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Missed kicks leave Suisham with 'awful' feeling

Washington Redskins kicker Shaun Suisham entered Sunday's game against the Dallas Cowboys a perfect 12-for-12 on field-goal attempts this year. But after the Redskins' difficult 7-6 loss, Suisham spent time answering questions about his first two misses -- either of which could have won the game for the Redskins.

"I feel awful," Suisham said. "The guys worked so hard today. You got a tight game like that, and you miss a couple field goals, it's very frustrating and disappointing."

The first miss came well within Suisham's range, a 39-yarder at the end of the first half which Suisham hooked wide left. The play, though, came after a great deal of confusion in which the officiating crew took an inordinate amount of time to review whether Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell had thrown an incompletion before he stepped out of bounds on the prior play. The officials also seemed befuddled about whether they would then assess the Redskins a delay-of-game penalty.

After a delay of perhaps 10 minutes, Washington got the ball at the 21 yard line with 15 seconds left -- and Suisham missed for the first time this season.

"That's no excuse to miss a kick," Suisham said. "It's different, yes, but it's certainly no reason to miss."

During the delay, Suisham went to the sideline and kicked a couple of balls into a net.
"Obviously, I didn't handle it well, because I missed," he said. "That was not the reason I missed the kick."

Suisham did, however, convert a 45-yarder in the second quarter to give the Redskins a 3-0 lead at the half, and he later provided a 6-0 lead with a 31-yarder. In four seasons with the Redskins, Suisham is now 47 of 52 from inside 40 yards.

His last kick, however, came from outside that range. With just more than seven minutes remaining and the Redskins clinging to the 6-0 advantage, Suisham lined up for a 50-yarder. Make it, and the Redskins would have been up two scores against a Dallas offense that had struggled all day. Suisham stood over the kick 3 of 8 from 50 yards and beyond in his career, but the kick sailed wide right, and the Cowboys drove 60 yards for their the touchdown that was enough to win the game..

"We have no choice other than to move on and get ready for next week," Suisham said. "But man I wish we would've made those kicks."

Rogers tries to just be 'ready'

Fred Smoot started in place of Carlos Rogers, who was benched in last week's victory over Denver. Rogers had started every game this season.

"No one that's started as many games as I did would like to be benched," Rogers said afterward. "Like I said, there's nothing I can do about it, just sit on the sidelines. When my name's called, just be ready. I could have a different mindset about it, just like [forget] this or [forget] that, and then when my name's called, I'm not ready."

Rogers saw action when starting cornerback DeAngelo Hall went down with a bruised knee after recovering a fumble in the first quarter. But the Redskins' regular rotation included Hall and Smoot with second-year player Justin Tryon seeing time when they went to five defensive backs.

By Barry Svrluga  |  November 22, 2009; 7:40 PM ET
 
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except Zorn's not really trying to, is he?

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | November 22, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse


You mean Sherm Lewis.

We stripped our head coach of head coaching authority on gameday, remember?

Posted by: p1funk | November 22, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

It was my understanding Zorn was stripped of play calling. I assume it was his decision to kick instead of throw one into the end zone. Anybody know for sure?

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | November 22, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | November 22, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't really blame Shaun.

And though the Junkies have booed him, I really love the heart that Rock Cartwright is playing with. He is a true Redskin. I love to see these guys step up who've maybe been in the shadows, but who have been with the team forever.

Still, I really don't care about the skins anymore. Passion's just not there. And those uniforms don't help.

Posted by: sugarstreet | November 22, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Wharever happened to that Vanderjack guy that used to kick for Indy?

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | November 22, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | November 22, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Zorn makes the call on when to go on fourth when to kick or not.

He was stripped of play calling not head coach choices.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 22, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Daggar & Curzon 417...

Jason Brown was right on about 92. He lays on the ground twice a game and it's tough to tell when he's playing possum and when he's really hurt. Typically he's too winded to get off the field. 20-25 plays a game is what he will avg @ season end considering he never plays a full season.

I know Vinny and and Snyder haven't drafted a OL in the top 2 rounds since 2000 but you can agree that the money spent is misguided.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 7:48 PM

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

5-10 years ago after a loss like this I would be drunk right now... I just cant care anymore.

All Red Uniforms 0-2

Posted by: alex35332 | November 22, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

vegasjim, vandrjagt? Please. Guy is a tool.

Re Zorn and playcalling /coaching. He has been incrementally taking back more and more of the calling. Two minutes, pressure situations... you know, the ones today when the play calling was especially stupid. The 3/2 draw, the 1/10 TO embarrassment, failing to take a shot at end of first half, these were the most glaring of his errors today.

If it was me, I'd fire his azz and make Danny Smith interim HC. Blache ain't suited, Buges is past his time, better to keep Gray where he is, and let SLewis and SSmith run the offense.

Danny at least would keep his TOs in his pocket until he needed them, and is a good in game tactician as evidenced by his advising Zorn to save him from his own incompetence earlier this year.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 22, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

It's alright Suisham - we don't expect you to make those kicks anyway. Don't feel bad man. At least you didn't kick any kickoffs out of bounds. Good game man.

Posted by: coparker5 | November 22, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Wharever happened to that Vanderjack guy that used to kick for Indy?

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | November 22, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse
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He's up to a keg a day in Canada somewhere.

Posted by: clark202 | November 22, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Looking ahead to the final six:

11/29 @ Eagles
12/6 VS Saints
12/13 @ Raiders
12/21 VS Giants
12/27 VS Cowboys
1/3 @ Chargers

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 22, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

vegasjim, vandrjagt? Please. Guy is a tool.

Re Zorn and play calling /coaching. He has been incrementally taking back more and more of the calling. Two minutes, pressure situations... you know, the ones today when the play calling was especially stupid. The 3/2 draw, the 1/10 TO embarrassment, failing to take a shot at end of first half, these were the most glaring of his errors today.

If it was me, I'd fire his azz and make Danny Smith interim HC. Blache ain't suited, Buges is past his time, better to keep Gray where he is, and let SLewis and SSmith run the offense.

Danny at least would keep his TOs in his pocket until he needed them, and is a good in game tactician as evidenced by his advising Zorn to save him from his own incompetence earlier this year.


Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 22, 2009 7:58 PM

I agree. Zorn has to go...Even with his limited role he still finds a way to prevent a win. He is calling more plays each week and during the press conference talked about how he couldn't get the play in a timely manner so they were forced to use a TO. It's so evident when he takes over the play calling and his personnel decisions are abysmal. He needs a even further reduced role, he should watch the game from his couch.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Danny at least would keep his TOs in his pocket until he needed them, and is a good in game tactician as evidenced by his advising Zorn to save him from his own incompetence earlier this year.


Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 22, 2009 7:58 PM

I agree. Is it just me or isn't it a mark of a competent coach to keep them timeouts in the 2nd half till the end of the game as a emergency thing?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 22, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

OAK win means we have a chance to move up higher in the race for the picks next spring.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 22, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Alex, he called that TO on 1/10 with Campbell at the line ready to run a play. Its just incredibly stubborn, arrogant, small minded and generally stupid.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 22, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what happened there, but it seemed like he called that time out because Zorn did not know the play.

After that loss I would be cool with Zorn being fired again.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 22, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Looking ahead to the final six:

11/29 @ Eagles
12/6 VS Saints
12/13 @ Raiders
12/21 VS Giants
12/27 VS Cowboys
1/3 @ Chargers
Posted by: MistaMoe | November 22, 2009 8:05 PM | R

I would like them to sweep the NFC East.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

LOL, yeah that's a good way to put it... every body but Zorn knew what was up, so Zorn called a TO. JC was pointing at his wristband to tell him the play, LOL. What a F'ing Dooooosssshhhhh.

They should fire him and put him in charge of attending player medical procedures. He could get two in this week.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 22, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is complete failure at even his reduced responsibilities...He needs to be fired so that at the very least he will not insert 82 in as punt returner.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Zorn makes the call on when to go on fourth when to kick or not.

He was stripped of play calling not head coach choices.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 22, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse


Are you sure?

It was my understanding that he had an advise and consent role on those decisions, but they were made primarily through referendum, unless the referendum was less than 2/3 of the votes submitted, and in that case it went to a special committee of Vinny, Chris Meidt, Tom Cruise and Haynesworth's mom to decide.

Posted by: p1funk | November 22, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I knew Suisham would falter when we needed him. I do blame him for this loss.

Damn! F DALLAS

Posted by: dcwun | November 22, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

CUT HIM

Posted by: mjwies11 | November 22, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I would like them to sweep the NFC East.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse


Really?

Why?

So that Snerratto can stand up at the end of the season and tell us how much momentum we had gained after a rough start, and that we are actaully on the right track, and that we are only 1 Chad Ochocinco trade away from winning it all?

No, I'd like us to get crushed by the remaining NFC East teams, so that this whole nicompoop project and its nincompoop coaches and nincompoop Exec VP that put it all together can get dragged out into the corn-field and clubbed a-la Casino.

Posted by: p1funk | November 22, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

"I feel awful," Suisham said.

Good. You're an incompetent schmuck. You should feel awful.

Posted by: p1funk | November 22, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

"But man I wish we would've made those kicks."

We?

Of course, by "we" you actually mean yourself. You and you alone are the one that missed those kicks, you loser.

Posted by: p1funk | November 22, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

You can blame Suisham for this loss or you can blame Snyder and Vinny for this and the other six. I chose the latter...

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

How about Charlie Weis as the Skins head coach next year? He's got a pro background. He headed up a pretty good offense in New England. Danny could keep Vinny cause Weis ain't going to be in position to be demanding any kind of authority. Weis could bring in Romeo to be his D-coordinator.

Posted by: coparker5 | November 22, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse


The problem with that idea is that we'd still need a head coach.

Hiring Weis gives us a serial cheater who had the benefit of a ProBowl QB to cheat with, but that doesn't fill the vacuum on this team for actual coaching.

Posted by: p1funk | November 22, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

They lost (again) because:

1. Zorn interposes himself into situations at the least opportune times, and always seems to make things worse when he does (the end of the first half being a perfect example - he doesn't take a shot on 3rd down, and then compounds that error by freezing his own kicker).

2. Suisham missing from 39 yards.

3. A QB who never CREATES a play to help his team win. And who invariably lets them down when given a chance to lead a game-winning drive.

For 2010 I expect Jim Zorn-GONE, Vinny Cerrato-GONE, and Jason Campbell-GONE.

Anyone who suggests they keep Zorn, Vinny, or re-sign that scrub QB is a masochist.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Really?

Why?

So that Snerratto can stand up at the end of the season and tell us how much momentum we had gained after a rough start, and that we are actaully on the right track, and that we are only 1 Chad Ochocinco trade away from winning it all?

No, I'd like us to get crushed by the remaining NFC East teams, so that this whole nicompoop project and its nincompoop coaches and nincompoop Exec VP that put it all together can get dragged out into the corn-field and clubbed a-la Casino.

Posted by: p1funk | November 22, 2009 8:35 PM

Anything less than 8-8 will not stop what change is destined for this team. Snyder listens to what players like Hanyesworth and CP tell him that this team is talented. The fact the JZ cannot get them to play seals both Zorn's and Vinny's fate with the team. To get the coach Snyder wants, Vinny will have to have a more low profile position within the organization.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

The Thoughts of a Forward Thinking Fan:

SkinsfaninKaneohe,
"OAK win means we have a chance to move up higher in the race for the picks next spring."


We'll be right there with the Lions and Browns when that pick comes.

Given the issues related to injury in the redskins' offensive line and backfield, what that pick is will be all we'll chat about.

I'll wager the team will think its offensive line issues can be settled via free agency.

This means it'll look at its two 30 year old backs and 'superstar' who doesn't like to practice, and pick the running back it wants.

Thing is, a lineman or two will be what it needs.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 22, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 8:47 PM

I completely agree. I would also add 82,93,& 26 on the same bus out of town.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

defeat out of the jaws of victory

Posted by: miked4 | November 22, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

defeat out of the jaws of victory

Posted by: miked4 | November 22, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

They need to take a OT with the first pick.

