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Posted at 3:47 PM ET, 01/ 3/2011

Redskins trying to learn how to win close games

By Barry Svrluga

When Mike Shanahan addressed the media after Sunday's season-ending loss to the New York Giants, he tried to assess a 6-10 season - and put something of a positive spin on the results.

"Obviously, when you finish the way we did, with six wins, you've got some areas to work on," Shanahan said. "On the positive side, there were six games in there that we had a chance - I think five of those we were ahead in the fourth quarter, and two we were three points behind. We had our chances if we could finish. Hopefully, in time, we will learn how to finish and be a better football team."

Several players clung to that theme both Sunday night and Monday as they cleaned out their lockers. And, indeed, six of the Redskins' 10 losses were by six points or fewer.

"You look at the games we lost, you look at how much we lost by, that's definitely a positive thing," center Casey Rabach said. "We're so darn close in so many games. We just got to build on that, hopefully."

The flip side of that, though, is that the Redskins never won a game by more than six points - a feat they accomplished once, in the season-opening 13-7 victory over Dallas. Their margins of victory this season: 6, 5, 3, 3, 3, and 3 points - a total of 23 points, an average of 3.8 points. In the last three seasons, the Redskins have won by double digits just twice.

"In most cases, ballgames are gonna be won three points or less, six points or less," linebacker London Fletcher said. "In the fourth quarter, things like that, there's plays that you can make. The thing we did is we competed all year long and gave ourselves an opportunity in a number of ballgames to win them at the end. That's one of the things that has us excited by our possibilities. Now we need to win more of those ballgames."

Indeed, the Redskins played more close games - games decided by six points or fewer - than any team in the NFL, six wins and six losses. Only Atlanta, Chicago and New Orleans had as many wins by six or fewer points, and only Dallas, Detroit and Green Bay had as many losses by that margin.

So what to make of it? Were they that close to being in the playoffs? Or were they that close to having a disastrous, 3-13 season? With the season over, the players are taking the optimistic stance.

"It's sweet knowing we could be a 10-, 11-win team if a couple plays go our way," rookie offensive tackle Trent Williams said. "It's something to build off of, but we're not where we want to be by any stretch of the imagination."

By Barry Svrluga  | January 3, 2011; 3:47 PM ET
Categories:  Mike Shanahan, Trent Williams  
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Comments

I don't like Haynesworth personally, but he's likely had a better season if the 'skins had stuck with the 4-3.

Posted by: TheCork | January 3, 2011 3:37 PM |

He would have had a better season if he'd made half an effort to play in the 'Skins defense, whether it was 4-3 or 3-4. His bad season is on him, not on the coaching staff.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 3, 2011 3:43 PM |

Agreed. Haynesworth possesses an established pattern of laziness going back to his high school days. Once he got his ride to TN, he mailed it in (per players on his own team). Once he knew at TN he was going to be a pro, he mailed it in. In the pros, once he blew up in his contract year, he knew he wouldn't ever have to bust his butt again.

The thing with lazy people is that they can always identify what they believe to be a 'loophole'.

In this case, Haney and his agent heard the Skins new DC would switch to a 3-4. I envision them both throwing up their hands, smiling and saying, "That's our out!" We didn't sign up for THAT.

Hate to break it to you fools, 4-3 or 3-4, Haney wasn't going to play anyway.

You know he was in the 4-3 last year, how'd that work out? The dude quit at 12:01a.m. on the opening of free agency in '08 when he signed the 'Skins 100 deal.

Forget Haney. He was done before he ever stepped foot in DC (or MD or VA).

Next?

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 3, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I would also argue that we were pretty lucky to win ANY of our games.

We only outgained our opponent in 3 of our 16 games.

We were the only team not to beat an opponent by more than 6 points.

3 OT games, a game saved by a holding call, a game won on a dropped pass by Avant, and a game won by a Cutler meltdown and no challenge by Lovie.

Looking at the stats, you might not think we won a game all year.

We're much closer to 0-16 than the playoffs.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 3, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 3:44 PM |

Unlike Diesel44, your football IQ is pretty low. You look at stats and take them at face value instead looking deeper to see what is going on. In the case of Carter, without Haynie huffing and puffing away and attracting double and triple teams, Carter's stats in 2009 would have been considerably lower. Other teams knew this and were not offering much if anything in a trade for him.

Posted by: ArcticCat | January 3, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

No he would rather be 6-10 with young cheap guys that can get better, then old expensive guys who are getting worse.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 3, 2011 2:55 PM |

Dude - we needs to sub out "guys" in you post and sub in diff words for it to be better.

