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Posted at 2:52 PM ET, 01/24/2011

At the Senior Bowl: Evaluating NFL prospects

By Rick Maese

I'm about to head to the first practice of Senior Bowl week. Outside of the NFL Scouting Combine, the Senior Bowl is considered one of the best opportunities for NFL teams to grade and judge prospects. And there's several interesting ones here in Mobile, Ala., this week.

Before we talk about who is here, let's first touch base on who isn't here: namely, the Redskins coaches. Last year, Mike Shanahan had just finished assembling most of his staff and the coaches all headed to the Senior Bowl together. This year, though, Shanahan and his staff aren't expected in town. Instead, General Manager Bruce Allen, Scott Campbell, the team's director of player personnel, and several scouts will be attending practices and studying the prospects up-close.

So, who will they be looking at? There are about 100 players here, and one of the most intriguing names is quarterback Jake Locker. Some in the Redskins organization were high on him a year ago, so it will be interesting to see how they feel heading into this year's draft.

In Saturday's game, Locker will be lined up across from Baylor nose tackle Phil Taylor. He's another player the Redskins might have their eye on, considering their need for a strong anchor on the defensive line. There are also several good offensive linemen, such as Nate Solder, from Colorado, and Wisconsin's Gabe Carimi.

Some local players are here, too, including Maryland running back Da'Rel Scott, Virginia Tech defensive back Rashad Carmichael and Virginia long snapper Danny Aiken.

Here are the full rosters. Which players would you like to learn more about?

By Rick Maese  | January 24, 2011; 2:52 PM ET
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Comments

Wow, a myriad of posts today.

Posted by: wireman65 | January 24, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Which players would you like to learn more about?

By Rick Maese | January 24, 2011; 2:52 PM ET

Can we each only pick one? If thats the case I'm going to have to think about it for a minute.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 24, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Cutler should wipe his nose and tears and just "deal with it".

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 2:57 PM

We saw M Sanchez wipe his nose yesterday, and I don't think M Brunnel was too happy about it.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

YES. What would you do with Chris Neild. NT, 3-4 DE, 4-3 DT ???

Posted by: Stu27 | January 24, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

They just need a big fat guy that CAN play nose tackle, and ...

Posted by: rmcazz | January 24, 2011 12:50 PM

Big fat and who can drop into coverage on a zone blitz, pick off a pass from a QB who had NEVER SEEN a guy that size in coverage, then return the pick for TD, followed by a chubby little dance.

Capers said that was the first time that the Packers called that zone blitz all season ... and the DBs were SHOCKED that Raji HELD ONTO the pick, much less returned it for six.

Also, the new NFC and AFC trophies are hideous. I'm guessing the new Lombardi Trophy is going to be plexiglass.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah me too. People just keep saying oh ho humm well just go ahead and draft a NT.
They dont grow on trees and its probably the on of the hardest college to pro transitions, not to mention the pitfall in concern to evaluation.
I have no clue how we fill the NT need. UNless its a big name FA it will not be permanently fixed this year. Which is obv bad for a 3-4 D.

Posted by: Stu27 | January 24, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

The top rated NT is expected to fall into the third round. It would be great if we actually had that pick. We'll probably have to settle for a 5th rounder (big time risk) to split time with Bryant. I guess we could always go dig up what's left of Demarcus Granger (also a big time risk) and see if his back is healed up. Other than that I think we are SOL at NT again this year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 24, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't the Skins coaches going to the Senior Bowl?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Big fat and who can drop into coverage on a zone blitz, pick off a pass from a QB who had NEVER SEEN a guy that size in coverage, then return the pick for TD, followed by a chubby little dance.

Capers said that was the first time that the Packers called that zone blitz all season ... and the DBs were SHOCKED that Raji HELD ONTO the pick, much less returned it for six.

Also, the new NFC and AFC trophies are hideous. I'm guessing the new Lombardi Trophy is going to be plexiglass.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Raji almost got stripped of the ball before he got into the endzone. Remionded me of that Cowboy (who was it) that started celebrating at the 5, lost the ball on the one. I loved it!!!

Posted by: frediefritz | January 24, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Paea, that big boy from Oregon.

How about that QB from Nevada that dcsween has a man-crush on.

Love me some Jake Locker (if he falls to the 2nd round)

Von Miller & Christian Ponder will be Redskins. Oh yes. They will be skins.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 24, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

People just keep saying oh ho humm well just go ahead and draft a NT....They don't grow on trees....


I'm someone who wants to draft a NT.

Last year, T Cody intrigued.

This year, Powe, Taylor, and Daceus are three names to be on the lookout for as they are all highly-rated, run-stuffing types.

And we're not looking for them to start on day one as A Bryant should be the opening day starter.

We want to draft a kid who we can groom into a dominate starting role so the transition issues are a moot point.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 24, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Not related but funny because it happened to Mark Brunell...

http://robb-crocker.blogspot.com/2011/01/watch-mark-sanchez-picks-nose-wipes.html

Posted by: robb9crock | January 24, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't the Skins coaches going to the Senior Bowl?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:14 PM

Lack of interest. Expect those top 2 picks to get traded back for lower picks or packaged for some veteran players.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't the Skins coaches going to the Senior Bowl?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:14 PM |

In a normal organization the scouts and the GM go to these types of things not coaches.

I'm sure the scouts will put a list together and then the coaches can see who they want at there pro day.

They can also bring them in for private workouts.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 24, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Which players would you like to learn more about?

By Rick Maese | January 24, 2011; 2:52 PM ET

Stephen Paea, Von Miller, and Ryan Kerrigan

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

dcsween

...and the DBs were SHOCKED that Raji HELD ONTO the pick, much less returned it for six.

Thanks.

I think a lot of folks think today's NFL defensive lineman is some big, fat guy.

Today's NFL interior lineman is usually a very athletic guy.

The trend started years ago in retaliation to the 300+ plus Hawg lineman started by Gibbs @ Company.

Folks figured turning the best big athletes they have into defensive ends, tackles, and nose guards meant the 320 pound offensive lineman who was a smasher suddenly had a tougher assignment:

A better athlete with the same bulk and improved conditioning.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 24, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Is Rick Maese taking over the blog?

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 24, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Now that is genius, commenting like an immature grade schooler. Idiot Scramp

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 24, 2011 11:33 AM |

Ah the irony. Pot...meet kettle.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Btwn MCL and ACL, which is the really bad one?

If the worse one to rupture is the ACL, then I'm still for a straight up trade of McNabb for Cutler (though I'm guessing maybe Martz isn't).

etrod, Colin Kaepernick. Plus he comes with a vowel to spare.

Also, my latest thing is that, with their first pick, I want to the Skins to draft a guy who was selected by his teammates to be a team captain. Not sure how else to find "leaders" or character guys, but it occurs to me that prima ballerina WRs rarely get picked as team captains. [Of course, my theory here is shot if anyone tells me that Jimmy Clausen was a team captain ... well, maybe not ... that's just the type of d!ck that would be worshipped at Notre Dame.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Beans!!!!


How you like them 'zards knocking of YOUR C's Saturday night?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Which players would you like to learn more about?

By Rick Maese | January 24, 2011; 2:52 PM ET

Kristofer O'Dowd
Rodney Hudson

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 24, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

... Today's NFL interior lineman is usually a very athletic guy. ...

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 24, 2011 3:27 PM

That's also my thinking about the guys who get picked in the first round generally. EVERYONE of the guys picked in the first round should be an athlete first, position player second (and walking billboard for replica jersey sales last).

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

dcsween,

Keim has written some very insightful articles on Shanahan's method of acquiring players. This John Keim article, written a few weeks, ago said it's normal for Shanahan to avoid Senior Bowl:

"When it came to the draft, Shanahan did most of his scouting off highlight films. He did not attend the Senior Bowl; and he would only briefly attend the scouting combine, say multiple NFL sources."

Here's another Keim article written last year which I have found very insightful.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"If Sam Huff spent his career fighting off 310 pound offensive guards, I'd agree. But he didn't. Ray Lewis has had a long productive career against bigger, faster athletes, is a team leader and remains effective. Deal with it and stop the hate: but if you don't like him, that's coo, too."

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 24, 2011 12:59 PM

"Lewis is 20 lbs heavier than Huff, 250 lbs to 230 lbs (same height, 6' 1"). And Huff played against offensive linemen like Tony Liscio, who was 6' 5" and 270 lbs. So sure, the O-linemen in Huff's day were lighter, but so was Huff (as compared to Lewis). It's all relative."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 24, 2011 1:13 PM

The game has changed so much in the 40(!) years or so since Huff played that the only meaningful way to compare him to Lewis is to see how they measured up to their contemporaries. To what extent did they dominate? My recollection of Huff's playing days (and yes, I am that old), is that he was thought by some of his contemporaries to be a product of the New York media (during his days as a NY Giant), and that, while he was very good, he was never in the same class as guys like Joe Schmidt of the Detroit Lions, Ray Nitschke of the Packers, or, later, Dick Butkus of the Bears.

Lewis, on the other hand, seems to have had few, if any, peers during his years in the league. Although his skills have declined with age, no current middle/inside linebacker comes to mind who has been as good, as long, as Lewis has. My vote is for Ray Lewis as the better of the two players.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | January 24, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

John Wall changes the whole equation for the Wizards..He showed he's Rondo's match, and with a little help , will lead His Children to the Promised Land..

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

ha red, that was ugly....credit to the wiz, they earned it....is your boy Lebron over his sprained ankle yet...or is he gonna act like your other boy, Favre and have this one drag out....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 24, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Washington Redskins have zero Ap All Pro's this year. None on the first OR second team.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

On Carson Palmer ... can we just say no?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 2:43 PM

Do you think the Skins are better off going for a possibly bargain-basement vet (K Orton, V Young, K Kolb, A Smith, B Quinn, M Hasselbeck, Jamarcus R) or finding a rookie QB to start next year?

Shanahan's history says he kind of likes vets, but then it almost seems like the available vets aren't much of an upgrade over the guys we have already.

Posted by: Alan4

On the QB front, Skins should look exclusively in the bargain basement ... we probably have a decent bargain now in Grossman (though I'd be happy with Orton at a discount, the guy seems to be improving and has that 'find a way to win' about him). It may sound silly, but I think the year he had in Denver, where he got to throw it a ton, is really helpful for a developing QB. He'll be better in years to come because of it.

I think we look to get solid at cheaper positions first, then look for a QB that fits us. Maybe that's as soon as 2012, but I don't think it makes sense for us to spend heavily on a QB in 2011.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Just watching the NFL Mock Draft picks on the bottom of the ESPN screen, and both Kiper and McShay have us taking Cam Newton.

I hope they're wrong.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 24, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

So Mark Bonnell had some boogers wiped on him?

Good for him and his super soaker key chain he calls an arm. Everyone likes to talk about the athletes who spend their money on frivolous things, but has anyone asked why is Brunell still playing because he has no money?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

What about the basketball players we can convert to tight-ends or linemen, or the secret Cowboy facility in Mexico where they are raising future Mexican defensive ends, and all the other alternative sources for players (like that 6'10" Ottawan behemoth in the East-West Shrine game that escaped from the lab??)

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow, click the link to the Senior Bowl, then go to the Gallery menu and scroll down to the 2008 Senior Bowl. Mostly a bunch of washouts. Also, the MVP of the 2006 (maybe it was 2007?) was Sinorice Moss ... now out of work. It was the same year that brought the genius of Charlie Whitehurst and John David Booty. There are still some guys who did well in the NFL (like I never really noticed Harry whatshisface from Atlanta till recently) or even knew that Matt Forte even played college ball, but its a painful reminder that some of the most beloved draft prospects can really turn out to scuk in the NFL (and that some of the lesser lights can really do something the opposite).

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Beans, LeFraud played Saturday night too. Dropped 37 on some team.

I really hate that guy.

And I wouldn't worry about the Redskins taking Cam Newton. He isn't a Shanahan QB.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

1. OLB - somebody to play opposite Sackpo.
2. WR
3. G/C to upgrade from Hicks or Rabach
4. NT
5. Young QB to Develop

= 7 wins in 2012.

Posted by: MonkMossMann | January 24, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Washington Redskins have zero Ap All Pro's this year. None on the first OR second team.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 3:43 PM

Doesn't look like a lot of surprises (but I gotta say, I never really heard of Kyle Williams from Buffalo ... but then again, I don't make a point to watch a Buffalo game unless I have to).

My favorite part is the QB for the second team All Pro: "vacant"

Sounds like the collective identity of the Skins rush defense.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

also, not sure why, but it looks like there are NINE second team safeties for the second team All Pro selections. [I guess somebody has to be All Pro kick off return coverage.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

We want to draft a kid who we can groom into a dominate starting role so the transition issues are a moot point.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 24, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

How well he transitions to the pros is a moot point???

okay im lost now.

Terrance Cody intrigued last year because he was a legit 1st round pick but not as good as McCoy who was a legit top 5 pick both at NT. There is no one within shouting distance of either of those guys. If we get a NT out of this draft it will be the diamond in the rough.

Posted by: Stu27 | January 24, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

In other news:

Some girls varsity team got smoked like a bag of 'dro 108-3 and the the fruitcake that went on that shooting spree in Arizona has entered his plea.

Yeah, you guessed it "Not Gulity". I say good for him. Now when they fry the POS it won't come as a surprise to him.

Killing nine year old little girls? NOT F-ING COOL!

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jason-

Like your column. You ask what players I'd be interested in??? Easy.

Stephan Paea DT/DE from Oregon State, the PAC-10 defensive player of the year and first team AA.

Next, Mason Foster LB from Washington. An alert, fast acting, sideline to sideline demon.

Finally, Jake Locker, who had a poor year but little help. He will polish up nice.

I hope you are there to look and comment first hand.

Posted by: rdusa33 | January 24, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jason-

Like your column. You ask what players I'd be interested in??? Easy.

Stephan Paea DT/DE from Oregon State, the PAC-10 defensive player of the year and first team AA.

Next, Mason Foster LB from Washington. An alert, fast acting, sideline to sideline demon.

Finally, Jake Locker, who had a poor year but little help. He will polish up nice.

I hope you are there to look and comment first hand.

