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The Redskins, Shanahans and Sam Bradford might be an ideal combo

As always, Rick Maese did an excellent job explaining what our sources are telling us about quarterback Sam Bradford in relation to the Redskins.

Months before Washington officially hired Coach Mike Shanahan, a longtime former NFL executive who knows Shanahan told me that Jason Campbell wasn't Shanahan's type of quarterback. He said he would not be surprised if Shanahan selected a quarterback in his first draft leading the Redskins, and Bradford was the first player he mentioned.

A successful coach who also is familiar with Shanahan's thinking told us Shanahan planned to draft a young quarterback and "raise him." As a quarterback coach and offensive coordinator in two stints with the Denver Broncos, Shanahan played a big role in the success of Hall of Fame quarterback John Elway, arguably the best to ever play the position. Shanahan also helped Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young win a Super Bowl while he directed the San Francisco 49ers' offense.

No one does it better on offense than Shanahan, NFL people say, and he is second to none at teaching and protecting quarterbacks. Because of Shanahan's expertise with the position, owner Daniel Snyder's money and the fan base's relatively low expectations for the team the next few seasons because of more than a decade of mismanagement, Washington appears to be the ideal situation for Bradford.

I mean, what more could an apparently stable, bright, strong-armed rookie quarterback want? Obviously, the former Oklahoma star and Heisman Trophy winner could do a lot worse than learning how to be a pro quarterback from Shanahan and his son, offensive-coordinator-and-head-coach-in-waiting Kyle.

Bradford, from what we're hearing, is not the most NFL-ready quarterback. That title probably would go to former Notre Dame standout Jimmy Clausen, who played in a pro-style offense. Charlie Weis proved to be hopelessly overmatched as a head coach, but he does know a lot about offense, and Clausen probably benefited from his three-year experience with Weis.

Bradford worked in a spread offense at Oklahoma and likely will have some catching up to do to get to where Clausen already is in terms of his understanding of pro-style offenses, blocking schemes, etc. Indeed, in his Pro Day on Monday in Norman, Okla., Bradford took many "snaps" from under center, dropping back to pass and apparently trying to impress upon coaches and scouts in attendance that he's capable of adapting. If he is half as smart as some people believe, his transition shouldn't take long.

And with Washington, Bradford could play behind Jason Campbell for a season, which would give Shanahan more time to fix Washington's offensive line without risking damage to Bradford's body and psyche. Will the Redskins be able to maneuver into position to select Bradford? That's still unknown. But what seems clear is that the Redskins, like many other teams, plan to get into the mix for Bradford.

By Jason Reid  |  March 30, 2010; 10:47 AM ET
Categories:  Jason Campbell , Jason Reid , Kyle Shanahan , Mike Shanahan , NFL Draft , Offensive line  
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And none of this matters, because Bradford will be gone with the first pick.

Posted by: champt10 | March 30, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Trade down if possible. Take Berry and an O-Lineman.
Berry helps two things: A real free safety and lets Landry play closer to the line. He's terrible in coverage and has been playing out of position for two years.

Wish this wasnt the case. RIP # 21

Posted by: saltine182 | March 30, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

yeah, way too expensive to move up to No. 1. The Eli Manning case should be instructive. The Giants could have had Philip Rivers, Kurt Warner, and 4 more picks for their real good years. They would have been a better team longer without paying the price for Manning.

Skins need more picks not less. I'm sure Shanahan would like to do this assuming he really does covet Bradford, but isn't this where having a real GM should start to payoff?

Posted by: shanafan | March 30, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Draft O-line help this year, then draft Locker next year. He's better than Bradford.

Posted by: duncanrobee | March 30, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

What does everyone think of these guys picked up a few weeks back?
Paul Fanaika OG, Lichtensteiger, and Clint Oldenburg OT? Think Shanahan has a plan to use any of them on the starting line? I don't claim to know how good/bad any of these guys are, but perhaps coach has some O-linemen already.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 30, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I don't see what's wrong with this:

RD 1 - QB
RD 2 - LT/OL
RD 4 - RT/OL
RD 5 - LB
RD 7 - OL/LB/DL

You still get your franchise QB...
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Or else you get Heath Shuler. I'm assuming you don't mean trade up and get Bradford, but then the question becomes: Is Clausen more likely a franchise QB or a future congressman? I have my opinion (if we draft Clausen I'll hope for the best, but fear the worst), but I'm nowhere near Shanahan's pay grade, so obviously he'll have to make that call.

