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Smith clarifies comment on new leaders, old friend

Former Redskins offensive coordinator Sherman Smith on Saturday clarified a recent comment he made about the organization's new leaders, saying he did not intend to be critical of previous head coach Jim Zorn.

In an interview Thursday, Smith, whom new Washington Coach Mike Shanahan did not retain, said he had hoped to remain on the staff "because I believe Mike and [new General Manager] Bruce Allen are going to do a great job together for the Redskins. I really think [owner] Dan Snyder has made some excellent choices in the people he picked to run the organization. The Redskins have a chance now. I believe that."

Judging by comments on the Insider, some Redskins observers perceived Smith's quote to be a shot at Zorn, who was fired Jan. 4. Even a member of Smith's family phoned him to talk about the quote, which prompted Smith to contact Zorn, one of his closest friends, to make sure Zorn was not similarly concerned.

"Jim understood what I was trying to say. I absolutely did not mean anything bad about Jim," Smith said in a phone interview. "In no way was I trying to say that with Jim Zorn as our head coach, it didn't give us a chance to win. That's not what I meant at all."

Smith, an NFL running back for nine seasons, and Zorn were rookie starters together with the expansion Seattle Seahawks in 1976. From 1995 through 2007, Smith coached running backs under Tennessee Titans Coach Jeff Fisher. Smith left Tennessee for Washington, in large part, for the opportunity to help his friend try to restore the Redskins to prominence, he said.

Although Zorn called plays during the 2008 season, Smith played a major role in the offense as the Redskins went 8-8. When Zorn was stripped of play-calling duties in October in favor of consultant Sherman Lewis, Smith's role was expanded to include calling plays in the running game. Washington went 4-12 this season.

"I came to Washington to work with Jim and to help the Redskins get back to that championship level, which was something I experienced with Tennessee," said Smith, who is under contract through the 2010 season. "It was disappointing that we couldn't accomplish everything we wanted to do as a staff, but we all worked hard and gave it everything we had.

"But Jim did a great job. He did everything he could have to help put us in the best possible position. Just the type of person Jim is, you know you're not going to get anything but his best every day. He's going to be an excellent head coach. I hope he gets another opportunity."

By Jason Reid  |  January 16, 2010; 6:12 PM ET
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No one cares about these people any more.

They all had their chance to shine, and failed.

Move on.

Let them trade phone so they can discuss their concerns in private.

I damn sure don't want to hear anything about what's going on with them.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 16, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Why does everything having to do with Jim Zorn have to sound like a baby seal is being clubbed? He's a good guy who didn't succeed at this level; he and Sherman Smith were friends then and are now. Go in peace, guys; thanks for giving it your best. Hope you have lots of success in your future.

Posted by: boothintexas | January 16, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Judging by comments on the Insider, some Redskins observers perceived Smith's quote to be a shot at Zorn, who was fired Jan. 4. Even a member of Smith's family phoned him to talk about the quote, which prompted Smith to contact Zorn, one of his closest friends, to make sure Zorn was not similarly concerned.

By Jason Reid | January 16, 2010; 6:12 PM ET

The hamsters of RI wield a mighty pen...

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Whichever of you guys said the rout was on was right. Damn. Go Ravens!

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Two thoughts on Reggie Bush

1. I really hate how he taunts the nearest defender, or struts when his about to score. Keep it professional.

2. He's making a compelling case for a RB such as Spiller being valued high in the draft.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the Cardinals punt coverage looked about as bad as our special teams units did the last few weeks of the season.
That was pathetic; not to mention the effort was even worse!!

"Turn out the lights the party's over"
Saints host the winner of Vikings and Cowboys.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I think NO may cover the over themselves..

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 16, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Cards LT Jeremy Bridges just got beat again by Wil Smith.

Don't forget Bridges was in the Skins 09 Camp and Coach Zorn or Vinny [not sure whom] cut him and he has started for the Cards this season.
I imagine Coach Shanahan would rather have Bridges than some of the guys he has...

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I think NO may cover the over themselves..

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 16, 2010 6:53 PM
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Hey Notorious, that was a pretty good line.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or does Greg Williams look like he has been eating to much gumbo down in New Orleans. He's starting to look a littlie like Andy Reid.

Posted by: wattsicon | January 16, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Why go for Spiller when the real thing may be available this off season? Reggie Bush will count big against the Saints' cap next season and may be cut. Obviously if he keeps this up they will find a way to keep him but I think he would be a good acquisition for the skins provided they dont pay him like Portis.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | January 16, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

"In no way was I trying to say that with Jim Zorn as our head coach, it didn't give us a chance to win. That's not what I meant at all."

Yeah! That's what I meant...

Posted by: edvar | January 16, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Two thoughts on Reggie Bush

1. I really hate how he taunts the nearest defender, or struts when his about to score. Keep it professional.

2. He's making a compelling case for a RB such as Spiller being valued high in the draft.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 6:50 PM

Agreed, although I think Spiller is a combo of Bush (return game) and Chris Johnson (every down back).

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

~Sigh~

Another blowout game.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 16, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

it's true! this is a joke

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 16, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

If you had the choice to be a franchise quarterback with a large birthmark on your face or have madcow... what would you choose?

Posted by: Dorf | January 16, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

As lopsided as this game is I love football. It will be gone soon, but here's SICWIDIT's views on sports.

FOOTBALL....is king...anytime you can watch another team from the kickoff to the gun is a beautiful thing

BASKETBALL...The last time I watched an NBA basketball game from beginning to end was the last time Jordan played

COLLEGE BASKETBALL...Love the tournament and the big time conference games, but I don't wanna see Maryland vs. Middle Wyoming Tech.

BASEBALL...Can't watch it...it's too slow...too much in/out of the batter's box

BOXING...love the Welter and Middleweights

TENNIS...I can watch a set or two...some of you may be too young to remember the glory days of Lendl, McEnroe, Connors, Borg, Navrotilova.

TRACK AND FIELD...Love it...except the 15,000 meter run

NASCAR...Don't see the joy in going around and around

HOCKEY...I'm getting into it...I like it...I wish I understood to rules.

HORSE RACING...It's ok

WNBA...Hate it...thought it would fold by now.

SOCCER...I like it...they have the best celebrations after the score!

CYCLING...Nahhhhhh

MMA...Everybody likes to see a good fight

Posted by: rickyroge | January 16, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I keep telling ya'll...

CJ SPILLER!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 16, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Why must we hear about Katrina every friggin time the Saints play. I'm sick of Katrina. With the billions of $$$ they got they could of rebuilt NYC. Looks like we'll get a belly full of it next week.

Posted by: msrent | January 16, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Trade back and get more picks.

Posted by: wattsicon | January 16, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Trade back and get more picks.

Posted by: wattsicon | January 16, 2010 7:19 PM |

Unless the rules have changed that would require a team willing to trade into the 4th pick, doesn't happen often.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 16, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Please, no more Vick/Bush talk. Both can be exciting a game or two, but I want a chance to go to the promised land once in a while.

Gadjet peeps are exciting to watch, but good defenses are able to keep them bottled up.

Just my 2cents worth.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 16, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Unless the rules have changed that would require a team willing to trade into the 4th pick, doesn't happen often.

Posted by: Flounder21

One can only hope my friend

Posted by: wattsicon | January 16, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Mark Brunell just got quite a bit of camera / face time on the sidelines.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

to msrent:

i lived in New Orleans until Katrina. i visit family and friends as often as i can. you simply are TOTALLY CLUELESS as to the profound impact this event had on ordinary citizens. even today, over 4 years later, there are still large swaths of the city that remain devastated. why ? there isnt money enough in the US Treasury to completely rebuild the city without taking money away from vital other programs for the rest of the nation. the cost of just fixing the water/sewerage system is 5 BILLION Dollars..

the reason the disaster happened in the first place is because of decades of neglect, delayed repairs, political corruption and the price louisiana has paid for the loss of rebuilding silt that, because of levees on the Mississippi River,
get deposited past the continental shelf into the deep Gulf.Subsidence happens..Wetlands are lost..Hurricanes happen.

but we get it.. you have heard enough about it.. better for you than for the citizens of New Orleans. Damn shame there is just so much ignorance around..

Posted by: shally | January 16, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Imagine if Brees goes down on the first play of the superbowl, and Brunell comes in and shreds the Jets' #1 defense, completely exposing Darrelle Revis, and stamps his ticket into the Hall of Fame.

Winged Unicorn!

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Ray, saw that, and I think it's going into wikipedia under the "sh!t eating grin" category.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Nothing against Zorn...he just took a job that was way over his head. Now the skins have a chance with proven coaching....

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | January 16, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Saints haven't done nothing yet... except cash a ticket to next week.

We knew what Sherm meant... Now that Vinny is gone... the team has a chance... we get it.

Posted by: tony325 | January 16, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Trade back and get more picks.

Posted by: wattsicon | January 16, 2010 7:19 PM |

Unless the rules have changed that would require a team willing to trade into the 4th pick, doesn't happen often.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 16, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Buffalo picked Aaron Maybin at #11 last year... there is a good chance that they will be equally stupid this year and give us the #9, a second and a fourth.

Seriously, they picked AAARON FRINING MAYBIN, LOLOLOLOOL. Morons.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 16, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Why go for Spiller when the real thing may be available this off season? Reggie Bush will count big against the Saints' cap next season and may be cut. Obviously if he keeps this up they will find a way to keep him but I think he would be a good acquisition for the skins provided they dont pay him like Portis.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | January 16, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse


There will be no cap next year. The question will be whether or not the 8 million he's due. My guess is they work something out with some guarantees on that 8 million spread out over time. If not, he ran like the USC days today and may have earned himself a nice payday if he keeps it up.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

On the CBS pregame earlier, JB was saying that Russ Grimm may interview for the Buffalo Bills HC slot now that the Cards season is officially over.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 16, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I've posted on here probably ten times since about game 13, that we should try w/ all of our might to trade back in this upcoming draft.

I sincerely hope the Skins can trade back to somewhere like 9-12. This would provide them a couple of other picks which they desperately need to begin rebuilding this team.

Could still draft a good OL at #9-12
HTTR

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

"Nothing against Zorn...he just took a job that was way over his head."

If you got hired as an assistant manager at Burger King and then they wanted to make you head manager... tell me you wouldn't take it!

Posted by: Dorf | January 16, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

If there's no rookie wage scale, teams won't be moving heaven and earth to move into the top 5. Unless someone other than the Skins has targeted Bradford or Jimmy C as the savior, the Skins will pick 4th for sure.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

"Nothing against Zorn...he just took a job that was way over his head."

If you got hired as an assistant manager at Burger King and then they wanted to make you head manager... tell me you wouldn't take it!

Posted by: Dorf | January 16, 2010 7:58 PM |

at least i wouldn't take on mgr/2 asst mgr/head flipper all at once. i would be smart enough to find assistants and let them do their job while i learned mine. he was hired to be the OC, it looked like he had 15 plays and a neat colored chart. after a few games, all DC's had our gameplan down pat. nice guy. ok i give you that. top qb coach. not so sure. OC way over his head. HC not a chance.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 16, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Shally;

Guess I struck a nerve there. You are ceretainly right about one thing corruption in government, before and after the hurricane. That and planning. Personally, I wouldn't build my home ten feet below sea level in a hurricane zone even if the levies were constructed yesterday. I will be in NO in a few weeks, and I will get a look at the devastation first hand. Perhaps we should be finishing the job there rather than sending money to Haiti?? $5 Bil is chump change compaired to the money this admin. is spending right now. Good luck to your family, hope it works out for them.

Posted by: msrent | January 16, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm certainly capable of being wrong about this, but if no one wants to jump up to # 4 I certainly don't want to draft one of the QBs.
I hope they have a great player at OL available.
DT Sugh will be long gone I imagine...

I still recall the 1981 draft how disappointed I was when we traded down from #9 to #20. I was a Senior in HS and thought why did we do that?

But during the 82 season I certainly wasn't questioning that great draft!!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

2010 Senior Bowl offensive linemen:

Black, Ciron OL 6-5 / 322 LSU
Brown, Charles OL 6-6 / 285 Southern Cal
Iupati, Mike OL 6-6 / 325 Idaho
Jerry, John OL 6-5 / 350 Ole Miss
Johnson, Mike OL 6-6 / 305 Alabama
Olsen, Eric OL 6-5 / 305 Notre Dame
Petrus, Mitch OL 6-4 / 315 Arkansas
Williams, Trent OL 6-6 / 318 Oklahoma
Young, Sam OL 6-8 / 320 Notre Dame

For those of you who keep shouting, "Draft Okung," there are other linemen prospects to be on the lookout for.

Shanny is already giving away the desire for long, athletic types, so perhaps any dude that's 6-5, 295-310 might be a redskin pick this April.

What I like about the Senior Bowl, is that its practices are replayed on the NFL Network.

This gives us weekend draft gurus a chance to see the top players go up against each other in various drills and game situations.

Last year, Antione Caldwell-c, Michael Oher-ot, Rey Maualga, Larry English-slb, Macho Harris-cb/s, impressed this viewer.

You may want Okung, and wind up with a guy in this game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 16, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I've watched Okung about a half dozen times over the past two seasons. He reminds a little of Samuels but meaner. He not a 335 pounder and appears to have good movement. It would start making me believe change is coming for the good if he was our top choice over a couple of Junior QB's.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I will be in NO in a few weeks, and I will get a look at the devastation first hand. Perhaps we should be finishing the job there rather than sending money to Haiti?? $5 Bil is chump change compaired to the money this admin. is spending right now. Good luck to your family, hope it works out for them.

Posted by: msrent | January 16, 2010 8:06 PM

It's always interesting to read what the people who don't think are thinking.

Posted by: mack1 | January 16, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

1/2 of New Orleans still looks like a nuclear bomb went off. Metaire, which is by their airport, is much better off than most areas.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

If there's no rookie wage scale, teams won't be moving heaven and earth to move into the top 5. Unless someone other than the Skins has targeted Bradford or Jimmy C as the savior, the Skins will pick 4th for sure.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse
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I wouldn't be too sure about that... What about those BIG DT's, if Suh or McCoy is there... gotta think somebody would be drooling to move up.

