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My Early Reaction To The Presser

For all of the yapping about continuity and stability, sure sounds like a blood-letting is upon us.

Owner Dan Snyder was given multiple opportunities to endorse an in-house candidate, and specifically Gregg Williams, and declined to do so, talking about their "process." The only definitive thing he did say is that they don't need a GM, and he's looking for a coach only. He loves their player procurement model, which involves him having intimate involvement in all aspects of negotiations.


By Jason La Canfora  |  January 8, 2008; 4:04 PM ET
 
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Posted by: GWSkinFan | January 8, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't think there'll be a "blood-letting".

Posted by: NCICURN | January 8, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I think Snyder was just being safe in his statements. Long night followed by long day. I think Snyder was thinking, "Just don't screw up." Which is probably the right way to handle this.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Jasno is way off base here

Posted by: trailblazer658 | January 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Snyder's lack of an endoresment indicates Williams is not a legitimate candidate or he doesn't want to say anything that jeopardized compliance with the Rooney Rule? I don't see any legit minority candidate accepting an interview if Snyder indicates the result is a foregone conclusion.

Posted by: jklaw | January 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I was just down at the courthouse and saw Grilliams walking out. I shouted "hey Coach Williams!" He shouted back "Not anymore. I changed my name to Process."

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I think you are right. I got the same impression. G. Williams' name came up many times, and The Daniel could not even find it in himself to utter the words Greg Williams during the entire press conference. I believe Snyder will want proven success and that he already knows he wants Cowher.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

No GM? Without Gibbs around influencing who we take now we are left up to non-football people yet again...this "organization" is moronic yet again..time to buy some more clipboards!

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | January 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

One reflection I had after hearing the same language was that maybe due to the rooney rule he is forced to paint the picture that they will go through a full "process"?

Gibbs and Snyder did say several times that they are very cognizant of what the players all think of GW, which is all positive. HAIL.

Posted by: zcrowe | January 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

The Danny had to be noncommittal. If he said anything significant, the media would have gone crazy as evidenced by JLC trying to make something out of the fact that he said nothing.

Posted by: boot1 | January 8, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Lack of endorsement publically does not mean lack of endorsement privately.

The Danny has to give the appearance of due diligence to abide by the Rooney Rule. Otherwise there is a big fine heading his way.

Posted by: CBT | January 8, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Uhhg, to think making the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years could be the "golden era" of redskins football for years to come.

I try to like Dannyboi and yet I just can't, he'll never ever get it.

Isn't definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result?

How did this guy make a billion dollars.

Posted by: Skinz | January 8, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

JLA-
I love you man, but can you please stop with the henny penny the sjy is falling guesswork?? Knowing how manic we fans are, don't get us riled up when there is nothing to support it. It makes perfect sense to hold your cards close no matter what they re thinking internally.

If he comes right out and says who they want, kind of takes away any kind of negotating leverage and certainly would make the organization appear to have egg on its face if somehow its first choice didnt work out.

Can't we just say, Gibbs was the man, God Bless Him, and now its time to really bask in the glow that he has righted the ship and have faith in them making the right decision..until they don't and then we can all go ape Sh*t.

Posted by: Jwolff03 | January 8, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

No doubt Danny will go after Cowher first and think of Williams as a backup plan. Look, we know Williams can coach defense, but Cowher's defenses have been as good or better. Odds are pretty good that Cowher will make a better head coach than Willliams.

Posted by: boot1 | January 8, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

i wonder if its a violation of the rooney rule to endorse an in-house candidate before interviews have taken place. it sure seems like if he endorsed GG today, then it wouldn't exactly lead to "fair" interviews of future minority candidates.

Posted by: psps23 | January 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Only time will tell....

But Danny S. sounds like he is being cautious. There is nothing wrong with following the process and making sure you make the correct decision - assuming he is not shutting out the possibility of Gregg or even Crazy Al as potential candidates.

That being said, if you put all your backing behind anyone now, you close out other candidates from taking you seriously.

Posted by: matthew.hendricks | January 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Holy cow, Jason...how about a Spelling & Grammar check before posting???!

Posted by: sjoyce4 | January 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday, Jasno was wondering about why Joe went off on QB position (other than the obvious of having gotten four consecutive quetsions about it) thinking that meant bad news for JC.

The ACTUAL result (Joe leaving) was not offered as a possibility. I didn't hear any forecast of blood letting ... but maybe that's how I roll.

I'm guessing if it is a blood letting massacre (frankly, if its not Williams, which means lots of players also do not agree to restructure), then Joe's first bit of "Personal Advice" was not accepted and it will be Joe's final effort as "Personal Advisor". Then it will just be Vinny doing personal punt protection for The Owner.

The opportunities are here and now. DON'T MESS IT UP!

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The Danny likes their player procurement model and the fact that he's intimately involved in the negotiations? Say it ain't so...and try these on for size in their current player procurement model -- Patrick Ramsey, Mark Brunell, Brandon Lloyd, Adam Archuletta,...

We NEED a GM that knows something about what it takes in a player to succeed in the NFL, rather than relying on The Danny's starry-eyed lusting after supposed stars whose best days are behind them...

Posted by: gr8day4bsbll | January 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I trust Jasno's Gut.

Jasno is well aware of the Rooney rule - he is the one who explained its application to our situation earlier today.

Jasno has met snyder in person and has a better pulse on him and the organization than anyone.

If Jasno things a bloodletting is coming, then, in all likely-hood, a bloodletting we will get.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | January 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"Dan Snyder" and "intimmate involvement" in the same sentence. Lunch not as good in this unplanned second tasting.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Or another thoughts is - maybe Gregg is already set to interview elsewhere and Danny knows it.

Posted by: matthew.hendricks | January 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

If it ain't broke don't fix it? IT IS BROKE!!! (just look at gr8day4bsbll's list).

I hope we're not in for another decade of crap...

Posted by: Daspig | January 8, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"For all fo the yapping about continuity and stability, sure sounds like a blood-letting is upon us."

Yup, it's coming.

And don't be surprised if Williams ends up in Miami with Parcells.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 8, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like we're doomed.

Posted by: jdixon35 | January 8, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"... I believe Snyder will want proven success and that he already knows he wants Cowher."

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 04:12 PM

One Super Bowl off the knee of Carson Palmer and multiple "winning" seasons in the AFC North is not "proven success." Also, The Owner said "no GM," which means "no Cowher."

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I think snyder is playing it safe. Why say hes going with gregg williams when he still has to interview outside the firm to meet the rooney rule. its stupid for him to even mention him just yet.