He would rather be 6-10 with young cheap subs that can get better than old expensive stars who are getting worse.

Posted by: ArcticCat | January 3, 2011 3:06 PM | Report abuse

No he would rather be 6-10 with young cheap guys that can get better, then old expensive guys who are getting worse.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 3, 2011 2:55 PM

I agree with that sentiment (not really caring how much the players cost as long as they perform), but it's not obvious from the list.

Trung Canidate was only 26 years old when he played with the Skins, BLloyd was 25 years old when he was here (and he seems to have gotten better since he left). They both underperfomed in a Skins uni.

DMac5 fits your description of old and expensive better than anybody on the list.

Clinton Portis is only 29 years old now and definitely earned his pay up until about 2 years ago.


Posted by: Alan4 | January 3, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for coming to the rescue Flounder 21...but let me clarify my point.

We gave a pick and new contract to Brandon Lloyd

Clinton Portis had guarunteed money and the ear of the owner

Trung Canidate sucked

How many years have we said WE NEED TO FIND YOUNG, CHEAP TALENT TO DEVELOP???? So what if they're subs...where have you been over the last 10 years. We've had ZERO depth and ZERO youth...remember Pete Kendall and John Jansen and Randy Thomas???

I'm saying I'd rather go 6-10 with young "SUBS" than 6-10 with overpriced FA's that HAVE ALREADY BEEN PAID!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 3, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | January 3, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Call me when they start trying to win blowouts.

Posted by: shekb | January 3, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I think it's the right attitude to build on. If the defense could have played a little better in those games, if the kicker would have hit a couple more field goals, if Rogers would have held on to one more interception, and about a thousand more "ifs" the team would have done a lot better. If they can get just a little better in all of those areas...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 3, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

ryp, nailed it....

cork, "I don't like Haynesworth personally", ironically, he always spoke highly of you......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 3, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

We only outgained our opponent in 3 of our 16 games.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 3, 2011

Kinda hard to do when you give up 400 yards a game.

Posted by: dcwun | January 3, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Garbage like this give false hope. This team is just awful. So many holes to replace...

Posted by: Stu27 | January 3, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Last year's team lost 7 games by 6 points or less, too.

I can appreciate the positive spin, but quite frankly Zorn could have said the exact same thing last year.

Shanahan and McNabb were supposed to be the difference-makers this year, to win those close games (according to those who blamed Zorn/Campbell for being idiots).

Posted by: Alan4 | January 3, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

You know Z... now that you mention it, Chicago seems to be the new FA landing spot. They might give up something for Carter.

Posted by: iH8dallas

Not hard to find teams that would look at Andre and see plenty of value.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 3:44 PM |

So, what you're saying is that you don't know of a single team that made an offer for the guy and it's Shanahan's fault for "fitting a square peg in a round hole"? This is why Zeke's Unique Perspectives are unique. No one else can agree with them.

Posted by: beep-beep

beeps, neither you or I know what was done in an attempt to move Andre prior to 2010. But I know he had plenty of value then, much less value now.

As for trading Carter to Chi, I think that would have been more likely prior to the 2010 season. They had weaknesses at both DE spots coming out of 2009. Peppers fixed 1 spot, but the other was a pretty big question mark -- Carter would have been an excellent fit.

Turned out that Idonije, who'd had 8 sacks in 6 years prior to 2010, managed to have 8 sacks in 2010. While Chi might have been interested in Carter before 2010, my guess is that they now think they're OK at both DE spots.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted at 3:47 PM ET, 01/ 3/2011 Redskins trying to learn how to win close games

Hey, if I was the Skins I would be more interested in figuring out what went wrong in the two blowout losses against intradivision rivals Philly and NY than in trying to understand why some close games were lost. If you can correct the blowout mistakes the close games will take care of themselves.

Posted by: ArcticCat | January 3, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

This team has more gaping holes than a Rocco Siffretti flick. That's all the more reason to draft a QB and shelve him for a year at least so he can get the system down to second nature while we are bolstering our O and D lines.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 3, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

We only outgained our opponent in 3 of our 16 games.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 3, 2011

Kinda hard to do when you give up 400 yards a game.

Posted by: dcwun | January 3, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Given how bad our D was, I'm surprised it was as high as 3 games...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | January 3, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Zeke--

Andre Carter is no "Top 10 DE." That is another of your "unique perspectives."