Posted by: rdusa33 | January 24, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I think we look to get solid at cheaper positions first, then look for a QB that fits us. Maybe that's as soon as 2012, but I don't think it makes sense for us to spend heavily on a QB in 2011.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 3:44 PM

Agreed. The funny thing is, some of today's bargain basement young QBs out there were yesterday's budget-busting "franchise" prospects:


Alex Smith, 26 years old, #1 overall in the draft

Jamarcus Russell, 25 years old, #1 overall in the draft

V Young, 27 years old, #3 overall in the draft

C Palmer, 31 years old, #1 overall in the draft.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Shanahan take a chance on one of the younger guys here.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

The other outstanding thing about Von Miller is the Run DMC-style (OK, just DMC) glasses.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Killing nine year old little girls? NOT F-ING COOL!

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 3:58 PM

Haven't really followed the story...but think she was like future president type of kid...very sad.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 24, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Raji almost got stripped of the ball before he got into the endzone. Remionded me of that Cowboy (who was it) that started celebrating at the 5, lost the ball on the one. I loved it!!!

Posted by: frediefritz | January 24, 2011 3:15 PM |

Dallas DE Leon Lett stripped by Buffalo WR Don Beebe, denying him a touchdown. 1993 Super Bowl.

Posted by: bones21 | January 24, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Douglas was the man at the Lou. he and Mario Urriutia(sp) had one of the best one twos in the country.

Posted by: Stu27 | January 24, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I hope you are there to look and comment first hand.

Posted by: rdusa33 | January 24, 2011 4:00 PM |

It wasn't J-Reid's post it was Rick Maese, had it been J-Reid you would have gotten his hate slant on the Skins.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 24, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Ala4, thanks for the links:

Here is the bit that I had not quite worked into my mental model about how this might play out (note: I did know that high scouted off highlight reels, but that still doesn't explain why his coordinators, or at least some position coaches, wouldn't be going down for the Senior Bowl). From Keim:

"... Here are some things to know about Shanahan's draft history: In his last nine drafts in Denver, Shanahan made a trade involving a first-round pick six times. He made no such trades in his first five drafts. Shanahan loves taking offensive linemen, defensive backs and receivers. In his 14 drafts with Denver, he selected 19 defensive backs, 18 receivers and 18 offensive linemen (five tackles). In fact, there was only one draft in which he did not pick a lineman. Shanahan's draft record in Denver is spotty at best. And he developed a reputation for picking players based mostly on potential. ..."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/nba/shanahan-known-take-risks-draft#ixzz1BzOUyGTo

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Dalton, Ponder, Locker
Von Miller
DeMarco Murray

Posted by: skinswest | January 24, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV

And I wouldn't worry about the Redskins taking Cam Newton. He isn't a Shanahan QB.


Who is?

Let's consider two types of quarterbacks:

a. tall, strong arm, slow-footed, accurate, classic

b. tall, big-frame, very athletic, great arm, decent accuracy, scrambling, non-classic type

Which is the 'Shanahan quarterback'?

That's selection 'b,' isn't it?

And we all know they are going to take a quarterback at 10--deal with it people.

Which means either Cam Newton or Jake Locker suddenly begins looking like redskins, and Ryan Mallett not so much, right?

And if your choice boils down to a guy who has a 1 year track record of a National Championship where he made big plays in the toughest conference versus another guy who's had 4 decent years on a bad team in an NFL-lite system, who do you pick?

Your head says Shanny will go with Locker.

But your heart wants a 6'5" tight end-sized Mike Vick with a gun for an arm and senses Shanny desires Newton, too.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 24, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Stu27 | January 24, 2011 4:10 PM

That's right, Harry Douglas. He was picked in the THIRD round ... after Donnie Avery, DEVIN THOMAS, Jordy Nelson, James Hardy, Eddie Royal, Jerome Simpson, DeSean Jackson, Malcolm Kelly, Limas Sweed, Dexter Jackson, Earl Bennett, and Early Doucet ...

Not stunning statistically (or roster-wise), but still stuck with a team longer than Devin Thomas did.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Dallas DE Leon Lett stripped by Buffalo WR Don Beebe, denying him a touchdown. 1993 Super Bowl.

Posted by: bones21 | January 24, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse
Thanks bones, I couldn't get his name. I laughed about that for days. That should be a tape that coaches show to all the rookies, and tell them to make sure it never happens to them.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 24, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Just saw this photo slide show posted. Been there, done that ... and will gladly do it again. So if you're out this way in the late spring ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/momentum-oregon-rafting/sets/72157623206498955/show/

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 4:35 PM | Report abuse

HMMMM, Kaepernick looks sharp!! And he can run like a scalded Vick..Me like..

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV

And I wouldn't worry about the Redskins taking Cam Newton. He isn't a Shanahan QB.


Who is?

Posted by: MistaMoe |

I've been wondering on that one. Campbell was dismissed and McNabb failed.

The QBs he seems to like? Grossman, who was more or less, Grossman (ggod, then bad, then good, then ...). Shanny seems to like our backup, Beck. He turns 30 before the 2011 season starts and his 62.0 career rating comes from the 109 passes he threw in 2007.

Exactly what does Shanahan want in a QB. At this point, I'm just puzzled ....

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

And we all know they are going to take a quarterback at 10--deal with it people.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 24, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Drafting a QB at #10 would be nothing if not ballsy. But it ain't gonna happen.

Can you imagine Snyder's reaction if Shanahan whiffs on that #10 pick, one year after spending a 2nd a 4th rounder at the same position? We might just see a Bingo caller making future draft picks.

That move also goes against Shanahan's draft hisory, as outlined by sween @ 4:14 PM.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Keim has written some very insightful articles on Shanahan's method of acquiring players. This John Keim article, written a few weeks, ago said it's normal for Shanahan to avoid Senior Bowl:

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse


It's also normal for him to avoid drafting QBs and develop them mid-career.

But that's not preventing Kiper from taking Cam Newton at #10 for us.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Locker's got a real strong arm for those 3rd down passes past the chains..Sometimes throws too hard (as per his athleticism)..

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

"Exactly what does Shanahan want in a QB. At this point, I'm just puzzled ....

Posted by: zcezcest1 "

A Boy Named Luck

But we need to seriously check out this Kaepernick...


Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

But that's not preventing Kiper from taking Cam Newton at #10 for us.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 4:44 PM

Yeah, and Kiper took Bradford (initially) and Clausen (finally) for us in his mocks last year.

He just KNEW we were getting a QB last year with that #4 pick.


Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

And I wouldn't worry about the Redskins taking Cam Newton. He isn't a Shanahan QB.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse


Oh, why?!

Because he's BLACK!?!?

Why do you ALWAYS have to make it about race, Red????

And speaking of John Wall; aren't you glad we didn't take that dud Evan Turner...can I please get a "you-told-me-so"?

http://www.examiner.com/nba-draft-in-national/76ers-rod-thorn-on-evan-turner-right-now-he-doesn-t-deserve-to-have-the-ball

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"Exactly what does Shanahan want in a QB. At this point, I'm just puzzled ....

Posted by: zcezcest1 "

A Boy Named Luck

Posted by: frak

We're going to need to seriously suck next season to pull that off. Which is to say ... we've got a shot.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Drafting a QB at #10 would be nothing if not ballsy. But it ain't gonna happen.

Can you imagine Snyder's reaction if Shanahan whiffs on that #10 pick, one year after spending a 2nd a 4th rounder at the same position? We might just see a Bingo caller making future draft picks.

That move also goes against Shanahan's draft hisory, as outlined by sween @ 4:14 PM.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 4:43 PM

Jay Cutler was chosen with the #11 pick.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 24, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep has been found. Turns out his name is Rick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVtEX1J7tXQ

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Exactly what does Shanahan want in a QB. At this point, I'm just puzzled ....

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 4:43 PM

He's quoted saying very positive things about Cutler. Besides, he drafted him so you know he likes him.

He also said, ""If we were able to get the top quarterback in the draft, if there was a young Donovan McNabb or maybe a Sam Bradford, something like that, there's a lot of possibilities."

So he likes Cutler, McNabb (the younger version), and Bradford. What to they all have in common?

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 4:57 PM | Report abuse

But that's not preventing Kiper from taking Cam Newton at #10 for us.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 4:44 PM

Kiper picking for the Skins is insurance that they WON'T pick him.

Clicking around this afternoon, I'm coming around to either of the top sounding OLBs (Von Miller or Aldon Smith), and then maybe the guy who looks to be only a second round prospect, but maybe the first free safety picked, Quinton Carter from Oklahoma. Some guys who would be great (Nick Fairley) won't be there at #10. Stephen Paea might be too high at #10, then top center, Mike Pouncey, looks to be off the board before the first round is over ... so I'm thinking this must be one of those draft board things. Plus free safety (for what USED TO BE one of the set roster groups, safeties) seems like it could go a long way to upgrading the D.

Unless Kareem Moore heals amazingly well and has a huge offseason and such and such. As the season wound down, safety did not seem like as deep as a roster group as I thought.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I'm fine with Shanny missing the Senior Bowl.

I hope he focuses more on coaching and less on the personnel side. Shanny the coach is, IMO, very very good. SHanny the GM is, IMO, very very sketchy.

Of course the Redskins Director of Player Personnel is Scott Campbell. He's been with the Skins for a while and was groomed in the organization under (*gulp*) Vinny Cerratto.

Prayerfully and hopefully, an Allen/Campbell combo can yield better overall draft results than the Cerratto/Campbell combo did.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Kaepernick is vellllly intellllesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Jay Cutler was chosen with the #11 pick.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 24, 2011 4:55 PM

Cutler was an outlier. When Cutler was drafted, the Broncos were coming off a 13-3 season and Plummer had just put up a 90+ QB rating for the year.

They really didn't need a new QB... in fact they didn't have any glaring needs after going 13-3. Cutler was a luxury pick at that point, and I beleive Shanahan thought he'd have time to develop him.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

So he likes Cutler, McNabb (the younger version), and Bradford. What to they all have in common?

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 4:57 PM

Ummm ... they all played QB in college?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I want to know more about Greg Jones from Michigan State (ILB), Ryan Kerrigan from Purdue (especially his athleticism and if its enough to play OLB/Rush LB), Cameron Jordan from UC (DLine), Casey Matthews from Oregon (ILB), Stephen Paea from Oregon State (and his potential as a Nose Guard/Tackle), Rodney Hudson from Florida State (OG), Derrick Locke from Kentucky (RB), Christian Ponder from Florida State (QB), Kristofer O'Dowd from USC (C), Kelvin Sheppard from LSU (ILB), and Phil Taylor from Baylor (NT).

Scouting reports please!!!

Posted by: pakimonster | January 24, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Clicking around this afternoon, I'm coming around to either of the top sounding OLBs (Von Miller or Aldon Smith), and then maybe the guy who looks to be only a second round prospect, but maybe the first free safety picked, Quinton Carter from Oklahoma. Some guys who would be great (Nick Fairley) won't be there at #10. Stephen Paea might be too high at #10, then top center, Mike Pouncey, looks to be off the board before the first round is over ... so I'm thinking this must be one of those draft board things. Plus free safety (for what USED TO BE one of the set roster groups, safeties) seems like it could go a long way to upgrading the D.

Unless Kareem Moore heals amazingly well and has a huge offseason and such and such. As the season wound down, safety did not seem like as deep as a roster group as I thought.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm good with taking a stud OLB with our first pick.

I think we need a NT to make this 3-4 thing work, first and foremost, but we also need a pass rush. Our secondary got lit up, and while most folks like to blame DeAngelo Hall for all the ills in the universe, the truth is that our pass rush SUCKED. Orakpo took a step back in sack totals and ALbert Hayensworth - that's right Albert Frickin Haynesworth - led our Dlinemen in sacks. No pressure from the front 7, no way your secondary holds up.

I'm not as bullish on a free safety right now. With Landry healthy I think he can mask tackling weaknesses at FS by getting to the ball carrier first. I still think Kevin Barnes could make a move to FS.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 4:56 PM

Dude is way too young to be beep beep

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 24, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Kaepernick is vellllly intellllesting...

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 5:01 PM

The knock against him is that he's skinny and, according to the bloggerati up here, will break bones too often ... because, you know, skinny people break like twigs ... and how muscle mass can't be added and such and such.

To me, I see tall (6'6"), fast, and accurate. I can't recall a famous skinny quarterback in history, but before Jay Ratliff, I didn't know about tall, light, long armed NTs either.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Kerrigan looked fast and strong, paki..No crowbar attacks reported..

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins needs list is so long they should draft the BPA regardless of position at 10 if they stay there.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 24, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

A couple years ago KC took Tyson Jackson high (3rd overall I think) because he was a 3-4 DE because there's a premium on those guys. Among the many things the skins need are 3-4 DE's. That's why I think (this week anyway) the pick will be JJ Watt DE Wisconsin. I'd be fine with any spot on the defensive front 7 though.

Posted by: skinswest | January 24, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I want to know more about Greg Jones from Michigan State (ILB), ...

Posted by: pakimonster | January 24, 2011 5:03 PM

As a MSU alum, I can report with confidence that Michigan State produces solid kickers and punters. At other positions, there is usually high performance, outstanding durability, but a high risk of thuggishness. The pinnacle of MSU players that tops all three categories is Plaxico Burress. [I'm not taking ownership of the Devin Thomas situation ... he want to JuCo for two years, transferred to State, then left as a junior. Vinny Cerrato special.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 4:56 PM

Dude is way too young to be beep beep

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 24, 2011 5:14 PM

And considerably more interesting and amusing.

Question: what was the deal with Hedo Rick's gut? Was that a caesarian scar or what?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse

As a MSU alum, I can report with confidence that Michigan State produces solid kickers and punters. At other positions, there is usually high performance, outstanding durability, but a high risk of thuggishness. The pinnacle of MSU players that tops all three categories is Plaxico Burress.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 5:23 PM

Even moreso than Charles Rogers?

Posted by: skinswest | January 24, 2011 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Question: what was the deal with Hedo Rick's gut? Was that a caesarian scar or what?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 5:26 PM

Ripping and the tearing?

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the ripping and tearing thing skeeved me out too.

Charles Rogers is a special case, mostly scoring high in the thuggishness category (though drugs and booze aren't quite the angry crimes that typify the State alumni profile). Also, Rogers scored poorly in the durability category. Could have been a contender though ...

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Kaepernick

6-6

225

Thats not Skinny and he could add another 10-15 pounds to that frame without loosing any speed.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 24, 2011 5:43 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins needs list is so long they should draft the BPA regardless of position at 10 if they stay there.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 24, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse


Agree. I was saying the same thing the other day.

