_Fowl_Body_Odor is gonna like this list, 'I own you' comes out of his mouth every post.

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Just so you know beep, you're an idiot/moron/d0uche is never worn out. The classics never die. Now the wife/girlfriend/mom thing is quite played out.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 23, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I'm not necessarily adverse to big name/money signings as long as they're on a first time FA and the guy is not a documented malcontent with flags (AH). Old free agents? No thanks. I'm also against trading for big name guys when it involves picks.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 23, 2010 10:26 AM

It seems to me that this FO knows how to construct a contract that is Redskins friendly, so with that mindset I don't have a problem going after some big name FAs. Hopefully that continues.

Would be really disappointed if draft picks are traded though.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 23, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Major Dad screwing up on the sidelines and Favre throwing pick 6s.

Posted by: brownwood26

Naw wasn't that guy in Simon and Simon - he had a mouth painted on his heli-chopter

Posted by: ElYeah | November 23, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I'd rather we keep fat al. We already paid him most of his guarenteed money. I think we're only on the hook for 6 mil a season until like 2013. Why get rid of him? It's a sunk cost at this point.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 23, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Interesting insight on our guy #5...and it actually doesn't involve any stories of puking:

Todd Herremans touts Mike Vick’s determination
Posted by Mike Florio on November 23, 2010, 9:17 AM EST

Three weeks ago, we were reminded of the periodic struggles of former Eagles and current Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb during the two-minute drill. On Monday, Eagles guard Todd Herremans made some interesting comments comparing and contrasting the late-game performances of McNabb and current Eagles quarterback Mike Vick.

“Mike seems a little more determined when he’s in the huddle,” Herremans told Mike Missanelli of 97.5 the Fanatic in Philadelphia. “I guess determined is a good word for it because I would say both of them are confident when they are in the huddle.

“Donovan would always have that relaxed, kind of lackadaisical feel to him where he tried to keep a cool head the whole time. He always thought if he stayed relaxed and didn’t act like anything was bothering him that he felt like that was the best way to carry out the game. Mike comes in the huddle and he has a look of sheer determination on his face to where he’s gonna get it done. . . .

“Mike’s attitude, whether it’s how he carries himself, his determination or whatever, it’s very contagious to the rest of the players on the field. I think people have been able to see that when he’s out there with us, we’re a totally different team. Let alone his ability but the the others players on the team, it seems they step their play up when Mike’s on the field.”

The details are interesting and far more meaningful than the notion that McNabb simply pukes on his shoes when the chips are down. Instead, McNabb apparently has decided that, when the going gets tough, he’ll simply act like the going isn’t tough at all.

It worked for Joe Montana when he pointed out John Candy in the stands during crunch time of Super Bowl XXIII. But it historically hasn’t worked for McNabb.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Defensively, I think this is the week to let Fat Albert play most of the game and turn him loose and let him bring the pressure however he wants straight up the middle, coupled with a very healthy dose of blitzing by Rak. They should really bring the heat this week. Favre this year seems to be more susceptible to making poor decisions under pressure than in years past. And their WRs don't particularly scare me any more than some others we've seen this season. This seems to be a perfect game to get our +/- ratio up.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 23, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Just so you know beep, you're an idiot/moron/d0uche is never worn out. The classics never die. Now the wife/girlfriend/mom thing is quite played out.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 23, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Wife/gf/mom jokes can still be funny, if used properly.

Simply claiming fornication of some sort happened with said female won't cut it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Major Dad screwing up on the sidelines and Favre throwing pick 6s.

Posted by: brownwood26

Naw wasn't that guy in Simon and Simon - he had a mouth painted on his heli-chopter

Posted by: ElYeah | November 23, 2010 10:30 AM


That's the same guy. Dead ringer for Chilly.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Simply claiming fornication of some sort happened with said female won't cut it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:34 AM

How about claiming that they ate crow out of your butt last night? And asked for more?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

jeez... looking at those lists (thanks guys) i don't see an abundance of interior o-lineman....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 23, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Cool, NERD'S not on there!!!!

Also, I don't think Personal_Fowl_Body_Odor is gonna like this list, 'I own you' comes out of his mouth every post.

Posted by: monk811 | November 23, 2010 10:29 AM |

Monk?

I fu*ked your mother's fat ass on your own bed in her basement while you were riding the short bus to school and sporting your Pizza Hut uniform you doosh. She was screaming that I owned her but I ended up giving her a dirty Sanchez before I left her used and abused, e-mailing you a photo of her to memorialize the session for you.

I think that covered at least half, yeah?