Posted by: tony325 | January 16, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Suh is number one and McCoy is 2. McCoy may actually be a better player than Suh in the pros. I don't see 330 lb NFL guards getting thrown around like that by a rookie next year. With that being said, they're off the board by 4 for sure. The Bucs need a DT in the worst way and there's no way the Rams are taking a junior QB at 1 with Spags as their coach.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Suh is number one and McCoy is 2. McCoy may actually be a better player than Suh in the pros. I don't see 330 lb NFL guards getting thrown around like that by a rookie next year. With that being said, they're off the board by 4 for sure. The Bucs need a DT in the worst way and there's no way the Rams are taking a junior QB at 1 with Spags as their coach.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse
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Never know what type of things can happen before the draft. Your probably right... unfortunately, there isn't a can't miss Franchise QB coming out that is worthy of pick #1.

Posted by: tony325 | January 16, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

2010 Senior Bowl offensive linemen:

Black, Ciron OL 6-5 / 322 LSU
Brown, Charles OL 6-6 / 285 Southern Cal
Iupati, Mike OL 6-6 / 325 Idaho
Jerry, John OL 6-5 / 350 Ole Miss
Johnson, Mike OL 6-6 / 305 Alabama
Olsen, Eric OL 6-5 / 305 Notre Dame
Petrus, Mitch OL 6-4 / 315 Arkansas
Williams, Trent OL 6-6 / 318 Oklahoma
Young, Sam OL 6-8 / 320 Notre Dame

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The guys I'll be watching in this group

Iupati, Mike OL 6-6 / 325 Idaho : How does he do against the bigger,more athletic DTs.


Petrus, Mitch OL 6-4 / 315 Arkansas: Former TE who is a good pass protector from what I've read. How will he do in the run game.

Brown, Charles OL 6-6 / 285 Southern Cal : Is he tough enough.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Shanny is already giving away the desire for long, athletic types, so perhaps any dude that's 6-5, 295-310 might be a redskin pick this April.

Brown, Charles OL 6-6 / 285 Southern Cal

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 16, 2010 8:12 PM

Well, they don't come much longer and leaner than this guy.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong, I would love to trade back. There are a lot of solid O line prospects this year. I just don't think its very realistic, that's all. Maybe Buffalo thinks the world of Bradford or Jimmy C. and is willing to give up their pick and a second? Maybe swap their 4th for our 5th to sweeten the deal? God knows they need a franchise QB and they think one of those guys is the real deal?

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Peyton Manning is looking like Typical Playoff Manning: ineffective.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 16, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

TWISI - Movin' the Chains fan?

Living in Tampa, gotta say that's the best football show out there. Don't get too much Skins talk, but its better than the crap spewed out here. They're still talking about firing Gruden! That's how outta touch Tampa fans are.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Peyton Manning is looking like Typical Playoff Manning: ineffective.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 16, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse


True that. 7-8 career postseason record. 1 Superbowl though...The game appears to speed up for him in the playoffs rather than slow down like it did for players like Elway, Montana and Brady.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

TWISI - Movin' the Chains fan?

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 9:00 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by this?

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Its a show on Sirius/XM with Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan on their NFL channel.

Guess Not...best show on the radio though.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Peyton Manning is looking like Typical Playoff Manning: ineffective.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 16, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse
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Baltimore defense has nothing to do with that.

Posted by: tony325 | January 16, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Its a show on Sirius/XM with Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan on their NFL channel.

Guess Not...best show on the radio though.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 9:09 PM

I'll start tuning into the show.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Despite the relative ineffectiveness, nice TD pass by Peyton.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 16, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Would be great if Peyton Ineffective Manning and Colts can score here at the end of the half
Holding on the Ravens!!!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Ravens are arguing there should only be 5 sec remaining and not 7

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Peyton Manning is looking like Typical Playoff Manning: ineffective.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake

? My answers of why some on here seem to have no clue are answered if given enough time.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 16, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Mock Draft Analysis Update - 140 drafts selected

#1 - Clausen 56%, Suh 41%, Bradford 2%, Berry 1%

#2 - Suh 52%, McCoy 24%, Okung 18%, Berry 4%

#3 - McCoy 45%, Berry 36%, Okung 6%, Suh 6%, Morgan 4%

#4 - Bradford 36%, Okung 23%, Clausen 14%, Berry 9%, McCoy 5%

#5 - Okung 39%, Berry 22%, Campbell 11%, Davis 6%, McClain 5%

For what its worth

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 16, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Another game over at halftime. Rottfrau!

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Colts have 127 total yards to the Ravens 9
in this second quarter.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Its a show on Sirius/XM with Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan on their NFL channel.

Guess Not...best show on the radio though.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 9:09 PM

Easily the best show on the radio...3-7 pm est on sirius 124.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Colts get benefit of doubt on everything... Come on, Ray was tryin' to make a play... What is he just supposed to give up the TD??

They needed to hold them to 3.

Posted by: tony325 | January 16, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

no offense meant to anyone, and i truly hope that you (msrent) have a wonderful time in NOLA..that is one thing you can still do to help. it is still easy to have a wonderful time, and the food and music is as great as ever. frankly, that is what is keeping the city going right now- tourism.

the airport is actually in Kenner, which is west of Metairie, but the other poster was correct in that most of the severe damage missed the suburban areas.

i would also question our national priorities
even though the people of Haiti truly need our help now. we have much "nation building" that should be going on at home, rather than around the globe.

way too complex for short blog answers, but the people of New Orleans have been betrayed by the corruption of their own elected leaders, the Federal government, their own laziness and stupidity (yes, some of it is their/our fault), and their stubborn refusal to live anywhere else other than a city that is below sea level. still, nobody tells the citizens of the Bay Area to live elsewhere because we all know it is only a matter of time before an earthquake occurs..

We all need to hang together. but i can tell you that for so many of us, Katrina is a wound that never heals..

Posted by: shally | January 16, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Flacco throws a good football, but he throws a terrible tantrum.

"Lookout guys, I'm about to drop my helmet really really hard".

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Cody "M Effing" Glenn making a play.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Colts get benefit of doubt on everything... Come on, Ray was tryin' to make a play... What is he just supposed to give up the TD??

++++++

AGREED! That was a terrible call. The NFL has got to let these guys play.

If there is concern about your receivers getting hurt, don't call a play that requires them to go across the middle deep. Otherwise, you take your lumps.

Posted by: edvar | January 16, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

to trade with Buffalo based on point value

we would send our 1st and 5th picks

we would get their 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks

They would really have to want someone bad at the #4 slot to make that trade

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 16, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Shally;
I think we are more in agreement than not. My office will be in Houston, but I have a satellite office under me not far from NO. So my wife and I will be spending many weekends there in the coming years, I predict. We love good food & drink and I can't think of many places better for that.

Posted by: msrent | January 16, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Cody Glenn, not a shining example of Vinny's talent evaluation, but an example of the Redskin's staff evaluation process. I'd love to hear if they're keeping this part of the band together.

Posted by: daggar | January 16, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Cody "M Effing" Glenn making a play.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:07 PM

That is how I see/saw it too!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Skins cut both Cody Glenn and Bridgers.

Vinny brought them both in, so who cut them?

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Man I love the way Ed Reed plays.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

The bad sailing pass was intercepted, a long run back for Ravens ends in fumble and once bouncer to the Colts.
Any doubt about this game has been removed, right?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Before his 2 TD passes before the end of the half, Peyton was sucking it up. I'm sure you just saw that terrible INT he just threw. He was lucky that Garcon bailed him that time. He almost started digging his grave again. Also, if you did not check, up to this game, Peyton is only 7-8 in the playoffs. Hence the name Typical Playoff Manning. With his skills, Peyton should be well over .500.

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My answers of why some on here seem to have no clue are answered if given enough time.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 16, 2010 9:37 PM

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 16, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Give 'em one more possession exchange before decamping, Ray.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Dang

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Reed w/two interception that don't help the Ravens. WOW! Sometimes it's not your day.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

to trade with Buffalo based on point value

we would send our 1st and 5th picks

we would get their 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks

They would really have to want someone bad at the #4 slot to make that trade

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 16, 2010 10:11 PM

If the Bills want a QB, they should move ahead of the Skins to either #2 or #3. The Browns and Seahawks will be looking for a QB as well. The Skins will be thinking that way as well, so hopefully two teams move up before #4 to get Clausen and Bradford, leaving the Skins to choose between Okung, McCoy, and Berry (assuming Suh goes #1).

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Ed "freaking" Reed has been reincarnated in this year’s draft in the body of Eric Berry.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Ed "freaking" Reed has been reincarnated in this year’s draft in the body of Eric Berry.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 10:27 PM

He's one of only two other player worth the #4 IMO. The Skins can get OL players later if they decide Berry over Okung.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

F Peyton Manning & the REFS!

Posted by: tony325 | January 16, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Ed "freaking" Reed has been reincarnated in this year’s draft in the body of Eric Berry.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 10:27 PM

He's one of only two other player worth the #4 IMO. The Skins can get OL players later if they decide Berry over Okung.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:29 PM

There are only 3 guys that I would deem worthy of the #4 pick.
1. Suh
2. Berry
3. Okung


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

There are only 3 guys that I would deem worthy of the #4 pick.
1. Suh
2. Berry
3. Okung


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 10:37 PM |

You're right. I just assumed Suh would be gone at #1.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

There are only 3 guys that I would deem worthy of the #4 pick.
1. Suh
2. Berry
3. Okung

Posted by: Diesel44

And we should be able to get one of them.

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Game. Set. Match.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Back up the trucks...this one is OVER. 2 terrible games that were never in doubt, hopefully tomorrow brings a Dallas loss.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Before his 2 TD passes before the end of the half, Peyton was sucking it up. I'm sure you just saw that terrible INT he just threw. He was lucky that Garcon bailed him that time. He almost started digging his grave again. Also, if you did not check, up to this game, Peyton is only 7-8 in the playoffs. Hence the name Typical Playoff Manning. With his skills, Peyton should be well over .500.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake

Are you kidding? If he's busting Peyton's chops, no Skins QB will ever be worth Sh!t to him.

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

We have to build from the lines out. Berry might be an all world talent (ala Ed Reed), but I'd take a crafty veteran FS like Sharper and a 10 year LT like Okung over Berry and some free agent tackle stopgap.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

So far, the trend tonight is that home teams are the winning teams. Hopefully this holds true in Minneapolis.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 16, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Favre got a raw deal in Green Bay and now gets a nice shot at redemption. It would be extra sweet when it comes at the expense of Tony Homo and the Cowgirls...

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Of course I'm busting Peyton's chops for his playoff performances. He's mediocre in the playoffs. That's a fact. Would I still want Peyton on my team? Absolutely. Is he guaranteed to perform well in the playoffs like he is in the regular season? Absolutely not.

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Are you kidding? If he's busting Peyton's chops, no Skins QB will ever be worth Sh!t to him.

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 10:45 PM

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 16, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

TWSI-

To dcwun's point...one should be available, if not both. The farthest Suh will fall is #2. I'd be happy if it's between Berry and Okung and go apesh!t if we pick Bradford.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

We have to build from the lines out. Berry might be an all world talent (ala Ed Reed), but I'd take a crafty veteran FS like Sharper and a 10 year LT like Okung over Berry and some free agent tackle stopgap.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 10:46 PM

However, if through FA the OL can be addressed, then Berry might be the right pick w/OL in the 2nd rd.

Me, I like Dwyer, but I think Spiller may also be worth the #4 pick.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

IF both DT's are gone, I think its highly unlikely Berry slips by Tampa. Morris is a DB guru and would love a talent like Berry to tinker with. 3 could be a spot Buffalo tries to move up to if they think the Skins are eyeballing one of their QB prospects. Again, Buffalo doesn't have a HC yet, so this post is merely conjecture.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Favre got a raw deal in Green Bay and now gets a nice shot at redemption. It would be extra sweet when it comes at the expense of Tony Homo and the Cowgirls...

Posted by: rich20ssu

Favre did NOT get a raw deal. He screwed the Packers with his retirement BS for years.

Saying that, I can't stand him. The team I hate the most versus the player I hate the most. Oh well, I guess 53 is greater than 1. I hope the Vikes destroy them.

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

hey if people are willing to trade up to get Clausen or Bradford ??
Then we should no doubt move down, pick up a few extra picks and take the best OL available at say 9 or 10.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 16, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

We have to build from the lines out. Berry might be an all world talent (ala Ed Reed), but I'd take a crafty veteran FS like Sharper and a 10 year LT like Okung over Berry and some free agent tackle stopgap.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 10:46 PM |

What I'm saying is if Okung is gone at #2 to the Lions, and Berry is there at #4, with no trade down options, I'd make that pick.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Favre did NOT get a raw deal. He screwed the Packers with his retirement BS for years.

Saying that, I can't stand him. The team I hate the most versus the player I hate the most. Oh well, I guess 53 is greater than 1. I hope the Vikes destroy them.

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 10:53 PM |

My feelings exactly!!!! (and my use of the exclamation point does not mean I am female!)

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

The Colts safety, Bethea was from Howard right? How'd we let that one slip through the cracks? Oh well...

Favre needed time to figure out what do with his career. He pulled the Packers out of the toilet and carried them on his back for almost 2 decades. He earned that right. With that being said, I'm a big Rodgers fan and think he's a top 5 QB with a bright future.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

What I'm saying is if Okung is gone at #2 to the Lions, and Berry is there at #4, with no trade down options, I'd make that pick.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:54 PM

I just can't see any way the Lions pass on Okung considering Backus is going into his 10th year and they drafted Stafford last year.

The right move is to trade back but only 5 teams have traded into the top 5 in the last 15 years.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Zorn may have been inexperienced, but I doubt
any top coach could have done much better with a BAD O LINE..BEFORE THEY ALL GOT HURT.
He ended up pulling players off the street.
Bad drafting over a number of years, plus handing out huge contracts to players that did not make a significant impact on the success of the team.

Why should we draft a defensive player with the #4r pick...when we have a terrible O line..and lost Samuels to injury?

The Skins need O linemen and a fast/shifty running back.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | January 16, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

What I'm saying is if Okung is gone at #2 to the Lions, and Berry is there at #4, with no trade down options, I'd make that pick.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse


Doubtful the Lions pick Okung at 2. Their D was soft as butter last season (except against us) and McCoy could be Scwartz's new AH. If there is no Okung and its either Berry or one of the junior QB's, I'm with you, take Berry. No chance of that happening though, and we both know it.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Flacco is an average QB. Did anyone pay attention to the line Ozzie put together and how high those guys were drafted? Grubbs, Gaither, Oher, and Birk. That an O-line for ya.

Please pay attention Mr. Allen.

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Baltimore's O looks worse than ours...

