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JLa continues with his well-deserved time off...but lets finished off this Clinton Portis thread. Hopefully, the story has no legs beyond today. Clinton Portis said something that wasn't smart, that he probably does not even believe. He loves to be outrageous and funny; I can't think he really feels this way. And who hasn't had a lapse when words coming out of your mouth haven't been processed through the brain? That said, there's a way to handle the aftermath. Look at Chris Samuels, who was standing beside Portis when he opened his mouth.
On Tuesday, he said that he and Portis were wrong for joking about dogfighting. "It's very serious," Samuels said. "We don't agree with dogfighting. [As soon as the interview was finished], "I said, 'You know what? This might be a mess.' We knew we were on camera. We did a live shot before and then we had the taped interview, and we were kind of joking the whole time we were there. Once that question came about, and we were joking about that in a sense, I was kind of caught off guard with it. . . . We were wrong for joking about the situation."
This is how you avoid having your commissioner, who is rightly proactive and empowered when it comes to cleaning up the league's image, say he's embarrassed by your remarks.


By Cindy Boren  |  May 23, 2007; 1:17 PM ET
 
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So, who goes on 60 minutes first? Pacman Jones, Vick, Portis, Tank Johnson, or Goodell? It's bound to happen...

Posted by: CC | May 23, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

It just seems like a cultural thing - maybe dog fighting is common in the south. It didn't seem like a big deal to Portis - I don't think he was joking about it or anything he just said what was on his mind.

Posted by: David | May 23, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

It just seems like a cultural thing - maybe dog fighting is common in the south. It didn't seem like a big deal to Portis - I don't think he was joking about it or anything he just said what was on his mind.

Posted by: David | May 23, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, I do hope you are still here tomorrow. I just saw Jerome Bettis wearing a jersey that said "Boren" on the back.

Posted by: dcsween | May 23, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

David, that is exactly Wilbon's position on Portis's comments and if he weren't at the NBA playoffs, you would have heard him yesterday on our webcast. Unless you grew up where Portis did, how would you know what he's thinking?

Posted by: Cindy | May 23, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Portis just needs to hope for another "big" sports story to come about so his story is shuffled below the headline story. When does Roger Clemens make his first start...? Not soon enough I'm afraid.

Posted by: CC | May 23, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

CC, you make a good point. It has worked in other sectors of society--like politics and government!
I'm going to be sure to look twice each way before crossing streets now. And if I hear that Bettis is in town, I'm staying in bed.

Posted by: Cindy | May 23, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Title of the thread "More On Portis". Say it out loud. Oops.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 23, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me - I just gave you your next big sports story last thread? Or are you guys for steriods as well?

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 23, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

ruff ruff!! i hear portis' dawg, snowflake, is undefeated in the Mississippi division!

Posted by: corey | May 23, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

ruff ruff!! i hear portis' dawg, snowflake, is undefeated in the Mississippi division!

Posted by: corey | May 23, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

ruff ruff!! i hear portis' dawg, snowflake, is undefeated in the Mississippi division!

Posted by: corey | May 23, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm embarrassed for my life.

Posted by: Dan Shanoff | May 23, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I am really glad the commish is stepping hard on all these disciplinary issues. It was way past time.

That said, the fact that he's doing it in such a high-impact way is starting to create a media feeding frenzy. Every minor miscue from any NFL player is suddenly in the glare of the media spotlight. Why? Because it catches the attention of football-obsessed blogging fools...like me. Okay, maybe I should shut up now.

I'm not saying dog-fighting is a little miscue. But no way would comments like what Portis and Samuels said make these kind of headlines three months ago.

Posted by: sieskani | May 23, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Snowflake lost in the state finals to Mr. Barky-Buns schauzer.

Posted by: etrod | May 23, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, CC, it's only because of the dearth of real sports news that the Portis story has been covered this much.

If only something really BIG were going on, like the Stanley Cup Finals.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Oh no. No more bitey dog, no more.

Let's talk about Jerome Bettis wearing the wrong uniform.

Do any of the Skins have a hang nail? How is CP's knee doing? How and when did it get hurt, anyway?

Who will get cut in June?

Posted by: Stumped | May 23, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

If only something really BIG were going on, like the Stanley Cup Finals.
Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 02:08 PM

_________________________________________

Yes, like the NBA conference finals, or a Red Sox vs. Yankees series.

But I have to admit, this embarrassingly stupid, unaware thing to say, does make the news. And it is only making it because no adult over 20 should still be thinking it is ok to do whatever you want in your own yard.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 23, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

A friend of mind suggested that Clinton Portis should have a personal one-on-one with a really big, really ticked off dog. Perhaps a few hours working at a dog shelter or with abused animals might make a dent in his insensitive brain and heart. If that doesn't work, perhaps a trade to the Bengals would be in order so he could be around his own kind.

Posted by: bayareafan | May 23, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

ohhh i hear portis' dawg, snowflake, can kill a bengal in 11 seconds! bengal killin was snowflakes training for the Mississippi semis!

Posted by: corey | May 23, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

2:12PM, I still will do whatever I want in my own yard ... its just that I'm only going to want to do things that are legal (or for which I don't get caught).

Posted by: dcsween | May 23, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

If we had heard anything from Portis like the Samuels quote in Cindy's post, this thing would be OVER by now. But Portis can't get out of his own way on this.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

4th floor - Steroids has been in the news for the last 5 years and it's nothing new that Giambi's name is being associated with it. I saw the headline today for Giambi failing a drug test but I didn't even bother to read it because it's nothing new for Giambi. That's like Ricky Williams smoking weed again...

I was referring to bigger stories. For example, remember the NASA love triangle? It was all over the news for 2 days until Anna Nicole died. After that, I haven't read or heard anything (front page worthy)about the NASA love triangle.

Posted by: CC | May 23, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

And speaking of animal welfare, and that of Bengal tigers in particular, R.I.P. "Mike" the LSU tiger mascot.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ny-splsu235226310may23,0,7433210.story?coll=ny-football-headlines

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

So wait, I'm not allowed to grow marijuana in my backyard? This whole time I thought it was ok because I owned it. Wow, thanks Clinton for opening my eyes

Posted by: bornskinsfan | May 23, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

If that doesn't work, perhaps a trade to the Bengals would be in order so he could be around his own kind.

Posted by: bayareafan | May 23, 2007 02:13 PM

Now, now, I don't think CP showed himself to be anything like the Bengals problems of out-right law breakers.
CP's problem is not willful breaking of the Law, rather CP revealed his is ignorance.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 23, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

What if it was Bonds name instead of Giambi? Would you feel diffrently?

Posted by: 4th | May 23, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

dog owners (like myself) are *not* going to forget Portis' remarks on dog fighting. If he thinks that dog fighting is 'no big thing', makes me wonder his position on wife beating.

Posted by: Phillyfilly | May 23, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Or are there any more sports hernias in the skins locker room that we don't know anything about?

I still think Jasno should be required to make up for missing the Samuels injury by wandering through the locker room "checking his sources".

Posted by: cload and daggar | May 23, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I reported this Monday morning and not even our fellow bloggers picked up on this.

JLaC is not the final decider on what's what in the Redskins Locker Room....

Posted by: 4th | May 23, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JJ | May 23, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"If only something really BIG were going on, like the Stanley Cup Finals."

Woo hoo! Go Ottawa!

Posted by: charlie | May 23, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

What if it was Bonds name instead of Giambi? Would you feel diffrently?

Posted by: 4th | May 23, 2007 02:22 PM
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I think the "Williams -> Pot" analogy still applies there also...

Posted by: juicecowboy | May 23, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

dog owners (like myself) are *not* going to forget Portis' remarks on dog fighting. If he thinks that dog fighting is 'no big thing', makes me wonder his position on wife beating.

Posted by: Phillyfilly | May 23, 2007 02:22 PM

Reaching under the desk pulling out the hammer. Double smack to the back of your damn head. How in the hell did you connect what he saying to wife beating?

Posted by: jm220 | May 23, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how Virginia gets upset with dog fighting. Im curious to know how many hunting licenses the state of Virginia sold last year.

They think it's fine to stalk a deer with the sole purpose of shooting it in the face and as long as the shooter paid his * bucks...all is well.

But in an environment where both participants have an equal shot at getting through it alive...that's aout of bounds?

I dont condone dog fighting or hunting, but if dog fighting is morally wrong, how is hunting accepted?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh, all right. I changed the headline....
Portis should spend a little time with that Dog Whisperer guy.

Posted by: Cindy | May 23, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne,

They don't eat the dogs when they're done.

Posted by: etrod | May 23, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

This is funny....

www.redskinssuck.com

you'll get a nice laugh.....

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 23, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

etrod- A lot of hunters kill animals for the sole purpose of killing them and mounting the head on their wall.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 23, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Come on, dog fighting and hunting are completely different things.

I don't like either one, but there are at least somewhat reasonable justifications for some hunting (it's a bona fide food source, often for lower-income families; "managing" populations of species like deer whose natural predators we have virtually eliminated).

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm kinda hoping something, anything, even another bad story comes along with the Skins so we can drop this whole thing. Or better yet... how long until the pre-season is here?

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | May 23, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I am just curious to know where is that magic line between sport and criminal activity and who drew that line.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe people are still on this. I don't understand the comments about putting Portis with a dog, etc, etc, etc. To me if you are going to act this way it should be towards Vick. There is no evidence that Portis has ever participated in dog fighting. Maybe he's only heard of it and never actually saw it and has no idea of how bad it is. In his mind he hears dog fighting and and to him it doesn't rank as high as murdering a person or rape. Maybe that's what he's saying.

I don't know. I don't agree with dog fighting but I'm not going to condemn a person before I know all the facts. And I definitely can't read what's in people's hearts.

Everyday we associate with people with different values and beliefs and some are shocking. This doesn't cause us to interview the guy at the grocery store to see if he's moral enough for us to buy something.

Posted by: the don | May 23, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

The only thing I hate more than dog fighting is PETA.

Posted by: etrod | May 23, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

But what if its a lower income family using dog fighting as a means to raise capital for the bullets it costs to kill the deer they need to feed the family??

Aha...gotcha

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

David, it doesn't matter where he comes from. As a high profile player, CP's comments reflect poorly on the Redskins and the NFL. There are no exceptions for people from the south.

Sorry, folks, he's an ass. What he said deserves the scrutiny it's getting.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | May 23, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Coming soon: Ron Mexico brand Dog Jerky!

It ain't illegal if ya eat it!

Posted by: etrod | May 23, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Again, I'm just stunned that somebody -- an agent or family member or teammate -- didn't whisper in Portis' ear that he should come right out and say something exactly like what Samuels said.

"I was asked to comment on an ongoing investigation which may or may not involve criminal activity on an NFL player's property. It was wrong for me to make jokes about the very serious allegations, and to make light of the very serious problem of dogfighting, which I vehemently oppose."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

And Cheyenne, I'm definitely not in favor of hunting, I just think it merits consideration apart from dogfighting.

Dude, you're the one who lives in Wyoming. They probably install gun racks on golf carts out there.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

The idea that a star player can infect the way you view the world is ridiculous.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4-12 | May 23, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Joe and other like you. WTF!! You guys are going off on CP about dogs! We have people being killed every damn day all over the US. How about some media attention to that? We have people being killed everyday in Iraq. I don't agree with dog fighting but damn it's not like they are living people.

Posted by: jm220 | May 23, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Nate, you need to go back to the previous thread. The giant sea anemone in the massive fishtank/headboard DID whisper in Portis' ear. Just happens to turn out that this particular sea anemone is related to the ones that hate Byron Leftwich (but hate dogs more).

Posted by: dcsween | May 23, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Nate - If you said that on tv, you would be shamed all up and down through the PDX, man. I was offended by you saying lower income families have to hunt for their food. I or no one else I know of lower incomes ever thought to do that. But sense we are blog buddies, I'll let it go....

The MAIN difference between Hunting and Dog Fighting is that hunting is legal. Dogs are over populated in as many areas as deers are. We don't kill for our food now-a-days. We go to the grocery store, including lower income families (through Food Stamps or pay with hard earned $$). It's 2007 for pete's sake.......

Posted by: 4th | May 23, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I guess Im a bit hypocritical too because I like to fish. I always throw whatever I catch right back into the water and Im not out to eat any fresh fish.

Ill eat burgers and steaks all day long probably because i dont feel I had a direct hand in their death.

I'm not a pinko commy bastard by any means. I just don't think you should shoot anything that is not ready to shoot at you first.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

" ... Dude, you're the one who lives in Wyoming. They probably install gun racks on golf carts out there.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 02:47 PM"

Don't get me started on golfers and golferfighting.

Posted by: dcsween | May 23, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, jm220. Phillyfilly nails the point. Exactly.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | May 23, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

i heard snowflake was going to fight the LSU tiger at vick's place. the winner got to be the LSU mascot, but the stupid federales stepped in.

Posted by: Jimmy | May 23, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

this just in!!!!!!!!!! snowflake has accepted a fight with a contender from Ala. this dog fight is being billed the fight of the century. the contender is named dirty boss meat and hails from some back road.... stay tuned for fight date!

Posted by: corey | May 23, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't agree with dog fighting but damn it's not like they are living people.

Posted by: jm220 | May 23, 2007 02:48 PM

F.U. buddy!

Posted by: McGruff | May 23, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, its fishermen like you who give humans, like say Byron Leftwich, a bad name (among the fish that is).

Posted by: dcsween | May 23, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Aha! You've got it, 4th! We need to legalize the hunting of dogs!

In all his free time after he's cut on June 1 -- if he lasts that long -- Portis can take up this worthy cause.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I dont want to kill the fish...I just want to make them late to wherever they were going in the first place.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Stumped | May 23, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

FIRST

Posted by: Cal Ripken | May 23, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

jm220, it doesn't have to be either-or. Dog-fighting is wrong. Wife abuse is wrong. Other violent crimes are wrong. They can ALL be wrong.