Posted by: closer44 | March 30, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Who writes this stuff?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 30, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"I mean, what more could an apparently stable, bright, strong-armed rookie quarterback want?"

An offensive line?

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | March 30, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I feel shanny and allen have their bases covered. Maybe they really want Bradford. But their level headedness so far points to the fact they would not trade up to get him.

So they hope he falls. If he doesnt, they take their next #1 want - Okung.

If he is not there then there may be a good chance at trading out if someone wants Suh or McCoy.

If no trade out, they could take one of those two and stay 4-3 base and mix in elements of 3-4... or reach on Bulaga.

Everyone says shanny wants a QB to groom. But he is confident enough to think that if he doesnt get a guy in round one, he can find him in round two or beyond. He is that good.

Posted by: Zeebs | March 30, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"I mean, what more could an apparently stable, bright, strong-armed rookie quarterback want?"

Oooh! Pick me! Pick me! Is the answer, "An offensive line?"

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | March 30, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

He's well-spoken and comes across as a "face" for the franchise that would be good for media coverage (and merchandise sales). I note, however, that when he's asked a question, a lot of time his mouth is open ... and I know how peeps up here are real concerned about Jason Campbell being a "mouth breather" (but somehow that label never gets tagged on Eli, whose jaw is typically dropped for his mouth breathing). If Shanahallen want Bradford, so let it be written, so let it be done.

[learnedhand, could you please do the drafting for the Skins?]

Posted by: dcsween | March 30, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

give me $20 million and i will play QB with just a center.

Posted by: westjr88 | March 30, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Dan LeFevour would be a good QB to groom, great numbers proven winner and leader, no where near the top 5 pick. Allow us to go after a legit O Tackle or DT in the draft, or Berry depending on where peeps fall. yeah that's right Berry!

Posted by: Stu27 | March 30, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

So Beantown it appears that the head coach of your favorite football team is as illogical and short-sighted as I am.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 30, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

The only QB Shanny drafted and "raised" was Cutler. The other QBs were already with the organization. Did he make them better? Sure he did but he wasn't responsible for the other QBs coming to the organization.

Posted by: dcwun | March 30, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I like the nickname

shanallahan

Posted by: Zeebs | March 30, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I really like Bradford and think he is going to be a stud.. I trust Shanny and co. to know what is best for the franchise, however I just wanna see JC get a year behind a decent O-line with a REAL coach.

With the report coming out that the Ravens are willing to part with Jared Gaither for a second round pick, making a move on this would open up so many opportunities to capitalize on this draft which has been described as the best in years.

Gaither is one of the top LT's (however, the fact they are asking for only a 2nd rounder raises some red flags). We trade our early second rounder + andre carter to them for Gaither, the guy is only 24.

Now that we have our LT, if Bradford is taken #1, we trade back. The most likely partner would be the Bills who would be poppin boners if they could get Clausen. We trade back with them and get their #9 pick + their second rounder (#41). With that #9 pick we draft Trent Williams, the RT from Oklahoma. That instantly gives us one of the best Tackle Duo's for years to come.

With our newly acquired #41 pick we take the best player available at a need position between running back/ nose tackle/ Linebacker. I would wait on the RB till 4th round.

If this draft happened I would bust a serious load in my pants, no homo.

Posted by: jeffco01 | March 30, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

diesel, haha, thats exactly what I was going to write,

so when JC finally does go down for the count this year because the OL isn't upgraded, and Bradford has to go in there, and he gets smashed like JC, what then??

lh, the only way that the Redskins end up with Bradford is if they heavily mortgage the future in order to get him....no, no, and no.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 30, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

The difference btwn Bradford and Marc Sanchez is that the Jets loaded up with offensive linemen when the Skins were loading up with pass catchers. Still, there's gotta be ways to make something work.

Posted by: dcsween | March 30, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand the Bradford/Clausen love. They're both OK, but they're very lucky to come out in a very weak QB year. Would either of them have been drafted before Stafford or Sanchez last year? Would they even have gone in the first round last year?