We've got about a dozen starting positions to fill, so that simplifies our draft in that we can take the best "whatever" is available at 10, and not worry about trading up.

Though if we can trade down, I'd do that.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Seriously ... Cutler for McNabb ... will include ham sandwich and Roydell Williams.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 5:51 PM | Report abuse

We've got about a dozen starting positions to fill, so that simplifies our draft in that we can take the best "whatever" is available at 10, and not worry about trading up.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 5:46 PM

Is there a tight end worthy of a #10 pick?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Kaepernick actually looks wiry AND thick-strong...I bet if you dipped him , he'd have a real high muscle mass ratio..He ain't no twig-

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=66869&draftyear=2011&genpos=qb

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Albert Frickin Haynesworth - led our Dlinemen in sacks.

Posted by: p1funk

Just when I was about to go an entire day without crying ... and you bring this up.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Kaepernick is vellllly intellllesting...

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 5:01 PM

The knock against him is that he's skinny and, according to the bloggerati up here, will break bones too often ... because, you know, skinny people break like twigs ... and how muscle mass can't be added and such and such.

To me, I see tall (6'6"), fast, and accurate. I can't recall a famous skinny quarterback in history, but before Jay Ratliff, I didn't know about tall, light, long armed NTs either.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 5:16 PM |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the kid is the real deal... saw him play twice in person this season... my only question is can he take a snap under center... 95% of his snaps game from the pistol formation...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | January 24, 2011 6:38 PM | Report abuse

I want to know more about Greg Jones from Michigan State (ILB), Ryan Kerrigan from Purdue (especially his athleticism and if its enough to play OLB/Rush LB), Cameron Jordan from UC (DLine), Casey Matthews from Oregon (ILB), Stephen Paea from Oregon State (and his potential as a Nose Guard/Tackle), Rodney Hudson from Florida State (OG), Derrick Locke from Kentucky (RB), Christian Ponder from Florida State (QB), Kristofer O'Dowd from USC (C), Kelvin Sheppard from LSU (ILB), and Phil Taylor from Baylor (NT).

Scouting reports please!!!

Posted by: pakimonster | January 24, 2011 5:03 PM |

The only one I can tell you about is Kerrigan (I'm a Purdue fan.) The guy looked unblockable most of the time and is freaky athletic. Most scouts see him a s an OLB in the big league.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 6:38 PM | Report abuse

In honor of the gaudy spectacle "Spartacus: Gods the Arena” that just kicked off I offer the following salutation: "I am Farticus!"

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 24, 2011 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Purdue fan. ...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 6:38 PM |

You're also by far the biggest dick on this blog.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 24, 2011 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Purdue fan. ...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 6:38 PM |

You're also by far the biggest dick on this blog.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 24, 2011 6:55 PM

Thanks!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm looking forward to an interesting offseason.

The draft, free agency and drama.

Awesome!

What are we gonna do about QB?

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

You're also by far the biggest dick on this blog.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 24, 2011 6:55 PM | Report abuse

sock-that is puppet dont think so...

Posted by: skinswillwin | January 24, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

So many look to be on the market.

McNabb, Palmer, Young, Alex Smith etc.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 7:06 PM | Report abuse

What could be better than being a FA signed by the Redskins?

Finding out you're the sister of Oprah Winfrey.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 7:08 PM | Report abuse

A quick look at day one of practices at Senior Bowl.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog?name=nfl_draft&id=6054668

excerpt

QB review All the QBs were a little bit fired up and you could see the adrenaline in their throws. If you talked to all three, they would say they had more juice than normal and, as in every all-star game every year, first practice there are timing issues, but figuring out routes with WRs and how coaches want routes run. Overall, they were erratic. Expect them to be more consistent with their accuracy as each day goes on.

Watch the hitch
Nevada Colin Kaepernick had fewer glaring misses than the other QBs today. He showed adequate arm strength and really good touch on throws that required touch. He just throws a nice catchable ball. But the biggest thing watching him live, he's trying to hide the fact he has a long delivery. It's like he has a hitch in his throwing motion and it takes too long and it's something that defenders can really pick up on. It's tough to just break a habit and that's something he's going to have to really fight. We knew he had it, but seeing it live it's a little more concerning.

Eyes on a Hawkeye
Iowa's Ricky Stanzi did a pretty good job today. He's clearly the second-best QB for the North team. Not a great athlete, but he had good footwork and very good touch and timing as a passer for the most part today. He threw best vertical sideline route of day during 7-on-7s. His arm strength didn't jump out either way. Doesn't have rifle but he passed the test from that standpoint today. When he missed, he missed high and it tended to be on throws between the numbers. He was missing high on curls and in routes and that's something to keep an eye on this week.

Checking in on Locker
Jake Locker was a little bit of a microcosm of his career. He made some unbelievable throws, like one fade route in pack of end zone. Perfect timing, perfect touch and dropped it right in. He nailed a couple skinny posts where he led receiver and put it in perfect spot for yards after catch. And maybe his best throw of the day was a sideline comeback route where he just drilled it with perfect timing. But he can't bottle it up and do it consistently. He had a handful throws that he made one time, but didn't do it the next time. It's that inconsistency that is frustrating. If it was just today and saw something on film, you put it to Day 1. But if this continues the pattern, it's not going be the week he needed it to be. Still, he did not have a bad day. In fact, he had the best day of the QBs here and there is no doubt who is the most naturally talented QB here.

Posted by: TWISI | January 24, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I think we take cam because he's the only qb that can avoid the pressure our weak o line will allow...

Just a thought

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 24, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I think we take cam because he's the only qb that can avoid the pressure our weak o line will allow...

Just a thought

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 24, 2011 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I think we take cam because he's the only qb that can avoid the pressure our weak o line will allow...

Just a thought

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 24, 2011 7:18 PM |

Why would you think that we would go into next season with the same o-line?

The games don't start tomorrow the o-line will be much improved next season.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 24, 2011 7:28 PM | Report abuse


I have a two step process deciding who I want to be future Redskins.

1. Find out who Vinny Cerrato likes.

2. Pick somebody else.

Posted by: TheCork | January 24, 2011 7:30 PM | Report abuse

I thought the haters should know that DeAngelo Hall received 2 votes in the All-Pro selections.

Always the Redskins fan phonies who hate on their most productive!

Posted by: pabrian2008 | January 24, 2011 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Here's a sleeper kids.

Redskins will need a fullback sooner rather than later

Fullbacks are undervalued come draft day

With luck this guy will be available with fifth round pick.

I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Henry Hynoski, Pitt. 6'2" 260. He's a truck who can run.

Posted by: TheCork | January 24, 2011 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Here's a sleeper kids.

Redskins will need a fullback sooner rather than later

Fullbacks are undervalued come draft day

With luck this guy will be available with fifth round pick.

I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Henry Hynoski, Pitt. 6'2" 260. He's a truck who can run.

Posted by: TheCork | January 24, 2011 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Darryl Young

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 7:48 PM | Report abuse

I have a two step process deciding who I want to be future Redskins.

1. Find out who Vinny Cerrato likes.

2. Pick somebody else.

Posted by: TheCork | January 24, 2011 7:30 PM |

Dude - that's why Bruce Allen has Vinny's former butt boy, Scott Campbell, in tow at the Senior Moment Bowl:

Instead, General Manager Bruce Allen, Scott Campbell, the team's director of player personnel, and several scouts will be attending practices and studying the prospects up-close.

He's, ummm, "two steps" ahead of you!

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 24, 2011 7:49 PM | Report abuse

He's, ummm, "two steps" ahead of you!

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 24, 2011 7:49 PM |

BTW, that's why they call it the "Senior Moment" bowl!

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 24, 2011 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Will Newton outplay Campbell?


Take a look at the photo of each player on the Redskins' Sports Page.

You see why folks are more than just a lil worried about drafting Cam Newton.

Newton and Campbell are pictured and both are holding on to the ball ever so wrong.

Campbell's holding the ball way too far away from his body (elongated delivery), and with Newton, it's over his head.

Makes you wonder if the good people at Auburn University teach passing fundamentals: you want the ball close to the body, tight delivery with the body angled somewhat low so the ball doesn't 'sail' away from the receiver.

The way each player is holding the ball makes it ripe for a 'strip' fumble.

And if some so simple and basic as that is on display in the photo, you wonder what else Newton doesn't know.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Diesel- I have a sunshine crush on Ponder.

I will be super happy if we draft him in round 2.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 8:40 PM | Report abuse

you wonder what else Newton doesn't know.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 8:33 PM | Report abuse

The amount of money Auburn gave his dad.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Diesel- I have a sunshine crush on Ponder.

I will be super happy if we draft him in round 2.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 8:40 PM |

He looked pretty awful in his bowl game.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Diesel- I have a sunshine crush on Ponder.

I will be super happy if we draft him in round 2.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 8:40 PM |

He looked pretty awful in his bowl game.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 8:49 PM | Report abuse

We all have bad days. As long as you remember a sunny day is always on the horizon.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I have a sunshine crush on Ponder.

I don't.

I was curious about Ponder right up until I realized that every time I went to watch an FSU game, he was hurt or recovering from being hurt.

And when you have a developing line we do, you want a guy with a frame big enough or athletic enough to take the hits or mobile enough to avoid them.

And this final point is why we come right back to debating Newton/Locker.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I have a sunshine crush on Ponder.

I don't.

I was curious about Ponder right up until I realized that every time I went to watch an FSU game, he was hurt or recovering from being hurt.

And when you have a developing line we do, you want a guy with a frame big enough or athletic enough to take the hits or mobile enough to avoid them.

And this final point is why we come right back to debating Newton/Locker.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Well Moe, Ponder is coming from the Sunshine state and that's right up my alley.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 9:00 PM | Report abuse

iH8dallas

The amount of money Auburn gave his (Newton's) dad.


Given the big paydays from the SEC, bowl loot, jersey sales, and tv revenue, I'd say Cam's dad got had.

And I'm wondering how the NCAA will strip the kid of his Heisman for taking small change, but still reap profits from using his likeness in EA Sports NCAA College football video games.


Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Given the big paydays from the SEC, bowl loot, jersey sales, and tv revenue, I'd say Cam's dad got had.

And I'm wondering how the NCAA will strip the kid of his Heisman for taking small change, but still reap profits from using his likeness in EA Sports NCAA College football video games.


Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm boycotting NCAA football until there is a playoff system.

Dirtiest business in America.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Is it possible for the Skins to get a rental out of Kyle Orton? Who are the other FA options? Just Alex Smith and Vince Young, maybe Gradkowski? Its so depressing to think about only Grossman with no upgrades in the WR corps. I used to try to pimp James Jones, but in a couple of weeks he's going to have a Supa Bo under his belt. Maybe we need an RB to make next year interesting ... someone to platoon with Torain. Can Keiland Williams catch?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, on the Shhhhhhh front:

1. The Skins ♥ lil Shanny

2. The Jets ♥ lil Shotty

3. No one ♥ lil Shibby

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 24, 2011 9:10 PM | Report abuse

I know this might not be popular but i think the skins take a d lineman with the first pick. If and when there is a free agency period i think alot of the holes can be patched during free agency. They can follow the same strategy that the packers used when picking Raji and Matthews. What do you guys think?

Posted by: wattsicon | January 24, 2011 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm boycotting NCAA football until ... well, until the inevitable "no CBA" year when its either NCAA football or, um, having to spend time with my kids?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Is it possible for the Skins to get a rental out of Kyle Orton? Who are the other FA options? Just Alex Smith and Vince Young, maybe Gradkowski? Its so depressing to think about only Grossman with no upgrades in the WR corps. I used to try to pimp James Jones, but in a couple of weeks he's going to have a Supa Bo under his belt. Maybe we need an RB to make next year interesting ... someone to platoon with Torain. Can Keiland Williams catch?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Carson Palmer is supposedly going to be traded, and Keiland Williams can catch.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 24, 2011 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Is it possible for the Skins to get a rental out of Kyle Orton? Who are the other FA options? Just Alex Smith and Vince Young, maybe Gradkowski? Its so depressing to think about only Grossman with no upgrades in the WR corps. I used to try to pimp James Jones, but in a couple of weeks he's going to have a Supa Bo under his belt. Maybe we need an RB to make next year interesting ... someone to platoon with Torain. Can Keiland Williams catch?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 9:10 PM | Report abuse
KW had played a lot of 3rd down back, had 39 receptions, averaging 7.9 yd at catch.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 24, 2011 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Watsicon, that's pretty much the consensus ... drafting for some serious upgrading on the DL and LB roster group, pretty much waht Green Bay did when they switched to 3-4.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Out of all the available FA QB's I'd take Orton first, Palmer second.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Watsicon, that's pretty much the consensus ... drafting for some serious upgrading on the DL and LB roster group, pretty much waht Green Bay did when they switched to 3-4.

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 9:20 PM | Report abuse

A lot of people think MS will draft a QB at #10. But a lot of blogers hope they go D front 7 with #10, take a QB later in draft.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 24, 2011 9:23 PM | Report abuse

The Day's Best Headline:

Man Sues Escort Service Over Sex Act


Apparently, the sex actress took his money, and told him to talk to his hand if he wanted a truly gripping performance.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Did I imagine things or did the Broncos start out strong? I remember thinking that Orton was OK. (I kind of tried to block out the whole Brandon Lloyd having a good season thing).

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Did I imagine things or did the Broncos start out strong? I remember thinking that Orton was OK. (I kind of tried to block out the whole Brandon Lloyd having a good season thing).

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 9:36 PM | Report abuse

just a quick take on the offseason from my perspective, expecting people like Albert, McNabb and Carter to be gone.

These may adjust depending on who stays, especially among J Brown, S Moss, C Rogers, Rocky.

QB is a bit down the list because, more than any other spot, its where you look at the supply more than the need. The supply doesn't appear to be worth getting into a bidding war over.

OL -- urgent
DL -- urgent
WR -- high priority
LB -- high priority
QB -- mid priority
DB -- mid priority
P -- mid priority
RB -- low priority
TE -- low priority
K -- low priority
ST -- low priority

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 9:43 PM | Report abuse

So my solution to the LB question would be to draft Kerrigan and move the One Man Gang inside. Riley as a backup and good bye to Rocky Mac (unless it's a lightweight money deal.)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 9:54 PM | Report abuse

This here article says that a Redskin scout made a "beeline" for Jake Locker to set up a meeting after the senior bowl practice:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/Senior-Bowl-Blog.php

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I would like to know more about Rodney Hudon, OG, FSU...