You don't have to condone one to vilify the others.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | May 23, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

dog vs homeless. the winner gets to eat the loser. brilliant

Posted by: Jimmy | May 23, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

dog vs homeless. the winner gets to eat the loser. brilliant

Posted by: Jimmy | May 23, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

The George W. Bush plan for resolving forest fires: Cut down the trees

The George W. Bush plan for resolving illegal aliens in the US: Grant citizenship to all of them

I sure hate to imagine what his plan would be for this dog fighting issue.

Posted by: One of the 72% | May 23, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Ack! The blog is suffering from a sports hernia.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I can take on any dog in a fight because:

The name's Poochie D.
And I rock the telly.
I'm half Joe Camel and a third Fonzarelli.
I'm the Kung-Fu hippie,
from Gangsta City.
I'm a rappin' surfer.
You the fool I pity.

Posted by: Poochie | May 23, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

WOW, this is just unbelieveable. What is wrong with people. CP express's his opinion on a subject, and now he most likely is in favor of beating his wife, and he should be traded to the Bengals whom have KNOWN criminals on their team?

What exact LAW did he break? Some of you should castrate yourselves, so that your STUPID GENE's never get passed on.

WTF!!!!!

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | May 23, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

jm220- just saw your post on the previous thread. Thoughts and prayers are with you my friend.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 23, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Thanks 4-12.

Posted by: jm220 | May 23, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

ruff ruff....ruff...ruff ruff...ruff ruff ruff.......ruff ......ruff......ruff ruff.....ruff ruff ruff ruff......ruff ruff........ruff

Posted by: Mr. Bones | May 23, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Check out SNL's take on Michael Vick at youtube.com...it's "REALLY" hilarious. And this Saturday Night Live came out before the whole dog fighting incident.

Posted by: bayareafan | May 23, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, I thought you were changing it to 'Moron Portis.'

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

anyone remember the Daily Show story where the reporter asked how much it cost to "shoot the dog" in a canned-hunt facility? Canned-hunts are worse than dog fighting . . . barely.

Posted by: Mt. Vernon | May 23, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Well, unless the vice president shoots his friend in the face. Then the canned hunt is priceless.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Our sympathy and thoughts are with you, JM.

Posted by: Cindy | May 23, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

jm220, would you be defending Michael Irvin in the same way, if he had said these things instead of your boy CP?

Keyshawn retired.

Posted by: SMACK | May 23, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Clinton said on the NFL Network last night that he does not condone dogfighting and really does not know anything about it or the situation Vick is in. But he also mentioned that hunting is legal - which is killing animals. He has a point.

What will be the backlash from all this media hype? My guess is CP will become as media shy as the Reaper.

Posted by: Lisa | May 23, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

this is not a big deal. how come you guys aren't outraged about hunting? these are dogs fighting dogs. hunting is where a human takes an another animal's life. very cheaply.

why are you guys not outraged about hunting?

Also Mr. Swanson, it's nice to know where the american indians are in the pecking order of society according to skins brass. BELOW DOGS!!!!

Posted by: dealer | May 23, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON PORTIS DESERVE NEGATIVITY...HE BRINGS IT SO SHE DESERVES IT

Posted by: Anonymous | May 23, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

dealer, I abhor hunting. But typically, an animal walks around in the woods for a while, eating berries and whatnot, and then blam, it's over. Dogfighting is prolonged, malicious, indefensible cruelty. They are worlds apart.

Posted by: SMACK | May 23, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I dont condone dog fighting or hunting, but if dog fighting is morally wrong, how is hunting accepted?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 02:33 PM

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So how was that turkey last Thanksgiving, bro?
God gives us good things to enjoy for food, but not dogs to make sport of them to watch them fight to the death.
You can't see the difference?

Posted by: Carson | May 23, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Carson - What about hunting not for food, but just because (Example - Cheney and his duck hunting)

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 23, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

This is exactly what happened to Portis -- he never should have been the story here, but by not speaking carefully he BECAME the story. But now the story is out there boiling over into conversations like this one. Let's not rip each other apart over this, folks.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Stumped | May 23, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Point of clarification.

According to the Washington Post, Roger Goodell did not say (as you paraphrase) that he was embarrassed by Portis' remarks. He said I'm extremely . . . embarrassed for Clinton Portis."

That is far more demeaning and condescending. Unless I am reading it wrong, Goodell is implying that he is embarassed for Clinton because Clinton is too ignorant to be embarassed himself.

As for Goodell's brilliant idea of installing ear pieces in the helmets of all the offensive players so crowd noise is not a factor and fans have no reason to show up, well "I am extremely embarassed for Roger on that proposal."

Posted by: JamesTuthill | May 23, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Lisa,

I don't think I can imagine CP become shy of the media.

Posted by: gethanr13 | May 23, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Carson - What about hunting not for food, but just because (Example - Cheney and his duck hunting)
Posted by: 4th Floor | May 23, 2007 03:46 PM
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Did you guys see President Bush recently giving a speech? He displayed a sense of humor as he said, He was not going to be a lame-duck president, unless of course Cheney shot him in the leg.

This message to PETA:
Last night I had salmon and loved it.
Tonight I am having chicken and will love it too, and will be happy to thank God for it before I eat it, as I know he has provided it for we humans, in his intelligently designed plans.

Posted by: Carson | May 23, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

gethanr13 - Agreed. I wouldn't doubt if CP incorporates this story into a costume for one of his media days. I don't know if that would be the right thing to do, but you can't under estimate CP.

Posted by: CC | May 23, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

"... What will be the backlash from all this media hype? My guess is CP will become as media shy as the Reaper.

Posted by: Lisa | May 23, 2007 03:20 PM"

Lisa, you're the sister I've never had (other than the three I actually have), but CP will become media shy right after Joe Gibbs becomes a satanist. While I do think Clinton will stop saying anything about Michael Vick (and even less about dogs), I do think it is his nature to mug for the camera. This is fortunate for us, not just for the pseudo press conferences, but because he is really a very charming guy (like Levar was).

Posted by: dcsween | May 23, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Heard you on Kornheiser this morning.

Portis condones dog fighting and your reaction is to criticize Gibbs and Redskins for the way the they have or haven't responsed.

You want Gibbs to make a statement about how he is going to talk with Portis?

Please....Gibbs is his football coach,not his nanny, and obviously Portis's statements aren't something Gibbs or the Skins would agree with.

It is unfortunate that you seem to confuse criticism with insight. It is clear that you can't wait to find reasons to bash the team's management.

You want a story, look into why dog fighting seems to be so popular with athletes.

Posted by: joel s | May 23, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I agree:
I don't know that I would say "I am embarrassed for Clinton Portis". It is condescending.

However, I myself am embarrassed that being a Huge Skins fan all of my life, that CP said what he did, revealing he is immersed in a self-centered "I can do whatever I want mentality on my own property".

I expect it from my children but not from a man who is old enough to know better by now, that living responsibly means in public and in the privacy of your own property.

And I don't feel that is condescending at all.

Why? Because everyone has opinions, and the equal right to that opinion, but clearly not all opinions are equal. Some opinions shared daily reveal an ignorance regarding the particular issue being discussed.

Fair enough?

I am done w/ the CP comment, this my last post on his comment.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | May 23, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I agree joel. JLaC has become a PETA spokesperson on this. JLa needs to find another gig....

Carson - You must be a life long politician. Youcompletely skipped over my real question a made a joke about it. Not amusing. Just like when Bush kept joking about not finding WMDs in Iraq. Why should I laugh when my step brother is there becuse of non WMDs?

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 23, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

The Giants signed Lawrence Tynes, kicker, from the Chiefs. Psych! He's an inconsistent version of John Hall. ;)

Posted by: dcsween | May 23, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

It has always annoyed me the way people can get so emotional and "up-in-arms" when it comes to animals being mistreated, now don't get me wrong, I don't condone cruelty to animals, but when it comes to people being mistreated and abuse, that's when I want us to have more emotions and compassion. We have people being treated like animals in prison camps and 3rd World countries. Now this country and around the world, pay Billions of dollars to see to men and women fight in the ring until thier faces aren't recognize by their families, now how many of you pay to watch boxing or ufc. It made me sick when some people act like dog more impotant than human. What you got to do when the dogs is bites you?

Posted by: ken | May 23, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I think you guys fail to look at this from CP's eyes. That is YOUR biggest problem. He is tired of all of this political correct BS. And he was just sounding off.

TK always talks about running overbicylist in the PArk or certain people deserve to be killed and HE IS SERIOUS. Where is the backlash? Is it because you can more relate to TK and where he is coming from than CP??? Exactly.....

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 23, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

ARGH, ARGH, Where my dogs at? RIP Boomer

Posted by: DMX | May 23, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

If people are being treated like dogs in prison there is good money to bet they did something to get put there.

I'm pretty sure the dogs in questions did not volunteer to fight another dog.

Does anyone remember the cat juggling scene from the Steve Martin movie "The Jerk"

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Keyshawn Johnson is retiring, not that football means anything right now. :-)

Posted by: charlie | May 23, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Is it because you can more relate to TK and where he is coming from than CP??? Exactly.....

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 23, 2007 04:18 PM

Man I hope this does not turn into a race thing. If TK was really SERIOUS about running over a bicyclist, then he would have done it by now.

Vick got caught, he needs to take his lumps and get on with his life.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I bet Keyshawn pulls a Junior Seau and resigns with another club.

Posted by: Cheyene, WY | May 23, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

If you ever vacation in china you will have an opertunity to eat some dog. Its a little tougher than chicken.

Posted by: Brutus | May 23, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Keyshawn signed a deal with ESPN. I think that locks him up, no?

Posted by: PSF | May 23, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully this does not come across as sarcasm because I am very serious...

I think it says alot about the country that we care so much about dogs and how we treat them.

That is the side of us that the terrorists will never understand.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

So are we as football fans prepared to call Keyshawn "a bust"?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"I think it says alot about the country that we care so much about dogs and how we treat them."

Yeah it says we have are priorities screwed up when people care more about dogs then they do about abortion and the death penalty. Who cares if soldiers and innocent civilians die in Iraq every day, as long as our pets are safe. We have become a nation of spoiled rotten yuppies that distance ourselves from issues that matter and speak out on issues that won't hurt our image with our yuppie friends.

Posted by: Brutus | May 23, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

who cares about the stupid dogs? if they want to fight each other let them ...

hunting, fishing, trapping, whatever, they are just animals. I am with CP.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 23, 2007 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Considering I happen to be in uniform right now, it's a bit of a stretch to say i don't care about the troops.

As far as the troops, we all signed a contract. We go where we told, we do what were told, and if necessary kill who were told. We are not naive enough to believe we are going to live forever

We are a volunteer force. You cannot control war and you cannot control terror. You can control a rich man that gets his jollis watching two dogs tear each other apart.

I am happy to serve in a military that protects a country that believes even a dog has basic rights.

If war bothers you...move to France

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.. I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man"
-- Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)

Don't F with Gandhi.

Posted by: SMACK | May 23, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

It seems the ones who agree with CP and dont care what happens to the animals always forget to put their name on the post.


maybe there a bit ashamed?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if you can classify Keyshawn as a bust. He certainly didn't live up the expectations being a number one overall draft pick, but it wasn't like he was out of football in 3 years like a lot of 1st round draft picks. He had a 10 year career, a few Pro Bowls, a ring, and descent numbers. The J-E-T-S should be the only ones that feel slighted by Keyshawn's performance.

Posted by: CC | May 23, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse


Just a subject to push towards 100K Lisa, that's all.


What did CP say about his comments? Did he say he was trying to make light of the situation? Or did he not back away from his statements?

Posted by: kost52 | May 22, 2007 07:43 PM

who cares about 100k? whats the point?

Posted by: | May 22, 2007 07:52 PM

These comments are from the previous thread, but have been on my mind.

Indeed, what is the point of reaching 100k?
It's a goal, like any other goal...for example, the Skins goal is ultimately to win the Superbowl and beat Dallas whenever possible. But reaching 100k or even winning the Superbowl (yes, and even beating Dallas) seem equally pointless in the big scheme of things.

It's obvious this community cares about bigger issues (recall the Habitat trip NO, I wasn't there, but others were). Anyway, what if we use 100k to raise some money for a worthy cause; something we can all agree on, something unifying. I'd for one would contribute a few bucks to a RI worthy cause.

Just a thought.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 23, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne,
I don't agree with all of your positions, but I always enjoy your comments.

Thanks for serving your country.

Posted by: Stumped | May 23, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

....Our country.

Posted by: Stumped | May 23, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Cheyyene - I was trying to word it to avoid being a racial issue. I was trying to tie it to being a social issue. (Your reflections maily come from your social upbringing).

Also, TK seriously wants to run these people over....

That's it for me. I will not talk about CP no more on dog related issues after this post.

F Goodell
F Cowboys
F Animal Cruelty

Hail!

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 23, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I dont think he is a bust on the same level that Heath Shuler or Desmond Howard was a bust.

What about LaVar Arrington...if he does retire-was he a "bust"?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Got it 4th...

I think I am a victim of the old steareotype that thinks talking culture equates to talking about race.

I should know better--I award myself no points and may god have mercy on my soul :)

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Damn. SMACK quotes Gandhi, yet likes the cowboys.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 23, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I think it says alot about the country that we care so much about dogs and how we treat them.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 04:51 PM

Yes, it says our priorities are seriously out of whack as a society and culture. Where is that same compassion and action for the hungry children of our inner cities, Appalachia, poor rural South, Native American "reservations"? For women and children who are abused, sometimes to the point of death? For those who can't afford health insurance in this country, and wait in fear of the next epidemic? Elderly people who live below poverty level because they have only Social Security? The list is endless, but the majority of middle- and upper-class America is more concerned with the welfare of their pets than about these disenfranchised groups.

