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Morocco Brown

Wanted to post some more about Morocco Brown, the Skins new director of pro personnel (and thus the No. 3 football man in the organization; or No. 4 if you count the owner). I hear the Skins will announce Brown's hiring - reported by us last night - as soon as this afternoon.

Like I mentioned briefly yesterday while I was reporting on Brown's hiring, he has a sparkling reputation around the league and is definitely seen as a potential leader of an organization down the road. He will be a major force in the scouting and acquisition of professional talent, and the import of the reshaping of this front office, to me, has been the biggest development of this entire offseason for the Redskins.

The Bears were loathe to lose Brown, but they did not have an opening or a title available to match Washington's vacancy, and he's someone who they think very highly of and want to see succeed. Spent almost an hour on the phone this morning with Melvin Bratton, a former personnel director with the Redskins and one of Brown's mentors. Bratton said the Arizona Cardinals were also hot for Brown, with GM Rod Graves interviewing him for a pro director job, but Brown already has strong ties to Vinny Cerrato (Brown interned for Cerrato from 1999-2001) as well as the team and this area (Brown is a native of Hampton and his brother, Milan, coaches men's b-ball at Mt. St. Mary's in MD).

I plan on writing a big feature on Brown at some point early next month once he starts with the Skins (he's technically still under contract to the Bears until the end of the month and thus he can't really speak about his new position very openly yet), but figured I'd give you guys a sketch on him for now. Based on everything I've heard - and my reporting always carries the day in terms on my analysis of anything on this blog - you've got to give Cerrato full marks for making what appears to be an inspired hire.

Bratton and Cerrato first came into contact with Brown in 1999. Cerrato had just come to power with Dan Snyder taking over ownership of the team, and he was looking for a young kid intern in pro personnel. The budget for the position was scant - about $350 a week, Bratton said - so they wanted a local kid (no relocation costs involved). Brown had spent time as a low-level intern with the Colts after failed attempts to make the Steelers and catch on with a CFL team (he was a LB at NC State).

Right around that same time, Carl Francis, a friend of Brown's family who is also from the Hampton area (Francis is the head of communications for the NFLPA, called his pal Bratton. Francis raved about Brown and asked Bratton - the Skins pro personnel director at the time - if they had any openings. Serendipitous, eh?

Bratton brought in Brown for an interview and was blown away.

"His football savvy and knowledge, he was just so impressive," said Bratton, who now helps recruit and mentor talent for DeBartolo Sports, a major agency that represents NFL players. And at the time as the pro director it was very difficult to say no to the kid. So I went to Vinny and said, 'This kid is good. Let's make this work. Let's get him in anyway possible.

"I fought for him to get a little more money and Vinny was able to come up a little bit on him. I said to Rock (Brown's nickname), 'Look, this job is not really paying, but it could turn out to be something big.'"

Living in NoVa on $350 a week was obviously impossible, but Brown bunked in with Skins corner Lloyd Harrison, a fellow NC State product and put in long hours, trying to milk as much knowledge as possible from Bratton and Cerrato.

"It was amazing - I'd keep my door cracked when I was working and every single time this kid would come in," Bratton said, "and come sit up under me and ask what was I doing, why was I watching this tape? To me it was nerve racking at the time, but I had to step back and realize that this kid really wants it. He wasn't just somebody to pick pick guys up guys from the airport and be a gopher - he did that stuff - but as soon as he finished he's in my office to watch tape and learn to write pro reports and evaluate talent."

Brown would sit there with a notepad, absorbing everything he could. When discussing players he would remember if Bratton had changed his grade from the last time they spoke and push him to explain his opinions.

"He has a savvy attention to detail," Bratton said.

As Brown progressed Bratton gave him his first big opportunity to flex. Bratton let Brown scout all of the linebackers available in free agency in 2000, and then present his reports to the entire coaching and football operations staff at their meetings, including Cerrato and Dan Snyder.