Posted by: edvar | January 16, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

4-10 for 37 yards last week is not my definition of "average". But agree 1000% with the advice to Allen. Except that Allen is the finance guy and not a talent evaluator. Shanahan will make the picks and Allen will hammer out the contracts.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone mention that Flacco had a 10.0 rating, completed only four of ten passes, and the Ravens still won a playoff game?

Do they have a good O-line? What about their running game?

I wonder "how" they won the game.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 16, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

dcwun, Skins930, I'm with you guys. My hatred of the Cowboys far exceeds my loathing of Brett Favre. Beyond that, I'm afraid if the Cowboys win tomorrow they're going to win the Super Bowl. And I simply can't have that.

Man, do I effing hate Dallas.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

(Sorry, SMACK.)

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

When Favre was available, who can honestly say they would've been excited to have him Skins colors? I would've for sure.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Mock Draft Analysis Update - 140 drafts selected

#1 - Clausen 56%, Suh 41%, Bradford 2%, Berry 1%

#2 - Suh 52%, McCoy 24%, Okung 18%, Berry 4%

#3 - McCoy 45%, Berry 36%, Okung 6%, Suh 6%, Morgan 4%

#4 - Bradford 36%, Okung 23%, Clausen 14%, Berry 9%, McCoy 5%

#5 - Okung 39%, Berry 22%, Campbell 11%, Davis 6%, McClain 5%

For what its worth

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 16, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

good post. thanks for the info tampa

DRAFT OKUNG

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 16, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

I just can't see any way the Lions pass on Okung considering Backus is going into his 10th year and they drafted Stafford last year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 11:01 PM

Agreed Diesel. You'd think the Lions would want to minimize the possibility that Stafford gets beat up again. If all the teams in the top 4 draft logically , at this point, you're looking at:

1. Suh
2. Okung
3. G. McCoy
4. Berry/Bradford/Clausen

Again in this situation I take Berry. Assuming teams are either or on both QB's, the Chiefs should have a lot of action at #5

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

4-10 for 37 yards last week is not my definition of "average". But agree 1000% with the advice to Allen. Except that Allen is the finance guy and not a talent evaluator. Shanahan will make the picks and Allen will hammer out the contracts.

Posted by: rich20ssu

I gave him the credit for a decent regular season but he was AWFUL in the playoffs. Hopefully, its a collaborative effort in making the picks. Shanny's picks and free agent aquisitions haven't been the best.

He gets major props for drafting Ryan Clady though.

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Man, do I effing hate Dallas.

As do I

Posted by: edvar | January 16, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

How many of you would've been jumping for joy if Favre came to Washington instead of New York? All of you. That's who.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Doubtful the Lions pick Okung at 2. Their D was soft as butter last season (except against us) and McCoy could be Scwartz's new AH. If there is no Okung and its either Berry or one of the junior QB's, I'm with you, take Berry. No chance of that happening though, and we both know it.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:02 PM |

I don't know, you have a franchise QB and you don't draft the franchise LT? Would you accept that from the Skins?

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

When Favre was available, who can honestly say they would've been excited to have him Skins colors? I would've for sure.

Posted by: rich20ssu

NOT ME! He's had 2 good years in the last 8.

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Man, do I effing hate Dallas.

As do I

Posted by: edvar | January 16, 2010 11:12 PM

As does any real Skins fan regardless of JReid's/RI's call to root for the cowpies just to have them have more issues w/FA.

F dallas!!!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 11:03 PM

Cerrato only liked former Terps OL if they were available as undrafted FAs.

We could have had him in place of Tyron who we took in the 4th in 2008.

Gaither looks like a 10 yr LT taken in the 5th rd of the supplemental draft in 2007.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

does anyone know who is our scout guru. or did vinny just pick up the Scouts Inc. magazine and thumb through it? do we even have a scout front office?

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 16, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

I think the Lions go defense regardless. I can't recall their line being that bad. Besides, I think they drafted a few O-lineman pretty high over the last three years.

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

How many of you would've been jumping for joy if Favre came to Washington instead of New York? All of you. That's who.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:13 PM

Not me! F Favre and his can't make up my mind if I want to retire or continue to play BS over the last several years.

That kind of selfishness I do not want on my team.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

How many of you would've been jumping for joy if Favre came to Washington instead of New York? All of you. That's who.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:13 PM

No way. We would be what 5-11 or 6-10 and that's if he could have taken half the hits JC did.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 16, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

How many of you would've been jumping for joy if Favre came to Washington instead of New York? All of you. That's who.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:13 PM

moot point he wanted to go to a team that had at least a 5% chance of making the playoffs

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 16, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Man, do I effing hate Dallas.

As do I

Posted by: edvar | January 16, 2010 11:12 PM

As does any real Skins fan regardless of JReid's/RI's call to root for the cowpies just to have them have more issues w/FA.

F dallas!!!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 11:17 PM |


Dam straight! Just can't do it.

HAIL!

Posted by: edvar | January 16, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Yes, but when have the Lions done the logical move?

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Gaither looks like a 10 yr LT taken in the 5th rd of the supplemental draft in 2007.


Posted by: Diesel44

Yeah, I know. More more I think about it, the more pissed I get.

Posted by: dcwun | January 16, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Yes, but when have the Lions done the logical move?

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:23 PM

Don't they have a different GM now. In fact an ex-Skin if I am not mistaken. Let's not think of them as the same old Lions since Millan was fired.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

The Lions gave up 43 sacks only 3 less than the Skins. They gave up 95 QB hits, the exact same amount as the Skins. Why wouldn't they have OL as a priority just like the Skins? Throw in the fact that they have a franchise QB in the house.

Anyway, assuming Suh #1, G McCoy #2, the Bucs should go Berry or Okung, then the Skins should get the sloppy seconds.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Yes, but when have the Lions done the logical move?

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:23 PM |

Millen is gone.

Posted by: edvar | January 16, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Many of those sacks likely came from their rookie QB holding the ball too long trying to make reads. Ours came from a line made up of has beens and never will be's.


With that being said, you want Berry and I want Okung. The thing we can agree on is not taking a QB at 4 and I think that makes us both intelligent people tonight.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words, the Ravens will be heading to worse times in the coming seasons as the loss of Rex Ryan continues to affect this team. Kudos to John Harbaugh for two playoffs in his first two years, but his offense is not that good and as his D continues to decline, so will the team, in spite of their OL.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 16, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Unless either Berry or Okung blows a knee and is never effective and the junior QB's light it up for 15 years...But that's what's so fun about the draft.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

With that being said, you want Berry and I want Okung. The thing we can agree on is not taking a QB at 4 and I think that makes us both intelligent people tonight.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:31 PM

No, I want Okung. I don't think he'll be there.

Posted by: TWISI | January 16, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Then cross your fingers and number one he's falls to the Skins and number two, they're bright enough to pick him.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 16, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

the post is having their way with these idiots

Posted by: BMACattack | January 16, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

why do these idiot post reporters continue reporting non-news about people we don't care about anymore. let them move on because most logical fans have , this is not a story , its nonsense

Posted by: TheBeatDontStop | January 17, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS should trade down to #8 with OAKLAND when GERALD McCOY falls to the four slot because OKUNG is off the board at that point. REDSKINS pick up their second in return. Trade with San Francisco[HAYNESWORTH] for a first and sixth this year, and a third next.

Take BRUCE CAMPBELL OT with the #8 pick.

Take C.J. SPILLER RB with the #13 pick.

Take JASON FOX OT with the #37 pick.

Take DAN WILLIAMS DT/NT with the #39 pick.

Take JEROME MURPHY CB fourth round

Take ERIC OLSON C fifth round

Trade sixth round from SAN FRANCISCO to ARIZONA for GREG TOLER CB.

Take TERRELL WHITEHEAD FS seventh round

Take MATT McCRACKEN OG as free agent.

Take KEITH BULLOCK or ANGELO CROWELL SSLB UFA.

Sign JASON CAMPBELL for two with incentives.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

There are A LOT of really good looking OT's in this draft. I think with the #4 pick in the draft you go for a game changer. Someone on O who can score anytime he touches the ball, or on D someone who can take over a game and dominate the opposing O. Guys like:

Spiller seems like the type on O
Rolanda McLain (MLB) seem like the type on D
I don't need McCoy or Suh at #4 if I'm switching to a 3-4

Personally, If I could trade back about 6-10 spots and pick up another second rounder plus, or a third and a 4th, I would do it.

Gotta figure our 5th pick in the 2nd round will get us either Bruce Campbell, Kyle Calloway, Selvish Capers or Ciron Black at OT, and that would be just fine.

There are so many scenarios it makes my head hurt...

Posted by: edvar | January 17, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 12:23 AM |

We're boys, but freaking WOW. That would be a dream come true much like a Jessica Biel and Alba sandwich.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS should trade down to #8 with OAKLAND when GERALD McCOY falls to the four slot because OKUNG is off the board at that point. REDSKINS pick up their second in return. Trade with San Francisco[HAYNESWORTH] for a first and sixth this year, and a third next.

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fantasy football at its finest

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 17, 2010 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Some players I would like to see us take if they are available in lower rounds 3+
(yes I know we don't have a 3rd rounder - yet)

RB - Ryan Mathews, Fresno State
KR - Antonio Brown, Central Michigan
FS - Major Wright, Florida
CB - Jerome Murphy, South Florida
QB - Dan LaFevour, Central Michigan
G - Dan Doering, Iowa
LB - Micah Johnson, Kentucky

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 17, 2010 2:08 AM | Report abuse

Read a few comments... First off I think Zorn was sabotaged from the get go. When you got a chimp like Cerrato running personnel your screwed. We'll never know how his system coulda worked with a competent GM. No system will work without a Line. Be that as it may it was definitely time for a change of guard from the top down. I think if we continue to resolve some OL issues in FA, I think we should take CJ Spiller with our 1st round pick, he's just a guy you dont pass up on(See the other CJ- Chris Johnson). But at the same time this is a really weak draft for OL; Russell Okung, who by size literally fits Shanahan's perfect mold for OL, would be one of the only few good choices that could translate to a starter. Lastly, looking at Shanahan previous drafts in Denver he took an OL twice, at most 3 times, in the first round.

Posted by: lsx981 | January 17, 2010 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Read a few comments... First off I think Zorn was sabotaged from the get go. When you got a chimp like Cerrato running personnel your screwed. We'll never know how his system coulda worked with a competent GM. No system will work without a Line. Be that as it may it was definitely time for a change of guard from the top down. I think if we continue to resolve some OL issues in FA, I think we should take CJ Spiller with our 1st round pick, he's just a guy you dont pass up on(See the other CJ- Chris Johnson). But at the same time this is a really weak draft for OL; Russell Okung, who by size literally fits Shanahan's perfect mold for OL, would be one of the only few good choices that could translate to a starter. Lastly, looking at Shanahan previous drafts in Denver he took an OL twice, at most 3 times, in the first round.

Posted by: lsx981 | January 17, 2010 2:13 AM | Report abuse

Just be a man and say "We sucked and did not deserve our $millions earned on the job!". Instead, they are just worried about feeling hurt and connections lost despite already earning enough $$ versus what an average worker in America can make in a life time. I have no sympathy for these useless, productionless greedy Bstards!

Posted by: JohnWWW | January 17, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Just be a man and say "We sucked and did not deserve our $millions earned on the job!". Instead, they are just worried about feeling hurt and connections lost despite already earning enough $$ versus what an average worker in America can make in a life time. I have no sympathy for these useless, productionless greedy Bstards!

Posted by: JohnWWW | January 17, 2010 7:35 AM |

JohnWWW! Go look at the bottle again! I'm pretty sure that it says "Take two pills." This is what happens when you take eight pills. Get the dosage right before your friends wake up!

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

The point about excessive mention of Hurricaine Katrina is a valid one.

However, the point is not about whether we empathize with the suffering of the citizens of New Orleans or appreciate the impact that the hurricaine had on the lives of millions of people. Surely, we all do. It was a terrible tragedy.

The issue is that the NFL and it's partners constantly exploit the tragedy to advertise their brand. It's slick advertising wrapped in the cloak of nobility.

Posted by: benz9 | January 17, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

twisi

"Iupati, Mike OL 6-6 / 325 Idaho"

I haven't seen this guy play, so I'm really interested in watching him in the Senior Bowl.

Guys like him are why the team needs an additional second rounder.

If you trade away the 1st pick in the '11 draft, you get a second rounder and you can take a tackle, guard, and quarterback/running back--serious building blocks--and know you have value.

That could be: Bradford/Spiller, Iupati, and Okung for those of you who'll complain about mortgaging the future.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 17, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 12:23 AM |

We're boys, but freaking WOW. That would be a dream come true much like a Jessica Biel and Alba sandwich.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS should trade down to #8 with OAKLAND when GERALD McCOY falls to the four slot because OKUNG is off the board at that point. REDSKINS pick up their second in return. Trade with San Francisco[HAYNESWORTH] for a first and sixth this year, and a third next.

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fantasy football at its finest

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 17, 2010 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Thank you gentlemen. I aims to please. Please please, no applause, throw silver only.

edvar is right. There is no truth, way, and light this year. Practically all the cards are on the table. I didn't even mention the possibility of PORTIS being traded for picks. But I'm sure ALLEN will.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

All of this "road to the Super Bowl" hype depends upon whether SNYDER has finally learned to keep his hands off his now rusty, bent toy, and on SHANAHAN's willingness to turn over responsibility for the defensive personnel decisions to someone who knows what the hell they are doing.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

All of this "road to the Super Bowl" hype depends upon whether SNYDER has finally learned to keep his hands off his now rusty, bent toy, and on SHANAHAN's willingness to turn over responsibility for the defensive personnel decisions to someone who knows what the hell they are doing.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 9:16 AM

Yeah, all that plus a lot of luck.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

I geuss you can call this a pattern when someone talks to JReid and he transcribes the convo to the public and how he interprets it......

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 17, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I keep telling ya'll...

CJ SPILLER!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 16, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse


Dexter McCluster in the second round has every bit the talent as Spiller and will be able to draft OL with the fourth pick

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | January 17, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

The Ravens beat their self and the Colts defense helped!BTW F-Dallas!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | January 17, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Anybody know Morocco Brown's status?

Posted by: Keyskonnection | January 17, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Unless there is a guy a team is dying to take, it's hard to trade out of a #4 spot. Since we need so many things, you have to pick the best player available. I would love for us to pick up Suh, but no way in hell he's there at #4.


Spiller is not a top 10 pick but he's a triple threat with the run, pass catching and kick returning.