Actually, I know a lot about him...he would be a great pick for us in the 2nd round if he is still around.

Posted by: jcard14 | January 24, 2011 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I would like to know more about Rodney Hudon, OG, FSU...

Actually, I know a lot about him...he would be a great pick for us in the 2nd round if he is still around.

Posted by: jcard14 | January 24, 2011 10:23 PM

I would prefer John Moffitt from Wisconsin.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't the Skins coaches going to the Senior Bowl?

Posted by: dcsween | January 24, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

To prove he is not as much of a control freak as every one makes him out to be. Makes a lot of sense to send scouts that can bring info and film to discuss.

Posted by: rodskin | January 24, 2011 10:47 PM | Report abuse

And we all know they are going to take a quarterback at 10--deal with it people.

Which means either Cam Newton or Jake Locker suddenly begins looking like redskins

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 24, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Moe, I'd love to put a friendly wager that we do NOT take either of these guys- or a QB in general, for that matter- with the 10th pick. If you want to, hit me up and I'll send you my email addy.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 24, 2011 10:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm still thinking we take the best available defender. I'm leaning towards Von Miller if he's still on the board at #10

HTTR

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 24, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm still thinking we take the best available defender. I'm leaning towards Von Miller if he's still on the board at #10

HTTR

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 24, 2011 11:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking pretty strongly there will be an extended lock-out and no draft.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 24, 2011 11:13 PM | Report abuse

A better athlete with the same bulk and improved conditioning.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 24, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Well....yes of course...but what does that have to do with pick 6's/better hands? These 300+ lb guys aren't working on passing drills. Raji is a phenomenal talent and he made a great play...but most DT's don't catch that ball 2 out of 5 times.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 24, 2011 11:14 PM | Report abuse

"Carson Palmer is supposedly going to be traded, and Keiland Williams can catch.

Posted by: iH8dallas"

Palmer's exit might deplete the QB pool to the point that Locker and Newton are both gone by 10..

LUCK is the perfect Shanny QB, but how does management plan to stopgap for 2011??

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Mark Herzlich LB, was a beast before cancer.
Colin Kaepernick QB, Big QB with some talent
DeMarco Murray RB, OU back are always talented.
Both Boise State WR Pettis and Young. Where they just products of the system or something more?

Allen Bailey DE Miami

Posted by: dcinmd1 | January 24, 2011 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Mark Herzlich LB, was a beast before cancer.
Colin Kaepernick QB, Big QB with some talent
DeMarco Murray RB, OU back are always talented.
Both Boise State WR Pettis and Young. Where they just products of the system or something more?

Allen Bailey DE Miami
Noel Divine RB, might be the next Darren Sproles.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | January 24, 2011 11:42 PM | Report abuse

LUCK is the perfect Shanny QB, but how does management plan to stopgap for 2011??


Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 11:34 PM |

Only problem there is you'll have to have the worst team in the NFL next year to get him. The rookie wage scale will prevent cheap teams from balking at the initial pricetag and the first picker will stay there to get him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Maese hit it on the head...I'm hoping the Skins use the 10th pick on Locker and 41st on NT Phil Taylor. If they can trade Cooley for a 2nd rounder, then they could possibly get C - Mike Pouncey or C - Rodney Hudson to anchor the middle of the offensive line. That would be a great draft for rounds 1 and 2.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 24, 2011 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't the Skins coaches going to the Senior Bowl?
Posted by: dcsween

To prove he is not as much of a control freak as every one makes him out to be. Makes a lot of sense to send scouts that can bring info and film to discuss.

Posted by: rodskin

I'm wondering what is more important than going down to the game where 100 or so college players are. I mean, you can always watch tape, but don't you want to get to know guys, get a feel for their attitudes, etc. It's not only about figuring out who to get at #10. Its about the second and 3rd tier guys, also

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Scam , you're not related to the player personnel dude, are you?? Death by...

Nah, lokk at the price the Giants paid for Eli, I think it'll be a similar price...(lokk=freudian slip meaning "lockout"..or "Locker")


Union prez talkin' hard today, saying negotiations will "be a war"..Commish tried to brush it off like he does his golden retriever...

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 11:56 PM | Report abuse

"I'm wondering what is more important than going down to the game where 100 or so college players are. I mean, you can always watch tape, but don't you want to get to know guys, get a feel for their attitudes, etc. It's not only about figuring out who to get at #10. Its about the second and 3rd tier guys, also

Posted by: zcezcest1 "

Methinks maybe the FO is already set in their strategy, hmm?? And that reeks of Locker..

Posted by: frak | January 25, 2011 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Skins can find a WR via free agency. Sidney Rice (25), Santonio Holmes (27) and Vincent Jackson (28) are available

I think the starters next year could be Rice #1 and Malcolm Kelly #2. Moss had his chance for 6 yrs. It's over. Armstrong is a #3 receiver. Terrence Austin is good enough as a #4.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 25, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Scam , you're not related to the player personnel dude, are you?? Death by...

Nah, lokk at the price the Giants paid for Eli, I think it'll be a similar price...(lokk=freudian slip meaning "lockout"..or "Locker")

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 11:56 PM

Nope not related. I think the price would be much more than was paid for Elly. Someone will have to give up the farm...think more like Ricky Williams.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 25, 2011 12:04 AM | Report abuse

think the starters next year could be Rice #1 and Malcolm Kelly #2. Moss had his chance for 6 yrs. It's over. Armstrong is a #3 receiver. Terrence Austin is good enough as a #4.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 25, 2011 12:02 AM

Malcolm Kelly #2 huh? Presuming an awful lot aren't you?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 25, 2011 12:11 AM | Report abuse

This here article says that a Redskin scout made a "beeline" for Jake Locker to set up a meeting after the senior bowl practice:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/Senior-Bowl-Blog.php

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 10:06 PM

The pick at #10 will be Locker if he's there. They won't even try to trade down and possibly miss out on him. Shanny spent a year studying this guy and Bradford, and was willing to draft either of them last year. Irregardless of how Locker performed this past season, Shanny will think he can coach him up.

BTW, my pick at #10 would be

1. Von Miller
2. Robert Quinn
3. Kerrigan

I'd get the qb in the second round.

Posted by: TWISI | January 25, 2011 12:16 AM | Report abuse

"I think the starters next year could be Rice #1 and Malcolm Kelly #2. Moss had his chance for 6 yrs. It's over. Armstrong is a #3 receiver. Terrence Austin is good enough as a #4.

Posted by: tramellcanady"

Man, you funny..Santana just had one of his best years and Malcolm Kelly's bionic knee hasn't left the Air Force Experimental Lab..

And on a serious note, I'd like to say that there is something wrong with Jay Cutler- dude is either stoned or depressed, but he always seems distant, out of focus...That's why he catches so much flak...He either needs therapy or another bong hit...just sayin'..

Posted by: frak | January 25, 2011 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Man, you funny..Santana just had one of his best years and Malcolm Kelly's bionic knee hasn't left the Air Force Experimental Lab..

And on a serious note, I'd like to say that there is something wrong with Jay Cutler- dude is either stoned or depressed, but he always seems distant, out of focus...That's why he catches so much flak...He either needs therapy or another bong hit...just sayin'..


Posted by: frak | January 25, 2011 12:30 AM |

We are actually in complete agreement on all fronts here. Not too many people are gonna pony up big bucks for Santana and he killed it this year in lil Shanny's system. He can only get better with another good reciever and a better QB.

Also, there was some sort of little blurb about J. Cut on this past weekend talking about how arrogant and disrespectful he is. I call it d0uchy.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 25, 2011 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Skins can find a WR via free agency. Sidney Rice (25), Santonio Holmes (27) and Vincent Jackson (28) are available

I think the starters next year could be Rice #1 and Malcolm Kelly #2. Moss had his chance for 6 yrs. It's over. Armstrong is a #3 receiver. Terrence Austin is good enough as a #4.

Posted by: tramellcanady

Gotta say, this seems like a pipe dream. Which of those guys are going to come here if Rex Grossman is the QB? Plus, Shanny's disrespectful treatment of McNabb isn't going to make top tier players want to come here.

I see lots of reasons for players to hesitate about signing with this team in free agency.

As for Moss, he had strong totals (though some pretty big drops were mixed in there). I can't see a lot of teams interested in him. Mostly because he's turns 32 before next season starts and you don't pony up big $$ for a 32 year old WR. He did well with Grossman at QB -- 22 catches for 231 and 2 TDs in last 3 games. At least we have that going for us.

Some teams will look at him as a 2nd or 3rd guy. Perhaps teams like DET, StL and SF will look his way.

The team I think might make a serious run at Santana is ATL. It fits for a lot of reasons. I'd think Moss would like the idea of going to a 13 win team (with a talented QB) that is on the rise -- and not having to draw the top defenders/double coverage. I think ATL would love a dangerous player across from Roddy White. And ATL mgmt would probably like the relatively inexpensive price tag compared to the 27 year old WRs out there.

If I'm Santana, that's the place I'm exploring first. If VJax leaves SD, I'm thinking he'll want to take a look out there.

He'll likely have a choice about playing for a contender or playing for a rebuilding team, with a good chance that his QB will be Rex Grossman.

So Rex or Rivers or Matty-Ice?

That doesn't seem like a close call.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 25, 2011 2:09 AM | Report abuse

I think Jake Locker is going to be an excellent NFL QB despite his senior season and we should draft him first round. I think he is the best NFL QB this year honestly with Luck not coming out.

If we don't go that route, Carson Palmer is saying he wants a trade or he'll retire. Mcnabb for Palmer would benefit both teams. I don't love Palmer but he is better than Grossman to be sure.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | January 25, 2011 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Union prez talkin' hard today, saying negotiations will "be a war"..Commish tried to brush it off like he does his golden retriever...

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 11:56 PM
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I think DeMaurice Smith is out to make a name for himself and isn't necessarily looking out for the good of the players. The problem with this whole CBA is there are a lot of strong personalities at work here. I think it will ultimately end up in arbitration and before we get there we will probably see a lot of shenanigans like lockouts, union decertifications, etc.

What's sad is none of these entities: the players, the owners or the union reps ever mention the good of the fans. If there really was some concern about the fans, maybe they would let them have a hand in the negotiations. Maybe we should have a fans union to negotiate on our behalf...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 25, 2011 2:59 AM | Report abuse

And on a serious note, I'd like to say that there is something wrong with Jay Cutler- dude is either stoned or depressed, but he always seems distant, out of focus...That's why he catches so much flak...He either needs therapy or another bong hit...just sayin'..

Posted by: frak | January 25, 2011 12:30 AM |

We are actually in complete agreement on all fronts here. Not too many people are gonna pony up big bucks for Santana and he killed it this year in lil Shanny's system. He can only get better with another good reciever and a better QB.

Also, there was some sort of little blurb about J. Cut on this past weekend talking about how arrogant and disrespectful he is. I call it d0uchy.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 25, 2011 12:34 AM
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Didn't Chicago help create that monster? I remember hearing at one point he was interviewing the offensive coordinator candidates... What GM in his right mind would let players help decide who the coaches are going to be? Totally undermines any authority the coach has...

As for Cutler's kind of detached attitude, some of that might be related to his diabetes. If he's not managing it properly it could be a problem, and even if he is, stress can create more problems.

Of course, the illness doesn't make him a butthead. It seems that is all on Jay Cutler, but I wonder how a guy comes out of college with such high marks on attitude and work ethic, and then becomes the detached, whiny player we hear about today. I totally understand why he wanted out of Denver. I think the recent changes in Denver point directly to a toxic environment. I just wonder if Chicago is any better. Cutler is a man and therefore accountable for his actions, but can't help but think there is more than a little dysfunction in that organization as well.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 25, 2011 3:13 AM | Report abuse

Why aren't the Skins coaches going to the Senior Bowl?
Posted by: dcsween

To prove he is not as much of a control freak as every one makes him out to be. Makes a lot of sense to send scouts that can bring info and film to discuss.

Posted by: rodskin

I'm wondering what is more important than going down to the game where 100 or so college players are. I mean, you can always watch tape, but don't you want to get to know guys, get a feel for their attitudes, etc. It's not only about figuring out who to get at #10. Its about the second and 3rd tier guys, also

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 11:49 PM
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Maybe the thinking is the team won't be getting many picks of guys playing in the senior bowl. Maybe the draft strategy, written in indelible ink on the back of a napkin somewhere, is to trade down, trade down some more and then trade down one last time so the team ends up with a lot of late round picks. Given the Redskins dearth of talent on so many fronts, maybe this is the draft where they go for quantity of picks and not elite talent.

Or, maybe Shanahan has just decided to trust his scouts and talent evaluators...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 25, 2011 4:27 AM | Report abuse

Why aren't the Skins coaches going to the Senior Bowl?
Posted by: dcsween

To prove he is not as much of a control freak as every one makes him out to be. Makes a lot of sense to send scouts that can bring info and film to discuss.

Posted by: rodskin

I'm wondering what is more important than going down to the game where 100 or so college players are. I mean, you can always watch tape, but don't you want to get to know guys, get a feel for their attitudes, etc. It's not only about figuring out who to get at #10. Its about the second and 3rd tier guys, also

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 24, 2011 11:49 PM
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Maybe the thinking is the team won't be getting many picks of guys playing in the senior bowl. Maybe the draft strategy, written in indelible ink on the back of a napkin somewhere, is to trade down, trade down some more and then trade down one last time so the team ends up with a lot of late round picks. Given the Redskins dearth of talent on so many fronts, maybe this is the draft where they go for quantity of picks and not elite talent.

Or, maybe Shanahan has just decided to trust his scouts and talent evaluators...

Posted by: RedSkinHead

How many guys go to the Senior Bowl? Maybe 100 or so. Most of these guys will attempt to go pro. That is just over 3 full rounds in the draft. Plus, with 56 underclassmen, its very probable that there are a bunch of 4th-6th round picks prepping for this game.