"I trusted the kid to do the linebackers and gave him the opportunity to stand on the dance floor and make the best of it," Bratton said. "I knew he would do a good job and he did an excellent job to the point where he outshined me. (Defensive coordinator) Ray Rhodes and those guys started coming to him and asking questions and trusting his opinion and it made me feel good. I was proud of him. It was a blessing to have a kid like this fall into our lap."

But Norv Turner was fired late in the 2000 season and the franchise was in transition when Marty Schottenheimer took over full control of coaching and personnel in 2001. Cerrato was fired and the Redskins were soon interviewing potential replacements for Bratton while he was still occupying his office. Brown was worried, knowing his mentors were on their way out. He was engaged to be married and had little money, fretting about his future, and Bratton gave him a pep talk.

He told the sulking youngster that he couldn't be content to be seen as Cerrato's guy, or Bratton's guy, and wait for them to land another job elsewhere so that he could come along. He urged Brown to do whatever possible to impress Schottenheimer, which he quickly did.

Schottenhiemer eventually offered Brown a contract after becoming impressed with his work ethic and knowledge, but other wheels were turning. Former Redskin coach and scout Bobby DePaul was with the Eagles football ops in 2001, and was one of the people brought to Redskins Park interview for Bratton's job. Bratton and DePaul are friends and when Bratton learned DePaul was coming to town he gave Brown more sage advice.

Bratton knew Brown would be the person picking DePaul up from the airport, and they would have some time alone.

"I told him when you pick this guy up, make sure you look right and you sell yourself in that car ride from the airport," Bratton said. "You talk football and let him know how you'll do things and he did that. I told him you get tape for him and get him coffee and serve that guy. Make sure if he takes the job that he'll be looking at you to be with him."

Oddly, during the day of his interview here DePaul got a call from the Chicago Bears, offering the director of pro personnel job there under Jerry Angelo. DePaul, a Maryland native, ended up taking the Chicago job, but he didn't forget about his time with Brown. DePaul needed two young assistants under him in Chicago, and his first call was to Bratton.

"Bobby called me and offered me the assistant pro personnel job, and at time the salary didn't make sense and it would have been a step backward," Bratton said. "But before I hung phone up I knew it would be the perfect shot for Morocco. So I said, 'Listen, Bobby, there's a kid in this building who is very impressive and I think you had a chance to meet him, he picked you up (at the airport).

"Before I could say anything else he jumped right in - 'Morocco Brown,' Bobby said, 'You're just confirming what I was already thinking, but I had nobody else to talk to who knew the kid. You're verifying what I thought.' He said, 'That's my guy. Thank you.'"

At the time the Bears were putting in a request to interview Brown, the Redskins were working to keep him. Again, there was a limited budget to work with, but Schottenheimer tried to get Brown to sign a contract to stay in the organization, Bratton said, but once the Bears received permission to contact him directly the discrepancy in offers was too significant not to go to Chicago.

"Marty did a heck of a job trying to keep the kid here, but it was a no-brainer," Bratton said. "The money and the title wasn't here, it was in Chicago. Morocco was nervous and the new kid on the block and didn't really understand the whole process. He had nothing at the time."

Brown was hired as Chicago's assistant director of pro personnel in 2001, but would have never left if Bratton and/or Cerrato had remained in Washington, Bratton said. (Cerrato came back to the front office a year later, in 2002, after Snyder fired Schottenheimer).

"If we had stayed here, no, no, no, no, no way Morocco leaves," Bratton said. "I would have been kicking in doors and scraping like a cat trying to get him whatever it took to keep him. We saw how talented this kid could be.

"Rock was my confirmation guy. He'd help me confirm my grades on a certain guy. I remember in (April 2000 linebacker) Antonio Pierce didn't get drafted and the kid was shocked as heck. So I said, 'Rock, throw some tape of this kid on and tell us what you think.' He watched the tape and said, 'This kid can play. We need to try to get this kid.'