This is not the year to bet all your marbles on a QB. Bradford and Clausen both have serious question marks.

If the Skins fix the OL, fill some holes in special teams, and add some depth at key positions, that's a successful draft. That's the building blocks for the future. Next year get your QB. The system will be in place, you'll be able to protect him.

Hopefully by 2012 this will be a competitive team. You can't fix overnight what Danny destroyed over an entire decade.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | March 30, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

They don't have to get Bradford or necessarily want him. I think Clausen is their guy. All this Bradford talk is subterfuge.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 30, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I saw on extremeskins.com that Brandon Marshall said "no comment" when asked about the Redskins...what could this mean? Hmmmm...

Posted by: duncanrobee | March 30, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Are you serious? '06: 14-2 playoffs div crown, '07: 11-5 div crown,AFC Championship game, 08: 8-8 div crown playoffs, '09: 13-3, div crown, playoffs. I'll take that all day over what we've been getting.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 30, 2010 11:07 AM


Yeah, and what...2 playoff wins to show for it?

If you ain't first, you're last.

But to answer your question would love to see that sort of success here. But what you fail to realize is that in addition to Philip Rivers, the Chargers have one of the better O-lines in football.

Which was mostly built before he got there.

If anything, the Chargers prove my point...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 30, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Beaner, Rex is the No. 1/No. 2 QB. So the rookie QB, whoever he is, will not be thrown to the wolves.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 30, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Who writes this stuff?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 30, 2010 11:14 AM
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Sounds like alot like what Walter at Walter Football has been writing since January.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 30, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

If the Skins move up for Bradford, then they need to make the trade w/ the Ravens for Gaither. Move Hicks to RT and hope either Rhino or BMW can step up at RG. Get some stability on the OL. No messing around with the 6th or 7th best OT @ #37.

Posted by: TWISI | March 30, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"former NFL executive who knows Shanahan told me that Jason Campbell wasn't Shanahan's type of quarterback"


Campbell doesn't seem to be anyone's "type of quarterback." With only a single first round tender, one might think teams like the Bills, Jags, Raiders, Browns, or Seahawks would be clamoring to get such an experienced starter.


Instead, the Seahawks spent a second round and an undisclosed conditional pick for a guy who hasn't taken a snap in the league, the Browns are going with a guy who has a wet noodle for an arm, and the Raiders appear willing to rent McNabb for a low second-rounder.


All that tells me that few in the league think Campbell is any good.

Posted by: tkoho | March 30, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Last week it was Tebow, now Bradford. Who has the next pro day?

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 30, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

A successful coach who also is familiar with Shanahan's thinking told us Shanahan planned to draft a young quarterback and "raise him."

yeah, lh, thats a lead pipe lock that Shanny wants Bradford.

Book it, or, depends on what the definition of 'is' is.......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 30, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Though I would love to have Bradford, the price to trade up is going to be too steep. Keep the 4th pick and draft Okung and in the second round get your QB(Pike) or trade down for more picks. Trading up is going to cost at least this years 1st and 2nd round picks and next years 1st.

Posted by: Kweb8876 | March 30, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

brownwood, please stop. You look foolish using Rivers and the Chargers as an example. Rivers is the reason the Chargers went as far as they did. That dude has a lot of junkyard dog in him. They have had bad luck with injuries at key positions (QB and RB) during their playoff runs. Last year, the best kicker in the NFL choked.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 30, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I know they say he's beefed up some, but man Bradford looked really skinny playing in college. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztPkDsOlGzU

Posted by: closer44 | March 30, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I like the nickname

shanallahan

Posted by: Zeebs | March 30, 2010 11:22 AM

You put Allen in the middle, I put him at the end (Shanahallen). How he really fits into the puzzle remains a mystery (which I'm totally down with). I didn't make up Shanahallen though. Some other peep up here. I'm guessing he/she said FIRST when they first said it ... or they should have.

Posted by: dcsween | March 30, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

If the Skins move up for Bradford, then they need to make the trade w/ the Ravens for Gaither. Move Hicks to RT and hope either Rhino or BMW can step up at RG. Get some stability on the OL. No messing around with the 6th or 7th best OT @ #37.

