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Return to sidelines will stir Shanahan's emotions

On Sunday night, Coach Mike Shanahan will lead the Redskins for the first time in the regular season as they kick off things against the Dallas Cowboys at FedEx Field.

The game also will be Shanahan's first that matters since he was fired by the Denver Broncos after the 2008 season. He acknowledged the game will have personal significance to him.

"I think you look forward to it. You're just like the players -- your stomach is turning and you look forward to this opportunity. You come back in January and you're putting a new football team together.

"There are a lot of pieces that go into it, starting with the coaching staff, looking at personnel, making a lot of decisions, going through free agency, the draft and all the things we've talked about here; going through OTAs.  It's something that I look forward to and is something that I think our team will be very proud of the way they've worked and the way they've handled themselves. Hopefully it shows up on Sunday night."

For the most part, being featured on NBC's big stage is great for the organization, Shanahan said, but there are drawbacks as well.

"I look at the pluses and minuses," he said. "It's a Sunday night and you get a chance to play in front of the country. Obviously, you're on stage and the other teams get a chance to watch you. I think it's very important to our players and to the organization.

"At the same time, sometimes you like a routine where you just have normal afternoon game and you kind of keep that routine all the way through. Monday nights are the same thing. It's tough to have the short week but you enjoy playing on the stage on Monday nights. There are pluses and minuses there."

By Jason Reid  |  September 10, 2010; 8:00 AM ET
Categories:  Dallas Cowboys , Mike Shanahan  | Tags: Cowboys-Redskins rivalry, Mike Shanahan  
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Comments

The sideline is a great place to be.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 10, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

The sideline is a great place to be.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 10, 2010 8:10 AM


It's even better when they provide transportation from the field to the sideline, huh, you beached whale?

Posted by: ahwyatt | September 10, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Here's hoping Shanahan can get us to play better in primetime...night games have not been our friend in recent years...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse


Wonder if father and son are in each others ears Sunday night ? You have to have a special relationship in order to work with your son / dad in any profession.

Romo, 2 int's, 1 fumble, 4 sacks and a bloody nose.

Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Orakpo will knock Romo out like Lavar did to Aikman, the best thing he ever did.

Posted by: monk811 | September 10, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Here's hoping Shanahan can get us to play better in primetime...night games have not been our friend in recent years...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 8:21 AM
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True that. I wonder if the team has had any night practices to get ready for playing under the lights?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 10, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Wonder if father and son are in each others ears Sunday night ? You have to have a special relationship in order to work with your son / dad in any profession.

Romo, 2 int's, 1 fumble, 4 sacks and a bloody nose.

Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Been there, can't say it better myself.

Shanahan is I think he is the kind of coach who would have kicked some heads in back in the 60's. The coach that belongs in a suit or something on the sidelines, a pro. And I think that his son has a lot of that in him as well, but his son has a chance to be like Billicheck in NE, the son of a coach who was raised in the belly.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 10, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse


Shanahan is I think he is the kind of coach who would have kicked some heads in back in the 60's. The coach that belongs in a suit or something on the sidelines, a pro. And I think that his son has a lot of that in him as well, but his son has a chance to be like Billicheck in NE, the son of a coach who was raised in the belly.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 10, 2010 8:33 AM |

alex, don't recall this one thrown around, but your post brought to mind that dad could groom son Kyle to be the next Redskin HC.


alex,

Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

My belly hurts.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 10, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Hess, it shouldn't be an issue...Kyle calls plays, Mike handles the in-game decisions and what not. Seems like they've got a good relationship so I think it's a non-factor.

Revenge is a dish best served cold...here's hoping we can do to Romo's nose what they did to our punter a few years back...

http://football.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=221128006

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

I like the fact that Kyle S wanted to come up through the coaching ranks on his own rather then taking a job with his dad right away. Name recognition/tradition can go a very long way in the NFL its always impressive when someone makes it on their own accord. If Kyle can keep putting up numbers the sky is the limit for him.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 10, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

watched last night, Carl Nicks was a guy that I had hoped the team would take a run at in the draft a few years back, late round cat too...he was just collapsing the Minny line...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 10, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Here's hoping Shanahan can get us to play better in primetime...night games have not been our friend in recent years...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse


True. And I'll add that afternoon games have not been our friend either...nor have early games for that matter...

...in fact, games in general have not been our friend recently.

Posted by: p1funk | September 10, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse


Revenge is a dish best served cold...here's hoping we can do to Romo's nose what they did to our punter a few years back...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 8:39 AM |

Check that,

Romo, 2 int's, 1 fumble, 4 sacks and a BROKEN nose.

Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

I hate calling to mind losses to Dall-ass...so I'm evening out the karma by posting this sweet list from redskins.com:

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Cowboys__Top_12_Wins_In_Series_4256.jsp

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

I like the fact that Kyle S wanted to come up through the coaching ranks on his own rather then taking a job with his dad right away. Name recognition/tradition can go a very long way in the NFL its always impressive when someone makes it on their own accord. If Kyle can keep putting up numbers the sky is the limit for him.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 10, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse


Well, I wouldn't exactly say that working for Gary Kubiak is the same thing as working up through the coaching ranks on his own, given the Kubiak-Shanny history.

Either way, I'm impressed with the fact that his offenses have been successful. To me it doesn't matter how you get in the door; what matters is that you can hold your own once you're inside.

Posted by: p1funk | September 10, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Well played, pfunk...

Greg, I'll co-sign the Carl Nicks love...that dude is a total beast. And he's only 25. How bad do we need a guy like that right now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Did everyone see that Papa John's commercial with 'Midget' Snyder and Jerry 'The Lush' Jones? They looked a little too buddy-buddy for me. I know it was a commercial and all, but shouldn't the owners of the biggest rivalry in all of sports at least show a little that they want to choke each other?

Posted by: monk811 | September 10, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Revenge is a dish best served cold...here's hoping we can do to Romo's nose what they did to our punter a few years back...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 8:39 AM

If that was the thanksgiving day game brown, I nearly lost my turkey dinner when that happened...yuck!!!!

Posted by: PlayAction | September 10, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

brown, the worst part of it is, he's a 5th/6th round pick...and the guy we picked instead of picking him is probably not even in football at this time...probably works with Doug Heffernan, red's boy....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 10, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

"Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth"

If you feed the troll, it gets to be as big as Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 10, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

pfunk, to be fair, it's not like Kyle walked in the door as the OC...he came on as a position coach (can't remember if it was WR coach or QB coach) and moved his way up to OC. Considering what he did with the Texans, he's more than earned his keep.

This ain't like the obvious nepotism that Schottenheimer brought to town in '01. I'm pretty sure his wife was doling out Gatorade on the sidelines that year...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Well, I wouldn't exactly say that working for Gary Kubiak is the same thing as working up through the coaching ranks on his own, given the Kubiak-Shanny history.

Either way, I'm impressed with the fact that his offenses have been successful. To me it doesn't matter how you get in the door; what matters is that you can hold your own once you're inside.

Posted by: p1funk | September 10, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

But Kubiak was his 2nd job in the NFL, he started at UCLA, then went to Tampa before going to work with Gary. Not to mention he is sophisticated enough to coach WR's and QB's.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 10, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

"[Carl Nicks] made the famous quote "I'm going to MF'ing Disneyland" as the Saints left the field after winning the Super Bowl."

Posted by: Samson151 | September 10, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse


Dallas drove downfield in the game’s waning moments, but safety Kenny Houston tackled running back Walt Garrison at the goal line to preserve a Redskins victory. "That’s the biggest tackle I’ve made in my life," Houston would say.

We're talking goose-bumps here. A nice warm feeling throughout the body.

Not one to give TO any credit, but you got to love when he scored a td in Dallas and stomped on the star at midfield.

Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Did everyone see that Papa John's commercial with 'Midget' Snyder and Jerry 'The Lush' Jones? They looked a little too buddy-buddy for me. I know it was a commercial and all, but shouldn't the owners of the biggest rivalry in all of sports at least show a little that they want to choke each other?

Posted by: monk811 | September 10, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse


I got a chuckle from it. Although I was watching in high-def, and Jerry Jones's face was straight scary when they zoomed in...they can cake on the makeup all they want, but dude is the crypt-keeper.

Between that commercial and Snydes making charity appearances and doing coin flips at high-school football games and all, I have a feeling that a big part of Bruce Allen's job is to refurbish Snyder's image.

Posted by: p1funk | September 10, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Sunday night's game can't be anything but an improvement over the last Sunday night debacle for the Redskins -- at home against the Giants last December.

That game had to be one of the lowest points in a generally horrendous season and featured the infamous swinging gate play (called twice!) that proved to be the final nails in the coffin for Zorn and his coaching staff, Vinny, Campbell and several others.

The "stadium experience" that evening was also worth remembering -- as fans were aggressively body searched on the way into the stadium lest they should be wearing any sort of clothing that might offend Little Danny the Dictator, or carrying any signs, paper bags or other materials that might somehow be interpreted as expressing fan discontent with the way things were going at FEDEX Field.