Posted by: peters82 | January 8, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Oh and I can't support Brian Billick on our team in any capacity besides hanging over a dunk tank.

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | January 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

No reason to give Williams an endorsement at this point. Obviously, Dan has to comply with the Rooney Rule. JLC missed the point.

Also, there's a strong possibility he comes across a candidate he really likes in the process. Why handcuff yourself prematurely? Let the process play out.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | January 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Being given the opportunity to say that Gregg Williams is your next head coach and not saying it does not mean that you don't intend to make him your next head coach.

Dan is just playing it safe. Relax.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

williams never lacked the analytical aspect of the game. he can gameplan with the best of them. his problem before was player relations. if he's learned anything from gibbs, it would be that. nobody motivates their players and gets them to fight harder than gibbs does. gregg will be a stud. whether it'll happen as a redskin is up to danny.

Posted by: psps23 | January 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Is there anyway fans can impeach an owner? I'm sick of this.

Posted by: jake | January 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The NFL would love to stick it to the Redskins for not following the "process" correctly. Take away a few draft picks (probably give them to the Pats). If Snyder says anything close to endorsing Williams, they would screw him to the wall. Hate to say this, but I watched the whole news conference and I was really encouraged that Snyder has learned from Gibbs, and Williams will be next.

Posted by: jyates | January 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The Lions were in danger of getting docked draft picks years ago for hiring Steve Mariucci too quickly.

The NFL investigates that type of stuff and issues punishment at their discretion if they feel the Rooney rule was not taken seriously.

So in no way can they insinuate Williams is the leading candidate at this point.

Posted by: morton20boy | January 8, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is doing the right thing: he is keeping his mouth shut. Jasno should have realized this...to create a legit search under NFL rules, Snyder cannot in any way endorse anyone or else people won't come to interview.

Posted by: jcabana | January 8, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Did we watch the same press conference? How does Snyder's comments about "continuity" and the team being almost where it needed to be translate into "bloodletting?"

Posted by: busterkurosawa | January 8, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

dcsween, i think its tough to argue against the success of bill cowher. he has a history of winning teams and a lombardi trophy. not much more you can have to measure success. i still would like to see GG atop the coaching heirarchy next year though.

Posted by: psps23 | January 8, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I think you're reading too much into Snyder's comments/lack of them. Quite frankly, I think the guy may be a bit shell shocked - his hero told him less than 24 hrs ago that he's retiring!

A bloodletting may very well take place, but I still think Williams has the inside track. If Snyder has already decided to go in a new direction (Cowher or someone else), I would be shocked if Gibbs didn't already know that, or at least have a strong indication. Having said that, we all know Coach Joe is a total loyal soldier - he would never say anything he thought might put Snyder in a tough spot. Having said that, I can't believe Gibbs would have spent so much time lauding his existing players/coaches if he wasn't pretty confident they'd be sticking around. Just a guess, but that's what I'm thinking.

Snyder (god bless him for bringing Gibbs outta retirement - he will always deserve our respect for that feat) is just completely out to lunch on not bringing in a GM. So, so frustrating.

Oh, and Maske's blog about Shottenheimer was pretty funny...can't say it would be so bad. He may have been run out of town after one season, but let's face it - the team during the second half of that season was pretty damn tough. Besides, Bruce Smith is no longer around to poison the locker room by whining about tough practices. That kinda discipline just might help this group of players win early instead of needing miracle rallies in December.

Posted by: OldManGibbs | January 8, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I haven't had time to watch the presser yet, but did "Mr." Snyder really say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" about the GM situation???

Posted by: PDiddy | January 8, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey DC Sween, what is your definition of proven success in this league - winning the Super Bowl EVERY YEAR? Show me a ooach who has done that. Cowher's teams made regular post-season appearances, including two Super Bowls - one of which they won. I call that proven success in a league where many teams, including the Redskins, go seven, eight years or more without a playoff appearance.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Diddy -- his exact words, yes.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 8, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

just let the darn process run its course. i'm certain there were private discussions about the incumbent after Gibbs resigned. and the league would have fined them unless a contract was in place for williams ala martz in st louis after vermiel resigned. leave this alone and let it play out. us Redskins fans are never patient. PROCESS people. i didn't even see the presser and understand that.

Posted by: gregskins | January 8, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Thing is, Gibbs resigned from 2 jobs. Not 1.

That is much more complicated. The right way is to hire the team president first, then get the Coach.

Cowher solves both problems, but then everything else starts over. Williams means that you'll need a new exec to run football ops. Unless Danny gives that to Vinny, but that never worked before.

Really, the underreported story will be the other Gibbs job. Coach Gibbs can be replaced. But Team President Gibbs is the only person to have success in that role since Danny took over. That part of the organization was a disaster when Gibbs came in. Since then, mistakes have been plentiful and the cap is a mess, but a lot of good decisions were also made.

My fear is that the guys running the show before Joe Gibbs, will be the exact same guys who run this after Joe Gibbs.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 8, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Is there anyway fans can impeach an owner? I'm sick of this.

Posted by: jake | January 8, 2008 04:21 PM

Yeah, quit supporting the team. Then Danny will packup and move to L.A. and we'll get a new team/owner.

Posted by: david | January 8, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Not to rip on Jasno b/c getting his off-the-cuff opinions is why this blog rocks, but on the "bloodletting" prediction, I'm comparing that to the accuracy of his prediction last night at 7:45pm:

"Coach Joe's Press Conference

Been on the phone for about two hours since the end of Joe Gibbs's press conference.

People inside the organization were definitely thrown off by his noncommittal stance, but no one has seen any indication that he will actually leave.
Everyone I've spoken to thinks this is a bit of a negotiating process, and Joe doesn't want to say much until he gets something worked out with Daniel Snyder on an extension -- assuming they do get it worked out.
I believe they will. They will have to work out extension for the coaching staff as well if Gibbs gets one, and also address the scouts. They've done this before in short order -- 2005 -- and could well do it again."

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Jasno,

If you were going to begin negotiations with a new coach, would you say "It's early in the process and we're looking at everyone" or would you publically say "Gregg Williams is the man for me"?

What is the most expensive thing you've ever negotiated in your life, Jasno?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 8, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

While I understand the argument that Danny Boy may be playing it close to the vest, I was stunned how even the prospect of uttering the name Greg Williams seemed to nauseate him. He did, on the other hand, repeat the name Bill Cowher when asked a question about whether he (The Danny) had had discussions with Cowher.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I think you can rule out Cower if Dannyboy is sticking to his 'no GM needed' plan.

Posted by: david | January 8, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Bloodletting?

I got almost the opposite view.

