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Shanahan: Redskins were willing to part ways with Haynesworth in February

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan addressed Albert Haynesworth's absence from minicamp, making clear his disappointment and confirming that the Redskins were willing to part ways with the defensive tackle earlier this spring.

Shanahan said he spoke with Haynesworth in February and gave Haynesworth permission at that time to find another place of employment. The team was willing to release Haynesworth if he would forgo the $21 million bonus he was due. But Shanahan said Haynesworth was only given until April 1 to locate another potential team.

"But on April 1, when we owed him a check for $21 million, we said, if you do take that check, we expect you to be the best defensive end, best nose tackle and if we played you at free safety, we'd expect you to be the best free safety -- even though he'd have to lose a little weight -- whatever position we wanted to play him at, that he'd do the best job he possibly could that would make him the best football player," Shanahan said.

"Obviously, he took the check, so I was surprised that he wasn't here today. Because I thought he did make that commitment and once he took that check, that he wanted to be a Washington Redskin, that he wanted to do the best thing for the Washington Redskins to help our defense and help our football team win. Obviously it didn't go in that direction, so quite disappointed."

So that would seem to clear up the discrepancy regarding the trade rumors surrounding Haynesworth. Shanahan and General Manager Bruce Allen have been adamant that they haven't been actively trying to trade Haynesworth, which could be technically true. Sources have said the team continued to engage in trade talks after April 1, but a team spokesman said the team was only entertaining the possibility of releasing Haynesworth.

Though Shanahan seemed to imply they gave Haynesworth permission to seek a trade, team spokesman Zack Bolno later clarified that the Redskins would have released Haynesworth had he found another team, presumably one that would be willing to help with the large bonus Haynesworth was due.

"Those rumors circulating around the National Football League that we were in trade talks were really his agent talking to a number of football teams, what teams may be interested in him or what teams he may be interested in going to," Shanahan said.

Asked if it'd be easier for the team to trade Haynesworth if he returned some of his $21 million bonus, Shanahan said: "That's pretty obvious, but like I said, we'll address that at a later date."

Shanahan said he learned of Haynesworth's intentions to skip this week's minicamp from media reports Tuesday night. He said he hasn't spoken with Haynesworth since the first day of the offseason conditioning program on March 15, the only day that Haynesworth set foot in Redskins Park during the team's offseason program.

"I'm here every day. I'm working every day, part of the offseason program. My doors are always open for any player," he said. "You want me to go down there, chase him around Miami?"

Asked how Haynesworth's absence could affect his team, Shanahan stressed that he's happy with his other nose tackle options and that because Haynesworth has yet to show up to any offseason workouts, nothing is really changed.

"We've been doing very, very well as a football team," he said. "Guys have been working very hard."

Shanahan wouldn't comment on any punishments or fines that might be doled out, and he didn't want to speculate on how the team would be affected if Haynesworth does return.

"Am I disappointed that he's not here, yes, yes, I am," he said. "Because I thought when he did take that check, he was going to make a commitment to be a Washington Redskin and do the best thing he could possibly do to help our team win."

By Rick Maese  |  June 16, 2010; 12:11 PM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth , Mike Shanahan , Minicamp  
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Russellmania09 (106.7 the Fan) tweeted:

Also sources tell the FAN that Haynesworth would be willing to consider returning a portion of the $ he has been paid to facilitate a trade.
about 2 hours ago via txt

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse


Russellmania09

.When I pressed Shanahan on a trade if Albert is willing to give some money back..he said in a humorous way that he didnt want to go there.
35 minutes ago via txt .

Hall says Haynesworth did not sound upset...saying "i dont know how u can be upset" in a joking laugh. #Redskins
38 minutes ago via txt .

#Redskins CB D. Hall says he spoke to Haynesworth last night. IT is what it is and pretty much defends Haynesworth in general terms.
39 minutes ago via txt .

SHanahan says they will not make up this practice saying he feels good. Says 3 or 4 guys can play NT.
about 1 hour ago via txt .

SHANAHAN SAYS IT IS A SHAME THAT ALBERT HAS GOT ALL THIS ATTENTION.SAYS THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN WILLING TO ACCEPT NOTHING IF 92 DID NOT TAKE $
about 1 hour ago via txt .

SHanahan said hes very dissapointed..and said if albert took the check he was told to be the best at any position they want him at #Redskins
about 1 hour ago via txt .

MIke Shanahan just said hes surprised 92 not here and they had given him until april 1 to talk to any team for trade purposes.

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm mystified by this... it's like the dam has broken, and all this truth (which Reid and others have been hinting at for months but never quite letting slip) is flooding out.

February... February!

Good grief, it never ends with this team.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 16, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I was on HAynesworth side until today....HE litterally stole $21Mil.....

Reports are coming out of MIA that Haynesworth just chilaxes at poolside of his high end condo on SOuth BEach all day....driving a plush white Rolls Royce...

And that he is not in shape...not even close....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Ah needs to get himself a lawyer, because he's being VICTIMIZED by the big bad redskins......what an embarrassment this guy is....what a self absorbed pr*ck....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Adam Schefter:

Texts on Albert from NFL people "You can't fix a bad guy"..."He is a total JERK!"..."Hope media go to town with this one and tear him up."
about 15 hours ago via UberTwitter

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(4th's note: Totally wrong on this guy....but still can't let him off easily)

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Again, what a fool I was to believe in this jerk... I guess wanting to believe made it a lot easier... *sigh*

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 16, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

This is a tough situation for the shanallen regime.
I saw we gotta cut him.
He has lost all trade value, what team would want an individual like that lard-o????

Realisticly if we could get a third for him at this point I say do it

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | June 16, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 12:28 PM

Thanks for the updates.

Posted by: TWISI | June 16, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't sound like Shanahan had much leverage, other than to give him a lecture about commitment, etc.

However, I'm curious what happens if the Skins call his bluff and he holds out into the regular season... thus violating his side of the contract. I believe the roster bonus could be viewed as a signing bonus and be subject to repayment.

All I know is that if you can't come to work for $21 mil, you have some serious issues.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | June 16, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

If this had happened to Zorn, we'd be hearing how this is another example of him losing control of his team.

Shanahan has taken over a troubled, dysfunctional team.

I actually kinda miss Martyball, dude was all about discipline. That's exactly what this team needs now.

Posted by: Alan4 | June 16, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I just hope all the venting and hysteria among the fan base (including me) isn't indicative of how the team will respond... if the front office lets emotion (or, God forbid, the owner) get involved to any extent, that could prevent them from making the best football decision here.

Gotta squeeze even a tiny bit of lemonade out of the gigantic lemon that is Albert Haynesworth. I trust Shanahan and Allen will take their time and do something smart here, not something knee-jerk and irrational.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 16, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

twisi

"Albert played Shanahan lovely. Straight lied to his face to get his coin."


The act alone is a red flag that would cause any team that would trade for him to question if he can be counted on to be professional.

To be honest, how can the team trade or operate professionally with a player whose word cannot be trusted?

His insulting lie for money move might be the lowest move any professional athlete has ever made.

Had AH been a serious person, he would've looked at the $21 million on March 31st, and said, "Naw, Mr. Snyder, keep your money, I want to move on."

"Release me if you can't trade me."

But he's not a serious person.

He obviously thought he'd get paid and traded for a small bag of chips and a Big Gulp.

Well, now the question is will the skins gulp and swallow the lost big money.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 16, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

ANy news on if Carlos Rogers was at Camp today? B/C today is not the day for him to be messing around, in dispute over his contract. But then agian, at least he has been there this offseason.

Posted by: roccoskins | June 16, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

re reggie white's idiotic comments about homosexuality: the man's just being true to the "good" (hahaha) book. there are numerous verses clearly stating how much god hates gays.

lev18:22, 20:13, rom1:26-27, 1cor6:9-10, 1tim1:9-10, jude1:7, and many others.

of course one could argue that reggie was a bit more tolerant of gays than god - reggie didn't actually advocate (out loud) killing them on the spot.

lev20:13:
"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."

again, just keepin' it real.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 16, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

The sad truth here is that it is very likely that Al is so out of shape that he physically could not attend the camp without being a huge embarrassment.

