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Posted at 5:12 PM ET, 12/15/2010

Redskins hold rare practice on artificial turf

By Barry Svrluga

With the three grass practice fields at Redskins Park frozen on Wednesday, Coach Mike Shanahan moved practice to the rarely used artificial turf field.

"You can't get any traction," Shanahan said. "You go down every play. So the choices were limited."

Shanahan said the use of the turf, though, can have an impact on the knees of veteran players.

"I don't usually practice on turf," Shanahan said. "For older guys, it's a little bit tougher on the legs."

Only two players sat out practice completely, according to the official injury report - defensive linemen Kedric Golston (groin/elbow) and Phillip Daniels (stomach). Cornerback Carlos Rogers, who has missed three of the past four games with a hamstring injury, returned in a limited fashion, and Shanahan said he looked "good."

Receiver/kick returner Brandon Banks (knee), outside linebacker Lorenzo Alexander (hamstring) and free safety Kareem Moore (knee) also were limited.

Shanahan said running back Ryan Torain, who ran for 172 yards last week following his return from a hamstring injury, suffered no setbacks and was a full participant Wednesday. Kicker Graham Gano (ribs), quarterback Donovan McNabb (hamstring) and center Casey Rabach (knee) all were able to work through the entire practice.

Several Cowboys missed practice altogether, including linebackers Keith Brooking (foot), Bradie James (knee) and Sean Lee (shoulder) and cornerback Terence Newman (illness). Running back Marion Barber (calf) and receiver Roy Williams (groin) were limited.

By Barry Svrluga  | December 15, 2010; 5:12 PM ET
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Comments

Kiper is a hack....Didn't he also say Clausen was a top 5 talent?


Kiper is a hack, no question.

But this just isn't the year to snag a lineman with a top 10 pick, no matter what folks post.

The upcoming draft as q-backs, receivers, linebackers, de-ends, and d-tackles.

You gotta take your best pick from what's offered, you can't demand from draft what it doesn't have in terms of talent.

The draft year for lineman was '09--and we took Orakpo and Jarmon in rounds 1 and 3.

How's that workin' for ya'?

But quality lineman can be had in rounds 2-5.

Jahri Evans, g, Saints, for example was a 5th rounder.

Logan Mankins, g, Pats, was a 7th rounder.

The redskins would do well to increase the number of mid round picks it has via the trade of vets that some other team might want.

A 4th or 5th for AH, for example, is sorta what I'm talking about.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

here's my draft scenario,

1st rnd - ingram or laMichael (or best RB in college)

2nd rnd - interior offensive lineman

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 15, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Redskins are awesome in practice BTW

perhaps the best practice team in history

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 15, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

But quality lineman can be had in rounds 2-5.

Jahri Evans, g, Saints, for example was a 5th rounder.

Logan Mankins, g, Pats, was a 7th rounder.

The redskins would do well to increase the number of mid round picks it has via the trade of vets that some other team might want.

A 4th or 5th for AH, for example, is sorta what I'm talking about.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 5:22 PM |

Here's a rebuttal to your lameo post.

1. "Quality can be had - if you have a sharp eye." How many sharp eyes are there, other than the sharp "I" that someone should up your big?

2. Ain't no other team want no Skins vets. The Skins have one of the highest suck-grade rosters in the league.

3. Ain't no other team going to give the Skins no 4th or 5th for lardo. They'll just wait until he is released and they can pick him up cheap if they actually want the dud, which most would not even cheap.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 15, 2010 5:28 PM |

Dude - you would make a genius GM. Your FF teams must be off the board.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

It's even more infuriating than Jason Campbell's dying swan attempts at sliding.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 15, 2010 5:23 PM


On that topic, I've watched several Oakland games this year, and at some point between last season and this season the light bulb went on and JC finally learned how to slide.

It's a fluid motion and everything.

Nearly fell out of my chair, I did.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 15, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet every coach in the league is drooling at the prospect of being able to acquire the Skins' AH in the offseason. Dude - come right in and undermine my authority and poison the locker room. And then we'll go pound some brews!