Gibbs said that he feels comfortable with the team he has here. That he thought they have a real chance to make a run to the Super Bowl.

If he still has Snyder's ear - even if just part of it - I can't see any major dramatic changes.

I say they attempt to find a coach from within, tinker at the margins, and see how it goes.

If it's a complete collapse next year - 4-12 whatever - THEN the long knives come out. Short ones too.

No major bloodletting after a 9-7 record.

Posted by: SteveMG | January 8, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

the Cowher stuff is such bull.

He runs the 3-4 defense.

The Redskins are not even close to that in terms of personnel.

They are a 4-3 team through and through right now.

It's just so funny how these media guys, who obviously know nothing about football, keep pushing the guy as the next coach.

He wouldn't even be able to run his own defense here.

Posted by: morton20boy | January 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I just want to say I don't get excited by the idea of Cowher. He coached for many years in Pitt and has 1 ring. If it's not Williams, give me Grimm. I want a big, fat, mean MoFo who has 3 rings (and 1 loss, which may be just as important) to look players in the eye and let them know when they need to work harder. He fought in the trenches as a HOG...doesn't get any better than that.

Posted by: OldManGibbs | January 8, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Even if you rule out Cowher, I believe Danny's mannerisms during the press conference told the whole story (i.e., he doesn't want Grilliams as head coach).

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I think "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is the new "up here" for 2008.

Yikes!

Posted by: PDiddy | January 8, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Not to rip on Jasno b/c getting his off-the-cuff opinions is why this blog rocks, but on the "bloodletting" prediction, I'm comparing that to the accuracy of his prediction last night at 7:45pm:

"Coach Joe's Press Conference

Been on the phone for about two hours since the end of Joe Gibbs's press conference.

People inside the organization were definitely thrown off by his noncommittal stance, but no one has seen any indication that he will actually leave.
Everyone I've spoken to thinks this is a bit of a negotiating process, and Joe doesn't want to say much until he gets something worked out with Daniel Snyder on an extension -- assuming they do get it worked out.
I believe they will. They will have to work out extension for the coaching staff as well if Gibbs gets one, and also address the scouts. They've done this before in short order -- 2005 -- and could well do it again."

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 04:27 PM


NO ONE saw this coming - snyder had no idea. Gibbs didn't even decide himself until he was on his way back up here yesterday. Jasno gets a free pass there.

As I said earlier, Jasno has a better pulse on this organization than you, me or anyone else on this forum - he has the advantage of having his full-time job being covering this team. he's met the owner. he's met the vinny. he's met and interviewed gibbs and several players on this staff. the man has connections everywhere.

i said it before and i'll say it again. If jasno thinks we will get a bloodletting, then a bloodletting we will get.

Stay in denial all you want, but my money is on cower at this point.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | January 8, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"dcsween, i think its tough to argue against the success of bill cowher. he has a history of winning teams and a lombardi trophy."

Posted by: psps23 | January 8, 2008 04:24 PM

>>> So did Joe Gibbs, version 1.

"Hey DC Sween, what is your definition of proven success in this league - winning the Super Bowl EVERY YEAR? Show me a ooach who has done that. Cowher's teams made regular post-season appearances, including two Super Bowls - one of which they won. I call that proven success in a league where many teams, including the Redskins, go seven, eight years or more without a playoff appearance."

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 04:25 PM

>>> Past performance is no guarantee of success. Comparing the competition in the AFC North in Cowher's past decades to the same time period in the NFC East (when The Owner was the king of football decision-making for the team), is not a basis to judge. Cowher has ALWAYS had talent ... who under-performed. I don't want to crown Bellichek, but Cowher is no Bellichek. Cowher is the Notre Dame or Dallas Cowboys of coaches. Beloved by the media for his ... media belovedness.

Either continuity (which frankly, is how Bellichek and Paoli have done it), or a new/young guy. Cowher is a generation ago. He belongs on the shelf of "former" greats (Parcells, Shanahan, etc.) whose heydey should remain where it belongs -- in the history books.

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Jasno, you were off base. He knows he has to follow the Rooney Rule.

Man, you and Bram need a break now that it's the offseason. You're wrong here and he was waayyy off base last night saying that Joe's comments were about negotiating for more money in his extension. After listening to his presser, I thought last night that he was gone and was not surprised today. I am surprised that no one asked him about his Collins/Campbell statements last night.

Posted by: nojunk4me | January 8, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Jason La Canreporta has done his job and stoked a great debate for afternoon bloggers. Have fun and don't worry, if Gibbs taught Dan Snyder anything, he taught him to not show all his cards to the other players. Mr. Snyder will be searching his "Gut's Out" for a new coach and probably stay in house.

Posted by: Bob2770 | January 8, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

We all know how Snyder is enamored with big names. Cowher is the biggest coaching name out there. He loves to collect guys like this, and he will go after him - mark my words.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I missed Coach Joe's Collins/Campbell statmenet yesterday. What exactly did he say anyway?

Posted by: OldManGibbs | January 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I sensed transition in Joe's comments last night, but I thought he would be back for one more year.

This morning the transition is in full swing, this is something that has been worked out in advance and I doubt there will be a big departure from that plan (read williams).

Joe really emphasized yesterday how happy Dan was with the coaching staff and I think he will fight to keep everyone on board.

If the organization gets turned upside down it will be because of outside offers.

Let's give Dan the credit he earned this season (I'm not saying he won't make mistakes, let's give him the benefit of the doubt).

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Isn't definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result?

How did this guy make a billion dollars.

Posted by: Skinz | January 8, 2008 04:14 PM

A) No, that isn't the definition of insanity. In fact, its not even close.

B) Snyder isn't a bad owner, he loves the team and he's more than willing to shell out the cash necessary to stay competitive.

C) He made a billion dollars by being much smarter than the type of people who criticize him endlessly and know significantly less about owning a pro team than he does.

Posted by: trink | January 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Gibbs also say "dan's feelings are the same as the Players' and every one else in the building" or something to that extent?

We all know players and everyone else in the building wants GW. I don't think Snyder wants to commit yet and that's only because he doesn't have to. But after the press conference today, I am reading b/w the lines and I think GW is IT.

Posted by: hardhitter | January 8, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Look DC Sween, I am not endorsing the Cowher candidacy. I am just telling you what I believe Snyder will do.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Quick--look at the pic of Joe and Dan on the WaPo home page--doesn't he look like someone guiding his kid across the street so he doesn't get hit by a car?

Posted by: nojunk4me | January 8, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Even if you rule out Cowher, I believe Danny's mannerisms during the press conference told the whole story (i.e., he doesn't want Grilliams as head coach).