Posted by: Vic1 | September 10, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Did everyone see that Papa John's commercial with 'Midget' Snyder and Jerry 'The Lush' Jones? They looked a little too buddy-buddy for me. I know it was a commercial and all, but shouldn't the owners of the biggest rivalry in all of sports at least show a little that they want to choke each other?

Posted by: monk811

Hahahah.
It is so funny that we are one of only a few teams to outright hate our owner. I don't think JKC ever got mentioned in print, maybe only a couple times a year, and only when it had to with charity work or something else directly related to franchise business at the owner level...then again JKC didn't run the team so badly that the league had to step in for, amoung other things, gouging his ticket holders.

We universally despise snyder for being a punk b'tch who has run the franchise into the ground. Eat d'ck snyder; I wont forgive you for being a low life idiot.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 10, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse


"Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth"

If you feed the troll, it gets to be as big as Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 10, 2010 8:54 AM |

An easy co-sign here.

Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | September 10, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

He was a GA at UCLA and got his first job in the league under Jon Gruden before becoming the yougest O coordinator in the league w Houston. Dudes put in his work is all im saying, it wasnt given to him.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 10, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

MistaMoe, Samson151,

One, I think Favre is still the QB he was last season. He can still heave the ball a country mile with accuracy. His receiving corps in Minnesota this year just isn't very good. I think Collinsworth was saying he was surprised they didn't use Camillus more last night, and I think the answer is he just doesn't know the playbook, yet. Getting him involved more, getting Rice involved more, getting Harvin on the same page with Favre - all of those things will help Favre's numbers. Frankly, I don't know how he keeps playing this young man's game at his age, and I keep saying that eventually it will all catch up with him. then he just goes out and plays another game without hitting the wall. I'm done betting against him.

As far as the game last night, I think the Saints are not up to end of season form yet, but who is? They didn't look bad - especially on that first drive - and they were able to wear Minnesota down with their running game in the second half. I wouldn't write them off. Brees is the real deal. He made some really nice plays last night and when you have a quarterback that can make things happen, you have a team that should never be counted out.

BTW, did anyone catch the Papa John's commercial with Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder? It just about made me vomit to see a Redskins owner having anything to do with that moron from Dallas. I just hope whatever they were paid to do the commercial went to a worthwhile charity...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 10, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Ugh...don't remind me Greg. It's even worse because I think we actually had a 5th rounder for a change...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

"[Carl Nicks] made the famous quote "I'm going to MF'ing Disneyland" as the Saints left the field after winning the Super Bowl."

Posted by: Samson151 | September 10, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse


That's funny.

I can see the commercial playing out.

Cue up "When you wish upon a star" - Carl Nicks is riding on the parade platform at Disneyworld pounding his chest and throwing gang-signs and slim-shadies up in the air while Snow White stands next to him and waves at the throng of on-looking children.

Posted by: p1funk | September 10, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Stu27 | September 10, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse


Gotcha.

Yeah, my point is that I give the guy props regardless because his stuff works. Even if Daddy Shanahan was making calls on his behalf, he's proven that he knows what he's doing.

Posted by: p1funk | September 10, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Shanahan is I think he is the kind of coach who would have kicked some heads in back in the 60's. The coach that belongs in a suit or something on the sidelines, a pro. And I think that his son has a lot of that in him as well, but his son has a chance to be like Billicheck in NE, the son of a coach who was raised in the belly.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 10, 2010 8:33 AM |

alex, don't recall this one thrown around, but your post brought to mind that dad could groom son Kyle to be the next Redskin HC.

alex,

Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 8:38 AM
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I read somewhere that the plan was for Senior to coach for three years and then ascend to a position of President of Football operations with Junior and Allen reporting in to him. Don't know if that was just wishful thinking, but I like that kind of long term planning. I think I would be just hunky dory with that.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 10, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

The team doctor says it is normal for fat people to feel tired.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 10, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Re: Jones and Snydes

They've been friends for some time. When Snydes first got the Skins, much was made of their budding relationship and the fact that Snydes really admired Jones as an owner. IMO, if you want to do a case-study on the failure of the Redskins ownership over the past decade all you have to do is analyze the impact of 2 things - (1) Snyder's friendship with Vinny C as an incompetent yes-man, and (2) Snyder's admiration of Jerry Jones as a Baby Huey meddler who breaks his toys over and over again.

