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if you are represented by Drew Rosenhaus, there's a good chance you'll get an invite to Redskins Park at some point in your career.

Going off the top of my head here, but as I recall, Fisher, Fletcher, Petitgout and now Piller are all Rosenhaus guys. So, obviously, having this self-loving, slick haired character as your agent doesn't always get you a contract with The Snyder, but it can get you pretty close.

So that leaves Smoot, Davis and The Rooster (if you count him) as non-Rosenhaus clients to get visits. Considering he already reps Moss, Taylor, Portis, and Cartwright, that's not a bad haul from one ballclub.

Oh yeah, and totally unrelated, but the Cowboys website reported they signed Molinaro yesterday. We'll see if he can make their team. They've had O Line problems but he had a tough time showing much here and never came along.

By Jason La Canfora  |  March 22, 2007; 7:00 AM ET
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So first of all, 1st! and secondly, Are we going to sibn another OL or not? DO we need one now?

Posted by: evan | March 22, 2007 7:24 AM | Report abuse

And your team is the worst and its owner and coach are the worst and it's because of blah blah blah and here let me explain why everything that's happened in the last five years is relevant to this particular blog post and if you happen to like this team then you're an idiot and GO RAVENS!!! -- Jason La Confora

Posted by: BlahBlahBlah | March 22, 2007 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I should proofread a little more.

Posted by: evan | March 22, 2007 7:25 AM | Report abuse

If the Cowboys did sign Molinaro, maybe they are just trying to get some insight into the Saunders' playbook. Not sure how much the info would help, since lots of the playbook was left in the locker room last year. Doubt that Molinaro would have the new hybrid Gibbs/Saunders 2007 version, coming soon to a practice field near you. With his limited skills, it's hard to guess what Molinaro might know anyway.

Posted by: Pulp | March 22, 2007 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Hey JLaC,

this cracked me up!

"as for your deparure, you'll be missed. we hardly knew ye. godspeed. i am pouring a little bit of my 40 Oz. out on the floor of my basement right now. seriously. honestly."

...ef that guy, you rock.

Posted by: JT | March 22, 2007 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, the whole Molinaro to the Cowboys move completely stunned me. The guy flat out sucks, but maybe they think they can mold him into a better player... or, like Pulp said, they are hoping to steal some secrets.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | March 22, 2007 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Zach Pillar is an experienced O-Lineman and would be a great pickup at the veteran minimum. He would give the Skins good depth.

Posted by: Rob | March 22, 2007 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Is there any possibility that the Cowboys signed Molinaro to get info on us? I have no idea why else they would want him.

Posted by: Jason | March 22, 2007 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Man, yesterday was weird!! Thank god that is over. This whole things reminds me like when someone gets drunk at his own party and then yells at all of his friends who attended. Then the next day, he goes to work and just acts like nothing thing ever happened, even though all his coworkers and friends are there again. yea, def very strange. Let's just put this behind us. Oh yea, and Jim Molinaro will be cut before August is over; just a hunch.

Posted by: Macaca Johnson | March 22, 2007 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Don't want to rehash everything in the blog yesterday but would like to get some real guidance on who is making these personnel moves. The articles at the end of last year in Washington Post very strongly implied/if not flatly stated that Gregg Williams handpicked Archuletta and Andre Carter. Now you say the direct opposite. See the two quotes below. Which is it?

Les Carpenter January 3, 2007
Worse were the players Williams wanted in free agency: Archuleta and defensive end Andre Carter. Both were big-name players whose shortcomings had become more pronounced in recent seasons.
Archuleta was so bad a fit he was yanked from the starting squad in the middle of drills one day in November. Troy Vincent trotted out to replace him and Archuleta barely saw the field in ensuing weeks. And nobody has ever told him why, he said.

Williams said he had as much say as the rest of the people in the organization over which players the Redskins signed, meaning when a transaction happened it was because everybody agreed it was the right thing to do, not just him.

But the perception among many personnel people in the NFL is that Williams was allowed to pick his defensive players and then implored Gibbs to force Vinny Cerrato, the team's vice president of football operations, to get those players.

. . .

Jason LaCanfora March 2007
And please, don't try to pin this stuff on the coaches. Go back and read the stories Howard and I did at the end of the season. Ain't no way Gregg Williams, Al Saunders or anyone not named Joe, Dan, or, gasp, Vinny, is saying a word. They take part in personnel meetings along with the scouts, make their case for players when asked to and then sit on the other side of the building while Dan and Joe wheel and deal in from the owner's office.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | March 22, 2007 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Best of luck to Moley Russell's Wart. I hope he gets to start on the Dallas O-line, which would really showcase all the talent we saw glimpses of here.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 22, 2007 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Some real fine blogging yesterday.

Just a's the middle of a somewhat uneventful offseason (the AA trade is NOT big news) for the Redskins and yet we've seen blog entries from many new faces in the last few days. And, a lot of negativity towards JLC. I'm fairly new to this blog, so please correct me if I sound out there, but I think there has been some infiltration by another party...

I'm thinking:

Wash Times writers
Skin's FO
someone else?

Again, please let me know if I'm reaching here. Thanks.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 8:48 AM | Report abuse

James Tuthill, I think the difference in those two passages (yesterday's blog and last season's articles) is the wording and emphasis, not the meaning.

gDUBs, Saunders, the scouts, etc. all have their say in the personnel decisions when it comes to selecting players to target, but the final step is the "wheeling and dealing." That, JLC was saying, is all Joe, theDanny and Eric Schaffer (cap extraordinaire).

Therefore, poorly executed contracts, trades and money allocation can be dropped solely in the laps of those two (not so much Schaffer because he's doing his job, not making the decisions).

It's a fine line, but there is a difference.

I think the emPHASis was on the wrong sylLABle.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 22, 2007 8:55 AM | Report abuse


How many players does Drew represent, and how many of them have visited Redskins Park? Do you think it's closer to 10% or 80%?

I must be slow, but I can't understand the point of this post. I gather you have some sort of animus against Drew Rosenhaus and Dan Snyder, but in your opinion, is it a good thing or a bad thing that so many Redskins are represented by Drew Rosenhaus?

Posted by: KK | March 22, 2007 9:14 AM | Report abuse

So yesterday was weird...agreed....

JLaC, I think maybe what people, regulars included, sorta reacted to wasnt the hard hitting amalysis or the truth to power style rant but perhaps the snide and snarky attitude towards fans. Their was a tone that were all idiots, saps, snyder zombies and that our love for "St. Joe" is laughable.

You challenge us to debate the issues (which people thoughtfully did by the way) and than return with a "you suckers" style rant. Now on this blog I think its pretty well established our fandom is viewed through a fairly critical lens and this is generally not pollyanna central so this is quite a rebuke from you.

The drunk party guy/next day of work analogy was a good one, there was just something oddly inappropriate about the last few days. This blog rulz, we love that your critical but I think I speak for most people when I say we dont appreciate being mocked for being fans of the team, especially when we end up being (and perhaps not without reason...) the regular laughing stock of the NFL, the NFL media and most of the other fans. Getting it from the beat reporter and blog godfather is gonna draw some brushback...

