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Moss Not Looking Good

Santana Moss (left groin) tried to job a bit and do some agility drills, but was not moving smoothly and after a few minutes of work on the sidelines in shorts and a t-shirt during practice he had to stop and get the groin iced down, then retreated to the training room.

Hard to see him turning that around in time to play this weekend - and I al already wondering about Week 6 as well - but never say never.

RB Clinton Portis (knee) was back in pads and doing some work and from what I gather the plan was for him to at least take part in some 7 on 7 drills.

We'll see what all parties have to say after practice.

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 3, 2007; 2:37 PM ET
 
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Posted by: Zebra | October 3, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Love Moss, but the injuries are beginning to get annoying.

Posted by: Gasson | October 3, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I also tried to job a bit today at my desk, but it didn't work out.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 3, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Gary Clark will be in attendance, and he is familiar with the Gibbs offense... maybe he can lend a hand?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 3, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

If I got my groin "iced down" I'd retreat to the training room too. Sounds like most of the receiving responsibility will go on Cooley and Randle El for you guys this weekend. Either that or you're going to run the ball about 50 times.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 3, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully bug eyes can provide some help this week. We are going to need to use ARE to stretch the field. The thought of Thrash as our X reciever makes me sad in my Redskins underwear.

Posted by: Skinz | October 3, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

God forbid the skins running the ball 50 times. All I hear them say is that they are a running team, but I don't see it. A running team would have pounded the ball down the gints throats in the 2nd half, not run reverses and have their best back on the bench in crunch time.

Posted by: nah | October 3, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

What about me people? They don't pay me the big bucks for nothing.

Posted by: Lloyd, Brandon | October 3, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

We will run the ball right down Detroit's throat. Our defense will keep detroit to 21 points. Randle EL and Caldwell will have to earn their money this weekend. 28-21 Skins... and 3-1 babyyyyy!!!

Posted by: bethesdaboy | October 3, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

What about me people? They don't pay me the big bucks for nothing.

Posted by: Lloyd, Brandon | October 3, 2007 02:50 PM


Did I not get the memo? When did we stop paying you?

Posted by: Da Truef | October 3, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey, no worries.

TJ left Lloyd a list of relaxing cafes in the DC area. Maybe he can take Moss with him.

Posted by: groundhogdayguy | October 3, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Groin injuries are bad & tend to nag for the season. I'd sit him out for as long as we can stand it. I'd love to see Moss contribute in time for a playoff run. I'd hate to loose him for nothing before that.

________________________________

And from previous thread:

I'm not raggin' on JlaC or anyone else who offers discourse.

But a FAN is someone who SUPPORTS the team, not someone who is hell bent on their own depression.

And my comment there is neither baseless nor an overreaction, Skins. It is an insult, however, and I would hope the only people insulted were the ones to whom it applied.

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I have a nagging groin injury!

Posted by: john bobbit | October 3, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I know this might sound strange, but I want them to throw the ball to Lloyd. I want to see what he can do. I know he's a complete turd, but I want to give him a chance, I want him to have the opportunity to prove himself. Sounds crazy, I know, but lets see what he can do.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 3, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

greg- i kinda feel the same way, i just have a feeling lloser will b*tch up like last year. anybody that doesn't have enough fire in their belly to get extra reps with the rest of the wrs and jc is destined for failure.

Posted by: nah | October 3, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh man, here comes linsey Czarniak. I hope she knows about shrinkage.

Posted by: 'Tana Moss | October 3, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Greg;

I agree. That havent really given him a chance. No that he deserves one but maybe a good game changes him for the year. They have to at least try at some point, right?

Another thing, Det pass d is ranked 30th. We need to air it out against them. With play action of course.

Posted by: Zebra | October 3, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Blog Detective,

You're a quick one!

I admit that some of those posts were mine, but not all of them.

The only thing I'll fully admit to is putting your wife in a hubble buck last night.

Seriously though, and not that I wasn't serious about the last statement, but I truly respect Gibbs, the man. In fact, I'd probably be willing to bet that if there was to be a "great person draft", he'd be selected in the first round world-wide. Heck, I'd even select him with my first round pick if somehow Danny didn't trade it away.