He's had ten years in the league and he's had only three years with more than 10 sacks -- 66 total in ten years. He's 31 years old and has never been to a Pro Bowl. You haven't named a single team who made an offer for the guy, or even one who was rumored to have made an offer.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 3, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

This team has more gaping holes than a Rocco Siffretti flick.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 3, 2011 4:11 PM |

How about more gaping holes than a house of ill repute?

Posted by: ArcticCat | January 3, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I think we have found a winning formula for the defense:

Get rid of fat jerks. It really seemed to work.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 3, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

This team has more gaping holes than a Rocco Siffretti flick.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 3, 2011 4:11 PM |

How about more gaping holes than a house of ill repute?

Posted by: ArcticCat | January 3, 2011 4:15 PM |

Trust me, Rocco has that house beat. Dude goes straight for the turd-cutter.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 3, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan says...

Everybody from the coaching staff stays.

I would have gotten rid of Danny Smith, but it's not like he's the one missing 30 YD FGs or botching snapd on XPs.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 3, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

So the Andre Carter thread threw me a little. I try to keep up on stuff like that but I missed this one. I did not know his contract was voidable. That throws a monkey wrench into any trade for draft pick scenarios involving him. I don't see us paying him a $4mil bonus just so we can trade him for a mid to late round pick. More than likely he's gone and an unrestricted free agent.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 3, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

dies, did he mention if Kyle is grounded because of how poorly the offense was run??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 3, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan says...

Everybody from the coaching staff stays.

I would have gotten rid of Danny Smith, but it's not like he's the one missing 30 YD FGs or botching snapd on XPs.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 3, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse
Stability in the coaching staff? Wow...I like it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 3, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

As for trading Carter to Chi, I think that would have been more likely prior to the 2010 season.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse
------------------------------

And Carter would still have had to sign off on the trade... to a team who had just finished 7-9, whose QB looked shell shocked, then let said QB hire the OC, whose HC was in serious jeopardy, and who was playing in a division with a rising GB team and a powerful Vikings team which was a preseason favorite to run towards the SB. I'm telling you, CHI looked no better than the Skins last off-season.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 3, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

2011 Schedule

16 game
Home
DAL
PHI
NYG
SF
AZ
MIN
NE
NYJ

Away
DAL
PHI
NYG
SEA
STL
CAR
BUF
MIA

18 game add
TB - home
DET - away

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 3, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Zeke--

Andre Carter is no "Top 10 DE." That is another of your "unique perspectives."

He's had ten years in the league and he's had only three years with more than 10 sacks -- 66 total in ten years. He's 31 years old and has never been to a Pro Bowl. You haven't named a single team who made an offer for the guy, or even one who was rumored to have made an offer.

Posted by: beep-beep

beeps, just telling you what he did in 2009. Top 10 among DEs in sacks, tackles, fumbles recovered.

There were probably 20-40 DEs drawing bigger paychecks than Carter -- a bunch whose paychecks were double and in some cases triple, what Carter got.

If I'm with Chi and I just invested $15mil/year in Peppers, I'd want to pair him with someone worthwhile. But Chi went into 2010 with a starting DE who'd never had a season with more than 3.5 sacks, just 1 year younger than Carter.

It worked out for Chi because their guy had a career year (pretty much out of nowhere), but Carter would have been a superb fit for that team. Just one example.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Shanny just mentioned we lost 6 games by 3 points or less.

I am simultaneously hearing Spurrier's hayseed voice saying "Not the worst team in the league." after his now-famous....

"Fiiiive & eleven, not tuh good."

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 3, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

...Forget Haney. He was done before he ever stepped foot in DC (or MD or VA).

Next?

Posted by: Personal_Fowl

great post on haynesworth; I agree completely.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | January 3, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Call me when they start trying to win blowouts.

Posted by: shekb | January 3, 2011 4:02 PM |

I'm sure they'll keep you on speed dial.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 3, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't see us paying him a $4mil bonus just so we can trade him for a mid to late round pick. More than likely he's gone and an unrestricted free agent.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 3, 2011 4:22 PM

This was also the reason there wasn't a trade market for him last YR. Nobody was giving us a mid rd pick for an aging DE with that contract. Thanks again Vinny.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 3, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan and McNabb were supposed to be the difference-makers this year, to win those close games (according to those who blamed Zorn/Campbell for being idiots).

Posted by: Alan4 | January 3, 2011 4:07

Yep, and like I've said many times before, I expected more than a 2 win difference bringing in the genius and boy wonder to handle the offense.

The dynamic duo is responsible for 30 of the 53 on the roster. For some reason, few (Da Mayor did a little bit)place any blame of Shanny for the way he's handled several situations this year.