You can't easily know or understand what Clinton Portis was trying to say because you weren't raised like he was, or where he was, or when he was. Try putting on his shoes and walking a mile or two before you decide what he says is right and wrong. If you can't do that, at least think a little before spouting off. Maybe it's YOUR priorities that are in the wrong order.

Posted by: Serious Sid | May 23, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

What a depressing thread. Excuse making, lame jokes, contempt for others opinion. Hell Portis is playing to the right room, here.

For the record I don't think Portis was cute, or funny, or anti-PC, or just jokin' around. I think he's a jerk. Guy can run tho, and on the field is the only time I'll root for him.

But if he's the face of the Redskins, it's particularly sad to remember a few years back when the image for Washington's football team was a cornerback with the number 28 on his back.

I remember the days when we had moral authority over that bunch of cokehead jailbirds from dallas.

Now the 'skins have Portis and Sean Taylor and Brandon Lloyd and Fred (Sexboat) Smoot representin'.

As Jean Paul Sartre once said, or perhaps it was Borat: Niiiiiice.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 23, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous (5:10pm), GREAT idea to add a charity angle to the march to 100k.

We have been indirectly collecting donations for the second mission to New Orleans (happening this summer, I think), selling blog-inspired tee shirts at cafepress.com/redskinsinsider. Very quietly we have raised almost fifty bucks. That may not seem like much, but it's something.

If you have ideas for further charity initiatives (or other tee shirts, for that matter), bring 'em on!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

If war bothers you...move to France

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 05:08 PM

Cheyenne- When the new Pres. of France took the helm last week, news story said something about "Chirac gave him the nuclear codes". I thought to myself, the French nuclear codes must be the telephone number to the base where you work!

Posted by: 4-12 | May 23, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

On Keyshawn...one thing that always bothered me about him is that he never seemed completely under control of himself when catching a ball. He was always jumping when he didn't have to, a leg flying this way, another flying that. Michael Westbrook had the same technique. There is another receiver in whom I have noticed this.

Wait for it...

Calvin Johnson.

Won't be a bust, but won't set the world on fire either.

Posted by: SMACK | May 23, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for telling me where, when, and how I was raised...since you obviously have a crystal ball and know all about the future and the past I have two questions:

1) what will the redkins record be this year?

2) did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone?


As far as the laundry list of complaints; most can be settled by either getting a job, keeping a job, or simply calling 911.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

4-12,

Is that the guy thats been trying to call me all day

Posted by: Cheyenne, Wy | May 23, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

4-12,

Is that the guy thats been trying to call me all day

Posted by: Cheyenne, Wy | May 23, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

...
Posted by: 4-12 | May 23, 2007 05:27 PM

nothing like re-reading your own post and going "huh?".

Posted by: 4-12 | May 23, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, I am glad I found a fellow member of the military to correspond with on this blog. I am a soldier in the VA National Guard who served two tours in Iraq. I lost friends to combat and witnessed the absolute chaos that reigns in Iraq. And YES I am against the war, and F you I won't move to France, but I will use my constitutional right to protest. Your right, soldiers in the military do swear an oath, and that's the only reason I went to Iraq and will go back if called again. I find it extremely hypocritical that you don't understand hunting but you are perfectly willing to join the military and kill human beings if asked. You are a perfect example of what I was saying in my post above, you are willing to ignore the carnage in Iraq because to protest it would be too uncomfortable for you. But, you are very willing to speak out against animal cruelty. I don't see anybody attacking your position on animal cruelty; it's a nice easy issue to stand for. Me on the other hand, I get called every name in the book because I am calling for our government to act more responsible in how they use our wonderful men and women in uniform

Posted by: Brutus | May 23, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

ok, good. You understood. Long week working and playing Mr. Mom with Mrs. 4-12 away on business. I'm fried.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 23, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I think that we have learned from all of this that CP is not a spokesman for ethics and morality. I'd rather see the crickets here than read more of this.

Next post! (Please????)

Posted by: charlie | May 23, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Much respect for what you have done, been through, and continue to do. I too have lost friends in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and I know that if the opportunity came up again, they would go again...it's their job and it's waht they have trained to do.

The one flaw with the well thought out argument is that the people that I have been trained to kill and that I would absolutely have also been trained to kill me.

I think there is a remarkable difference between putting steel on a building that is manufacturing IEDs that are blowing us up at an alarming rate. Compare that to covering yourself in leaves and deer urine hoping you can sneak up on a deer that, if they saw you, would run away in fear.

I hunt those that hunt me.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

If Vick is charged and found guilty, what is the penalty for something like that.

It cant be more that a fine and at worst a little community service

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough, you don't like hunting. I am having a very bad day and I will get off my soapbox now. I take it your probably air force if your working at Cheyenne. Thanks for your service up their in BFE.

Go Skins!!!!

Posted by: Brutus | May 23, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I am trying to build group of "Core Redskins" that will go to the local sports bar on Sunday and repesent the burgundy and gold. As terrible as it is there is a group of die hard cowboy fans and we always watch the games and rip on each other.

But Skins fans are hard to come by here. So far I have only found like three or four.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

C'mon people...

Brutus and I have put away our soap boxes (or at least painted the burgundy and gold for the time being).

Come back---we will behave

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

C'mon people...

Brutus and I have put away our soap boxes (or at least painted them burgundy and gold so they will match)

Is there no new topic??

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne - I just looked and there are no groups for Redskins fans on Meetup.com. You may want to start your own. That's how I got connected with all of the Skins fans here in the Dallas area. I found it through Redskins.com. Although, given the population of this area compared to where you are, it possibly could increase the chances of finding fellow Skins fans. Just a thought.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

I meant that there are no groups in Cheyenne.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne,
Don't take it personally; it's time for the bumper to bumper on the east coast.

Posted by: Stumped | May 23, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Local radio show host is saying Favre is way overated and most likely took steroids to reach his consecutive game streak. I thought this guy was just anti-favre but alot of callers are agreeing with him. What do you guys think? I would put Favre in my all time top 5.
1. John Elway
2. Joe Montana
3. Johnny Unitas
4. Terry Bradshaw
5. Brett Favre

Posted by: Who needs a D-Line | May 23, 2007 6:28 PM | Report abuse

That brings back horrible memories. I do not miss that commute from Tysons west in the least bit.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I would put Favre in my top 5 as well just for his "True Grit" style of play. As for the steriods thing, I have also heard the same things said about cal rypkin and his streak. I guess will never know.

Posted by: Brutus | May 23, 2007 6:35 PM | Report abuse

bigfish- You'd be having a grand ol' time tonight...there's a pile up on the dulles toll road at reston and the whole road is blocked.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 23, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

What about Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, and (gulp) Roger Staubach?

Posted by: Stumped | May 23, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I would definitely have Marino in my top 5. Does the fact that he doesn't have a ring really bump him out of the list?

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Skip the $5, $10 stuff. Not having to deal with DC area traffic - PRICELESS!

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Both Manning and Brady will most likely be in that top 5 list after their careers are over. I just can't put any current players in that category. Except for Favre because he has been in the league for 900 years anyway.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I would say no to marino.
A. Becuase he had no running game (explains the inflated stats)

B. The no ring thing effects quaterbacks legacies the most. They hold the most important position on the team.

Posted by: Brutus | May 23, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I dont condone dog fighting or hunting, but if dog fighting is morally wrong, how is hunting accepted?
Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 23, 2007 02:33 PM

i eat what i shoot. i dont shoot a deer in the face but i have been to a slaughterhouse do you know where they shoot the pig or cow before they slice its throat? how does that hormone loaded hamburger taste?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 23, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

who,
Like the top 5 except maybe for bradshaw. I would put steve youg, or maybe bart starr there instead.

Posted by: Brutus | May 23, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Marino gets a bum rap for the lack of a ring. #1 in Passing yards and TD's. #2 in completion percentage. The Dolphins didn't have a running game when he was QB. If they did then we would be talking about Marino rather than Montana.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Marino gets a bum rap for the lack of a ring. #1 in Passing yards and TD's. #2 in completion percentage. The Dolphins didn't have a running game when he was QB. If they did then we would be talking about Marino rather than Montana.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

damn double move

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Bigfish, manning and brady will definately be top 5 after they retire. You wonder if the old guys are left out becuase most of us never saw them play or becuase the modern era quaterbacks are just better.

Posted by: Brutus | May 23, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

The old guys most likely had less games in their seasons. I also didn't get to see some of them play so I can only go by stats when it comes to them. Getting to see them play adds more appreciation to their efforts.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Zebra - I guess we'd refer to you guys as being the west. But I'm not completely sure that's a geographical reference.

Posted by: kost52 | May 23, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nfl.com/ce/feature/0,3783,4498960,00.html

The age old sports dilema; comparing yesterday with today.

Posted by: Stumped | May 23, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Stumped. I'll go with the list on that sight mainly because of Sammy Baugh.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I would have Joe Theisman in my top 5.

Posted by: Homer | May 23, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Would I invite Zebra in for a penalty if I said that hopefully Soup would make the list someday? Hey - Can't help but be hopeful but that would be damn nice.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Cyn Cyty.

Yes, Smack I would say the same thing if it was Mike.

Posted by: jm220 | May 23, 2007 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I know how to draw a flag from Zebra -


Brunell would have to be on that list yeah? The record for consecutive passes is no easy feat!

Posted by: kost52 | May 23, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

smack, i'll leave it alone. for the first time :)

also speaking of cruel and prolonged ending. it's what the bush administration is doing to alberto gonzalez. it seems like the only reason they're not firing him is because they don't want my girl katie (couric) to be right.

Posted by: dealer | May 23, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Alright jm220, then I'll respect that. And you too dealer. Tough day up here. Maybe they could just train the dogs to pillow fight. Now that's something I might be willing to watch.

Where is Aikman on the Top 5? This blog is losing serious cred!

Montana
Elway
Marino
Brady
Aikman

Posted by: SMACK | May 23, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Smack, Aikman? Your asking for someone to post the link to the youtube lavar clip.

Posted by: Brutus | May 23, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Smackman,

On Top 5 lists here, Aikman is always #6!

Posted by: charlie | May 23, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

No offense SMACK, but I reckon I'd have Manning above Aikman. Not saying he's no good, just don't think he's top 5.

I'm not old enough, to discuss the old timey QB's, so I won't make a fool of myself by trying to sound like I know what I'm talking about in regards to them.

Posted by: kost52 | May 23, 2007 7:47 PM | Report abuse

I tried to find the Arrington/Aikman hit but the only things you can find are those damn Eastern Motors commercials.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

And on top 10 lists, he's #11. I get it.

And good golly, did LaVar ever hit anyone else? Even Frerotte hit a ******* wall once in a while. Better to have Aikman go out like than cling on forever, doling out interceptions and sack records to your friends, and popping more painkillers than Marilyn Monroe.

Posted by: SMACK | May 23, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I've got the Arrington - Aikman hit on my MySpace hahaha

And the Punter Hunter!

Posted by: kost52 | May 23, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - If I had built that wall, I'd probably have the Frerotte hit on my MySpace!

Posted by: kost52 | May 23, 2007 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Agreed on the old guys kost, inherent bias in not having watched them. If Manning quit right now, maybe he and Troy are about even. Let's see if BBM does more choking or winning the rest of the way. Good call on the CL final too.

Posted by: SMACK | May 23, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Stumped | May 23, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Nate, where are you man? Your Portland Sea Dogs have hit the big time. They're on the deuce because Roger Clemens is hurling. Watching this has gotta be classified as some sort of sportaholic cry for help.

Posted by: SMACK | May 23, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - Yeah, at least it was a better game than the F.A. Cup! That was painful!

Posted by: kost52 | May 23, 2007 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Uh, nevermind, that could be Portland, ME. My bad.

Kost, my dad left a rambling message about how referees are destroying soccer. It is pretty bad to announce 3 mins of stoppage, then allow a substitution, and call it after 2:42. That shabingus will never fly here in the states. Oh well, at least a Dutchman scored.

Posted by: SMACK | May 23, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Advice for Portis....

Run the damn ball!!!
Don't fumble!
Pick up the blitz!!!

Enough said.....

Posted by: sicwidit | May 23, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

SMACK,
Nate is in the PDX, not the PWM.
http://www.pdxbeavers.com/
I hope PWM SeaDogs don't fight!
(I hope the Beavers don't....nevermind)

Posted by: Stumped | May 23, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Trade Portis to the CFL. He's the property of the Redskins. They can do anything they want with him!

Posted by: JL | May 23, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Stumped. Yeah I was thinking, that must have been a hell of a bus ride for somebody. Portland v Trenton. Oh well I never said I was bright.

Posted by: SMACK | May 23, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Big fish HERE IS THE VIDEO OF AIKMAN AND LAVAR HIT http://www.redskins.torresa.com/videos/video.php?video=aikman


ps:i did it in caps for you can see it

Posted by: Alexander | May 23, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Top 5 Redskin QB's of all time.

Sonny Jurgensen
Sammy Baugh
Joe Theismann
Billy Kilmer

There is no #5
Brad Johnson one good season
Jay Schroeder ditto
Mark Rypien again, ditto

Doug Williams one great game

Heath Shuler greatest bust, disappointment, never did a thing.

They had a young Trent Green and went out and gave up a boat load for Brad Johnson who was gone in two years...

Posted by: Redskin Ray | May 23, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Alexander - Appreciate the thoughtfulness but the link doesn't work.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Ok, the IDIOT posting those comments under my name is the flaming LUNATIC I told all of you about from the Wizards blog. No one else writes something so idiotic and childish as "BWAHAHAHAHA" which he did repeatedly on the Wiz blog.

Cindy, if this keeps up, I'm all for registering as this dude is INSANE.

