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Brandon Marshall might be first post-McNabb move

At noon today, for the first time in his 11-year professional career, longtime Eagle Donovan McNabb will stand in front of a new team's logo. Even as McNabb is introduced as the Redskins' next quarterback, you can bet the team is already identifying its next moves.

And the three areas to keep a close eye on: wide receiver, safety, left tackle -- but not necessarily in that order. In fact, it's probably safe to consider receiver Brandon Marshall's name back in play, and one that you might hear sooner than you hear any tackle's.

Let's start with the draft. With the release of quarterback Marc Bulger on Tuesday, it certainly seems like the St. Louis Rams are moving the chess pieces to make room for Oklahoma's Sam Bradford. While the Redskins will almost certainly listen for offers to move down in the draft in order to gain more picks, it's going to be difficult to pass up at No. 4 Oklahoma State tackle Russell Okung, who was in town for a visit this week.

That said, Tennessee safety Eric Berry is another name that sounds a lot more intriguing today than perhaps it did a week ago. Word that the Redskins might have been willing to part with LaRon Landry as part of McNabb trade would seem to indicate that Redskins coaches feel they can afford to upgrade at that position. They hosted Berry for a visit last week at Redskins Park.

But even before the draft begins on April 22, it probably shouldn't shock anyone if Marshall's name surfaces in connection with the Redskins.

Now that Washington has a quarterback in McNabb that coaches think can help the team win right away, it makes sense that they might immediately chase after a receiver to complement him. While Marshall-to-the-Redskins has been a soft rumor for weeks, don't be surprised if it gains traction in the two weeks leading up to the draft.

Shanahan likes big receivers, and at 6-foot-4-inches, Marshall is bigger than the Redskins' top two receivers, 5-10 Santana Moss and 6-2 Devin Thomas. He also has three straight seasons with at least 100 receptions, 1,000 yards and six touchdowns -- something no receiver on the Washington roster can claim.

Marshall, a restricted free agent, carries a first-round tender, and the Redskins aren't about to pay that price. But Marshall isn't long for Denver, and the Broncos could always consider a trade.

It'd seem unwise for the Redskins to part with any more 2010 picks. If they were to offer players, the most likely offers might include a receiver, a safety or defensive linemen.

The Redskins, of course, have remained tight-lipped on the matter. Asked about Marshall two weeks ago, Shanahan said, "Just have to wait and see. Can't share that with you."

By Rick Maese  |  April 6, 2010; 5:59 AM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb , Free agency , NFL Draft  | Tags: Brandon Marshall, Eric Berry, LaRon Landry  
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NCAA Basketball National Champions:

Duke University

Get used to it!

Posted by: League-Source | April 6, 2010 6:05 AM | Report abuse

NCAA Basketball National Champions:

Duke University

Get used to it!

Posted by: League-Source | April 6, 2010 6:05 AM |

LS,

Great Game loved it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 6:14 AM | Report abuse

Hey Rick,

Your not Glazer or Shefter so don't throw sh_t against the wall to see if it sticks. Do what you normally do and wait for a real insider to report, and then you can copy and paste.

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Posted by: MoriyaLouis06 | April 6, 2010 6:17 AM | Report abuse

Would love to have Marshall on the receiving corps.

Posted by: joeboggs | April 6, 2010 6:53 AM | Report abuse

We seriously need to be addressing this Oline. We can ill afford to give away any more picks for Marshall. It would have to be a trade involving existing players. Haynesworth and Landry for Marshall and Royal.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 6, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

And how exactly are we luring Brandon Marshall? We have no more ammunition. Start getting Thomas, Kelly, and Marko Mitchell up to speed by actually COACHING now.

Posted by: ar652 | April 6, 2010 7:07 AM | Report abuse

How tall is Malcolm Kelly????? How tall is Marco Mitchell???? Study the roster Rick! its yo job, hes got two young receivers with considerable height on the roster...So back to drafting Okung....