Most new the 3-4 wouldn't work right now. You can't bake a cake if you only have grits in the cabinet. We only created more holes to fill.

Posted by: dcwun | January 3, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan says...

Everybody from the coaching staff stays.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 3, 2011 4:19 PM |

While the Skins may not want to fire HasHadIt, what they do need to do is get some 3-4 wiz to game plan for them. That stinker of a game plan against Philly when Vick went nuts will live in infamy.

Posted by: ArcticCat | January 3, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the McNabb/Hayynesworth stuff was a warning to all FA next year?

Maybe Shanahan intentionally punked these bit

It was like he walked into the Chow Hall and punched the hardest dude in the teeth.

No more half a$$ in DC.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 3, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

arctic, don't just limit it to that game either.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 3, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

As for trading Carter to Chi, I think that would have been more likely prior to the 2010 season.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse
------------------------------

And Carter would still have had to sign off on the trade... to a team who had just finished 7-9, whose QB looked shell shocked, then let said QB hire the OC, whose HC was in serious jeopardy, and who was playing in a division with a rising GB team and a powerful Vikings team which was a preseason favorite to run towards the SB. I'm telling you, CHI looked no better than the Skins last off-season.

Posted by: mattsoundworld

Chi did get Peppers and Urlacher was hurt in 2009, so it was reasonable to expect their defense to be much better. Plus they hired Martz as OC, so the offense was also likely to improve. But agreed, Carter would have needed to sign off on any deal. Chi, while improved, still didn't look like a playoff team prior to 2010.

Point is, there were several places where Carter would have been a valuable asset. DC wasn't one of them -- and we knew that before the season started.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the McNabb/Hayynesworth stuff was a warning to all FA next year?

Maybe Shanahan intentionally punked these bit

It was like he walked into the Chow Hall and punched the hardest dude in the teeth.

No more half a$$ in DC.


Posted by: iH8dallas | January 3, 2011 4:31 PM

Having 2 of the NFL's biggest FA busts is nothing to be proud of. Especially when you gave up 2 high draft picks to a division rival to get one of them.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 3, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

dies, did he mention if Kyle is grounded because of how poorly the offense was run??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 3, 2011 4:23 PM

Not grounded.....BUT

MS found out that Kyle and Rex were roommates last YR w/ the Texans and that Kyle has matching tattoos with Chris Simms. He's making Kyle turn to religion to cure him of his greatest fear.

He's also taking away his Xbox 360, apparently he has an unhealthy addiction to Call of Duty.

No but he's taking away his xbox 360.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 3, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan says...

Everybody from the coaching staff stays.

Posted by: Diesel44

Haven't heard this ... Shanahan says he's going to evaluate everyone. Is he already done evaluating coaches and decided they all did well?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the McNabb/Hayynesworth stuff was a warning to all FA next year?

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 3, 2011 4:31 PM |

In the upcoming FA market there will be a line around the corner to sign Skins contracts. And who can blame them?

1. Everyone wants to play for a 6-10 team.

2. Everyone wants to play for a steel-ball-clicking HC.

Posted by: ArcticCat | January 3, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

He's also taking away his Xbox 360, apparently he has an unhealthy addiction to Call of Duty.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 3, 2011 4:37 PM |

Dude - that's like saying someone has an unhealthy addiction to fat-free milk.

Posted by: ArcticCat | January 3, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Good one Diesel on Shanny Jr. I'm not discounting that baby shanny has a place in the league, but him and daddy should have known that seeing eachother on holidays was their best bet. I hated and still hate that they are this tandem. It just reaks all over the place and I think is at the pit of a lot of stuff that happened this year.

And all you arguing with Zeke, ask him about how I lost only 2 games in the RI fantasy league and beat him in the championship game. My second crown if you are counting...

Zeke the GM

Posted by: chrislarry | January 3, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the McNabb/Hayynesworth stuff was a warning to all FA next year?

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 3, 2011 4:31 PM |

In the upcoming FA market there will be a line around the corner to sign Skins contracts. And who can blame them?

1. Everyone wants to play for a 6-10 team.

2. Everyone wants to play for a steel-ball-clicking HC.

Posted by: ArcticCat |

Got a ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES about the offseason that I'll put up at some point -- and its about who would want to come here. Let's just say, there are a bunch of folks who won't have DC high on their list.

Which might not be a bad thing ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

movable type is force that can not be over come.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 3, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

And all you arguing with Zeke, ask him about how I lost only 2 games in the RI fantasy league and beat him in the championship game. My second crown if you are counting...