"We ended up offering Antonio more money as a free agent than what was normal. We knew he was getting married and planning a wedding and knew that he thought he was going to get drafted and get a bonus, and Morocco was a linebacker and really saw the potential there and he was a part of the process to sign him."

(For any newcomers here, Pierce ended up becoming a starter and, to me, was Washington's MVP in 2004. He was allowed to sign with the Giants and was a big part of that team winning a Super Bowl.)

Bratton lauded Brown's keen eye, willingness to stand by his grade and stand by his principles. Even on those dysfunctional teams of the early 2000s - the collection of aging, overpaid former stars like Deion Sanders and Bruce Smith and Jeff George - Brown was popular. Those older players gravitated to the passionate youngster, Bratton said, and Sanders remains a close friend of his.

"Normally those kind of Pro Bowl guys wouldn't spend no time with a young guy like that, but they saw his personality and who he was and Deion every day would come by my office to say hello to Morocco and took a special interest in him."

Brown has two young children, Bratton said, and is a highly spiritual man. Bratton said he has no interest in partying or the limelight and is thoroughly dedicated to his craft.

Brown was seen a shining star in the Bears front office, someone relied upon for his opinions and theories, and a part of the organization that went to the Super Bowl a few years back. I'll be making more calls on him in the coming days, and, again, plan to write something on him for the paper early next month.

By Jason La Canfora  |  May 20, 2008; 1:44 PM ET
 
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Comments

First!

Posted by: Jack | May 20, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

sounds like a sound move

Posted by: Gregskins | May 20, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand, maybe this is semantics, but he's the #3 football personnel man, right? Because Jim Zorn reports directly to Vinny?

Where's the doggone updated org chart?

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I meant to say, it's Cerrato - Campbell - Brown in one part of the org chart, and Zorn is in another part of the org chart altogether... or something. Or whatever. Not trying to get all corporate. Just glad we jumped threads.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/05/redskins_vs_washington_post_pa.html

The only one JLA is less than a douche than is Larry Michael.

Posted by: Redskins vrs. Post | May 20, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Again with the "Rock" thing.

We have two Rocks and a Rocky now. Something's gotta give.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Say YES to great Skins news.

This is too funny.

"Based on everything I've heard - and my reporting always carries the day in terms on my analysis of anything on this blog - you've got to give Cerrato full marks for making what appears to be an inspired hire."

Posted by: Stumped | May 20, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/05/redskins_vs_washington_post_pa.html

The only one JLA is less than a douche than is Larry Michael.

Posted by: Redskins vrs. Post | May 20, 2008 2:10 PM

Now THATS some funny stuff.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

This all sounds like good news! Maybe the FO is starting to do things right. Also I am impressed with the bloggers that are willing to give Zorn a chance.

Posted by: Keyskonnection | May 20, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Good stuff.

Posted by: RIV | May 20, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Nate- Not sure it's the updated org chart yo're looking for, but it IS likely to pull MV Dame out of hiding.

http://blog.kir.com/archives/images/Notre%20Dame%20chartB.gif

- .250

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

So did Brown have a good opinion in the Bears' trade for Archuleta? Because if he did, oh boy...help us all....

Posted by: Alberto | May 20, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Yes, sometimes I don't like it when JLa goes on one of his "trips", but nothing makes me more pissed than a "yes man".

I remember a few months back I was listening to ESPN radio, and I heard that ass pimple and his sidekick, brad-whats-his-face, and they were talking about a story that didn't make the Skins look to well. Of course larry michael starts to question the story (who ran it, who wrote it, etc.). His sidekick told him the post, and that it was on a blog. Well, larry gets pissy and suggest that if a "story" is posted on a blog, does that make it real? He then went on to say how he should create a blog and how people will believe it because its on the internet.

I immediately thought "What a douche". It was so, so obvious that he was taking a jab at JLa. My thing is if you're going to talk ish' about some one, why do it through subliminal comments.

i'll be cool with someone who will put a spin on things here and there, than a spineless, brown nosing "yes man".

what a tool. geesh, I'm so pissed right now!