But I hope they take Blount if he falls to the second round.

Then they can get rid of Portis as well as Zorn, Vinny and Campbell.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who suggests they keep Zorn, Vinny, or re-sign that scrub QB is a masochist.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 8:47 PM |

Couldn't resist not taking a shot at anyone who dares oppose your opinion Huh? At least your post shows that you're voice has actually dropped, and you've grown a facial hair or two.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm upset over the conservative, let's play for three points instead of taking shots when the Dallas D was vulnerable. I don't put full blame on the one guy who going into this year was fighting for a job, winning it, going 12/12, and being the only brightspot on an otherwise crap season. Conservative play calling, also known as let's not turn the ball over and at least get some points out of these drives, is what irkes me.

Posted by: lurgee5177 | November 22, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Anyone pinning this loss on Campbell must not have been watching the same game as me. He was 10 of 10 on third down passes, many of which were third and long attempts. His weak offensive line got even worse when Rinehart who was playing pretty well broke his leg in the 3rd quarter. He put the team in position to score four field goals, but Suisham missed both of them when one would have given the Redskins a victory.

Did Zorn play a little too conservatively at the end of the half and on 3 and 2? Maybe, but Campbell was being hurried on almost every throw and there was good chance he would get sacked which would result in the loss of a field goal chance. The margin of error for the Redskins was so slim, it was a credit that the defense had them in position to win.

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 22, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

six effing points

beyond pathetic

your D holds hated rival to 7 points and you still LOSE! god I hate this quarterback and this offense. and I hate Danny the Jerk and his robot Cerratblow, but I really really hate this quarterback. what a loser.

Posted by: greatteamdan | November 22, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

But I hope they take Blount if he falls to the second round.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 8:54 PM

Great. Let's spend a high draft pick on someone who will most likely be available in the 5th or 6th round. Brilliant. You realize they will be a ton of talented RBs in the second round who actually doesn't have red flags blaring off them.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Draft Board:
1st OT
2nd OG
3rd Supplemental pick for Jarmon..good choice, kid needs to start instead of 93
4th RB/QB/DB
5th OLB/MLB
6th Punter...no hopefully Vinny will be gonzo...OL
7th RB/WR/DB...This is where we have had moderate success/luck under vinny

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't resist not taking a shot at anyone who dares oppose your opinion Huh? At least your post shows that you're voice has actually dropped, and you've grown a facial hair or two.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 8:58 PM |
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You're paranoid.

But if you want to explain why you'd want Jim Zorn, Vinny Cerrato or Jason Campbell back in 2010, go right ahead.

I'm sure the other RI readers could use a laugh.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Great. Let's spend a high draft pick on someone who will most likely be available in the 5th or 6th round. Brilliant. You realize they will be a ton of talented RBs in the second round who actually doesn't have red flags blaring off them.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:05 PM |
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No reason to believe he'll fall to the 5th or 6th round at this point.

However, it's quite clear that I've gotten under your skin like a bad rash and now you're lashing out at every post...lol

Keep the chuckles coming, kiddo.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

About Campbell,

I do feel that with the game on the line and a drive is needed to win the game that he won't get the job done.

I also feel though that as a quarterback, he is a keeper. Somehow my guts tell me that he is able to get the job done. However, right now he isn't.

Is it because of Zorn or Campbell himself, I don't really know, but my vote is to keep Campbell.

I am with the folks who don't feel that Suisham is the blame for this lose.

I also am glad to see that I am not the only who saw that Zorn cannot leave well enough alone and he fooked this game up.

After the bye week, I said he still should have been fired. The pundits say you really can't fire the coach at that point. After this game, I still say he needs to be fired to get his incompetent meddling butt out of the way.

There is no way, he should be allowed to continue to screw up the hard work and what little good can come from the rest of this season.

And to that guy that keep talking about losing games for the draft. You need to be fired along with Zorn.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 22, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

True P1FUNK
Notre Dame didnt know that Weis' success with the Pats was contributed in large part to having the defensive signals ahead of time through Belichicks video staff videotaping Def signals. Guess it showed up rather quickly when he left the Pats..

Ummm for that matter, Belichick hasnt won a playoff game since he was caught cheating and the NFL instituted headset communication for opposing team's Defensive Captains and the Defensive Coordinator to prevent the signal stealing.

++++++++++++++

The problem with that idea is that we'd still need a head coach.

Hiring Weis gives us a serial cheater who had the benefit of a ProBowl QB to cheat with, but that doesn't fill the vacuum on this team for actual coaching.

Posted by: p1funk | November 22, 2009 8:47 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | November 22, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

But if you want to explain why you'd want Jim Zorn, Vinny Cerrato or Jason Campbell back in 2010, go right ahead.

I'm sure the other RI readers could use a laugh.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:06 PM

I won't make the case for the first two. The case for JC would be determined by the new GM (hopeflly), and the new HC. One thing even you can't deny is that JC is going to be one of the better FA QB this year (yes, it a weak class). If the new HC decides he'd rather keep JC have compete to start, and build the OL, RB, LB, CB, FS, DE positions first, I won't crucify him for it.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I like Swiss Hammie, but he sure choked Mamma Cass at a bad moment..4-6 is within playoff range much more than 3-7...Cincinnati does not deserve to be in the Top Ten, I saw that game, West Virginia got jobbed at that goalline fumble , Sin City should be about 18th in the nation..."Scrape the lips across a ragged tongue-uh".."Professor Four-Eye, you write de news.."

Posted by: frak | November 22, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

LarryInClintonMD watch out, MrRedskin21 is about to have a hissy fit over your post.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

It won't matter who the GM (if there is one, and I hope there is) or HC is in 2010, Campbell is GONE.

And the reason is simple: The owner doesn't like Campbell's sub-par play any more than the average (intelligent) fan does.

But don't worry. I'm sure Jason will have numerous suitors lining up to make him big $$$$ offers to be a backup. With a resume like his, he can write his own ticket.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I suppose the Dallas defense had nothing to do with the Redskins offense playing poorly. Dallas is the number 7 scoring defense in the league. But it is always about how poorly the Redskins play.

Posted by: lifelongfan | November 22, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

No reason to believe he'll fall to the 5th or 6th round at this point.