I truly believe that he has given up after banking over $30 million of Snyder's money.

I would bet anyone here that as of today, dude can't run a mile non-stop, weighs close to 400 lb and is planning on a crash course workout to get into bare minimum shape. His excuses about scheme and trust are just covering up the fact that he has let himself go because he has nothing left to play for. He has his boats, ATVs, cars, mansion, illegitimate kids etc. and he will now just fade away into obscurity. We need to take the 3rd or 4th rounder and move on.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | June 16, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

keep him on the bench until a 4 - 3 team loses a starting DT to injury, whenever that may be.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | June 16, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

back to AH:
he complains how he's not happy with the defensive scheme.... oh puleeze... he was pretty happy with it when he took the $21,000,000 earlier this year. at that point it was clear we were going with a 3-4, right?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 16, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

What I find curious is the fact that 92 and his agent have been shopping 92 to other teams and no news of this leaked out? Hmmm, didn’t know anyone could be that secretive. Or am I that blind and deaf?

Posted by: camp_fodder | June 16, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I think Haynesworth actually likes the feeling of power associated with this level of drama. To be able to manipulate other people and mess with the hopes and expectations of others like this is almost what you would say is like a personality disorder.
To all the idiots who supported this hideous f'ck, hang your heads in shame.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | June 16, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"Release me if you can't trade me."

Can someone tell me how much this POS would have made off of $nyder if he'd walked away from the $21 millon and been released? Also, wondering would the Redskins have been obliged in any way to release him if he'd been willing to give up his bonus?

Posted by: Pepper5 | June 16, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

hahahahaha....why is anyone surprised? Just like Danny suing fans and banning signs while delivering a lousy product...it ain't like Snyder is offering any refunds. Why should Albert? The skins made a lousy deal WHICH $nyder was an active part of and now their angry with him that he has not shown up - after this long? What part of not showing up to ANY voluntary activities give them the message that he was going to show up now? this righteous indignation by a very unrighteous organization smacks of stupidity in the organization itself.

I have been a skins fan my entire life, and am completely disgusted with the organization. Shanahan never won squat without Elway; Elway went to 3 SBs with not another player worth remembering on his teams, and without shanahan. I saw a previous post where someone questioned the intelligence of not adapting your initial system to match the personnel on hand and he got skewered for it.

He did not steal the money, it was GIVEN to him willingly by a fool. Does not make him a saint, or even a nice guy, but he is not a thief. If Shanahan believes that, then maybe he'll believe it will work when Danny calls down plays from the owners box to him. His comments make me think that his ego is far bigger than his intelligence and will clash soon enough with Danny's.

No sense on taking either side on this as they are all a bunch of ingrates. The only bigger fool than Snyder in all of this is those fools willing to pay for tickets (and parking and concessions) for this sorry excuse for a team. betcha they whip out the SB trophies at the next press conference.

Where have you gone Jason Taylor, I mean Bruce Smith, I mean Stubby...ahhh the list goes on and on.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | June 16, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Nate- Shanahallenahan strike me as "all business" dudes. I don't see them taking the emotional route with this, and I certainly don't see them setting the precedent of giving in to a player.
I fully expect Stompy McSloth to be on the roster come opening day, whether he's active/inactive/suspended at the time. Only way he's not here is if he gives back a whole bunch of millions.

Posted by: 4-12 | June 16, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

So really, the Skins have all the cards, and this clown is getting some bad chess advice.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | June 16, 2010 12:29 PM |
I don't see it that way at all. Albert at the very least made himself another 10-12 million or so (if he gives some money back) and he didn't have to work for it.

Think about this another way. Does Albert ever have to play football again? After this haul, he may never will.

Posted by: TWISI | June 16, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Or am I that blind and deaf?

Posted by: camp_fodder | June 16, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse
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Posted by: mattsoundworld | June 16, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

How dare the Redskins expect Fat Albert to work after giving him 32 million dollars with another 9 million guaranteed..hmph..the nerve of those guys.

Posted by: MadeRED | June 16, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"Does Albert ever have to play football again? After this haul, he may never will."

True.

And I'm presently eating crow and hanging my head in shame for suggesting we just "Leave Albert Be".

Thing is, it looks like we'll have to leave Albert be.

Only in terms we didn't think we'd have to.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 16, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Lost in the AH hoopla is that Harvey Unga is entering the supplemental draft.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/16/harvey-unga-heads-to-the-supplemental-draft/

I liked him a bunch as a late round sleeper pick if he had entered the 2010 draft. Hard runner, good out of the back field. Has some injury concerns. He migh be worth a 5th or 6th round bid in this supplemental draft.

Now back to AH postings

Posted by: TWISI | June 16, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

lev20:13:
"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."

again, just keepin' it real.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch |

Keepin' it real? Hardly. Here's some more Leviticus (And others) for you and Reggie...

DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21 
If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.

DEUTERONOMY 22:22 
If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.

MARK 10:1-12 
Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced.

LEVITICUS 18:19
 The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.

MARK 12:18-27
If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.

DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12 
If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.

Posted by: TheCork | June 16, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Nice... we're supposed to be directing our hate at Haynesworth, but instead we get to read about how Reggie White wasn't all that good of a human being...

Again, nice.

Anyway... Shanahan said this: "Am I disappointed that he's not here, yes, yes, I am," he said. "Because I thought when he did take that check, he was going to make a commitment to be a Washington Redskin and do the best thing he could possibly do to help our team win."

Just summed of the sentiment of about 90% of the fans. Soon the anger will subside and will turn into disappointment while leaving fans with: "What could have been?"

This whole situation isn't good for several reasons.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 16, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Skins look pretty stupid to dangle his dingleberry past April Fools Day, then...unless...GREAT YURI GAGARIN, I've got it!! It's a planned psyop for the upcoming CBA -ocalypse!!! He'll be Exhibit A about how greedy and over-the-top arrogant the players have become when it comes to contracts...Now, the world's gonna end in 2012 anyway, but we want the groundwork laid for the new Robo-NFL , when the New Washington RoboNigs play the New Fox Philadelphia Scrapheaps in 2046..The early squirrel catches the first worm , so they say...

Posted by: frak | June 16, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

BlkSportsOnline
.I am hearing the Redskins just may cut there losses and literally just cut Haynesworth
2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

(4th's note - I heavuly doubt it)

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know the structure of the remaining money left on the deal with AH? What exactly would he be walking away from if he does not show up to play ever again? I believe the biggest chunk of guaranteed money is already in his coffers. Any cap hit related to releasing him would take place this year - if they don't they count his salary and prorated bonuses until the year he is cut. I don't see great leverage on the Skins part either.

What trade clauses are in his contract? I am sure they are entirely in his favor given the relative stupidity of what we have seen related to signing him.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | June 16, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

no way they cut him unless he cuts them a 21,000,000 check first....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

This is a tough situation for the shanallen regime.
I saw we gotta cut him.
He has lost all trade value, what team would want an individual like that lard-o????

Realisticly if we could get a third for him at this point I say do it

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | June 16, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Nah, don't cut him. Thats what he wants... the money AND a release.

Let him fester. Fine him. IF he does come in, make him prove he is willing and ready to go. If not, bench him, until he is willing to play team ball, that is the only way to get him in line so he can get what he wants (go be a stud somewhere else with free reign) and the Redskins get something of value for him.

The costs are sunk already... and if AH truly wants to be one of the greatest DT/DE of all time, then he will know he has to submit and start ballin'.

And some other team will think they can "get to him" and he can help their club. You know, kinda like the vinster used to do here. Maybe his old coach in Detroit? JJ could get in his ear, LOL.

I predict bankruptcy. Amazing yet true, there is a small population of once formerly wealthy athletes who have frittered and fumbled away what you and I would consider fortunes once the gravy stops pouring onto the plate. AH has surely not displayed any business sense in the way he has handled his "unrest" over getting 41 large and now having to play several Dline positions.