Seems like you'd want to cover as much ground as possible. Even if you trust your scouts, there are still 100 players to watch and talk with -- plus any coaches, scouts, trainers, etc.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 25, 2011 4:43 AM | Report abuse

zcezcest1,
Not defending Shanahan here, but I think there are many things going on right now that demand attention of a head coach. He and his assistants are probably still studying all of the game tapes from the NFL identifying free agents they want, players on their own roster they want to keep/dump, and all that goes with moves inside the NFL. I think a lot of coaches give the senior bowl a miss. The scouts are in charge at that point. Coaches will get a chance to talk to players once the scouting organization has narrowed the list.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 25, 2011 5:06 AM | Report abuse

I'm hoping the Skins use the 10th pick on Locker and 41st on NT Phil Taylor. If they can trade Cooley for a 2nd rounder, then they could possibly get C - Mike Pouncey or C - Rodney Hudson to anchor the middle of the offensive line. That would be a great draft for rounds 1 and 2.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 24, 2011 11:44 PM

Skins can find a WR via free agency. Sidney Rice (25), Santonio Holmes (27) and Vincent Jackson (28) are available

I think the starters next year could be Rice #1 and Malcolm Kelly #2. Moss had his chance for 6 yrs. It's over. Armstrong is a #3 receiver. Terrence Austin is good enough as a #4.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 25, 2011 12:02 AM

Cocaine is a helluva drug...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 5:47 AM | Report abuse


I think the starters next year could be Rice #1 and Malcolm Kelly #2. Moss had his chance for 6 yrs. It's over. Armstrong is a #3 receiver. Terrence Austin is good enough as a #4.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 25, 2011 12:02 AM


Cocaine is a helluva drug...
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MK12 won't be on the opening day roster as far as his past injury history would indicate. this team needs to draft d-line early and o-line in lower rounds.

Posted by: hessone | January 25, 2011 6:34 AM | Report abuse

It's easy to make this D better, just draft lb's like the Steelers have and wha-la... (being sarcastic about the easy part gang)

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 25, 2011 6:55 AM | Report abuse

I know we're almost a year removed from all the talk surrounding our roster at one time being the oldest in the league, but just to reinforce the point that "age ain't nothin' but a number", here's a little factoid from John Clayton's SB column:

"In 1971, the Washington Redskins and head coach George Allen assembled a group known as "The Over-the-Hill Gang." Many of the players were older veterans Allen brought over from the Los Angeles Rams. The average age of that defense -- in terms of starters -- was 28.7. Well, this Steelers defense is actually older. The average age of the Steelers' starters is 29.55. There are six starters in their 30s and two who are 29. The Steelers' defense shows no sign of slowing down. The unit had one of its best seasons for stopping the run and one of its best seasons tackling."

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 6:58 AM | Report abuse

I really hope Shan doesn't screw sht up even more by drafting Locker. This kid is going to suck.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/24/senior.bowl.monday/

Posted by: jm220 | January 25, 2011 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Jay Cutler was chosen with the #11 pick.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 24, 2011 4:55 PM

Cutler was an outlier. When Cutler was drafted, the Broncos were coming off a 13-3 season and Plummer had just put up a 90+ QB rating for the year.

They really didn't need a new QB... in fact they didn't have any glaring needs after going 13-3. Cutler was a luxury pick at that point, and I beleive Shanahan thought he'd have time to develop him.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 5:01 PM

Come on, Alan. First you say Shanahan would never take a QB at #10. Then you say he only took Cutler at #11 because he was "an outlier" and Shanahan didn't really need a QB. So, now that he does need a QB, he won't take one? If he doesn't take a QB at #10 it's only because he doesn't think anyone available is good enough or because he's looking later in the draft -- not because of his "draft history."

At least you responded to my post. You did better than the Three Stooges -- Diesel44, learnedhand1, and dcsween -- who could muster nothing more than some gratuitous drive-by girlie-slaps. I'm guessing they just felt the urge to be ugly.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 25, 2011 7:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm hoping the Skins use the 10th pick on Locker and 41st on NT Phil Taylor. If they can trade Cooley for a 2nd rounder, then they could possibly get C - Mike Pouncey or C - Rodney Hudson to anchor the middle of the offensive line. That would be a great draft for rounds 1 and 2.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 24, 2011 11:44 PM

Skins can find a WR via free agency. Sidney Rice (25), Santonio Holmes (27) and Vincent Jackson (28) are available

I think the starters next year could be Rice #1 and Malcolm Kelly #2. Moss had his chance for 6 yrs. It's over. Armstrong is a #3 receiver. Terrence Austin is good enough as a #4.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 25, 2011 12:02 AM


Cocaine is a helluva drug...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 5:47 AM | Report abuse

Either that or the punch!!!!!!

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 25, 2011 8:07 AM | Report abuse

I really hope Shan doesn't screw sht up even more by drafting Locker. This kid is going to suck.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/24/senior.bowl.monday/

Posted by: jm220 | January 25, 2011 7:33 AM |

Jm,

Accuracy can be tought so can reading defenses, what can't be tought is a big time arm and speed. Locker has the arm and speed.

I'm not saying I hope they draft him at 10 but if they do I have to trust that Shanny knows QB's.

There are no perfect QB's coming out of college ever they all have flaws you just have to make sure that the flaw is fixible. The one thing I do like about the kid is even though he played on a crappy team I never heard him complain about it or throw his teamates under the bus.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 25, 2011 8:15 AM | Report abuse

This here article says that a Redskin scout made a "beeline" for Jake Locker to set up a meeting after the senior bowl practice:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/Senior-Bowl-Blog.php

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 10:06 PM

The pick at #10 will be Locker if he's there. They won't even try to trade down and possibly miss out on him. Shanny spent a year studying this guy and Bradford, and was willing to draft either of them last year. Irregardless of how Locker performed this past season, Shanny will think he can coach him up.

BTW, my pick at #10 would be

1. Von Miller
2. Robert Quinn
3. Kerrigan

I'd get the qb in the second round.

Posted by: TWISI | January 25, 2011 12:16 AM | Report abuse

I tend to agree with you unless there is another QB out there that reminds Shanahan of a "Younger Donavon McNabb." With that said there is still too many teams picking before the Redskins that are in the same position.....need or desperatly need a QB...or will not pass up on a potential "franchise" QB. Let me name a few....Bills, Arizona, 49ers, and Titans all pick before the Redskins. With the latest news coming out about Carson Palmer perhaps the Bengals will be in the hunt for a young QB.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 25, 2011 8:22 AM | Report abuse

I'm not saying I hope they draft him at 10 but if they do I have to trust that Shanny knows QB's.

Like he did with McNabb

Posted by: jm220 | January 25, 2011 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Great post, Flound...often times, you don't know you've got a great QB until you've got one. So many immeasurables go into the position that you can't really tell how good or bad a guy is gonna be until you get him out there to prove himself. Hopefully, our next move is the right one...sure feels like we're due...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 8:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm not saying I hope they draft him at 10 but if they do I have to trust that Shanny knows QB's.

Like he did with McNabb

Posted by: jm220 | January 25, 2011 8:29 AM |

McNabb was a mistake no doubt about it, but he has had success with other QB's so I still give him the benfit of the doubt.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 25, 2011 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Players beginning to get antsy and b!tchy about the looming lockout...cool.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 8:36 AM | Report abuse

rb problem solved.

"Herschel Walker says he’s thinking about a comeback"

BOOK THAT!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 25, 2011 8:39 AM | Report abuse

flounder21

There are no perfect QB's coming out of college ever they all have flaws you just have to make sure that the flaw is fixible.

You're more patient with people than I am.

I mean, every player in the draft at all positions has some kind of flaw, doesn't he?

The trick is deciding if the kid can succeed in the system/scheme you want him for.

What annoys is that Redskin fans are stuck on the idea of a 'can't miss' kid: and there is no such thing.

You have to trust the people making decisions for the team and ignore the fault-finding media scouts.

The draft is a crap shoot at just about every position--not just at quarterback.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 25, 2011 8:48 AM | Report abuse

rb problem solved.


rb problem solved.

Whereas I know he won't be drafted by the redskins, you have to wonder how 'Bama's Mark Ingraham will make out in the pros.

Dude has speed, power, can block, can catch, has a great burst to daylight.

Too, Ingraham comes out of a college program where the zone-stretch was the primary running play.

I hate to say it, but Mark Ingraham would be a nice pick if other issues on the roster were settled.

But since we got so many other needs, he'll become some other team's Ray Rice-lite running back, not ours.

And that's what I hate to say--and admit.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 8:49 AM | Report abuse

I think we are stuck with the same cast of characters for next season..and that might not be a bad thing.

And as far as the coaches not going to the senior bowl....maybe thats part of the design plan: (1) Shanahan likes to delegate responsibilities down to his staff. (2) An independent team (Allen and scouting staff) scout potential draftees at the senior bowl. (3) Staff gets together to discuss wants, needs and to evaluate players/draftees. (4) A draft plan is put together with Shanahan as the final authority.

Probably better than the way it was done before: Vinny sitting around a table talking to the UPS company, Snyder holding player fantasy football cards, and Ole "Bingo" Lewis calling out the numbers.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 25, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Good discussion from Mayock about the North QBs (Locker, Kaepernick, Stanzi)

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-senior-bowl/09000d5d81de4551/Senior-Bowl-QB-Comparison

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 25, 2011 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Locker has been the target of the Shanahans since Day 1- I guess they see another Matt Schaub in him..OK, if we take Locker (if he's even there at 10), we should do what we did the year we drafted Shuler, and draft another quarterback in the later rounds for insurance (Frerotte won the starting job, and made it to a Pro Bowl...for what its worth)...But Shuler was a flop, and Locker or Newton could turn out to be flops...Hopefully all this Locker-posturing is a swinging gate, we draft NT and Pouncey, and then trade up for Kaepernick..But if Locker is their guy, so be it...Like they say in the basement, we admitted we had no control over our lives and reached out to a Higher Power for guidance..And it ain't Mel Kiper..

Posted by: frak | January 25, 2011 8:56 AM | Report abuse

rb problem solved.

rb problem solved.


Whereas I know he won't be drafted by the redskins, you have to wonder how 'Bama's Mark Ingraham will make out in the pros.

Dude has speed, power, can block, can catch, has a great burst to daylight.

Too, Ingraham comes out of a college program where the zone-stretch was the primary running play.

I hate to say it, but Mark Ingraham would be a nice pick if other issues on the roster were settled.

But since we got so many other needs, he'll become some other team's Ray Rice-lite running back, not ours.

And that's what I hate to say--and admit.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Moe,

Thats a good observation on the kid from Alabama...sounds like he would do really well here.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 25, 2011 8:58 AM | Report abuse

I hate to say this, but Ponder is the kinda QB we want. I watched him a few times this year and he was kicking a$$.

And I hate SemenHoles.

But if he's the right guy, he is. I guess the question is, can he run Shanny's O. They'll have to figure that one out.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Locker has been the target of the Shanahans since Day 1- I guess they see another Matt Schaub in him..OK, if we take Locker (if he's even there at 10), we should do what we did the year we drafted Shuler, and draft another quarterback in the later rounds for insurance (Frerotte won the starting job, and made it to a Pro Bowl...for what its worth)...But Shuler was a flop, and Locker or Newton could turn out to be flops...Hopefully all this Locker-posturing is a swinging gate, we draft NT and Pouncey, and then trade up for Kaepernick..But if Locker is their guy, so be it...Like they say in the basement, we admitted we had no control over our lives and reached out to a Higher Power for guidance..And it ain't Mel Kiper..

Posted by: frak | January 25, 2011 8:56 AM | Report abuse

How about we draft three QBs that way the odds would be even more in our favor!!

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 25, 2011 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Can someone please get beep put on a milk carton or something, dude's been away so long I think this blog is getting out of control without it's leader!

Posted by: monk811 | January 25, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Come on, Alan. First you say Shanahan would never take a QB at #10. Then you say he only took Cutler at #11 because he was "an outlier" and Shanahan didn't really need a QB. So, now that he does need a QB, he won't take one? If he doesn't take a QB at #10 it's only because he doesn't think anyone available is good enough or because he's looking later in the draft -- not because of his "draft history."


Posted by: beep-beep | January 25, 2011 7:58 AM

It was hyperbole for me to say he'll NEVER take a QB at #10. What I'm actually saying is it's highly unlikely he will use the #10 pick on a QB, given his draft history.

As I explained, he ONLY drafted Cutler when he had a team coming off a 13-3 record with an incumbent QB posting a 90.2 QB rating the year before.

He ONLY drafted a QB high when there were no significant holes on his team.

Shanahan has now drafted 7 QBs out of 117 draft picks in his head coaching career, and Cutler was the first he ever took higher than the 3rd round.

Here are all the QBs Shanahan has drafted:

Steve Beuerlein (4th round), Jeff Lewis (4th round), Brian Griese (3rd round), Jarious Jackson (7th round), Matt Mauck (7th round), Brad Van Pelt (7th round), Jay Cutler (1st round).

And keep in mind what happened last year when we had an even higher draft pick than we do now. He took an OT last year in the 1st round, so that his history of first round picks now consist of 5 DBs, 3 OTs, 2 WRs, 2 DL, and 1 QB.


The take-away? Shanahan prefers to build a solid team around a vet BEFORE he uses his highest draft picks on a rookie QB.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 25, 2011 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Two non-football related topics caught my eye this morning:

Flava Flav continues to set black folks back by opening a fried chicken joint called Flav's Fried Chicken. If there's anything that makes you lose your appetite faster than hearing Flav say "you'll still taste all of my seasonings", then I haven't heard it...

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphopmediatraining/361263/flavor-flav-wants-to-compete-with-colonel-sanders/

The other topic should perk Moe's ears right up...how about "soda pot"...that's right, a drink made entirely of medical marijuana:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/24/health/main7277760.shtmlhttp://feeds.cbsnews.com/~r/CBSNewsHealth/~3/JNj5vgknW9E/main7277760.shtmlhttp://feeds.cbsnews.com/~r/CBSNewsHealth/~3/dSFGwOfmwBg/main7277760.shtml

Only in America, men. Only in America...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Good discussion from Mayock about the North QBs (Locker, Kaepernick, Stanzi)


Stanzi might be the 'dark horse' quarterback.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Dude everybody eats fried chicken. It's not like Flava Flav is relasing a new grape soda and watermelon seasoning, or giving away free pregnancy test with every kid's meal....

That sh*t would set black folk back. Not another brother opening up a fried chicken joint.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 9:40 AM | Report abuse

rb problem solved.

"Herschel Walker says he’s thinking about a comeback"

BOOK THAT!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 25, 2011 8:39 AM
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What's he coming back as, a tackling dummy?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 25, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse

"soda pot"- I'm sure you could pour your bongwater into a kahlua smoothie, and you could have all bases covered..