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Nearly fell out of my chair, I did.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 15, 2010 5:49 PM |

Big deal, dude. I'll bet you was sitting in one of them footons.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Mark Ingram would look good in a skins uni. I'd rather they got a NT, QB, or OL if available but if not I wouldn't complain about Ingram. Especially if he turns into an AP caliber back.

Posted by: skinswest | December 15, 2010 5:24 PM

Posted by: skinswest | December 15, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

crimescene

re:

How many sharp eyes are there, other than the sharp "I" that someone should up your big?

I would comment on our response to my 'lameo' (in what language is that a word, btw?) post, but the cited note above suggests you need the assistence of a sharp-eyed English teacher.

Perhaps American English and Football are both your second language as most folks cite Mike Shanahan as an astute just of offensive linemen.

The guy who popularized zone-blocking is our head coach, sir, and I'd say he'd know just which linemen to choose.

Shanny's low-round drafted linemen in Denver ('cept R Clabo) all fit a certain size and type, and all blocked for backs who got yards.

Why doncha go brush up on your English?

We already know you'll never learn anything else about football.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

You should google 'Double negative'.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 15, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Only two players sat out practice completely, according to the official injury report - defensive linemen Kedric Golston (groin/elbow)

I know its 2 injuries, but when I read it, I momentarily flashed on what a single 'groin elbow' injury might be. The results were were funny, in a 3 Stooges kind of way.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 15, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

2. Ain't no other team want no Skins vets. The Skins have one of the highest suck-grade rosters in the league.

3. Ain't no other team going to give the Skins no 4th or 5th for lardo. They'll just wait until he is released and they can pick him up cheap if they actually want the dud, which most would not even cheap.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 5:42 PM


Emmitt Smiff? Is that you?

Seriously...we're not writing an essay up here, but damn...at least type in English. Even Scottie Pippen would shake his head at that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 15, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I just had an image of Philip Daniels' midsection as one gargantuan muscular bruise. I chuckled a little.

Posted by: WishboneJr | December 15, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

At the end, Wide Receiver Julio Jones will be a Red Skins. At 6/4 220 with 4.4 in 40, we'll be OK at WR for a while.

Posted by: abxinc | December 15, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Carlos Rogers says you can't defend against a double negative.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 15, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I would comment on our response to my 'lameo' (in what language is that a word, btw?) post, but the cited note above suggests you need the assistence of a sharp-eyed English teacher.

Perhaps American English and Football are both your second language as most folks cite Mike Shanahan as an astute just of offensive linemen.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 6:02 PM |

1. "our response"

2. "an astute just of ..."

Christ pal, if you're going to bust someone's chops over their poor language skills, the least you could do is post an entry that has the right words. BTW - below is the dictionary definition of "lameo":

lameo - someone who is often ignored, or arrogant, or stupid, or just plain rude.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Seriously...we're not writing an essay up here, but damn...at least type in English. Even Scottie Pippen would shake his head at that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 15, 2010 6:20 PM |

My father couldn't afford to send me to no Ivy League college. For better or worse I is a product of the DC pub ed system, remedial ed div.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Wherefore art thou, Lameo?

Posted by: freakzilla | December 15, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

At the end, Wide Receiver Julio Jones will be a Red Skins. At 6/4 220 with 4.4 in 40, we'll be OK at WR for a while.

Posted by: abxinc | December 15, 2010 6:26 PM |

Yeah, sure, pal. Just like we was with Devin Thomas. Them's his numbers.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

You should google 'Double negative'.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 15, 2010 6:11 PM |

My father taught me that if you want to make a negative statement, pack as many "no"s in the sentence as you can. The more "no"s in the sentence, the more negative the statement is.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

My father
Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

My daddy used to have a cheer leading baton, cause we from Canadia, and we weren't allowed to have no guns, So my daddy got a cheer leading baton and used to whoop that tail after I... look the point is, either you saying a negative statement... or you ain't. Either way the trolls will get you.


All jokes aside, this thread is making a slow day at work all the more entertaining.

Posted by: WishboneJr | December 15, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Nice one freak.

Posted by: mack1 | December 15, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse


The redskins would do well to increase the number of mid round picks it has via the trade of vets that some other team might want.