Posted by: p1funk | September 10, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I read somewhere that the plan was for Senior to coach for three years and then ascend to a position of President of Football operations with Junior and Allen reporting in to him. Don't know if that was just wishful thinking, but I like that kind of long term planning. I think I would be just hunky dory with that.


Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 10, 2010 9:06 AM


This scenario only has a shot at happening if Sr. wins...and wins big. If this is much of what we saw the last decade, I'm not sure you keep anything...

Not saying it'll work that way, just sayin' that it's not a foregone conclusion like some seem to imply.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Ricky and brownwood, just want to let y'all know that I co-sign what you both had to say about blacks or African-Americans and their "love" for the Cowboys. I know fanhood is usually passed down from generation to generation, but I don't understand why they started root for the Cowboys in the first place. Taking a stand on racial inequality is one thing, but to root for a team over perceived racial equality is shallow and just plain ignorant.

Kinda off topic, but it's sort of like voting for a president because he's black or looks black.... STUPID! If that's the case Wyclef Jean, should he ever put a bid in to become president of the United States, won't just garner 90 something percent of the black votes, he'll have 'em all! Again, STUPID! While I'm at it F Floyd Mayweather too and the "people" who try and justify what he said. Had Pacquiao or any other boxer or person who isn't black said anything remotely close to what he said they'd be getting crucified right now! Fighting racism with racism... STUPID!

Back to 'Skins/Cowboys: ESPN 990 had a good session yesterday on the state of the Cowboys/Redskins rivalry. I didn't know the first Cowboy's owner acquired the rights to "Hail To The Redskins" and basically held it hostage until Marshall voted them in for an expansion team.


See, that's why the rivalry can never be what it once was. Those two hated each other, Dan and Jerry's families vacation with one another.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 10, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Gotcha.

Yeah, my point is that I give the guy props regardless because his stuff works. Even if Daddy Shanahan was making calls on his behalf, he's proven that he knows what he's doing.

Posted by: p1funk | September 10, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

I dont think this is like Archie Manning rigging the draft so his boy dosent have to play in SD.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 10, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

red, I'm good friends with Wyclef's younger brother Sam....true story...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 10, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I don't hate Dan Snyder.

Posted by: rickyroge | September 10, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I must say I'm freaking ECSTATIC!!!

I don't think I can wait any longer, those gold pants are gonna be the shiz.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | September 10, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Hahahah.
It is so funny that we are one of only a few teams to outright hate our owner. I don't think JKC ever got mentioned in print, maybe only a couple times a year, and only when it had to with charity work or something else directly related to franchise business at the owner level...then again JKC didn't run the team so badly that the league had to step in for, amoung other things, gouging his ticket holders.

We universally despise snyder for being a punk b'tch who has run the franchise into the ground. Eat d'ck snyder; I wont forgive you for being a low life idiot.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 10, 2010 9:01 AM
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I don't despise Snyder. I genuinely believe he has done, in his mind, everything he can to build a winner. He just had a real ugly, oft times mis-guided, learning curve and maybe things had to get as bad as they did last year before he finally acknowledged that he needed to have football people run his organization.

I think we are naive as fans because we expect these owners to plunk down $1.0 billion for a football team and then leave it 100% in the hands of someone else to run. Buying a football team is not the best investment out there. You have to love the game and, presumably, the team before you go so far as to buy a team. It is real hard for someone with that kind of passion to stay out of the business. Hell, we buy Madden just so we can do the kind of things a guy like Snyder tried to do. Like I said, though, I think our owner gets it now. He learned how not to do things and he has taken a step back. He brought in football people to run the show. As fans, we should be hoping that the owner should stick around, because we paid dearly for his education through our broken hearts and shattered dreams. Nope, I don't despise Snyder. When you take away the billions, he probably isn't much different than any other Redskins' fan.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 10, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse


I noticed that the directv NFL commercials with the Cowboy's are one sided. The one with the Redskin's has a mutt Troy Barkman pissing on Redskin's paraphernalia. Last night it was the Eagle's turn as a waitress rung out her rag in Eagle fans iced tea. My question is, why run an ad in the Redskins market siding with the Cowboy's ? Same with the Brady ad at the top. Reminds me of Gibbs second year coaching the Redskin's and how you had to earn respect, and earn it we did.

Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

RSH, you would've hated the interview that Lindsay Czarniak did with Dan & Jerry. Nothing but a f-ing love fest between the two.