I think you start trading back for more picks in the 2nd.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

More fantasy football:

#4 JIMMY CLAUSEN or #4 GERALD McCOY and trade HAYNESWORTH for another first and sixth this year and a third next.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I hope Farve and Minnisota have a great game today and shut the "girls" down!
I work with a guy who is a huge cowgirl fan, his name is Dallas. This guy has gave me hell all year about the Skins.
I just hope Tuesday is a little payback and I can talk about how bad the boys got played.
Anyway Im just tired of the Cowboy talk on the radio and TV..These guys just talk like the game has already been played.
I love the Skins...But i think we all have a little Viking in us for one day!

Posted by: wvskin | January 17, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

SUH is the only top player I'm sure will not be there at #4. Tap CLAUSEN, OKUNG or McCOY if any one of them is at #4, and one will be. If it's McCOY trade with OAKLAND for HAYNESWORTH and extra picks.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

VIK'ES rule, 'BOYS drool. GO FAVRE, smoke WARE for 200 yards.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

From an article a few years ago,

With the 2007 NFL draft rapidly approaching, fans and analysts are wondering if any of the top teams will make a blockbuster trade on draft day, involving any of the top five picks.

If you're one of these people, you can exhale and stop wondering. The chance of any of the NFL teams possessing top five selections - Oakland, Detroit, Cleveland, Tampa Bay and Arizona - trading down is slim.

Although most fans believe that trading a top choice is relatively easy, it is actually a very difficult proposition. Sure, the value of the top pick in the NFL draft may be extremely high, but the amount of salary that must be paid to any player selected in this spot is equally large.

So, in most cases, money becomes the primary issue. If a team in a lower position in the first round has salary cap problems, that team won't be too eager to move up and add potentially millions of dollars more in salary, even with the rookie minimum active salary, which helps teams compensate to some degree on draft day.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 17, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Basically for trade downs, you're in a better position in 6-10 than 1-5

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 17, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I think the Redskins actually have the skill players to succeed next year, they need to strengthen their O-Line, big time. Campbell should be here next season, but I do think the Skins need to draft another QB. I've been impressed with the QB from Central Michigan (LeFevour) as I caught him on ESPN twice this year. There doesn't appear to be any "students" of the game in this year's QB draft class, but I guess the coaches will determine that after workouts and interviews.

Posted by: JinxMan | January 17, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I'll play!

1st Pick:

Russell Okung, Oklahoma State - Scouting Report
Height: 6-5. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.22.
Projected Round (2010): Top 5 Pick.
10/24/09: Having a very good year, but could receive some competition from Bruce Campbell to be the first left tackle off the board. It'll be hard for the Chiefs and Lions to pass up on him.

1/6/09: Russell Okung, Oklahoma State's starting right tackle, qualified for the All-Big XII First Team. I couldn't blame him if he declared early, but he could be a first-round prospect if he wats another year. There's even a chance he gets drafted toward the end of the opening round this April.

7/27/08: Played extremely well for the Cowboys as a sophomore. Russell Okung should be able to play multiple positions at the next level, as he also works out at guard.

2nd Pick:

# Maurkice Pouncey, Florida
Height: 6-5. Weight: 318.
Projected 40 Time: 5.15.
Projected Round (2010): 2.
1/12/10: Maurkice Pouncey has declared for the 2010 NFL Draft. Pouncey is a versatile player who can play center, guard and right tackle. He could be drafted early on Day 2.

Scouting from WalterFootball.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Dexter McCluster in the second round has every bit the talent as Spiller and will be able to draft OL with the fourth pick

Posted by: skinztattoo89

He shouldn't be compared to spiller IMO, maybe sproles, not spiller.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

ESPN says Gaines Adams died in the hospital this morning @ 26. Didn't give a cause of death.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Adams died early on the morning of January 17, 2010 after he was taken to the emergency room in Greenwood, SC. Early reports is that the cause of death was a heart attack, but an autopsy will be performed by a forensic pathologist in Anderson County, SC.[6]

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

top athletes rarely have heart attacks without an outside, (drug induced) cause.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Should take a look at this guy in the later rounds,LaMarcus Coker, Hampton Once the combines start he will probably move up. Has 4.28 speed. Seems like he has gotten his life together.

http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2010/01/tennessees_lamarcus_coker_has.html

Posted by: Seasontickets1966 | January 17, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I can pretty clearly remember people on this blog advocating we lose all of our remaining games to get a high draft pick. Now we want to trade back with the untradeable...

BTW any thoughts on Rolando McCLain at MLB with the #4 pick? If we are switching to a 3-4 D, he would be a major piece of that puzzle. Could dominate at that position for 8-10 years. Fletcher is gonna need help on the inside and this guy reminds me of Urlacher (without all the injuries, I hope)

Rolando McCLain 6-4 256 Alabama (junior) 4.6-40 - Honor roll student

Something to think about...

And before you all start freaking out about O line - I too insist we address the O line, but we have FA and picks in rounds 2 & 4 for that...

For example in the second round take either Selvish Capers 6-5 300 from WVA (the guy runs a sub-5.0 40) or Kyle Calloway from Iowa or Jason Fox from Miami

Shanny seems to have great success with running backs chosen on the second day, so if we don't grab Spiller at #4, we may survive.

Lots of options...

Posted by: edvar | January 17, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

tweet Gaines Adams, DE, Chi has died

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 17, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

"top athletes rarely have heart attacks without an outside, (drug induced) cause.Posted by: 1965skinsfan"

It's not as uncommon as you think. All it takes is a certain type of congenital abnormality plus extreme stress. Check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfans

Posted by: Samson151 | January 17, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Draft trades involving top 5 picks since 1998

1998 - ARI trades #2 to SD, SD takes Ryan Leaf

1999 - Washington trades #5 to NO, NO selects Ricky Williams

2000 - SF trades #3 to Washington, we takes Samuels

2001 - SD trades #1 to ATL, ATL takes Vick

2003 - Chi trades #4 to NYJ, Jets take Dewayne Robertson

2004 - SD trades Manning to NYG for Rivers and extra picks

2009 - Clev trades #5 to NYJ, Jets take Sanchez

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 17, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Yep, Gaines Adams died. Due to the sudden nature, I wonder if he had some sort of undiagnosed heart condition or something of that nature. He had no history of health problems.

------------------------------------

tweet Gaines Adams, DE, Chi has died

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 17, 2010 12:07 PM

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

And before you all start freaking out about O line - I too insist we address the O line, but we have FA and picks in rounds 2 & 4 for that...

I think it will take a bit more than a "Hello, O-line!" at this point.

There's a reason the top Left Tackles go in the first ten picks each year, and we need to replace Chris Samuels.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Bears' defensive end Gaines Adams died this morning after he was taken to the emergency room at Self Regional Hospital in Greenwood, S.C., according to Greenwood County Coroner James T. Coursey. He was 26.

It remains unclear how or why Adams, who was the fourth overall pick in the 2007 draft out of Clemson, died. An autopsy is expected.

The Bears' traded a second-round draft pick in the 2010 draft to the Buccaneers for Adams in October. He was expected to play a big role for the Bears next season.

Coursey said Adams appeared to be in perfect health. The Greenwood Sheriff's Office and the Greenwood County Coroner's Office.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 17, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Should take a look at this guy in the later rounds,LaMarcus Coker, Hampton Once the combines start he will probably move up. Has 4.28 speed. Seems like he has gotten his life together.

http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2010/01/tennessees_lamarcus_coker_has.html

Posted by: Seasontickets1966 | January 17, 2010 11:59 AM

This guy will need a big week at the Combine. Hopefully he has turned his life around. If he has, some team will get a draft day steal.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

toot-toot-TOOOOOOOT!

Uh, no. That was my new Viking horn, but thanks for asking. F Dallas!

JinxMan, if not for the content of your post I'd say you were the new 4-12. I was going to volunteer you to tell Jared Allen his mullet looks stupid, any takers?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

And before you all start freaking out about O line - I too insist we address the O line, but we have FA and picks in rounds 2 & 4 for that...

I think it will take a bit more than a "Hello, O-line!" at this point.

There's a reason the top Left Tackles go in the first ten picks each year, and we need to replace Chris Samuels.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 12:12 PM

+++

Yeah, I'm hearing you, but consider this; Shanny's prototype lineman is different then other teams, so the ones he would choose might not be in the same demand as other teams looking for Maulers. So there's a chance the guys he will want will still be around.

Having said that, Okung could very well fit his scheme, and if we took him at #4, I would stand and cheer.

In the first round, you have the chance to take a game changer, and that's something that is very difficult to get in later rounds, unlike good O linemen.

An Ulacher type MLB at 6-4 256 who has proven his dominance playing in a 3-4 scheme on the National Championship team while staying on the honor role will certainly not be found in the later rounds

Just sayin...

Posted by: edvar | January 17, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

By the way...

I don't wanna hear any more talk about how "class" of an organization the Eagles is...

They haven't won jack! No Super Bowls!

I'm glad the Ravens lost...I haven't heard a peep from my neighbors:)

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Easiest way to shut up a Feebles fan:

"How many Lombardi trophies do you have?"

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I don't wanna hear any more talk about how "class" of an organization the Eagles is...

They haven't won jack! No Super Bowls!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 12:59 PM

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Here's to the Vikings blowing out the Cowgirls.

*Chug*

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

The Rams have more superbowls than the EAgles

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

YES! ROMO SACK-FUMBLE!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Too Toooo Too Toooo

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

It's not as uncommon as you think. All it takes is a certain type of congenital abnormality plus extreme stress. Check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfans

Posted by: Samson151


not saying he did or was doing anything wrong, still say it is RARE for an elite athlete to suffer this fate. Marfan syndrome will be easy to see if that's the cause. Tragedy either way, but worlds apart in nature IMO.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Sherm was taking a shot at any of the old coaches here. He was just trying to keep his wagon hitched to the gravy train that is Dan Snyder. Sherm just wants stay in his good graces should the need for a consultant arise...again.

Posted by: sjp879 | January 17, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I long to see Orakpo used like Ware, having designed blitzes for him.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Man, Sackfest 2010™.

Anyone see the look in Romo's eyes during the snap count before the sack? I believe I saw the same look in JC's eyes this season once or twice. Straight scurred.

And Demarcus Ware is a butt sniffer.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Suishamed!!

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Nice, Shankham misses from 48.

F dallas!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Swiss Ham is....oh no! Was that outside his range?!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Some things never change.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

swiss-em misses wide left

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Suisam will not be on an NFL roster after this season.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Well at least he got it there.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

AHHHHH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

SWISS-HAM MISSED THE FG!!! OF COURSE HE MISSES NOW...WHEN IT MATTERS!!! HA HA HA!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

How sweet it is!
Way to go Shaun!!!

Posted by: wvskin | January 17, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

SuishamShank (non Redemption)

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Posted by: ATLredskin | January 17, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Suishy misses a clutch kick from 40+...

In a world that is always evolving, sometimes its nice to know that some things never change...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Shazam!

Awesome.

I've been living in MN for over a decade, but I think it's taken a playoff game vs. Dallas to finally, really cheer for them. GO VIKES!!

Posted by: MNSkinsFan | January 17, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Cannot believe they tried Swiss Ham from 48 yards.

LOLOLOLOL!
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Is jreid keeping a updated calculation of SUISHAM'S accuracy %? no dice from 48. Predictable.

Posted by: AdamCr | January 17, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

FAVRE WITH THE LONG TD PASS!!! YEAH BABY!!! THE ROUT IS ON!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Rice Rice, baby...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Too Tooo. Too Tooooo

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

WOW! What a pass!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

My idea of a perfect ending: Vikings 23, Dallas 21. Dallas drives to the 7 with five seconds left. Suissham comes out and misses the field goal.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

TOUCHDOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FARVE STILL GOT IT

Posted by: ATLredskin | January 17, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Go Vikes!!

Go Purple!

F dallas!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Troy Aikman never shuts his monotone yapper when Romo is playing.

Favre throws a TD to Rice, and suddenly he's at a loss for words.

I hate ex-Cowboy commentators...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

MN WR got away with some Offensive pass interference with his left arm..
Too bad CowGirls.. Go Vikes

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Rice Rice, baby...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:29 PM

What a huge improvement in that guy's game.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Didn't JReid rip the Skins for cutting Suisham?

You want hot sauce on your crow baldi!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

fun to see Cowboy coaches yelling at each other.. classy

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

My idea of a perfect ending: Vikings 23, Dallas 21. Dallas drives to the 7 with five seconds left. Suissham comes out and misses the field goal.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse


My idea of a perfect ending:

Vikings 42, Cowboys 0
Romo has 5 turnovers
The new Cowboys stadium inexplicably collapses.

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Vikings 42, Cowboys 0
Romo has 5 turnovers
The new Cowboys stadium inexplicably collapses.

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:34 PM

And Shankham misses three field goal attempts.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Come on, sack the sorry SJK!
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Pause for some JC17 hate:

So much is made of the Skins receiveres developing and taking a step forward.

When your QB is talented enough to deliver long strikes on the money, all you need is to be a decently capable WR.

That Fvre pass was so on the money that Sensebaugh didn't even see it go by, and Rice could have closed his eyes and the ball would have fallen in the basket.

I have never seen JC17 throw a strike like that. Ever.

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

My idea of a perfect ending: Vikings 23, Dallas 21. Dallas drives to the 7 with five seconds left. Suissham comes out and misses the field goal.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse


My idea of a perfect ending:

Vikings 42, Cowboys 0
Romo has 5 turnovers
The new Cowboys stadium inexplicably collapses.

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

And Jerry's face inexplicably slides right off his head on national television.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

F tony romo, but dude has some mad pocket presence and knows how to move around back there.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

and Wade still gets a contract extension.
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My idea of a perfect ending: Vikings 23, Dallas 21. Dallas drives to the 7 with five seconds left. Suissham comes out and misses the field goal.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

and Wade still gets a contract extension.
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My idea of a perfect ending: Vikings 23, Dallas 21. Dallas drives to the 7 with five seconds left. Suissham comes out and misses the field goal.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 1:39 PM

And Suissham, too.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

From PFT:
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 17, 2010 1:23 PM ET
The stunning passing of Bears defensive end Gaines Adams was because of cardiac arrest caused by an enlarged heart, a Greenwood, South Carolina coroner said Sunday morning.

ESPN's Adam Schefter passed along the news.

Adams was believed to be asleep when the cardiac arrest occurred. We send his family and friends our condolences at this difficult time.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Stop the JC hate, now!!!
(but, you're right)
=====================================


Pause for some JC17 hate:

So much is made of the Skins receiveres developing and taking a step forward.