But as a football coach, he's had it. He's done. Don't get me wrong, I love him for what he did back in the day, but that was 15 years ago. It's just the way I feel.

Joe Gibbs is a public figure who makes about 500 times as much as the average American makes in a year. He can be criticized. And with criticism comes humor. Do I mean all this stuff? No. But I find it funny.

Nate/dorf/sween/chris larry/some of the other regulars, do you guys want me stop BMGO because I don't toe the company line and add a little PG-13 humor to it? Some of you seriously need to chill the SJK out. It's a SJK joke!

Here's to 3-1!

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 3, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Come one guys. Listen to my interview. I'm dedicated. Coach told me I would get more touches this year. You guys will like me after this weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUWeOlpe7oc

Posted by: Lloyd, Brandon | October 3, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

The offense better be ready to go this weekend after the bye week. We will need to put up points to win this game, because we shouldn't be counting on shutting down Detroit's Offense. Obviously, they have some very talented receivers! We need 21 maybe 24 points to win this once...

Posted by: E in VB | October 3, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

F Ricky Bobby! :)

Posted by: 4-12 | October 3, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm down w/ RB. I disagree w/ you on some stuff but I'm down.

Believe it or not, ur the reason I started on here. The concept of Ricky Bobby yellin' FIRST at a blog struck me as funny.

Again, vitriol purely directed at whiney ship jumpers and Dallas jackholes.

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Holy crap how old am I? Fourteen-year veteran Gus Frerotte to start this week..14 yr vet!?! It seems like just yesterday our little Gus was headbutting the endzone wall :(

Posted by: David | October 3, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Brandon, we actually cut you this offseason but nobody told you. Through a glitch in payroll, you are still getting paychecks. We fixed the glitch. Also, I'm going to have to ask you to pack all your stuff up and move into storage room C. Thanks...

Posted by: Bill Lumberg | October 3, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Greg(B), totally agree re: throwing to Lloyd. If the Skins cut him at year's end, and he comes alive somewhere else next year, I would explode. I would at least want it proven that he couldn't do that here. If he really can't catch what's thrown his way, then the damning game film might mean that he can't get re-hired next year ... its own retribution. The upside is that expectations are low and we need all the help we can get at receiver.

The whole idea of dog-housing as punishment seems a little childish to me. The dog-housed guy never really suffers (OK, maybe psychologically, see Archuleta, LaVar), only the team really suffers. Two wrongs don't make a right. For as much of a sideshow and embarrassment as T.O. was last season in Dallas, I think Parcells did the right thing by just playing the guy and using the time tested ITA strategy.

Posted by: dcsween | October 3, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone think Bloyd could would catch anything thrown at him anyway?!

I'm keen on Keenan.

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

You slept w/ Lumberg?!?!

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Skins aren't the only team getting hit with the injuries. They're far better off than some other teams -
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=3047348

on a postive?? note, Jansen made Pasquarelli's all injury team.

Posted by: COskins | October 3, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys. Look around the 1 minute mark on this one. How many receivers do you know who can throw a block like that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me72aGsDiCo&mode=related&search=

Posted by: Lloyd, Brandon | October 3, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

4-12,

The "visiting team returns" email was for you on the last post.

Dik,

If you ain't first, you're last. Cheers!

Honest take on the game this weekend. I think we finally break out of our shell on offense. I think we score at least 24 points, with 7 coming off of a defensive score or turnover deep in Detroit territory.

My real concern is the defense and coaching. Like everyone else, I'm concerned about our pass rush, which immediately makes me concerned about our suspect secondary (which I was already concerned about). HUH?

I think Gregg Williams need to call a good game in order for us to win. He cannot continue to let our corners sit back there and get eaten alive, because most of them just don't have the ability to get it done on their own against a 'good' offense.

Coaching, well the play-calling is still a mess in my mind. I worry about what will happen if we get an early lead or if things come down to the last drive. I hope Gibbs and Saunders are on the same page this time.