However, it's quite clear that I've gotten under your skin like a bad rash and now you're lashing out at every post...lol

Keep the chuckles coming, kiddo.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:09 PM

Really I guess most of the draft sights that have listed as 7-FA draft pick is wrong and you're right. I get it.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

And the reason is simple: The owner doesn't like Campbell's sub-par play any more than the average (intelligent) fan does.

But don't worry. I'm sure Jason will have numerous suitors lining up to make him big $$$$ offers to be a backup. With a resume like his, he can write his own ticket.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:16 PM

So your advocating that Snyder has a say over player personnel. I thought you were a real RI hamster.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Really I guess most of the draft sights that have listed as 7-FA draft pick is wrong and you're right. I get it.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:17 PM |
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Which credible sites have Blount as a 5th or 6th round pick (as you suggested)?

Before he threw the punch, he was the second RB on Mel Kiper's Big Board.

Go argue with Kiper.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

So your advocating that Snyder has a say over player personnel. I thought you were a real RI hamster.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:18 PM |
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Are you really as dense as your posts indicate?

Of COURSE Snyder has a say re personnel. He signs the checks for one thing. For another, he has personal relationships with some of the players (See Clinton Portis, the once stud-runner-turned-slacker and Danny BFF who I suggest they replace with Blount).

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I am curious about the hate for Zorn. With the exception of whether or not they should have tried a pass with 15 sec and no timeouts and blowing one time out, what did he do wrong?

Posted by: lifelongfan | November 22, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Which credible sites have Blount as a 5th or 6th round pick (as you suggested)?

Before he threw the punch, he was the second RB on Mel Kiper's Big Board.

Go argue with Kiper.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:19 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2010_RB


The same with sportingnews and espn. But hey what do they know.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I do feel that with the game on the line and a drive is needed to win the game that he won't get the job done......................my vote is to keep Campbell.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 22, 2009 9:10 PM

What?? You enjoy losing? We can't wait anymore to see if Campbell will become a starting NFL QB. Without having to rehash all the obvious, let's just all agree Campbell doesn't have it and will not take this team to the promised land. Is it entirely his fault? No. This team needs a top-to-bottom flushing. But trying to hang onto proven under achievement only prolongs the agony.

Posted by: bones21 | November 22, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Are you really as dense as your posts indicate?

Of COURSE Snyder has a say re personnel. He signs the checks for one thing. For another, he has personal relationships with some of the players (See Clinton Portis, the once stud-runner-turned-slacker and Danny BFF who I suggest they replace with Blount).

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:22 PM

So you're satisfied with the meddling owner. You're an interesting dude.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

The same with sportingnews and espn. But hey what do they know.


Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:26 PM |
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That link is post-punch.

Go back and see where they had him pre-punch, just as Kiper did.

Personally, I couldn't care less that he punched out some yahoo braggart in a college game.

It shows me he has heart, which is more than I can say for some Redskins players these days, especially Clinton "I Don't Have To Practice" Portis.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

marcus mason anyone?

Posted by: skinsst21 | November 22, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

At this point, I fail to see what the crying is about regarding this loss. MOst of us felt the Redskins wouldn't wint his game. Had I told you that Haynesworth would not play, CR would break his leg midgame and Betts would be out for the game early, most of you would be saying the Skins would be cooked.

Despite those things, they had the lead the entire game and lost by 1 point. They made mistakes that a team with a record of 3-6 typically makes: no surprise there. Dallas needed this game, and were fortunate to win.

Instead of praise for their efforts in light of the knowledge that this team simply isn't good, most of what I read is whining about how awful JC was, which is ridiculous, and even some comments on how the defense can't make a stop when we really need it, which is silly beyond belief.

If you can't at least acknowledge a great effort in light of the circumstances, then why do you even bother watching the games?

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 22, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

MrRedskin21 did you take the Vinny C. online course for moronic drafting? You don't draft someone in the 2nd when he'll be available 4 rounds later doesn't make sense. It's not logical. Never mind.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Any coach worth his salt would have tried to get at least 1 throw into te end zone with 15 seconds to go. The Refs froze the kicker and Zorn's brain. I mean at 3 and 6, why not take a shot in the end zone. Jason Campbell has about QB ability as a muffin, he's got that deer in the headlight's look. If he just throw the ball away, the Redskins would have had 21 seconds instead of 15 seconds on the clocck.
The burning of timeouts, confusion and I was glad to see Comcast cut away from the Zorn's Press Conference. But ir goes right to the heart of the matter, Zorn is not a decent Coodinater, HEad Coach, you got to be kidding me. Jason Campbell is a second string QB at best. Oh JC has the Physical tools, but he has no heart with the game on the line, he shrinks into a ball of mush. Greg Blache let his defense down each week he has a defensive end playing linebacker. Also all you Big Al haters, even with him, this was a game that he could have made a difference. But my hat goes to Edwin williams he is a gamer. But on the lighter side, mu Wife has never like Jason Campbell and I asked her why, she said simply, "He's always looks scared and looks out of place". And I thought she didn't know anything about football.

Posted by: butche106 | November 22, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

If you can't at least acknowledge a great effort in light of the circumstances, then why do you even bother watching the games?

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 22, 2009 9:30 PM |
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I can and do acknowledge a great effort by the Redskins defense (one of many this season).

But there was nothing great about the effort from the offense, not the play-calling, not the weirdo coaching decisions, and not the QB, who was unable to lead his team into the end zone even once, and who turned the ball over when he had a chance to prove himself on a potential game-winning drive.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

MrRedskin21 did you take the Vinny C. online course for moronic drafting? You don't draft someone in the 2nd when he'll be available 4 rounds later doesn't make sense. It's not logical. Never mind.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:35 PM |
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Well, we'll both be around in April, so we'll just see where Blount ends up going then.

My guess is long before the 5th round; likely the late second round. And hopefully to Washington.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Larry

"Is it because of Zorn or Campbell himself, I don't really know, but my vote is to keep Campbell."

My vote is to keep both.

And RI bloggas can laugh all they want.

Jason Campbell got hit and he made some solid throws today.