As a fan I hate, but from a business point of view I respect it. In today's NFL they are business partners after all.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 10, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

rsh, well put. I don't hate snyder either...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 10, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Everybody hates me because I am a rich black man.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 10, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedDMV

That is an interesting take; poignant. Ironic that the team with the "minority" associated name from a very racially diverse area is identified by some as biggoted and the cowboys from texas are not thought of this way. Nothing involving race makes sense when you stop looking at things the way they are and start idealizing people/organizations in the scope of subjectively analyzed history.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 10, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Stu...

I think that whole Archie/Eli coup against San Diego was so underreported.

That crap was bushleague that his "daddy" had to bail him out!

punk azz!

Posted by: rickyroge | September 10, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Right on Red...racism is racism, regardless of who is doing it to whom. It's always chapped my ass that when it's black on white, it's "reverse racism"...as if that kind of racism is somehow less than the white on black version. Sure hope I live to see a day when skin color isn't the first thing people see...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I need help from the older heads up here. Back in the 70s, there was a color drawing of Charley Taylor catching a pass and a cowboy player (don't recall who) was fully extended in the air trying to grab him. There were others pictures as well of other Redskins players in game scenes. I think you got it with a purchase at McDonald's or some other ff joint. Does anyone else remember that?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 10, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead...

Your breakdown of Snyder was brilliant and on point with my thoughts exactly. I am sure there are people who know him better than I...I'm sure he's fired people he shouldn't have, and sone things he shouldn't have, but as a manger of people myself, I've done it too.

Posted by: rickyroge | September 10, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

TWO...MORE...DAYS...

God I love football.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | September 10, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Everybody loves Dan Snyder because he is a generous white man.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 10, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse


brown, I'm looking forward to the day skin color AND status aren't the first thing people see. Folks judge a man by the cut of his close, car, the size of just about everything under the son he owns, and $$$.

Still love the Rodney King quote, "can't we all just get along" ?

Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

RSH, it ain't that cut and dry...while I believe Snyder wants to win and has tried to do it, he's tried to do it HIS way...which isn't the way to build a team. It shouldn't take 10 years to figure out you need to build through the draft and not overpay other people's FAs.

That said, I'm sure the "hate" for Snyder is more like "intense frustration". At least that's how I see it. I'd be shocked if there's still a ton of Snyder hate if we're winning a SB or two...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Happy Friday to my RI brethren.

Vegas is always right... Saints -5.... they even knew Minny would miss XP.

I'll take Fins -3 and Pack -3 as my locks of the week.

Hoping the weather passes before gametime Sunday...

I'll be sporting the burgundy ST 21 in Sect. 118 Row 3. And will be screaming my face off....

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 10, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

I read somewhere that the plan was for Senior to coach for three years and then ascend to a position of President of Football operations with Junior and Allen reporting in to him. Don't know if that was just wishful thinking, but I like that kind of long term planning. I think I would be just hunky dory with that.
Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 10, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Yes I think thats to be the "Best case Scenario" plan. And Shanahan has a 4 year contract i think, so it would probably be

Year 1, build the team Mike wants
year 2, run at the Super Bowl
year 3, run at the super bowl
year 4, mike's still HC, but starts building the team Kyle wants
year 5, Kile is HC.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 10, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

lmao @ beans! WTF?!?!?! Not to say that I don't believe you but that ish IS hard to believe!

What was his thoughts on Wyclef wanting to become president of Haiti? Was Wyclef even taking it seriously?

Again (I'm lowering my credit score) but I co-sign with you and RSH RE: Dan Snyder. They guy wants to win, and for the longest time didn't know how. Although jury is still out I think he's heading in the right direction. The man makes business decisions based on business, not emotion. I respect that all day!

The only time I think Snyder made decisions based on emotion was keeping Cerrato around for as long as he did. It seems like he came to his senses and realized he was giving Vinny chance after chance based on their friendship and it was costing him from a business aspect, once he caught himself, he issued Vinny the ultimatum.

This will be the only time I thank him, but THANK YOU Jim Zorn... for being a clueless head coach.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 10, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | September 10, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Mannings get what the Mannings want...I saw where there gonna change the rule that Payton was all hufty about.

I just like the fact that the gints got the lesser QB.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 10, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

We're going to get crushed again in PrimeTime:

2008: Loss vs. Giants 16-7
Loss vs. Steelers 23-6
Loss vs. Cowboys 14-10
Loss vs. Ravens 24-10
2009: Loss vs. Eagles 27-17
Loss vs. Giants 45-12
Loss vs. Cowboys 17-0

I can't wait till we get our 1 TD and I can go to bed.