When your QB is talented enough to deliver long strikes on the money, all you need is to be a decently capable WR.

That Fvre pass was so on the money that Sensebaugh didn't even see it go by, and Rice could have closed his eyes and the ball would have fallen in the basket.

I have never seen JC17 throw a strike like that. Ever.

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:37 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

There is a reason why only a few QBs can make that throw: Favre is a Hall of Fame QB. I don't think anyone on RI ever suggested that JC is HoF material including supporters on here.

Would Joe Flacco be able to make that throw?

---------------------------------

I have never seen JC17 throw a strike like that. Ever.

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:37 PM

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Here's why I HATE Bret Favre...

He's a selfish diva who has an eternal pass from the media. Here's a guy who jerked everyone around with his retirement. He hosed the Jets and basically coaches the Vikings.

What ever happened to "No 1 man is bigger than the team". Because he fist pumps, has some stubble and speaks with a southern twang doesn't make him a good guy.

With that said...Go Vikes! I hate the Cowboys more!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

F tony romo, but dude has some mad pocket presence and knows how to move around back there.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 1:38 PM
=====================================

He's operating behind one of the best offensive lines in the NFL.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

p1funk...

Before you can make that throw, you have to have the BALLS to wanna make that throw....

JC woulda thrown a checkdown to ARE for a 3 yard gain!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

swiss ham may have to kick here

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Another Swiss shank?

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

SHANK! SHANK! SHANK!
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

With that said...Go Vikes! I hate the Cowboys more!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse


Agreed.

Favre-worship in the NFL is one of the most annoying and revolting things about the league...

...second only to Cowboys-worship...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

There was an ambulance waiting for Sweesh if he missed that one. I have a scud missile...

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

yeah.. but what if he was with the Skins..??
You'd be wearing Favre underwear right now.
===================================


Here's why I HATE Bret Favre...

He's a selfish diva who has an eternal pass from the media. Here's a guy who jerked everyone around with his retirement. He hosed the Jets and basically coaches the Vikings.

What ever happened to "No 1 man is bigger than the team". Because he fist pumps, has some stubble and speaks with a southern twang doesn't make him a good guy.

With that said...Go Vikes! I hate the Cowboys more!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 1:42 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Stop the JC hate, now!!!
(but, you're right)
=====================================


Pause for some JC17 hate:

So much is made of the Skins receiveres developing and taking a step forward.

When your QB is talented enough to deliver long strikes on the money, all you need is to be a decently capable WR.

That Fvre pass was so on the money that Sensebaugh didn't even see it go by, and Rice could have closed his eyes and the ball would have fallen in the basket.

I have never seen JC17 throw a strike like that. Ever.

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:37 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse


I know. I'm sorry.

I need to be focusing on Cowboys-hate.

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I hate the Cowboys, but love playin' in the NFC East. That's my saving grace if they win.

I had a thought on Favregh. Remember all those painkillers he was takin' during his Green Bay runs? Could the anti-inflamation properties of those have contributed to his longevity? Does he need an asterix on his career?

Interesting...

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 17, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

*begin medical post*

The stunning passing of Bears defensive end Gaines Adams was because of cardiac arrest caused by an enlarged heart

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I'd bet an awful lot of money they'll find a hole between the two top chambers of his heart, atrial septal defect. The heart swells from the extra work required to get blood to the body and eventually fails.

*end medical post*

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

FAVRE WITH A GREAT TD PASS!!!

ROUT ROUT ROUT!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

SkinsNeedAGM....

I would not route for Favre...Redkin or not...

He's the textbook example of a double standard...

There was virtually no coverage or scrutiny for his addiction to painkillers...he's known as a gunslinger but has more TD's than INT's...

I'm just sayin'...

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Favre is just too good. I hate all old white people right now.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

14-3 Vikes.. Jerry Jones is going to pop a stitch or pull a hair plug.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

my wife is piiiiiiiiisssseddddd... egh. hehe.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 17, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

"Great" lateral on the kickoff return 'Girls.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

So what's on tap, now?

Romo starts getting cute and throws a pick? Holds the ball too long in the pocket trying to "make something happen" and Allen clobbers him?

Let's see what's in store...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Rice Rice, baby...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 1:29 PM

What a huge improvement in that guy's game.

Posted by: TWISI

huh? he's looking better because of a competent QB. The O-line, WR's and TE's all look better when you have a capable QB.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

SACK-FUMBLE ON ROMO AGAIN!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Holds the ball too long in the pocket trying to "make something happen" and Allen clobbers him?

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Give this man a drink on me.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

ROMO

I believe that is Latin for FAIL!
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

So what's on tap, now?

Romo starts getting cute and throws a pick? Holds the ball too long in the pocket trying to "make something happen" and Allen clobbers him?

Let's see what's in store...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse


Allen clobbers Romo.

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

F dallas!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Holds the ball too long in the pocket trying to "make something happen" and Allen clobbers him?

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Give this man a drink on me.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse


Thanks Longballs,

I'll go get a Sam Adams Cherry Wheat from my fridge and mail you the tab...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Saints/Vikings will be a humdinger!

They should honor Tarkenton and Manning (Archie..poor Archie never won sh*t!)

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

This is so unlike Tony Romo to choke in a big game. I think he's been hanging around too much with Suissham.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I think Tarkenton and the Purple People Eaters ran into the buzzsaw that was the Doomsday defense!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

It would of been great to of had him as the Skins QB... But, our OLine would of sent him to IR (and Retirement) by game 4.

Brett Favre 1st Qtr = 107.4
4th Qtr last 7 minutes =118

Jason Campbell 1st Qtr = 69.8
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 61.0

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SkinsNeedAGM....

I would not route for Favre...Redkin or not...

He's the textbook example of a double standard...

There was virtually no coverage or scrutiny for his addiction to painkillers...he's known as a gunslinger but has more TD's than INT's...

I'm just sayin'...

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 1:57 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

But Jason Reid says Swiss-ham is the bestest kicker in Redskins history. He just hasn't been hanging around him enough.

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This is so unlike Tony Romo to choke in a big game. I think he's been hanging around too much with Suissham.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 2:07 PM

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I'll go get a Sam Adams Cherry Wheat from my fridge and mail you the tab...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I'll mail you a six if you keep making these kind of predictions, oh Nostradamus.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Manning (Archie..poor Archie never won sh*t!)

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse
I think he wins "best QB genes for a dad" award.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 17, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Do I see a Romo pick-6 in the next two minutes?

I think that's what I see...
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

no true.. Archie won

"Best QB DNA Award"
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Saints/Vikings will be a humdinger!

They should honor Tarkenton and Manning (Archie..poor Archie never won sh*t!)

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 2:06 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Flozell?

Hee...hee...hee!

Mr. and Mrs. Flozell Adams!
Hey Flo...kiss my grits!

...Note to self (do not make fun of Flozell Adams to his face...keep it strictly electronic)

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I got one more...

If Tony Romo and Flozell Adams got married (not that there's anything wrong with that)...they would be....

FloMo!!!!!

LMAO!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Favre may be a HoF Qb but i personaly lost a lot of respect for the guy when he GAVE Strahan the single season sack record.
Hall of Fame...Yes
Integrity...None

Posted by: wvskin | January 17, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Archie Manning play with horned rimmed glasses or goggles a la Bob Griese?

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Chester Taylor>Chester Copperpot

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I'll go get a Sam Adams Cherry Wheat from my fridge and mail you the tab...

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Beer has become so complicated...

Pass me a cold "Old Miluakee"

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Swiss Ham doesn't look nervous at all, no sir...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

lol, great way to end the half, watching romo run around like that bird w/out its head.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Jerry is not happy...and Shanahan has been snapped up..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

WHY??

I watch the game an have to listen to Tory Aikman's partially-concussed monotone blabber.

Then switch to the half-time crew to stare at Jimmy Johnson's helmet hair.

WHY DO NETWORKS THINK THAT EX-COWBOYS FROM THE 1990's ARE INTERESTING PEOPLE???

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

ROMO

I believe that is Latin for FAIL!
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 2:04 PM

I had two years of Latin and I'm pretty sure Romo is Latin for Whale's Vagina.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I believe it' 3rd declension feminine.

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I had two years of Latin and I'm pretty sure Romo is Latin for Whale's Vagina.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 2:39 PM

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

looks like Jerry was busy during halftime..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow...dallas defensive end lines up offsides and somehow the refs call false start against the vikings...refs took 7 points off the board. then the cowgirls get away with a flagrant interference penalty on the next play. unbelievable.

Posted by: aaronharman | January 17, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

PFT is reporting that the NFL has given the green light to allow the Cowboys to go ahead and hold offensively and defensively and no flags will be thrown all game.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Suishamed!

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

SUISHAM!!!!

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

SWISS HAM MISSES AGAIN!!!

SWISS HAM DELIVERS INEFFECTIVENESS FOR THE 'GIRLS!!! BEST MOVE BY ZORN!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

What's that JReid?

Shankham!!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

swiss-hammed. again. this is beautiful.

Posted by: aaronharman | January 17, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey JReid!

What exactly is Suishy's FG% this game???

C'mon, dude. Get him on the phone. Get a quote. Give us a post already.

Posted by: p1funk | January 17, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Who is "Suisham"?

Answer;
Redskins Gift to the Cowboys, that keeps on giving...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHA Suisham misses ANOTHER one! Your welcome, Dallas!! Hope you're liking your new kicker! HAHAHA!

Romo & Dallas Cowboys = CHOKE! And now they won't have a new coach cuz we got Shanahan! I love watching Dallas fail!

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Swiss Ham with the Miss Ham.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

ROMO

I believe that is Latin for FAIL!
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 2:04 PM

I had two years of Latin and I'm pretty sure Romo is Latin for Whale's Vagina.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I thought Romo was the name of that sh!t-covered squirrel that was running around up here...

It's also the first name of a handle of a poster that could make both a wolverine purr and Frank Sinatra look like a hobo.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Suissham won't be able to fly back to Dallas on the team plane. He may have to change in the Minnesota locker room.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Swiss ham coming through for us. Rare...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

another call against the Vikes..
What did Jerry Jones say to the refs during halftime..??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Swiss Ham's chances of making that field goal were the same as getting mauled by a polar bear and a regular bear in the same day.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

LOL @ Romolongballs

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Thats a funny commercial longballs

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

anyone else see the refs looking up at the jumbotron before defining the running into the kicker penalty..?? That was almost a 15 yard penalty.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Reid should make a new post complaining about how the Cowboys are misusing Swisham's talent and that its unfair for a team to expect him to make a FG over forty yards. But all his supporters who were up in arms when he was cut will argue: He's 18-21 ( too bad its never when it counts)

Posted by: ga8085 | January 17, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

What the hell is wrong with the Vikings. They are completely inept this 3rd quarter.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Reid should make a new post complaining about how the Cowboys are misusing Swisham's talent and that its unfair for a team to expect him to make a FG over forty yards. But all his supporters who were up in arms when he was cut will argue: He's 18-21 ( too bad its never when it counts)

Posted by: ga8085 | January 17, 2010 3:13 PM |

He had supporters? Why? I don't recall anyone saying anything but good riddance.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

......who were up in arms when he was cut will argue: He's 18-21 ( too bad its never when it counts)

Posted by: ga8085 | January 17, 2010 3:13 PM

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ummm sounds like someone elses' misleading stats that wears burgundy and gold.
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Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

ROMO WITH AN I-N-T!!!

THREE TURNOVERS!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Romo..............

sweet pass

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Romo chokes again

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Poor Mr. Romo. I don't think that Jessica's going to take him back the way he's playing.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

WAY TO GO ROMO!!!!

Posted by: msrent | January 17, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Sucks about Gaines Adams, poor guy. What's up with NFL players born in 1983? First Sean Taylor, then Chris Henry, now Gaines Adams?

On a lighter note, how bout Suisham missing 2? Are you watching this, JReid? I'm glad the Redskins cut him before Shanny got enamored with that ridiculous "franchise record" that JReid won't shut up about.

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | January 17, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Pretty sure Romo means CHOKE in latin.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

F dallas!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

LOLromo: Picture of Tony Romo with amusingly misspelled caption.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 17, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

He had supporters? Why? I don't recall anyone saying anything but good riddance.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, there were numerous folks that came on here saying what a huge mistake it was to cut a guy that was 18-21. Unless it was just Reid posing as 5 different handles. Who knows..
Wow Romo, how do you throw that right to the LB? Hilarious!

Posted by: ga8085 | January 17, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about Swiss Ham. We have Graham Gano, a guy who has made clutch kicks.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Romo got hit hard! L-O-L!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

ass on the ground, ass on the ground, Romo lookin like a fool with his ass on the ground.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

If that were real turf, romo would be pulling grass out of his nose on that sack.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

To-ny! To-ny!

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | January 17, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Cowboy fans not happy...
Stuck with Wade (shanny slips away).
And stuck with Romo for 5 more years.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/tony-romo-of-old-shows-up.html#comments

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

WOW! WHAT A PASS BY FAVRE!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

^^^from the 'girls blog:

Posted by misterbretty @ 2:27 PM Sun, Jan 17, 2010
That's not fair to Tony. He's trying to make a play under incredible pressure. The offensive line has been terrible. They deserve all the blame for this loss.

Stupid Romo apologists...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

And another!! Give that man a coconut missus. Happy days...

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | January 17, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

This is almost as good as watching the Skins win!!

Posted by: whitmerdavid | January 17, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

^^^from the 'girls blog:

Posted by misterbretty @ 2:27 PM Sun, Jan 17, 2010
That's not fair to Tony. He's trying to make a play under incredible pressure. The offensive line has been terrible. They deserve all the blame for this loss.

Stupid Romo apologists...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 3:37 PM

sounds like they have their version of our pabrain, pa17,& dcwun.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

That what I wanted..an arse whopping for the Cowboys. All those ESPN and NFL Network slurpers can go stick it.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Imagine if Favre were still playing at a HOF clip! He makes his team better unlike our QB.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

This is almost as good as watching the Skins win!!