And to my fellow fans, my friends and I have have taken the approach of embracing the "Evil Empire" approach when it comes to the Snyder Skins, we welcome the pure stupidy, black hat, little tyrant fooolisness of it all. And not b/c we agree with it just b/c it helps us stay out of severe drug dependancy....a few years ago when gibbs wore the black baseball hat on the sidelines we knew this was truly satan's team!

So Snyder rulz, humanity droolz....F everybody!

Posted by: chris larry | March 22, 2007 9:15 AM | Report abuse

The Cowboys signed Molinaro to a one year deal and pretty much consider the guy to be camp fodder and insurance.

I really wouldn't read much more into that.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 22, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I don't know, cl. I liked yesterday's blog posting. I feel, as a devoted, loyal and generally rabid Skins fan, I can sometimes get caught up in their hype and forget what this is really all about -- winning football games. And the Skins just haven't been doing that consistently since the 1990s. It's sad really.

I read yesterday's entry as a blog family member (even if not a Skins fan family member) giving a very critical, self analyzing slap to the face. My family can do that to me. Anyone who posted a "stupid Ravens fan" or "stop giving opinion and just give facts" response doesn't really want to analyze the team, and/or hasn't been around this blog long enough to recognize the dynamic.

I didn't completely agree with all of Jason's logic, but most of what he said rang true. It helped me figure out how I really felt about this offseason, instead of just saying "SKINS RULE... WE'RE #1," when we're clearly not. Generally, I'm pretty happy with how things have gone, but that's a sad state of affairs. It's sad because I am happy at us not F-ing up. I want to get to a place where I can be proud of the smart things we've done, and have some real optimism for the season, not just "well we'll be better than last year... yay." We're not there yet... far from it. And I'm pretty much known as the optimistic one in my group of close friends!

I am a Skins fan first and foremost and ALWAYS will be, but I need to keep remembering the crap they pull so that I can accurately reflect on the franchise as a whole, not just move to move, day to day occurrences.

Stop forgetting, Redskins Nation... stop forgetting.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 22, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

I really hope we sign Zach Piller to a two-three year deal for a little more than the vet min. We will then have a solid backup for every position on the line, someone is bound to miss a game or two.

Posted by: Ryan | March 22, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Hey Jason,

Good reasoning and effort in the your last two posts.

I agree wholeheartedly this all stinks.
But if AA was the source who leaked that story to ESPN, would you want that player around anymore?

He was GW's man for GW's defense.
Why isn't GW the ONE to blame for the fiasco that was AA as a Redskin?

And I am sorry, I missed it; but have you posted on why Dale Lindsey is no longer here? Could you post the link for me to read that?

Thanks Jason, we appreciate you so.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | March 22, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Now that the CL that I love. LMAO! JLC made some very good points yesterday. But I still don't get how keeping AD was good for the team. He didn't work well here and to pay him another 5 mil just to be on the bench. I just don't get that one. Oh yeah smack to the back of double G damn head.

Posted by: jm220 | March 22, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I respect Jason's right to have an opinion and have said so here before, but he asked our opinion and, as delusional as we may be, many of us saw this as a good football decision for all of the myriad reasons posted yesterday.

I think that being the true "insider" that he is Jason sometimes takes an air of superiority that, while completely justified by his superiority in all ways related to knowledge of the skins, is none the less a little offensive.

I have to qualify that and say that it is not nearly as offensive as some of what was said by the average blogger.

Posted by: evan | March 22, 2007 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray, here's the blog entry about it. I think JLC's reasoning was that Dale Lindsey was at odds with Joe's "in-house" policies.

From the entry: "Coach Joe went bonkers on Dale in Lindsey's office after he ripped LaVar and was tough on Lemar with his public comments this season, according to my peeps, and Coach Joe hardly enjoyed everything that came out of Dale's mouth."

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 22, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse


I am in basic agreement with you and wouldn't want JLaC to change....besides my "evil empire" enabling crutch I agree Snyder is a disastor...i am just purposing a coping strategy!

My Wed morning media analysis QBing was more on why JLaC caused such a rukus. I agree the "Jason is an idiot" style commentors are morons so not addressing them, but the last 2 days did bring an avalanche of thoughtful musings....and I think it was b/c their was a tone of "why do you love this team foolz" to the last 2 posts.....just my take.

As I posted a longview football analysis I cant really take issue with any of JLaC's points. Although I read this AA sitchuation like Harvey Kietel's clean-up man in Pulp Fiction...need someone to come take care of a bloody mess so you can move forward and prtoect your azz!

Posted by: chris larry | March 22, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

NY Skins Fan, enough w/the conspiracy theories. I'm a new poster, longtime lurker, and the reason I posted yesterday is because, as Chris Larry mentions above, Jason's bile was directed at fans as much as the 'Skins front office. The drunk guy at his own party analogy is apt.

Bucktown: Funny you equate Jason's ranting to that of a family member. Somehow it wouldn't be quite as insulting if he were a 'Skins fan ripping on 'Skins fans.

This was the equivalent of showing up to your favorite bar to watch the game and out of nowhere the bartender tells you how you're an idiot for doing so.

So now that the gloves are off, JLaC, and we're no longer playing nice around here: Care to respond to Tuthill's question? Seems to me he nailed you.

I don't really recall you saying how last offseason's moves were horrible at the time. Oh, what's that? It's hindsight? Well, you have a gift for it, I guess.

Posted by: Oh, please | March 22, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse


"You sendin' the Wolf? That's all you had to say! "

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 22, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Oh, please:

How much were you paid to post that?

All kidding aside (sort of), I've been reading a lot about how JLC's rant was directed at fans--can someone tell me which parts? I don't see it. Just lots and lots of analysis of past moves and motivations.

His opinion is there, but this is a blog and that's what blogs are for. He wants some of us to take our blinders off and really take a close look at the FO's track record. It's hard not to see the problems.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Whoa, this party sucks all of a sudden. It seemed cool for a while but wow. Bad host I guess.

Posted by: Party's over! | March 22, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Well said, CL and Macaca Johnson. Well said.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | March 22, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Nate, so TODAY is the day I figure out who you were referring to as Moley Russell's Wart! I had no idea what you meant the last time you said it (even did some searchs on Flim Flam posts to see if I could connect some dots). Will always love John Candy, may he rest in peace.

cL, I like the analogy to Evil Empire, but I'm thinking more about The Empire (esp, the Dark Lord, Dan Vader). Embracing that, then curse of being a true fan, and defending the Skins till the last raspy breath against the scourge of Big Sports Media -- that is the definition of Kool Aid.

That said, I completely free to choice between the forces of Darkness and Light, at my whim, and to change my mind with the same arbitrariness, including calling the other side Darkness or Light, depending on my mood. And I will be correct whichever and whenever I choose.

F rationality (and its mother!).

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Which parts of the post were directed at fans? Um, the whole thing. A few choice bits taken pretty much at random:

"The overall view of those who like the trade seems to be that it saves some cap room down the line, right? So I guess I go back to, tell me again how this helps the actual product on the field, or in any way makes sense from a purely football standpoint? Cause last time I checked, that is what the NFL is about in 31 other cities."

"And to that I ask you yet again, what the hell does that have to do with football? That's just more bad contracts and more salary cap BS. You guys are all along for this sick joyride the owner takes you on, as he feeds his need for action."