31-27 Skins. My jersey is saved (I vowed to burn it in the parking lot if we lose).

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 3, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Dik, Do you not remember my TD grab against the Ravens in preseason this year?

Posted by: Lloyd, Brandon | October 3, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

They don't pay me the big bucks for nothing.

Posted by: Lloyd, Brandon | October 3, 2007 02:50 PM

Actually it appears that they do.

Posted by: skinswest | October 3, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby, I'm not one of your haters, dude. You've amassed one of the greatest bodies of work up here. Nobody should doubt your commitment as a Skins fan.

Sure, your song remains the same, but the problems you find so troubling remain the same as well. So keep singing it, brother.

F 4-12.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 3, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if people will agree with this but Moss is really a #3/slot receiver. He is the best WR on the roster, although I think Cooley is a close 2nd. Oh, and from the last thread...

It is obvious that some people didn't grow up with the beverage powdered based substance in their household. But for all the people who didn't it is spelled
K-O-O-L A-I-D.

http://www.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/

There it is. I don't want to read any more about the spelling of Kool-Aid. To be honest I'm kinda insulted that people don't know how to spell it. (Ok, I'm lying) I'd never thought I had to do this but its funny when someone is so hell bent on an idea they will resort to sarcasm to prove their point. And as always...

I'm not saying, I'm just saying

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 3, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm pro-Ricky Bobby and I vote!

That said, F chRIs Larry.

Seriously, as long as its current and about football, I'm good with that. Strolls down memory lane do tire me out. Gibbs v.1.0 was a different NFL. Gibbs 2.0 is a different guy coaching in a different league. The first is older and wiser. The second is faster, stronger, and overpaid. As an observer, though, I freely admit those two types of differences seems completely disconnected. The coach and the game still boil down to 'any given Sunday'.

Posted by: dcsween | October 3, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately can't get pre-season on radio down in MIA, Bloyd. Can you do that in a real game puhleeze, not just get strongarmed by an undersized CB?

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

So not biting on the Undefeated Pats, eh?

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

RB,

So you don't have to worry, the sun will come up tomorrow.

Posted by: Optimist | October 3, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

RB- I think they finally took me off the email list, since I haven't received one of those extra ticket emails in a few weeks.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 3, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

"Honest take on the game this weekend. I think we finally break out of our shell on offense. I think we score at least 24 points, with 7 coming off of a defensive score or turnover deep in Detroit territory." - Ricky Bobby, 3:18

>> Replace "think" with "hope" and I with you.

"My real concern is the defense and coaching. Like everyone else, I'm concerned about our pass rush, which immediately makes me concerned about our suspect secondary (which I was already concerned about). HUH?" - Ricky Bobby, 3:18

>> Kitna is not the most sacked QB in the NFL for nothing. I predict lots of sacks this weekend. Kitna missed the second half of Week Two with a concussion. If Kitna gets concussed again, then we get gravy.

"I think Gregg Williams need to call a good game in order for us to win. He cannot continue to let our corners sit back there and get eaten alive, because most of them just don't have the ability to get it done on their own against a 'good' offense." - Ricky Bobby, 3:18

>> Disagree. The Lions have a deep threat with depth. They absolutely have to protect against the big play. My hope is that they do have Landry playing pass coverage out of the box ... and maybe have an occasional jacking up of someone off the line. Keep the corners playing cushion, but have someone else smack someone within the five yards off scrimmage.

Posted by: dcsween | October 3, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Brandon, we actually cut you this offseason but nobody told you. Through a glitch in payroll, you are still getting paychecks. We fixed the glitch. Also, I'm going to have to ask you to pack all your stuff up and move into storage room C. Thanks...

Posted by: Bill Lumberg | October 3, 2007 03:13 PM

When? Now? Where's that? Here?

http://www.projo.com/news/content/Mall_Dwellers_10-02-07_1F7B9KA.34baf91.html

Posted by: r-o-h in the h-o-u-s-e | October 3, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Looking at this from a Best/Worst case scenario regarding Lloyd:

Best Case - he proves that he can play, and needs the ball thrown his way on a consistent basis, and helps open up the passing game for ARE and Moss.