It's not his fault his running backs are hurt and his offensive line terrible.

It is his fault that he has left points on the field.

His getting up after getting hit is what makes the redskin defense see its efforts are not in vain.

The season is disappointing, and he played as hard today as we've seen all year.

It's Campbell's contract year.

To me, he's earned the right to hold the spot warm until the offensive line is rebuilt and his replacement q-back is drafted.

For now, he and Sherm and Zorn can build on what the offense is morphing into: a two-tight end, power running group that makes plays on third down and gets long drives.

Let's endorse the idea that building thoughfully and maintaining contiunity is the right way to fix the ten year broken redskin offense.

Let's Keep Zorn, Campbell, and Sherm Lewis.

And you can laugh at that idea all you want.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 22, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Are you really as dense as your posts indicate?

Of COURSE Snyder has a say re personnel. He signs the checks for one thing. For another, he has personal relationships with some of the players (See Clinton Portis, the once stud-runner-turned-slacker and Danny BFF who I suggest they replace with Blount).

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:22 PM

I was going to let this go, but this has been sticking with me. If Snyder has that much sway on the make up of the team that JC is irregardless of what the new HC, or GM wants then it won't work. IMO this is not the owners domain. Especially with the QB, the HC must have the guys on the team that he wants to compete with the starting spot. I'm not saying it's JC, but Snyder should not make that call. That is all.

Posted by: TWISI | November 22, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Mista

Thanks...you did make me laugh.

Posted by: bones21 | November 22, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

There is only one reason you keep Campbell and that only happens if 2010 is uncapped. Try to get a pick for him.

You tender JC since he will be an RFA next year. If he signs elsewhere, then Skins get a pick. If not (more likely scenario), then he competes for the QB position (something he has never had to do).

The reality is that Zorn is ruining this QB and the rest of the offense and he needs to go.

At the very least, his headset needs to be taken away from him on game days. And he should not be allowed to call timeouts.

Posted by: Skins930 | November 22, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Let's Keep Zorn, Campbell, and Sherm Lewis.

And you can laugh at that idea all you want.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 22, 2009 9:42 PM

That is laughable. Too your point it doesn't matter who plays QB with Zorn and this OLINE. I agree Campbell played better than usually but was still inaccurate and failed yet again when it mattered.

It's obvious to most that they need to bring in a GM, have the GM hire a coach and then determine whether JC is a short term answer. He is 29 and has more chances then most to prove he is a failure, however I don't want to waste out top pick on QB when we clearly need a replacement for Samuels. Sign him to a two year deal and build a line, he wont have any offers for starter money and with a new staff he would be wise to come back.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

The other thought I had is how the win against Denver gave the Skins false hopes. Denver is the 2009 version of our very own 2008 Skins. Hot team til their coach is figured out. Like the Skins last year, Denver is falling apart and losing to the lowly Skins was akin to some of the Skins loses last year to teams they should have beat.

And Denver continued its slide today.

Posted by: Skins930 | November 22, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to keep an open mind, but I just don't see enough to build on here. Campbell has regressed, and is making too many bad dreads (dump-offs). I do think he played bravely today, but that is not enough to change my mind. We had the ball with 2:00 left and all we needed was a FG and we never came close...again.

Watching other teams with functional offenses is all you need to see to realize that JC17 is nothing more than a back up.

No to Zorn and the WCO. Power football is what's working here. Let get someone in here who understands that. Not Shanahan, or Holmgren or Chucky or any of those other finesse coaches.

I'm liking Russ Grimm, myself.

Hail!

Posted by: edvar | November 22, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Any idiot (Zorn) who doesn't take a shot in the end zone with 15 sec. left and elects for a field goal (attempt) doesn't have a pair and should be gone by tomorrow. How much more dysfunctional can we get? Danny, come on man!

Posted by: pdsuter | November 22, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

We have another set of eyes. We have somebody else calling the plays. We have (had) a better running back (Betts). We still can't score TD's. The defense can only do so much. Blame he kicker, I don't think so. That's a cop-out. WE still have the SAME QB. Think about it. Put the blame where it deserves to be put. Jason is not the teams FUTURE!!!!

Posted by: doughboy96 | November 22, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys are who we thought they were. And we let them off the hook!!

Posted by: ga8085 | November 22, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Suisham was flying the team plane back to Dulles and he went wide left and landed in Philadelphia. Unbelievable loss, still in disbelief...What a clusterF this organization is from the top down.

Posted by: regis429 | November 22, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm liking Russ Grimm, myself.
Hail!

Posted by: edvar | November 22, 2009 10:19 PM

I've like Grimm for the last hire but he didn't even get an interview. I'd like to think that he will get a shot but after Zorn I'm convinced that Danny wants a big name. He doesn't realize that a big name would be a competent GM and Grimm as HC.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Well, we'll both be around in April, so we'll just see where Blount ends up going then.

My guess is long before the 5th round; likely the late second round. And hopefully to Washington.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 22, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

No way Blount goes in the second. He hasn't played all year and with questionable character issues, I'll guarantee right now he won't go in the 2nd

Posted by: ga8085 | November 22, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Sigh ... forget Grimm people. If the Danny couldn't get a long with Grilliams I doubt he would have any better success with Grimm. Believe me.

Posted by: periculum | November 22, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Why do you say that, Per?

Posted by: edvar | November 22, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Put the blame where it deserves to be put. Jason is not the teams FUTURE!!!!

Posted by: doughboy96 | November 22, 2009

Boy your teachers must have loved you when you were a kid? Like beating on guys when they are down and out? Look moron, the guy was and US A LAMEDUCK before the season started. Now he is joined by his headcoach. Considering the CL*&^TER-F this organization is from top-to-bottom what they accomplished Sunday in Dallas is just short of incredible.
The moronic imbeciles on the blog .. sheesh

Posted by: periculum | November 22, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Why do you say that, Per?
Posted by: edvar | November 22, 2009

One of the indepth analysis segments done here claimed that Danny was completely dismayed by the thought of Grilliams as head coach. Reminded him too much of Marty-ball. Felt they would never see eye-to-eye so they left him hanging ... just like Norv in that cold hallway for 3 hours.