"Ah, they're so busy trying to un-do all the screw ups that unloading Archuleta for a sixth round pick elicits screams of joy from the fanbase."

If you don't see it, that's a reading comprehension issue.

Posted by: To nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse


I don't think the sense of this blog is pro-front office, and I don't think it's necessary for us to take our blinders off. There aren't many pro-front office posters here and most of them are Cowboys or Giants fans.

What Jason did yesterday was to pick at one thing the Front Office did right -- getting AA off the books plus a pick -- and try to turn it against them. Jason was out to lunch on this one. He's not even willing to be objective and give them credit when they get it right. It makes him seem petty and small.

Posted by: KK | March 22, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

As a universally reviled Cowboys fan, I have to say, if you can't take it, don't dish it out.

"But this is coming from our own blogmaster", you say? Well open your eyes to what your owner is doing to you, don't skewer the guy reminding you about it. And as for the belittling nicknames, you guys not only participate, you innovate. "Double-move" anyone? I've never seen a group of fans (Lisa and a couple others excepted) who are so critical, in so many hilarious ways, of their own team. Which is kind of why I like it here. You do the work so I don't have to.

Posted by: SMACK | March 22, 2007 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Smack did you get the e mail I sent you?

Posted by: jm220 | March 22, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh, is there a hammer involved?

Posted by: SMACK | March 22, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

jm220, didn't get it unless this is you:

Can you assist secure my funds sum $38m usd and invest it in your country under your control?

- hajia sani

Or do you work at eHarmony trying to get me to sign back up?

ttlsccr at yahoo dot com - go ahead and lay the wood.

Posted by: SMACK | March 22, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Would now be a good time to say the Les Carpenter article sucked from top to bottom, filled with contradictions and bad reporting? I noticed yesterday in JLC's blog he didn't refer to Les's article (should "Les's" be "Les'"? Dang).

Also, may I ask, since many of us are scratching our heads over the weirdness of the last couple days of blogs: Jason, is Arch Deluxe a friend? Seriously, I'm not trying to pick on you or ruin your credibility. I know from reading Wilbon and Tony over the years that reporters/beat writers can get close to those they cover...I'm just wondering.

Posted by: duck | March 22, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I would just turn the reading comprehension comment right back to you, whoever you are...

Seriously, let's pick some of this apart:

"The overall view of those who like the trade seems to be that it saves some cap room down the line, right? So I guess I go back to, tell me again how this helps the actual product on the field, or in any way makes sense from a purely football standpoint? Cause last time I checked, that is what the NFL is about in 31 other cities."

-- Fair point. Analysis of this trade should be purely based on the end result from an "on the field" perspective. We'll have to wait and see how our safeties perform next season before we can say whether this move was right or wrong. To judge from a cap standpoint is, in fact, not judging from a strandpoint of how our team will be better next season because of this move. Period. Oh yeah: where is the insult to fans here?


"And to that I ask you yet again, what the hell does that have to do with football? That's just more bad contracts and more salary cap BS. You guys are all along for this sick joyride the owner takes you on, as he feeds his need for action."

-- Again, commenting on how the business end of this decision is not relavent, just the outcome on the field. AND, in this paragraph, if you are smart enough to comprehend, JLC is telling us that the owner of the team we love is forcing these bad decisions down our throats as devoted and loyal fans. He's not saying that we're sick for being fans, he's saying that it's unfortunate that the owner is taking advantage of the fans...

That's enough for it however you want. If you're offended, you're a little too sensitive for blogging.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Oh, please, if you tried interacting with the blog a little more and stopped lurking, you might understand what I said. Blog family member -- one who has done an immense amount for/with the people who feel a connection to this blog. In my opinion, the concern for the fanbase came through in the blog entry. It blames the owner for making awful moves (which he has done) and blames him for trying to deceive the fan base (which happens pretty much every offseason).

Relax the defensive posture a little and reread the post without thinking of it as an attack from Dallas, NYC or Philly... or even Baltimore for that matter. On this blog, he's another member posting thoughts on the Redskins.

He was talking about a pattern in theDanny's behavior over the last decade-plus. When you pair that with the decade-plus of losing and sub-standard performance, what do you get? Evidence of rather severe mismanagement.

Trying having a true conversation... some intellectual discourse... instead of yelling about who hurt who's feelings. No one is asking you to quit the Redskins. Just look a little deeper into what is happening with them and discuss it openly.

Are we 10 years old? Did he end the post with "YOUR MOM!"? He posted opinion, and sparked a rather intriguing discussion. I for one am all for that.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 22, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

SMACK, well said (as always), esp. about the nicknamery. I love that part too.

Something tells me (just a hunch) that the Cowboys signed Molinaro (Bugel's three year project) to depth money just in time for him to step up and start in place of the Dallas' version of Archuleta, Leonard Davis. Good luck, Molinaro.

cL, my day job is a LOT like the job of Mr. Wolf -- orchestrating and managing the person who is on "brain duty." Nice pull.

So is someone going to tell me about Zach Piller or do I have to intergoogle this stuff myself?

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I love when the blog pushes past the vitriolic tirades -- as enjoyable as they are -- and then sort through the smoldering wreckage, as we're doing today.

I don't love the garbage from new people who don't realize that picking a nickname and sticking with it hugely increases your believability up here. We're willing to engage all comers in conversation -- and by we I mean our lovely host J-La and we the regulars -- but not when hiding behind anonymity or different nickhames each post. Join the conversation, pick a name and stick with it, it's more fun for everyone.

HAIL to the Redskins, dammit.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 22, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember the day FA began?
I posted saying, we should sign NO ONE on the first rung of players available.

Secondly I posted, We should cut about three players who are older and making more than they should. Shake thing up a bit, letting players know we are not satisified.

Thirdly I said sign second or third tier FA who are young and still hungry but ticked off they were not in the first tier of FA.

Fourthly, trade down from #6 to about 15 and get two additional picks in the draft and get some Defensive help.

Well, what did they do?
a. they spent money the should not have
b. did not cut players who were not productive [well, yesterday they did trade AA.
c. had a great offer for the #6 pick and turned it down.

Somebody tell me,
will they at least get the draft right?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | March 22, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Moley Russell's Wart! Brilliant John Hughes pull, Nate.

I'm still glad that Archuletta's gone. he stink, stank, stunk. I don't care what he does in Chicago (Although my guess would be 3 picks agaings the Skins this year). I'm just glad he's outta here.

But even after yesterday's verbal b***h slap I still love J-La like a fat kid loves cake.

Posted by: etrod | March 22, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

sween, I thought I'd give the Uncle Buck reference one more try as Moley left town. Glad you appreciated it. That's a terrific little moment in a decent flick. R.I.P. John Candy.

Remaining off topic, hail to connskins for meeting up for a beer the other night in NYC. Great meeting you, man. The rest of you NY area folks, I'll try to plan it a little better so I can catch you next I'm on the island.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 22, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I am with nate 100% on the name issue...and for the record love JLaC's use of nicknames...

To continue the Empire talk...I would actually view Snyder in the Emperor role and Gibbs in the Vadar role. Vadar was once good and was currupted by power and ultimately not in charge...

That said Star Wars is dead to me.......the prequells sucked..