Posted by: MajorFacemask | April 6, 2010 7:09 AM | Report abuse

LS, you and Duke are perfect for each other. Take that how you like...

As for the proposed Marshall trade...Denver has never shied away from filling their roster with turds and we've got two they should LOVE in Haynesworth and Landry. I know they run a 3-4 in Denver but you'd think Landry and maybe next year's 2nd round pick would be good enough to pry him away from the Broncos.

Not saying they SHOULD do it (I'm tired to trading picks), but just sayin' the price wouldn't be nearly as steep as we think.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 6, 2010 7:12 AM | Report abuse

"Now that Washington has a quarterback in McNabb that coaches think can help the team win right away, it makes sense that they might immediately chase after a receiver to complement him."

Brandon Marshall?

Sure.

And who'll block for McNabb, btw?

I'm wondering more and more if the new guys are the old guys with different names.

On to the draft and our diminishing stock of picks.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 7:14 AM | Report abuse

How tall is Malcolm Kelly????? How tall is Marco Mitchell???? Study the roster Rick! its yo job, hes got two young receivers with considerable height on the roster...So back to drafting Okung....

Posted by: MajorFacemask | April 6, 2010 7:09 AM


He said TOP TWO WRs, so maybe you should study what he said in addition to the roster...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 6, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

How much of a malcontent is Hainesworth going to be now that he knows they dangled his name out there. He will be more of a waste this year then last!

Posted by: joeboggs | April 6, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

If I'm Bruce Allen, I call up Carolina and see if I can get a 2nd round pick and a mid round pick next year for Haynesworth, Landry and Campbell. They have a lame duck coach and the GM may not even make it to the end of this offseason so they have to win NOW. Usually the GM won't care about giving up picks that they may or may not be there to use anyway. Plus the guys I mentioned play positions of need for them...sounds like a huge win/win if something could happen.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 6, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

I have a theory that this trade could happen because Shanny thinks the Lions take Okung.

Devin Thomas and the #4 pick for Brandon Marshall and Denver's #11. There would be a good OT available (Baluga?)who may have been seen as a stretch at #4.

Not sure its ideal, though...

Posted by: stevebeagrie | April 6, 2010 7:28 AM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a Dline of Al, Phil, and that Samoan dude, but Al needs to be traded if he isn't buying into the system. He should net us a late first I would think. He is still the most dominant force on the D line. Lions and Schwartz may want Big Al.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 6, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

I just sit and wait and see what WR's get released. Is Denver really gonna go into the season with a WR they are disgruntled with?

Posted by: alex35332 | April 6, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Did Shanny draft Marshall?

Posted by: Sports_Guru | April 6, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

My hopes and frigging prayers...

That the F.O. already has a feel for a trading partner to move down... I DO NOT think OKUNG will be available at 4... Detroit has signed three DL-men inthe off season and will move to protect Stafford with a LT.

If this happens, SOMEONE will want to go up and get McCoy or Suh, whichever one is left on the board at 4.

If we can pick up a 1 and a 2 for the 4th pick, we essentially get McNabb for next year's 3rd rounder... not too shabby.

By trading back, Bulaga or T. Williams may be available. If not, trade back again (yes, I know, Fantasy GM'ing) and target the big man from Maryland or the LT from Indiana that is rising.

The moves being made make me wonder how good Shanny believes those two FA OLmen that used to be Bronco's can be? Does he know something we don't? Sure as &%$# hope so.

Could this happen? I'm hoping so... or watching any draft coverage will be over in the first hour after their one and only pick in the first three rounds.

Posted by: bschaef12 | April 6, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

I can see a trade for Brandon Marshall and Tony Scheffler that includes Santana Moss and Cooley. Can't see any more draft picks going and if Shanahan is committed to bigger receivers, Moss really doesn't fit.

It seems more and more likely that the team is going to draft a left tackle rather than trade for one.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 6, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Can Brandon Marshall play LT?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 6, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

That the F.O. already has a feel for a trading partner to move down... I DO NOT think OKUNG will be available at 4... Detroit has signed three DL-men inthe off season and will move to protect Stafford with a LT.