I wonder how much, if any, of this is because he is out of shape and doesn't want to come in after making such a deal about his own work out routine? People do weird stuff that makes no sense once they get on the wrong track and then can't see a way out. Maybe BA, or an emissary, need to reach out in a very very very quiet manner and discover if there is some issue like that that has caused both sides to get painted into a corner. The "i cant beeyotch out" factor may be playing a large part of this. Just speculating. Most likely is that he is just a low rent mofo who took the cabbage and now doesn't want to do what he don't want to do.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | June 16, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Send him to Tennessee for a conditional pick. The more he plays the higher the pick.

Anything. Cut the losses ASAP.

Don't need to keep him to "punish" him. The players don't want him and it'd be unfair to them, I think, to appear that you're directing a message at them by punishing AH.

Fletcher et al.: "I'm insulted! You don't need to send me a message because of this jerk AH! Get his ass out of here!"

Posted by: SteveMG | June 16, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Didn't attend bible study this past Sunday and haven't in about 15 years. So, thank you, no...

On another note:


If me and another bama was wreckin' and my gf/wife grabbed his nuts, then yeah, I might be a little mad.


I'd be like 'Damn, you couldn't kick the n@#%* in his head? What ya grabbin his nuts fo'?


But thats just me.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 16, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

CindyBoren‎: #Redskins 7/29, as expected. RT @gregaiello: RT @nfllabor: Complete list of #NFL training camp dates & locations: tinyurl.com/2e3kkvq

http://nfllabor.com/2010/06/16/training-camp-dates-and-locations/

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I bet Bruce Allen (and Eric Shaffer) are looking at his contract right now to see if he has violated the terms....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Well, there's the foundation for a lawsuit being set. They had a verbal contract that if Haynesworth got the money he would come to work and do what was needed to help the team. Haynesworth broke the verbal contract. The threat of a lawsuit is a major bargaining chip for the Redskins.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | June 16, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

He and the equally inept Jason Campbell helped turn the Skins from an 8-8 team into a pathetic 4-12 team last year.

Got rid of JC, now it's time to get rid of the other dead wood on the team and start fresh with new players.

Posted by: dc1020008 | June 16, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

'Washington RoboNigs'


I'm sure there's a lot of fun to be had in deciding what the logo would be.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 16, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Red, the Reggie White stuff started a while back, when somebody compared Albert Haynesworth to Reggie.

I couldn't pass up an opportunity -- among all the deserved praise for Reggie as a great, great player -- to remind everyone that off the field he was a very proud bigot.

But yeah, back to Albert and everything...

F Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 16, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Snyder still has that TV he bought for Coles?

Posted by: mack1 | June 16, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Just summed of the sentiment of about 90% of the fans. Soon the anger will subside and will turn into disappointment while leaving fans with: "What could have been?"

This whole situation isn't good for several reasons.

Posted by: RedDMV

I don't see the anger going away after a burn like this. Fat Al was evasive and manipulative to the team, players, and fans. He took money which was clearly stated as an act of commitment to the team but didn't let-on til now that he never intended to play here. The skins staff was obviously planning on him being here; Allen said within the last week that AH would be here. What's worse, is he is trying to spin this sh't as a betrayal by the Redskins, he signed a contract knowing that things change and he might not always get his way at every moment.
AH, I have said it for months,is a complete scumbag...this public humiliation makes the Sean Gilbert fiasco look like a day in the park by comparison. I many of us will promise ourselves that we will spread as much AH hate as we possibly can.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | June 16, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The only obvious answer to this dilemma. Let him rot on the bench, kiss all his NFL kudos and any HOF aspirations goodbye 4-ever. He probably won't care, nor will we. Fortunately we now have Bruce Allen in charge, as in no more Albert mistakes, no more Adam Archuleta types, Brandon Lloyd, etc. FU Vinnie, FU now and 4-ever, put us through hell you self-righteous IDIOT of all time.

Posted by: michaelstarr | June 16, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse


The sad truth here is that it is very likely that Al is so out of shape that he physically could not attend the camp without being a huge embarrassment.

I truly believe that he has given up after banking over $30 million of Snyder's money.

I would bet anyone here that as of today, dude can't run a mile non-stop, weighs close to 400 lb and is planning on a crash course workout to get into bare minimum shape. His excuses about scheme and trust are just covering up the fact that he has let himself go because he has nothing left to play for. He has his boats, ATVs, cars, mansion, illegitimate kids etc. and he will now just fade away into obscurity. We need to take the 3rd or 4th rounder and move on.


Posted by: WaitingGuilty | June 16, 2010
________________________________________

...and his mounting debts past the age of 35 will catch up to him at which time he will file for bankruptcy and die of a heart attack.

Posted by: dc1020008 | June 16, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Hugelimpdiction,

you are the biggest dope i've think i've ever read at this post. you are far too stupid to be a redskins fan; you should root for the cowboys or some other team.

to say he didn't steal money shows your ignorance....dude had a chance to walk away if he didn't like the scheme (and the scheme was no surprise, he knew about it well before he got the check)but he cashed the check and now wants to be traded??

this has nothing to do with whether or not the coach has won a super bowl without elway (?); you might be the biggest idiot walking.

he was NOT given the money; he entered into a big boy contract, took the money for future services rendered and now wants to back out.

Please go root for another team you freaking bone smuggler. You are an ass clown and a f*#k tard.

Posted by: DEskinzfan | June 16, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Once again stupidity by Shanahan that if a player took a check from the Redskins they would want to be a redskin? do a little research before you speak you little washed up leprechaun! Since danny boy bought the team being a Redskin = Payday and that's it!

I only hope Flacco lights it up this year and Zorny Gets a superbowl ring with the Ravens! Eff Snyder and the Skins. Spend your money on a winner who lets you tailgate or enjoy numerous restaurants and bars before entering a great stadium where your treated like a real fan without having to spend 2K!

Go Ravens!

Posted by: jdb70 | June 16, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"'Washington RoboNigs'


I'm sure there's a lot of fun to be had in deciding what the logo would be.

Posted by: RedDMV"


Meant in deepest , Budweiser-addled sarcasm, Big Red..

Posted by: frak | June 16, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

If this had happened to Zorn, we'd be hearing how this is another example of him losing control of his team.

Shanahan has taken over a troubled, dysfunctional team.

I actually kinda miss Martyball, dude was all about discipline. That's exactly what this team needs now.

Posted by: Alan4 | June 16, 2010 12:40 PM
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I don't think Marty and Mike are so far away when it comes to discipline. AH's contract was huge already and when they wanted him to commit to the team before getting his bonus, they took him at his word. I think this can be construed as a verbal contract. Maybe there was even a paper signed before he got the bonus money. The fact that Shanahan is making this - something that is publicly embarassing for the team - available to the media suggests that this is a point they contend to use as leverage - maybe even in a lawsuit.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | June 16, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't see it that way at all. Albert at the very least made himself another 10-12 million or so (if he gives some money back) and he didn't have to work for it.

Think about this another way. Does Albert ever have to play football again? After this haul, he may never will.

Posted by: TWISI | June 16, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse
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That's true, but understand that the Brain Trust made the contract with the $21 mil roster bonus in there. He was going to get that money from day 1 as long as he didn't kill anyone.

On the flip side, that means that Fatbert signed on the dotted line that he was going to be a Redskin for $48 mil/4 years.

So... by all accounts, 3 years $16 mil is a good deal for some beefcake (earlier I misspoke and said $3mil/year). So why should the Redskins now bargain out of a winning position?

Haynesworth, on the other hand, has to be careful, because if he defaults on the $16/3, he calls, he calls into question the $32/1.

Good link, btw
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-haynesworthdebacle041610

Posted by: mattsoundworld | June 16, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21 
If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.

DEUTERONOMY 22:22 
If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.

MARK 10:1-12 
Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced.

LEVITICUS 18:19
 The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.

MARK 12:18-27
If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.

DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12 
If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.