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 04:33 PM

I disagree completely. To me, it just looked like whenever the subject came up, the words running through Snyder's head were "Don't say Williams. Don't get fined. Don't say Williams. Don't get fined."

Posted by: freakzilla | January 8, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I saw a completely different press conference, then.

Snyder dismissed Cowher specifically by saying he'd met him once years ago, but that was it.

He said he thought stability was very important, even saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Gibbs spoke highly of Williams - but didn't utter Al Saunder's name. Both very telling.

Dan is a savvy business man and negotiator. He's not going to tip his hand and risk running up someone's cost and/or violating some policy or previous under-the-table agreement. What you saw today was purely a lack of information being divulged at this time.

I'm sure Dan will think about a lot of options, but based on everything I heard, he's leaning toward keeping things in-house and stable.

As for the GM situation, Dan as much as said he's the GM. You're losing your President of Football Operations, and you're not concerned about a front-office void. Dunno how I feel about that, especially if the next coach doesn't carry the weight Joe Gibbs carried.

Posted by: jvwright | January 8, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

its called business savvy. snyder doesn't want to reveal his intentions so that when it comes time...WHAM...he pulls another one out of the hat.

you'll see the headlines in a week: "Vince Lombardi named the new Redskins Head Coach." GG gets promoted to "Chief Executive Officer: Coaching - Defense", while Saunders moves to "Vice President of Coaching Operations - Offense."

Posted by: psps23 | January 8, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Cowher doesn't want this job. He wants the Carolina job. Not only is it in his backyard, but it's in a somewhat weak conference. And and we all know he thrives in a weak conference.

Posted by: chris_skins_balt | January 8, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I meant division

Posted by: chris_skins_balt | January 8, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the coach search will go on long enough that Gibbs will change his mind and come back!

Posted by: Xlnt | January 8, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

The no GM thing is not so good.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 8, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Personally I don't like Cowher. He may have taken them to Playoffs so many times but he only advanced to the SB only once in all those years. I am sure a few other coaches given that kind of time and support from FO might be able to do also.

I think he is above average at best and may be a little better than GW but not significantly. Now, do you risk so much upheaval for the upgrade you get? The roster is built for the O and D schemes currently in place and why not continue that?

Posted by: hardhitter | January 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The best thing for the Redskins is to elevate Gregg Williams to head coach and keep Al Saunders as offensive coordinator -- the team is built to run their respective systems and the players are now really beginning to play well in those systems. Bringing in Cowher will mean undoing and rebuilding the team to fit Cowher's type of football (aka a bloodletting) and implementing (and getting player buy-in) of Cowher's system -- and that will delay the Redskins' return to winning.

Dan Snyder doesn't want a delay if it's not necessary, so he'll be inclined to keep the coaching staff together if he thinks they can continue to operate well together without Joe Gibbs. (If that's not the case, then Snyder will look to Bill Cowher.) But Snyder needs to determine if Williams wants to keep Saunders and Saunders wants to stay as a non-head coach (not to mention determine the status of other coaches like Greg Blache and Joe Bugel). This will take several days to determine & negotiate, and Snyder will not make a public commitment before then for fear of damaging those negotiations.

A word to the Danny haters: Snyder has made his errors as an owner, but being ambivalent about winning or cheap about acquiring talent are not two of them. As a lifelong Oriole fan, I'll gladly trade Peter Angelos for Snyder any day. Gibbs has taught Snyder how you build a team for the long-haul (and is staying on as an adviser to continue that process). Snyder will now try to determine if the current organization will keep rolling together in the future. Only if he believes it won't will he bring in Cowher and do a major (and time-consuming) overhaul.

Posted by: tfirey | January 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

There is no reason Danny couldn't have said something like "we will consider all our options, including Greg," or something to that effect. However, he would not even utter the name Greg Williams.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

It's all a moot point anyway. Danny is gonna screw it up. Why don't we discuss what we all agree on. Someone needs to make Dannyboi an outrageous offer for the team.

Do you think that we could convince the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation to save a few million people from their now 9 years of endless suffering? Isn't that in their charter?

Posted by: Skinz | January 8, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he's holding the GM position open for Gibbs, in whatever capacity he's willing to fill it.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 8, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I agree with tfirey, but I still think Dan will botch it and make us start from scratch.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Well, JLC, you just got down posting about the Rooney Rule, so riddle me this--what was Snyder supposed to say? Something like, "We are definitely looking at Williams, but we are going to go through a pretend 'process' to pacify the league office"? What minority coach in his right mind would interview knowing that the decision has already been made, or that it was even close to having been made?

You guys are making a story out of nothing. Don't fret, though--most of us aren't surprised.

Posted by: bobbobcat | January 8, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, Freakzilla- Is Nate in the NYC or the DCA today?

Posted by: 4-12 | January 8, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/01/08/bc.fbn.redskins.taylors.ap/index.html

Judge imposes gag order on reporting in Sean Taylor murder trial ... which Sports Illustrated promptly reports.

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I understand there might still be some football going on this weekend. Who's playing again?

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who like Grimm, but not Cowher, for whatever reasons, please keep in mind that Grimm comes from the Cowher "tree" of coaching. Sure, he started here under Norv, but does that really count? he learned how to be a winning coach under Cowher, then went to AZ to be asst to another former Cowher disciple. He would bring more of a Cowher style to DC than a Gibbs style. Not that there would be anything wrong with that.

Posted by: dlhaze | January 8, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Why are all of you so excited at the thought of Gregg Williams as coach?

The man was a colossal failure in Buffalo, he alienated the entire team in two years.

He alienated the defense last year. The Skins will be awful with Williams as coach.

Some guys should be coordinators, Williams is one of them.

Danny, pony up all the cash like you always do and bring in the Chin!!!!!

Posted by: chirsch | January 8, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

However, he would not even utter the name Greg Williams.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 04:42 PM

Right. Because the exact position of the line is not really known, and the best way to avoid crossing it is by staying the heck away from it.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 8, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Based on Snyder's track record, I have no confidence he'll make a move to maintain continuity. Each time he's hired a new coach, the organization has had to reboot itself. Danny is more concerned about making a big splash by signing a high profile name. Cowher would seem to be the logical choice for him. My feeling is Danny gives Cowher a contract offer so ridiculous that he won't be able to turn it down.

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | January 8, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

4-12,
Don't have Nate's coordinates.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 8, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

While I am generally for continuity, let's remember that the last attempt at continuity, after a Joe Gibbs' resignation, gave us the Richie Petitbon 3-13 debacle!