Posted by: Scoonie97 | September 10, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

but as a manger of people myself, I've done it too.

Posted by: rickyroge | September 10, 2010 9:29 AM


Let me guess...you're a manager in charge of 27 people? And you drive a Dodge Stratus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu7MehcnZOU

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

I can't wait till we get our 1 TD and I can go to bed.

Posted by: Scoonie97 | September 10, 2010 9:38 AM


Why don't you do everyone a favor and just don't watch the game at all? If you need your beauty sleep so bad, just go the f*ck to bed early...asshat...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

red, true story, Sam Jean and I went to the same college together..he's living on the west coast now..he's in entertainment law..I knew him before anyone in his family became famous back in 1988...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 10, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse


Shanahan's emotions will certainly be stirred during and after the game. The primary emotions will be shame and regret. After all, his ratty mug and his name are now associated with the loser known as the Redskins. Danny Snyder threw a wad of cash at him and he couldn't help himself.

You knuckle draggers are about to find out first hand why the Cowboys are so beloved across America. WE GET IT DONE. BTW, the commercials are slanted in our favor because we're America's Team and that's that.

Feel free to continue dreaming about a victory on Sunday. Harsh reality will intrude soon enough.

Star Pride!!

Posted by: BigBlueStar | September 10, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

The team doctor says it is normal to be tired at night.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 10, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Man, last night sucked balls for fantasy stats. Thank God my opponent was starting Favre and the Minny Defense.

Pathetic.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 10, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

some here have been talking/speculating on the plan to have take over for his pop whenever pop steps down.

that would violate the rooney rule.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 10, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

For some reason, I keep forgetting that Shanny was fired in Denver. He has heard the folks who say he only won because of Elway. He is going to be out to prove the doubters wrong. I like that.

Posted by: manlius1 | September 10, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedSkinHead

Nope, snyder is a greedy azzhole. The inclination to be lenient by attributing his failures to a learning curve are based on the PR and publicity activities he uses to manipulate public opinion. We thought OJ was a decent dude until we found out he was a brutal wife beater; same idea. I believe that he knew his organization might be reselling tickets but maintained plausible deniability. He didn't improve the stadium, it is very expensive to get tickets, park, eat, etc. He over markets and promotes to the extent of being crass and gaudy. That retard kept vinny despite the obvious; I think the players were often seen as mechanisms to sell tickets not member of a team. He had the opportunity to run the organization right, but ego and short term gain outweighed considering the more important and responsible changes he could have made but decided not to.

As someone who works in organizational management believe me Ive seen it before.

Snyder is someone who you might say has no class but a lot of power.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 10, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

We're going to get crushed again in PrimeTime:

2008: Loss vs. Giants 16-7
Loss vs. Steelers 23-6
Loss vs. Cowboys 14-10
Loss vs. Ravens 24-10
2009: Loss vs. Eagles 27-17
Loss vs. Giants 45-12
Loss vs. Cowboys 17-0

I can't wait till we get our 1 TD and I can go to bed.

Posted by: Scoonie97 | September 10, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Those were all with the Zetard coaching.

This is a little different.

Our coach isn't classified as "Special Needs", and our QB isn't a deer in the headlights.

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 10, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: BigBlueStar | September 10, 2010 9:44 AM |

HAHA. BBS's name reminds me of that Blue Star Ointment.

Wasn't that stuff for jock itch? Maybe Jerruh slathered it all over his face and that's why you can bounce a quarter off his forehead and hit the giant HD screen in his stadium.

BLUE STAR OINTMENT!

He's just itching for a Cowpokes victory.

HAHAHAHA.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 10, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Man, last night sucked balls for fantasy stats. Thank God my opponent was starting Favre and the Minny Defense.

Pathetic.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 10, 2010 9:46 AM


I feel your pain...I have Favre as my QB, but thankfully my opponent started the Saints D. McNabb's my backup QB and I wouldn't be shocked to see him put up better numbers than Favre this week...

Anyone else pissed that NFLN sent Michael f-ing Irvin to Ashburn for this interview with McNabb? I mean, they have no less than two former Skins working there and they send Michael f-ing Irvin??

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

btw, not hatin' on the plan to have shanahan be shanahan successor, just sayin' they'd have to skirt the rules to make it happen.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 10, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse


Allow hess to weigh in on Snyder,

While Snyder ran my beloved Redskins into a ditch, it was also the way he's treated everyone across the board over the years that fueled my anger towards him.