F Lucas (except the work he does in educational philanthropy...)

Posted by: chris larry | March 22, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray, which FA pickups are money poorly spent? Which of the player re-signings and extensions do you take issue with? What was the great offer for the #6 that we turned down?

I think there have been a LOT of good, relatively quiet moves so far and nothing that screams out as a glaring, forehead-slapping mistake.

I think the Skins FO has done a decent job so far, AND there's still a chance of something wonderful happening with that #6 draft pick (either getting a stud, first-season impact D-lineman or trading down and getting several dudes who can help this year).

So it hasn't gone exactly as you predicted, but it hasn't been a shabingus either, in my practically worthless opinion. Keep hope alive, brother!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 22, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Bucktown, just went back to Dale Lindsay link, thanks! Interesting to read through the whole scroll that day (and pat myself on the back for some of my forecasts that day, which turned out to be money ... first, I'd like to thank the Academy ...).

Nate, agreed. Fast and furious yesterday. Thinking I wanted to respond here or there, but at one point, there were like 15 posts in a three minute span. Some new regulars over the past few weeks ... not sure if they got proper welcomes: vpar, duck, BT, others I must have missed -- welcome.

p.s. to nonon, Sorry, Tood, and vertical lines everywhere ... take a valium and pull up a seat. Use your intelligence for some thoughtful discussion.

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Ray, as far as our #6 pick, I think you were talking about... something involving disgruntled Dre Bly and a first round draft pick swap, right? The thought of any trade potentially involving Denver gives me an upset tummy. Or maybe there was something else I missed.

Again, I'm desperately trying to see the souvenir 20 oz. beer cup with the Skins and Papa Johns logos as half full, not half empty.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 22, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Ray, Friday, March 2nd.

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

You know its funny. IMO I think this is one of the best offseasons we had in some time. JLC opens up some old wounds and all of a sudden there is a lot of anger and venom being spit all over the place. That is why I like being a Skins fan, we all care so much about a team that really has done very little in terms of success over the past 15 years. So hail to all of you (regardless of how you get your point across) and hail to the Redskins.

Posted by: cdubb | March 22, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

And the draft is still like 6 weeks away, right? Plenty of time to wheel and deal. AND it looks more and more like we'll have our pick of the D linemen if we stand pat.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 22, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

CL, If you take out the Dialogue and non-fight scense, the prequels weren't that bad.

I think Vinny would have to be that blue guy with the horns that was always hanging out with Palpatine but never really did anything.

Posted by: etrod | March 22, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse


Also as this thread one gives a ratz azz about drew rausenhause, his realtionship with Snyder, plus he reps great FB players...I would rather he deal with us thyan not...

Posted by: chris larry | March 22, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Very many people have jumped on me for my love of the skins, which is not rational. They will be my team, win or lose. And I certainly did not take offense at what Jason wrote yesterday. We all have our opinions, and he is entitled to his.

My fervent hope is that Dan Snyder will learn how to lead his organization better than he has since he purchased the team. I am an optimist in most things in life, and that optimism, misplaced though it may be, extends to the future of the skins.

For those posters who do research (DC Sween, the Mole, Bucktown, and all the ones I have missed), thanks. I really enjoy reading what you post.


Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | March 22, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

cL, no no nooooo (falling down a deep tunnel through the Death Star), you cannot tell me St. Joe is the Dark Lord ("Luke, I have three Super Bowl rings"). Vinny is that guy (even though he was never good).

St. Joe is and always will be kindly, he will. Trade with the Denver he must not. He is there to fight against the Darkness. Just because the guy has high metachlorian levels (hate the prequels too), he is not the guy in the mask.

OK, I have to fake some work for a little while. Will check back later ... after some Zach Piller research.

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Mark in the Pylesville, your's yesterday was one of the ones I intended to respond to. Of all the summarizing and repeats and restatements (good and bad), I thought your's said it best. Thx.

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs is Yoda
Saunders is that guy Samuel L. Jackson played
Williams is young Anikin
Danny is the emperor
Tom Cruise is Jar Jar Binks

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor is Luke Skywalker...force is strong in him, he just has to learn to use it

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs is clearly Yoda.
Yoda so old cannot talk he is.
Gibbs matches with the giggle.

After last season, Gibbs behind closed doors gets that look like when Yoda whips out the light sabre.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 22, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Funny stuff NYskinsfan....

Look if you accept the evil empire paradigm there is no way Gibbs isnt Vadar........

Now dont misinterpret I love gibbs but in this frame the shoe fits...

Posted by: chris larry | March 22, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder is George Lucas. He's going to get his money whether the film's a hit or a bomb.

Posted by: KK | March 22, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Would like to add, because some have criticized Les Carpenter's piece, that Jason's own end-of-year story includes the following line. Seems to me the defensive coaches got who they wanted. That is how I read these stories. Jason now seems to be contradicting this point and I am trying to get a handle on who is making the decisions:

Jason LaCanfora January 1, 2007
"Saunders made it clear he wanted Randle El in the same manner that Gregg Williams, the assistant head coach-defense, had Archuleta and defensive coordinator Greg Blache wanted Carter."

Posted by: JamesTuthill | March 22, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Vinny C. is one of those trade federation guys who is always confused and scared and willing to do anything the emperor says.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

J-La would have to be Yoda. He seems to be the one who has the courage to take on the Emperor, but will ultimately fail because the shroud of darkness is destined to fall on the once proud Republic until the chosen one (a GM) is able to bring balance to the force.

Sean Taylor is Darth Maul like a Mofo.

Posted by: etrod | March 22, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

nate, great meeting up with you as well, little dive bars that no one knows about are the best.
Useless fact: it is impossible to lick your elbow

Posted by: connskins | March 22, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

At this point you gotta see Jason Campbell as Luke Skywalker, the embodiment of all our hopes, and Gibbs is Obi-Wan Kenobi teaching him to be a Jedi.

Saunders with his 700-page playbook is roughly analogous to Yoda with his weird manner of speech.

Portis is Han Solo, Sellers is Chewbacca, I am a dork.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 22, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Well, Ladies and Gents...

I'm a long time lurker and a first time poster. First of all, I would like to thank JLC for his contribution to Skins fandom. This is not an easy team, nor is it an easy fan base to cover, and I think he does a great job. Second, this blog is a fantastic spot for those of us who crave skins news 24-7.

The fact of the matter is this: we have a meddlesome owner who at worst doesn't learn from his mistakes, and at best, learns very slowly. I hope it's the latter and not the former.

Our best offseason in recent memory was 2005...why? Because we signed almost no big-name free agents and we kept our continuity and chemistry in tact. Bringing in Arch, Carter, ARE, Lloyd, Saunders, etc. was just too much change in one offseason. And it contributed to negative chemistry. An example of positive chemistry is bringing back a player like Smoot. Another example of positive chemistry is rewarding our homegrown players with contracts they deserve, something this team has neglected to do for far too long. The extensions to Jansen and Thomas (even though he's not homegrown) show that we are making progress. But, JLC is correct: this team has been reeling from the decision to let Pierce and Smoot go. We were never really able to find adequate replacements, certainly not at LB and it has hurt us immensely.