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

yea he was a failure in buffalo, but so was belicheck in cleveland. and dungy in tampa. williams didn't alienate his defense, two players alienated themselves because they didn't have the discipline (arrington) or talent (archuleta) to succeed in his system. you can bet he's learned a lot from gibbs, most of which i'm sure is how joe dealt with player relations. nobody gets more love from his players than gibbs, and i'm sure GG has at least picked up a little bit of that from gibbs. like i said before; williams will be a stud Head Coach. whether it's with the redskins is up to snyder.

Posted by: psps23 | January 8, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

4-12, pretty sure Nate said he was in NYC this week.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 8, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Just like all "new" music is derivative of old music, all "hot rumors" are re-treads of old rumors. This Cowher stuff is unimaginative and very 2006. See this from a year ago ...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/bill_syken/01/11/scorecard.daily/index.html

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

How was Dungy a failure in Tampa?

He took a franchise that hadn't sniffed the playoffs in years and turned them into a contender.

Please, Gregg Williams is no Bill Belichick

Posted by: chirsch | January 8, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Frekzilla.

eedchic- BTW, Petitbon was me. The 3-13 was Norval's first year.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 8, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Please, Gregg Williams is no Bill Belichick

Posted by: chirsch | January 8, 2008 04:58 PM

Neither was Bill Belichick until Brady came along.

Posted by: trink | January 8, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Not that there might be other stuff to talk about, but I was a little underwhelmed by the fabled Glen Dorsey of LSU last night. He had a good game, several sacks and was part of a solid pass rush, but I didn't see a "Number One Guy in the Draft" performance. I did like the Ohio State corner, Malcolm Jennings, though.

Btwn Jennings, Calais Campbell, McFadden, Kenny Phillips, Aqib Talib, etc., it seems like all the hottest guys in the draft are juniors.

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs said he has spoken with the players and that they are on the same page regarding the coaching situation. He stressed the Snyder knows our coaches very well. Snyder said he wants "continuity."

That certainly does not scream Cowher to me.

Posted by: Lisa | January 8, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Williams could be the 2nd coming of Belichick, but unfortunately without a General Manager it won't matter. Whatever coach they put in he is doomed if Snyder and Cerrato are picking his players and trading his picks. I think they said that Gibbs will not have an office in Ashburn, so even if he stays on as "Team President" I doubt he will be as hands on as a GM. I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: curtmcgurt | January 8, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Channel 4 reporting that Cowher is arriving in DC to have dinner with Snyder tonight.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 8, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I hope Williams is the coach because all of you same people will be on here next year crying when the Skins go 5-11 and begging Danny to go after Cowher.

Maybe it's true about Brady helping Belichick become who he is, but you surely don't believe Jason Campbell will ever develop into Tom Brady do you?

Posted by: chirsch | January 8, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Mike Martz is the new offensive coordinator in San Fran.

Skins play the 49ers away this season, right?

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The comments on this board have shocked me.

1. I can't believe the incredible support there is for the Owner. I mean, this is a guy that has trademarked bringing in the big name and now when his true big fish leaves, you guys expect restraint? Either a lot has changed while I've been away or you guys are drinking some really good koolaid.

2. Let's not forget that as much as we all love Gibbs, he cost us multiple wins by sheer incompetence. It was time for him to step away and I thank him for his efforts. Hopefully the next coach will turn a 12 win by talent team into a real 12 win team.

3. In the last 2 days the Redskins have released information saying that there is no clause in GWilliams' contract that would pay him $1 million if he wasn't the next head coach and the Owner has refused to even say, "Gregg is a very good coach and we're very happy with him. He'll definitely be a candidate," in the presser. That doesn't sound like good news for Williams.

4. Let's not forget that Williams bombed out in Buffalo and isn't exactly a proven name as a head coach.

5. Agreed that continuity is important but if they elevate Williams, is Saunders going to stick around? I have my doubts.

6. There's no part of the Rooney Deal that would imply a penalty or fine for stating that Williams was an obvious candidate. People saying that should please stop. I have no doubt the Skins will do the diligence necessary but why didn't the Owner just say "It is our policy to not comment on potential candidates for the job." That would have given a clear message that Williams is a candidate but that they didn't want to jeorpardize or pay lip service to the Rooney Deal. As is, this looks bad for continuity.

7. Not excited about Cowher. Am excited about Grimmy. Previous comments about Cowher are sufficient but I think that bringing in Grimmy would provide continuity as he's a Gibbs guy and knows the culture. Plus it would be nice to call our head coach "Grimmy" wouldn't it?

Posted by: sheidt99 | January 8, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I have been saying it for almost 2 years why back down now, Grimm is the man!

Um, Dungy a failure in TB?!?!?! Gimme summa that kinda failure baby!

Posted by: chrislarry | January 8, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

If The Owner is going to talk to Cowher, I hope he also talks to Gruden (per The Governor's suggestion earlier today)... and if they are casting the web wide for Rooney Rule stuff, then the DC in Minnesota (Frazier) ... who had the top run stopping D, as well as Ron Rivera, LB coach for the Chargers after being DC in Chicago a couple years ago.

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

My apologies to 4-12. Yes, 4-12 is much better than Norval's 3-13 season the following year.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I have a different take than Jason. Coach Gibbs (I think I'll keep calling him that for some time, thanks) said that he and Dan agreed that the pieces were in place. To me, that extends into coaching staff. Dan has to maintain the appearance of an open contest to achieve meaningful interviews, but we have to believe his heart puts him in the Williams camp.

Remember four years ago that there were several announced interviews before Gibbs was hired. If everyone knew Coach Gibbs was on Dan's radar then, those interviews wouldn't have happened, and the team would be in violation of the Rooney Rule.

I'd say the only things that could derail a Williams gig are either one candidate blowing the deciders away, or Williams not being able to retain a good percentage of the existing staff. We don't know if Al Saunders would be willing to hang around in the same position, and we son't know about the position coaches that were holdovers from Gibbs 1.0.

Posted by: brud | January 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Two notes:

(1) Before a few years into his New England tenure, Brian Belichick was no Brian Belichick. (Remember, his first Superbowl season started with rumors that he would be fired if the team didn't show marked improvement.)

(2) Snyder blew up two Redskin coaching regimes that desperately needed to be blown up (Norv Turner and Steve Spurrier). I agree that he pulled the trigger on Marty Schottenheimer way too soon, but I think Snyder now realizes that too.

Oh, and a sidenote -- everyone keeps writing that Gibbs' double-TO cost the Redskins the Buffalo game. If I remember correctly, the Bills kicker hit the 51-yarder that was negated by the first timeout.