Posted by: TheCork | June 16, 2010 1:01 PM |

The problem with both of your arguments Cork and Walter is that you are using old Testament law, which was a product of the times and culture, to back up your argument while Christian values were set forth later by Jesus and actually negated some of this old Testament law. Remember wheb people were going to stone the prostitute and Jesus told the townspeople "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?" Things changed.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | June 16, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

from PFT...

Shanahan says that Haynesworth "news could happen soon"

Posted by Mike Florio on June 16, 2010 12:32 PM ET

Veteran Redskins beat writer David Elfin reports that coach Mike Shanahan has indicated that "news could happen soon" regarding no-show defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth.

Elfin speculates that he wouldn't be shocked if the Redskins cut Haynesworth.

If that happens, the Redskins will have a much harder time recovering bonus money from Haynesworth. At this point, however, they may not care.

Elfin also notes that Haynesworth has been blasted not only by teammate London Fletcher, but also by Phillip Daniels and Casey Rabach.

If Haynesworth is cut, we hope that the fans of every other team will be prepared to get out the torches and pitchforks if their favorite team signs this guy.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Nate, RE: Reggie White -- True enough. I hear that.

MMayo, I've been on record as saying that the Redskins should start a propaganda spreading campaign against him. Air all his business and spread lies, but believable lies about him.


Blackball his ass league wide. But seeing how dude Haynesworth goes about his, I'm almost sure it's done in many circles already.


What a waste of time, money, and whatever else. Fat sorry bastard! Could've had a real top 5 defense with him here, oh well... what are ya gonna do???

Posted by: RedDMV | June 16, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't see why Skins fans are so upset with Haynesworthless...it's not like he's taking YOUR money and running with it...he's taking THE DANNY's money and running with it.

Poetic justice, don't you think?

Posted by: dc1020008 | June 16, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Albert had Deion Sanders advising him, almost a carbon copy of what he did to the skins in the early 2000s.

Posted by: Ratzoe | June 16, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

man.. this is really annoys me.. fat albert is such a piece of crap.

Posted by: manitzdaman | June 16, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

"They had a verbal contract that if Haynesworth got the money he would come to work and do what was needed to help the team."

Actually, I bet any lawyer posting in here would say AH is well-insulated from a suit.

The NFLPA Collective Bargaining Agreement protects AH in ways we are not aware of.

And the fact is, Mr. Allen and Mr. Shanahan were both made aware of Haynesworth's intentions not to play for the redskins this year.

They should've cut him before April 1st if a suitable trade partner wasn't found.

Or: they should've lowered their demands after that date and taken the best trade offer made prior to that date.

They wanted high value in return for a player with no moral value and now are left holding an empty $21 million dollar bag.

The real question is why were they holding on to a player who they wanted gone while knowing he wanted to be gone, too?

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 16, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, except with the Mark passage Cork. I still believe that Jesus wouldn't approve but what do I know. Of course maybe I'm even way off base because I didn't go back and read all of the posts about this. I'll stay out of it now.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | June 16, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Just heard Schefter's piece on ESPN. There is sentiment out there that the Redskins could go after about 26 mil in money from Fat Al. They absolutely should go that route.

The only problem I see with that is that he would probably start showing up and just not performing. He would then be a cancer.

Posted by: srobert1117 | June 16, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

frak, ain't no thing.... was gonna list some myself, but that might offend someone...

Posted by: RedDMV | June 16, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Just do what they did to Riggins 30 years ago when he didn't show up. List him as "retired" and don't give him any more money.

Posted by: sean31 | June 16, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Blackballing the player "league wide" gets the Skins what, exactly, Red?

If he's toxic in this locker room and we don't see the team keeping him, and we want to get something in return when he goes bye-bye, why the hell would the team want to blackball him?

Again, I'm just trying to think about what's best for the Redskins as a football team moving forward, not what might feel best to us as righteously indignant fans...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 16, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Report: Redskins to pursue Haynesworth's $21 million
Posted by Mike Florio on June 16, 2010 1:28 PM ET
The Redskins have paid defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth $30 million dollars in less than 16 months. Now that Haynesworth has given the team the proverbial finger and refused to show up for a mandatory minicamp in the hopes of forcing a trade, the team plans to fight back.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the Redskins will try to recover the $21 million paid to Haynesworth as of April 1. Earlier today, coach Mike Shanahan indicated that the team was willing to cut Haynesworth before he received the money, and that Haynesworth was told that once he took the money, the team expected him to play whatever position the team asked him to play.

Per the report, the NFLPA "assured" Haynesworth before he decided to take a stand that he'd be able to keep his money. (We hope the NFLPA is current on its insurance premiums.) Another source tells Schefter that the relevant terms of the labor deal are "open to interpretation," and that the egregious nature of Haynesworth's actions could influence the outcome in the team's favor.

The case will turn on the language of the contract and the forfeiture provisions of the CBA, which currently limits teams to the recovery of signing bonus money after a holdout or retirement.

We're in the process of tracking down the contract so that we can analyze the issues and explain them -- even though only 17 or so of you will care about the details.

Posted by: TWISI | June 16, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I say we contact San Diego and see if they want AH for V. Jackson and M. McNeil...one could dream.

What a disappointment, not as much as finding out today that Direct TV says I have no line of site and cant get it, been with them for 11 years and will sorely miss my Sunday Ticket package. Verizon not down in this part of Charlotte and I absolutely hate Time Warner.

Posted by: mhartz1 | June 16, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Fine AH92 and make him inactive EVERY Sunday until he both pays back money and his agent gets us a 2nd for him.

NO GIVE.

We have him under contract for how many years - and we have paid the bulk of the money, right?

Don't play him, leave him inactive, until he is begging to pay back the money and to play again - no matter how long it takes. Once he is inactive we will all stop talking about him.

How dare AH92 try this. Fans are really tired of it - the combination of outlandish money combined with this bad behavior.

PS. NO T.O.

Posted by: artsnsportz | June 16, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

What a waste of time, money, and whatever else. Fat sorry bastard! Could've had a real top 5 defense with him here, oh well... what are ya gonna do???

Posted by: RedDMV | June 16, 2010 1:29 PM
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Too bad they couldn't put a "Big Al happens" mode into Madden. It would really make it true to life if they had players sitting out after $100m contracts, getting suspended for stomping other players' throats, and getting sued for knocking up strippers...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | June 16, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't see why Skins fans are so upset with Haynesworthless...it's not like he's taking YOUR money and running with it...he's taking THE DANNY's money and running with it.

Poetic justice, don't you think?

Posted by: dc1020008 | June 16, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse
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Ever given more than 2 milliseconds of thought as to where Snidleys money comes from? Don't hurt yourself, now.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | June 16, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

1117, I hope they do go after that much money, leave him broke......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I think if we get the 21 mil back from hayne, we should get Rocky a new contract. reward a player who is willing to work hard and wants to be part of the team. maybe los too, but Rocky deserves it more in my book.

Posted by: erleach | June 16, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't see why Skins fans are so upset with Haynesworthless...it's not like he's taking YOUR money and running with it...he's taking THE DANNY's money and running with it.

Poetic justice, don't you think?

Posted by: dc1020008

Ok, but in a way AH is also taking our ability to win away via his selfish behavior. You think the Dline is going to be any good this year with a last minute fix? No economic entity is an island: if you have done this unto he, the least of my franchise owners, you have done it unto me (ie higher ticket prices, etc).

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | June 16, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

The only problem I see with that is that he would probably start showing up and just not performing. He would then be a cancer.

Posted by: srobert1117 | June 16, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse
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At which point you suspend him, and go after the money anyway.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | June 16, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"There is still no public indication from AH about his alleged lack of desire to play in a 3-4, or even his lack of desire to play NT. His only quote is that he would play where the team wanted him. There's not clear indication that the Redskins even WANT him to play NT. There's no indication that AH is in any condition other than where he needs to be. There's no indication that AH is too far behind on learning his new position.
Nothing but guesses, rumors and innuendo. Nothing. And this constant drumbeat of "nothing" has whipped a group of mouthbreathers into a frenzy about his rumored attitude and condition. Should Albert be here for the team? Heck yes. Does the team forgive him if he is a dominating force on D? Also heck yes. But repeating an apparently agenda-driven rumor over and over doesn't make it more true. Honestly, a poll about what people think Albert's condition will be? From "Washington Post Editors"? Really? I really wish all would give it a rest until there is evidence of anything other than mere rumor.