Worst Case - he proves himself to be what we already think he is, and is gone after this season.

Seems like it would be worth our while to find out what we've got. Look at his stats before he came to the Redskins. He had a great year in 2005. I just don't understand why this is happening.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 3, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I'll show and the rest of the doubters this weekend Dik. Here's that preseason TD. It's taped form the nosebleeds but trust me, it is me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URH67FUmvpU

Posted by: Lloyd, Brandon | October 3, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

My biggest concern this weekend is not at WR. ARE, Cooley and (dare I say) Thrash are all vets that can deal with pressure and put up enough numbers to get the job done... Even if THE RECIEVER pulls a few bench slivers out of his A$$ and plays a little bit, we should be fine.

My Concern is how the O Line holds up in week 2 without R Thomas. If the Run sets up the pass, it won't matter who is catching the ball without a running game (see Eagles/Giants game results). If we can't run behind Wade and whoever else gets plugged in at gaurd, we could be screwed.

Speaking of Starting Guard - Any word J La on if there is a change at Gaurd or will we have the same starting O-Line that we had in the Giants Game.

Posted by: Dislexic Dex #72 | October 3, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Looking at this from a Best/Worst case scenario regarding Lloyd:

Best Case - he proves that he can play, and needs the ball thrown his way on a consistent basis, and helps open up the passing game for ARE and Moss.

Worst Case - he proves himself to be what we already think he is, and is gone after this season.

Seems like it would be worth our while to find out what we've got. Look at his stats before he came to the Redskins. He had a great year in 2005. I just don't understand why this is happening.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 3, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Ah, those nutty art schoolers.

faux squatting is the new punk.

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

One more thing.

Look at the corners I have to go up against in practice. Guys like Old Man Springs, Double Move and Smooooooot make me feel like Jerry Rice during practice.

Posted by: Lloyd, Brandon | October 3, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Greg(B),

I respect your opinion and all, but...

48 Receptions
733 Yards
5 TD's

Good, but not great. Maybe great in Lloyd's eyes. Thats why he he feels he is the end all be all.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 3, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Nate- Thank you sir, may I have another. Is it the He Nate Me vs. PunterHunter fantasy football week? If so, F He Nate Me.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 3, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the twice posting.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 3, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

sween,

I think the Giants proved why we can't just sit back and simply cover. They not only destroyed our nickel and dime coverage, but they did so on 3rd and long, many of which were no doubt about it passing downs. We need pressure, and we just don't get enough of it on a consisent basis (yet) without blitzing.

I'd rather try to rattle Kitna then let him sit back there and pick apart our secondary like Eli did in the second half.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 3, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Ok, Skinsrealist, maybe not great, but if we got that out of him at ANY point in time, we're not having a discussion about him being a lousy player.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 3, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I completely agree with Greg. We need to honestly try to get him involved in this game early (preferably on the first drive). This is the perfect opportunity against the lacking pass defense of Detroit. If he can't be productive or continues to give up on routes, drops balls and not fight for 50/50 balls or just flat out hustle, then be done with him and let's get the others more involved and keep him deactivated if he can't be trusted to contribute. Cut his sorry SJK after this season and take the cap hit.

Or if for some reason he does miraculously contribute consistently for a few weeks we use him as trade bait to gather a draft pick and maybe salvage some cap space... However, that is probably WAY TOO unrealistic!

Posted by: E in VB | October 3, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

SJK?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 3, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

The Skins are consistent at being inconsisent! Probably in part because
there are too many coaches for each offensive & defensive side of the ball.
As noted by previous columns before,
they do not have a good talent evaluators
for scouting. The skins need a pro personnel man who can spot potential talent. The phrase, "Too many Chiefs, not
enough Indians" can describe the Skins.

Posted by: George Costanza | October 3, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

If (and this is a big if) the O-Line play is improved to the point where they stay strong for the whole game, then the convervative D will work great.