We have a front office that seemingly does not think before it acts. They "react" as opposed to thinking each decision through or having any kind of discernable plan. A team, in this day and age, must use the draft effectively in order to be successful. Now, we have been relatively effective in early rounds, but our late round picks (golston aside) have been quite bad. If we spent as much time scouting free agents as we did scouting college players, we'd be in a much better position. Players out of the draft, except the first round, are always a bargain. The later round gems especially, because they play off of their rookie contracts and you get great value for them. I would love nothing more for us than to trade out of the 6 spot for 3-4 more picks.

To end this stream of thought--don't blame JLC for taking a harsh perspective with this front office. They deserve it. Snyder has owned this team for almost a decade and we've won 2 playoff games in that time. Until he steps back, hires some competent front office help who can articulate and implement a sound fiscally responsible strategy for success, we will continue to make mistakes and then contort ourselves in new and inventive ways to get out of them.

Posted by: MK-ULTRA | March 22, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse



Posted by: "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan | March 22, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Taylor as Darth Maul was my first hunch, but Maul died really early in the series, so I wanted to equate him with more of a success story.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Jason is more like Bill Murray, singing in a lounge somewhere; "Not near but FAR wars"

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 22, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"I am a dork"

I also thought of posting something to this effect...that was the hardest I have ever laughed at a blog post.

It's just that all of the movies are now featured on HBO. There's always one on. Beats so much else that is on TV these days.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

point taken. Sean Taylor is Boba Fett like a mug!

Posted by: etrod | March 22, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse


I think you're close -- but wrong -- to write, in the spirit of JLC that "We have a front office that seemingly does not think before it acts." If you would have put the word "always" in front of "think" you would be correct.

Look, the FO has made a lot of mistakes. You're beating a dead horse. JLC was beating a dead horse yesterday. But the FO is recognizing the mistakes and is reversing them. They brought Smoot back. They can't get AP back, but they got someone who might be better. They made a mistake when they signed AA, and they reversed it yesterday.

Give credit where it is do. All is not lost. We don't blame JLC for taking a harsh perspective on the FO. We blame him for not being more balanced and open-minded.

Posted by: KK | March 22, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I can't help myself I'm a Skins addict. Next to sex, there is nothing like the feeling I get when exiting the stadium after a win, especilly against Dallas, Philly or the G men

Posted by: Throwback | March 22, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Drew Rosenhaus is Prince Xizor. The leader of a syndicate that has power nearly equal to that of the Empire (Agents) who orchestrates most of the turmoil goes on in the Empire for his own financial gain.

a-hem...who's the dork now?

Posted by: etrod | March 22, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

you've got it all wrong, vinny is that little ugly dude who hangs out with jaba the hutt. he's obviously just riding on the glory of those bigger than him when he did nothing to earn the job.

Posted by: big pisano | March 22, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

... and betts and cartwright are wedge and biggs.

Posted by: big pisano | March 22, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"We blame him for not being more balanced and open-minded."

Yeah, just like Fox-News is! hahahahaha

Posted by: "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan | March 22, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

What am I missing, isn't Yoda the TE that was just signed?

Posted by: Throwback | March 22, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse


Open to what, exactly? This is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately kind of thing. I'm sure you've followed the skins intently for years (you wouldn't be posting here if you didn't) and my point is: what in that time has given you real cause for optimism? Bringing Joe Gibbs back comes to mind...but, this is not the same Joe Gibbs that we once had, and I'd be happy to explain in more detail what I mean by that...but suffice it to say, outside of bringing back Gibbs, which I'll grant to Snyder was a great move and reinvigorated this fanbase after the Spurrier debacle, I don't think Snyder has done much else except raise ticket prices and make the gameday experience almost unbearable.

I think JLC's point was: why should we give the front office so much praise for "fixing" what they've already screwed up? I know you think it's a moot point, a dead horse, etc. Fair enough. But seriously, will you be saying that when we trade away another 3rd round pick for a player who pretty much rides the pine all season? Or two picks for a receiver who couldn't even catch a TD pass? It seems like this front office is always looking for the quick fix. They have so little patience, and no desire to do things correctly the first time around. Sometimes less is more. Keeping Pierce and Smoot, it seems to me, would have been front office 101 kind of stuff. How can we rely on them to make sound decisions moving forward when they can't even get the basics right? I mean, can anyone really say who is in charge of the front office? Does anyone know? Isn't the lack of accountability utterly disturbing to any of you? Shouldn't someone be held accountable for the Arhuleta decision? For the Lloyd decision? It makes me think that Snyder must a significant force behind some of these decisions, otherwise someone would have been fired already.

Posted by: MK-ULTRA | March 22, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Brunell is Princess Amidala
Cooley is the leader of the ewoks
Moss is one of those speeders the storm troopers ride around in the woods on
Danny is that blue lady thing with the extendable lips that sings for Jabba...or was she the one in the Bar in the original Star matter

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

KK, I understand your frustration, but JLC has sung praises too (see Todd Wade resigning, Smoot signing, Betts in season resigning, etc.). I think this one just hit home because everyone was so hyped on getting rid of a supposed "cancer," who should have actually been a posterboy for the FO's ineptitude.

I agree that they have done some good things this offseason, but I'm tired of just looking at one offseason in a vacuum, getting excited and then having my hopes trashed with a subpar season. It's been a consistent pattern with this FO and team for a while now.

This is why I appreciated the skepticism about the AA move from JLC. It helps keep me grounded.

I'm not trying to change your mind... know that. I just wanted you to hear why I've been defending the post so vehemently. I think ultimately it helped me keep somewhat level-headed about one of my favorite things in life -- the Washington Redskins.

The Star Wars crew up here is pretty fabulous. Nice work dorks... er... awesome guys... hahaha

Just playing. Cerrato as Jaba's monkey pet is a great mental image.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 22, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

we are using the wrong movie for the analogies, rather than star wars use Space Balls, then it is easier to realize that Snyder is Darth Vadar played by that dork of an actor Rick Moranis

Posted by: connskins | March 22, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't that ever a kerfuffle, yesterday?

And there's the end of all my comments on it. FIDO, folks, FIDO.

Heh, the Star Wars prequels. The films where the dialogue was wooden, the characters had to voice the obvious, and the romance had all the chemistry of two rocks that happened to be rubbing together. Oh, and the first character in a movie I felt compelled to take a dead blow hammer (or a Sean Taylor) to and bring him down several phylums closer to a single-celled organism....

Anyway, as to Star Wars-ing the Skins organization, I was going to pin the whole FO under the 'Trade Federation', but I nixed the thought on account of it being too punny.

Posted by: FlimFlam | March 22, 2007 11:22 AM | Report abuse

So you're a philosopher?
I think very deeply

JLaC dont play around nor does he F around
And you can tell by the FO bodies that are left around
When some FO move jumps up to get beat down
Broken down to its very last compound
See how it sounds? a little unrational
A lot of Insiders like to use the word dramatical! Fresh for '07 you suckas.

- My Philosophy (sort of) by KRS One

Missed yesterday's discussion. Way to put things in perspective JLaC. Excellent blog post.

Posted by: LH | March 22, 2007 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I am more a verbal guy, a bar would be a better forum for me to make my case. yesterday was a wild day on RI some neveres frayed , but all in all very interesting comments by new and old.