Posted by: TWISI | March 30, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse


Good thinking but if the Skins move up to get Bradford, they won't have any picks to trade for Gaither.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 30, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I love how all of these RI articles about Bradford are just talking him up without questioning his durability. They seemed to have no problem having Holmgren question Clausen's ability to play in the NFL and they additionally gave him the kiss of death by giving him a Cerrato endorsement, but where are the questions regarding Bradford? When you think about it the kid only played for two years in college. Last year he had two injuries and the shoulder, although surgically repaired, has not endured a full season of passes. I think there's more of a down side to Bradford than RI is saying. It would be Cerrato-stupid to give up two firsts to move up and draft a QB with so many question marks about health and durability.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 30, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Beaner, Rex is the No. 1/No. 2 QB. So the rookie QB, whoever he is, will not be thrown to the wolves.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 30, 2010 11:25 AM


Yeah, because Rex Grossman is the symbol of durability...you must have missed his first two years in the league. I can just picture Heyer standing over him while he writhes in pain asking, "you OK man?" while Bradford warms up on the sideline.

Which brings us right back to our original position.

I don't get why you're so intent on building this thing backwards...you build the line FIRST and then start putting everything else in line. Spending the 4th overall pick on a 3rd string QB isn't helping anything except Bradford's bank account.

Nobody's saying "don't get a QB"...just "don't get one 4th overall in 2010".

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 30, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"Because of Shanahan's expertise with the position, owner Daniel Snyder's money and the fan base's relatively low expectations for the team the next few seasons because of more than a decade of mismanagement, Washington appears to be the ideal situation for Bradford."

Huh? Low expectations the "next few seasons?" Where in the heck did you come up with that JReid?

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 30, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I like the nickname

shanallahan

Posted by: Zeebs | March 30, 2010 11:22 AM


I'm sticking with

Brike Allahan

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 30, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

brown, heyer would at least bend over to help collect his teeth, don't forget, all while asking, 'was that my guy who got you'

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 30, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

"And with Washington, Bradford could play behind Jason Campbell for a season, which would give Shanahan more time to fix Washington's offensive line without risking damage to Bradford's body and psyche." - Jason Reid

So in other words, let's have Jason Campbell killed one more year with a crappy line, so that Sam Bradford can come in and be the great quarterback we expect him to be! Wow!

Posted by: tryumpfant | March 30, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Good thinking but if the Skins move up to get Bradford, they won't have any picks to trade for Gaither.

Posted by: Original_etrod
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As long as we're giving away the farm... How about trading all our draft picks for the next five years (or however many it would take: 7?, 10?) to the Colts for Peyton Manning? Or if we actually want to win the Super Bowl, to the Saints for Drew Brees?

Don't overpay for Bradford!

Posted by: closer44 | March 30, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Last week it was Tebow, now Bradford. Who has the next pro day?

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 30, 2010 11:28 AM

Jevan Snead stood on his Combine performanc
Mike Kafka was March 11th
Dan LeFevour was March 24th

Colt McCoy is tomorrow March 31st

Jimmy Clausen waits till April 9th ("Jimmy doesn't want to throw with his teammates. Jimmy is going to wait. Jimmy likes Elaine.")

Posted by: dcsween | March 30, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

berry beeps

Posted by: RomoShortball | March 30, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Woldn't it be a hoot if the Skins under supposedly wiser and calmer management than the previous regime went Chicago Bears on us and gave up multiple draft picks, including first rounders, to snag Bradford who has yet to throw his first pass whereas Cutler is at least a proven elite QB with no discernable physical problems like a glass shoulder.

Posted by: ElDrano | March 30, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

brownwood, please stop. You look foolish using Rivers and the Chargers as an example. Rivers is the reason the Chargers went as far as they did.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 30, 2010 11:29 AM


First of all, that was YOUR example...I'm just pointing out to you how that's flawed. Second, I don't get how you can ignore the fact that Rivers had one of the top 3 pass catching TEs in the league over the last decade, a cinch HoF RB for opposing defenses to key on, one of the steadiest O-lines in football, and a top 5 FO putting a great team around him. And that's not mentioning a fairly consistent defense over much of his time there. Insert Phil Rivers in burgundy and gold, and he's the target of the wrath of clowns like Vic1.

