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Montgomery Receives Tender; Dockery on Market (Updated)

Jason Reid files this update:

We reported in today's editions that we expected defensive tackle Anthony Montgomery to receive his tender offer, and a team source has confirmed that the Redskins officially made a low tender to Montgomery. Defensive tackle Kedric Golston also was expected to be tendered.

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We're monitoring the situation with former Skins guard Derrick Dockery, who was cut by the Buffalo Bills.

Obviously, the Skins are very familiar with Dockery, whom they drafted and watched develop into a solid NFL guard duirng his four seasons at Redskins Park.

Ultimately, money, and the salary-cap situation, might prevent Daniel Snyder and Vinny Cerrato from bringing back Dockery. But Dockery is a "Joe Bugel guy," so it's difficult to imagine that Snyder and Cerrato wouldn't at least explore the situation.

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By Cindy Boren  |  February 26, 2009; 11:20 AM ET
 
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I really hope the skins don't sign big Albert. Who would want to land the best player availabe in the past decade.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Thats good atleast we will get a pick if they sign elswere.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 26, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Low tender? I was hoping for the second round tender. It would only be about 500k more.

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Who wants pressure up the middle? That crap is over rated. I mean its not like every dominant defense is based on it. Who would ever want to see me have to go up against Grode twice a year?

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I really hope the skins don't sign big Albert. Who would want to land the best player availabe in the past decade.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:30 AM |

If the last decade is 1 year, last year then your correct.

Dude has never played a full season and only plays 1st and 2nd down.

He will get lazy once he gets paid trust me.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 26, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Low tender? I was hoping for the second round tender. It would only be about 500k more.

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I think they were going for getting him cheap rather than pretending that anyone else in the world wants him.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

This team is not one player away, if they were then I would say sign Haynesworth.

This team is a bunch of players and a few years away from being competitive.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 26, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Pleepus,

Yeah, go ahead and sign Albert to a huge contract so you won't have any cap space left to upgrade any other position. I guess Albert will be playing DT, OT, OG, OLB, and maybe a little CB on the side.

Posted by: ga8085 | February 26, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I hear that the Bills will release Derrick Dockery. Vinny, please bring him home!

Posted by: dcwun | February 26, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I really hope the skins don't sign big Albert. Who would want to land the best player availabe in the past decade.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:30 AM |

If the last decade is 1 year, last year then your correct.

Dude has never played a full season and only plays 1st and 2nd down.

He will get lazy once he gets paid trust me.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 26, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

While this may be true you are assuming that the only thing that motivates him is money. it is just as likly that being the best or being a hall of famer for personal glory motivates him as well. I'm not going to say he is a team player but he does seem to want ot be the best. Portis wanted out of Denver for more money and got it. I don't see him trying any less than 100 percent. Even if it is for reasons of personal glory.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

if montgomery is signed by another team, what do we get in compensation for him, a 4th rounder ? less ?

Posted by: shally | February 26, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Pleepus,

Yeah, go ahead and sign Albert to a huge contract so you won't have any cap space left to upgrade any other position. I guess Albert will be playing DT, OT, OG, OLB, and maybe a little CB on the side.

Posted by: ga8085 | February 26, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

What was I thinking? Instead of getting the best available player they should pick up 5 or 6 crap players. Bowl or Bust 2010!

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

If its based on play then the Skins are awarded a piece of Bazooka Joe gum and a paper clip.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

if montgomery is signed by another team, what do we get in compensation for him, a 4th rounder ? less ?

Posted by: shally

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We get what we used to draft him. So a 5th rounder.

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

So to change things up a little, if the team ends up getting, Dock, Canty, Hall, and drafts Andre Smith, thats a pretty good haul for an offseason...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 26, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

So to change things up a little, if the team ends up getting, Dock, Canty, Hall, and drafts Andre Smith, thats a pretty good haul for an offseason...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 26, 2009 11:45 AM |

Agreed

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 26, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Pleepus,

Yeah, go ahead and sign Albert to a huge contract so you won't have any cap space left to upgrade any other position. I guess Albert will be playing DT, OT, OG, OLB, and maybe a little CB on the side.

Posted by: ga8085

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The problem I have with this thinking is that people are really underestimating the value of other free agents.

Do you think Chris Canty, Deangelo Hall, or Jason Brown are going to sign here for pennies out of the goodness of their heart?

At most, we'll be able to sign 2 players for the price of Haynesworth. That's 2 good, but nowhere near elite players for the price of arguably the most dominant defensive player in the game.

Me, I'll take Haynesworth.

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

So to change things up a little, if the team ends up getting, Dock, Canty, Hall, and drafts Andre Smith, thats a pretty good haul for an offseason...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 26, 2009 11:45 AM |

I'm still with you on this. And if they get Haynesworth, then it's same-old same-old, warmed over.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 26, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Hit refresh; I added a little thing on Dockery, nothing major. Also, we are told they're doing nothing with wide receivers...

Posted by: Cindy Boren | February 26, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

What was I thinking? Instead of getting the best available player they should pick up 5 or 6 crap players. Bowl or Bust 2010!