I would like you guys to respond to my repeated point that essentially maintains that having the right QB and coach are the true elements of success and stability. Further the Blunder in missing the QB (specifically the Jeff George/ Brad johnson move)is the critial error here. All the other bad moves are still examples of poor FO operation but are not life threating or franchise destabilizing.2nd blunder is Brunnell, we clearly now have the right coach unfortunately he made a very poor choice in his hand picked (read washed up field general).

we are now at a point with the right coach and dare I say (potentially) right QB. In other words we have stability. How much we spend on a ss or who that is are just cogs in the machine all the other 52 are just parts, they are gonna change many of these parts year after year, all teams do.Don't get me wrong the 52 are important meaning you can't have a collection of just bodies you need good talent that believes and is coached up but at the end of the day most of these guys no matter how good are just guys.

Its when your changing these "guys" and changing the coach and changing QB's that shabings the whole thing. thats where we have been, that is not where are.

Posted by: Old School | March 22, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

What am I missing, isn't Yoda the TE that was just signed?

Posted by: Throwback | March 22, 2007 11:14 AM


Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 22, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I think we all need to pause at this poit for a moment of silence in memory of Calvert DeForest, aka Larry "Bud" Mehlman. He passed yesterday and since someone on this blog mentioned the need for consistent nicknames I would hitherto ask that all here refer to me as Larry Bud Mehlman, or Larry Bud for short.

Thank you.

Posted by: evan | March 22, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

the fact are the fact in regards to the FO decisions and FA.. some people out here can't handle the truth.. do this: go thru all the acquisitions since gibbs II and see how much theses players got paid along w/valuable draft picks lost as part of the cost, compared to what they actually contributed in terms of more wins, games played, pro bowl appearances, etc.. i'll give you a few ave to decent pickups but most have been over paying for ave players, and many have been constantly injured, etc.. i mean look a david patton.. come on ! sorry gang JLC is just giving you the facts..
And for all you who say give them a break they are learning.. really.. I would learn going into that job.. this is a hall of fame coach with a team of guys who have had decades of experience, getting paid the most of any FO in the league.. and they're learning !!!!!!! holly crap !!.. what the heck have they been doing the past 30 years ???

Posted by: vpar | March 22, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Old School, I agree. Three ingredients that I believe are needed to have a winning franchise (some excellence in one can help overcome some deficiencies in another):

1) Talented Franchise QB
2) Consistency in system/coaching
3) Good D

We are now attaining the second ingredient, and have a lot of potential in the first (long live JC!).

The third ingredient has regressed every year, but I think the addition of LFB is solid. He is a true MLB, with a couple years left, who knows the system. The MLB is key to gDUBs system, and LFB was (and now is again) HIS guy.

Trade for more picks, draft some defensive help and depth, and away we go...

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 22, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Old School, I've heard you but I don't know that I agree. Football is the ultimate team game. Adn the QB position is the most dependent in football. Everything else around him has to work - OL has to block; receivers have to run correct routes; if they manage, that they then have to catch the balls (and sometimes catch balls that aren't on the mark); and sometimes the defense through TOs has to give the O a short field with which to work. So just having a good QB is a great start but it is not enough.

Posted by: LH | March 22, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Old School, Pretty much agree, but would weight o and d lines pretty heavy as well. Consistency is key.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Old School, I have been and am right with you on that. QB is the position. I believe that Gibbs came back thinking he could get away with his fair-to-middling "leader" type at QB, but has now seen the light and is committed to Campbell.
I got into a good bit of trouble with -- you? Learned? others? -- calling Tom Brady the 'Tiger Woods of football', by which I meant that an elite QB makes ordinary players into decent pros, while our shabingus over the last five years has made ordinary players into other teams' players.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 22, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse


You praise them for fixing a mistake because they put it behind them. If you don't praise them for that, what would you praise them for? Jason thought they should continue to live with the mistake -- pay the guy $5 mill to sit on the bench and stink up the clubhouse.

I always thought, when you're in a hole, stop digging. The 'Skins stopped digging the Archuleta hole and got out of it. If they can get out of some of the other holes they put themselves in (and I agree with you there are plenty of them) then they should be praised for that.


I think this one hit home because Jason got it so wrong. He picked a bad example to beat up the team again. I'm not sure there's anything to beat the team up for this off-season, although if Smoot or Fletcher don't work out, this blog will host many 20-20 hindsighters.

I guess where I'm at with this "one off-season in a vacuum" is when you hit rock bottom, then the only way is up. Maybe we've started to go up. It's too early to say, but there are no obvious signs that we're still going down. On the other hand, as they say on Wall Street, "Even a dead cat bounces." Maybe it's just a dead cat bounce. It's too early to say.

Posted by: KK | March 22, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I agree with the fact that the offseason moves have been refreshing so far. We haven't chased the big money free agents (probably because we can't afford to) and we've signed our own and brought in free agents for reasonable prices who know the system and should add impact immediately. could be as you said "a dead cat bouncing" and we won't know until the season begins. Snyder likes to think of himself as some larger than life, M&A hotshot. Know, I'm not going to downplay his business acumen, although I could do so easily, but he has an unfortunate habit of acting like Gordon Gekco from Wall Street--he always has to be making deals, and not necessarily good ones...he loves the adrenaline--it's hard if not impossible for him to sit seems at times, that winning comes secondary to that thrill...and for those of us who like to see our team win, that's a big problem.

Posted by: KK | March 22, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I was trying to make this exact point the other day...that our qb play has been directly related to our team success over the past 15 years. Rypien had a great year, win the the super bowl, Brad Johnson was good we had a great playoff run, Brunell's only good season we also were a very dangerous playoff team.

There isn't that much of a secret to NFL success. Unless a team has an absolutely dominant defense, qb play must be better than mediocore for the team to be good. Offensive line and RB can make a qb look better (see Delhomme, Jake), but the panthers have also had a great defense.

We can criticize all the Lloyd, Ducket, and Archuleta moves, but the FO's biggest failing in the past 15 years has been lack of consistent qb.

Posted by: Jon | March 22, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Sorry--post above is mine, not KK's

Posted by: MK-ULTRA | March 22, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Draft Update for Dukes fans (Diesel, BandwagonBlues, ChrisLarry etc.)

Scouts from the Bengals, Colts, Eagles, Jets, Panthers, Rams, Redskins and Texans showed up to an In-State pro day hosted by JMU to look at several Virginia standout football players.

Alvin Banks (Tailback) ran a 4.5 40.
Corey Davis (OL) pulled a hammy on a 5.9 40 shabingus
Local Favorite Akeem Jordan (LB) ran a 4.6 40 and repped 225 21 times.
Isaiah Dottin-Carter has already signed with the Montreal Allouttes ran between a 4.5 and 4.6.
Heralded QB Justin Rascati has already attended a few pro days at Florida and Virginia Tech, ran in the 4.6/4.7 range at the Tech pro day and will continue to work out in hopes of hearing from one of the NFL teams on draft day.

Info from Mike Barber's article today in the DNR.

Posted by: Dorf | March 22, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Jason-I think you are doing a fine job. But please make sure to make everyone aware that it is my excellent pro personnel decisions that enabled us to win 5 games last year. When you stop to think about it, 5 games against other pro-level teams is a mighty big feat!!! I'll try my best to shock and awe the Skins nation come the April draft. Stay tuned!!!