For all the trigger pullin' you guys want to do, lem'me ask you this - What if they do that and Kitna lights up the secondary? Will you still keep on with the whole 'conservative=bad' ideology? or will you just flip flop and call out the secondary.

Maybe Skins play conservative with the lead because they need to or believe they need to.

The conservative D has kept you in every game we've played this year. Now, if the O can keep their end of the bargain, we'll add some more W's instead of L's

HAIL!

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Yea ITA that they should at least put him in there. He is already proven he is a potential waste on the field, lets not make it 2 for 2 and leave him on the bench all season.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 3, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I know Kitna has taken the most sacks this year, but didn't someone also point out that he has the most passing yards as well?

Sounds like they accept sacks to get recivers open to me. Bad for Kitna, but great for receivers!

Posted by: Redcoat | October 3, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Did someone say Lindsay Czarniak? What a piece of, ahem, personality. We should see if Jasno can get her to do a guest blog for us, then maybe one of those happy hours...... with Ms. Czarniak, of course.

Posted by: T | October 3, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you have a choice but to put Bloyd in there more - I just am askeeerd of the potential result! (pick city!)

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

When has any champion in anything been labled conservative, even at certain times.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 3, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Nah, 4-12 (not you, nah), He Nate Me goes against Redcoat's squad this weekend.

The real question is whether kost52's buddy, the absentee Aussie owner of 'More than Just Punters,' wakes up and fields a full team to oppose the juggernaut that is SMACK. He is currently starting Bulger (benched) and Rudi Johnson (bye). Gonna need a little effort to challenge SMACK, the best team in the league so far (barf).

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 3, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Check out Redskins.comTV (Locker Room: 10-3)...about 8:04 mark...got to love Smoot and that Deep South accent..."alota people get it mis-con-screwed/we don't have a 6'5 caawna ova hera!"

Posted by: JonTPK126 | October 3, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

SkinsRealist, haven't the champion Spurs been labeled "conservative," relative to a lot of the up-tempo teams? Or mayeb the term used was "boring"?

Apples and oranges, I guess.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 3, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

nate and others, it's definatly apparent that i need a new handle. i'll be away from the blog for a few days (pumpkins concert, booze, broads, golf etc). in the mean time, i'll come up with something new...

Posted by: nah | October 3, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Nate- I've noticed the SMACK juggernaut, and hope that his fantasy team follows the form of his real team come playoff time...

Posted by: 4-12 | October 3, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I dunno SkinsR - George Foreman? Pat Riley? George Allen? Don Shula? I'm sure there are more. As far as I can remember, Gibbs was always considered conservative vs. Parcells, Walsh, etc. even though he came out of the Coryell (sp?) system.

I am truly fascinated by what they're trying to do here and I hope they never give up on the idea. Who knows, maybe they'll bring team accountability back to the NFC? This Conference has been chasing the AFC for far too long.

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

L-O-S-E not loose.

Loose - free or released from fastening or attachment: a loose end.

Lose - to fail to win (a prize, stake, etc.): to lose a bet.

Posted by: Health Shuler | October 3, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I really hope we let lose on these guys. I couldn't take another week after a loose.

Sorry I couldn't resist.


Alot of you should be life chooches. I mean coaches.

Posted by: Confucious | October 3, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey Nate, I see that somehow my team is slightly favoured over yours this weekend - that's nuts!!

You may see that I've added a logo to my team now. It's Plaxico being chased by Redskin defenders after he caught the winning pass last week. :-)

How about this. if you win, I'll change it to a picture of your choosing for the next week, but if you lose, you change your logo to a picture of my choosing - a bet?

Who says you can't get a little 'edge' into fantasy football!

Posted by: Redcoat | October 3, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

There you guys go, spreading the seed mixture onto the star-shaped Chia Pet of SMACK animus, and placing it on the sunniest windowsill. Kost is 4-0, and where are the cast-iron glances at the big down under wonder? Huh? He's not even American! And he leads the EPL fantasy too. There's your villain!

Posted by: SMACK | October 3, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Weird Al should steal a page from the Colts play book. Line Cooley up in the Slot with ARE/"Insert Wr here" in the 3 wide...and just use Yoder to be traditional TE...