Posted by: Lisa | May 23, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Bigfish the links works but you have to leave the page alone for 30 sec it will say "Loading Video..." and then the Windows Media Player will pop up it works . I know it wierd.. lol

Posted by: Alexander | May 23, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Ahh - Alexander - You should have seen my face when I saw that. Like an addict getting a fix. I don't know why it didn't work when I fist tried. Thank you my friend.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Do your best to ignore, Lisa. I know it's tough, but you know we have way too much respect for you up here to give those insulting posts any notice.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

bigfish - He's the youtube link -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BynBZNiE9EA

Posted by: kost52 | May 23, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I agree Nate. Let's just hope WaPo comes up with a solution to this problem soon.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Heading to my first Portland Beavers game some time in the next few weeks.

It is virtually impossible for me to resist saying silly things like "I've got Beaver Fever."

Like Michael Scott's pathological inability to resist blurting out "That's what she said!" after any suggestive phrase is spoken.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh, didn't need it anyway, nevermind.

Posted by: kost52 | May 23, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Thanks kost. An addicts dream. Two dealers giving up the goods at once. My fix is officially fixed (for now).

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 10:28 PM | Report abuse

kost, I gather that Aussie footie, like soccer, is more egalitarian than our football, but is there a critical position akin to QB? Is there a Joe Montana-like figure who towers over the sport? Just curious how the superstar system applies.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Either Jeff Hostetler or Jeff George ranks as number 5 on that quaterback list!! haha, yea right!

Posted by: Macaca Johnson | May 23, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Nate - It's nowhere near as position based as most sports. With the exception of the Ruck position (Centre in basketball), most other positions are fairly interchangeable.

The best player in the game is Chris Judd, he is amazing, it'd be rare for anyone to say he isn't the best.

Posted by: kost52 | May 23, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

I didn't particularly enjoy today's uncomfortable thread, but I remain quite happy that we're not discussing a 'real' issue like one of the Skins running afoul of the law, a serious injury, or a dumb proposed trade. Knock wood.

Been thinking hard about charity possibilities, some way to turn the march to 100k from a silly little exercise in blog devotion into something Bigger. Any ideas welcome.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

kost, your Cats are third in the AFL ladder!

By the way, I love that there's a team called the Crows. Even cooler and meaner sounding than Ravens.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

We need to spanky Janky!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 23, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Yeah they're doing well Nate! Big game this week though, playing the team who's sitting in 2nd. We have to show we can be competitive interstate. We struggle a lot when we travel.

Chris Judd is a former Brownlow Medallist, and is currently the favourite for this years medal. The Brownlow is our version of MVP. Which we call "Best & Fairest". What happens, is that after each game, the umpires sit down and discuss who they thought the best three players were, and give them votes 3,2 and 1. The votes are then sealed in an envelope until after the regular season, and then there is a big tally night and the medal is awarded to the highest vote getter. The way "Fairest" comes into play, is that because Aussie Rules is a fairly physical game, players regularly get suspended. If a player gets suspended, they are automatically ineligible for the Brownlow.

Posted by: kost52 | May 23, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: better than Haiku | May 23, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Figured I'd just put in one more for the quest to 100k. I'll try ot help out in whatever way possible. Good night guys and gals.

Posted by: bigfish | May 23, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Portis is an f'n retard.I resent that remark about him being from mississippi and being able to go down any back road to see a dog fight,i'm from miss and it's not really true.i know there is dog fighting there ,but not like he said,there is dog fighting anywhere you go.dog fighting is cruel and should be a 1st degree felony.obviously Portis forgot that the dogs were emaciated.Vick is a looser and is overrated.hes just another me player.

Posted by: xpac69 | May 23, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Dang, those plucky Nats won big over the lousy Reds, and big Roy Hibbert is coming back to Georgetown for his senior year. Pretty good sports day in DC.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 23, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Every day I thank God that I'm blessed with a profession I love, people for whom I'm responsible, and a sense of self-respect such that I don't need the comments or ideas of others to validate or guide my life. Whether CP sounded like a back-woods country bumpkin or a Nobel laureate is of no concern; We're all entitled to say what we feel no matter how it sounds or how others feel about it.
Now, as Redskin fans we hope what comes out of a person's mouth has no affect on their performance as a player. Remember, people, they're ENTERTAINERS; Let's not trip if they say something that appears silly, because frankly we don't NEED entertainers to be 'serious' or 'profound.'
OK it's ~2109 hrs here on the Left Coast; I DID NOT watch American Idol, I'm NOT watching the 'Lost' season finale (iTunes store!), and my 7+hrs of sleep is way, way more important than any wanna-be singer or creepy people on an island.

Posted by: adinasi | May 24, 2007 12:11 AM | Report abuse

portis is making the trade of champ look worse and worse each day. if he wasn't hurt we should trade him for defensive help and go with ladell and blaylock. portis will not come back the same player from these injuries and he's as good as through in dc. he needs to go immediately. what a bad trade it was to get him.

Posted by: sin city skin | May 24, 2007 12:22 AM | Report abuse

It's a little bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

The lack of news coming from the Redskins camp, is a good thing, "no gnews is good gnews", but at the same time, the lack of news means that in the quest for 100K, we have nothing of substance to talk about!

Posted by: kost52 | May 24, 2007 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Maybe we should inject some new life into this thread...

Where does Shawn Springs get the sweet sideways hat with his number on it? The only ones I've seen fit straight forward or backwards.

Posted by: mugamack | May 24, 2007 1:11 AM | Report abuse

In figuring out what the AC in AC Milan stood for, I learned that soccer, american football, australian football, rugby, etc. all come from the same ancient game, still referred to as calcio (that would be the "C") in northern Italy.

Go figure.

Posted by: mugamack | May 24, 2007 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Is that the one Rambo played with a sheep in Afghanistan?

Is it it closer to the one in Salute of the Juggers?

Posted by: kost52 | May 24, 2007 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Muga - Just heard an interview with an Italian sports writer talking about the victory, and he kept refering to them as Milan AC, sounded strange, but maybe that's what they call them over there?

Posted by: kost52 | May 24, 2007 4:16 AM | Report abuse

Rosenhaus speaks about Portis.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10193737

Posted by: The Crickets | May 24, 2007 4:17 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Portis just isnt a big dog person, there is nothing wrong with expressing an opinion. It's not like the ring was at his house. Who cares.

Posted by: Cat Fan | May 24, 2007 5:06 AM | Report abuse

portis is a fuc**** idiot!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 5:42 AM | Report abuse

and anybody who gives excuses for portis is also a FUC**** IDIOT!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 5:49 AM | Report abuse

... and thats all I have to say about that.

Posted by: Forrest Gump | May 24, 2007 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Sometimes we find it difficult to see the good in people, places, or situations that aren't to our liking. We focus on the things we don't like in our lives as a way of fueling our efforts to create change. There is nothing inherently wrong with this, and it is one way we make progress. However, if we get too caught up in this way of looking at the world, we lose touch with our ability to sit back and simply say yes to everything on our plates, which is the true starting point for all successful activity. Sometimes what we really need is to encourage ourselves to look deeply into all things in our lives to see the inherent goodness at the heart of everything.

At the core of this inquiry is the practice of unconditional acceptance, which can be scary because we feel as if we are being asked not to change the things we don't like. But when we think this way, we are still operating on the surface of our lives. In order to feel the beauty and warmth of full acceptance, we have to be willing to sink deeper into the stratum underlying the external manifestation of our lives. This deeper place of being is the origin of all lasting change, yet its paradox is that when we are in it, we often don't feel the need to change anything. From this place, we experience the pure beauty of the process of being alive, and we see that all things change in their own time. We don't need to force anything. If there are things that we do need to change, from this place of serenity we create the shift easily, our hands guided by an energy that resides at the very center of our hearts.

In our active, goal-oriented culture, we learn to distrust stillness and to engage in busywork on the surface of life. This tendency can blind us to the good that lies at the heart of all things. But all we have to do to see again is stop for a moment, let go of our preconceptions and our agendas, and settle into the very center of our hearts, remembering that it is only from here that we can truly see.

Posted by: jm220 | May 24, 2007 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Everyone already talk about MeShawn retiring into broadcasting?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/wcStory?contentId=6524422&storyNumber=1&MSNHPHMA

I remember his commentary on the draft- I was impressed. He should do well.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: adinasi | May 24, 2007 12:11 AM

Whether CP sounded like a back-woods country bumpkin or a Nobel laureate is of no concern; We're all entitled to say what we feel no matter how it sounds or how others feel about it.
Now, as Redskin fans we hope what comes out of a person's mouth has no affect on their performance as a player. Remember, people, they're ENTERTAINERS; Let's not trip if they say something that appears silly, because frankly we don't NEED entertainers to be 'serious' or 'profound.'
-------------------------------------------

Now that is scary!
With this attitude we will treat these guys as athletes, ones who are merely to entertain us, thrill us, but not interact with us, live with us, be responsible with us.
We keep this up, before you know it, these kids won't be interested in being students first and athletes second.

We don't want that now do we?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | May 24, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

JM220- nice reality check. Is that a quote from somewhere other than your brain? It, or perhaps just its themes, sounds familiar.

Either way, my sympathies for your loss.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Ray- I'm not sure if you were intending to be sarcastic or not (my meter doesn't function before 11AM eastern).

I think both your and the previous post have merits; there is a grey area where these alternate points of view overlap. That is where most of society seems to exist.

If the later part of your post WAS sarcastic, then I completely agree.
College scholastics/athletics, especially at larger schools with major sports, has become a tragic farce.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Carson - You must be a life long politician. Youcompletely skipped over my real question a made a joke about it. Not amusing. Just like when Bush kept joking about not finding WMDs in Iraq. Why should I laugh when my step brother is there becuse of non WMDs?

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 23, 2007 04:13 PM

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And what type of logic and reasoning skills do you possess to bring Iraq, WMD, into this conversation as if you are refuting me in some way?
Talk about logical fallacy...

You reveal emotion does your talking for you. I suggest you calm down and realize none of us want war.

Oh, and while you are at it, if you want to talk politics, ask Democrats like Dick Morris and Ed Koch of NYC what they think of the Clinton Administration's reaction [or lack thereof] to numerous Terrorists attacks in the 1990's against American citizens, American military bases, even NYC, and Bill did nothing allowing the terroism problem to escalate to such epidemic proportions that 9-11 occurred.

I am not a Bush apologist, but I am about doing my homework and being fair.
Bill Clinton and Al Gore did nothing about this, responded in no forceful, strong manner and look where it got us.

You reveal you don't know the first rule about human history:
"Nothing happens overnight".
That is to say, small decisions and actions affect later decisions and actions.
While Bill was doing Monica on your tax dollars, he was doing his part in paving the way for your step brother.

Now, you want me to answer your question which is silly actually but I will.
People in the know, in their field, have set limits on what a person can hunt and kill and how much.
Thus, surely you now see the difference regarding pit bulls?

Posted by: Carson | May 24, 2007 9:22 AM | Report abuse

D7,
one of the uses of sarcasm is to illuminate the silliness of another's position / statement.

Yep, I was being sarcastic.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | May 24, 2007 9:30 AM | Report abuse

...and then the 27 8 X 10, color, glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us...

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Ray- that answers my question.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

So how serious is this push for 100thou?

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

D7 dropping the Arlo Guthrie reference... niiiiice!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 24, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Apparently, not that serious.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

D7

Thanks and the quotes are not from me.

Posted by: jm220 | May 24, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Nate- props back at ya for pickin' it up.

Aside from AR- The Pickle remains, to this day, one of the greatest songs ever written; kills me every time.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I just want to let everyone know that I'm very happy with my trip to the glue factory.

Posted by: Barbaro | May 24, 2007 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I, too, am also very happy with my trip to the glue factory.

Posted by: Mr. Ed | May 24, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Yes, yes, the significance of the pickle.

And this march to 100k, it is super-serious.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 24, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

How about NFC East predictions?

Washington..11-5*
Philly.............9-7
Dallas............8-8
NY...............6-10

*In the NFC, this is a first round bye.

Posted by: the don | May 24, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I'd show my game by game predictions, but somehow when I do that Washington's always 16-0 and Dallas is always 0-16.

Go figure.

Posted by: the don | May 24, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

** News Flash **

Its windy and boring in Cheyenne this morning. More news at 11.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

LOL- right w/ you on that one, THE DON. No matter how objective I try to be when looking at the matchups, I always find a way to justify- "it IS really possible for us to pull that one out. No way dallas wins that one; or that one. Nope..."

I agree in general w/ your prediction, although- depending on McNabb's health and productivity, I can see Philly and dallas swapping.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Man, this blog needs some serious ethos-jolting.

The march to 100k is, in the immortal words of Ming-Ming, super-sewious... I believe that Nate made a Jasno-type typo up here.

Posted by: cload and daggar | May 24, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

the don, how about just teasing us with what you think the five losses will be? Just for argument's sake?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 24, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

What about Desmond Howard as the greatest bust?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I also just decided to make a concerted effort never again to capitalize the word dallas when it's associated with the cowpies.

Feel free to chastize me if you notice slipups.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, do you actually have tumbleweeds blowing around out there?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 24, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I thought Jayne Mansfield was the greatest bust?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 24, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Yes we have tumbleweed. They look like big retarded soccer balls that go no where. As windy as it is here, those things can really pick up some speed.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 10:19 AM | Report abuse

"big retarded soccer ball[s] that go[es] nowhere"


That's what they used to call me in high school.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I'm too much like Sonny. Those 5 loses are most likely to come from a team virus or a fluke play than anyone team actually being better. If I had to pick a loss, the best I can say is
4-2 in the division
2-2 vs AFC and
5-1 remaining NFC schedule

That's the best I can do.