Posted by: tfirey | January 8, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

scheidt99, you're #6 is off.

In 2003, the NFL fined the Detroit Lions $200,000 for failure to interview minority candidates for the team's vacant head coaching job. After Marty Mornhinweg was fired, the Lions immediately hired former San Francisco 49ers head coach Steve Mariucci to replace him without interviewing any other candidates

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

sween- Yes, at SF next season.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

If were blowin this here thang up than I would rather go young and hungry ala:

Grimm
Ron Rivera
Frazier

That way I feel like we have a chance to have a quicker turn around under a highly motivated dude like that new steelers coach.

For the skins an older retread is a money grab that will be on a collision coach with The Dan.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the transition to Cowher should go really smoothly. Do we even have a healthy fourth LB to play base 3-4?

Posted by: jklaw | January 8, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

So what what Gibbs thinks now, though (wrt Grilliams)? It's very nice that he's said that he values continuity and the boss told him that he does, too. Snyder isn't stupid enough to tell DC's god to shove his continuity where he's putting the contract he's under: of course Snyder's going to "yes, yes" anything Gibbs says at this point.

Posted by: suz | January 8, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

chrislarry, precisely. The Cowher stuff sounds so much like Marty/Snyder, version 2.0.

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Two words for the success of "Cowher's" 3-4 defense: Dick LeBeau.

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

The defense would not miss a beat without triple G. Blache and Gray both presided over top five defenses and the whole crew is of the same philosophy.

The offense needs to continue in the Saunders-Coryell strain. The Coryell tree of offense through Gibbs and Saunders is the identity of the offense.

If Saunders is passed over and moves on, we should seek out his most promising disciples from Kansas City, St Louis, or from within -- not Martz.

If we do that, and bring in a good coach to keep the system going, I think the coaching change will be good.

Young, first-time coaches are lighting it up lately. We need a high character guy who is amenable to the offensive and defensive philosophies in place.

Gibbs remembered what he is missing through Sean Taylor. And, he realized what he lacks as a coach in the Buffalo blunder. I believe those two factors together pushed him to the brink this year.

Posted by: mirf59 | January 8, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Is Cowher really going to sign a contract that has Snyder and Cerrato doing personnel? We can argue about whether he's a great coach or only an okay coach but it seems pretty clear that he's not a total fool and he's not so desperate for his first HC chance (or next HC chance, even) that he'd go along with that nonsense.

Posted by: suz | January 8, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I think I should be the new coach. I played high school ball, and I have the right name. Besides, The DAN can get me at a steal.

Posted by: OldManGibbs | January 8, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

There is no way saying something like "Gee, I would imagine Gregg will be one of the candidates we will interview for the position," could be a violation of the Rooney rule.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Before a few years into his New England tenure, Brian Belichick was no Brian Belichick.

Posted by: tfirey | January 8, 2008 05:15 PM

In fact, he was so much not Brian Belichick that people called him Bill.

Many still do.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 8, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

And just for the record...enough about Gibbs' "buffalo bludner." Had the players played better, that game never should have come down to a last second field goal period.

Posted by: OldManGibbs | January 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I really don't think the two timeouts made any real difference. The Buffalo kicker hit the 51-yarder once and probably would have again. There is no way that game should have come down to a FG.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I really don't think the two timeouts made any real difference. The Buffalo kicker hit the 51-yarder once and probably would have again. There is no way that game should have come down to a FG.

Posted by: eedchic | January 8, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Before a few years into his New England tenure, Brian Belichick was no Brian Belichick.

Posted by: tfirey | January 8, 2008 05:15 PM

In fact, he was so much not Brian Belichick that people called him Bill.

Many still do.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 8, 2008 05:23 PM

LMAO!!

Posted by: ga8085 | January 8, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I DID do SOME work today.

Also, re: the record ... I'm pro-continuity, anti-Cowher, and not NECESSARILY pro-Williams. St. Joe's sentiment about The Owner needing to make any and all statements about HC and the process makes sense to me ... any marriage is a two way street. [I'm just saying that I hope the dinner btwn Cowher and The Owner tonight doesn't lead to any hanky panky.] In theory, The Owner has been down the road of a bad marriage with foray into the world of Martyball.

If Williams is not the guy to wed The Owner, I'm STILL pro-continuity ... lots of coaches on the staff ... doesn't have to Saunders. I like how Jerry Gray, who nominally has one title better (secondary) than Steve Jackson, was a multi-season Pro-Bowl guy (notwithstanding how stupid the Pro Bowl is). Danny Smith? He'd be fine too. Buges? Blache? Byner? I don't care who, just someone from the inside.

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

The offense needs to continue in the Saunders-Coryell strain. The Coryell tree of offense through Gibbs and Saunders is the identity of the offense.

Young, first-time coaches are lighting it up lately. We need a high character guy who is amenable to the offensive and defensive philosophies in place.

Posted by: mirf59 | January 8, 2008 05:23 PM

Part of hiring a head coach is realizing that he's going to do things his way, not the guy who quit's way. There's no Joe Gibbs at age 45 working in football at the moment; the only Joe Gibbs there is is nearing 70 and has decided he's done.

Posted by: suz | January 8, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

If he comes right out and says who they want, kind of takes away any kind of negotating leverage and certainly would make the organization appear to have egg on its face if somehow its first choice didnt work out.

Can't we just say, Gibbs was the man, God Bless Him, and now its time to really bask in the glow that he has righted the ship and have faith in them making the right decision..until they don't and then we can all go ape Sh*t.

Posted by: Jwolff03 | January 8, 2008 04:15 PM


Most sensible post of the day!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 8, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

We don't need the frantic 1 and 2-year stay coaches again. Cowher would be a horrid choice for him & us. There's no way he's be able to work with this system and no way Snyder would change. So after 1-2 years of trying to rebuild a team in his image he'd be out the door, we'd be without a playoffs berth and looking for a new coach ... again.

Posted by: Annie-Jazzy | January 8, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how to put it any clearer than this: Acknowledging that Williams is a strong candidate is not even in the same ballpark as "failure to interview minority candidates".

If you can't see the difference between the two, then we're done talking.

Posted by: sheidt99 | January 8, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"POSTED 3:30 p.m. EST, January 8, 2008

COWHER NEXT IN WASHINGTON? by Michael David Smith

In the hours since the resignation of Redskins coach Joe Gibbs, one name has been repeated over and over again as Gibbs' most likely successor: Bill Cowher.

Jason La Canfora of the Washington Post lays out the case for Cowher and says that a source who knows Redskins Vice President of Football Operations Vinny Cerrato well said Cerrato believes the Redskins' next coach will be Cowher. Moreover, if Cowher wants total control of football operations, that would be doable, and Cerrato could move to a consulting role to make room for a coach with more authority.