Posted by: bschaef12 | April 6, 2010 7:43 AM |

Your not Mr. current affairs are you they traded for a LT yesterday they will not draft Okung.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Good morning...thanks for your patience while we upgraded Losable Type.

Posted by: CindyBoren | April 6, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Can Brandon Marshall play LT?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 6, 2010 7:54 AM |

No but are first pick in the draft will be able to play LT, but you don't want to wait for the draft I forgot. You want a LT to magically appear out of thin air.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Once again this team go after big names as if it is one player away from winning it all. I am so damn tired of the same old same old.

Posted by: jm220 | April 6, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Good morning...thanks for your patience while we upgraded Losable Type.

Posted by: CindyBoren | April 6, 2010 7:55 AM |

Cindy does this mean only 50 or so double post a day?

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Your not Mr. current affairs are you they traded for a LT yesterday they will not draft Okung.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse
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Sims is a LG, and was offered a 4th round tender; not exactly stardust material. DET may go DT, but they would be stupid to pass up Okung when Backus is 32, no matter how well he played last season.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 6, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

some really, REALLY good trade suggestions above. I liked the one where we send them Cooley, and Moss, and get back Marshall and Schefter, that makes sense..or not, but then AH/JC/LL for a 2nd, and a mid round pick next year takes the cake...

I'm suggesting Betts for a 2nd.

Lunacy is FUN!!!

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Your not Mr. current affairs are you they traded for a LT yesterday they will not draft Okung.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 7:55 AM


Actually, the guy they got yesterday is a LG...but it means that Jeff Backus is staying at LT.

No doubt they need a LT but I still don't think they take Okung. They can get the best player in the draft (Suh) AND get a good LT at the top of the 2nd round. This is the deepest draft in recent memory at OT and I'm fairly certain the Redskins aren't the only team privy to that information.

Okung is the pick at #4. No worries.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 6, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

No but are first pick in the draft will be able to play LT, but you don't want to wait for the draft I forgot. You want a LT to magically appear out of thin air.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse
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And how is that different from expecting a LT, RT, and stud RB to materialize from a draft in which we have one pick of note? And that one pick may be traded for BM and a lower pick?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 6, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

going on record once again stating my displeasure with this trade for McNabb...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

"And that one pick may be traded for BM and a lower pick?"


I betcha D Thomas and a 4th rounder snags B Marshall.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

oing on record once again stating my displeasure with this trade for McNabb...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse
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Right there beside you...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 6, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

moe, thats EXACTLY the type of trades that this team needs to stay away from. Trading young players, and picks for older, more expensive players, with lots of baggage....

No thanks...I'll pass...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

going on record once again stating my displeasure with this trade for McNabb...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

Not to happy with a front office move?

There's a first.

Feel how you want of course, but what happened to the wait and see approach?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 6, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

And how is that different from expecting a LT, RT, and stud RB to materialize from a draft in which we have one pick of note? And that one pick may be traded for BM and a lower pick?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 6, 2010 8:10 AM |

Who says we might trade that pick for BM, Rick Maese how many Redskins stories has he broken let me give you a hint 0.

We don't need a stud RB in this draft Shanny has never needed a stud RB for his offense.

We need a LT in the draft we will get that, as far as RT goes there are options in FA Levi jones being one or another player to be cut soon.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Can Brandon Marshall play LT?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 6, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse


Trading for Marshall wouldn't mean that they don't draft Okung or some other LT with the first round pick.

Posted by: dfbovey | April 6, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

"Going on record once again stating my displeasure with this trade for McNabb..."

I feel the same way.

Thing is, who would you choose between, a rookie #1 pick or an 11 year vet?

That was Shananhan's choice to make.

Me?: I'd move up to get Bradford, devote the rest of the draft to acquire lineman, and depend on a sound ground game for two seasons while Bradford gets his game together.