Posted by: F Larry Michael and the Zebra he rode in on. | May 20, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

One interesting question, or maybe not: How much of this change in the front office was suggested by Gibbs as he walked out the door? Or was there no Gibbs influence?

Posted by: John D in Houston | May 20, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

from the previous thread ...

Just what exactly, does, "being like Greg" entail ...

Posted by: Greg | May 20, 2008 11:33 AM

having bonus points to spare

Posted by: dcsween | May 20, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Was that the story or the screen play?

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 20, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

You have no idea how many bonus points I have...they seem to be multiplying like bunnies when I'm not around.....

Posted by: Greg | May 20, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I know Rock personally, he is one of the smartest football people in the world. the Skins will be much improved with him. Go get em Bubba

Posted by: Jason | May 20, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

First, thank you Jasno, I was drowning on that last blog.

Second, you are going to do a bigger write up than this on Brown next month???

WOW!!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 20, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

We think JLC gets some trash here imagine what Larry Michael would get on a blog if he had one. 4 words. Regularly Scheduled Death Threats.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 20, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Seems like a good hire; I'm pleased since the easiest way to know you got someone decent is to have their previous employer be sad to see them go, which is unusual for us. I just hope this translates to something good in the long run in the personnel dept. (i.e. no more horrendous screw ups). Better get back to class.

Posted by: Karen | May 20, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

So,
The Redskins are holding on to and using their draft picks and are getting serious about scouting.

(Hmmm, is that light I see at the end of the tunnel?)

Posted by: Stumped | May 20, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

(Hmmm, is that light I see at the end of the tunnel?)

Posted by: Stumped | May 20, 2008 2:41 PM

No the Doctor finally figured out that there was a badger up dan snyders ass. Used a minced meat pie to get it out.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 20, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

This Morocco Brown fella sounds like quite a "talent evaluator" ... just sayin'...

This can only be good news. Kudos to K-Ninjeratto for making it happen, and if money was anything close to an issue on the Arizona front, kudos to The Owner as well.

Note to Mr. Brown: First assignment, uncover a defensive end to step in for Phillip Daniels when the time comes. Second assignment (and this is the tough one), fire the janitor and find one who works EVEN HARDER!

Posted by: dcsween | May 20, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I actually like mince meat pie.....

Posted by: Greg | May 20, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

******Based on everything I've heard - and my reporting always carries the day in terms on my analysis of anything on this blog - you've got to give Cerrato full marks for making what appears to be an inspired hire.*****

I had to re-read this several times just to make sure I was reading this correctly coming from JLac. Nice!!

A very nice post Jason, not that my opinion matters, but since I criticize at times, I should give kudos as well!

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 20, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Norv for Janitor, aww he would mess that up too.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 20, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, I would love to see the Skins become one of the teams that does all of its scouting internally. I know that Baltimore and one other team (can't remember which ... Indy?) does ... and that those two teams don't pay into the two scouting operations that the other thirty teams used (BIMCO? BALCO? NALCO? something like that ... don't remember the other one). My recollection is that the Combine is put on by one of those two scouting groups, i.e., its only nominally a "League" event because they contract out for it.

Posted by: dcsween | May 20, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Alex,
So will Danny be more agreeable now?

And what's become of the stinking, mince-meat-eating badger? Does he have his own talk show?

Posted by: Stumped | May 20, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Interesting article on scouting and Colt Brennan. If we could get a 1st day pick out of this pick, then the 2008 draft would not look so bad 3 years from now.

http://mvn.com/nfl-redskins/2008/05/20/why-dont-nfl-scouts-like-colt-brennan/

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 20, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

On the topic of ass badgers, has anyone else here seen "Salton Sea" with Val Kilmer and Vincent D'Onofrio? D'Onofrio's character is one of the best movie bad guys I've ever seen. [Its a movie about the meth culture.] Plus, there is a scene involving a badger ...