La Canfora also notes that even if Redskins owner Daniel Snyder wants Cowher, he would need to interview a minority candidate first. La Canfora writes that Redskins defensive coordinator Greg Blache would not want to "be a part of any dog and pony show" and interview for the job if the feeling around Redskins Park is that Cowher will get the job.

At today's Redskins news conference, Snyder said he has not talked to Cowher. He also said he "tried very, very hard" to convince Gibbs to stay.

"

Sounds like someone is trying to build a national rep here......

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 8, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Before a few years into his New England tenure, Brian Belichick was no Brian Belichick.

Posted by: tfirey | January 8, 2008 05:15 PM

In fact, he was so much not Brian Belichick that people called him Bill.

Many still do.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 8, 2008 05:23 PM

Freak,

Give the guy a break. It's really easy to get someone's name mixed up when you're watching a 50' TV...you'd have to walk into the next room to see the scrolling text or subtitles. That takes a lot of effort.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 8, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Brian, Bill BFD -- I bungled Billick and Belichik when typing. It doesn't change my point: Until 2001, Belichick's record as head coach as 41-55 (.427). Williams' career coaching record is 17-31 -- a not-much-lower .354. This doesn't indicate Williams will turn into a four-time Super Bowl winner, but then Belichick's record until 2001 certainly didn't indicate that either.

Posted by: tfirey | January 8, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

On this stuff about coaching trees, a disclaimer on my bias is required. Prior to coming to DC some 20+ years ago, I was raised in the Browns "fan tree," so I have an in-born aversion to the Steelers (which I have just about outgrown with the hiring of Mike Tomlin there). Steelers are to Browns' folk as Cowboys are to Skins' folk.* I still stand by my anti-Cowher intuition though.

* Though my disdain for the Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys has grown at a fairly equal rate (on the first two, based mostly on their fans), I do have to say that my favorite victories over the past two seasons were the Brunell-Santana game (2006) and the Romo-meets-Chris-Wilson game (2007).

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Interesting note... the last time Gibbs resigned, his highly regarded defensive coordinator--Richie Petibon--was hired... and given exactly ONE season before being fired and replaced with Norv Turner.

I thought firing him so quickly was a mistake. Will Snyder hire another highly regarded Gibbs defensive guru to pilot this team? And if so, will he give him just one seaon to prove himself?

Stay tuned!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 8, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

"Brian, Bill BFD -- I bungled Billick and Belichik when typing. ..."

Posted by: tfirey | January 8, 2008 05:38 PM

Not bungled as badly as Clayton did on espn today when he suggested that Billick is a likely candidate for the Skins job! (based on Billick's familiarity with the local TV markets??)

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

sween- Westside (Lakewood-ish) or Eastside (any of the Heights-ish)?

Posted by: 4-12 | January 8, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

the Brunell-Santana game (2006)

Sween, do you mean 2005? Monday Night Miracle?

Posted by: freakzilla | January 8, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Jason - Have you ever met Len P from ESPN.com?

His latest hatchet job on Gibbs is really disturbing.

Did Snyder not let him have extra hot dogs in the press box or something?

Posted by: makalb18 | January 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

We live in the richest area of the nation right. What would it take to make the redskins a public company like GreenBay is? How beautiful would it be for each of us to be a part-owner of the Redskins!

Posted by: slapyak | January 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I say the bigger issue is who/how they replace Joe Gibbs, Team President. Because that will have a huge influence on everything else.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 8, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I think Dan Snyder is just being cautious. According to NFL rules, he has to interview a minority candidate. Also, I'm sure both Gregg Williams and Al Saunders would like to be considered for the job. What was Dan supposed to do, indicate that he favors one over the other, when both Williams and Saunders were likely "in the house" at the time of the news conference. Dan just learned last night of Coach Gibbs' desire to leave, he likely needs time to re-group.

Posted by: bringbackimus | January 8, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

(Interesting article, which I edited for this post...see entire article on link)

Possible Gibbs replacements
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-replacements0108,0,2759446.story
Gregg Williams -- Redskins, assistant head coach for defense, 2004-07 Believed to be the heir apparent, should the Redskins stay in-house...

Bill Cowher -- Retired, former head coach Pittsburgh Steelers, 1992-2006 Given Skins' owner Dan Snyder's affection for big names and impact, Cowher is a potential candidate, depending on his level of interest after a year in the TV studio....

Russ Grimm -- Arizona Cardinals, assistant head coach/offensive line coach, 2007 A member of the Redskins' famed "Hogs" as an offensive lineman in the 1980s and early '90s, Grimm completed his first year in Arizona with Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt....

Todd Bowles -- Dallas Cowboys, defensive secondary assistant coach, 2005-07 The former Redskins defensive back was beaten out by Brian Stewart for the Cowboys' defensive-coordinator position....

Pete Carroll -- Head coach, University of Southern California, 2001-07 Again, given Snyder's deep pockets and desire to make a splash, don't be surprised if he at least gauges Carroll's interest in returning to the NFL....

Posted by: Alan4 | January 8, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

The comments just made by Jason (and Les Carpenter also of the Post) are why the Skins owner, coaches and players do not really open up to the media.

Why should or would they endorse anyone right now? Look at other franchises who have lost coaches...did they immediately endorse a coach? No...they went through the process.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 8, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget people.... MARTY HIMSELF is available!

And if you're thinking of reliving the past, in terms of hiring Gibbs defensive coordinator, A la Petibon, why not relive the past in terms of the Redskins hiring the Dallas Cowboys young offensive guru away from them, a la Norv Turner... Jason Garrett is available!

So many possibilities. I'm just glad Snyder has matured past the point where we'd see Jeff George being flown into town.

Posted by: jvwright | January 8, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Snyder has to figure out if he is going to blow up the team. Hire Bowles or Mike Singletary, for example, and Williams and much of the d staff is gone. Can't say what Al Saunders thinks. Lots of offensive coaches are Gibbs guys, so who knows how much his absence will make people want to move on.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 8, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Another reason that Cowher will not be in Dc is that he is very good friends with Marty, who snyder treated like crap. first guy cowher calls to ask about snyder is marty and that will be the end of any redskin ideas for bill

Posted by: mrodlauer | January 8, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

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http://70chip.us/images/guitarhail.mp3

Posted by: mrodlauer | January 8, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Why should or would they endorse anyone right now? Look at other franchises who have lost coaches...did they immediately endorse a coach? No...they went through the process.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 8, 2008 06:02 PM

Right on, Lisa! Snyder apparently just found out about this less than 24 hours ago... I'm sure he hasn't had time to negotiate a contract for the position yet.
Jwolff03 said it best in his earlier post at 04:15 PM:

If he comes right out and says who they want, kind of takes away any kind of negotating leverage and certainly would make the organization appear to have egg on its face if somehow its first choice didnt work out.