Posted by: the don | May 24, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

They may call you reatrded, but at least the call.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Problem is the punk CP represents the NFL and the Deadskins! You have advertisers and fans. Last thing they both need is PETA out front of the stadiums committing terrorists acts and protesting. Or a boycott of firms who advertise during the games. AR lobby is very strong and very well organized. The NFL is smart in not wanting to deal with these terrorists who want to deny everyone the right to have a dog or cat as a pet. Check out the proposed Cali law AB 1634. NFL needs o sit Vick down for the whole season.

Posted by: vaherder | May 24, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

hey, at least he capitalized the D in "Deadskins"

I think there is room cor conversion here.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

If PETA owned an NFL team, what would they name it?

Posted by: the don | May 24, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I'm a billionaire tyrant, all hail and kneel before me!!!

Posted by: Rupert Murdoch | May 24, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

The Raging Maniacs....The Unintelligible Meatsacs...


Wait wait, wait....ready?

THE BREAD!!!!!!!!!

(get it, PETA Bre...
Awesome.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I was waiting for that.

Posted by: the don | May 24, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Desmond Howard can never be the biggest bust. HE was once SB MVP.

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 24, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Skinz | May 24, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Desmond Howard can never be the biggest bust. HE was once SB MVP.

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 24, 2007 10:41 AM


Oh no! Not this again. :-}

Posted by: LH | May 24, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I have to agree with 4th. He didn't work out well for us. Howard did win the MVP and if I not mistaken made a couple of Pro Bowls.

Posted by: jm220 | May 24, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

The skins are underrated by many, but a few a starting to come around. They'll surprise a lot of people after they start 4-0. And no, I'm not refering to preseaon. The first 8 games the avg margin of victory for the skins will be +6, but after everything is clicking, it'll be +10 by the end of the season.

I'm on the kool-aid and it taste so sweet.

Posted by: the don | May 24, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Now is the time for dreaming big, the don. I salute your unabashed optimism!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 24, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Howard was a bust for the skins, just not a total NFL failure. He found his niche, but should never have gone before the third round.

Posted by: the don | May 24, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I just want to let everyone know that I'm very happy with my trip to the glue factory.

Posted by: Barbaro | May 24, 2007 09:55 AM

I, too, am also very happy with my trip to the glue factory.

Posted by: Mr. Ed | May 24, 2007 09:59 AM

All animals are equal, but I have found some are less equal at the glue factory.

Posted by: Boxer | May 24, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone hear what Clinton Portis said about the Michael Vick dog fighting thing?

(just kidding)

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

the don- If they start 4-0, that will certainly jolt the ethos of my blog name.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 24, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

4-12, but not until the week after the following week ...

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

For those who've received the following but are not familiar:

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IMHO- it's not worth it. If I remember correctly, this is just a big tent w/ picnic tables and flatscreens. Nothing real cool.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

The Don is wrong! The 'skins will put up points like crazy. Their opponents will play catch up and put the ball in the air. The DBs will have career seasons. GiGi will look like a genius, Saunders will look like a genius, Gibbs will look like a genius, Snyder will look lik a gen- (well never mind that part). We will be gnashing our teeth because none of us went out and bought Super Bowl tix. And the talking heads? They'll be falling all over one another 'splainin' how it should have been obvious that the 'skins were hobbled by injuries and that the Saunders offense always takes a year and...

Posted by: Neil in Durango | May 24, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I'm thinking the Skins have quite a few LBs on the roster, from last year, from free agency, and from the draft. I think we might have us a bona fide LB controversy, at least on the outsides. Fletcher seems like the only lock to start. I know Washington is back to practice, but until we know better about his recovery, I think he only gets pencil for the strong side spot. The chatter about H.B. Blades is that he's really mostly cut out to be in the middle (for height reasons). So how long do you all predict before the Skins settle in on the WLB starter for the season? I'm thinking we won't know until the cut down to 53 guys. Marshall has played all over the place, but seems to have been second-guessed out of a guaranteed starting spot by the addition of Fletcher. Hopes are high for RockyMac, but he does have that business with the knee surgeries (plural), plus the 'retention' on the side line for real D till the final game. This will be Khary Campbell's 6th year, but somehow he was not able to outcompete Warrick Holdman of all people. Dallas Sartz was the Skins' second draftee and he plays outside, but the draftee buzz is higher about Blades.

Also, does this decision get made by Grilliams b/c Olvadotti is the new kid (presumably unassisted by Lindsay ... RIP [retire in peace])?

Finally, would this have been a good one to submit as a guest blog?

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Wait- I just read that whole thing- sorry. Are these actually "Club" seats? If so, than I have no direct experience and can only say that I sha'nt be purchasing these for financial reasons.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Sween- I think the majority of it swings on Washington's health. If he's not ready to go, I see Marshall filling in- as he's played inside and outside and could probably handle it. If Washington IS at full force, competition will be interesting.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Neil in Durango let me drink a lil more of this red kool-aid. I see your points and I'll gladly be wrong to you.

Posted by: the don | May 24, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Its being reported that if Bubba Franks dosen't win the starting job, he'll be cut.

Here is our #2 TE.

Comments or questions?

(LH - You know I wouldn't let you guys claim Howard as a bust)

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 24, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

The real question for 4-12 is does he go to 5-0, or 5-11, or 16-0, or 11-5 at the end of the 4th game?

Posted by: cload and daggar | May 24, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Skinz,
Nice read. Now as long as that story goes unnoticed, everything will be fine and the Don's predictions may pan out.

Posted by: Stumped | May 24, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Someone actually has something positive to say about the Deadskins?????

All praises are due to the almighty Gibbs 2.4 for his forward thinking on these important issues.

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 24, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, while I'm tired of the constant negativity thrown our way in the press, I'm OK with everyone thinking we'll not be very good this year. Off the radar, baby.

Posted by: D7 | May 24, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray, allow me to be more specific.
I think what CP was ignorant. If I were a friend, a TRUE friend of his, I'd tell him that. Yet, he has Constitutional freedom to state what he believes, but be prepared for the consequences. The real problem with this isn't CP, but US. We consume way too much time focusing upon the travails of athletes and entertainers, and often assign way too much importance to their actions and words. When you think about it, I could easily see our Commander in Chief mangling something like CP (which is always scary), but when athletes or entertainers do it we shouldn't get riled up about it.
In reality how many of us 'live' with them? I can celebrate CP's competitiveness and on-field accomplishments, but unless I know him more I'd hesitate inviting him to a school to speak to children.

Posted by: adinasi | May 24, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm confident Clinton Portis does believe what he said for two reasons: (a) he addressed topics that went beyond the actual interview questions asked; (b) he has not actually retracted his words.

Posted by: Jim Giddings | May 24, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Interesting link from Skinz - Brunell as an ass et?

Posted by: Pat Fischer | May 24, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Really.

"A third defensive end who can rush the passer."

"Reynaldo Wynn"

Really.

Posted by: mugamack | May 24, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Any changes in the Cheyenne weather situation? Still windy?

Posted by: the don | May 24, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

It's actually a gorgeous day today. Way too nice to be stuck in my windowless office.

Going mountain climbing tomorrow though and with the exception of the possibility of falling to my death should be a pretty good time

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Finally, would this have been a good one to submit as a guest blog?

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 11:29 AM

Yes, under two conditions.

First, you need to flesh out the LB stuff further. For example, "Now that Blades has arrived, has Khary lost his MLB backup slot?" Or, "Is RockyMac set at WLB or is the position still open?

Second, you would need to forward your tax-deductible $5.00 donation check for the RI/NOLA Relief Fund to Cindy. All donations must be received prior to guest blogs being posted.

Posted by: PT | May 24, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Day Two since the "statement" to the press, and Dr. Z is reporting it like its news. I hate that our highest salaried player gives Dr. Z oxygen to rip on the Skins.

Also, re Bubba Franks, the reason he got cut is b/c the Packers got someone better to start ahead of him. I've been fine with Yoder, but then the Skins drafted a TE, signed a 2 year vet and an undrafted rookie ... and also cut Zach Hilton, so I don't see them making the investment for Bubba Franks. I remember Hilton (I think it was him) being on Jason's list of predictions ("Crystal Ball"), but don't remember him thinking about Franks.

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Geez. Now Portis is on the "front page" of SI.com.

So stupid that this won't go away. Where's Monica Lewinsky when you need her?

Posted by: charlie | May 24, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Say, any of you fruitcakes know where I could get a tossed salad?

Posted by: daveb55 | May 24, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

PORTIS DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

HEYSOOS!!!!!!!!!

and i love dogs.

Posted by: dealer | May 24, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

JLaC did not predict Zach Hilton, but it is interesting to see what he did predict. He is doing fairly well.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/02/the_cyrstal_ball.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/03/the_crystal_ball_redux.html

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

We like mountain climbing.

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Posted by: PT | May 24, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I say the Dr. Z article and thought the same thing. And he starts it by saying the story that won't go away, like he wants it to. What a moron, if you don't write about it (two days after everybody else wrote about it) it might just go away! He mentions that they apaulogized but says that they can stick it. So lets just pick and choose which statements we talk about, and blast any others that might detract from the point that you are trying to make. I just don't like Dr. Z

Posted by: gethanr13 | May 24, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Flying is much better that climbing

Posted by: Buddy Holly, Stevie Ray Vaughn, and JFK Jr. | May 24, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

We can all just take my car

Posted by: Princess Diana | May 24, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Crikey, you guys forgot to mention how much fun swimming can be!

Posted by: The Croc Hunter | May 24, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

If you don't like my stories than don't read em. It's a free country. Also don't worry Redskins fans, me and my pal Peter King will do everything in our power to keep your beloved, but average, Art Monk OUT of the Hall Of Fame.

Posted by: Dr. Z | May 24, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

We'll bring the goodies.

Posted by: Jimmy Hendrix and Janis Joplin | May 24, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

And don't forget about skiing!!

Posted by: Sonny Bono | May 24, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

We'll bring what Jimmy and Janis are brining.

Posted by: Jim Morrison and Kurt Cobain | May 24, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Z - That's exactly why the owners' committee will be removing you and King from the voters list. Why do you think Snyder campaigned so hard for a committee spot? You'll have a lot more time to drink wine - very soon.

Posted by: VC | May 24, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Can someone help me find my head before we leave?

Posted by: Kurt Cobain | May 24, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I have a lifetime pass to stay on the HOF voters list. The only way they'll ever get me off that is is by prying it from my cold, dead hands!!!!!!

Posted by: Dr. Z | May 24, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Kurt, It's over here honey.

Posted by: Courtney Love | May 24, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone seen my daddy, Danny Tanner?

Posted by: Mary-Kate Olsen | May 24, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

You guys are D!cks

Posted by: Adolph Hitler | May 24, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Suit yourself...

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | May 24, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Sween - This guy is a vet. You can never have too many TEs. You didn't give a real reason for us to not sign him. We can sign as many peeps as we want (almost) right now.

You're fine with Yoder, YET the team is trying to despately upgrade TEs behind Coooooley.....

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 24, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I love the Detroit Tigers, that and having a butler.

Posted by: Magnum P.I. | May 24, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I know you are, but what am I?

Posted by: Pee-Wee Herman | May 24, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Z, Get a clue - your lifetime ended years ago. We are just getting it around to making it official later this year.

Posted by: VC | May 24, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Magnum P.I.'s butler was an idiot.

Posted by: Mr. Belvedere | May 24, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I live on a plantation in Hawaii and ration sugar in tiny packets.

Posted by: God | May 24, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I truly love the theatre!

Posted by: Abe Lincoln | May 24, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I think that stating you will never vote players into the HOF before they are even done playing, automatically disqualifies you from being on the committee.

Posted by: gethanr13 | May 24, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Hey Belvedere, atleast MY butlers name isn't Lynn. Atleast my butler didn't have to work for some slack-jawed yokel baseball annoucner. Isn't that right, you tea-drinking Brit!!!

Posted by: Magnum P.I. | May 24, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

God - You are a despicable racist!! Where's my daddy Al when I need him?

Posted by: Ticked Off | May 24, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

# 88
Bubba Franks
Position: TE
Height: 6-6
Weight: 265
Born: 01/06/1978
College: Miami (Fla.)
NFL Experience: 8

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187388

Sure, but can he block efficiently? Looks like he is starting to slow down a bit as he approaches 30.

Posted by: Otter | May 24, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I meant to say that it should disqualify you.

Posted by: gethanr13 | May 24, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

On Bubba Franks, I was just predicting, not playing Amateur GM (my other fake day job). The only amateur GMing I was doing was voicing my support for Yoder. Seems like he has the keys to the #2 spot so its his salary and skill set that sets the threshold for #2. Franks was due a higher salary (which is the other reason he got whacked). As far as signing another TE from another team's roster, I said it before, and now its even truer (since they signed the guy from The U), the guy I'd want is last year's #2 TE in Chicago. [And like my laziness about not researching Franks, I'm too lazy to remember that Bears' player's name ... Gilmore maybe?]

I figured that the Skins had up to the number of guys they are allowed to keep on the roster, and that's why whenever they sign someone, they have to cut someone.

[... and to beat the "this blog stinks" poster to the punch ... did someone sign the pickles? because this blog cut the cheese.]

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Dr Z.
"Art Monk is another four-timer. A great possession receiver. Caught a lot of balls in Joe Gibbs' system. Every time I mention that I didn't vote for him because I simply felt that other people were more deserving than a guy who caught 900 eight-yard hooks, I wake up all the Washington diehards, who start screaming about my anti-Redskins bias. Start stirring, you folk out there. It will happen again. "

The tone of your previous post makes me think you're a hypocrite with some kind of an axe to grind. Well reasoned in print perhaps...unbiased, objective now I'm not so sure. Monks achievements will stand for them selves, HoF or not.

Posted by: Stumped | May 24, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Magnum,

Don't make Lynn Belvedere angry---you wouldnt like him when he's angry

Posted by: Bruce Banner | May 24, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

If I had my way NO REDSKIN would ever be in the HOF. Take that clowns.