QB don't win games by themselves. I don't get why this line of thinking is so hard for so many here...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 30, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: tkoho | March 30, 2010 11:27 AM


All it says is that no team is willing to give up a first for JC right now. Unlike the FO we have seen for the past several years some GMs know what they are doing. Why would you spend a 1st or 2nd round pick when you could get him cheaper if and when the skins draft a qb high?

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | March 30, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I don't get why you're so intent on building this thing backwards...you build the line FIRST and then start putting everything else in line. Spending the 4th overall pick on a 3rd string QB isn't helping anything except Bradford's bank account.

Nobody's saying "don't get a QB"...just "don't get one 4th overall in 2010".

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 30, 2010 11:35 AM

I know my thinking appears to be in line with what post is reporting the HC is thinking but I want to reassure you that I am not building anything. I am not Mike Shanahan posting under an assumed name. I only said I won't be mad if they go QB at 4 and understood that this is a rebuilding process that is going to happen over the course of a couple of seasons.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 30, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

"Trade down if possible. Take Berry and an O-Lineman.
Berry helps two things: A real free safety and lets Landry play closer to the line. He's terrible in coverage and has been playing out of position for two years.

Wish this wasnt the case. RIP # 21

Posted by: saltine182"


.....the most ridiculously talented athlete this franchise ever had...and will have.


Posted by: jmicrodoc | March 30, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

LOL Greg...good call.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 30, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

zeebs
I feel shanny and allen have their bases covered. Maybe they really want Bradford. But their level headedness so far points to the fact they would not trade up to get him.

So they hope he falls. If he doesnt, they take their next #1 want - Okung.

If he is not there then there may be a good chance at trading out if someone wants Suh or McCoy.

If no trade out, they could take one of those two and stay 4-3 base and mix in elements of 3-4... or reach on Bulaga.
posted by: zeebs

It is refreshing to read a reasonable, logical assessment. I agree with you except I don't think Bulaga is a reach.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 30, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Zeebs | March 30, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Dan LeFevour would be a good QB to groom, great numbers proven winner and leader, no where near the top 5 pick. Allow us to go after a legit O Tackle or DT in the draft, or Berry depending on where peeps fall. yeah that's right Berry!

Posted by: Stu27

YES! just need the rams & lions to play along, we take okung, and why not berry? he's a good value and a need position

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 30, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

shhh...keep it on the down lo...the shannys like this bradford kid.

Posted by: sthai75 | March 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Huh? Low expectations the "next few seasons?" Where in the heck did you come up with that JReid?

Posted by: Lisa_R

Yeah f u reid you lost your burst, if we can get Okung and guys like portis and cooley stay healthy, then we're competitive this year

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Shanny's got a bit of arrogance to him. I think he likes his QB's to be that way too. Clausen is the pick at #4.

Posted by: coparker5 | March 30, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

It is close to insane to believe the Skins will trade up (or trade away Carter/Cooley/whoever) to get Bradford and then EXPECT Campbell to be ok enough with the deal to want to remain here. If SB falls from #1, then all hell will break loose with many teams gunning to get him, Skins as one of those. (But that will be known the day BEFORE because of signing issues.) IF there is a move to be made to get SB, JC will HAVE TO BE MOVED. Period. (no one in the league is that emasculated!)

Posted by: DCV1 | March 30, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Huh? Low expectations the "next few seasons?" Where in the heck did you come up with that JReid?

Posted by: Lisa_R

And you think our beloved 'Skins will do better than 7-9 next year? Let's face, we're not going to be good for 2-3 seasons - and that's even if we're doing everything right.

Posted by: XCountryTrevor | March 30, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why people would think that Washington needs a QB... or why someone would presume that Campbell isn't "Shanahan's type."

According to many posters, JC isn't the problem. Rather, the real problems for this club are with its offensive linemen, running backs, tight ends, defensive backs, kickers, kick returners, defenseive linemen, wide receivers, others special teams players, practice squad members, popcorn salesmen, cheerleaders, team owners, front office execs, ticket salemen, parking lot attendants, Hooters waitresses, lawyers, and pilots for the Goodyear blimp.

And if anyone says anything to the contrary, then they're just haters.

Posted by: Vic1 | March 30, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

If in fact the Skins make a successful play for Bradford, and Mike & Kyle coach up JC to some form of competency, while SB sits and learns, they can perhaps swing a trade in 2011 from a team disparate for a QB. Wishful Thinking?