The record company forced Flave on Chuck D and Terminator, they said ,"We'll let you have your rabble-rousing radical group, but only if you take our Cozmic Vegas Clown Crack Addict Flave. Deal??"

Posted by: frak | January 25, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I love fried chicken.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 9:48 AM | Report abuse

rsh, that was from pft, so not sure what his plan is....I think hersh probably missed the spotlight, so he threw that out there for some attention...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 25, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Whats even better is Flav was so smart he opened his new chicken place 5 steps away from a KFC.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 25, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Nearing 50, Herschel Walker is talking about an NFL comeback. To hear him tell it, Walker can still give a boost to any NFL team willing to ignore the date on his birth certificate. He turns 49 on March 3. “If I continue to stay in the shape I’m in now, I know I can play when I’m 50,” Walker insisted [Monday]. … “Right now, if you asked me if I can play today, there’s absolutely no doubt in my mind I can play football, that I can help a team out,” said Walker, whose spent his final three NFL seasons primarily as a receiver and kick returner for the Giants and Cowboys. “I can 100 percent guarantee you I can help a football team out.”

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 25, 2011 9:55 AM | Report abuse

And I hate SemenHoles.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 9:04 AM

As a long time connoisseur of derisive plays on the nicknames of hated sports rivals...SemenHoles is a revelation...a sardonic tour de force that sets a new standard in the genre. Well done and bravo.

Got one for Va Tech?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 25, 2011 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I think the Redskins are probably anxious about a dozen players right now, and maybe Locker is one of them. So much can happen between now and the draft that increase or decrease their standing: a QB who scores a low Wonderlic, a receiver who admits his momma is a ho, a running back who steals something and gets caught, a defensive back who runs the forty in a day and a half... I'm speaking hypothetically, of course.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 25, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Dude everybody eats fried chicken.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 9:40 AM |

No truer words were ever spoken. Besides, Flava already did all the damage to black folk he could with the whole Bridget Nielsen thing.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 25, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Red, if you can click the link I posted to the Flav story, check out the logo in the back and let me know if that changes your mind...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse

See, this is what I hate about using stereotypes to represent racism.

Maybe it's really good fried chicken. The guy's got a big family, he shouldn't try a business venture? Reading the article made me hungry. I also like Ina Garten's chicken wings.

I can understand why someone wouldn't want to perpetuate stereotypes, but we have to realize that it's not the stereotypical behavior that's the propblem, it's the perception and subsequent behavior that is at issue.

Of course if you were just generally sick of the guy himself, I have no problem with that. But look, if he goes away, who's going to sleep with Bridget Nielsen?!! I'm not doing that job. Are you?!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Nearing 50, Herschel Walker is talking about an NFL comeback. To hear him tell it, Walker can still give a boost to any NFL team willing to ignore the date on his birth certificate. He turns 49 on March 3. “If I continue to stay in the shape I’m in now, I know I can play when I’m 50,” Walker insisted [Monday]. … “Right now, if you asked me if I can play today, there’s absolutely no doubt in my mind I can play football, that I can help a team out,” said Walker, whose spent his final three NFL seasons primarily as a receiver and kick returner for the Giants and Cowboys. “I can 100 percent guarantee you I can help a football team out.”

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 25, 2011 9:55 AM
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One of the saddest things in the world is a fifty year old on crack... get to a clinic Hershel.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 25, 2011 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Dude everybody eats fried chicken. It's not like Flava Flav is relasing a new grape soda and watermelon seasoning, or giving away free pregnancy test with every kid's meal....

That sh*t would set black folk back. Not another brother opening up a fried chicken joint.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 9:40 AM |

I've gotta say that SJk is funny.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 25, 2011 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal
by RVAparks

Cameron Jordan is definitely a prospect for the Redskins to keep their eyes on during this week's Senior Bowl. He's a 6'4, 290 lbs defensive lineman, who would make a great defensive end in the 3-4 defense.

Pros
From all accounts Jordan is extremely smart in recognizing offensive schemes and attacking based on the adjustments he makes. He's very agile and more of a power rusher off the end, what he lacks in speed he makes up for in technique. He has very long arms that he uses to plug the passing lanes and is very active with his hands. He is a very hard worker and only has missed one game out of the 38 he has played in over the course of his college career.

Cameron's dad, Steve Jordan, was a 6 time Pro Bowl Tight End for the Vikings and played in the league from 1982-1994, out of Brown University.

Cons
Needs to get better producing sacks and continue to work on speed. He was also suspended one game this year for an arrest on suspicion of DUI.

Projected Pick: Top 10-15, He could be a perfect defensive pick for the Redskins at #10 and should be evaluated with the likes of Ryan Kerrigan and Von Miller at that spot.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 25, 2011 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Got one for Va Tech?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 25, 2011 9:55 AM

Vagina Reek?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 25, 2011 10:05 AM | Report abuse

And keep in mind what happened last year when we had an even higher draft pick than we do now. He took an OT last year in the 1st round, so that his history of first round picks now consist of 5 DBs, 3 OTs, 2 WRs, 2 DL, and 1 QB.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 25, 2011 9:19 AM

Thanks for the stats.

What I see is that he drafts QBs in the first round 1/13th (7.7%) of the time, but QB is only 3 people on a 53 man roster (5.6%) or one position among 22 starters (4.5%). So, based on these data, he seems to favor first round QBs.

On your other point -- preferring to build around a vet QB -- that's what he tried last year and that's what allowed him to draft an OT (after reportedly being unable to trade up to grab the QB that he wanted).

Not saying he's taking a QB at #10, only that you can't rule it out (or in) based on his history. Shanahan traded up, from #15 to #11, to get Cutler, but Cutler was the third QB taken in that draft -- behind Vince Young and Matt Leinert.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 25, 2011 10:06 AM | Report abuse

rb problem solved.

rb problem solved.


Whereas I know he won't be drafted by the redskins, you have to wonder how 'Bama's Mark Ingraham will make out in the pros.

Dude has speed, power, can block, can catch, has a great burst to daylight.

Too, Ingraham comes out of a college program where the zone-stretch was the primary running play.

I hate to say it, but Mark Ingraham would be a nice pick if other issues on the roster were settled.

But since we got so many other needs, he'll become some other team's Ray Rice-lite running back, not ours.

And that's what I hate to say--and admit.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 8:49 AM

Dude, we don't need Ingram. Ingram is most compared to Emmitt Smith b/c he is not that fast, he doesn't have flasy talent, but he gets the job done. We need a speed back. Ingram doesn't have what we need. I prefer Torain, b/c he has better burst. Don't get me wrong Ingram is nice, but not for us. We need to look for a guy to complement Torain. A guy with Speed and can catch the ball.

Look for us to scout Kendall Hunter and DeMarco Murray. Those are guys with speed and can catch.

Posted by: roccoskins | January 25, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

tyvm, Monte! Being a Hurricane, that epithet rolls off the tougne quite easily. Though, I can't take credit for it.

I haven't heard a good one for VT, but I'm simmering ties to venerial disease or at least something about them techincally being v4ginas. I'll keep tryin'....

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 10:00 AM

Okay, yeah the logo looks like an old set background from "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka".

So, if you're YUM Brands (owner of KFC) do you respond to the fact he's calling his place FFC? If you do, it's just going to give them publcity and a little boost in sales.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 25, 2011 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the stats.

What I see is that he drafts QBs in the first round 1/13th (7.7%) of the time, but QB is only 3 people on a 53 man roster (5.6%) or one position among 22 starters (4.5%). So, based on these data, he seems to favor first round QBs.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 25, 2011 10:06 AM
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Sure, you can the math, but can you land a jet on an aircraft carrier?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 25, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

No truer words were ever spoken. Besides, Flava already did all the damage to black folk he could with the 3 seasons of Flavor of Love.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 25, 2011 10:00 AM


There, fixed it for ya...

frak, that concoction you just proposed made me drunk just reading it...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the stats.

What I see is that he drafts QBs in the first round 1/13th (7.7%) of the time, but QB is only 3 people on a 53 man roster (5.6%) or one position among 22 starters (4.5%). So, based on these data, he seems to favor first round QBs.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 25, 2011 10:06 AM
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Sure, you can do the math, but can you land a jet on an aircraft carrier?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 25, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

A guy I want the Skins to draft is Titus Young, WR. The guy is a bigger DeSean Jackson. He is a projected 2nd rounder, but he's gonna be a game changer in the NFL.

Posted by: roccoskins | January 25, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Dude everybody eats fried chicken.

Posted by: RedDMV |

No everybody don't. I don't eat chicken at all

Posted by: jm220 | January 25, 2011 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I think Herschel is doing just fine with his chicken farm or whatever he's into now...and sitting on a boatload of dough.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse

That sh*t would set black folk back.... another brother opening up a fried chicken joint.

Worldwide, Southern fried chicken is one product that's gained popularity--particularly in Asian countries.

'Buffalo wings' are fried chicken in sauce that white people crave in sports bars, too.

Point is, today, everybody eats fried chicken.

But for whatever reason, black folks are insulted by the association between them and the product.

This is a sad thing:

Italians aren't shamed by the popularity of pizza/spaghetti.

Hispanics aren't shamed by the numerous Tex Mex and Taco Bell style restaurants all over the country.

The Chinese sell their staple food and don't even speak English to you when taking your American money.

Japanese steakhouse and sushi joints are seen as a source of pride.

The Irish join right in on the liquoration of the nation come March 17th.

Jewish Americans take pride in the role in developing the motion picture industry while denying they have a role in Hollywood.

And all these groups have faced some sort of shame in America.

But for whatever reason, black folks are shamed by fried chicken, watermelon, collard greens, and macaroni n cheese.

That's a sad thing: it's all good eating as it's what many black athletes grew up on.

I love the food, myself.

And the black man in me ain't ashamed to admit that.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse


The fools are at it hot and heavy again. Dream all you want you fools. Allen will make fools of all of your dreams, as he has already shown what an idiot he is trading draft picks for washed up players. You fools will see this offseason as he demonstrates yet another way to keep this team in the cellar of the NFC east by screwing up in the draft and free agency. He can balance the books, but forget about evaluating talent and making the right moves. Fools !

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 25, 2011 10:19 AM | Report abuse

MColeman, if I'm KFC, I just live with the initial sales boost because it's new and weird and just wait for it to die off...and it WILL die off...

Dik, I have no problem whatsoever with a black man opening a fried chicken joint...just THAT black man opening a fried chicken joint with THAT logo...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I don't eat chicken at all

Posted by: jm220 | January 25, 2011 10:17 AM

You should. It's delicious.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 10:22 AM | Report abuse

So those guys who ride around in the Wheat Thins van... is it just one long roadtrip of constant butt secks or what?

...REALLLY uncomfortable - those ads.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

rocco- young doesn't have the jets that DJax has. That's what makes DJax elite, Titus is more of a 4.5-4.6 guy.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 25, 2011 10:27 AM | Report abuse

On your other point -- preferring to build around a vet QB -- that's what he tried last year and that's what allowed him to draft an OT (after reportedly being unable to trade up to grab the QB that he wanted).

Posted by: beep-beep | January 25, 2011 10:06 AM

Whether it worked or not, that's his preference and his history. And that's my point. He will try it again.

When he wants rookie QBs and RBs, he looks at the later rounds because he's been pretty successful looking there.

I would bet money, if I were a betting man, that he continues to follow his own historical tendencies.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 25, 2011 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Moe, that post was eerily similar to the late Reggie White's epic sermon several years back...

Again...I have no problem with black folks opening a chicken joint...just Flava Flav and his Sambo-esque logo...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I don't eat chicken at all

Posted by: jm220


Not even the baked variety? Rotisserie? Chicken broth?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 10:38 AM | Report abuse

brownwood

....that post was eerily similar to the late Reggie White's epic sermon several years back...

I wrote that speech for Mr. White.

Presently, I'm composing a direct address for someone named Barack Hussien Obama.

He'll deliver the rough draft of that homily later on tonight to assuage the concerns of a freezing Nation.

However, Tuesday morning, I'll post the polished up version as it'll include his Super Bowl picks and thoughts regarding his friends, enemies, countryman, and...

...fried chicken.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I have to go with brownwood on Flava Flav.

That dude is a walking stereotype. It's almost like he was hired by 'the man' to perpetuate that image. (that's the case though because it would've been in the monthly newsletter.)

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 25, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Well put, Brownie.

Other stereotypical logos:

here
AND
here


,.,.so.. again, maybe it's in the perception; like art.


Again - I'm definitely NOT disagreeing with you.

There's a great Spike Jones movie on the topic. I can't remember the name now. Lil hep?

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 10:18 AM

Bravo!

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 10:45 AM | Report abuse

No truer words were ever spoken. Besides, Flava already did all the damage to black folk he could with the whole Bridget Nielsen thing.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 25, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse
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Are you saying that you wouldn't get with a 6 foot tall rich blonde if given the opportunity?

Wait, you're talking about Bridget Nielsen...never mind.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | January 25, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I don't eat chicken at all

Posted by: jm220


Not even the baked variety? Rotisserie? Chicken broth?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 10:38 AM

Sounds to me like dude is a vegetarian...some folks don't eat meat at all and have enough protein substitutes that they don't even miss it. I was raised vegetarian and even though I eat my fair share of chicken and burgers, there are still some dishes my stomach just won't accept...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: roccoskins | January 25, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I second that motion. Every game Titus young was running free 15 yads past his defenders. That dude can flat out get down field.

There are so many quality WR coming out this year. We have to end up with someone decent. Titus will drop in the draft due to his size but that dude will ball in the league.

Posted by: Stu27 | January 25, 2011 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Vagina Reek?

"... real name rover I said bend over
I started to knock then came the odor
smelt like mush shouldn't had a wush
told her stop and take a dush... "

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Accuracy can be tought so can reading defenses, what can't be tought is a big time arm and speed. Locker has the arm and speed.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 25, 2011 8:15 AM

Agree to disagree that accuracy and timing can be taught.

The link itself says that Kaepernick, throwing to the same receivers, is able to hit his mark.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Brownie - cuban meatloaf? w/ Ham & egg in the middle! ... that is some serious carnivore shti right there.

I know there are folks who claim humans are/were herbivores first and foremost.

While I'll concede a possibility, my Baby is doing the bite & pull technique used to pull meat off bones. Now, she didn't learn that from us, so I'm guessin' carnivore from the get go, no?