Posted by: Dr. Z | May 24, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I can beat up both Magnum's butler and Belvedere

Posted by: Super Dave | May 24, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

quack quack quack quack I did a movie with a young, but still talented, Lea Thompson quack quack quack quack quack quack

Posted by: Howard the Duck | May 24, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Violence is not the answer.

Posted by: O.J. Simpson | May 24, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Howard the Duck was a stupid movie

Posted by: Gigli | May 24, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I hate Homer Simpson, his factory owning son, and the fact that his family has lobsters for dinner!!! All the while I have to live in an apartment above a bowling alley that is below another bowling alley.

Posted by: Frank Grimes | May 24, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone seen my movie titled "Man Getting Hit with Football"???

Posted by: Hans Moleman | May 24, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Stupid is as stupid does.

Posted by: Forrest Gump | May 24, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

We need a new post!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Agreed...a new post

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Hi, my name is New Post. How is everyone doing today?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I'll get serious about this 100K thing as the time draws nigh, but I'm already bored by celebrity statements. At LEAST keep them relevant to football.
_________

Homer: (reading Hank's letter) "Project Arcturus couldn't have succeeded without you. This will get you a little closer to that dream of yours. It's not the [Washington Redskins], but it's a start. Drop me a line if you're on the East Coast, Hank Scorpio." (a whole football team is on his lawn) Aw, the Denver Broncos?!
Marge: I think owning the Denver Broncos is pretty good.
Homer: (disheartened) Yeah, yeah.
Marge: Well, explain to me why it isn't.
Homer: (sighs) You just don't understand football, Marge.
____

p.s. I had to edit the actual team name for obvious reasons.

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I love carpet...I love desk...I love lamp.

Posted by: Brick Tamland | May 24, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Sween - You are correct on signing and cutting peeps. But that will happen throughout the summer.

If we are weak anywhere, it is the #2 TE position. That could be one of the most important positions on the offense (If you ask Gibbs 2.4). Why should we leave it to Yoder when we can get an experinced vet who might want to prove himself so he can get his last big contract??

The guy is only 29 years old. That is not downhill for TEs. He's just tired of being in Green Bay.....

Posted by: 4th | May 24, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Scorpio was one heck of a boss. I especially like the time when he pointed me towards the Hammock District that time when I was looking for some business hammocks.

Posted by: Homer J. Simpson | May 24, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I would like to extend to you an invitation to the pants party.....The... party. With the... with the pants. Party with pants?

Posted by: Brick Tamland | May 24, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Is that you FINAL answer?

Posted by: Regis | May 24, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

But I think it was the Packers who got tired of Mr. Franks, rather than vice versa.

Personally, I'd love if the Skins had a three TE package (or two TEs and Mike Sellers). The soft spot in Ds is that place just behind the MLB and in front of the FS in the center of the field. Load THAT box with receivers and its a multi-car pile up in the middle and/or one of the WRs on the sideline pops open.

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Anyone down with playing a game of Hole in 1.........or 2?

Posted by: Bob Barker | May 24, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Bubba Franks stinks!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bubba Gump | May 24, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Who will be the first "big name" cut for the Skins?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Hello Adinasi,
sounds like we are not that far apart.
The fact you would invite CP to speak to kids is certainly understood by me.
And my point is that CP revealed in his relativism "do whatever you want" that he does not think through an issue at all.
No one does whose answers is do whatever you want.
Thanks for the clarity Adinasi.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne,

Hopefully it will be Vinny!

Posted by: gethanr13 | May 24, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Anyone down for a game of PLINKO?

Posted by: Bob Barker | May 24, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Thanks a lot Cheyenne. I was flying under the radar until now with all the Portis dog fighting chatter.

Posted by: Shawn Springs | May 24, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Tune in tonight when I take the LIBERAL media to task in the patented NO SPIN ZONE!!!!!!

anyone know where I can get some loofa's?

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly | May 24, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, if not Springs (as widely feared, but perhaps less so given the new going rate for #1 CBs), I'm thinking Big Joe and/or Reynaldo Wynn. I don't know if they count as "big name", but they both started at one point. I gotta think that if Marshall's days were numbered, he would be swapped in a trade rather than cut. The other guys whose tenure I worry about are Thrash and Rock Cartwright.

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

There was speculation (if I remember right) about Vinny getting the axe after the draft.

I think Portis, although his comments were stupid, is a victim of a slow sports news cycle. Honestly I thought the Giambi thing would have taken more of a center stage than Portis

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Bill O'Reilly today's WORST PERSON IN THE WORLDDDDD!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Keith Olberman | May 24, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

The thing is that Giambi already admitted to using steroids to congress, just never directly to the media.

Posted by: gethanr13 | May 24, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Cartwright would be a shock for me. It seems like last year was one of there better years as far as special teams. I know Rock and Thrash play a big role in special teams play.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I know the Giambi thing isnt necessarily new, but with Bonds being so close to Hank Aaron, I thought there would be a surge in Steroids talk.

Posted by: Cheyenne WY | May 24, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

venison cuts are nice

Posted by: ill eat store bought but damn some who kills | May 24, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I know exactly how many of you Redskins Insider bloggers are on MY list.

Posted by: D.C. Madam | May 24, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

New Post!

Posted by: gethanr13 | May 24, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Sween - You are the Worst Amatuer GM on the Blog!!

Wynn just took a pay cut and Thrash is the Ultimate Core Redskins. Only Ultimate Core Redskins don't get cut.

Posted by: 4th | May 24, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, football is simply more newsworthy than baseball ... even in football's offseason.

I definitely agree that this past season was one of the best in recent memory re: special teams play, esp. when measured by relative field position after change of possession. Rock, in particular, had his best year yet. I just worry whether special teams play can reserve a roster spot, esp. b/c for depth chart purposes, special teams are backups at other positions and it seems that those other positional needs dictate which special teamers can stay and which have to go. I've never been fond of Jimoh's play as a corner, so I can only guess that its his special teams play that has kept him around for this long. [Jimoh made the roster over Walt Harris, Matt Bowen, and Omar Stoutmire. I still don't get that.]

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Cartright is far more versatile than a Ade Jimoh is.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

New Post!

Posted by: gethanr13 | May 24, 2007 03:33 PM

Haha, just kidding! Did I get anybody?

Posted by: gethanr13 | May 24, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

sign the dancing bear

Posted by: myron talbert | May 24, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

...one of the WRs on the sideline pops open.

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 03:19 PM

Yes, that's exactly what Sean Taylor does.

Posted by: cload and daggar | May 24, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

4th, those were predictions, not amateur GM moves. June 1st is next week, so we will know who got what right soon enough. [That said, I predict only one, maybe two, guys from last year's roster get whacked and the rest will be the new guys.]

Maybe I'm wrong on that. Is there a roster number that teams have to be at by June 1 or is it the salary cap number (for the top 51 (or 53?) highest paid players)?

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

4th I love you. wanna get married and make babies?

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

4th, when did we inaugurate the Ultimate Core Redskin designation? I love it. It reminds me of Double-secret Probation.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 24, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who doesn't find Danica Patrick particularly attractive?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 24, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Of course they are going to say she's hot...there is no one in the sport to compare her to.

Posted by: Cheyenne,. WY | May 24, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

June 1st isn't what it use to be since you can cut up to 2 players before 06/01 and designate them as post june 1st cuts for salary cap purposes. We have only cut 1 player like that so far (Patten).

Joe Salavea might be the one to get cut unless he is already playing for the vet min, then we def shouldn't cut him.

I think that fumble he caused in Tampa on the 1st possesion of the 2nd half proves what kind of player he can be. I would keep him for the vet min only, though....

Cartwright has not demostrated he can step up when on offesnse, save for one game. All other games he fumbles (like Betts)....

Posted by: 4th | May 24, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

All of the non sequitur posts would be good if they were even a little funny. Sadly, they are just as lame as those posting them.

Posted by: PT | May 24, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

re: Walt Harris. Stop with the revisionist history! He was dinged up a lot, and got lit up early in 2005 when Springs was dinged up.
No one wanted to see him stick around more than I did (for purely non-football reasons); but there was no way to defend his play after 2005 -- Gibbs/Grilliams would have been burned at the stake if they kept him around.

Posted by: cload and daggar | May 24, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Ho much of the fumbling bug falls back on coaching. Look what coaching did for Tiki Barber.

Maybe Ernest Byner should make some adjustments.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Those who post comments commenting on the lameness of posters and posts are just as much, if not more, lame.

Posted by: Stupid is as Stupid does | May 24, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Sween, I doubt that was you since you usually leave a comma after you call out the person you talk to (I would have declined any way even though we would be a perfect match since we never agree on anything :-)

NAte - Just made it up. I like it though since core redskins hardly get resigned......

Posted by: 4th | May 24, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs/Grilliams would have been burned at the stake if they kept him around.


Posted by: cload and daggar | May 24, 2007 03:48 PM

Not if he came out like he did for Chicago.

Posted by: Cheyenne, Wy | May 24, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Of course they are going to say she's hot...there is no one in the sport to compare her to.

Posted by: Cheyenne,. WY | May 24, 2007 03:45 PM

Uh, I guess you haven't seen Sarah Fisher and Milka Duno who are also racing in the Indy 500.

Got Milka? I wish.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Thius may be a smidge off topic, but on this board, ON topic is the rare exception, so....

Here's some thoughts re: LOST based on last night's 2 hour season finale. (SPOILERS)

The actor who plays Charlie must have ticked someone off.

Hurley has actually gained weight, ruining plans for his "Hurley's Lost Island Shed Pounds in Days Diet" Book.

The guy who plays Ben is the best actor of the bunch. Sawyer gives good simmer and Desmond works his accent well but they killed off the most appealing female, and Mathews as Jack isn't that good an actor with a fake beard covering his manly chinline..

Did anyone really think they'd be dumb enough to off Locke?

The 48 Episodes over three years that remain are probably twice again too many. By the second year, they'll be "borrowing" Law and Order and Survivor plots. By the third, they'll be redoing "My Mother the Car" episodes.

Well it was a real nice vacation with pay for the two hotties running the underwater jamming station.

Rather than have an underwater jamming station, wouldn't it be easier for Ben to, um, turn off the message being broadcast from the radio tower?

Geez, how long has that Walt kid been gone? He looked about 30 last night.

Whoever thought up the idea of killing off major characters during May sweeps should get a royalty check from all episodic TV producers, since it helps keep actors in line all year long.

Highlight of next season? Rosie O'Donnell kills Ben with her bare hands and leads the Others in a Lesbian Bacchanal (not that there's anything wrong with that.)

Who brings a hand grenade along to an unerwater power station?

Did "Lost" lose a bet to hire former/present "Las Vegas" actors? There were two last night.

The Flash Forward wasn't exactly "The Sixth Sense." Tabloid media and Paparazzi would dog JACK'S every step after his heroic "rescue" on the bridge, him being the guy missing for all those years on that mysterious island.

In the coffin at the funeral no one attended? Eleanor Rigby. Giving the sermon that no one would hear? Father MacKensie.

Hey Ben, nice hand picked war party. Ten crack combat experienced fighters and they were all killed by an Iraqi, a dentist, a Korean fisherman and a fat guy in a VW.

Don't underestimate Elizabeth Mitchell's tossaway line about building a runway "for the aliens." I think the Darma Iniative are UFO people. Sent to earth to save it from the, um, Electromagnetic Pulse and Chucky Cheese.

Who sponsored last nights deathfest, the NRA?

Kate or Juliet? Without makeup, Kate. With, Juliet.

How did Charlie know to start "Good Vibrations" in the middle, and not from the beginning, which would NOT have cancelled the jamming device, but instead, opened every garage door in the South Pacific?

No one will be swimming near the island soon. All those sharks that were jumped over last night are still furious.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

4th, the 3:41 post is an imposter. I know that both of us are already married and making babies. The reason I worry about Thrash getting the axe are because (1) its going to be his 10th season and (2) Gibbs-Saunders put the game into Patten's hands rather than Thrash's. I like Cartwright for his KR game, but I think they brought in Kyle Brown to compete the spot. Cartwright is young (5th year, no significant injury) so my concern would be to keep him away from other teams, esp. NFC East. Big Joe? I can't disagree with what you've said.

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

what's with Loseable type repeating words on line breaks? I don't mind the double posts so much, but we get no extra credit for the increased word count!

Ciinnnnndddyyyyyy!!!!! [ to the tune of Luuuucccyyyy!!!]

Posted by: cload and daggar | May 24, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Um, I did the LOST dealie. Forgot a byline.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 24, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Pardon the ignorance, I don't watch much racing. Left turns kind of creep me out

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Vicariously I live through this blog.

Posted by: Maynard James Keenan | May 24, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Salave'a DT 0.720 0.167 0.006 0.893

Salave'a appears to be signed at minimum.

Posted by: Otter | May 24, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

cload, I can honestly say I am not being revisionist when I say that it would have been better (AT THAT TIME) to keep Harris rather than Jimoh. Admittedly, hindsight makes the statement ring even more true, but I'm done with Jimoh as a CB. I'm fairly confident that, if the Skins cut Jimoh, he would not "pull a Walt Harris" on them.

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

In 2007 the minimum salary for rookie or first-year players is $285,000; second year is $360,000; third year is $435,000; fourth year is $510,000; fifth-year through seventh year is $595,000; eighth year through 10th year is $720,000; and 11th year and longer is $820,000.

Posted by: Otter | May 24, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Agree with dcsween...Jimoh just don't have it when it comes to the CB position.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 24, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

9. Do all players on a teams roster count against the salary cap?

Between the start of a league year (around March 1) and opening day only the 51 highest paid players count against the Salary Cap, even though the team could have up to 80 players on the roster at times. Prorated bonus amounts from players not on the top 51 salaries and any dead cap money also counts during this period. This is called the "Rule of 51". From opening day until the end of the season all players on the roster (including injured reserve) and practice squad count against the cap.