A 4th or 5th for AH, for example, is sorta what I'm talking about.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 5:12 PM |
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sweet yeshua, that's music too my ears. more, more, more...


Posted by: hessone | December 15, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

My father taught me that if you want to make a negative statement, pack as many "no"s in the sentence as you can. The more "no"s in the sentence, the more negative the statement is.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough!

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 15, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

But quality lineman can be had in rounds 2-5.

Jahri Evans, g, Saints, for example was a 5th rounder.

Logan Mankins, g, Pats, was a 7th rounder.

The redskins would do well to increase the number of mid round picks it has via the trade of vets that some other team might want.

A 4th or 5th for AH, for example, is sorta what I'm talking about.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 5:12 PM

Moe- there is a short list of guys that I won't bash over the head for such an egregious mistake. You're on the list.

Logan Mankins was a 1st RD pick in 2005 and Jahri Evans was a 2006 4th.

But to your point...Quality lineman can be had in all RDs of the draft. The only caveat is that you have to draft em in order to find him. We haven't and therefore we have ONE quality lineman.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Logan Mankins was a 1st round choice not a 7th.

The Skins could have traded AH for a 4th at the trade deadline. They'll get nothing for him now...

Posted by: NYCSkin | December 15, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Moe- there is a short list of guys that I won't bash over the head for such an egregious mistake. You're on the list.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010

I'm sure I made this list as well......

Isn't this dallASS week?

Posted by: dcwun | December 15, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

The more "no"s in the sentence, the more negative the statement is.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 6:42 PM


No, the more names like "pabrian2003" and "Alan4" are attached to it, the more negative the statement is.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 15, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Word freakzilla.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 15, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Off-season prediction #1: Skins announce that they are switching back to a 4-3 defense shortly after they get rid of Haynesworth.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 15, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Off-season prediction #2: coparker5 retracts off-season prediction #1.


(Jus' funnin'.)

(But no, we won't go back to the 4-3.)

Posted by: freakzilla | December 15, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Am I alone in here? Yeah? Well, get a life, you people!


Oh.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 15, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

By Rich Tandler

The Washington Redskins are no longer the oldest team in the NFL.

Based on the ages of the players on each team’s 53-man roster going into the games of Week 14, the Redskins are tied for the sixth-oldest team in the NFL. The average age of their roster is 27.8 years (all ages are as of Dec. 31, 2010).

Going into the 2010 season, the NFL released age data for the 32 teams' rosters and determined that the Redskins were the oldest team in the NFL.

Washington's average is just a shade above the NFC average, which stands at 27.7 years old. The NFL average age is 27.2.

The oldest 53-man roster belongs to the Baltimore Ravens, who come in at 28.3. They are followed by the Vikings (28.2), Browns (28.0), Steelers (28.0), and Bears (27.9). The Redskins are tied with the Jets for sixth. The remainder of the ten oldest teams are a shade over a month older than the Redskins with the Saints, Chargers, and Seahawks all coming in with an average of 27.7 years old.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the NFL’s youngest team with a roster averaging 25.6 years old. Working up the list from there, the second-youngest team is the Panthers (26.2) with the Eagles (26.3), Jaguars (26.4), and Dolphins (26.4) rounding out the youngest five.

Skins starters

The Redskins starters also are among the oldest in the league but a bit younger than a few other teams. Washington’s starting 22 (all starters as designated on the Week 14 depth charts on NFL.com) averages 28.7 years old. That also is tied for the sixth oldest in the NFL.

The teams that have the five oldest groups of starters are the Ravens, Vikings, and Cowboys (all at 29.2 years) and the Cardinals and Titans (both at 28.8). The starters for the Saints and Broncos average 27.7 years old, the same as the Redskins.

The youngest starters belong to the Panthers (25.5), followed by the Bucs (26.0), Eagles (26.3), Dolphins (26.6), and Raiders (26.7).

The average age of Washington’s starters matches the NFC average at 28.7. The average starter in the league is 28.0 years old.

Six starters over 30

Six of the Redskins’ starters—LB London Fletcher, FB Mike Sellers, QB Donovan McNabb, C Casey Rabach, NT Maake Kemoeatu, and WR Santana Moss—are 30 or older.