Posted by: GoTeamGoTeamGooooooTeamYay | June 11, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"Do you think he'll show up because he said he would just miss the non-mandatory practices? What about the fact that by signing a contract to rediculous money, he basically gave his word that he would be ready and willing to do his best, be a leader, lead by example, and do what the coaches ask of him? ... He got a whole lot of money, that's one thing for sure.

Posted by: Gibbs4Pres | June 11, 2010 3:20 PM"

But that's just it: it doesn't matter what I think. It only matters what his teammates and coaches think, and it matters how he plays on the field. Everything else is just meaningless mental onanism. Yes, he is paid a lot. Would anything be different if he were paid less? How do we know he gave his word that he would lead by example, and how is this evidence that he is not doing his best? He said he would do what the coaches ask of him. As far as I know, they've not asked anything of him yet. As far as I know, he has not missed a mandatory meeting yet. At least wait for him not to show up before hanging him. Then I'll join in."

Posted by: GoTeamGoTeamGooooooTeamYay | June 11, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse


Okay, I am ready to join in. Dam rose-colored glasses are pinching my nose, anyway. Anyone have any crow gravy?

Posted by: GoTeamGoTeamGooooooTeamYay | June 16, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

One irony of this mess is if AH has been slacking and putting on weight, that would actually make him a better fit at nose tackle than as a DT in a 4-3 defense.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | June 16, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

You could not pay me twice the money he got to become such a pathetic excuse for a person. I feel sad for his parents, kids (the one's we know about at least), wife, and family because it reflects on them as well. It does not even make me angry because I know living a life like he does will only lead to hating yourself. Money only makes you happy so long. Most likely he will eat himself to death at an early age or get shot by some stripper. What a sad excuse for a person and what a waste of air he has become.

Posted by: Mike4169 | June 16, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

go get him Danny...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

If you can't get your money back, sit his fat a$$ on the bench, don't play him and keep him on the inactive list for each game. It's an uncapped year, and you can write off the money (it's not my money!)

Posted by: 1of9000 | June 16, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Several folks have mentioned bankruptcy for Albert. Albert seems to have that knack for spending lots and creating big messes.

So here's the poll question I put out last night:

Who goes bankrupt first:

Albert
JaMarcus

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Release Haynesworth now and I seriously doubt another team will sign him due to his selfish, unteam-like and unsportsman-like attitude. He is totally and absolutely worthless to the Redskins and as I have commented before unworthy of being a Redskin. He's actually an embarrassment to the team. I might be wrong about this but IMO he is in violation of his contract with holding out of mandatory practice.

Posted by: ladyredskins | June 16, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

z, albert, he seems to have a propensity for expensive boats.....

which if it were up to me, I'd pay someone to find that slip, and cut a hole in the hull....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I dont know what ya'll crying about is HIS money, is in the contract that " he wa to get a bonus on the 1st of April" so he already eraned it, so it is his to keep. If you were to elave the company you work for and they were to ask for your salary back will you give it back? NO! I dont think so, thank you. AH is doing whats best for HIM and his FAMILY AND his professional career...If you work as an IT and your boss ask you to work as a janitor will you do it, no way man bro!>?
So get off AH case let htme man be, he doesn't have to do what's only good in your eyes...you sorry sonofb!

Posted by: Incognito00 | June 16, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

And that he is not in shape...not even close....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

A circle is a shape. At least, that's what I keep telling myself.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | June 16, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I say we contact San Diego and see if they want AH for V. Jackson and M. McNeil...one could dream.


Posted by: mhartz1 | June 16, 2010 1:35 PM

Ehhh....They play 3-4 too dude....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Karma is a bit#h aint it.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 16, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Release Haynesworth now and I seriously doubt another team will sign him due to his selfish, unteam-like and unsportsman-like attitude. He is totally and absolutely worthless...
Posted by ladyredskins

I see ur point. AH is really, really talented though...it is sort of a deal with the fat devil, but someone will definitely sign him.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | June 16, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

"Shanahan never won squat without Elway" This again. Bill Walsh never won anything without Montana. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without LT. Don Shula didn't win anything with Marino, and it is pretty hard to question Shula's coaching credentials.

I don't think you can really criticise a coach for only winning Super Bowls when the have really good players on their teams. Joe Gibbs might be the only one who could win more than one Superbowl without a clear player advantage. Even that is a rather doubtful claim, as our Superbowl teams featured several Hall of Famers and one of the best offensive lines in the game.

Belichick got a lot of credit after the Patriots first win. Yet, most people now recognise that, whilst those teams were built around second tier free agents, they actually had a lot of very good players. Stumbling into the best (or second best) QB of this generation in the sixth round can't be ignored. Nor can the fact that his wins as a defensive co-ordinator came at the helm of one of the most talented defenses of the past 30-years. There is no doubt Belichick is a good coach, but he has also been fortunate in having a lot of very good players to work with.

Sure, Shanahan hasn't won squat without Elway. Then again, Elway didn't win anything without Shanahan. What they did is win 2-Superbowls together.

Let's see what Shanahan can do with McNabb before we start to rend our clothes and rub ashes through our hair.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | June 16, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

TheCork,
yuk, yuk, yuk. the "good book" is a pretty awful book, no? it wasn't my intention to highlight all the lowlights - just a few as they relate to homosexuality (not that there;s anything wrong with that....).

scamp,
i was gonna let it drop until you said,
"The problem with both of your arguments Cork and Walter is that you are using old Testament law..."

oh, no i'm not. check my references. MOST of those were NEW testament. jesus did not "negate" the anti-gay stuff.

i'll grant you that the new testament is "nicer" than the old in that jesus no longer advocates killing unbelievers on the spot - he just promises us eternal damnation in hell...nice....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 16, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

If he's toxic in this locker room and we don't see the team keeping him, and we want to get something in return when he goes bye-bye, why the hell would the team want to blackball him?

Again, I'm just trying to think about what's best for the Redskins as a football team moving forward, not what might feel best to us as righteously indignant fans...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 16, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Set him up, pressure him hard, and so attempt to get the money back = good for team. Send a message to the world that the days of easy $nyder cash and lackluster effort are over = good for team. Don't overestimate AH's impact in the locker room, this dude won't be distracting anyone by mid-August even if he shows up. I trust Shanny to completely neutralize him if he hasn't already neutered himself. I actually think AH's stance may motivate teammates.

Posted by: Pepper5 | June 16, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

People have calculated Albert's $$ per play, $$ per sack, etc. -- assuming he never lays for the Skins again.

fwiw, here's the calculation that matters. Danny sold roughly 900,000 tix to games in 2009 (includes preseason). Albert cost $32 million.

Meaning, of each game ticket, $35 went to Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

This guy's a low class pig. You take 21 million - to play football! - and you are still whining?! What a lowlife.

Posted by: Trout1 | June 16, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

They release him and Tennessee will grab him in a second.

Certainly the Raiders. He's a Raiders type.

Send him to Tennessee for a fourth.

And move on.

Or just cut him. But they can't let this linger on.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

beep...

and then beep...

and then beep yet again!

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

So riddle me this..........

If the Shanahan was willing to cut ties with Fat Albert in February, why didn't he do it?

Because..........Danny is still pulling the strings! Shanny took over the most dysfuncional team in the NFL and it's going to take time to straighten it out.

Posted by: Davo61 | June 16, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Karma is a bit#h aint it.