The June 1st date only is important with respect to spreading cap hits (dead money) across two seasons for players being released. With the new rules (two slots for June 1st designations), the actual arrival of June 1st is less important. Translation: fewer cuts than usual are expected.

Posted by: Otter | May 24, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Not if he came out like he did for Chicago.


Posted by: Cheyenne, Wy | May 24, 2007 03:50 PM

Or SF -- eight interceptions would've made him a local hero. But reality intercedes...

Posted by: cload and daggar | May 24, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

13. How does the veteran minimum salary system work?

The system was implemented to make it less costly to retain older veterans at the minimum salary. Under this new system, the Salary Cap count for a player with four or more Credited Seasons who signs a contract will be the same as the count for a player with two Credited Seasons.

The difference between the Salary Cap count for a qualifying contract and the stated minimum for the qualifying player's years of service will be counted as a Player Benefit and as such is not charged against the teams Salary Cap.

What veteran contracts qualify for this system? A new, one year contract at the minimum signed after previous contract has expired or has been terminated. Additional compensation is limited to a maximum per year total of $40,000, including allocated signing bonus, roster bonus, reporting bonus and any incentives clauses. In 2009 this amount rises to $50,000.

Posted by: Otter | May 24, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

New Post!

Posted by: Dave | May 24, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Jimoh played special teams more than Harris. That is prob why we kept him. Harris wasn't 100% covered from his knee injury. But YOU ALL SAW (Pre Blog years) HOW AWFUL HE WAS IN TACKLING.

You have to remember, he now plays in a different defensive scheme also. Let him repeat his performance this year and I will concede we should have kept him. Until then, good riddance (True History)

Posted by: 4th | May 24, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

When a new post arrives, it should be titled, "Memorial Day Weekend Blahs"

Posted by: Otter | May 24, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Me thinks Cindy already went on vacation.......

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 24, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

We need to keep waiting for a new post, which will arrive shortly after Godot does.

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

The play has been retitled, "Waiting for Goodell".

Posted by: Otter | May 24, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Look on the bright side. It counts towards the 100k.

Posted by: Impersonators | May 24, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Please go to NFL.com and vote for me as the 3rd-year player most ready to break out in 2007.

Posted by: Jason Campbell | May 24, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs LOVES James Thrash. LOVES HIM.

Posted by: Lisa | May 24, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mugamack | May 24, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Just voted for you JC! You're in 4th right now(4th!). While voting I looked up the FAQ about Comcast switching NFLN to an additional pay service. The funny question is #5....

1. I'm a Comcast customer and have access to NFL Network. I heard that Comcast is moving NFL Network to their Sports Entertainment Package, is this true?

Yes, it's true. Despite NFL Network's objections, Comcast has begun to notify customers they plan on moving NFL Network to their Sports Entertainment Package within the next 60 days.

2. What does this mean to Comcast customers? Will I have to pay extra to receive NFL Network when I previously had it as part of my digital cable package?

Comcast's decision to move NFL Network to their Sports Entertainment Package means you will have to pay approximately $5 more per month to continue to get NFL Network.

3. Will I still have free access to NFL Network On Demand?

No. Comcast's decision to move NFL Network also means that you will no longer have free access to NFL Network On Demand highlights. NFL Network On Demand content will only be available to Comcast consumers who typically pay $5 more per month for Comcast's Sports Entertainment Package.

4. Why is this happening?

Last year, Comcast asserted that it had a right under its contract with NFL Network to distribute the service only as part of its approximately $5 specialty sports tier, and to take it away from the digital basic subscribers who have received it as part of their regular service package. NFL Network believed Comcast's contract interpretation was wrong and brought a lawsuit to try to prevent Comcast from moving NFL Network to a sports tier. The court recently decided that Comcast's contract gave it the right to move NFL Network to a sports tier. Comcast has decided to do so, even though that decision means that you, the Comcast customer, will have to pay more to get NFL Network - and that if you decide to stick with your digital basic service, you will be receiving less content (no NFL Network) for the same price.

5. I heard Comcast owns sport networks like Versus and The Golf Channel, and requires that they be included in broad packages sold to most if not all customers on Comcast and other cable systems, regardless of whether those customers are interested in the Tour de France, or hunting, or hockey. Isn't it disingenuous of Comcast to charge customers typically $5 per month to get sports networks that they don't own, like NFL Network, while forcing customers to pay for Comcast's networks whether they want them or not?

Yes, it is.

6. What can I do if I disagree with Comcast's decision to put NFL Network on their Sports Entertainment package?

Call Comcast at 1-800-COMCAST (1-800-266-2278) and tell them you want NFL Network kept in your current cable package or you expect them to rebate you for NFL Network. Tell them you don't want to pay approximately $5 more per month to get NFL Network and their Sports Entertainment package. NFL Network is available as part of the basic package of networks on Dish Network (1-888-825-2557) and DIRECTV (1-888-777-2454). Call and switch today.

Posted by: 4th Floor | May 24, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, I feel the same way about Thrash, but as a father of young girls, I have become increasingly prone to worry. Also, search this page for BWAHA - you should find only your posting :)

4:54PM, at the bottom where they talk about the new WR they signed, I got nervous when I read too fast on the name of the guy who got cut ... Cornelius Rogers.

Posted by: dcsween | May 24, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Lisa.....o'.....Lisa.....I have come to get you......come out.....come out where ever you are.....BWAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: ? | May 24, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

dcsween, I think both Thrash and Rock are reasonably safe. We'll go into the season with 4 RB's and 5 WR's. Right now Rock would be the No.4 RB, so unless one of these rookie FA's absolutely blows everyone away. Rock should be safe. As for Thrash, right now he'd be sitting No.4 on a list of 5, he WILL be safe.

Posted by: kost52 | May 24, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Cindy,
Can you describe for us how we might enforce the blog rules? I know you're reluctant to do so and we all like a truly open RI forum, but I'm a newcomer and I'm already sick of the posers, trolls and some of the puerile anonymous posts. I think they event cheapen the goal to reach 100k.

Would we just register with the blog? How do the controls work? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

Posted by: Stumped | May 24, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mugamack | May 24, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Stumped | May 24, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

cheyenne, i usually read your posts and think "this guy knows what he's talking about", but you sent my blood pressure boiling today with that crack about "if you don't like war, move to France."
it's too ignorant, too neo-con, too George freakin' Bush to rebut.
go to the back of the gene pool, brother, before you spread that b.s. into the general population.
before i sign off, answer me one question, Rambo. what part of "defending the American way of life" are you missing? maybe the one that says we're all entitled to an opinion?

Posted by: flipthatswitch | May 24, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Muga,

"Run the living snot out of it"

That's what I like hearing!

Posted by: kost52 | May 24, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Cindy,
Can you describe for us how we might enforce the blog rules? I know you're reluctant to do so and we all like a truly open RI forum, but I'm a newcomer and I'm already sick of the posers, trolls and some of the puerile anonymous posts. I think they event cheapen the goal to reach 100k.

Would we just register with the blog? How do the controls work? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

Posted by: Stumped | May 24, 2007 06:44 PM


Neat, my grandmother is posting on RI blog under the name stumped!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray, how can you have a top 5 Redskins list, leave Art Monk and Darrell Green off of it, and then say "there is no #5?"
WTF?

Posted by: flipthatswitch | May 24, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

It was good to be reminded that some of the those games were so close. I hope the team can keep it together against teams with a good running game.

Posted by: Stumped | May 24, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

NEWS FLASH:

The only "core" Redskin appears to be Rocky McIntosh, unless you can marginally count Ethan "Red Delicious" Albright and "Jonathan" Jansen.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Here is a pic of the female indy drivers. I agree the girl on the left is much hotter than Danica.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0705/gallery.women.of.indy/content.1.html

Posted by: cdubb | May 24, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who doesn't find the Rutgers women's basketball team particularly attractive?

Posted by: Don Imus | May 24, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

flipthatswitch -

That particular Redskins list is QB's

Posted by: kost52 | May 24, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

How COOL would it have been had James Earl Jones done a couple of Planet Earth episodes?!! James Earl Jones and Planet Earth in HD! Yummmmm!

Posted by: dealer | May 24, 2007 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who doesn't find Danica Patrick particularly attractive?

nate my boy, you are a boobs guy. otherwise her face is quite attractive.

Posted by: dealer | May 24, 2007 8:53 PM | Report abuse

i'm watching Omen with julia styles. SPOOKY! black and cherry red!

Posted by: dealer | May 24, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Especially with the helmet on!

Posted by: kost52 | May 24, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

how much can you usually pay to see the Skins lately i am in pa but would like to try and get one maybe at the stadium has anyone bought one off a scalper there lately as in last season? i know dallas would be more but any of the others?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I like Danica because she can actually drive. The fact that she is pretty good at what she does makes her more attractive. Kind of like Sharapova over Kournikova. Kournikova is a human calendar whereas Sharapova will whoop your ass.

Oh who am I kidding, you gotta go with Kournikova. And I know nothing about racing either.

Posted by: SMACK | May 24, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

put me in the POOOcket!

Posted by: some DC rapper | May 24, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

The IQ of this blog is declining.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

the driver on the left would get the throat gravy

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

I know nothing about racing either, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. One of many "sports" I would argue doesn't fit in that catergory.

I was just after a cheap laugh, I don't mind her.

Posted by: kost52 | May 24, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

i am still out here if anyone cares. far to busy at work and now way to many posts behind to make any real commentary.i need some real news to et back in the game so to speak.

Posted by: Old School | May 24, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I, personally, don't care.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

HAIL TO THE WASHINGTON COWBOYS

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

It's eerily quiet isn't it Old School, I'm not sure if it's like this every season at this time of the year or not. It's like we're in the eye of the storm, and some day soon, something massive is going to happen!

Posted by: kost52 | May 24, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Right. I've got my eye on you.

Posted by: H. Katrina | May 24, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Wow. We sure have some guy who is trying REALLY hard to nominate himself RI comedian.

Anyways kost, I NEVER in my life thought about the Skins in the offseason everyday until this blog came along. Until the training camp begins, there's just going to have to be a lot of "meaningless" posts and crickets.

Posted by: charlie | May 24, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I smell

Posted by: The Blog | May 24, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I was offered an IQ, and I declined.

Bada bing.

Posted by: SMACK | May 24, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

My Top 5 Skins of all time
(and these may not be the best, but they're my favorites based on significant times of my life and the skins lining up with them).

1. Mark Rypien (I know, I know-- Sonny Jerguson was the man, but I'm a Rypien loyalist!)
2. Art Monk
3. Gary Clark
4. Dexter Manley
5. John Riggins

Speaking of Mark Rypien-- what is he up to these days? I know his son passed away a few years back and he kind of faded out (and then backed up Peyton Manning in Indy)-- any news?

Posted by: TDawg623 | May 24, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

5 more-- Darrell Green, ARE, Santana Moss, Stephen Davis, and CHAMP BAILEY.

Posted by: TDawg623 | May 24, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

kost, SMACK,

Word on the street is that the Dutch national team will be playing an exhibition here this summer. FYI

Posted by: bangkokben | May 24, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

What is an IQ? I wash myself with a rag on a stick.

Posted by: Slow Boy | May 24, 2007 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Wade Makes Move to Left Guard
By Gary Fitzgerald
Redskins.com
May 23, 2007


When Todd Wade opted to re-sign with the Redskins last March, the longtime offensive tackle agreed to move to left guard.
Wade, a seven-year NFL veteran, has never played guard in his pro career. There's a reason for that. His 6-8, 317-pound frame appears to be best-suited for playing tackle.

Moving inside, he'll be the tallest guard in the NFL. Derrick Dockery, who started at left guard last year before departing to Buffalo via free agency, stood at 6-6, so there won't be a significant difference.


Todd Wade (Don Wright Photo)
With tackles Chris Samuels and Jon Jansen entrenched on the Redskins' offensive line, Wade knew his only chance for a starting opportunity was at guard.

On the interior, Wade will need to angle his body lower to get better leverage against burly defensive tackles.

"I'm 6-8, so it's something I have to deal with," he said. "I feel like I'm doing a good job of it--playing lower to the ground--but I'm not where I want to be yet. I just need to focus on my technique and go from there."

Any difficulty for quarterback Jason Campbell, who stands at 6-5 himself?

"He shouldn't have a problem with [seeing over me]--it's more about me blocking my [opponent] and staying lower than they are," he said. "So I haven't been hit in the back of the head with any passes yet."

Wade first joined the Redskins just prior to the 2006 season, adding quality depth at tackle. He was coming off a 2005 knee injury and had been released by the Houston Texans.

He backed up Jansen last season, starting one game when Jansen was sidelined with a hip injury.

Wade's strong blocking Week 15 at New Orleans--a 16-10 win for the Redskins--impressed Redskins coaches and convinced them that Wade was worth retaining. To replace Dockery, coaches wanted a veteran, and Wade fit the bill.

Earlier this offseason, Wade made no secret that he wanted to land a starting job at tackle. In the end, it was the Redskins that offered the best chance to start, even though it was at guard.

"There was [some hesitation]," Wade admitted. "It's something I spoke with Coach [Joe] Gibbs about, and when I decided to come back here, I decided to be a guard 100 percent."

It should help that he has familiarity with Samuels, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas and Jansen.

"It definitely helps out that we've played together for a while," he said. "It's the same terminology, too. I'm getting better each day."

Wade is expected to compete for the left guard spot with Mike Pucillo, Will Whitticker, Taylor Whitley and Ross Tucker in training camp.

Should Wade earn the left guard job, he'll make his first start at guard against the Miami Dolphins on Sept. 9. Wade began his NFL career as a second-round draft choice of the Dolphins in 2000.