Posted by: Alan4 | January 8, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

I have to assume (yes, I live life in the fast lane) that some of the older coaches will not be back. They'll go voluntarily; or with a little push. At least those on offense.

Buges. Breaux? Burns? Saunders?

If Williams is back, I imagine all of his staff will stay.

If Cowher comes here, I can't see any of the staff staying on. Maybe they can convince Williams to stay around; if Cowher wants him.

Tinker or sea change?

Obama or McCain?

Posted by: SteveMG | January 8, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Hiring an outside coach brings instant pressure to make a big splash. In trying to make an impact you need new players. Without having a stocked draft board and a cap that is unfriendly with many players pondering whether to renegotiate their contracts under a new head coach is not going to give much room for improvement. Every new coach is going to try to bring in "his" players. Can you see where this merry go round is leading?

Posted by: driley | January 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Snyder wants Cowher, but has no idea if he can get him. So to say anything about Gregg Williams would dissuade Cowher, but to say no to GG would remove the chance of using him as a "backup".

There's nothing wrong with shooting for the moon. Assuming you use reasonably priced ammunition.

Posted by: sxpatr | January 8, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

A nice surprise through all of this, i got a christmas card from the Mann family. "Happy Holidays! Charles, Tyrena, Camille, Cameron, Casey & Sammy"
I think my son might be hanging around casey... he will take her last name i promise you that

Posted by: mrodlauer | January 8, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Could the beat reporter possibly draw any more wrong conclusions that he already has? You'd think being wrong as often as he has been this season, he'd begin to rethink his penchant for ridiculous predictions. But no, he just keeps truckin. Most rational people will see Snyder's noncommital stance on this issue THE VERY DAY GIBBS RESIGNED as him just being cautious and patient, and showing respect for Gibbs on this day.

But no, not the infamous beat reporter. Nope. According to the beat reporter, Snyder must have already decided that Gregg Williams won't be the head coach since he didn't hire him the very second Gibbs stepped down.

Hopefully, in addition to getting a new head coach this offseason, we will get a new beat reporter as well...

Posted by: Barno1 | January 8, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

J La J La J La...you really are arrogant and hate the skins don't you...I jsut wish you were off the beat even tho sometimes I think your cool or a total dork.

If Snyder is lacking so much that he is just going to throw 4 yrs of foundation building away...systems, culture, relationships etc....you win...

I think he cherishes what he and Gibbs have built and will try to continue with the least amount of blood let.

It's Grilliams so go back to Bmore...please!

Posted by: steviej1964 | January 8, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

yea!!!!! A Barno post!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tyler84101 | January 8, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

forgive me if this has already been posted. it probably has.

but i assumed gibbs was going after he gave that very long goodbye to the fans at Fed Ex after the Dallas game. Looked to me at the time like he was trying to drink it all in one last time and pay his respects to the fans.

Posted by: whiteben | January 8, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Love the RI Jasno. Great work!

I watched the press conference and I definitely disagree. I feel pretty convinced that the 'skins will eventually hire GW as the next HC. There were plenty of references to liking the way things are going, maintaining continuity, etc, by both Gibbs and Snyder. This Rooney Rule is serious and they simply cannot go very far towards naming GW the next HC at the moment. They have to comply and go through the full process.

Sure, someone new could emerge as a result of the interview process, so Snyder could change his mind. But I think if there were no Rooney Rule, GW would be announced as the HC tomorrow.

Having said that, I was pretty certain that JG would have an extension in place by now at this time yesterday.

Posted by: Flizzo | January 8, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Don't freak out people. JLC has a history of blowing things out of proportion and making conspiracy theories out of non-stories.

Relax.

Posted by: SonnyFan | January 8, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

If you truly believe in continuity, then Williams has to be it, and Saunders remains as O-coordinator. As much as I love Jason Campbell, Collins' performance in this offense merits competition next year at least; Even the Seattle game showed that a qb with a little bit more athleticism may have been more effective, which Jason has; his challenge is mastering the offense to a level where Saunders feels comfortable 'opening the book' for him.
Give Williams a 3 year contract, and if this doesn't work then you 'get out the knives' and go for a late 30-40 yr. old stud who will be with you for 10-12 years.
If Snyder recalls his history Gibbs was hired in his mid-late 30's, so if you Williams doesn't work then go for Russ Grimm if he's available.

Posted by: pdfordiii | January 8, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Guy, you really ought to know this. But Danny Boy COULDN'T endorse Williams because of the Rooney rule which requires minorities to be interviewed. Nothing but silly speculation on your part. Worthless.

Posted by: poguesmahone | January 8, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

anybody else notice how bitter or jaded JLC has turned since we lost in Seattle...

I never saw him as overly critical of this team in most cases, but he jumped right off the "This is a team of Destiny" boat land is quickly taking shots at this team about the game and now this...

What do you want Snyder to say... Joe just decided to resign; do you think snyder has had a backup plan all along to whom would follow Gibbs... Give the man his time to make a dceision then if its awful.... rup him for it. But lay off already...

I agree that he didn't publicly advocate GW in the presser, but maybe he wants to consider all possibilties.

Posted by: EinVB | January 8, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I love Jasno, but agree with my fellow bloggers...you can't give the impression that you have already made a decision.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 8, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

DANIEL SNYDER KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL, ONLY MAKING MONEY. JUST HIRED GREGG WILLIAMS FOR CHRISTS' SAKE. IF GW IS NOT IN CHARGE, PREPARE FOR MORE DARK TIMES WASHINGTON D.C. respect

Posted by: Brian_P_McConnell | January 8, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Only way they go outside is for Grimm ... where is Bugel in all of this?

Posted by: theclevz | January 8, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

There is a league mandated process that must be followed or there would be severe penalties. The questions could not be answered any other way by Snyder without souring the process. I can't for the life of me see where there is any evidence in Snyders statements of a coming bloodletting. He did everything he could to let the fans and team know that he wanted to keep things as close to the status quo as possible, which would mean hiring from within the organization. JLC must be baiting us by making the "bloodletting" comments because there is nothing in Snyders statements to indicate any such thing. There will be no hiring of a General Manager and Gregg Williams will be the next head coach.

Posted by: kcjdlj1 | January 8, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

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