Posted by: dovelevine

It isn't karma for anyone. It is simply flawed management by snyder, and it is nothing like karma for Shanny; he just showed. Shanahan inherited this lump-of-pigsh't loser so doesn't have anything to live down.
To the retards who keep posting sh't like "Shanny never won without Elway," do everyone a favor a just shut-up. You have no idea apparently how mindless that comment is.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | June 16, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV,
i'm not hatin' on reggie white - i argued that he was just being true to the bible. if anything, i was hatin' on ancient concepts of morality. humans have come a long way since "biblical times" - that's why most of us ignore the unpleasant (i.e. immoral) parts of the bible.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I hope this serves as a Forever lasting reminder to Redskins Managemente on how NOT to contract players. They just threw loads of money at this guy without him even playing. It's better to have contracts by objectives....this one is going to be a chocker for those who signed him.

Posted by: Pedro01 | June 16, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

But on April 1, when we owed him a check for $21 million, we said, if you do take that check, we expect you to be the best defensive end, best nose tackle and if we played you at free safety, we'd expect you to be the best free safety -- even though he'd have to lose a little weight -- whatever position we wanted to play him at, that he'd do the best job he possibly could that would make him the best football player," Shanahan said.
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And Shanahan thought he'd do this if AH took the 21 mil??? Is Shanahan an idiot??? AH would have said anything to get the money.. doesn't mean he'd do any of it. Snyder Shanahan it's like the blind leading the blind....

Posted by: sovine08 | June 16, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

The April 1st bonus decision was the Redskins' not Albert's. What fool would turn down a $21 bonus?? Haynesworth told Shanny early on that he wasn't going to play in 3-4 defense. Shanny should have cut Haynesworth on March 31st and used that $21 million to get a real wr and o-lineman. Now Snyder is out of $21 million and the team still doesn't have a legit wr or o-lineman.

Posted by: coparker5 | June 16, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

AH said he wanted to go down as the greatest DL in history. Well that ain't EVER gonna happen, but he's definitely made his mark in NFL history.

His career is effectively over. If no one will even take a chance on TO just because of his mouth, why would any team risk taking a chance on this worthless human being? Man, his agent did him no favors. I hated (ok...still do) Deion Sanders for stealing $8 million from the Skins' salary cap and not playing, but this is truly thievery.

When professionals lie when signing contracts they don't live up to, it is considered illegal and, in some cases, comes with prison time (white collar criminals). How is this different? By accepting the $21 million on April 1st, he agreed to come to play and clearly didn't intend to live up to that. He's a criminal, plain and simple.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | June 16, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Blackballing the player "league wide" gets the Skins what, exactly, Red?


Posted by: NateinthePDX

Two things: 1) "blackballing" him sends a message to the rest of the league that it's a undeniably a new day over at Redskins Park. 2) Haynesworth doesn't have much value at this point, not to say that his contract in untradeable, but on the outside looking in, would you want to invest a penny into Haynesworth?


Every team the 'skins are probably willing to trade him to plays in a 3-4 so those teams won't even pick up the phone... who else plays in a 4-3? San Fran? Not with Singletary there... Maybe the Rams... I dunno, but if Haynesworth really feels "betrayed" by the Redskins, then the Redskins need to show him the true definition of betrayal and blackball his sorry ass.

Reject every trade offer that comes their way unless a team is giving up like 2 firsts, a 1st and 2nd... or any scenario that the 'skins would gain 2-3 more picks in the first two rounds -- and one would have to be in the first or second...

Make him give back 80% (roughly 17 million) of the 21 million he STOLE. And the fat fu_k doesn't even deserve the 4 million he's KEEPING...


Or they can just ignore him by not contacting him at all. When he calls press the 'ignore' button on his ass, or set it to when his number pops up it rings silently.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 16, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Gluttony is one of the 7 sins...He's sinned TWICE

New theme song: (sung to Al Bundy's Psyco Dad)

Who's that lumbering down the street
Eating at every open Bakery
Who's that holding up the buffet line
Taking a whole tray of pancake dimes
Who's that dipping those turkey wings
Wiping that gravy off on his sleeeeve

Big fat Al, BigfatAl, BigfatAlllllll

Posted by: kahlua87 | June 16, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

how much is it going to cost us to just release him?

because if it's not much money, the redskins don't owe haynesworth the favour of facilitating a trade for him. who's gonna want to sign this tool, anyways?

Posted by: j762 | June 16, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

how much is it going to cost us to just release him?

because if it's not much money, the redskins don't owe haynesworth the favour of facilitating a trade for him. who's gonna want to sign this tool, anyways?

Posted by: j762 | June 16, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I still think you just put him on a shelf for the rest of his contract and fine him for every day he's not participating. I think you just force the issue with him, fine him forever, sue him for breach of contract, and basically just let your lawyers deal with him and let the team move on. Can you sue a guy for being a fat load?

Posted by: AsstGM | June 16, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth = Douchbag

Posted by: COskins | June 16, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Everyone keeps saying, "he stole Snyder's money"...essentially he stole OUR MONEY. That is money we give to Snyder fund the team. Pay attention people, this load just took our money. Cheers.

Posted by: Finn_McCool | June 16, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

What picks do we have next year?????

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Harvey Unga heads to the supplemental draft
Posted by Mike Florio on June 16, 2010 11:22 AM ET
With the folks at Brigham Young giving the team's all-time leading rusher the boot due to allegations of premarital sex, the team's all-time leading rusher will be opting instead for the NFL.

A league source tells us that Harvey Unga will enter the July supplemental draft. He has generated 3,455 yards on the ground at the college level, averaging 4.9 yards per carry.

The supplemental draft unfolds like a silent auction, with teams submitting at the start of each "round" the name of any player they'd like to select. Priority is pre-determined based on 2009 records. Any team that obtains a player via the supplemental draft sacrifices the corresponding draft pick from the following year's entry draft.

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

If the Skinz learn nothing from this debacle - and it is highly dubious they will - then the future of the organisation is very bleak.

Posted by: ennepe68 | June 16, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I hear what everyone is saying, but let's also look at it this way. You apply for a job based on your training. When you get to that job, do they have the right to put you in another position. Bottome line. He does not want to be a nose tackle. That is not his position. And he is unhappy with the either you play that position or else mentality. If the Skins wanted/needed a nose tackle, they should of drafted one.

Posted by: ElCaballeroBueno | June 16, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Fine him $21 million for not showing up and then cut him.

Posted by: S4G3 | June 16, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"It doesn't sound like Shanahan had much leverage, other than to give him a lecture about commitment, etc."

Well actually, Fatty is in default at this point. He's in breach of contract.

I wouldn't put it past Snydly to consider legal action and he would have every right to do so....ok just saw an above post saying he will do so.

"Release Haynesworth now and I seriously doubt another team will sign him due to his selfish, unteam-like and unsportsman-like attitude."

Sure someone would. People always think "Just becasue he was that way there doesn't mean he wouldn't be that way here."

And then they would find out they were wrong when it is too late. Perfect example: T.O.

"I don't see why Skins fans are so upset with Haynesworthless...it's not like he's taking YOUR money and running with it...he's taking THE DANNY's money and running with it."

I'm a Redskins fan and have been all of my life, and no matter what I will continue to be one. What he does to the organization is like slapping me in the face as well and I don't appreciate it.

This is one time I hope Danny Boy sticks it to a player and good.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 16, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth's lawyer/contract negotiator did one hell of a job in securing almost $30 million in guaranteed funds. Perhaps the Redskins should concentrate on the team's contracts negotiating staff, opting to hire Haynesworth's choice and to fire those who are currently employed. Maybe then the Redskins might be able to recoup what they've foolishly spent.

Posted by: clardwa | June 16, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Best thing to do to this over-rated, greedy, lazy, ego-centric, fat slob is DONT trade him and DONT play him but DO keep him on the bench sweating ALL SEASON LONG.

Posted by: topwriter | June 16, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

pretty sure we can just bench him without paying him for lack of whatever it was....the same reason the T.O. got benched without being paid.

Posted by: padre123 | June 16, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Get that money back! If he don't want to play...make him run forever on a track. If he doesn't do what he is told to do I am sure they could fire him for not upholding his contractual agreements. Then for sure they could collect. Don't let that a$$h@le get away with anything.