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 3, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Last year the Colts lined Dallas Clark as third wr in slot all the time...and than used Ultrecht to block and catch passes from TE position...

Sellers or Yoder could do that...

Someone hire me as O cord!

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 3, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

McCardell to return punts Sunday according to 980.

Are you kidding me or what?!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 3, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

McCardell with 8 punt returns in the last 7 years.

Disaster waiting to happen...

Posted by: GAD | October 3, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Looking at this from a Best/Worst case scenario regarding Lloyd:

Best Case - he proves that he can play, and needs the ball thrown his way on a consistent basis, and helps open up the passing game for ARE and Moss.

Worst Case - he proves himself to be what we already think he is, and is gone after this season.

Seems like it would be worth our while to find out what we've got. Look at his stats before he came to the Redskins. He had a great year in 2005. I just don't understand why this is happening.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 3, 2007 03:30 PM


Don't understand why? The knock on him was that although he makes the occaisonal acrobatic catch, his hands are below average, he is undersized, not the best route runner (quits on routes) and be easily contained by physical corners. Any success he had came in the very weak NFC west. Nobody wanted this guy.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 3, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

McCardell to return punts Sunday according to 980.

Posted by: | October 3, 2007 04:26 PM

Now THERE is a job for Receiver, The. If he shows he can get his a$$ out on the field and makes some plays there, let him go out on offense too.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 3, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Well, w/ ARE as primary target - it makes some kinda sense.

Posted by: Dik | October 3, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

++++God forbid the skins running the ball 50 times. All I hear them say is that they are a running team, but I don't see it. A running team would have pounded the ball down the gints throats in the 2nd half, not run reverses and have their best back on the bench in crunch time++++

Lessee, last year guy names Betts goes over a grand running it down folks throats. How could that be, since THIS year same fellow is averagiung less than two yards per carry.

Pretty boys need to realize it's the Big Uglies that make a running Game. Guys who've played together, know each others moves and have some talent.

One OT guy goes down for Phila and the Gints are tying sack records. THREE new, and or inexperienced plays out offive on the Redskins line, and guiess what, the running game doesn't work.

If all the skins OLinemen stay healthy, they'll be clicking in three four weeks.If they succeed in running he ball Sunday, it's because the Lions suck. WIthe the Redskins WR talents, they should have eight in the box most plays,

Posted by: Corkczar | October 3, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

From redskins.com.

"Fox said the defensive backs are looking at the pass-happy Lions as an "opportunity."

"You don't want to be back there in open field tackling guys running downhill," Fox said. "You want the ball in the air. You want opportunities to go get it, give the offense the ball back, so we can start putting up points and start putting teams away.

"That excites us as defensive backs and we see [Sunday's game] as an opportunity.""

Posted by: bigfish | October 3, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Gary Clark will be in attendance, and he is familiar with the Gibbs offense... maybe he can lend a hand?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 3, 2007 02:45 PM

I'm not sure Gary is up to jobbing on the ground yet.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 3, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Beep beep!!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 3, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I've jobbed in a pool before. I think my technique was off because everyone was looking at me funny.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 3, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

If anything we will know what we have in the secondary this week. In the Giants game they gave up points but also made plays.

D' helped offense with 10 points off of turnovers.
17 points for Giants not off turnovers.
With the Offense in the tank the 2nd half.

10 points or less very good
11-17 good
17-24 OK
>24 not so good

Posted by: M&M | October 3, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Greg and Sween, it is very unlikely that they would release Brandon Lloyd next season. His release fee is more than $7 mil in 2008. Paying him 4.2 mil is a lot more cap friendly.

Posted by: M | October 3, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Cut Lloyd in the off-season and designate him as a post-June 1st release. His non-amortized bonus gets split between 2008 and 2009, and he will no longer be wasting a roster spot. The cap hit will be no worse than keeping him, and getting rid of him will be a blessing.

Bye Lloyd - it's been nice.

Posted by: CW | October 3, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

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