Zeke the GM

Posted by: chrislarry | January 3, 2011 4:44 PM |

You wanna crown 'em? Then crown his ass!

He is who we thought he was!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 3, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

zeke the GM is "less than" chris LarrY the Gm


(RI hates greater than/less than signs)

Posted by: chrislarry | January 3, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

What are the areas that require the most improvement?

Top 3:

Qb
D-line
WR

So, of each of these, what would our strategy be?

1 QB: The only quick fix would be competition. McNabb will be in camp with a keen eye on not letting his career end (potentially) with a massive disappointment. If we have a good shot at a franchise qb at the 10th pick, we had better pull the trigger.

2. D-line: Nose tackle in the draft or FA; simple. Then we develop from within and pick up players where we can. The defense better be looking a lot better next year or else.

3. WR: We need to pick up a FA WR...even if we have to pay for him. Resigning Moss to a big pay-for-play contract would be a good idea too.

I know, I know there are others (ie oline, RB, LB, DB etc), but those really are not our primary areas of concern. These are the first-things-first sort of elements of the team which are the most lacking as of now at the end of the season.

As for the others, solutions for RB: Torain and Davis for now, CB: resign Rogers and teach him to catch, LB: build cheap depth (Riley), oline: has improved greatly and will continue to, but needs depth.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | January 3, 2011 4:51 PM | Report abuse


Shanahan says...

Everybody from the coaching staff stays.

Posted by: Diesel44

Haven't heard this ... Shanahan says he's going to evaluate everyone. Is he already done evaluating coaches and decided they all did well?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 4:39 PM |

RI will report this later this week.

Shanahan has apparently decided that continuity is the way to go..

This roster was garbage and they'll have a robust FA talent pool and a draft to start the rebuilding process. A year too late but better late then never.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 3, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

In the upcoming FA market there will be a line around the corner to sign Skins contracts. And who can blame them?

1. Everyone wants to play for a 6-10 team.

2. Everyone wants to play for a steel-ball-clicking HC.

Posted by: ArcticCat |

Your mom wants to play for a 6-10 team.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 3, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

And all you arguing with Zeke, ask him about how I lost only 2 games in the RI fantasy league and beat him in the championship game. My second crown if you are counting...

Zeke the GM

Posted by: chrislarry

Congrats cL, those 4 points for 'home field advantage' got you over the top.

But that's the way FF is. Scored a ton more points than you over the season, but my 3 WRs, all Pro Bowlers in '09, gain 70 yards total on the last game and poof, I lose a close one.

fwiw, Future Winners beat me in the other finals. He had Aaron Rodgers at QB -- I traded Rodgers to him last year -- Future used him as his keeper -- and he came back to beat me this year.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Not grounded.....BUT

MS found out that Kyle and Rex were roommates last YR w/ the Texans and that Kyle has matching tattoos with Chris Simms. He's making Kyle turn to religion to cure him of his greatest fear.

He's also taking away his Xbox 360, apparently he has an unhealthy addiction to Call of Duty.


No but he's taking away his xbox 360.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 3, 2011

Even your nemesis thinks that is too funny!

Posted by: dcwun | January 3, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

In addition to winning close games, they also could try a little harder to convert on third down.

Beeps.

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2011 4:57 PM | Report abuse

cL, actually pretty happy with my FF teams, even though I'd have liked the championships. Had too many injury issues with my receivers.

Lost Malcom Floyd on both teams, he was having a big year and missed most of the games after about game 6. Lost Dallas Clark on one team, Jermichael Finley on the other. With 3 receivers -- and my best 2 out, made for a challenging year.

Stashed Sidney Rice away for the end of the year on both teams, only to have Joe Webb as his QB and both FF playoff weeks, Minny had their games postponed.

At this point, RI has had 5 seasons of FF, and the champs are:
Zornskins (now Shanallenskins)
Futaleufu Swimmers (me)
Carroll ST F Bombers (cl, twice)
Future Winners (not sure his name up here)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 3, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey Shanny....here's how to win close games. Score more points than the other team. You know how?? By having a great O line and QB, and a great defense. Look at all the really good teams, and that's what they have. Think Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Falcons, Saints....there's the template for success. NFL 101

Posted by: Riggo2 | January 3, 2011 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey Shanny....here's how to win close games. Score more points than the other team. You know how?? By having a great O line and QB, and a great defense. Look at all the really good teams, and that's what they have. Think Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Falcons, Saints....there's the template for success. NFL 101

Posted by: Riggo2 | January 3, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

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