Posted by: Cerattto | March 22, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Zach Piller looks promising, but I dunno whether "vet minimum" is realistic. He's been a starting guard for the Titans, entering his 8th or 9th season. He's 6'5", 315 pounds, but went down with an ankle injury. He was due $3M this offseason, so he got whacked by the Titans. Titans, I know, but once VY came on the scene, the Titans' season picked up, so maybe the O-line was doing something right. [Didn't check to see which week he went down.]

His story sounds alot like the story of Todd Wade. Big dude, older, former starter, injured wheel, due big money before being whacked, needs a fuller season of good health to regain the "starter money" interest from other teams. Seems like he can get more than vet minimum though.

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Jason-I think you are doing a fine job. But please make sure to make everyone aware that it is my excellent pro personnel decisions that enabled us to win 5 games last year. When you stop to think about it, 5 games against other pro-level teams is a mighty big feat!!! I'll try my best to shock and awe the Skins nation come the April draft. Stay tuned!!!

Posted by: Cerattto | March 22, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I've been thinking...If Sean Taylor were a Star Wars character, He'd be F'n Sean Taylor.

You may say, 'But etrod, there was no character in Star Wars named Sean Taylor!' Well, are YOU going to tell him that?

Posted by: etrod | March 22, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I think jason's posts have been right on... am shocked he's willing to write these things and then have to face the owner/coach/players/etc... Very impressive.

As someone who runs a small organization of five or so employees, I can certainly understand that when things with someone don't appear to be working our or you're frustrated or pissed, it is tempting to take the quick way out and fire/re-hire etc. This is what the Redkins have been doing continuously since Snyder has owned the team.

But, I also know that it is often important to squelch those instincts for the long-term good of the organization ajnd work with people to maximize their strengths and use them differently rather than simply cutting them loose. In any organization, turnover kills and is very very expensive. Obviously some turnover is necessary, but turnover is often a knee-jerk reaction to frustration and the standard let down that comes with virtually all employees since usually when you hire someone you have unrealistically high hopes and are caught up in enthusiasm and excitement. The key is to get past the inevitable let down when you realize that, like everyone else, they are human. Its excitement/enthusiasm --> letdown --> reality and moving forward maximizing reality. The Redskins are generally simply unwilling to do the third, instead simply hiring and firing to go through the same unrealistic and emotional cycle time and time again.

Posted by: Longtime Fan | March 22, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse


We have one of the better lines in the league , we run the ball have Moss and Cooley near top level at their positions.

defensively for now I throw out last season, we will improve how much, my guess we get to middle of the road at least.

but I expect big leap in O portis/betts not to mention we have a proven dynamic offensive system that we are not learning from scratch.

QB is the most complex and demanding position one which all elements must come together and that includes leadership. football is a team game it has to played together, two key people in the overall confidence building psyche of the team QB and head coach

Lack of or false confidence in either or both destoys your team. I think our players believe in the coach and are excited about the future with Campell.

Posted by: Old School | March 22, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

etrod LMAO!!!

Posted by: jm220 | March 22, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Jabba the Hutt offered Sean Taylor the galaxy if he would join forces with him.

In light of this insult, Sean Taylor ate Jabba and took the universe.

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Haven't seen Star Wars since I was little, but when Darth Vader tells Luke he's his father, wouldn't Reaper do his "Punter Hunter" move on Darth and say "F you, I'm his father, b*tch"

Posted by: Anonymous | March 22, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Old School, preaching to the choir with me on this. EXCEPT, that a great QB isn't anything w/o his O-line. You have to start at the basement, the foundation walls -- the O-line. A great O-line can make a mediocre RB or QB look very good. A bad O-line can make a great RB or QB look horrible. (RB, see Edge going from Indy to AZ ... QB, see Garcia go from Cleveland to Philly).

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

David Letterman: One way to rid your house of guests who overstay their welcome is to fill your refrigerator with unsavory foods, like jars of beets.

Larry Bud: [opening the fridge] Steeb, steeb, steeb, I can't wait to try this new steeb.

Letterman: Of course, it doesn't work if your guest is dyslexic.

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Adding to the Star Wars theme here I nominate Sean Springs to play the character of Dr. Spock.

Posted by: Poochie | March 22, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Old School, forgot to say that I think the Skins have rebuilt and stabilized the foundation, so you are right ... its time to start working on a QUALITY #2 in the unfortunate possibility that Jason Campbell gets hurt.

I do love everything that I hear coming out of Campbell's mouth. His head is exactly in the right place.

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Poochie, please tell me you're joking.

Posted by: etrod | March 22, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse


I agree with you. And I guess what was so disconcerting about Jason's rant is that it was about...Archuletta. If they had traded Portis...or Moss...the Reaper....Marcus Washington...Randy Thomas, etc. it would have been understandable (I would have joined in!!) but Archuletta?

Posted by: Lisa | March 22, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Now I regret shifting chris Larry's original reference to the "Evil Empire" to Star Wars. Let's try this again.

Yesterday, several posts let their wishful thinking morph into a "rumor" that the Skins might try to get Ryan Clark back. [Personally, the power of rumor is the way to convert group will into action, so I applaud the effort.]

Once that Ryan Clark piece got added to Smoot and Stoutmire (with Reaper and Springs in there), I got the image of Elwood and Jake Blues ... "Hey man, we're getting the BAND back together." Like the band that gave us the top D in 2004 (2005?). [Not completely accurate analogy b/c Smoot wasn't here then, but the Blues Brothers are alot less dorkish than Star Wars.] Of course, in this analogy, the reason they are getting the band back together is because The Penguin guilted them into it.

Which character in the Skins movie represents The Penguin? (or maybe it was something like Sister Mary Penguin, not quite sure)?

Posted by: dcsween | March 22, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Re: the facts of yesterday's post. I think you have to take a close look at the first assertion in his post -- that "the overall view of those who like the trade seems to be that it saves some cap room down the line, right?"
Maybe by volume, but not by weight. My sense in the past few weeks was that the cap hit made thinking of moving him impossible, so we were going to have to fit him in somewhere. But ask yourself this -- if he was an FA this year and came to us with a proposed deal of 3 yr / $8.1M / $5M guaranteed, would the skins take that, knowing what his strengths and weaknesses are? I know I wouldn't. So what I saw and heard in the blog comments was a good number of people saying 'he stank and there's future cap relief' but an equally strong arguement that it was a stop-loss limit problem -- any fit was going to be forced, and we don't have a need for a 220 lb. linebacker.
So next year, when he's successful at the line of scrimmage on the #3 defense in the league, don't think for a minute he'd have done the same thing for our #27 defense... even if our moves this season get us to something incredible like #10, a team like Chicago can hide his weaknesses and emphasize his strengths in a way that we probably can't.
So, Jason, your comparison with the stock market was spot on at the end, but I can see it another way -- Arch Deluxe is a good player and a good person who might've fit in our top-ten rated defense, but was painfully exposed and exploited in our top-thirty defense, and we got a chance to move on. We got to dump a stock that, while it might have solid fundamentals and may return to prosperity, doesn't meet our investment objectives. Booya!