In order to be a rational human being, I realize that looking myself in the mirror and criticizing my role in life is in order at least once a week. Taking the high road, I have considered Snyder's age and inexperience when he purchased the team and also considered the fact that we all make mistakes on a daily basis. I think everyone knows what I'm getting at here, and I hope that Snyder has done some soul searching himself. I also hope that Snyder keeps the little guy in mind when he makes his business decisions and stays out of football operations all together. That said, HTTR !

Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Shanahan's emotions will certainly be stirred during and after the game. The primary emotions will be shame and regret. After all, his ratty mug and his name are now associated with the loser known as the Redskins. Danny Snyder threw a wad of cash at him and he couldn't help himself.

You knuckle draggers are about to find out first hand why the Cowboys are so beloved across America. WE GET IT DONE. BTW, the commercials are slanted in our favor because we're America's Team and that's that.

Feel free to continue dreaming about a victory on Sunday. Harsh reality will intrude soon enough.

Star Pride!!

Posted by: BigBlueStar | September 10, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse


Hush!!!! Adults are chatting in here.

Posted by: leevi98 | September 10, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

beans, that's crazy but still cool. Never in a million years would've guessed that.

brown stomping the pessimists I see... good stuff. I have my concerns with the team and how they'll perform this season, but I can't see myself being a 'David Downer' TWO days before the game.

You know, the DALLAS game. F Dallas and ALL their fans with a VD dick! I've been talking BIG ish to some of my best friends and co-workers all week! 'iH8dallas' too!

Posted by: RedDMV | September 10, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

btw, not hatin' on the plan to have shanahan be shanahan successor, just sayin' they'd have to skirt the rules to make it happen.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 10, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

No you don't. You bring in a black guy, say "Hi, how are you?...We'll call you."

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 10, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I hope the food at FedEx is better this year.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 10, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I'm wearing my Theismann jersey at work today.

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 10, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

that would violate the rooney rule.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 10, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

That rule gets violated more frequently than Lindsay Lohans privacy.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 10, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

The Onion does team-by-team NFL preview:

Dallas Cowboys

•Strength: Yes, there are positives, but reading them will only make you angry and listing them will only make us angry

•Weakness: Other than being the most infuriating, knuckle-whitening, I-want-to-throw-a-brick-through-my-television-set-when-I-watch-them team in the league, are a little weak at free safety

•Intangibles: F*ck the Dallas Cowboys and every f*cking thing they stand for; special teams

•Biggest Question: Can they finally get over the hump and get back to the Super Bowl, and do they know how much that would depress the entire U.S. populace?

I just started liking the Onion that much more...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/onion-sports-2010-nfl-teambyteam-guide,18023/?slide=7

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 10, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I'm wearing my Haynesworth jersey at work today.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 10, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

some here have been talking/speculating on the plan to have take over for his pop whenever pop steps down.

that would violate the rooney rule.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch

703 stand up!


To you point it would, but it'll be no different than when Jim Caldwell took over for Dungy or when lil' Mora stepped in for Holmgren.

I respect the rule, but it's a swiss cheese rule. I see nothing wrong when a coach retires him handpicking someone to step in his place, but if he's fired then there should be a Rooney Rule like process.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 10, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I noticed that the directv NFL commercials with the Cowboy's are one sided. The one with the Redskin's has a mutt Troy Barkman pissing on Redskin's paraphernalia. Last night it was the Eagle's turn as a waitress rung out her rag in Eagle fans iced tea. My question is, why run an ad in the Redskins market siding with the Cowboy's ? Same with the Brady ad at the top. Reminds me of Gibbs second year coaching the Redskin's and how you had to earn respect, and earn it we did.


Posted by: hessone

There's the pro giants, anti cowboys spot with the taxi driver who face-plants the cowboys fan couple into the plexiglass divider. He then dumps them off deep in the hood, leaving them wondering if they are in Central Park.
That one is my favorite.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 10, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

The Onion does team-by-team NFL preview:

Dallas Cowboys

•Strength: Yes, there are positives, but reading them will only make you angry and listing them will only make us angry

•Weakness: Other than being the most infuriating, knuckle-whitening, I-want-to-throw-a-brick-through-my-television-set-when-I-watch-them team in the league, are a little weak at free safety

•Intangibles: F*ck the Dallas Cowboys and every f*cking thing they stand for; special teams

•Biggest Question: Can they finally get over the hump and get back to the Super Bowl, and do they know how much that would depress the entire U.S. populace?

I just started liking the Onion that much more...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/onion-sports-2010-nfl-teambyteam-guide,18023/?slide=7

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 10, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

That's awesome! I love the Onion's sports section.