Posted by: whitmerdavid | January 17, 2010 3:39 PM

Well, yeah, if you ignore the fact that the Cowboys will now be able to get all the free agents they want and we'll be stuck with their leftovers. Boo-hoo.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Love to see the Jets beat the Chargers next and then to take down Colts. Like to see Vikings beat the Saints, but....... well that's why they play the game.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Imagine if Favre were still playing at a HOF clip! He makes his team better unlike our QB.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 3:41 PM

We're so screwed. Our QB is not as good as Favre.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I love that Tony Romo is just another Danny White. The 'Girls are guaranteed to never win the big win with Tony White Danny Romo at the helm.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

YAAAHAHAHA!!!! BLOWOUT!!!BLOWOUT!!! BLOWBLOWBLOWOUT!!!! YAAAAHAHAHAHAAA!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ

Posted by: frak | January 17, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Jerry Jones looked like he wanted to cut a QB and fire some coaches on the sideline shot.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 17, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

LOL, Old Man Jerry is on the field experiencing this manhandling firsthand.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

LS,

no he's not nearly as good as this older slower version of Favre. That's tha point skippy

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm loving watching the 'Girls get whupped.

More than that though... honestly? I'm loving watching Jerry Jones sweat and pace on the sidelines like someone stuck in a broken elevator with oncoming diarrhea.

Posted by: TDawg1 | January 17, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Once again, Dallas chokes!

Dallas fans can brag all they want about how they win more games, are more talented and go to the playoffs more than us. But the bottom line is they always end up the same place as us... at home! HAHA! COwboys suck!!! And tony romo chokes during the big games!! =)

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Imagine if the Skins defense played the way the Vikings defense played..good tackling, creating turnovers. Imagine what the Skins could be.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Jerry Jones looked like he wanted to cut a QB and fire some coaches on the sideline shot.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 17, 2010 3:45 PM

If I'm Suissham, I'm not making eye contact with JJ. In fact, I'm not making eye contact with anyone. I'm going out the stadium in my uni and call a cab. Selling that uni on eBay will be his last NFL money.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Same! I love seeing Jerry Jones pace back and forth. And he's probably freaking out cuz we stole their coach! And I love that Troy Aikman is about to cry. Awwww.

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

agree with that Twisi

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

We still have as many playoff wins as the Cowgirls this past decade.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

LS,

no he's not nearly as good as this older slower version of Favre. That's tha point skippy

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 3:46 PM

Agree to agree! It's horrible!

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Imagine if the Skins defense played the way the Vikings defense played..good tackling, creating turnovers. Imagine what the Skins could be.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 3:47 PM |

with no offense, 7-9 at best.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 17, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Lets play the "drink every time they show Jerry "The Crypt Keeper" Jones on the sidelines" game!

Also, using the word "slurper" makes me laugh every time.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm curious to hear what Suisham will have to say. Not that him making two field goals would've really made a difference with the outcome. He's a horrible kicker but he doesn't want to believe it. Where are all the people crying over Suisham getting cut? He's a horrible kicker! But Suisham would tell you he's the most accurate kicker in Redskins history!!!

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

This is getting really funny watching romo out their. Best game of the weekend for this Skins fan!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Jerry is looking forward to the 2011 work stoppage.
Do we get to sue the Skins for our season ticket refunds that year?
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Jerry Jones looked like he wanted to cut a QB and fire some coaches on the sideline shot.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 17, 2010 3:45 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Well, yeah, if you ignore the fact that the Cowboys will now be able to get all the free agents they want and we'll be stuck with their leftovers. Boo-hoo.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse
I thought the loser today was limited to add one FA, plus one for each FA they lose. And winner can only replace any they lose.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 17, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

This beat down has been thoroughly satisfying, but I am really looking forward to seeing Jerry Jones over the next few weeks.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Great to see the 'BOYS undressed and punked before a national audience. Wait 'til next year COWBOYS fans, ha,ha,ha,ha.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

This beat down has been thoroughly satisfying, but I am really looking forward to seeing Jerry Jones over the next few weeks.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 3:54 PM |

I'm looking forward to NOT seeing him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Was that the fat lady with the microphone standing next to Jerruh?

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Jerry Jones gonna lock himself in his new stadiumopolis and call people into his office one at a time, look at them and say "YOU'RE FIRED". then hes gonna try to get a tv show out of it.....oh wait they've already done that. lololololololol

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 17, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

League.. I think you're confused.. Advantage Redskins, in this regards, for not making the playoffs.
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Well, yeah, if you ignore the fact that the Cowboys will now be able to get all the free agents they want and we'll be stuck with their leftovers. Boo-hoo.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse
I thought the loser today was limited to add one FA, plus one for each FA they lose. And winner can only replace any they lose.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 17, 2010 3:54 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

4th DOWN TD PASS BY FAVRE!!! SOOOOO SATISFYING!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

That TD was not necessary, but I loved it soooo much!!!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Running up the score!!

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

34-3
They should take Favre out now.. Or, the angry Cowgirls will "take him out" for running up the score....

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

The Vikings just threw for a TD on 4th and 3 with two minutes left already up by 25 points. I heart Childress.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I thought the loser today was limited to add one FA, plus one for each FA they lose. And winner can only replace any they lose.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 17, 2010 3:54 PM

Really? What's so bad about that? Jason Reid said we had to cheer for Dallas because if Dallas lost it would be like Armaggedon for us in free agency.

How about coaches? Can Dallas still replace their coaches if hey lose today? Shanahan better complete his staff before the final gun because Jerry's probably already making calls.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Running up the score!!

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 17, 2010 4:01 PM

Love it!!

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Damn, you could see the veins throbbing in Jerruhs head. lmao

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 17, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

the cowgirls are now running out the clock so that the Vikes don't poke them again.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Jerruh just asked Favre "would you please come be my QB next season, whatever you want, take your time?"

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 17, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Vikings vs Saints... makes for an interesting NFC Championship game.

Posted by: JinxMan | January 17, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I think I'm going to root for the Vikings JUST because they beat the Cowboys!!

Here they go complaining about "running up the score!"

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

This is posted on the Dallas Cowboys website:

Does anybody have BILL COWHER'S E_MAIL ADD.?

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

This is posted on the Dallas Cowboys website:

Does anybody have BILL COWHER'S E_MAIL ADD.?

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 4:12 PM |

HA!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Jerry,
Please give Wade another chance by extending his Contract.. PLEASE..
Oh, and by the way, thanks for locking the Girls into Romo for the next 5 YEARS!!!

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Damn. Oh well, first day of the dating and actually leaving the house season.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Jerry,
Please give Wade another chance by extending his Contract.. PLEASE..
Oh, and by the way, thanks for locking the Girls into Romo for the next 5 YEARS!!!

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 4:17 PM |

And, while you're at it, give the guy, Suissham another two or three years to develop. He's right on the cusp of becoming one of the greats and it you cut him now you'll regret it the rest of your life, and more than you regret that face you bought.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey, the Championship is going to be in New Orleans? Is that the city that had the hurricane a few years ago? Man, you would think they'd at least mention that on TV, wouldn't you?

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

PFT reports that Swiss Ham is the least accurate kicker in Cowboys history among kickers with at most 10 attempts. A record that cannot be broken...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

yeah..maybe League.. But its sorta creepy too. Alot of people died inside the Superdome during and immediately after Katrina awaiting medical assistance.
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Hey, the Championship is going to be in New Orleans? Is that the city that had the hurricane a few years ago? Man, you would think they'd at least mention that on TV, wouldn't you?

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 4:25 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I bet that Jason Garrett interviews to be HC at Buffalo.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Cowboys blog is enjoyable.. They want Jerry gone!! This sounds very familiar.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/will-wade-phillips-return.html

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I bet that Jason Garrett interviews to be HC at Buffalo.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

And if he does...does jerruh flip out, fire Mayor McCheese and promote Garrett?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Here is the rule so Dallas is still restricted just not as much as they would have been if they won.


"The rule will restrict the final eight teams in the playoffs from signing free agents. The final four teams shall not be permitted to negotiate and sign any unrestricted free agent to a player contract except for players who acquired their status by being cut or were on the final four team when their contract expired. Playoff teams five thru eight get a break to sign one player with a salary of $4,925,000 or more and any number of players with a first-year salary of no more than $3,275,000 and an annual increase of no more than 30 percent in the following years.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 17, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Imagine if that was another owner pacing the sidelines. We would never hear the end of it from ESPN, Fox, etc.

But because its Jerry Jones, its ok. Aikman and Buck mentioned it, but didn't talk about it.

Posted by: Redskin_in_miami | January 17, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Man, what a bunch of awful games.
The CowPies losing big was the only redeeming thing about this one.
Getting depressing, though, there are only four games left, and how many of them will be disappointing?

Posted by: daggar | January 17, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

^^^from the 'girls blog:

Posted by Gregg Rogell @ 3:26 PM Sun, Jan 17, 2010
FIRE JASON GARRET ...that is all

Posted by eattrn @ 3:23 PM Sun, Jan 17, 2010
If I had to make a choice it would be to bring back Wade and dump Garrett for Leach. And please draft many offensive lineman.

Posted by Brent B. @ 3:14 PM Sun, Jan 17, 2010
Most real fans will want to make Jerruh disappear forever and whomever takes charge to fire Wade, Garret, everyone and bring in a real coach. That is just fact. Sadly, it won't happen.

I see the similarities, SkinsGM. lol

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Does Fox have the NFC Championship??
Hope not.. Cant stomach another 3 hours of Buck and Aikman..
Fox needs to have a rule that former players should not be commentators for games that include their former team.. The obvious Bias is an entertainment buzz kill.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Dexter McCluster in the second round has every bit the talent as Spiller and will be able to draft OL with the fourth pick

Posted by: skinztattoo89

He shouldn't be compared to spiller IMO, maybe sproles, not spiller.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 17, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Maybe so but i still think its a better move to draft O-line $th and pick up McCluster with the 2nd rounder

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | January 17, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

letting suisham go so he could sabotage the cowboys in the early goings of that game was Vinny's most brilliant move! I miss the guy already. . .

Au Revoir cowboys!

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | January 17, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey, the Championship is going to be in New Orleans? Is that the city that had the hurricane a few years ago? Man, you would think they'd at least mention that on TV, wouldn't you?

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 4:25 PM

I hear ya LS.

Posted by: msrent | January 17, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

We have to play the Vikings next year so all you guys hoping we draft that Ole Miss all-purpose guy next year must already marked that game with a L...

Posted by: ATLredskin | January 17, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

This officiating crew is making a mockery of this game. Its like they are reffing a HS game instead of a Div Playoff. That personal foul call was especially over officious and weak.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

They accused the Pats of running up the score on the Skins two years ago...

That's not running up the score...we just got our azz kicked!

Now today...The Vikings threw the ball in to the end zone up three scores with 1:55 left???

NOW THAT'S RUNNING UP THE SCORE!!!!

...And I Love It!!!!1

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm not worried about winning games next year. I look to see an improvement on the talent of the team, and see a well coached, well prepared group that plays together like a real NFL team. I want to see the Oline be put in place to set up a 4-6 year run of dominance starting in years 2-3. If this happens, Redskins will win more games next year automatically.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

They accused the Pats of running up the score on the Skins two years ago...

That's not running up the score...we just got our azz kicked!

Now today...The Vikings threw the ball in to the end zone up three scores with 1:55 left???

NOW THAT'S RUNNING UP THE SCORE!!!!

...And I Love It!!!!1

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 5:22 PM |

Um...yes it was. They faked a spike and threw it into the end zone. That is the very definition of running up the score.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

We have to play the Vikings next year so all you guys hoping we draft that Ole Miss all-purpose guy next year must already marked that game with a L...

Posted by: ATLredskin | January 17, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Why do you say that?

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | January 17, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

The Skins need O linemen and a fast/shifty running back.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | January 16, 2010 11:01 PM

RB? We already have a fat, shi... oh, sorry, you said "fast" and "shifty"!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 17, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I call BS on that Chargers "incomplete" pass. Jets were given the shaft.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Agree mpidif. Thought it was a fumble.


Bears Dline not having a good weekend... another guy got busted for busting up a bar in Norman.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Watching these playoff Jets reminds me a bit of watching the old Brunell playoff Skins.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Looked like a catch & fumble to me. Not suprised they saw it different though.

Posted by: msrent | January 17, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

dallas fans like shankham as much as Skins fans do.

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Shaun Suisham on his misses

Maybe things don't play out any differently, but Shaun Suisham's misses from 48 and 49 yards took a lot of life out of the Cowboys Sunday.

The missed 48 yarder on the second drive of the game prevented the Cowboys from taking a 3-0 lead and the 49 yarder that was wide left could have made it 17-6. Again, in a 34-3 loss maybe that doesn't mean much, but at the time they were costly.

"I guess it doesn't matter how well you hit them or how well you don't hit them if the officials don't put their hands up it doesn't matter," Suisham said.

Suisham went 4 of 7 since joining the Cowboys prior to the Dec. 27 game against Washington. He was 18-of-21 with the Redskins before he was released by Washington.

"Certainly it's been an up and down season," Suisham said.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/shaun-suisham-on-his-misses.html

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Sherman Smith should never have been hired as offensice coordinator by Zorn. Smith had no previous experience running the whole offense. He was a running backs coach. Zorn just wanted a friend on his staff but he put Smith in position in which Smith could never succeed because Zorn wanted to mastermind the offense. In this case, to an outsider, it seems as if Zorn set himself and his friend up for failure.

Glad Shannahan fired Smith and kept Olivadotti.

Posted by: neil64 | January 17, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Those boy bloggers don't seem to have much game, LOL

What do you think Smack?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Last week, the last game was the best with great offensive efforts.

This week, the last game is the best with great defensive efforts.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

This game is following the formula for a Jets win. Not saying they will, only that they are on glide slope.

At some point the Jets have to score a TD.

Chargers need to sustain a drive and get another, the longer it stays close, the worse for the Chargers.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

All I know is that Jay Feeley is clutch in important games.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

This game is following the formula for a Jets win. Not saying they will, only that they are on glide slope.

At some point the Jets have to score a TD.

Chargers need to sustain a drive and get another, the longer it stays close, the worse for the Chargers.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 6:36 PM

I think you got it backwards. I think Phillip Rivers is the better, more experienced quarterback and more likely to lead a game winning drive.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

scamp, where in my post did i say sanchez was better and that Phillips couldn't or wouldn't lead a game winning drive?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

The Jets are a pretty darn good football team... if Sanchez makes the usual improvement that you would expect in his second season, they're gonna be the team to beat in the AFC East.

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

That INT by Rivers certainly didn't help the Chargers' cause.