Fifteen other NFL teams have more starters over 30. The Titans have the most with 10, followed by the Vikings and Browns with nine each.

The Dolphins only have one starter who has seen his 30th birthday and the Panthers and Texans have two apiece.

The Redskins have a total of 14 players 30 or older on the roster. Four teams have more than that while five other teams also have 14. The NFL average is 11.

Heading in the right direction?

Age, of course, is just a number. Not all young players are equal and not all old players are equal.

(more)

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44

...there is a short list of guys that I won't bash over the head for such an egregious mistake.

Bash away.

After all, I am not perfect.

But it is okay if folks think that I am.


Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

(con't)

Generally speaking, if your team is successful you don’t mind being older. The Ravens and Steelers certainly aren’t worried about being among the four oldest teams in the league since they are sitting with nine and ten wins, respectively. The Bears are sitting atop the NFC North and they’re not worried about their average age.

Teams like the Redskins, Vikings, and Browns, however, with five wins each have to be concerned. Aging and mediocre is not where you want to be in the NFL.

It does appear that the Redskins are headed in the right direction. There are 25 players currently are on the roster who were not on the either the 53-man roster or in the team’s injured reserve list in 2009. Of those 25 new players brought in by Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen, 20 are 28 years old or younger.

This next draft and free agency period will be critical to the team getting younger. If a four or five drafted players can push out some of the older players and some free agents in their primes (26-28) can do the same, the Redskins could be dramatically younger as a group in 2011.

However, if only a few draft picks make the team and the free agents acquired skew on the older side, the Redskins are likely to end up the same as they are now—aging and mediocre.

All ages are as of 12/31/10; Starters/reserves as of Week 14 depth charts:


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

At the end, Wide Receiver Julio Jones will be a Red Skins. At 6/4 220 with 4.4 in 40, we'll be OK at WR for a while.


I say 'Thanks, but no thanks,' to drafting a receiver with top picks this time around.

You have to hope for two really nice developments this offseason:

--Anthony Armstrong improves

--Some other unknown, undrafted diamond in the rough-type guy like AA joins the team

--FA money (and not draft picks) is used to add a big time WR

--Santana Moss is re-signed

--we would submit Malcolm Kelly's name here, but this post isn't designed to make you laugh out loud..

..so we won't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Time for looking at truly rebuilding through the draft. As posted on another thread the Vikings are losing their starting HOF QB (we will never forget you Brent)and their starting perennial all-pro DT P. Williams (retiring) The run the WC offense and and 4-3 defense. they need a QB and a starting DT now. We need high Draft picks that are early in the draft. They would be great draft trade Partners.

** A #1 now and a future pick based on performance of the pair (maybe a second)would be fair.
That would give us 2 #1s and a 2nd this year. and a #1 and 2 # 2 next year.

Posted by: boysheadcoach | December 15, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Aging and mediocre is not where you want to be in the NFL.


Or, you know, anywhere else.


Unless you're in a union.


Which NFL players are.


Hmmmmm.....

Posted by: freakzilla | December 15, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44

...there is a short list of guys that I won't bash over the head for such an egregious mistake. bash away.

After all, I am not perfect.

But it is okay if folks think that I am.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 9:22 PM

Nah, jusy trying to keep this somewhat accurate up here and with some I keep it civil (no jokes, no wit, and no name calling).

Now as far as perfection...

http://sportstailgaters.com/blogs/media/blogs/photos/Football/.evocache/Redskins%20Cheerleader.jpg/fit-720x500.jpg

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I should be doing my paper (due by end of day tomorrow), but I'll comment anyways. I don't care what type of lineman we get in the first and second rounds, we need at least two of them, if not more (trades). If we get a QB, then we need to be sure we can afford and obtain the players we'd target in free agency. We need to get rid of players that we should have gotten rid of last offseason (Carter especially) for whatever we can get for them, playing hardball this time unlike with Cerrato around. Please NO NO NO to RB and WR in the first 2 rounds of the draft without us having at a minimum (all starting caliber) 2 new guards, or 1 guard + 1 canter, a NT, and at least 1 new LB/DE for the 3-4. If we are going to go outside of 1. groomable QB, 2. linemen, or 3. CB/FS, with our first round pick, I'd like to see all of those new players on our squad mentioned earlier without giving away half our future draft picks.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | December 15, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

-FA money (and not draft picks) is used to add a big time WR

--Santana Moss is re-signed

--we would submit Malcolm Kelly's name here, but this post isn't designed to make you laugh out loud..