Posted by: dcsween | May 20, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Well after a brief visit to Wisconsin, and a failed attempted coup of that more famous football badger, I hear the Badger wandered north towards the Canada border looking for free healthcare and good pot, and had a beaver up there he was hoping to shack up with.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 20, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Greg, in case you want to see that article I linked to above:

Why Don't NFL Scouts Like Colt Brennan?
By Greg Trippiedi | May 20th, 2008

NFL Scouting is a tricky issue to evaluate. In a multi-million dollar industry, they don't make a whole lot of money. Most scouts do what they do because they love what they do. That much is commendable really.

But NFL Scouts are rarely held responsible for their own evaluations. And that has led to a culture where no one really improves over time. It's a culture where doing it their way has become more important than doing the best job they can.

No one is expected to be perfect -- but a better track record would be nice for those teams that perennially draft busts and finish below .500. Scott Campbell, the former director of college scouting -- now the director of player personnel -- for the Redskins has done a great job in his craft, and the Redskins have avoided drafting a major bust since 2002 with Taylor Jacobs.

Ultimately though, every team in the NFL had a scouting consensus that Colt Brennan was not a first day pick. Not even a first 5 round pick. Brennan wasn't the only Quarterback with stats that indicate NFL success who slipped in the draft. Green Bay and Miami landed prototype franchise QBs in the second round. Andre Woodson, a 3.5 year starter at Kentucky, actually fell further than Brennan. I could do a very long post on why all these guys got overlooked by scouts, but only one of those guys is a Redskin, so I will focus on him.

First a disclaimer: The fatal error many scouts make comes when they just don't have enough film to grade on, but pass judgment anyway. Obviously this isn't the case with Brennan. Colt was one of the most celebrated/nitpicked QBs in modern college history. Scouts simply just don't like him. Obviously it's not his body of work, that's astounding. There's another reason that makes scouts shy away from him. Could it be:

Brennan Struggled in Big Games

This is a horrible argument. For the longest time, this was the knock on Peyton Manning -- the greatest QB in modern history. The reason this is such a bad argument is that a "big game" is totally 100% subjective. Certainly, Bowl Games should be considered big games, but what about major conference games? Heck, what about every D-I college football game every played?! I'd say that's pretty large scale. Any scout who is willing to limit his tape evaluation to 2-3 games is going to be wrong a large percentage of the time, pure and simple.

Colt's Numbers are Inflated by the Spread Offense

This makes a little more sense, but the concept of inflated numbers is a bit odd. Obviously, counting stats like touchdowns, yards, and interceptions can be inflated by the amount of times a guy throws, and research has shown that a guy who throws 60 times a game gains no more college experience than a QB who starts the same amount of games, but only throws 35 times a game.

Rate stats, such as yards per attempt, and completion percentage, can not be inflated. For those, the more times a player throws, the stronger our confidence gets in the accuracy of the number. Colt Brennan's completion percentage isn't quite as impressive as his TD totals suggest it should be, but for his career, it's still in the upper 60's. I mean, at the very least, he deserved strong consideration in the second round based on that alone.

Colt didn't play any serious competition at Hawaii

This is a legitimate reason for concern, but scouts are seemingly missing the point: this is a reason for re-evaluation-not to write a guy off. Chad Pennington, Jim Kelly, and Daunte Culpepper all came out of small schools to face pretty good competition. Maybe the quality of competition that Joe Flacco saw in the Atlantic-10 was a tad better than what Brennan saw in the WAC, but it doesn't make sense to totally write Brennan off while drafting Flacco 18th overall.

Colt has Skeletons in his Closet

I hate the whole concept of character issues affecting draft stock. These kids are young, feel invulnerable, and are prone to making mistakes. Brennan got booted from Colorado for misconduct, spent a year in JUCO, and ended up at Hawaii, where he went on to become a record setting passer. Are we seriously going to confuse Brennan for a guy with a long list of Felonies?