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Dik, don't open the can of worms on the Redskins logo...how they get grief for that and the Cleveland Indians get ZERO backlash on their blatantly offensive caricature is beyond reprehensible...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I love chicken. I'm always trying to get some fried chicken. I love chicken wings. I make my own chicken soup. I'm making a rotisserie chicken tonight. I just can't seem to get enough chicken. I think it's because I was raised on a beef farm. We hardly ever had chicken and when we did nobody cooked it right. Mmm, chicken. Damn, now I'm hungry.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 25, 2011 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Accuracy can be tought so can reading defenses, what can't be tought is a big time arm and speed. Locker has the arm and speed.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 25, 2011 8:15 AM

Agree to disagree that accuracy and timing can be taught.

The link itself says that Kaepernick, throwing to the same receivers, is able to hit his mark.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 10:52 AM |

It also says that Kaepernick has a hitch in his delivery and has never played in a pro style offense.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 25, 2011 10:56 AM | Report abuse

brownwood, O_Etrod

I have to go with brownwood on Flava Flav....That dude is a walking stereotype

How old school are you when it comes to Hip Hop?

Public Enemy's late 1980s cd It Takes A Nation Of Millions is one of the best pro-black anthemns ever put on wax and pieces of original music in any genre, period.

The songs are strong, angry, complicated, sample-thick, and designed to make anyone pump their fist in the air and wave them like they just don't care.

And what sucks now is that Flava Flav--one of the members of PE (the best rap group in the history of the form)--has morphed into a race charlatan all in a money grab.

Chuck D keeps it real.

But Flava Flav, aka William Drayton, has made all that fire and brimstone rapping they did to promote Black Power back in the day hype I don't want to believe.

Bring Da Noise?: more like Flav is stuck on Channel 0.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I feel a link to the Tailgate Zone or The League coming up soon.

However I'd like to request a Post Sports Live video on this weekends Pro Bowl matchup.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Dik, I said was RAISED vegetarian...not that I still am.

Just sayin' I understand that "culture" (for lack of a better term) and I totally get how someone doesn't eat meat. Personally, I need chicken and an occasional burger or I go crazy...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV @ 10:51 AM

Dude, that's foul.

But it could be an ode to this woman:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/west-virginia/woman-utters-line-never-previously-recorded-police-report

Posted by: Alan4 | January 25, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

The link itself says that Kaepernick


Not to be rude, but this guy would make a helluva wide receiver.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I have no problem whatsoever with a black man opening a fried chicken joint

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Good, cause Chinese people open Chinese joints and Irish people open Irish bars. I'd hate to lose the buzz and munchies afterwards!

Posted by: monk811 | January 25, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Al, I would post the name of the song where that excerpt is from but I wouldn't want to offend anyone...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Good discussion from Mayock about the North QBs (Locker, Kaepernick, Stanzi)

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-senior-bowl/09000d5d81de4551/Senior-Bowl-QB-Comparison

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 25, 2011 8:54 AM

Most interesting part is Mayock talking about watching at Peyton Manning's QB camp, talking about Kaepernick's big arm, and how Peyton and Eli was laughing at how big an arm Kaepernick has ...

... this sucks, because with Mayock pimping, Kaepernick is no longer available by the 4th-5th round ... more like the lower 1st or 2nd.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I hear ya Brownie.

My contention is that it is both. It all depends on who is looking at it and why. Kinda the same w/ the Colonel.

btw - check THIS shti out

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I really hope Shan doesn't screw sht up even more by drafting Locker. This kid is going to suck.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/24/senior.bowl.monday/

Posted by: jm220 | January 25, 2011 7:33 AM

I think I'm with you on Locker. He sounds really inconsistent. Problem is according to past reports Shanahan likes to watch tape of players at their best rather than worst figuring he can always coach them up. Of course it's only January so who knows

Posted by: skinswest | January 25, 2011 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Alan,

"Mellinger arrested her for domestic assault and brandishing a deadly weapon."

I'm confused...was the "deadly weapon" the knife or the horrific smelling vag?

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 11:16 AM | Report abuse

How old school are you when it comes to Hip Hop?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse


Very much so, and you are correct.

Rebel Without a Pause is one of my all time favorite hip hop tracks, as is Bring the Noise (though admittedly, I like the collaboration with Anthrax better)

Give me Chuck D over Jay Z ten times out of ten. He and Terminator X were always on point. Flava was the best hype man in the biz, and I suppose he still is. He just hypes 'the man' now. Sad.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 25, 2011 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 10:18 AM


Bravo!

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 10:45 AM

2nd!

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 25, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/west-virginia/woman-utters-line-never-previously-recorded-police-report

Ain't no way I'd much on that box. Even if it smelled like like potpourri and fried chicken.

That "thing" looks like "its" decomposing.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

whoops:

Link:

wow... weird

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Just remember.... you are what you eat!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 25, 2011 11:22 AM | Report abuse

rocco- young doesn't have the jets that DJax has. That's what makes DJax elite, Titus is more of a 4.5-4.6 guy.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 25, 2011 10:27 AM

We don't know exactly what he runs yet. The Combine isn't until next month. There are reports he has run a good 4.35 to a 4.4. His top end speed is crazy. I watched the guy just fly around in the Senior Bowl practice yesterday. DJax ran lyk a 4.4 smthn at the combine. Its the top end speed that the 40 can't really time.

Posted by: roccoskins | January 25, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Give me Chuck D over Jay Z ten times out of ten.


If Biggie Smalls and Tupac are not killed, Jay-Z's fame doesn't grow in their absence:

a. true

b. false


(and btw: I still rock Hard Knock Life, Blueprint 1, and Reasonable Doubt.)

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse


Dik, don't open the can of worms on the Redskins logo...how they get grief for that and the Cleveland Indians get ZERO backlash on their blatantly offensive caricature is beyond reprehensible...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 10:53 AM |

So perhaps Mr. Snyder should rename the team the "Blackskins" or the "Yellowskins". It is a racist name, and almost everyone knows this as fact, you fool. You call for a cultural change at Redskin Park, yet ignore the fact that the Native Indians are being attacked by racial hatered. You are a fool !

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 25, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Anything that was on MTV was hyping "The Man" from the git-go, sorry to say; anything on a major label, actually.

Those funds go to the war effort, y'know?

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

....the Native Indians are being attacked by racial hatered. You are a fool !

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 25, 2011 11:24 AM


What is the special brand of genius we are being blessed with? Native Indians?

Does this guy just squalk until people (someone...anyone) pay attention to him?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 25, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Flip, I think his issue was with the caricature, not the realistic deptiction the Redskins employ.

I think he was saying the opposite of what you're contending.

Brownie, I don't mean to put words in your mouth, so correct me where I'm wrong.

No need to get ugly, folks. The topic is tough enough without people involving excess emotion.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

flip/flop=personal fowl

ita

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 25, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

tyvm Beaner.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Moe, I'd go with b)false, just because him and BIG was really cool like that. They would of collab'd on a bunch of tracks and probably a few albums.

Hey, if Jay can collab with R. "Grass in the field... piss on it" Kelly, not once but twice, then why not do a few collabs with BIG?

Co-sign on still bumping all those albums too, but I'd like to add "The Black Album" to that list. For me my top 3 Jay-Z albums goes: Black Album, Blueprint, and Hard Knock Life.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

...the Native Indians are being attacked by racial hatered. You are a fool !

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 25, 2011 11:24 AM

Win!

Posted by: hoder | January 25, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/west-virginia/woman-utters-line-never-previously-recorded-police-report


Ain't no way I'd much on that box. Even if it smelled like like potpourri and fried chicken.

That "thing" looks like "its" decomposing.


Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 11:17 AM


But can you imagine if she didn't look like a troll, and you didn't get a good whiff until the lights went out?

Posted by: Alan4 | January 25, 2011 11:42 AM | Report abuse

b) There would be room at the top for Jay Z but maybe not Tupac.

Getting killed was the best thing that happened for Tupac's career.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 25, 2011 11:42 AM | Report abuse


flip/flop=personal fowl

ita

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 25, 2011 11:32 AM |

What a fool. If you read my entire post you will notice I'm not the racist, you and your friend brownwood are in wanting to keep this racist name. Keeping this racist name is pathetic, and you with your ITA show the world what a fool you are. Don't think people don't get tired of your complains about the snow, no game televised in your market, puking in your mouth, the word galactic, etc. Grow up fool !

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 25, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

That's nothing folks...just another night at the 77 Motor Inn.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

So perhaps Mr. Snyder should rename the team the "Blackskins" or the "Yellowskins". It is a racist name, and almost everyone knows this as fact, you fool. You call for a cultural change at Redskin Park, yet ignore the fact that the Native Indians are being attacked by racial hatered. You are a fool !

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 25, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Do you even know why they are called Redskins? You probably don't cause they were teaching that in 4th grade and you dropped out after 3rd.

Why don't you look up the facts before you speak. The Indians used this clay to create a red hue that they would put on their faces, hence the name REDskins. It has NOTHING to do with racism.

A poll was taken of actual Indians on reservations and the percentage was in the 90's of them NOT being offended by the name. It's just a bunch of retards with nothing better to do that want to start something with their name.

Posted by: monk811 | January 25, 2011 11:51 AM | Report abuse

flip/flop=personal fowl

ita

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 25, 2011 11:32 AM |

What a fool. If you read my entire post you will notice I'm not the racist, you and your friend brownwood are in wanting to keep this racist name. Keeping this racist name is pathetic, and you with your ITA show the world what a fool you are. Don't think people don't get tired of your complains about the snow, no game televised in your market, puking in your mouth, the word galactic, etc. Grow up fool !

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 25, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse


Looks like you guys ruffled some feathers with your fowl personal attacks. He shouldn't have to come in here and duck comments from a bunch of chickens.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 25, 2011 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Damn, o_e.... cold blooded... hahahahaha


Al, that why you run your fingers down there on a chic either before or after the box goes wet.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Getting killed was the best thing that happened for Tupac's career.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 25, 2011 11:42 AM

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid!

All Eyez on ME Album:

It was certified 5× Platinum after just 2 months in April 1996, and finally 9× Platinum in June 1998 by the RIAA.[5]

5x platinum in 2 months while he was living.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 25, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse

It also says that Kaepernick has a hitch in his delivery and has never played in a pro style offense.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 25, 2011 10:56 AM

Roethlesberger had a hitch in his throw that he didn't work on till his four game suspension. They say Kaepernick hasn't taken snaps under center (which is not technically true b/c Nevada's pistol offense is only two years old), but then they compare him to Tebow who had the same deal and is figuring it out. They call Kaepernick "raw" ... that means he needs some work.

Moe, you're just saying that Kaepernick should be a WR and not a QB because you are pals with Rush Limbaugh. [And I say that in the most absurd sense possible, i.e., I don't mean it ...]. But I do think the Kaepernick is going to find success in the NFL as a QB ... more than Tebow or Clausen anyway ... and WAY more than Charlie Whitehurst or Brodie Croyle.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Also, the Cleveland baseball team does get a lot of grief over the mascot. Its nearly impossible to find any Chief Wahoo gear except as memoribilia on eBay. They still go by the nickname "The Tribe" (but lesbians and jews also refer to themselves collectively using that word).

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

4thfloor

All Eyez on ME


'Memba?:

How Do You Want It?
"..tell me how do you want it, how does it feel?

and:

It's All About You
"...everywhere I go, I see the same hoes..."

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

PA, nice "bird" play...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

So perhaps Mr. Snyder should rename the team the "Blackskins" or the "Yellowskins". It is a racist name, and almost everyone knows this as fact, you fool. You call for a cultural change at Redskin Park, yet ignore the fact that the Native Indians are being attacked by racial hatered. You are a fool !

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 25, 2011 11:24 AM


Yeah, I'm the fool...you just said "Native Indians"...

Until you've done the research on the name Redskins, STFU. I've done the research and come to the conclusion that it's an innocuous gray area. As a minority, I can tell you with all confidence that if white people are more outraged than the "offended" parties, then it's basically a non-issue.

And I repeat...if this is sooo awful, then were's the outrage over the Cleveland Indians and their Sambo-esque logo? When does THAT movement start?

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

The Indians used this clay to create a red hue that they would put on their faces, hence the name REDskins. It has NOTHING to do with racism.

A poll was taken of actual Indians on reservations and the percentage was in the 90's of them NOT being offended by the name. It's just a bunch of retards with nothing better to do that want to start something with their name.

Posted by: monk811 | January 25, 2011 11:51 AM

Look at the big brain on my sock puppet!

No way the Redskins are changing their name...we have a dive ass song!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

dcsween

But I do think the Kaepernick is going to find success in the NFL as a QB ...

If he does, it'll be because of his athleticism AND his arm.

But dude looks like a stick.

He's so skinny, Ethiopians and runway models send him money for food.

If he balls out in the Senior Bowl, he'll move draft boards as he is a very good player, though.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

speaking of looking at players, I can't believe the NFL's 31st of 32 defenses has three players in the Pro Bowl.

You guys know I am a faithful, die-hard 'Skins fan, but what does this say for the integrity of the Pro Bowl?

Hey Mr Commissioner, in this year's negotiations, please, eliminate the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 25, 2011 12:07 PM | Report abuse

He's so skinny, Ethiopians and runway models send him money for food.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 12:04 PM

Nice! "Don't forget to tip the waitress!"

I'm not a skinny person (understatement of the decade), but I don't think that skinny precludes success at QB. If Kevin Barnes can tackle Jahvid Best so hard he pukes,* then Kaepernick can connect on low percentage passes. Low completion rate Locker just spells doom to me.

* I will concede that Kevin Barnes broke his collarbone on that hit.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 12:12 PM | Report abuse

No way the Redskins are changing their name.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Yeah!!!!

Unless we are made to by a judge, but we'll still secretly call them Redskins in private under protest!

Am I the only one that was worried about beep? I was starting to believe Chicken McBeep story PA.

Posted by: monk811 | January 25, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Ray,
I disagree. Being selected to the pro-bowl is still an honor, even if some of the best players avoid actually plaing in it for whatever reasons (thereby opening the door for the next echelon of players).

The pro-bowl was a trigger in the McNabb deal with the Iggles (3rd round pick vs 4th round), and a guy like London Fletcher gets some national recognition he might not otherwise get.

I don't care much about the actual game, but I still think pro bowl selection is meaningful. The 3 Skins selected are all strong playmakers (and I won't be drawn into a debate about the weaknesses in DHall's game--he's been selected to the pro bowl on 2 different teams now).