Posted by: DIMMY | June 16, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

If your purpose is to clog the line and let the backs and safeties make the play then you're only going to be appreciated by coaches and football fanatics. If your purpose is blow up the backfield then you've got a name and potentially a lot more money (think Julius Peppers vs whomever the DE's are in Pittsburghs 3-4).

This is what AH is all about. He knows it, his agent knows it, and the Redskins damn well should have known it. The fact that they didn't, or maybe really didn't care, doesn't bode well for this team.

Posted by: elkiii_2008 | June 16, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

walter-in-fallschurch

What does the bible say about sex out of wedlock, stealing, lying, cheating on our spouses and some of the other sins that we seem to feel we can hand pick the order of severeness? He pretty much says the same thing about all sins. He also forgives us for them. Not just the ones we think are forgivable but all of them. Cant have it both ways, sin is sin and forgiveness from God is forgiveness for all and all of their sins. So if homosexuality is a sin its no worse than cheating on your wife, fornicating before marriage or using drugs. You cant change Gods word to punish one sin more than another.

Posted by: ged0386 | June 16, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Make him play or make him pay back the money. Simple as that. No trade unless you give back the money. You cant have both. If you dont plan on giving back the money you better plan on playing football for the redskins because you will be on that field. If you come in not in shape thats on you but you will work for that money. You will just be making yourself look bad.

Posted by: ged0386 | June 16, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Gee whiz, sure couldn't see this coming. Actually, most people did see it coming, and saw it coming way before the Redskins signed him to that ridiculous contract. Too bad for Washington that its front office (i.e., its owner) was one of the few that ignored all evidence and sanity. Oh well, just goes to show you how many hundreds of millions of dollars are availbable to be disposed of as seen fit in the NFL. Go and prosper, Mr. Haynesworth.

Posted by: ShovelPlease | June 16, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Sure, Shanahan hasn't won squat without Elway. Then again, Elway didn't win anything without Shanahan. What they did is win 2-Superbowls together.

Let's see what Shanahan can do with McNabb before we start to rend our clothes and rub ashes through our hair.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | June 16, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

WNL -
I agree with your handle and the need for linemen. I disagree with your statement above. John Elway led the Denver Broncos to 3 Superbowls under Dan Reeves and some of the most stirring playoff game wins in the 1980s. Mecklenberg was the only other player of note from those teams. I am sure no one else from those teams is in the HOF. Sure they lost all three games, kinda like McNabb has lost that one SB and a few NFC champ games. Maybe lightning in a bottle can be re-created. My thinking is squarely of the camp that it probably won't and that Shanahan was a similar signing to AH - huge contract with a ton of hoopla.

I wish the best for the Skins, but I no longer will drink kool-aid and have the outlook that things are getting better until they do. And I will engage in gallows humor about the team. They have been every bit as painful to root for as my Orioles and I am not hopping on the Nats bandwagon.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | June 16, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Hugelimpdiction,

you are the biggest dope i've think i've ever read at this post. you are far too stupid to be a redskins fan; you should root for the cowboys or some other team.

>>nice to meet you too. Nope. Sorry. Skins fan all of my life.

to say he didn't steal money shows your ignorance....dude had a chance to walk away if he didn't like the scheme (and the scheme was no surprise, he knew about it well before he got the check)but he cashed the check and now wants to be traded??

>>all he had to do to earn the bonus was NOT leave the team prior to the check being cut. Would you leave a job when you have a huge bonus coming to you? Might you leave a few weeks after the check clears? The skins management should have and could have protected the team much more easily. If the contract stipulated that the bonus had to be repaid if he left the team prior to the following season, he'd be in camp. It didn't. Do you think his agent did not explain to him that he would clear $30M for one season's worth of play?

this has nothing to do with whether or not the coach has won a super bowl without elway (?); you might be the biggest idiot walking.

>>yes it does. The team got suckered and ignored the signs up until NOW. He has not won anything without Elway (ok, one playoff game in 8 years). thats a fact. His statements in hte article prove he is no genius.

he was NOT given the money; he entered into a big boy contract, took the money for future services rendered and now wants to back out.

>> he rendered the services he needed to to earn the money. He played for a year and did not quit until after the key date. Not my fault that he took advantage of a situation.

Please go root for another team you freaking bone smuggler. You are an ass clown and a f*#k tard.

>>news to me on all counts. But I'll keep rooting for the skins. my expectations are low for the near future because they have done the bare minimum to bolster the offensive line and seem to stay enamored of former stars far beyond their primes.

Posted by: DEskinzfan | June 16, 2010 1:24 PM

>>have a great day DEskinzfan. Sorry you can't see the humor in this situation.

Warm Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | June 16, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Give me $21 million and 6 months and I'll be in the best damned shape ever!!

Posted by: vmidurk | June 16, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan/Allen/Snyder were complete fools to hand over the $21 mil on April Fools Day (at least the day was fitting). Fat Albert knew, if he could just get them to hand it over, he'd be in strippers and Quarter Pounders for the rest of his days. He never intended to play a minute of football again, in a 4-3 or a 3-4 or an ally-ally-in-come-free. Shanahan shoulda cut Fat Albert's -$$ on 3/31 and kept the money. The Redskins were such idiots, I don't even blame FA. Like taking candy from a baby.

Posted by: Dan4 | June 16, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

*uck that bama but get sum of our bucks back

Posted by: yepthatshim11mosley | June 16, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

My problem is that any player knows that situations change - especially with head coaches. If he thought Zorn was going to stay there he really is a legitimate num-num. I pray that inactivate the slug and he may be on the biggest loser next year....

Posted by: caddy75 | June 16, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

i guess when you're a billionaire, a few hundres mil doesn't count for much. mr synder has run his team as he has seen fit. as a fan you just hate it. all the business majors are out there are scratching their heads. is this anyway to run a business? well it's a different sort of business, not based on the typical business model. mr. synder must have a keen business sense because he's a billionaire. a terrible understanding of the business of sport ownership. after ten years of ownership, and countless errors of player aquistition, hundreds of millions just given away, one can only hope that in financing haynesworth's retirement party mr. synder has figured out the fact that he doesn't know WTF he's doing.....step aside mr. synder.

Posted by: joerutgens72 | June 16, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Redskins will get rid of this worthless sack of s@*it. And win the superbowl.

Posted by: kellyhutch7 | June 16, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Golden opportunity to make sure this never happens again to us or any other team. We have him under contract for the next six years. He never sees the field again. Pay him or not, but by the time he is out from under the contract, he's 35 and a forgotten man. Just make him disappear. That would let any other players know in the future this crap won't fly.

Posted by: captnbill | June 16, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

1. Who made the decision to bring this moron here & pay him this outrageous salary? (We all know who.)

2.In 5 years this fat pig will be broke, in jail & on crack. His personality is that of a loser. He will revert to his base when all the money is gone.

3. Cut the idiot, eat the cash & force Dan Snyder to SELL THIS TEAM.

pretty simple, eh?

Posted by: james51 | June 16, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

What does the bible say about sex out of wedlock, stealing, lying, cheating on our spouses and some of the other sins that we seem to feel we can hand pick the order of severeness? He pretty much says the same thing about all sins. He also forgives us for them. Not just the ones we think are forgivable but all of them. Cant have it both ways, sin is sin and forgiveness from God is forgiveness for all and all of their sins. So if homosexuality is a sin its no worse than cheating on your wife, fornicating before marriage or using drugs. You cant change Gods word to punish one sin more than another.

Posted by: ged0386
.................

hi there, ged0386. 'preciate your thoughts.

(0. maybe the bible would make sense, or would be worth paying attention to any more than any other ancient religious document, if i thought it were true.)

1. don't you think murder is "more sinful" than breaking the sabbath? (according to the 10 commandments it's not, but yahweh/jesus/allah does show nuance in other areas.) yes, there are degrees, shades of gray, and some things are...relative.

2. on some points the bible is WRONG about what is sinful. (unless you circularly define sinful by what the bible says is sinful). it is one thing to say "murder" is sinful (correct), it's another to say "other gods" or "ignoring the sabbath" or "homosexuality" is sinful (incorrect).