You should watch the video about the Packers fan who is coming out of retirement again to continue drinking.

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 10, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I hope Haney downs a big beef & bean burrito during pre-game so he can blow deadly farts in Bony Homo's face while he is sitting on him in his own backfield.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 10, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

bbeeeepp

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 10, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

btw, not hatin' on the plan to have shanahan be shanahan successor, just sayin' they'd have to skirt the rules to make it happen.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 10, 2010 9:55 AM


No you don't...if you hire from within, you don't have to do the whole Rooney Rule routine. That sh*t has outlived its usefulness at this point anyway...

RL, that's funny stuff...my mom sent me that the other day, love how everyone is dumping on Dall-ass these days.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 10, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

I'm wearing my Nick Giaquinto jersey under my suit. I am longing for a moment where I can rip open my fine Brooks Brother's shirt and go Terry Tate on someone's azz in finance or HR.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 10, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

It's pretty interesting...the whole DC area and the division rivalry between the Skins and cowpukes. If you look at the history of DC, it was inhabited in the 30's and 40's by many poor white folks who moved from the South and West Virginny. The Skins were also the last team in the NFL to integrate african american players into the fold, not until 1962. It's a shame George P. Marshall was such a bigot. I can see why there would be so many cowpuke fans in the DC area, based on the DC area's historic racial divide and the passing down of team fandom from one generation to the next. If you didn't appreciate the racial stance of G.P. Marshall's Redskins, the cowpokes would be a natural choice, considering they blackmailed Marshall by buying the rights to "Hail to the Redskins," and were voted into existence in 1960.
I realize that this analysis is a bit revisionist, but it does shed some light on why DC has so many freakin cowpoke fans, 99% of which have NEVER BEEN TO DALLAS.

Posted by: aaronharman | September 10, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I don't hate Snyder at all. The man is actually turning into a very good owner. Like all things of this nature, it takes time to mature as a football owner.

The key for Snyder is/was finding out what works for him and this franchise. Not every franchise operates the same, and not every franchise CAN operate the same. What works for an Indianapolis may not work for a New Orleans. Snyder tried and failed early on, but he learned that his only mild success came when he handed the team over to true professionals (like Gibbs and Schottenheimer). He still puts everything he has into making the Redskins a first-class organization, which is more than a lot of other teams can say about their owners (in all sports).

Before it's all said and done, Dan Synder will end up being respected and revered by the Redskins fanbase. I fully believe that.

Posted by: psps23 | September 10, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I noticed that the directv NFL commercials with the Cowboy's are one sided. The one with the Redskin's has a mutt Troy Barkman pissing on Redskin's paraphernalia. Last night it was the Eagle's turn as a waitress rung out her rag in Eagle fans iced tea. My question is, why run an ad in the Redskins market siding with the Cowboy's ? Same with the Brady ad at the top. Reminds me of Gibbs second year coaching the Redskin's and how you had to earn respect, and earn it we did.


Posted by: hessone | September 10, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Those two Direct TV commercials are total slams of Bovine Cartel fans. Think about it...a young, plain looking, gold digger with a hideous Texas accent and a miserable old coot that's either demented or trying to tune her out...OR...a bitter old diner waitress who is in every toothless trucker's little black book. In short...PERFECT representation of Cowpie fans. Now if they could just figure out a way to poke fun at the losers who post on other team's fan blogs like CrackheadIrvin88 and BlueStarOintment. Something tells me they wouldn't get THAT either.

Posted by: MColeman51 | September 10, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Go cowboys! Go redskins! Go go go! May both teams win.

Posted by: password11 | September 10, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Beat Dallas...beat f-ing Dallas. Beat them. Beat them good.

OK, I feel better now

Posted by: InRealAmerica | September 10, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I am a Giants fan. Please beat up Rhomo real bad, and return Dallas and the Eagles to their rightful places in the NFC EAST - 3rd and 4th. Make our guys battle it out every year. We're like frat brothers playing each other. The Eagles and Cowgirls are like playing the drunken slob who crashes the party and the preppy boy who you crush cuz he just follows the latest craze like their bandwagon fans who have been nowhere to be found before a few years ago - MIA all the Way - Kill'em Thin Albert and Crew!.

Posted by: terptek | September 10, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys were the first team (or among the first) to scout, draft and sign players from HBCUs while Marshall was refusing to integrate his team. Do the math, if you are capable.

Posted by: tyroneshoelaces | September 10, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

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