Cheers you loser!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 23, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse


I'd rather we keep fat al. We already paid him most of his guarenteed money. I think we're only on the hook for 6 mil a season until like 2013. Why get rid of him? It's a sunk cost at this point.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 23, 2010 10:31 AM |

loser and quitter, the guy would had played for the titans last sunday if he had it his way

in my eyes, the guy has never been a redskin since day one of his acquisition

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Simply claiming fornication of some sort happened with said female won't cut it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:34 AM

How about claiming that they ate crow out of your butt last night? And asked for more?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

And that I secretly videotaped the whole thing.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

And that I secretly videotaped the whole thing.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:39 AM

And sold the video tape to Personal_Fowl.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Yeah not a lot of help outside Logan Mankins. Let the bidding begin(in a few months).

Posted by: Stu27 | November 23, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

And that I secretly videotaped the whole thing.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:39 AM

And sold the video tape to Personal_Fowl.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Now that's funny.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 23, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Yeah not a lot of help outside Logan Mankins. Let the bidding begin(in a few months).

Posted by: Stu27 | November 23, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully we rattle of a bunch of wins and end up with low enough in the draft to justify taking Mike Pouncy or the center from PSU in the first round.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 23, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm not necessarily adverse to big name/money signings as long as they're on a first time FA and the guy is not a documented malcontent with flags (AH). Old free agents? No thanks. I'm also against trading for big name guys when it involves picks.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 23, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

As a prototypical poster on this here blog, I am against signing any free agents. I am also against keeping the players we have as they are all terrible. I am against trading draft picks for players, but also agains using them on any players that we would draft. Draft picks should only be traded for more draft picks, so that we can use them to trade down in the draft.

I also came to your your mom's basement to kick your ass but you were commuting to your job at Dairy Queen on the short bus, so I diddled your wife's sisters girlfriend instead, you non-spelling, Snyder-defending, non-football knowing,70-year-old-still-in-high school gay Rebublican d0uche phukers.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 23, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse


what do you call 2 blondes riding shotgun ?

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I also came to your your mom's basement to kick your ass but you were commuting to your job at Dairy Queen on the short bus, so I diddled your wife's sisters girlfriend instead, you non-spelling, Snyder-defending, non-football knowing,70-year-old-still-in-high school gay Rebublican d0uche phukers.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 23, 2010 10:48 AM

F U

Posted by: beep-beep | November 23, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Steve Winewski PSU, name reminds me of Stevie Janowski from East bound and down. Also Maurkice twin Mike would be a great pickup, and in all honsty I think and hope that we target them. Both will be mid first rounders, Mike will go before Steve...

Posted by: Stu27 | November 23, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

getting back to football, with Peterson/Harvin/Schianco the vikes have a bunch of weapons, and with the skins being down possibly Landry, gonna be tough sledding if they can't get pressure on Favruh....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 23, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

what do you call 2 blondes riding shotgun ?

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 10:50 AM


Hess and One?

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse


beeps peeps

Posted by: hessone | November 23, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Seems to be a lower-than-average IQ range on here today.....

Posted by: justmike | November 23, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

This game will be similar to the Eagles' game. Vikings by at least 17. Vikings' pass rush will be lethal and Peterson is going to have a huge day against the Skins' run defense. Who is going to tackle him once he gets in the secondary - Doughty, D-Hall, Kareem Moore?

Posted by: coparker5 | November 23, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Who is going to tackle him once he gets in the secondary - Doughty, D-Hall, Kareem Moore?

Posted by: coparker5

---------------------------------------------
That's funny. I'm willing to bet everyone thought the exact same thing about Chris Johnson before last week

Posted by: capitol_hill_bossman | November 23, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

On the other hand, the question is are the Vikings catching the REDSKINS at the right time.

Posted by: stevelnyc | November 24, 2010 2:37 AM | Report abuse

On the other hand, the question is are the Vikings catching the REDSKINS at the right time.

Posted by: stevelnyc | November 24, 2010 2:37 AM | Report abuse

On the other hand, the question is are the Vikings catching the REDSKINS at the right time.

Posted by: stevelnyc | November 24, 2010 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Exactly the wrong and worst possible time. The Skins have proven time and time again in the past few years that they are the best team to play against for a team that has reached bottom. Vikes will look like a new team this week - just watch...

Posted by: andyherr | November 24, 2010 7:06 AM | Report abuse

If we have learned anything about the 'Skins it's they tend to play down to the level of their opponent. If the 2-7 Vikes come to town, expect the Skins to play like they are 1-8. One they should win ends up with fans shaking their heads in disgust.

Posted by: agrimech | November 24, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Yep

Posted by: andyherr | November 28, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

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