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 22, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to take a moment to point out that I made up the best nickname for anyone in the NFL. Many in my circle up here are Jets fans. So I came up with the name Tits Mangini.

Manboobs is such a great nickname, and it's funny that often time man boob size closely correlates with football genius. It's just that "Tits" is such a great first name. Thank you Anchorman.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I've been stumped on this one: who's Lando?

The smooth operator who dabbled briefly with the dark side, to the dismay of his friends and allies, before coming back into the fold and blowing up the second Death Star to complete his redemption arc... I give you Fred Smoot as Lando.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 22, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Jason: Your analysis of the AD debacle is spot on. Unfortunately, as long The Snyder is the owner, the Redskins will be a mess. He thinks the team is his toy. He bought them, didn't he? Yes, The Snyder knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing. We'd better root for the Ravens, who have a smart young owner who can get out of the way of his ego.

Posted by: jeb | March 22, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Good call, Nate. Can we consider the NFC East the Death Star or would it be the Superbowl?

Posted by: etrod | March 22, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse


i agree I don't bother talking about the other fundementals... ie O line, stopping the run, special teams etc cause those are core beliefs and points of emphasis of one Joe Jackson Gibbs

Posted by: Old School | March 22, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

get back to work geeks - give it a rest

Posted by: daveb55 | March 22, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about the Blues Bro's. Maybe the fan base would be the penguin???

Posted by: etrod | March 22, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

daveb55- What, you're not hungry today? Good to see the blog getting back to normal.

Posted by: 4-12 | March 22, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

daveb55, what's for lunch today, buddy?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 22, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

From Pete Prisco:
What the heck are the Chicago Bears doing trading for Adam Archuleta?

He can't play. He's too slow. He's a liability in coverage. Forget the big hits. They aren't worth the problems in coverage.

Yes, I know that coach Lovie Smith had him when he was the coordinator for the Rams, but don't you think Washington Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams would have found a way to use Archuleta if he was talented enough to stay on the field?

Williams made Blaine Bishop a Pro Bowl safety in Tennessee by covering up his coverage problems. He tried to do that with Archuleta, but it didn't work, and he was benched after signing a large free-agent deal last spring that averaged $5 million a season.

It turned out to be the biggest free-agent flop of the 2006.

Now the Redskins get rid of his contract and get a sixth-round pick to do it.

When are these teams going to learn that safeties who can't cover are now liabilities. You don't think quarterbacks will be licking their chops getting ready to find Archuleta on the field, do you?

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | March 22, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

On Space Balls the Darth Vader character was Lord Helmet. Atleast that's what they all called him. Great movie.

Just a lil random info if anyone cares to know.

Posted by: the don | March 22, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

daveb55, speaking of giving it a rest, isn't it about time you gave Jenny back her vibrator?

Posted by: SMACK | March 22, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Nate -- I read the first sentence and immediately said "Smoot".

Also Nate -- referring to a previous iteration of this phenomenon -- I couldn't help but think after reading Jason's post yesterday -- of
"...I want a goddamn concerted effort to come out of a record that isn't a fcking up-tempo record every time I gotta do a goddamn death dedication! It's the last goddamn time; I want somebody who uses his fcking brain to not come out of a goddamn record... that's up-tempo and I've got to talk about a fcking dog dying!...Boy, is this fcking ponderous man...ponderous, fcking ponderous."

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 22, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I've got it!

Joe Gibbs = Ron Burgundy. The leader of the pack whom they all rely on for guidance and approval. He relishes the role but is generally clueless

Dan Snyder = Champ Kind. Brash, bold, loves the attention, goes to sea world and takes his pants off.

Vinny Cerrato = Brick Tamlin. No need to explain.

Gregg Williams = Bryan Fantana. Cocky but ignorant. Calls his defense the Octagon.

Posted by: etrod | March 22, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Jason I like you because you speak your mind, however you seem to really dislike Snyder. He does not seem like a likeable guy, and has made a lot of bad moves but at least he does spend money on coaches and players. It could be worse. We could have Abe Pollin owning the redskisn. See the last 25 years. I think Snyder will learn from his mistakes and eventually get it right. He needs to accept the fact that he should hire a true VP of football OPerations to be the personel guy and to hire the next coach once Gibbs retires in the next couple of years. I dont see Gibbs staying much longer whether he wins or not the next couple of seasons. He is old and looks tired.

Posted by: bethesdaboy | March 22, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Since they cut Fabini and Columbo is coming off yet another injury and the guy they signed from the Cardinals is better at guard, maybe they will start Molinaro and he will go against our new DE Jamaal Anderson!!!! Yeah!!! Go Skins!!!

Archuletta -- I don't know why they signed him in the first place but it's better for all involved to part company. Keeping him around for another year just for cap reasons is not justified, especially since he didn't want to be here and the defensive coaches didn't want him here.

Posted by: rb | March 22, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Great work taking the edge off, dudes. I've done a lot of blog-inspired laughing today, a nice change of pace from yesterday's sturm und drang up here.

Super-conscientious of you all to pull together and get this blog back on track. It's a long offseason, and we've gotta stick together.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 22, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

He was [Lord] Dark Helmet.


Posted by: cload and daggar | March 22, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse


forgot to answer you, D has regressed. our lack of pressure (Impact DE) fianally got to us combined with bad talent evalution Holdman, Rumph, Wright, arch. just can't have that many bad fits getting significant playing time, plus someone mentioned correctly that our lack of offensive production just increased the pressure on the defense and it could not hold up.

Anyhow, just dropping the aforementioned and making the additions thus far are going to help both the play and chemistry. Now draft an impact defender

Posted by: Old School | March 22, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

New post......

Posted by: 4-12 | March 22, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

As for J LaC, your being much too harsh on Skins fans and front office. In this day and age of the NFL, everyone makes some bonehead moves. Don't even start me with the Ravens.

Bottom line, the only geniuses are the Colts, cause they won the SB. Everyone else miscalculated in free agency and the draft, because it didn't work.

So now we are in a new offseason, and the skins are trying to get it right, just like 31 other teams. Cut em some slack cause at least they spend the money and try to get better.

Posted by: rb | March 22, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I've got it! Final word on Star Wars (probably not):

Patrick Ramsey as C3PO - scared of everything and always looking to avoid confrontation

Carlos Rogers as C3PO - just kind of stands there, beeps a lot and seems to get "burned" a lot from constantly getting set on fire

Lavar Arrington as General Greivous - very scary and with such potential to cause damage, but seemed to have some kind of lingering ailment

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 22, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The problem, as seen by a lurker, is that JLaC asked for input. Once it was received he went off on all who wrote in with a differing opion. For all that he was right about-especially the front office-when you ask for others opions you should respect it. The second part of the blog showed very little-if any-respect for those how didn't agree totally with him.

Posted by: thebish | March 22, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse


I would never root for the Ravens, but you speak the truth. The problem with this franchise is and always will be the owner, who as you said knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Posted by: MK-ULTRA | March 22, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Joe Bugel is Lando.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 22, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe Archuleta signed last year for the measly amount of money we paid him. I was trying to give him a 20M signing bonus. But alas, it was not in the cards.

Posted by: cerattto | March 22, 2007 7:14 PM | Report abuse

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