..so we won't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the draft, at this point, this year's DL class is shaping up to be a good group especially for 3-4 teams picking in the top 10.

Bowers
Fairley
Jordon
Clayborn

All provide interesting options at DE, and DT in nickle situations. The one thing going for the Skins is that picking around the #10 spot, the Skins should have some trade partners in the teens where the Olmen should be coming off the borad.

Posted by: TWISI | December 15, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I would think Danny boy, with all his money, would have built the team an indoor practice facility by now. Frozen fields and artificial turf should not be an issue for one of the most valuable sports franchises on the planet.

Posted by: unquiltom | December 15, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

"The oldest 53-man roster belongs to the Baltimore Ravens, who come in at 28.3. They are followed by the Vikings (28.2), Browns (28.0), Steelers (28.0), and Bears (27.9). The Redskins are tied with the Jets for sixth."


Wow...weren't a bunch of people up here before the season b*tching like little girls about how we were the oldest team in the league and how we were gonna suck because of it? Out of the 6 teams listed above, 4 of them are likely to go to the playoffs. The title "oldest team in the league" is a skewed and unimportant statistic, so I'm not exactly sure why anyone would give a sh*t anyway...

Co-sign on the indoor practice facility...seems we've been talking about this since Spurrier was here and you'd think Danny would be on that by now. Definitely something that needs to happen. Just as long as we don't use the people that put the one up in Dallas...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 16, 2010 5:27 AM | Report abuse

Wow, our old friend Jim Zorn still making headlines for all the wrong reasons:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Picture-Jim-Zorn-s-sideline-attire-makes-Belich?urn=nfl-295851

Never thought we'd get another coach that would be a bigger embarrassment to the burgundy and gold than Steve Spurrier...yet here stands Jim "Maroon and Black" Zorn...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 16, 2010 5:57 AM | Report abuse

Redskins notes and analysis

By John Keim

1. The big topic today, and one that could be a building one as the season unfolds, was Donovan McNabb. Again. And this whole topic resurfaced because of national reports stating that Rex Grossman might start (or had taken more reps in practice last week, suggesting he might play vs. Tampa Bay). Were they true? Haven’t confirmed it, but just know that Chris Mortensen and Jay Glazer were the reporters and have many, many sources.

2. Coach Mike Shanahan wouldn’t say if McNabb would start, opting for coyness. At times he appeared to enjoy the sparring with the media, which asked the same question many different ways. Part of the gig. Shanahan tried to play it off as if he wanted to toy with Dallas. But it is odd that he wouldn’t come out and say McNabb was his starter. Just leads to questions going forward and Shanahan has to know that.

3. McNabb is not worried about any of this. “I can’t afford to,” he said. “If I don’t get that from the guy who makes the decisions, then I don’t focus on it. There’s been reports and sources say all throughout the last part of my career.”

4. I don’t know who the sources were on this story; I do know both reporters have been around a long time and have some excellent sources in every organization. Smoke often equals fire. That’s why McNabb’s future with Washington will remain up for debate until he’s back in training camp.

5. McNabb did say his relationship with Shanahan and offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan improved after his benching in Detroit. “The communication got a lot better,” McNabb said. “We were the talk of the bye week so everyone wanted to know if it was going to get better and it did.”

6. Tight end Chris Cooley, who made a crack Monday during his paid weekly appearance on 106.7 The Fan that fans could come “watch him block.” This after he caught just two passes in the loss to Tampa. Of course, he does have 62 catches this season. “It’s frustrating to run routes and be open,” Cooley said. “But on a lot of those routes Santana made plays. As a player you want them to find ways to get you the ball and we talked about that too. But I’ve had a lot of catches. I’m not going to go back and complain to anyone about not catching balls. I might give a persuasive nudge.”