Great INT by Revis BTW.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Phil is not looking like the better QB. He's giving the game to the Jets.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

scamp, where in my post did i say sanchez was better and that Phillips couldn't or wouldn't lead a game winning drive?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 6:52 PM |

Who said that is why I made the comment? I believe that is why San Diego has a better chance. That is what I believe, me, not you, I. Having said that, shows what I know. But just so you get it, I was making a statement on MY belief and the justification was for MY statement.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Just one more time so we're clear. I believe the longer the game stays close the better chance the Chargers have (that is why I believe YOU got it backwards.)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Jets take the lead!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Just one more time so we're clear. I believe the longer the game stays close the better chance the Chargers have (that is why I believe YOU got it backwards.)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 7:03 PM

Now they are going to have to.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse


Just one more time so we're clear. I believe the longer the game stays close the better chance the Chargers have (that is why I believe YOU got it backwards.)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 7:03 PM

Now they are going to have to.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 7:07 PM |

Like I said, goes to show what I know. Open mouth, insert hoof.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Lot of time left scamp.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Lot of time left scamp.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

brookings calls vikings classless and b.s.

williams responds that brookings was about to get his azz kicked.

vikings te responds, ok we apologize. happy now.

lmao

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 17, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Best game this weekend indeed.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

brookings calls vikings classless and b.s.

williams responds that brookings was about to get his azz kicked.

vikings te responds, ok we apologize. happy now.

lmao

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 17, 2010 7:14 PM |

I didn't hear Brooking crying when they were doing the same thing to the Eagles. Waaah frickin' pampers. That dude needs to get rid of the bad 70's haircut.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Jets are looking VERY GOOD right now. Colts should be getting worried.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

3 games and 3 blowout wins by the home teams so far... you knew something like this was gonna happen in this game

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I think you got it backwards. I think Phillip Rivers is the better, more experienced quarterback and more likely to lead a game winning drive.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse


"I think you have got it backwards. Phillips is better blah blah blah"

You are quite apparently comprehensionally challenged. You can't say I have anything backwards that I have not actually said.

What i did say... that this game is following a formula where by the Jets have a chance to win, is even more true now than it was the first time I said it. Keep the score close and low scoring, win at the end. That is the best chance for the Jets to win.

I have yet to say anything re the two QBs other than to agree that Phillips is more experienced and better. He is not playing like it though.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Oh my God! The Jets are thrashing the Bolts!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

look at the hole created by the Jets O-Line...

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

You're obviously not very bright Kaneohe. You specifically said the game is following a formula for the Jets to win. I said I think you got it backwards. What I mean by that is that I think it is following a formula for the Chargers to win. The reason why I think that is because Phillip Rivers is better. Do you get it now? I can't make it any more easy for you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Game time.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Having said that, once again, it goes to show what I know.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

The Jets continue to show that controlling the clock with a run game and defense makes a successful playoff run.

Fatty Reid should take note of Fat Ryan's offensive game plan.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

My only beef is that you said i had it backwards... but did not say the opposite of what i said to refute my backwardness.

Chargers winning with Rivers at the end of a close game is NOT the opposite of "this game is following a formula for the Jets to win. And if you go back to my original post... i even said "not saying they will...only that this game is following a script for them to win".

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes you just need to stop digging and throw the shovel down.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

The Jets continue to show that controlling the clock with a run game and defense makes a successful playoff run.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:27 PM

don't forget the missed FGs that are keeping this from being a drive for the lead.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

kickers are such headcases

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

How is the Chargers' kicker in the Pro Bowl? This is the most un-clutch performance I have ever seen.

Rex Ryan is a genius. Give him a sandwich.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

...and I thought that when I said you had it bacwards you would automatically infger that I meant I thought it was going along a formula for the Chargers to win. That is the opposite of what you said so I didn't think I had to say it twice. Get it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

why is it that all these young qb's seem to understand the playbook in the first and second years, but ours gets a pass every year? Just wondering.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 17, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

omg I just saw the NYJ score. What in the world happened? I thought SD would blow them out by 20!

Norv turner can't get it done..

omg Kaeding missed another one.. he's missed three? He's one of the best kickers! Wow SD looked like world beaters in the regular season.

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Norv deserves better than this.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 17, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Good game by the Jets. I'm really envious of that defense. It's fun to watch.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Wow. What a choke job by Kaeding today.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

It's good defense that makes teams kick field goals instead of make touchdowns.

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don't forget the missed FGs that are keeping this from being a drive for the lead.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 7:30 PM

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

No i don't get it because you have yet to make any sense as to my having it backwards. Get it?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Norv T = Marty S

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

omg Kaeding missed another one.. he's missed three? He's one of the best kickers! Wow SD looked like world beaters in the regular season.

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

one of the guys on the NFL network, I think it was Jamie Dukes is for getting rid of kickers from the game... I think he's looking pretty good right now

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Made FGs are scores. If he made the FGs earlier, it would have been 13-0. No doubt that would have affected the Jets game plan.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

But as today has shown, FGs are hardly automatic and not guarantees.

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Made FGs are scores. If he made the FGs earlier, it would have been 13-0. No doubt that would have affected the Jets game plan.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 7:38 PM

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

And SD is down to the 16 yard line. That missed FG is HUGE.

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

SD still alive!

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

is AJ Smith gonna fire Norv if they lose this game?

you would think he would have to... he fired Schoenttenheimer after going 14-2 after all

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Jets converted. That's the dagger!!

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

REX RYAN IS A GENIUS.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Suisham and Kaeding can switch teams...i think the Chargers and Pokes re gonna have openings, LOL

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

just goes to show what a great O-Line and defense can do for you

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Well Jets win it if Kaeding even makes 2/3.

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

This was a great game. The Jets are my favorite team for the playoffs. Fantastic. Rex Ryan is my favorite fat coach. I'm going to make him a sandwich.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 17, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Well Jets win it if Kaeding even makes 2/3.

Posted by: rachel216

I meant Chargers win it if...

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

SJK!

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I am furious about that extra score the Vikes put on the Cowpies at the end. Why why why didn't they go for the 2-point conversion???!!!

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 17, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Ol' mumble mouth. He's got --what, a decade of head coaching excellence as a resume? He's never let me down. Yes, he's no Zorn, but he's nuch more Zornier than Gibbsian.

At least we can say, finally a watchable game. Three to go, hoping for two decent games.

Posted by: daggar | January 17, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

good thing Snyder didnt agree to giving up JC for only a 3rd rounder last March.. If so we would of been "stuck" with Sanchez..
Now, as an RFA, Skins may still only get a 3rd round compensation offer. ....
oohhh the bitter irony.. Mr. Snyder is drinking a double, right now..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Oogalaboogala: HAHA. At the beginning I thought you were going to complain about them runnning up the score on the cowgirls! I agree! They should've went for the 2 point conversion! lol!

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

And to continue this thought...
I think JC should be GM.. HE KNEW SANCHEZ WAS GOOD...
If JC wants to be traded again, if Snyder looks at another QB,.. GET HIM.. HE MUST BE GOOD!!!

April 24th 2009 Wash Post Headline..

Campbell Wants Out If Redskins Draft QB

If the Washington Redskins select Southern California quarterback Mark Sanchez in tomorrow's NFL draft, starting quarterback Jason Campbell will request to be traded, NFL sources said last night.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/23/AR2009042304673.html
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good thing Snyder didnt agree to giving up JC for only a 3rd rounder last March.. If so we would of been "stuck" with Sanchez..
Now, as an RFA, Skins may still only get a 3rd round compensation offer. ....
oohhh the bitter irony.. Mr. Snyder is drinking a double, right now..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

yeah..

once again a top ten QB will win the Superbowl this year.

It doesn't matter how good your O-line/RB/WRs are if you don't have a frickin good QB to run your offense, you ain't gonna win a Superbowl!

Now if you do have a really good O-line/RB/WRs IN ADDITION TO HAVING a great QB, well then your chances are that much better.

Unless you have one of the greatest defenses ever, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WIN A SUPERBOWL WITH AN AVG QB PERIOD.

If there is a franchise QB in this upcoming draft, I hope we get him.

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 8:26 PM

The Jets don't have a top ten QB and are well positioned to get to the SB. These franchise QBs you're talking about, how many years have they been in the league. How many years did they have to wait for their team to be built before they were able to make a run into the playoffs. Conversely, we see Sanchez, Flacco, Ryan all make a run into the playoffs because their team were run first dominate OL offenses. Their defenses caused turnovers,sacks etc. I get some of you have a one track mind around here, but the holy savior QB isn't going to get the Skins anywhere near the SB next year, or there after without the OL and the running being addressed on the offense, and the defense caused more T.O and negative plays on the defense.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Saw Childress after the game comments... i think the last score had more to do with the Vikes having to put up with the entire country anointing the Pukes SB champs before the game was even played. They were out for blood, and drank lustily, LOL.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

The JEts will not will the Superbowl, twisi.

We just differ in opinion on how you win football games.

I believe it starts with the QB. I'm not so 'one track minded' as much as i follow trends.

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Makes sense TWIS until you try to explain Collins coming in for only 4 plays in the last Gints game (last 4 of the first half) and FAR exceeding Campbells output (ie. FOR THE WHOLE HALF), including what would of been a TD pass except for Davis dropping a perfectly thrown ball.
Same personnel (OLine, RBs, WRs) top to bottom.
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The Jets don't have a top ten QB and are well positioned to get to the SB. These franchise QBs you're talking about, how many years have they been in the league. How many years did they have to wait for their team to be built before they were able to make a run into the playoffs. Conversely, we see Sanchez, Flacco, Ryan all make a run into the playoffs because their team were run first dominate OL offenses. Their defenses caused turnovers,sacks etc. I get some of you have a one track mind around here, but the holy savior QB isn't going to get the Skins anywhere near the SB next year, or there after without the OL and the running being addressed on the offense, and the defense caused more T.O and negative plays on the defense.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 8:36 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I've been first about 94 times. But this is the first time that I've ever been 462nd.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing about franchise QBs is that when you find him, all the other pieces become easier to find.

The NFL has consistently seen offensive players produce marvelous seasons only to be lost b/c of poor QB play. (jus one example: Chris Johnson behind STELLAR O-line)

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

yeah..

once again a top ten QB will win the Superbowl this year.

It doesn't matter how good your O-line/RB/WRs are if you don't have a frickin good QB to run your offense, you ain't gonna win a Superbowl!...

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 8:26 PM

Vinny, is that you? Seriously, a strong O-line and running game normally puts your QB in the top 10. Less pressure = more time and better decisions. When the Skins had a decent O-line and reliable running game for 8 games last year, JC17 looked pretty darn good.

Conversely, Tom Brady and Donovan McNabb looked pretty awful at the end of this year when facing the kind of pressure they would have seen every week as a Skins QB, behind a consitently bad line with no reliable running game.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 17, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

sloppy 462nds..
++++++++++++++++++++++
I've been first about 94 times. But this is the first time that I've ever been 462nd.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 8:47 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

You act like Sanchez is Joe Montana. He barely has to do anything to win games. I wouldn't say Snyder is kicking himself on not getting him.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 17, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 8:42 PM

Don't get me wrong, you need a franchise QB. You also need to protect that franchise QB, and you need to get to the other teams franchise QB to win continually. I think if you really check the trend,teams have established strengths and finding the QB is the last ingredient (Ravens, Jets, Falcons,even Vikings to some extent).

SkinsneedaGM I'm not going to get into a debate tonight. 24 is about to start. I've had our debate and you're too obsessed with this JC is the only problem position to even make debating you enjoyable.

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Alan4,

I disagree that a strong running game and o-line put your qb in the top ten. see titans this year, vikings last year, panthers last year.

i did say that those two things can help so please don't ignore that tidbit.

I thought Tom Brady and McNabb had really good o-lines? that's what made them great right? Brady is still a top ten QB in this league even if his o-line got their butts kicked by a vicious d-line.

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

No i don't get it because you have yet to make any sense as to my having it backwards. Get it?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 17, 2010 7:34 PM |
...and I thought that when I said you had it bacwards you would automatically infger that I meant I thought it was going along a formula for the Chargers to win. That is the opposite of what you said so I didn't think I had to say it twice. Get it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 7:32 PM


Really? This post didn't say the exact opposite of what you said? Are you retarded?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Alan4...
JC's ratings have been consistently poor the last 4 years..
I really beleive the Skins have not had that consistently poor of an OLine the last 4 years.. Yes, Given.. there have been alot of ups and downs.. injuries, etc

But, JC's QB Ratings have been bottom 10 percent of the NFL consistently. You dont get to 211th of 214 QBs in the history of NFL for TD red zone efficiency without that same consistency. (thats all the NFL QBs that have 900 or more attempts).
Or, the Skins being 3rd lowest scoring team in the past decade.. without JC behind Center the last 4 years..
====================================
alan4 wrote,
yeah..

once again a top ten QB will win the Superbowl this year.

It doesn't matter how good your O-line/RB/WRs are if you don't have a frickin good QB to run your offense, you ain't gonna win a Superbowl!...

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 8:26 PM

Vinny, is that you? Seriously, a strong O-line and running game normally puts your QB in the top 10. Less pressure = more time and better decisions. When the Skins had a decent O-line and reliable running game for 8 games last year, JC17 looked pretty darn good.

Conversely, Tom Brady and Donovan McNabb looked pretty awful at the end of this year when facing the kind of pressure they would have seen every week as a Skins QB, behind a consitently bad line with no reliable running game.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 17, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't say Snyder is kicking himself on not getting him.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 17, 2010 8:54 PM
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Technically, I think he's too short to kick himself.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 17, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

sloppy 462nds..
++++++++++++++++++++++
I've been first about 94 times. But this is the first time that I've ever been 462nd.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 8:47 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Dude, long train.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 17, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Ol' mumble mouth. He's got --what, a decade of head coaching excellence as a resume? He's never let me down. Yes, he's no Zorn, but he's nuch more Zornier than Gibbsian.

At least we can say, finally a watchable game. Three to go, hoping for two decent games.


Posted by: daggar | January 17, 2010 8:09 PM

He's worked for two of THE WORST owners in the league. The one time he had talent here, he went to the playoffs. He's been successful in SD. He's just had some bad breaks. Kaeding was the best kicker in the NFL this year. Who would have thought he would have an epic fail in this game.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Technically, I think he's too short to kick himself.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 17, 2010 9:01 PM

Alright, then he's stumbling over himself.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Kaeding was the best kicker in the NFL this year. Who would have thought he would have an epic fail in this game.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 9:04 PM

Well, at least he will be available to kick in the pro bowl.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

He's worked for two of THE WORST owners in the league.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 9:04 PM

And, when he was Dallas OC, he worked for another of the worst.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

SkinsneedaGM where are you getting your redzone efficiency stats from?