Players, QBs especially, who play in JUCO are Ill-Equipped to Develop in the NFL

This is an interesting one. Brennan transferred to JUCO after the 2003 season, spent the 2004 season as a JUCO QB, before walking on at Hawaii in 2005. The knock on JUCO QBs is pretty damning: That the skills learned at small programs by these coaches equip players to succeed in the college game, but actually hurt their pro prospects. This is probably the most legitimate criticism of Brennan, as the skill set that made him successful in college might not translate well to the NFL. It is a rare case, to be certain, that a JUCO passer ends up two years later tearing up and burning all the college record books, but it's sort of like playing in the arena league for the NFL: you get valuable experience while you are there -- but the longer you stay, the tougher the transition to the next level will be. For Brennan, the bill may be coming due about now.

With that said, how many NFL scouts do you think went through this type of thought process when grading the guy? If you said none, keep reading.

Brennan lacks a big arm

Who cares? The NFL is so timing based that any QB who can throw the ball 30 yards on a rope has as good of an arm as is needed to succeed. That includes...any serious pro QB prospect.

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Scouts seem to want to write Brennan off rather than evaluate him. He probably wouldn't develop even if given the chance, that's just the nature of players like him. This case, though, is incredibly intriguing. I mean, Brennan's numbers alone means he's earned a tongue in cheek shot at NFL stardom. He's probably not going to get it in Washington, but he figures to succeed Todd Collins as the team's backup QB, and just a small sample of success is all he will need for the Redskins to be able to turn around and deal him for a day one pick to a team who needs a starting QB.

The hype surrounding him should work in Washington's favor here, and hopefully Colt gets his shot. He's simply not the pro prospect Jason Campbell is, and he never will be. But he's a good prospect in his own right, and the Redskins should be happy to have him.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 20, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you sween. Good fubbal people are hard to come by.

Posted by: Stumped | May 20, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Brad Badger?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I certainly hope the Magnificent Morocco Brown had no part in the talent evaluation of the QB position in Chicago.

Anyone for politics?!

Posted by: Barno | May 20, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Sween is it worth putting on my netflix que?

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 20, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Morocco sounds like a very good hire. Hopefully Snyder/Cerrato will let him make some football decisions. Talent evaluator, Morocco might take away your title.

Posted by: M | May 20, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

4-12, that was nice. I don't think it was enough to lure MV Dame back in, though. Maybe an ultimatum would do the trick...

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Morocco Brown has a very good reputation around the league...As far as cartoon characters go (http://www.nb0b.net/images/mm8.gif), I was a bigger fan of Secret Squirrel. Just FYI.

Posted by: Cindy | May 20, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Curz, thanks for the hookup.

Good write up, in 2-3 years if Colt can be traded for a first day pick, well worth it.

Posted by: Greg | May 20, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Ahem...MVDAME, GET BACK IN HERE RIGHT NOW!!!! OR ELSE!!!!!!!!!! I REALLY MEAN IT!!!!!!!!!!
Something like that?

Posted by: Cindy | May 20, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

LMichaels is good for: down and distance. other than that, he's the main reason I don't visit redskins.com. screw him.

Posted by: mnskinsfan | May 20, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

What a happy coincidence, Greg! The RI store has a huge selection of mincemeat pies!

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, I say Squiddly Diddly. Agree to disagree.

Alex, absolutely.

Posted by: dcsween | May 20, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

If that doesn't work , Cindy, I don't know what will!

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Jasno is wrong about the re-building of the Skins being complete ... its not over till Frank Herzog is back ... which means a certain other person has to go.

Posted by: dcsween | May 20, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

2 steps ahead of you dc, I've already ordered 10 of them.

mmmmmmm....mincemeat.......

I also got a couple of blue-berry, and an apple pie to boot......

Posted by: Greg | May 20, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Ahem (is this thing on?), attention, will Ms. Cindy Boren please come to my office? My nephew and I would like a word with you.