Posted by: Alan4 | January 25, 2011 12:17 PM | Report abuse

speaking of looking at players, I can't believe the NFL's 31st of 32 defenses has three players in the Pro Bowl.

You guys know I am a faithful, die-hard 'Skins fan, but what does this say for the integrity of the Pro Bowl?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 25, 2011 12:07 PM


Nothing...the Pro-Bowl is an individual honor, not a reflection of team success (or at least it's not supposed to be). We had 4 Pro Bowlers on a lousy Redskin offense in '08...but each of those individual players compiled stats worthy of the honor.

I mean, in the 90s Ken Harvey was a perennial Pro Bowler for us even though the Redskins were awful at the time. On the other side of the coin, the Chargers were 1st in offense AND defense for most of this season yet only won 8 games.

Just a statistical oddity...no need to change the world over it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 25, 2011 12:18 PM | Report abuse

As long as we're wandering into race and ethnicity, I'm going to compare the lack of love that my mixed race QB choice gets to that of my President, Barack Hussein Obama. My QB choice, Colin Dallas Cowboys Kaepernick, just can't catch a break.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 12:23 PM | Report abuse

dcsween

Isn't Tampa's Josh Freeman mixed race?

He looks what Cam Newton could become.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Moe

How would u feel about pouncey then kid kaep?

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 25, 2011 12:40 PM | Report abuse

brandon

I'd feel better about Nick Fairley then J Powe.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"He's so skinny, Ethiopians and runway models send him money for food."

Hey living in the Alexandria area, there are a lot of Ethiopians around there. Not all of them are skinny. Some of the females have bad ass bodies.

I think you have Ethiopians confused with Somalis, perhaps? Either one would cut you if you did -- along with Eritreans, they hate being confused with each other.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Tampa's Josh Freeman mixed race?...

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 12:33 PM

Let's be real... MOST African-Americans who had slave anscestors in this country are "mixed race". My family reunion looks like a rainbow of shades, with lots of people who could "pass" but aren't white.

If your family has been in this country for the past 5 or more generations, your genetics probably ain't "pure" anymore.


Posted by: Alan4 | January 25, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

He looks what Cam Newton could become.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

There CFB playing style were polar opposites... Cam looked to run, Freeman has always looked to throw downfield. Cam has way more juke when running Josh was downhill. Cam dosent have the deep accuracy that Josh had.

Posted by: Stu27 | January 25, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse


Moe

Ya that would be nice if we had two top twenty pics wouldn't it??

Sadly fairly will be gone top 3, powe mayyyy be there second rnd, depends if teams start running for the position.

How much more cap space will we have next year??

I heard were around 40mil now, how much could that go up with the removal of clinton, albert n donovan???

Another 10 mil??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 25, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse


No way the Redskins are changing their name...we have a dive ass song!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 12:03 PM |
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the one and only original nfl fight song may I add !

does anyone remember that hideous houston oilers fight song ?

Posted by: hessone | January 25, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse


Moe

Ya that would be nice if we had two top twenty pics wouldn't it??

Sadly fairly will be gone top 3, powe mayyyy be there second rnd, depends if teams start running for the position.

How much more cap space will we have next year??

I heard were around 40mil now, how much could that go up with the removal of clinton, albert n donovan???

Another 10 mil??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 25, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

No cheerleaders at this years Superbowl...thats bs.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 12:53 PM | Report abuse

You have to search for the word "Redskins" (because the page won't allow cutting for pasting), but this guy says that the Skins scouts were mostly all over the offensive linemen.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/Freshman-Blog.php

The good news is that the team has heard what the fans have been screaming for years ... years of screaming ... not this year, but previous years.

Now please prepare your screaming for defensive linemen and linebackers.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

No cheerleaders at this years Superbowl...thats bs.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 12:53 PM

Hookers instead

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse


Now please prepare your screaming for defensive linemen and linebackers.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 12:55 PM |
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drafting d-line dc, then o-line. snag a QB next year

SAVE THE WHALES AND WHATEVER MONK NEEDS SAVED !!!

Posted by: hessone | January 25, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

The guys the Skins scouts apparently talked to, besides Locker, yesterday were Shane Schilling, Casey Matthews, Lance Kendricks, Greg Jones, and James Brewer.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Now please prepare your screaming for defensive linemen and linebackers.

Posted by: dcsween


I lost my voice a few years back. It's why I spend my time banging my fingers on the keyboard in a constant rage.


BUT THEY NEVER HEAR ME!

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

because the page won't allow cutting for pasting

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 12:55 PM

Sorry in advance for the NERD tech support sween...but if right click is disabled...you can always highlight what you want to copy and goto Edit, Copy on your browser. I know...I'm very smart.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm so tired of all this racial bs. Not our discussions on the blog. Those are usually very good.

But the systemization of it. It's irrelevant. I almost threw the census person out last year after their classifications were just horrifically offensive.

Half the time the classifiers end up making complete nonsense. I realize they're trying to mete out 'benefits' for 'minorities', but it's extremely racist and degrading.

I'm sick of folks having to pick one part of their heritage over another. You're a person. You come from other people. Things happened to them. blah.

My ancestors were slaves, tribesmen (women?), engineers and farmers. Who gives a shti.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

No cheerleaders at this years Superbowl...thats bs.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 12:53 PM

Hookers instead

Posted by: dcsween


With blow as field chalk.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Stephen Schilling, Casey Matthews, Lance Kendricks, Greg Jones, and James Brewer.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 1:01 PM

OL, LB, TE, LB, OL.

SWEET! A tight end!

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey I love London Fletcher and Orakpo
but our heart's love for the 'skins aside,
how can we call it a Pro Bowl when so many great players are not even in the game, and then the 31st ranked Defense would actually produce not one, not two, but three Pro Bowlers on the defensive side of the ball?

The game has no integrity

Schedule the NBA All Star Game on the Sunday before the Super Bowl!

HTTR

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 25, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

My ancestors were slaves, tribesmen (women?), engineers and farmers. Who gives a shti.

Posted by: DikShuttle


My ancestors are dead.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 25, 2011 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Sorry in advance for the NERD tech support sween...but if right click is disabled...you can always highlight what you want to copy and goto Edit, Copy on your browser.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 1:08 PM

Thanks for the help, but I think the masses will use it more. I have a horrible short term memory and a very short attention span ... like a hamster who keeps running step after step on the exercise wheel because he keeps forgetting that the previous one didn't get him where he wants to go ... then steps off happily because he forgot where he was going.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 25, 2011 11:54 AM

Selling a lot of records is not a testament to one's talent. It's a testament to what's popular. "To the Extreme" sold 11 million copies. Should Vanilla Ice be in the hip hop HOF?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 25, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

If we don't go that route, Carson Palmer is saying he wants a trade or he'll retire. Mcnabb for Palmer would benefit both teams. I don't love Palmer but he is better than Grossman to be sure.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | January 25, 2011 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Never gonna happen. Let me be the first to say that I hope I'm wrong and would gladly pull the trigger on this deal...but Mike Brown is a notoriously cheap owner. I don't see him taking on McNabb's monster contract if he dumps Carson's similarly massive contract.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 25, 2011 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I hear ya sween...I can't read a post longer than 3 sentences...or watch any video posted here longer than a minute.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 25, 2011 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm just saying he didn't have to die to make $$$.....amd lyrically, he is one of the best....But I was just refencing the $$$ making part..

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 25, 2011 1:23 PM | Report abuse

The guys the Skins scouts apparently talked to, besides Locker, yesterday were Shane Schilling, Casey Matthews, Lance Kendricks, Greg Jones, and James Brewer.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to get little Matthews...anyone know where he projects? I'm guessing 3rd-4th round.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 25, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Skins MUST trade down... a couple of times picking up as many choices as they can in this draft.
Must get younger talent now, filling holes...

Ahh yes, I am reminded when Vinny said he had provided Zorn a playoff caliber roster.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 25, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Amen, RedD

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Skins MUST trade down... a couple of times picking up as many choices as they can in this draft.
Must get younger talent now, filling holes...

Ahh yes, I am reminded when Vinny said he had provided Zorn a playoff caliber roster.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 25, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Agreed that trading down is the best option, if we can find a reasonable suitor of course- our needs are so great that we really need to add some extra picks to make up for the McNabb and Brown trades.

Simultaneously shaking head/laughing at Vinny's claim...

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 25, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't necessarily disagree but before getting shot and going to jail Pac wasn't selling a ton of records like that. He has more posthumous albums than albums released while he was alive. His posthumous albums, which are filled with songs no one wanted to release while he was alive, sold way more than the All Eyez on Me and his best work Me Against the World. I just think he and Biggie have been mythologized to the extreme.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 25, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Should Vanilla Ice be in the hip hop HOF?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 25, 2011 1:18 PM

Speaking of mixed race, this guy's mother was vanilla and his dad was ice.

I don't know where I'm going with this.

Also, I don't think Casey Matthews is related to the guy on the Packers or that guys dad.

Finally, Carson Palmer is done. He's a Bulger or a Delhomme of his former self. Cincinnati could have been a real team this year if their QB didn't have a fork stuck in him.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Are U A Real Redskin Fan?

Not sure?

Completing the survey listed below should help you decide:

1. I am in love with
a. my gun
b. my sister-in-law
c. my sister

2. My favorite country
a. which ever one we're bombing
b. Texas, not
c. which country is bombing Texas

3. Preferred weapon
a. fart
b. directional farting
c. wind-driven directional farting

4. Favorite breaksfast food
a. six pack
b. hydro and Frosted Flakes later
c. the girlfriend

5. Highest level of schooling
a. elementary dropout
b. Duke U
c. a, b (same thing)

6. Favorite article of clothing
a. gatorskins shirt from Spurrier years
b. 56 Arrington jersey
c. stained underwear (in front and back)

7. Personal quote
a. Happiness is a warm girl
b. Happiness is a warm beer
c. Happiness is a six pack of warm beer and no girls in the house

8. Place of birth
a. between my momma's legs
b. alley in Alexandria
c. RFK parking lot Fall of 1981

9. Last time around, you voted for
a. the Hawaiian
b. the Arizonian
c. impeachment of the razorback

10.The author of your pleasure reading
a. madmoe
b. gimmiesummoe
c. mistamoe

We would share the answer key, but then, everyone would take the test and qualify as a redskin fan.

And do you really want that to happen?

Didn't think so.....

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 25, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Having said that I agree with trading down in the right scenario...I really like Von Miller. McShay said he's having a great week at the Senior Bowl, has looked good in coverage, and his pass rushing talent is already well known. Could be a great compliment to 'Rak at the other OLB/rush end spot

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 25, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Senior Bowl Prospect: Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue
by RVAparks on Jan 25, 2011 12:13 PM EST

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Purdue’s Ryan Kerrigan is another guy the Redskins need to keep tabs on at this week’s Senior Bowl. Kerrigan is a 6’4, 260 lbs defensive end, who could seamlessly make the transition to a 3-4 OLB for the Skins.

Pros
Kerrigan is pretty solid across the board. He has a tremendous burst off the line and possesses a great deal of power given his size. At Purdue, Kerrigan tied the all-time FBS fumbles forced record with 14. Kerrigan is more athletic than Orakpo or any of our OLBs in terms of underneath coverage.  Kerrigan is a phenomenal pass rusher and has active hands when QBs are looking to throw.

He was also the captain of Purdue’s team this year, won the team’s Pit Bull Award (for team tenacity), and is a two time All-Big Ten Academic Team member.

Cons
Injury history is a factor with Kerrigan, he broke his foot in the last game of the season in 2009 and was forced to undergo surgery. The injury was re-aggravated during the Spring and there have been some minor lingering issues, but all signs point to him being ok in the future. He also got worked a little by Colorado T Nate Solder during the running drills of the first day of Senior Bowl practice. But he excelled in the passing drills and it shows a lot that these two guys want to go after each other. (PRO)

Projected Pick: Top 10-15, He is another guy to look at along with Cameron Jordan, Von Miller, etc if we choose to go defense at #10.



Posted by: Diesel44 | January 25, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

There was a Hawaiian? I knew there was a Keynesian...

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

SAVE THE WHALES AND WHATEVER MONK NEEDS SAVED !!!

Posted by: hessone | January 25, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

SAVE THE T*TTIES!!!!

Posted by: monk811 | January 25, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Also, I don't think Casey Matthews is related to the guy on the Packers or that guys dad.

Posted by: dcsween | January 25, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Yes, he is...Clay Sr is his dad, which of course makes Clay Jr his bigger, faster, stronger brother. Bruce is his Unky.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 25, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

... as long as it ain't DAVE Matthews...

..am I right? haah?

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Video beeps

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 25, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse


SAVE THE T*TTIES!!!!

Posted by: monk811 | January 25, 2011 1:46 PM |
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save the ta-ta's ?

Posted by: hessone | January 25, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 25, 2011 1:41 PM |

Dude - you rock.

Posted by: ChinaLake | January 25, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Colin Kaepernick is a very impressive athlete. Saw him last year when SMU whipped Nevada in the Hawaii Bowl, and saw him on TV a few times this year. Very raw, but a big guy with a very strong arm and great speed. One of the most impressive things last year in Hawaii was that during a press conference before the game, Nevada coach Chris Ault barely touched on his arm strength or speed, choosing instead to talk about Kaepernick's smarts and ability to read defenses and check in and out of plays.

As for little-known players who merit a look: (full disclosure — I'm an SMU fan) check out SMU WR Aldrick Robinson. A little small, but a team that signed Banks can't complain about that .... and he's freaky fast. Last year Bryan McCann ran the fastest 40 in the country (4.28). Wouldn't be a shock to see the same school produce the fastest 40 in the country again. Robinson can flat-out fly, and has become a well-rounded WR, not just a sprinter.

Posted by: DC2Dallas | January 25, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, I am not sure what order is the best for the Redskins in this draft. I know they need to address QB and O-line. QB's may not be good/available next year. And yeah, there's a need of good players in other positions also, but these come to my mind first. If they use their first pick on a QB, will any good OL be left for the 'skins to draft with their later picks? Or reverse it. If they address the OL first, will there be a QB worth drafting? With all my IDK's, I do know that I liked what I read on Nate Solder's report on SeniorBowl.com. Good thing I'm not the coach or GM. Because what direction is truly best?...IDK

Posted by: davedeltawhiskeybravo | January 26, 2011 12:09 AM | Report abuse

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