Grimm is an in your face kind of guy. He is not going to be any better than a grilliams when it comes to telling it like it is. And wanting things a certain way.

Although he may be a lot better than Riggins.

Posted by: periculum | November 22, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

The brass tax bottom-line here is that it isn't Zorn, it isn't Campbell, and it isn't Cerrato. These are all symptoms of a virulent form of cancer known as Daniel Snyder esq.

Posted by: periculum | November 22, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

@pdsuter - I remember a few weeks back when Zorn went with the "have a pair call" and it backfired and we were left with nothing against Detroit. Considering the amount of pressure Campbell was facing, if the Cowboys loaded up and got a sack, we would not have had time to get Suisham on the field for a FG chance. In a game were it was obvious that points were at an extreme premium, I can't take issue with his call. The FG later and the play leading up to that FG try were both questionable in my opinion, considering we gave the Cowboys great field position to start their winning drive, but the first one was not a big deal.

Posted by: The_Spear | November 22, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

You may be right. Sadly, that's exactly why we need a guy like Grimm.

Posted by: edvar | November 22, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

It is unbelievable that some would still blame JC for this one too. The dude converted something like 10 for 10 on third downs with most being for a first down.

Look at the real reasons why we lost and stop making this dude the target for everything.

Posted by: dcwun | November 22, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe, I can see where you are coming from and I was once a strong Zorn supporter. I thought he was a smart guy.

However, he clearly isn't. Micromanaging can be a good thing. It becomes a bad thing when you don't know the difference between managing and meddling.

He is the HC but he stills meddles with the play calling that was taken away from him under the guise of HC decisions.

He has had chance after chance to make good HC decisions and he continually makes the same mistakes.

Zorn has to go.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 22, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

We have another set of eyes. We have somebody else calling the plays. We have (had) a better running back (Betts). We still can't score TD's. The defense can only do so much. Blame he kicker, I don't think so. That's a cop-out. WE still have the SAME QB. Think about it. Put the blame where it deserves to be put. Jason is not the teams FUTURE!!!!

Posted by: doughboy96

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read today. The kicker misses a 39 yarder and its still the fault of the QB.

Sometimes I think we deserved all of the bums that have started for us over the last 14 years.

Posted by: dcwun | November 22, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

am curious about the hate for Zorn. With the exception of whether or not they should have tried a pass with 15 sec and no timeouts and blowing one time out, what did he do wrong?

Posted by: lifelongfan | November 22, 2009 9:25 PM

Those were two critical decisions in the game. Taking a shot to the endzone ten out of ten times, Teams would have done in the same situation.

Everybody was on he same page but him, but he calls a time out because he was out in left field. There was no confusion on the field. And this was an AOR that he has been relieved of.

Looking at his history they are evidenturary of his continued incompetence.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 22, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Skins fans rejoice....Thanks to the ineptness of our front office we didn't have the resources to trade for Cutler or trade up for Sanchez. Campbell is hardly an upgrade but those two would have sacked us for years to come.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I do feel that with the game on the line and a drive is needed to win the game that he won't get the job done......................my vote is to keep Campbell.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 22, 2009 9:10 PM

What?? You enjoy losing? We can't wait anymore to see if Campbell will become a starting NFL QB. Without having to rehash all the obvious, let's just all agree Campbell doesn't have it and will not take this team to the promised land. Is it entirely his fault? No. This team needs a top-to-bottom flushing. But trying to hang onto proven under achievement only prolongs the agony.

Posted by: bones21 | November 22, 2009 9:27 PM

Bones21, the argument can be made that JC isn't the QB for the Redskins. However, that argument is based on opinion moreso than fact from the field.

I see bad things on the field from JC, but the good things I see from Jason on the field makes him a keeper for me.

Zorn has changed JC's mechanics on the field a I do believe thats why he misses deep and cannot find open receivers.

Ultimately, though if this is the case it is JC's fault as well.

I do believe after all these years that JC has not had the right coaching philosophy slapped up side his head, if you can understand where I am coming from.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 22, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

You may be right. Sadly, that's exactly why we need a guy like Grimm.

Posted by: edvar | November 22, 2009

Exactly why you will never get him. Its all about Danny not about the team.

Posted by: periculum | November 22, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Moe, I'm not laughing, I couldn't agree more. Give the car a couple more horses and let the driver(s) learn a thing or two from mistakes and experience and see how she runs then.

This doesn't look much like WCO to me. MWCO, just the way I like it. Power running with a short passing game. A dash of play action and...okay, they'll air it out more hopefully--better O-line.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | November 22, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

We can't wait anymore to see if Campbell will become a starting NFL QB. Without having to rehash all the obvious, let's just all agree Campbell doesn't have it and will not take this team to the promised land.

Why even respond to this? Campbell was a LAMEDUCK before the season even started. What part of that don't you understand? Let's just start there stir in a huge helping of crippled offensive line and you have a season that could have easily completely unraveled by now. It still may. The fact that it has not, give that both QB and HC are lame ducks is nothing short of amazing to me.

Posted by: periculum | November 22, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

It is unbelievable that some would still blame JC for this one too. The dude converted something like 10 for 10 on third downs with most being for a first down.

Look at the real reasons why we lost and stop making this dude the target for everything.

Posted by: dcwun | November 22, 2009 11:08 PM

Dude...He played better this week and wasn't the only reason we lost. He was inaccurate as usual and had a chance to win the game and yet once again didn't. He wasn't solely responsible but as always he's in the conversation.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Let's Keep Zorn, Campbell, and Sherm Lewis.

And you can laugh at that idea all you want.

It doesn't matter what "we want". What does matter is that all will be gone and you can bet your bottom dollar on it.

Posted by: periculum | November 22, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

You all keep dollars in your bottom? Dude.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | November 22, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

from the beast:

You can't question the Redskins' effort in this game, but you can question some of the playcalling. To play it conservatively late in the first half was something that bothered me. You're 3-6 and you have the Cowboys on the ropes in their brand new stadium. Take a shot in the end zone on third-and-1 with 15 seconds left. I've tried to defend Zorn at times, but there's no defending him in that situation.