Posted by: Where is all the Redskins news???? | May 24, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

News & Notes: Fletcher In Transition Mode
By Gary Fitzgerald
Redskins.com
May 24, 2007


Who brings the most energy to the Redskins' defense? Until recently, it was certainly linebacker Marcus Washington.
Washington was, after all, once called the "Energizer Bunny" by assistant head coach-defense Gregg Williams.


London Fletcher (Don Wright Photo)
With the arrival of London Fletcher this offseason, Washington may have a challenger.

It has only been a couple of months, but it's clear that Fletcher brings another brand of energy to the Redskins' defense.

While Washington gets teammates revved up, Fletcher makes sure they are intense and focused.

Through three weeks of OTAs, Fletcher is meshing well with teammates.

"These practices are actually real critical for me," he said. "To be here just working out [in the weight room] with the guys is one thing, but to be out on the practice field is really important. I can get a feel for the guys, their tendencies and what they do best. Now, because of the practices, I feel part of the team.

"It has been a good change for me. Change brings excitement. It keeps you on your toes."

Fletcher originally signed with the Redskins on March 4, joining a defense that struggled last season. The unit finished 29th overall in the NFL in 2006.

It is hoped that Fletcher, who played for St. Louis from 1999-2001 and Buffalo from 2002-06, will shore up the middle of the Redskins' defense and serve as a quarterback of Williams' defense.

Fletcher will be counted on to make play calls at the line of scrimmage and push his teammates to make sure defenders are all on the same page.

It's that tyoe of leadership that drew the Redskins to Fletcher. He already has familiarity with the Redskins' defensive coaching staff, having played for Williams and secondary coaches Jerry Gray and Steve Jackson in Buffalo.

"I feel as comfortable as I can after nine OTA practices," Fletcher said. "The transition has been smooth, but we still have a lot of work to do. I still have a lot of work to do getting comfortable with the playbook and with my teammates.

Added defensive lineman Renaldo Wynn: "When he got here, he fit right in. It's kind of amazing how fast he has picked up the defense and how he has gotten the communication down. He puts guys in place. He'll definitely be a good fit for us."

But who brings more energy--Fletcher or Washington?

"Marcus," Wynn said. "He has the belt."


-- REDSKINS SIGN WR MITCHELL
The Redskins have signed rookie wide receiver Terry Mitchell, the team announced on Thursday. Mitchell takes the roster spot of offensive lineman Cornelius Rogers, who was released.

Mitchell, 6-2 and 210 pounds, attended Grand Valley State where he accumulated 53 receptions for 1,045 yards and 15 touchdowns.

Prior to his two years at Grand Valley State, he spent two seasons at Harper Junior College where he was part of back-to-back NJCAA National Championship teams.

Mitchell is a native of Port Huron, Michigan attending Port Huron High School.

Posted by: Can I get a job to cover the Redskins???? | May 24, 2007 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Bangkokben, I remember the Oranje playing here in DC in the 94 Cup. God what a great time that was. I was walking, yes walking, from Rosslyn to RFK, and some Dutch guys asked me where they could buy some orange sheets for the game.

I had to tell them, man, I have never seen orange sheets in this country.

HUP HUP ORANJE

Posted by: SMACK | May 24, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Good stuff! We don't get many internationals out here, due to travel distance and time of year. We generally play a lot of our friendlies in England since a large base of our players play in Europe and there's a big ex-pat community over there.

We were meant be playing Argentina here, but it's since been cancelled. Bugger.

Soccer is just starting to find it's feet over here. We've recently re-vamped our league, and the relative success from the World Cup, has put soccer into the spotlight big time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOp6fHrY4k8&mode=related&search=

Watching this again just made me tear up. Was such a big moment in Aussie sport.

Posted by: kost52 | May 24, 2007 11:55 PM | Report abuse

are you interested in a dutch oven?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2007 11:57 PM | Report abuse

There there, kost, my money's on Oz against the US anyday. Against Holland, well try to keep it to single digits.

Posted by: SMACK | May 24, 2007 11:59 PM | Report abuse

wanker

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2007 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Finally got a chance to go through the 2007 Cowboys' schedule. 14-2. Sorry folks, park's closed.

Posted by: SMACK | May 25, 2007 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Yeah I'd agree on that, although if something freaky happened and it came to a penalty shoot out, I'd be taking Oz. We just have to make sure Mark Viduka doesn't take any of them, in the game against Uruguay it came off his shin!

How do you think we'll go in the EuroCup? All I want, is to play Portugal in the knockout stages, and knock them out!

Posted by: kost52 | May 25, 2007 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Top 10 Skins:
1) Sammy Baugh (before my time, but a true gunslinger)
2) Bobby Mitchell (would have thrived in a Joe Gibbs offense; the Joe Washington of the 60's)
3) Darrell Green: a true game-changer on defense and special teams
4) Charley Taylor (did it all, had it all: size, speed, toughness)
5) Russ Grimm (had to choose a Hog; most consistent over their glory years)
6) Sonny Jergensen(no body slung the rock like he did)
7) Mark Mosley (clutch, clutch, clutch)
8) Art Monk (Marvin Harrison with slightly less speed?)
9) Dexter Manley (you had to account for him)
10) Doug Williams (outside of the historical significance of that Super Bowl, when he was healthy could fling it like Sonny, yet commanded great respect from the players. A sentimental choice, but I still remember telling folks at work before the SB 'if we don't turn it over, it won't be close.')

Back to CP:
He better play lights-out All Pro this year, or we'll see a lot of Ladell Betts busting that '50 gut' or '70 chip' or whatever '07 version Saunders has up his sleeve.

When I see 'posted by Jason Campbell' my first response is 'yeah, right.' But given how forthright and respectful was the request, I guess he was the real deal. Instead of voting I'd rather have you sneak up on people and surprise them, and by then the 'Skins will be 5-1 or maybe 7-2. By then people should be saying 'Tony who?', because my gut says JC has way more leadership potential than flash-in-the-pan bobble boy.

Posted by: adinasi | May 25, 2007 12:33 AM | Report abuse

smack, 14-2, eh? ... is that because after going 0-2, Leonard Davis eats Tony Romo (who gets too close to the plate of Buffalo Wings), so brad Johnson can come in and save the day?
Which quarter does Jerry pistol-whip Phillips and take over the team?

Posted by: cload and daggar | May 25, 2007 12:34 AM | Report abuse

LMGO. One at a time!

Posted by: SMACK | May 25, 2007 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Cload, you don't want to get between me and a buffet either. I once got thrown out of a Sizzler in Alexandria for mini-muffin depletion.

Posted by: SMACK | May 25, 2007 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Well, that's Alexandria for you. You've gotta get out to Manassas, where they take that sort of thing as a professional challenge.

Posted by: cload and daggar | May 25, 2007 12:53 AM | Report abuse

I just thought that SMACK's prediction of 14-2 was the scoreline against the Skins in Dallas? But come on SMACK, I'm sure your 'boys will score more than 2 points! Let's make it 14-3.

Posted by: kost52 | May 25, 2007 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Paul TAJ | May 25, 2007 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Good article on team depth, with a few good words about the Skins.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10193430

Posted by: The Crickets | May 25, 2007 4:25 AM | Report abuse

Wonder if Goodell is embarrassed for Marvin Lewis also.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2881996

Posted by: The Crickets | May 25, 2007 4:29 AM | Report abuse

Good article on the positive effects of QB efficiency. Somehow, Brunell's 67% at 3.3 yds/comp. didn't get any notice. (Sorry, Lisa.)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2881407

Posted by: The Crickets | May 25, 2007 4:37 AM | Report abuse

NFL Defensive Tackle News

Kris Jenkins' future with the Carolina Panthers was put in doubt again Wednesday. NFL agent Drew Rosenhaus, whose client Damione Lewis could benefit from Jenkins' departure, told the Observer that he believes the team still hopes to trade Jenkins. "I don't have any insight on it, but what I've heard is he's definitely still on the market and for the right price, they would trade him," Rosenhaus said before speaking at a Charlotte Touchdown Club luncheon. "So it'll be interesting to see what happens." Sources said the Panthers made Jenkins, a three-time Pro Bowler, available to other teams for a first-round pick before and during the NFL draft last month, but didn't receive a satisfactory offer. Team officials have since said Jenkins would remain with the team. General manager Marty Hurney reiterated that position Wednesday, but stopped short of fully denying Rosenhaus' comments.
Posted May 24, by Ben Maller/foxsports.com

Posted by: The Crickets | May 25, 2007 4:47 AM | Report abuse

SMACK with the Vacation reference! Wow.

That movie's theme song 'Holiday Road' by Lindsay Buckingham never fails to lift my spirits when it rolls around on the ipod. Fantastic song, irresistible pop goodness.

I want the Skins-Boys season finale to be 'meaningful' -- like, real playoff stakes on the line, for both teams. Not a prediction, but that would mean a pretty exciting season for us.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 25, 2007 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Lindsey with an 'e.'

"I found out long ago
It's a long way down the holiday road
Holiday ro-ooo-ooooooo-oooo-oad..."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 25, 2007 8:26 AM | Report abuse

5 TCCL's for a *new post*

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 25, 2007 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray, how can you have a top 5 Redskins list, leave Art Monk and Darrell Green off of it, and then say "there is no #5?"
WTF?

Posted by: flipthatswitch | May 24, 2007 07:55 PM
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Hello Flipthatswitch,
How can I? Quite easily actually.
I did not!

Goodness, read my post, it read Top 5 Redskin QB's of all time

Naturally if I was talking Top Redskins:
I would have to have included such folks as
JOhn Riggins
Darrell Green
Dave Butz
Art Monk
Charley Taylor
Ken Houston
Jim Lachey etc. etc.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | May 25, 2007 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Carson:

Those political comments you made way up the thread 1) had nothing to do with football, and 2) were lies culled straight from bad documentaries. The Republican Congress ot the 90s was a much bigger obstacle to fighting terror than Clinton's lies about his sex life (oh, and I liked how you said Bill was getting action "on our dime"...even though the White House was where he lived at the time).

Just sayin'.

Back to football: I think the Redskins offense will surprise a lot of people. I just hope the Redskins' defense is even more surprisingly good, given last season's meltdown.

For all those bringing up the Bailey-Portis trade and saying Portis should leave: get real. FOR THE LAST TIME: BAILEY HAD NO INTENTION OF RE-SIGNING WITH THE REDSKINS. It was either trade him, or get nothing when he left - or franchise him, which is incredibly risky because players hate it. They got the best player they could for Bailey.

Portis is a better all-around back than Betts. He blocks better, he enjoys hitting people, and (unlike Betts) he won't look the wrong way in the backfield while Soup gets crushed and forces an interception to Brian Dawkins. Portis is a home-run-hitting back; Betts is not. Betts is a notorious fumbler; Portis barely ever fumbles. I'd rather play with Portis and Betts than with Betts as the only lead back.

I've written an B comparison here before, but I thought it could use some repeating. Dog-fighting jokes don't change the reality of the situation.

Posted by: jcabana | May 25, 2007 12:25 PM | Report abuse

That last line should have said "I've written an RB comparison here before". D'oh.

Posted by: jcabana | May 25, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Jcanba declared:
Those political comments you made way up the thread 1) had nothing to do with football, and 2) were lies culled straight from bad documentaries. The Republican Congress ot the 90s was a much bigger obstacle to fighting terror than Clinton's lies about his sex life
?????????????????????????????????????????

1- didn't have to be; I was responding to one who brought up GWB as the reason for his relative being in a war on terror

2- Bad documenaries?
Go back and trace the numerous attacks by Islamic terrorists groups on American bases, planes, ships, NYC and tell us what Bill and Al determined would be a strong approach for the good of the USA?
They were both encouraged yes, by even Democrats to stand up and do something.
Neither did.

It is true, and just because you couldn't defend your position you resort to saying it was lies.

Sorry, Democratic Insiders under Al and Bill like Dick Morris have even verified their weak backbone to take long-term intiatives.

It is true, if you want to live in denial, you can be like John Edwards and believe "there is no war on terror it is a political slogan a bumper sticker" etc.

Or perhaps you didn't know Edwards actually stated that this past week?

Posted by: Carson | May 27, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Carson:

Right -- and the Republican Congress during those years was sooooo much tougher! Oh, if only they'd been in charge, everything would have been different! Just like things were different between 2000 and 9-11. Oh wait -- they weren't.

It's always nice to blame someone else when something bad happens on your watch (in the case of the W Bush team). Too bad that doesn't give him a free pass.

The fact is that the events leading up to 9-11 are not nearly as political or as partisan as you make them out to be. It's a fact of human nature. No politician wants to make a bold move to correct a problem until they absolutely have to. Instead, they take simple, less-risky measures. The management of most organizations on the planet does this. It's called "satisficing" - maybe you've heard of it. Clinton took some small measures against terror. When Bush took office in 2000 -- with a Republican congress backing him -- he took arguably *fewer* small measures than Clinton did. Then 9-11 happened, and a U.S. president finally got off his arse and did something.

Too bad it was all the wrong things.

The "long-term initiatives" you allude to have barely made a dent in the threat to this country. We aren't any safer today than we were back then. Our transportation systems are no safer, our food and water supplies are no safer, etc. Numerous studies have shown this to be true. Oh, and we're stuck in a mostly-stupid, horribly-managed war with the wrong country. Even after a terror attack, the leaders of this country (on BOTH sides) are STILL satisficing, because it's the easiest route to take.

By the way, Edwards is right. You can't fight a "war on terror". The notion is absurd. Fighting a war on terror is like fighing a war on sorrow. You can't fight a war on a concept/tactic.

But hey, you can choose to live in a dream world where one side of the aisle is mostly good and blameless, while the other is totally bad. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Posted by: jcabana | May 30, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Hey,4thfloor
I,thought we were talking about CP,
leave my COWBOYS out of it!!!!!!1

Posted by: CWBOYFAN33 | June 1, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

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