I found that JC17 had a 108 QB rating in the redzone in 2009--pretty impressive!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 17, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Man did I enjoy watching Dallas getting their azzes kicked.

F - Dallas!

Posted by: edvar | January 17, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

We coulda had Sanchez dammit!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh and that was so awesome watching Suisham miss those FGS.

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

LS, what's your point? The situations were different. Jerry let the football people do their job back then.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

We coulda had Sanchez dammit!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 17, 2010 9:13 PM |

...and he would now be crumpled and ruined.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

F dallas -- now jerruh has to decide whether to fire wade. But how does he fire the guy who won 11 games, a division championship and their 1st playoff W in 13 years? 34-3. Love it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

And as a bonus, I got to see Norv bite it. All things considered, twas a good day.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 17, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I've been first about 94 times. But this is the first time that I've ever been 462nd.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 8:47 PM

Good thing WaPo left the door open for us hamsters while they took the day off.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

SkinsneedaGM where are you getting your redzone efficiency stats from?

I found that JC17 had a 108 QB rating in the redzone in 2009--pretty impressive!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 17, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse
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Alan4

I believe he is in last place for all non first year NFL QBs for First Quarter QB rating (pure QB stats.. no prevent D mop up in the 4th) and the last 7 minutes of the 4th Qtr.
(From NFL.Com)
Jason Campbell 1st Qtr = 69.8
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 61.0

The Red Zone Efficiency quote came from a Tom Boswell article....

"Out of all the 219 passers in NFL history who have thrown at least 900 passes, Campbell ranks in a five-way tie for 201st at 3.1 percent. Only 14 quarterbacks, all nonentities, rank lower."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/20/AR2009092002697_2.html?sid=ST2009092002988

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I've been first about 94 times. But this is the first time that I've ever been 462nd.

Posted by: League-Source | January 17, 2010 8:47 PM

Good thing WaPo left the door open for us hamsters while they took the day off.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 17, 2010 9:21 PM |

The offseason is the regular season for the hamster nation. BRING ON THE COKE!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 17, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

487th!

Posted by: farstriker | January 17, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Alan4 , you're kidding right?
According to the link you provided we are better off with Campbell then Peyton Manning?
I would love to know what games he scored those 2 TDs in? How far behind were the Skins when he threw those..??
Here is a better comparison of Manning and CAmpbell's QB Ratings in the last 7 minutes of a game.. (imagine how much lower without the mop up Prevent D stats).

Peyton Manning 1st Qtr = 101.7
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 132

Jason Campbell 1st Qtr = 69.8
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 61.0
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From the alan4 link..

4. Red Zone Efficiency. A great deal is often made of evaluating QB’s based on how well they perform in the Red Zone (inside the opponent’s 20 yard line). While these statistics do not tell the entire story, we can, in some instances, see a connection between a team’s struggles and these QB numbers.

* Peyton Manning. 5 of 10 for 27 yards. 2 TD, 1 INT. Rating 56.2

* Philip Rivers. 5 of 16 for 28 yards. 1 TD, 0 INT. Rating: 61.5

* Tom Brady. 10 of 23 for 81 yards. 2 TD, 0 INT. Rating 82.0

* Jason Campbell. 8 of 13 for 47 yards. 2 TD, 0 INT. Rating 108.0

* Ben Roethlisberger. 8 of 10 for 33 yards. 1 TD, 0 INT. Rating: 113.8

* Drew Brees. 13 of 19 for 106 yards. 6 TD, 0 INT. Rating: 121.9

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 17, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm really looking forward to a more aggressive defense.

from what i gather, many here are fans of the confusing/guys-walking-around-b4-the-snap type of defense.

those defenses have been very successful lately, but that type of defense is typically a zone and i do feel like you still need to mix in some man coverage.

Lets see what Haslett can do.

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I hope Albie Haynesworth can play nose tackle like that Jay Ratliff from Dallas; that guy consistently gets pressure from the NT position.

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

from what i gather, many here are fans of the confusing/guys-walking-around-b4-the-snap type of defense.
_________________________

I believe that's called the "muddle".

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 17, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

BRING ON THE COKE!

Posted by: scampbell1975


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i feel so numb right now

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

"muddle"

definitely my vocab word of the day.

thanx for teaching me.

does the word typically carry a (+) or (-) connotation?

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

My analysis of the last 7 minutes of every blog thread in 2009 proves that 60% of the time Vicc wins the "LAST" game every time.

Posted by: RomoLongballs

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I try to be consistent.

~

Posted by: Vicc | January 17, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

it's just a muddle, no right or wrong. of course it's a + if it succeeds, - is it fails...

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 17, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

"Good game by the Jets. I'm really envious of that defense. It's fun to watch."


That's the kind of defense you have to hope Haslett installs.

Thing is, you have to have an elite cornerback to make it happen.

Lito Shepherd is the number one corner on most teams, but D Revis, he's just another guy.

Presently, with C Rogers and D Hall in the house, both redskin corners are just a couple of guys.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 17, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

"...from what i gather, many here are fans of the confusing/guys-walking-around-b4-the-snap type of defense."


Actually, a lot of posters are jumping aboard a bandwagon that's circled this blog several times.

Anyone who doubts this style of defense should watch how the 4-3 vikings went 'confusion' on the dallas cowboys today and got a lot of pressure on Romo.

The jets have a dominate corner in Revis who lets them do a number of creative things as he can take away a quarterback's 1st option on a pass.

NFL teams are fairly predictable when it comes to their protection schemes, so any coordinator who decides to set up, and then attack those schemes is thinking ahead of the curve.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 17, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

"I hope Albie Haynesworth can play nose tackle like that Jay Ratliff from Dallas; that guy consistently gets pressure from the NT position."


There's a guy named Suh in the draft that'll be more effective at that than Haynesworth ever will be.

Haynesworth isn't conditioned to be a D Docket, J Ratliff, or K Williams.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 17, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I'd sure love to read Jreid and Swish's texts tonight. What would we do without Shazam?

http://www.star-telegram.com/dallas_cowboys/story/1900360.html

Posted by: AdamCr | January 17, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

He's worked for two of THE WORST owners in the league. The one time he had talent here, he went to the playoffs. He's been successful in SD. He's just had some bad breaks.

1) Ol' mumble mouth had SEVEN years here. "the one time he had talent". SEVEN years here.
2) Yes, successful in SD, where he's taken a 14-2 Ferrari in a division of Yugos and managed to lose him some playoff games in a lot of different ways. Even Zorn might have a fighting chance against 2xOAK, 2xDEN, 2xKC. Well, not Zorn, obviously, but someone with an ounce of competence.
3) His comment about Darrell Green is worth at least one kick straight to the groin. F-tard.
4) He's an effin CowPie.
5) A weekend where the CowPies are eviscerated and ol' mumble mouth gets kicked in the teeth == schadenfreude defined.

Posted by: daggar | January 17, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

"Good game by the Jets. I'm really envious of that defense. It's fun to watch."


That's the kind of defense you have to hope Haslett installs.

Thing is, you have to have an elite cornerback to make it happen.

Lito Shepherd is the number one corner on most teams, but D Revis, he's just another guy.

Presently, with C Rogers and D Hall in the house, both redskin corners are just a couple of guys.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 17, 2010 10:00 PM

Moe would drafting a FS in the Ed Reed mold help turn a couple of guys to no average joes?

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

BRING ON THE COKE!

Posted by: scampbell1975

You want some coke? There it is. Don't come up until you're numb. I don't know, Vicc, it's a little early to be starting that "last" talk if everyone is on hamster-crack. Could be a long night...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Moe would drafting a FS in the Ed Reed mold help turn a couple of guys to no average joes?

Posted by: TWISI | January 17, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Maybe. Our defense from '08 needed more sacks and turnovers to turn the corner, so we added big al and sackpo to bolster our solid secondary. And what happens? We get more sacks and turnovers in '09 but now the very same secondary coached by the same people turned to sh!t. And before anyone says it, I know they didn't get any help from our pathetic offense.

While the "this person makes that person a better player" discussion is fun, you could have 11 studs on D and it would be meaningless if they didn't come together and play well together as a team.

That being said, Twis, it's a long way of getting around to agreeing with you, I wouldn't mind taking Berry if we could be assured the Oline would also be sufficiently addressed. But bottom line is we have team builders wearing headsets (hopefully), and that's most important.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

The more I read about Berry, the more I rikey the goods. From his wiki page:

"He currently leads all NCAA players in total interceptions, interceptions per game, interception return yards, and interceptions returned for touchdowns. Statistically, Berry is considered to be one of the most dominant defensive backs in NCAA history, often being compared to Ed Reed."

News to me, prob not to you people. Pre draft is the only time I tune in to NCAA.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 17, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Scamp, no I'm not retarded although i feel a lot closer after the conversation with you where you apparently agreed with my position but said I somehow had exactly backwards.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 18, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

happy 500 on this thread

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 18, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

F-Dallas.

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | January 18, 2010 5:11 AM | Report abuse

He's worked for two of THE WORST owners in the league. The one time he had talent here, he went to the playoffs. He's been successful in SD. He's just had some bad breaks. Kaeding was the best kicker in the NFL this year. Who would have thought he would have an epic fail in this game.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 17, 2010 9:04 PM


At what point does NORV get credit for NORV'S failures? I knew this Charger team wasn't going anywhere and the reason is because Norv is their head coach. In life, there's 3 things that are certain: death, taxes, and Norv Turner's team will implode at an inopportune time.

And people who let him off the hook with the "nobody wins in Washington or Oakland" bullsh*t, stop and think about where those teams were when he got there: the Skins were just 3 years removed from a Super Bowl, the Raiders 2 years. And although both of those teams were bad the year before, they got worse when he got there. He showed steady improvement the first few years in D.C., but he plateaued at mediocrity. As much as we can lay at Snyder's feet, Norv ain't one of 'em since the vast majority of Norv's tenure came pre-Snyder.

So let's get real about who Norv is: a mediocre head coach who makes a GREAT offensive coordinator. Just because 2 idiot owners fooled themselves into thinking otherwise after his decidedly mediocre stint in Washington doesn't make it any less true.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 18, 2010 5:50 AM | Report abuse

I think Sherm Smith was referring to the GM and personnel functions likely improving a great deal under Shanahan and Bruce Allen as opposed to Vinny Cerrato.

Seems like most seasons, there's a surprise team in the NBA's final four -- last year it was AZ, now it's the Jets. Yes, San Diego imploded, like Carolina last year. Unlike Carolina, however, the Chargers are likely to come back strong next season. They have that quarterback.

LT is not LT any longer. I don't know how many times he has to struggle before we believe it. He's still capable of the occasional big game, but he can't carry the offense the way he once did. He's no longer in a class with Peterson or Chris Johnson, Steven Jackson or even his former backup, now in Atlanta.

I suspect the same may be true of Clinton Portis.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 18, 2010 7:00 AM | Report abuse

I'm curious to hear what Suisham will have to say. Not that him making two field goals would've really made a difference with the outcome. He's a horrible kicker but he doesn't want to believe it. Where are all the people crying over Suisham getting cut? He's a horrible kicker! But Suisham would tell you he's the most accurate kicker in Redskins history!!!

Posted by: rachel216 | January 17, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse
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No offense, Rachel, but I'm pretty sure you were one of those people. Maybe even called gano's signing "ridiculous". And I almost definitely recall you lamenting it being unfair that suisham was made a scapegoat and that he'd come back to haunt us like David Akers.

Posted by: AdamCr | January 18, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

So, who else do we think will lose their jobs after yesterday? Norv Turner? Wade Phillips? Shaun Suisham?

Posted by: League-Source | January 18, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

F Suisham, F Dallas, and F every team left in the tournament except New Orleans.

I just love how football analysts and other self-proclaimed "experts" fall head over heels in love with the teams that win on Wild-Card Sunday and then completely forget just why the teams that earned a bye...well, earned a bye. I mean, picking 3 out of 4 teams to upset the top-seeded teams is plain idiotic. And this year's divisonal round proved most of pundits to be just that.

Hope the Saints pull it off, the Gulf coast needs a break every once in a while.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 18, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Just curious, brownwood -- how many "football analysts and self-proclaimed 'experts'" picked 3 out of 4 teams to upset the top-seeded teams?

Posted by: League-Source | January 18, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

finally

Posted by: League-Source | January 18, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Just curious, brownwood -- how many "football analysts and self-proclaimed 'experts'" picked 3 out of 4 teams to upset the top-seeded teams?

Posted by: League-Source | January 18, 2010 7:49 AM


I can't remember exactly who, but there were a couple ESPN talking-heads that had the Chargers over the Jets as a lock and the other three games as upsets. I'll never get why clown coaches like Norv and Wade get all this confidence while guys like Jim Caldwell and Sean Payton are supposedly chopped liver.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 18, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

AdamCr: Hmmm... interesting that you are so sure you know what I thought. Well you don't have very good memory then. I criticized Suisham a lot. I went back to prove it:

I'm so over this team and their stupid decisions!

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 8, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Why is this a stupid decision? Even Tony Dungy would've cut him. This team showed they want accountability with this move. It's a smart move. I don't know what I would do if he missed another critical kick. His kickoffs have been poor as well.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 8, 2009 2:45 PM

Get over it. What use is a kicker who can't make any critical kicks? He's been poor at kickoffs as well. True that he's a nice guy but it's all about business.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 8, 2009 4:01 PM

tele1- Thanks for mentioning the 2007 playoff game vs. the Seahawks. I completely forgot about that. What a momentum killer that was. Bottom line is this guy's kickoffs are short and he can't make any clutch kicks... not to mention very SHORT clutch kicks.

Suisham's a great guy but I'm glad he's no longer our kicker.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 8, 2009 4:08 PM

Boneheaded move by Vinny and Danny. Why wasn't Laron Landry cut - now he really sucks. At least Shaun has proven himself. Maybe if the season was on the line, but for what?!!! So we could be 4-8, rather than 3-9. Great move Vinny and Danny. Proven once again what boneheaded,ignorant football people you are.

Get the hell out of this town!

Posted by: cfrazier91

Shaun's proven himself in what way? He's never been able to make a clutch kick when he's had the opportunity...

If we were to cut Laron, who would we replace him with?

Posted by: rachel216 | December 8, 2009 4:11 PM

So next time why don't you get your facts straight before you go accusing people of saying things they never said. Trust me, I think I'd know what I said better than you.

Posted by: rachel216 | January 18, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

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