Posted by: Spanglerg | March 30, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

How about: Miuce "Moose" Shanallen

Posted by: marco812 | March 30, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

JC #4 2010 1st + Andre Carter and a late round pick next year. C'mon you know you want too ;)

Posted by: Veretax | March 30, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

If in fact the Skins make a successful play for Bradford, and Mike & Kyle coach up JC to some form of competency, while SB sits and learns, they can perhaps swing a trade in 2011 from a team disparate for a QB. Wishful Thinking?

Posted by: Spanglerg

Indeed, I think this is wishful thinking. He's under a one year contract. How can we trade him after that one year contract expires next year?

Posted by: XCountryTrevor | March 30, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Memo to JReid: using the following phrase in every other "Insider" blog entry got lame after about the third time:

"Shanahan's thinking told us Shanahan planned to draft a young quarterback and "raise him."

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | March 30, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

First pick LT, Second pick RT....enough said already.

Posted by: brett4 | March 30, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

What about Colt Brennan? He's already on the Redskins... He's a young QB with two years of bench experience that Shanahan could mold and mentor into the next John Elway or Steve Young. Brennan proved to be a great college QB with a rifle of an arm and the accuracy of a marksman sniper. In fact, Brennan broke just about every NCAA passing record in his senior year in college and would be a perfect fit for Shanahan's type of passing offense. Why waste money on another young QB in the draft when you inherited a young gunslinger like Colt Brennan?

Posted by: Hawaiian | March 30, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

If we take a Safety with the #4 pick, I'm jumping into the Potomac. A playmaking Safety is a rare luxury, not a necessity. If your d-line creates pressure, and your LBs are reliable tacklers, and your CBs are solid in coverage, all you need is a serviceable Safety to play over the top of it all.

Posted by: brianc2540 | March 30, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Draft either Okung or Berry 1st Round. Draft QB and OL in 2nd after you drop and add a pick. Draft RB in 4th Round. Draft DB or ILB in 5th Round. Draft OL or ILB in 6th Round. Draft DB or ILB in 7th Round.

Posted by: classicskins | March 30, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

We can't build our line first, then wait to draft a QB because once you have a decent line, you win 6-9 games and you won't get a high enough pick to score a stud QB precisely when you need one. With 6-10 wins, you might get lucky that someone falls, you can't bank on it happening and the chances of the falling QB are just as lilke;ly to be Quinn as it is Rodgers. And look what happened when we drafted a stud LT, Samuels: a bunch of mediocre years and the best QBs we could find later were Campbell and Ramsey. Go all in and get a winner for a QB. And if it doesn't work, we'll still suck so we can do it again.

Posted by: cballer | March 30, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN NOTHING ELSE!

Stop with the praising of Shanahan, the man had John Elway he should have won!
Even though Elway were playing with kids ten years younger than he. lol

How many did he win after John Elway retired?

Posted by: SOLVBACK | March 30, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Shanny coached John Elway, Jay Cutler, Jake Plummer, Brian Griese, and Bubby Brister among others. I'm sure he remembers what a struggle it was to compete with the lesser QB's. I'm pretty sure he evaluates Campbell to be closer to the Bubby Brister end of that talent scale. If Shanny has an opportunity to get a QB who gives him a chance to win, he should take it. Clausen should be the pick at #4.

Posted by: coparker5 | March 30, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Left tackle, 2nd choice,left tackle.

Posted by: jmy999 | March 30, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Bradford, from what we're hearing, is not the most NFL-ready quarterback. That title probably would go to former Notre Dame standout Jimmy Clausen, who played in a pro-style offense. Charlie Weis proved to be hopelessly overmatched as a head coach, but he does know a lot about offense, and Clausen probably benefited from his three-year experience with Weis. Bradford worked in a spread offense at Oklahoma and likely will have some catching up to do to get to where Clausen already is in terms of his understanding of pro-style offenses, blocking schemes, etc
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So while would the Skins want to lose draft picks to the Rams to trade up when they can get Clausen by standing pat??? Franchise QB is the most important position to fill.. and this article says Shanahan doesn't think Campbell can be the guy (Shanahan is so RIGHT). Let the Rams have Bradford.. draft Clausen and have a franchise QB in Washington for the next 10 to 15 years... (BTW nix the idea of Campbell staying for a year.. Grossman can do that.. Campbell needs to go.)