3. those things that you listed (lying, stealing, cheating) are sinful because they hurt other people, not because the bible says they are...

4. god has no authority to "forgive me of my sins". if i steal ONLY the victim(s) can forgive me.

5. the best part of the bible is the "golden rule" (which predates the bible in oriental philosophy by 500 yrs).

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 16, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

This fat piece of sh*t is a low life that deserves to be in the grocery store bagging groceries.

Posted by: joeboggs | June 16, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

SO I DON'T CURSE, AH92 IS A LOSER THIEF!

Posted by: artsnsportz | June 16, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Do not cut him. The guy has anger management issues. Tell him that either he plays for the Redskins or he will not play anywhere in the NFL again. All you have to do is document that his behavior is detrimental to the team and you will be able to recover the bonus. Guaranteed the guy has a melt down and ends up giving back half his bonus.

I do think that the Redskins have grounds to get their money back and the last thing the NFLPA wants to do is have to defend this greedy ba$tard with the CBA on the table.

It is one thing to take money in good will do your best fail then get cut. This guy does not even try. For all his belly-aching about what he was promised, he should have got that put into his contract. Guy sucks, I hope the chick he shagged gets a fat settlment based on his earnings before he loses his bonus.

Posted by: m_p_holmes | June 17, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm a lifelong Oilers-Titans fan and was torn about him leaving TN a couple years ago. I did think he was asking for too much so thought the team made a good decision.

But now the truth is obvious. The Titans, I'm sure are thrilled this crybaby is someone else's problem. He's an embarrassment and the worst part of the NFL, this sense of entitlement. I'm just sorry he is now filthy rich.

Posted by: jasontomblin | June 17, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Oh, Walter. Yes, you: He who dwelleth in Falls Churcheth...

My favoriteth Bible verth ith the one that goeth...

LEVITICUS 16:17
 And whomever shall land from his ill-fated leapeth upon the bandwagon of the cattle laborers of Dallath Texath shall be forever secretly loathed by the resteth of the city and her thurrounding environsth. Ethpecially on Thundays and occasionally Monday nighths.

That joint is for real, for real. It's the wordeth of God, yall, so, watch out.

I'm only trying to thave your thoul.

Posted by: Thinker_ | June 17, 2010 3:57 AM | Report abuse

And like I keep saying, put Fat Albert's fat ass on the practice squad for the next 3 years. F him. No big deal.

Posted by: Thinker_ | June 17, 2010 3:59 AM | Report abuse

F him.

Posted by: Thinker_ | June 17, 2010 4:03 AM | Report abuse

thinker,
thufferin' thuccotash! ith your name really "thinker", or ith it "sinker", and you just can't pronounth it?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 17, 2010 7:14 AM | Report abuse

One good use for AH. Take his lard A$$ out into the gulf and stuff his 400 lb. A$$ into the oil pipe!!!

Posted by: wvupete | June 17, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Redskins: You made promises to AH that are opposition to your new coaching scheme. You guaranteed those promises with the payments.
Its obvious to me AH is not going to bow down and worship at the altar of the Almighty 3-4 defense. Trade the guy and move on!

Posted by: whitaker200 | June 17, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Redskins: It appears that you made promises to AH that are in opposition to your new coaching scheme. You guaranteed those promises with the payments.
Its obvious to me AH is not going to bow down and worship at the altar of MS's Almighty 3-4 defense. Take the hit to pocket and pride. Trade the guy and move on, so that the team can focus on playing football.

Posted by: whitaker200 | June 17, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

whitaker200,
he didn't have to "bow down". AH HAD an out: he didn't have to take the $21,000,000 bonus. IF it's true that he was offered his release before he took the $21,000,000, and IF it's true that shanny said, "if you take this $21,000,000 we expect you to be the best NT/DE in the league", well, then his "complaints" about how he's being used are totally bogus.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 17, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

seems if the 'skins will go after folks for not honoring season ticket purchases they'd be all over fat boy to get the bonus money back...

Posted by: shabbyreader | June 17, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it's me, but why can't the Redskins sue to get the money back? He took the money AND he says he doesn't want to play in Washington? Isn't that theft?

Posted by: jiji1 | June 17, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

waitingguy stated:
The sad truth here is that it is very likely that Al is so out of shape that he physically could not attend the camp without being a huge embarrassment.

I truly believe that he has given up after banking over $30 million of Snyder's money.

I would bet anyone here that as of today, dude can't run a mile non-stop, weighs close to 400 lb and is planning on a crash course workout to get into bare minimum shape. His excuses about scheme and trust are just covering up the fact that he has let himself go because he has nothing left to play for. He has his boats, ATVs, cars, mansion, illegitimate kids etc. and he will now just fade away into obscurity. We need to take the 3rd or 4th rounder and move on.

___________________________________________

He is in shape go to google and you will see several videos of Haynesworth working out with his personal trainer at the University of Tennesse in April and May of this year.

Posted by: impartial1 | June 17, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

My people have a word for what Haynesworthless is.

Posted by: johnt424 | June 17, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Albert Haynesworth the guy that while playing for Tennessee stomped a guy from the Cowboys in the head when he wasn't wearing his helmet? If so, this behavior shouldn't surprise non of us. He's a first class jerk and this latest stunt falls right in line with his character.

Not only is he bringing embarrassment to his family but also the NFLPA, the NFL, and anybody whose playing or ever played football. Way to go Haynesworth, you've worked hard to become the jackoff that you are.

If I was Snyder I'd release him and then sue him for the 21 million. I'd keep him in court for the next 5 years just to deplete his funds. Unbelievable.

Posted by: carterm1 | June 17, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"Isn't Albert Haynesworth the guy that while playing for Tennessee stomped a guy from the Cowboys in the head when he wasn't wearing his helmet?"
............

yes. that was albert....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 17, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins don't need a cancer on a 'new' forward thinking team. I think they should make him suit up for every game, make him play 1 or 2 plays each half and sit him the rest of the time. Every time he refuses to show up for a game fine him $1,000,000.
He's a bad influence and too many people, especially the press, are focused on his bad behavior and not spending enough time exalting the good that's happening at the mini-camps.

Posted by: MonsterFan47 | June 17, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

first, i don't know what all this bible talk is doing on here...there's definitely some on faith blog that you guys can take that to.

second, i think the 'skins have a better chance, legally, if they retain haynesworth at this point and file suit sometime soon. under the CBA, players are subject to forfeiture of bonuses that they did not earn (basically by holding out). so, in terms of recouping $21 mil, the 'skins should keep him on and hope he doesn't show up. OTOH, they might have a case on the strength of missing the 2 mandatory minicamp days (albeit a much weaker one)

Posted by: bacaje | June 17, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

OOOOHooooo a little diddy about Danny & Vinny two shmucks with too much money

Heading down south to buy a hero what'd they end up with was aaanother zero

Go on take the money and run

Posted by: dannyboyrules | June 17, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

OOOOHooooo a little diddy about Danny & Vinny two shmucks with too much money

Heading down south to buy a hero what'd they end up with was aaanother zero

Go on take the money and run

Posted by: dannyboyrules | June 17, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

OOOOHooooo a little diddy about Danny & Vinny two shmucks with too much money

Heading down south to buy a hero what'd they end up with was aaanother zero

Go on take the money and run

Posted by: dannyboyrules | June 17, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

OOOOHooooo a little diddy about Danny & Vinny two shmucks with too much money

Heading down south to buy a hero what'd they end up with was aaanother zero

Go on take the money and run

Posted by: dannyboyrules | June 17, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm just looking forward to the day that my Redskins get rid of 'Fat Albert' Haynesworth.

Posted by: mbonhamwolv | June 18, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

that's funny trade rumors....all it was...was ESPN looking to put a cabash on the McNabb trade..it was them that said Allen was trying to unload fat albert on Philly...and like plenty of stuff that appears here in this column ...it was never proved true

Posted by: terpsez11 | June 19, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

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