7. Cooley said it was not the plan to go away from him vs. the Bucs. He also said he likes this offense because he’s used a little more as he was in the Al Saunders system, where he’s in motion about 60 or 70 percent of the time. “I feel very confident in my ability to block guys in motion,” Cooley said. “I feel better starting routes in motion instead of in a static position. I always feel like I’m in an advantage in this offense. I don’t go into games saying, ‘I’m gonna have to do a hell of a job this week because it’s going to be tough for me. I go into games saying I have to know my stuff and do what I’m supposed to do and I’m very confident in my ability to do that.”

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 16, 2010 6:13 AM | Report abuse

8. Shanahan said Hunter Smith’s inability to handle a poor snap on the botched extra point was not the reason for his release Tuesday. Rather, Smith’s hangtime and poor punting was the issue. In his last 20 punts, he only had two where he had the acceptable hangtime. The Redskins like the ball to be in the air for at least 4.3 seconds. “I told Hunter I admired the way he stepped up and blamed on himself,” Shanahan said. “It was a combination of the snap and the hold, but Hunter is the type of guy that took full responsibility for that. I said I was going to keep you just for the way you handled yourself. … It had nothing to do with the hold.”

9. I don’t doubt for a minute that Smith’s punting led to the release; it had been mediocre at best. And I don’t doubt that his age played a factor; he’s 33 and is what he is – a declining punter. But there’s a small part that wonders what would have happened had he controlled the hold.

10. Cornerback Carlos Rogers (hamstring) was limited in practice Wednesday, but Shanahan said he “looked good.” The Redskins are hopeful that he’ll play Sunday at Dallas. Place kicker Graham Gano (ribs) was able to practice, but defensive ends Kedric Golston (groin) and Phillip Daniels (stomach) were sidelined. It’s uncertain if they’ll be able to go Thursday. Safety Kareem Moore (knee), returner Brandon Banks (knee) and linebacker Lorenzo Alexander (hamstring) were limited.

11. Because this is Dallas week, here’s the quote from Brian Orakpo: “You can’t get no bigger regardless of the record. It’s all about pride; it’s all about prestige…This determines what kind of team we have and what kind of players we have on this team.”

12. Cooley is very honest about what it’s like at this time of the year. “It’s not a lot of fun to play when your ultimate goal can’t be achieved. It’s cold out here; it isn’t a lot of fun. Obviously we’re still playing for something. There’s a lot as far as building this team and I think there’s a lot of confidence as far as the players go, in us becoming better and really building to be a good team. So you look forward to that and you look forward to the future I guess.”

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2010/12/redskins-notes-and-analysis-2#ixzz18Gw47aUR

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 16, 2010 6:15 AM | Report abuse

"At the end, Wide Receiver Julio Jones will be a Red Skins. At 6/4 220 with 4.4 in 40, we'll be OK at WR for a while.

Posted by: abxinc | December 15, 2010 6:26 PM |

Yeah, sure, pal. Just like we was with Devin Thomas. Them's his numbers.

Posted by: CrimeScene | December 15, 2010 6:38 PM"


I think you're each missing the point (just in different ways).

If you need to haul firewood, you don't buy a Ferrari.

Yes Ferraris go very fast and are really sexy looking...but they have NO storage space or hauling power.

Any WR will not upgrade this team faster than fixing EITHER or better yet, BOTH lines will.

This team needs to build the basics.

Get a REAL NT in the draft, so the 3-4 has a chance to work correctly. W/O a real NT, the defense will not get sufficient pressure vs the Pass, and will not have great stopping power against the run.

An NT will allow the DEs to have to do less helping in the middle and churn up along more positions of opposing O-Lines, allowing the OLBs to force RBs outside vs the run, and increase outside pressure against the pass.

The next steps would be to draft a young center of the future to help the O line, and then get some help at CB in F/A this year and draft a young CB in 2012 [when the better crop will be coming out].

The team can still get some decent WR help in F/A as well without breaking the bank.

Thereby addressing more needs at a better cost to player value as well.

Posted by: ThinkingMan | December 16, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

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