Quarterback Jason Campbell played a really good football game, but it was like Sherm Lewis wouldn't completely show trust in him. The Skins got conservative any time they sniffed the red zone -- and that's a problem. The Redskins called plays like they were scared to death of losing. Give me a break.

This offense honestly played well enough to win. So take some shots. Don't play for field goals. On this day, that strategy came back to haunt Zorn and his playcalling buddy, Sherm Lewis.

When you hold a team to six points, I guess "outstanding" is an appropriate superlative, but the Redskins helped out the Cowboys with missed opportunities and baffling coaching moves. Linebackers London Fletcher and Rocky McIntosh both dropped easy interceptions in the first half that would've given the Redskins the ball inside Cowboys territory. And late in the first half, the Skins' lame-duck coach, Jim Zorn, went conservative for no apparent reason. The Redskins had a third-and-1 at the Cowboys' 21 with 15 seconds left in the first half. Instead of taking a shot at the end zone, Zorn sent the field-goal unit onto the field. Shaun Suisham hooked a 39-yard attempt and the Redskins only had a 3-0 lead at halftime.

Posted by: periculum | November 22, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

From the beast:

It's hard to say that a quarterback played an excellent game in a 7-6 loss, but that's exactly what happened with Jason Campbell. He beat the Cowboys' blitz by finding his receivers on hot routes and somehow shook off outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware to extend plays. His efforts were undermined by a poor effort from Suisham, and a playcaller and head coach who took their feet off the Cowboys' throats at the worst possible moments.

Posted by: periculum | November 22, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Peri, good stuff. Nite, everyone. F Dallas 'n all.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | November 23, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Tough loss... anytime you lose that close, there are a half dozen coulda/woulda/shouldas, you can take your pick on which one matters to you. Bottom line is that the team had a chance to win.

I really want JC to show, once and for all, that he can put the team on his back and carry it over the finish line and win a big game. If he does that, he'll have every right to get paid. He's had plenty of chances. Until he does so, the little problems -- accuracy, decisiveness -- look a lot bigger than the advantages of courage, toughness, power. I still think he's miscast in this offense, but I'm not sold on this offense. [Well, I'm as sold on this offense as I am the coach.]

Posted by: daggar | November 23, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Ultra-Conservative playcalling?

Isn't that what happens when you have 2 playcallers who are both afraid to make a mistake with the ball ... and have the owner stage a nuclear meltdown?

Posted by: periculum | November 23, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Why in this article does our kicker say, "Geez, I wish we'd made those kicks...". Who is the WE in we'd?? Would someone take away the crack pipe, please?

Posted by: Blueslegend | November 23, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

He's had plenty of chances. Until he does so, the little problems -- accuracy, decisiveness -- look a lot bigger than the advantages of courage, toughness, power. I still think he's miscast in this offense, but I'm not sold on this offense.

Daggar, Campbell is gone. Gone, gone. You are throwing epithets, curses, and whatever else at a specter, a ghost. He isn't even really here, neither is Zorn. They are playing for jobs elsewhere not here. We should all be grateful for the herculean effort we saw this Sunday, that they gave in this most thankless and hopeless of seasons.

Posted by: periculum | November 23, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

well, i can't believe anyone would be suprised that suissy missed big field goals...the guy is a choke artist. the defense keeps hanging in there every week. the offense is not getting better. our o line is just a joke, the only time i saw campbell take a 5-7 step drop he got absolutely creamed. really feel bad for jim zorn, but he is in way over his head, and this is coming from a guy who thinks he is the next joe gibbs. ugh and the ravens suck too...maryland sports, hyemp.

Posted by: BMACattack | November 23, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

If the offense had done it's job, people wouldn't be blaming a kicker for missing a 50 yarder, which more kickers miss than make.

Posted by: Redskinrex | November 23, 2009 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Campbell is gone. Gone, gone...
peri, maybe, maybe not. Not under the Daggar GMship, which is the only one I'm qualified to speculate on.

Anyway, I want to see him do it for his sake, not the team's. He's a stand-up guy, works hard, I'd like to see that rewarded.

Posted by: daggar | November 23, 2009 1:00 AM | Report abuse

No body could have foreseen all these injuries piling up on offense. What rotten rotten luck! Things will turn out better next year. Honestly, Washington is just a FA or two away from the Super Bow!

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 23, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

The sequence at the end of the half was a great microcosm of the redskins season. Mind you, the 'key' play in a tight game is not at the end of the first half; but it shows how so many little things add up.
-- JC should have tossed the ball away much earlier. The play was over; making the throw so late that it looked OB was not smart. Also, football is a game of inches, why not keep your lead foot inbounds and remove all doubt? Just not precise enough to win games.
--So after ten minutes of banter, it's third down with 15 seconds to go. There is plenty of time for two plays. But...
But JC has this incredible, annoying habit of taking sacks in this same type of situation (3rd down just outside the red zone). I believe this FACT can be confirmed by members of my family, located in distant corners of the house, when I SCREAM in frustration when he takes a negative play like that.
-- Zorn is only human, knows that the CowPies will bring pressure, and that he can't count on JC to dump the ball off, so he calls for the FG. In general, Zorn seems to linger on these types of failures; Sellers drops a TD pass, no more passes to Sellers.
-- And Suisham fails on the FG. I'd give him a teeny bit of forgiveness because of the incredibly odd circumstances, but kick the damm FG. We do not have any margin for error.
-- The only thing missing was an o-line injury.

Posted by: daggar | November 23, 2009 1:28 AM | Report abuse

I do not care what anyone says, Suisham has got to go. Zorn has got to go. Campbell doesn't receive any protection because of our o line is in a needy transformation. Suisham if you read these posts, YOU SUCK!!! Do your job and make a field goal. I don't care if Dallas did score a touchdown, we should have won that game. Suisham you suck!!!!!

Posted by: squa | November 23, 2009 5:19 AM | Report abuse

When it comes to close games like this....the difference is the coaching....

This is not Swiss ham's fault.....Not even the inaccurate JC17's fault...But this lies right at the feet of the HC....

This loss does not hurt Vinny's chances of getting fired....We had the personnel to beat them....but the Head Coach let them down......