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:41 AM |

Who says the FA's they sign would be crap, also the 2010 SB winner will not have AH on there team.

AH doesn't make us a better team, it makes are defense a little better, but the offense will still suck because the QB has no time to throw the ball.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 26, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Beantown.....I would consider that one of the better offseasons we've had in ages. I'm still iffy on taking ANY former Cowboy player even though he went to UVA.

Posted by: dcwun | February 26, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

4th's predictions:

We sign Dockery AND HAynesworth by the weekend.

We may also sign the LB dude that cut from Buffalo.

We will not resign DEvans since we got lots of youngsters behind him.........

This is not like the previoud years people. And even if HAynesworth deal averages $15Mil per year, he will never see it. Always look at the last 3 years of the contract for high salaries he'll never see.

Posted by: RightWay | February 26, 2009 11:31 AM

Posted by: RightWay | February 26, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Hit refresh; I added a little thing on Dockery, nothing major. Also, we are told they're doing nothing with wide receivers...

Posted by: Cindy Boren | February 26, 2009 11:49 AM |

Good lets go with what we have and hopefully the blossom into players.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 26, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

The problem I have with this thinking is that people are really underestimating the value of other free agents.

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 11:47 AM

So do the Steelers. I think they had a pretty good year...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 26, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Last post on Dock from me.

Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham

Here's a stunner: The Buffalo Bills have cut left guard Derrick Dockery.

The Bills made Dockery one of the NFL's highest-paid offensive linemen two years ago, when they signed him to a seven-year, $49 million contract, with $18.5 million in guarantees.

Dockery, who spent the first four years of his career with the Washington Redskins, has started 93 straight games. The Redskins selected him in the third round of the 2003 draft.

The left side of the Bills' line -- with Dockery and Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters -- was supposed to be a strength for their offense last year. But line play was disappointing overall.

The Bills ranked 25th in total offense, 14th in yards per carry despite blocking for one of the league's hardest runners in Marshawn Lynch and allowed the 10th-most sacks.


Posted by: TWISI | February 26, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Who wants pressure up the middle? That crap is over rated. I mean its not like every dominant defense is based on it. Who would ever want to see me have to go up against Grode twice a year?"

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:32 AM


Pressure up the middle isn't overrated and sure as hell isn't crap. Every guy that gets or has got a lot of sacks always had a good to great DT(s) playing next to them.

Reggie White comes first to mind, with Gilbert and Jerome Brown. Or you could be a 3-4 guy like Jason Taylor and Bruce Smith and get your ILBs to create pressure. Smith had guys like Bennett and Talley, while Taylor had guys like Tim Bowens, Zach Thomas, and of who could forget Daryl Gardner.

Guys like Tuck and Osi are good, but Fred Robbins is what makes that line what it is.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 26, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

"AH doesn't make us a better team, it makes are defense a little better, but the offense will still suck because the QB has no time to throw the ball.

Posted by: Flounder21"

Didn't you agree to Beantown's suggestion of Canty, Hall, Dock, + Smith?

How would Haynesworth, Dock, Smith be any different in terms of Campbell being able to throw the ball?

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

So to change things up a little, if the team ends up getting, Dock, Canty, Hall, and drafts Andre Smith, thats a pretty good haul for an offseason...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 26, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

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Agreed, plus Angelo Crowell and Mark Tauscher as insurance backups.

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | February 26, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

we are told they're doing nothing with wide receivers...

Posted by: Cindy Boren | February 26, 2009 11:49 AM

Thank Christ! They might actually address needs this year...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 26, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

At most, we'll be able to sign 2 players for the price of Haynesworth. That's 2 good, but nowhere near elite players for the price of arguably the most dominant defensive player in the game.

Me, I'll take Haynesworth.

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 11:47 AM

Agree to disagree.

Haynesworth has been in the league six years. He's been in the Pro Bowl two of those six years. Maybe someday he'll be an "elite player" but he isn't today.

Me, I'll take two starters over Haynesworth.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 26, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, plus Angelo Crowell and Mark Tauscher as insurance backups.

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | February 26, 2009 11:54 AM

Dude, are you serious?? If those two can't beat out the guys playing those spots now, they're not worth signing!

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 26, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

"So do the Steelers. I think they had a pretty good year...

Posted by: brownwood26"

The Steelers don't underestimate the value of free agents. They simply rarely sign any to large contracts.

Does you really think the Steelers would even consider Chris Canty for a 5 year, $40 million contract?

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

What was I thinking? Instead of getting the best available player they should pick up 5 or 6 crap players. Bowl or Bust 2010!

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Who says there's no other solid players out there? Just because they're not superstars doesn't mean their crappy. Teams aren't built with superstars at every position, and while signing Albert bolsters the defense and pass rush, you'll end up having the same problem as last yr with the offense if you're not able to upgrade the O line. What's the point of having a stellar defense when the offense won't take advantage? And if you sign Albert, you more then likely can't resign D Hall or any other solid FA.

Posted by: ga8085 | February 26, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"Haynesworth has been in the league six years. He's been in the Pro Bowl two of those six years. Maybe someday he'll be an "elite player" but he isn't today.