Posted by: sovine08 | March 30, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Stop with the praising of Shanahan, the man had John Elway he should have won!
Even though Elway were playing with kids ten years younger than he. lol
How many did he win after John Elway retired? Posted by: SOLVBACK
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How many did Elway win before Shanahan showed up?? To need a star Head coach and a star QB.. We have the head coach we need the QB. Campbell is NOT IT!!! Draft Clausen, use the 2nd pick for OL and trade Campbell for another pick and use that on the OL to...

Posted by: sovine08 | March 30, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

What about Colt Brennan? He's already on the Redskins... He's a young QB with two years of bench experience that Shanahan could mold and mentor into the next John Elway or Steve Young. Brennan proved to be a great college QB with a rifle of an arm and the accuracy of a marksman sniper. In fact, Brennan broke just about every NCAA passing record in his senior year in college and would be a perfect fit for Shanahan's type of passing offense. Why waste money on another young QB in the draft when you inherited a young gunslinger like Colt Brennan?
Posted by: Hawaiian
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I like Colt to but I think he will have to impress the pants off Shanahan in mini camp for Mike not to pick a QB (Clausen) in the 4th spot. But I think Shanahan will keep him. Trade Campbell (he'll want out after Clausen is signed to a big contract anyway) and Colt can then compete with Grossman for who starts the year.. Colt starts and plays really well the Skins will have a great guy to keep or trade in future..

Posted by: sovine08 | March 30, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

folks sure JC did not have a lot of time behind a bad line, but JC did not help his line either by making quicker throws anytime the QB makes quicker, throws not only that helps the line it keeps the pass rush in check, the biggest flaws in JC's games are quick throws and leadership in the position otherwise anyone of the other teams would have given up a first rounder for him think about that for a minute.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | March 30, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Ok...if you could combine the posts from brett4 (12:59 PM) and Hawaiian (1:16 PM), that would have read my mind perfectly. Those were the two exact things I was going to say!
If Shanny wants to mold a young QB, look no further than our existing roster! Take a proven college record breaking QB and put him under the mastermind tutelage of Mike Shanahan and into a powerful, fast-paced, high scoring offensive system that Kyle Shanahan will bring with him from Houston and you could transition Colt Brennan from the statistically best college QB to the best NFL QB!
We just need to focus our first 2 draft picks on Okung and the next best available tackle to make up for not going that way in the previous years' drafts and FA periods. Keep Colt standing and there's no reason he couldn't be great.
At least let him learn as "The Guy" this first year as Campbell or Grossman run the show year 1. He can hold the clipboard and stand next to Kyle during practices and game days to make sure they are sharing the same mindset before the end of the season, so he can take over starting day 1 of 2011 season (if not sooner)
PLEASE don't draft QB this year.

HTTR

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | March 30, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

OVERRATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: kbourgault2000 | March 30, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I've said it before but in my dreams they trade their 2nd rounder for Gaither and even still draft Okung at #4 - two best bookends in the league.

Posted by: XCountryTrevor | March 30, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"Shanahan played a big role in the success of Hall of Fame quarterback John Elway, arguably the best to ever play the position."

Only a fool would make that argument.

Reid, go watch Super Bowl 22 and recall the REAL Elway, the one with 226 interceptions, the one who probably cost the Broncos more titles than he caused.

Jurgensen, Baugh, Theismann and Kilmer were better than Elway, to name a few.

I'm not biased either.

Draft Okung and Ducasse!

Posted by: kcc1 | March 30, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

The Two Degrees is the best nickname hands down. Oh BTW, DRAFT O-Linemen early and often! PLEASE!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | March 30, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

if shananhan likes bradford,

GO GET BRADFORD

campbell is not that good people!!!!!!

what is campbell going to do - go from a bad qb to a avg qb>?

if shananhan sees something in braford, he has my vote. solid qb's do not come around often.
i beleive this article 100% when it states that shanahan already knows that campbell is not his qb - you can tell by the quotes he has come out with.
i like campbell as a person, he is a stand up guy who has handled everything with class, but its not the type of qb that mike wants.
its either bradford or okung
go skins

Posted by: ecartola | March 31, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

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