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 23, 2009 6:24 AM | Report abuse

Disappointing (and unnecessary) loss yesterday. But boy did Rock Cartwright look good. Let's see if Red wants to fight about that today...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 23, 2009 6:54 AM | Report abuse

Dude...He played better this week and wasn't the only reason we lost. He was inaccurate as usual and had a chance to win the game and yet once again didn't. He wasn't solely responsible but as always he's in the conversation.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 22, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

On what planet is 65% considered innaccurate for a QB? Only on "RI WE'RE 1 PLAYER AWAY FROM THA SUPA BOWLS!!! planet. I can't believe we're still whining about the QB. We had no pass protection and no running game!! We need a left tackle, right tackle, right guard, running back and center before we even think about taking a QB. The whole point behind resigning JC is that we won't be making QB a position of need in the offseason and can spend that resource on a LT, RG, C, RB, or RT instead. We're not 1 player away. We're not even 1 draft away. We're at the very least 2 drafts away from fielding a competent team and possibly 3 years away from fielding a competitive team. I say resign Campbell and let him play while we rebuild the line and get a RB. Then when we have the pick to spare get a young QB and open up the competition. I'm tired of beating this dead horse into the ground so I'll say one thing and just keep repeating it. You fix terrible before you fix average. The o-line is terrible. JC is average.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 23, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins never got near the goal line. All 4 field goal attempts were outside the 10 yard line.

Even if your kicker goes 4-4, including 50+ yarders, how many games to expect to win without scoring a TD?

If Marion Barber hadn't fumbled in the 1Q, Dallas looked prime to run into the end zone. Dallas also missed an easy FG.

You can blame the kicker, but the game could have just as easily been Dallas 17, Washington 12. Would that make you happier?

Posted by: AxelDC | November 23, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

You have to love/cry on the false start penalty and then the next play we get called for delay of game. Good example of an inept offense from both players and coaches.

And of course, we have to usually burn 1-2 timeouts so we have only 1 when it counts.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | November 23, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I understand that it should not come down to the field goal kicker to determine the outcome of a game, but if that is his only job and he has NO competition or backup, then he should be making the "High" percentage kicks all the time. Besides, ShuiSHAM's statistics are so over-rated because he padded most of the numbers when the Redskin offense could not punch it in from the 5 or 10 yard line, thus he was mostly making "Extra-Point" type of field goals. In the NFL, you better be 100% in your Point-After-TD or else you will be finding another job real soon, so to me, he should be making those FG from that distance anyway. This guy does not have the leg nor does he have the accuracy from anything 40+ throughout his career and he basically has made a living with the Redskins due to their inept offense within the Red-Zone. Again, it should not have come down to a field goal or two, but missing "Chip-Shots" during the game are just as important as any other momentum dependent moments. In his case, he just added another burden for the Redskins to over-come.

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 23, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I see all the JC apologists are at it again. Statistics are for losers. Bottom line is he did not get us into the end zone, and made a beautiful rolling to the left sidearm across the body throwing to his right interception in the final 1:30. Only one statistic matters, the won/lost record with him at QB. Nothing else matters.

Posted by: rmcpks73 | November 23, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

I see all the JC apologists are at it again. Statistics are for losers. Bottom line is he did not get us into the end zone, and made a beautiful rolling to the left sidearm across the body throwing to his right interception in the final 1:30. Only one statistic matters, the won/lost record with him at QB. Nothing else matters.

Posted by: rmcpks73 | November 23, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

3 people f'ed yesterday's game; Campbell for being stupid by throwing the ball while he's running out of bounds (why the heck throw in the first place and run out of bounds?);Suisham for missing the attempted chip shot FG; and Zorn for not trying to score at least a TD with time left for at least 2 plays.

Thank guys!!!!!!!!!!!!

Opps, Larry Michael will hate me for even daring to write this.

Posted by: memyselfI1 | November 23, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

3 people f'ed yesterday's game; Campbell for being stupid by throwing the ball while he's running out of bounds (why the heck throw in the first place and run out of bounds?);Suisham for missing the attempted chip shot FG; and Zorn for not trying to score at least a TD with time left for at least 2 plays.

Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!

Opps, Larry Michael will hate me for even daring to write this.

Posted by: memyselfI1 | November 23, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

3 people f'ed yesterday's game; Campbell for being stupid by throwing the ball while he's running out of bounds (why the heck throw in the first place and run out of bounds?);Suisham for missing the attempted chip shot FG; and Zorn for not trying to score at least a TD with time left for at least 2 plays.

Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!

Opps, Larry Michael will hate me for even daring to write this.

Posted by: memyselfI1 | November 23, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

People can blame Suisham all they want for this loss, but it will not change the fact that the Redskins couldn't get into the end zone in this game, just like they've not been able to most of the season.

The Redskins offense had every opportunity to put this game away with a single touchdown, and couldn't do it. So it's a little silly to blame it all on the kicker.

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | November 23, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I agree with pfunk. Suisham sucks and should be cut. He may have been perfect (well, "perfect") this season before yesterday, but does no one remember this is a kicker who has MISSED AN EXTRA POINT? I have zero sympathy for him. Zero. He's making more money in a year than I'll ever make and the only g-dmn thing he has to do is kick the ball. That's it. Send him back to Canada.

Posted by: sickofit1 | November 23, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

suisham CHOKED he missed a 39yarder on 3rd down(another play should have been ran before the kick) I didnt think he would make the 50yarder but you MUST make most field goals 45yds and closer, this guy kick-offs are usually short(he did make a good tackle on special teams)this team must bring in another kicker next season to challenge him and hopefully take his job. too many players on offense and defense were injured and bleeding after the game and for this guy to miss a short field goal wearing a clean uniform is ridiculous. make the KICK"

Posted by: wathu19 | November 23, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Don't shoulder the blame, Shaun. Snyder should fire Cerrato and get a competent GM.
(And let the GM run the show.)

Posted by: seaduck2001 | November 23, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Don't shoulder the blame, Shaun. Snyder should fire Cerrato and get a competent GM.
(And let the GM run the show.)

Posted by: seaduck2001 | November 23, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

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