Posted by: talent_evaluator"

Now if I changed "Haynesworth" to "James Harrison", would you still hold on to this belief?

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Me, I'll take two starters over Haynesworth.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 26, 2009 11:55 AM

Amen!

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 26, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"And if you sign Albert, you more then likely can't resign D Hall or any other solid FA.

Posted by: ga8085"

The problem is these "solid" FA's, including Hall, will be looking to get paid like all-pro's (similar to Derrick Dockery circa 2007). In the end, you're not actually getting value, just less impact players.

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Guys, we don't even know at what tender Montgomery and Gohlston were offered, so there is no telling at this point what would be the Skins compensation if they were to sign with another team.

My guess is they were atleast offered a 3rd round tender if not higher...

4th

Posted by: RightWay | February 26, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

The Steelers don't underestimate the value of free agents. They simply rarely sign any to large contracts.

Does you really think the Steelers would even consider Chris Canty for a 5 year, $40 million contract?

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 11:58 AM

You're right...undervalue would be the more operative word.

They don't just operate that way because they're cheap. They operate that way because when you have a good coaching staff you trust with the development of your players, you can build that team almost exclusively with the draft so that the players learn your way of doing things and you don't have guys from other teams saying "this ain't how did it back in (insert former team here)". And the Steelers are in the playoffs just about every year. At what point to the Skins say, "Haynesworth is a helluva player, but he's just not a Redskin". I just wonder if the Skins would grade Haynesworth as high if he was a Redskin all along or if you Haynesworth supporters would be so hot to keep him here...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 26, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Beep beep...Griffin details.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | February 26, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Who wants pressure up the middle? That crap is over rated. I mean its not like every dominant defense is based on it. Who would ever want to see me have to go up against Grode twice a year?"

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 11:32 AM


Pressure up the middle isn't overrated and sure as hell isn't crap. Every guy that gets or has got a lot of sacks always had a good to great DT(s) playing next to them.

Reggie White comes first to mind, with Gilbert and Jerome Brown. Or you could be a 3-4 guy like Jason Taylor and Bruce Smith and get your ILBs to create pressure. Smith had guys like Bennett and Talley, while Taylor had guys like Tim Bowens, Zach Thomas, and of who could forget Daryl Gardner.

Guys like Tuck and Osi are good, but Fred Robbins is what makes that line what it is.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 26, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I guess my sarcasm didn't wasn't evident enough...

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 26, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Didn't you agree to Beantown's suggestion of Canty, Hall, Dock, + Smith?

How would Haynesworth, Dock, Smith be any different in terms of Campbell being able to throw the ball?

Posted by: psps23 | February 26, 2009 11:53 AM |

Well for one if you sign AH you can forget about Dock and Hall you can still get Smith in the draft.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 26, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

If I recall correctly, what usually happens when the Skins are considering signing a big-time free agent. First, there's a lot of skepticism about the value of such a signing. Then if the signing goes through, the fans and the media reconsider and start to get excited about the new face. That's followed by creeping disappointment if the wins don't follow (or the guy gets hurt or something.

Of course, if it works, everybody's happy and the GM gets to pretend he knew what he was doing.

Much less drama around your ordinary second-tier free agent. So everybody thinks clearer.

When it comes to the big names, the owner and the FO turn into big starry-eyed fans again -- 12 year olds with bigger bank accounts. Like kids, it's sometimes lucky if they don't get what they wanted most for xmas -- because it would have broken anyway.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 26, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

It would be a big mistake to sign Haynesworth. The reason is the same as when the Yankees sign big name FAs - their best years are behind them and that is what you are paying for. With Haynesworth you would be lucky to get two years of beastial play at best. DT, along with RB is the biggest burnout position there is. It takes a lot out of you to have to expend lots of energy pushing against linemen to get movement. Same with RBs - they have to push hard against LBs. Speaking of RBs, if they sign him, in a couple of years him and Portis will be sucking up half the cap space in the FO and plenty of pond scum on the field.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | February 26, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

As awesome as it would be to have Haynesworth, I have so much trouble rationalizing the enormous amount of salary cap he'll take up. If we keep Taylor, we'll probably get more pressure than last year. I'm sure I'll get hateful comments for saying this, but I will not be the least bit surprised to see Taylor have a great year. The cap room would better be spend signing a 1st round O-Linemen and retaining our very good young corners. Rogers and Hall would make an awesome (and young) tandem, along with our young safeties. I also believe that Kelly is going to break-out. I'm probably too optimistic, but leaving room to take a cap penalty for releasing an old Springs or Jansen would be best for the long-haul. If we don't take a long-term approach to our salary-cap it's just going to get worse each year.

Posted by: bairta | February 26, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Don't know exactly why the Bills released Dockery but if we can get him on the cheap go for it, once again we should stay clear of Haynesworth, he's just not worth it, we need to upgrade the O line, if we can block better we'll have more time to throw, and more holes to run, scoring more points, sustaining more drives, keeping our top ten defense off the field, giving them more energy to close the deal in the fourth quarter, something we couldn't do last year, it's that simple.

Posted by: 72Redskins | February 26, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

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