Posted by: From the desk of Donald Graham | May 20, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Also, my favorite part of the Notre Dame fan flowchart is the part about winning the bowl game ... no data available. LOVE IT!

Posted by: dcsween | May 20, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Move along folks, move along! (read beep beep!)

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 20, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Doh! It took me until now to catch that "Rock" as a nickname is also a diminutive of the name Morocco. The middle syllable in there. How 'bout that.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 20, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Jasno is wrong about the re-building of the Skins being complete ... its not over till Frank Herzog is back ... which means a certain other person has to go.

Posted by: dcsween | May 20, 2008 3:13 PM


Sorry, but Frank Herzog was terrible for years. He was constantly calling the wrong player's names and couldn't remember anyone's number to save his life. I couldn't understand how he kept his job calling the 'Skins games.

I don't care for Larry Michael either.

Posted by: Frank | May 20, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Seems interesting to me that someone like Morocco would want to come work for Vinny. Is his reputation better within the league than it is on this blog?

Posted by: Come On | May 20, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I have to admit I kind of like the way the skins are going about things this offseason. Still huge question marks about Zorn but that's cause his hiring was out of leftfield. They got a lot of players in the draft that might actually make the team - granted I could be over hyping that since it's been so long since the skins have had that many picks. Now they're filling out the front office with respectable football minds.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | May 20, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Very interesting. Lot of change and youth coming in the FO, but it is nice to see someone that is a real football guy brought in who is also still young.

Posted by: P24 | May 21, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I played high school ball with Rock at Kecoughtan High School in Hampton, he comes from an athletic family. We have remained friends and talked often when he was in Chicago. He has the ability to turn this team around. Give him a chance and you will be happy with his judgements.

Posted by: Jason | May 21, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship

Posted by: Fletch76 | May 22, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I know Rock and his family well. He is probably one of the best minds in the NFL and has a very bright future. Read up on him! He has truly worked his way up the ladder with good old fashioned hard work and integrity. I wish him the best.

Posted by: kickatan | May 22, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Okay...reading this blog it seems only Jason has any idea who Morocco is. So here you are...In high school Rock was typical when it came to being a mans man. However, he was atypical when it came to his grades or his work ethic. Like Jason says, he comes from an athletic family. His brother Milan, which I am sure you guys know by now, is the head coach for Mt St Mary's in MD. Milan used to help my bball team- he is also very bright. His mom was my Spanish teacher. Anyway, I had English, Math and Chemistry w/Rock and he was always one of the best students in the class. Also, very humble given his popularity. Morocco has always had leadership ability and a natural talent for scouting- he was jokingly referred to as "Madden" in high school. For some reasone, people always gravitated towards Rock. He beat out Iverson for HS Player of the year for the state of VA. He also was a pretty good basketball and baseball player. He pitched in baseball and played point in basketball.

Posted by: kickatan | May 22, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Kickatan- I was class on 94. Lived with Newsome. J Elder

Posted by: Jason | May 23, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Went to school and played with him He will never tell you he got ran over by a freshmen tightend lol ................ HE is a great guy him and his brothers

Posted by: kt | May 23, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

For me memories of Rock go all the way back to middle school. He's the kind of guy you want your sons to grow up to be and your daughters to date/marry. Since leaving middle school, I've never had another class with him, yet a few years out of high school I bumped into him and he not only remembered my name, he remembered my goals and asked specifically about them.
And yeah, he's good at a lot of sports... runs in the family with all three boys. I have to say though I find it funny that a player he scouted wound up helping my team win the super bowl. :)
KHS c/o 94 here too

Posted by: Kate | May 24, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

KHS, class of '94 also. Seems like a reunion! Anyway, glad to see Warriors coming out to support one of our own. It's amazing how well graduates from the Tidewater area are doing. and JElder...are you big, read headed Jason? Anyway, I will be sure to continue to support Rock and the Redskins! Best of luck.....

Posted by: kickatan | May 24, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Kickatan Big Red Head Jason..

Posted by: jason | May 27, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

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