A guy with 11 years under his belt is a great pickup if you've got a Super Bowl ready roster missing just a quarterback.

But the skins are missing more than just a quarterback, which is why the decision to bring in McNabb is a head scratcher.

But what's done is done.

And if Marshall is coming, well, I doubt if I'll be on board with that idea, too.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Beaner I'm right there with you on McNabb. And I'll be really surprised if we get anything good back for JC17. The brass leaking it that we might keep him means nobody one wants him, or no one has put in a good offer for him...

Posted by: mattylight | April 6, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

How tall is Malcolm Kelly????? How tall is Marco Mitchell???? Study the roster Rick! its yo job, hes got two young receivers with considerable height on the roster...So back to drafting Okung....

Posted by: MajorFacemask | April 6, 2010 7:09 AM


He said TOP TWO WRs, so maybe you should study what he said in addition to the roster...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 6, 2010 7:18 AM

BrownWood:

You should learn what "taking things out contexts" means. Who said Devin Thomas is a top receiver. You are operating under the assumption that whatever the reporter says is absolute fact, its an opinion that is taken out of context, we have more than 2 WR's on the roster DUDE!!!! Last time I check Santana is the only All Pro.

Posted by: MajorFacemask | April 6, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

red, I just thought that this new admin would value the draft more so than the old admin did....they can't continue in this fashion, they've tried it, and come out of the whole thing as an abject failure, and a laughingstock...my issue is more with the trading of low draft picks, which in this case eliminates the wait and see approach, because there is no longer a 2nd round pick to wait for....

Philly has a BOATLOAD of picks, 6, in the top 100, or something like that, imagine that...while the Redskins have what, 1?

Now before anyone jumps ugly, yeah, I realize the draft hasn't happened yet, but when you back yourself into a corner such as what the team did with this move, you don't give yourself many options.

Think about this team having 6 picks in the top 100?? Think about that for a minute....LT/RT/LB/DE/NT/CB....gee, think we could use any of those picks??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

red

"Feel how you want of course, but what happened to the wait and see approach?"

Wait and see shifted into, "I've seen this already..." when the ESPN Breaking News crawl shouted about the redskin trade for McNabb.

A big time trade for a stud tackle or offensive linemen of any sort would make this blogga thing the steady hand of common damn sense was guiding the good ship redskin.

Now?: we give a second rounder and additional picks to a team in our division that's stockpiling draft options like a smart Vegas gambler.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

LS, you and Duke are perfect for each other. Take that how you like...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 6, 2010 7:12 AM

Why, thank you, brownwood! And, in the same spirit, let me offer that I think you and the University of the District of Columbia seem well matched.

Posted by: League-Source | April 6, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Think about this team having 6 picks in the top 100?? Think about that for a minute....LT/RT/LB/DE/NT/CB....gee, think we could use any of those picks??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 8:29 AM |

That is the fault of the old Admin. not the new, they didn't think JC was the QB for them and they did something about it. Just because they are not rebuilding the team like some on here want doesn't mean it wont work.

You guys are saying it the same old stuff but it's not because people who actually know what they are doing are running things now.

Shanny has never had a bad o-line and I'll bet he doesn't have one this year either.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

I, for one, am truly excited about having a legit QB and leader in the huddle....Please don't tell me you would rather have JC in the huddle in the fourth quarter needing a score...with his deer in the headlights look and his propensity to make dumb decisions under pressure..How many times has he ever led us downfield for a score to win the game again?? Thank God for McNabb...maybe not the McNabb of old but a HUGE upgrade over Campbell..Hey just thought of something..Soup got replaced by the Chunky Soup Star...

Posted by: scottmando | April 6, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Now?: we give a second rounder and additional picks to a team in our division that's stockpiling draft options like a smart Vegas gambler.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 8:33 AM |

Yes they have all those picks and without a QB you will see how far that gets them.

The Vikings have a great roster up and down but guess what Tavaris Jackson can't lead them anywhere.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

flound, I don't share your enthusiasm for the oline, and thats gonna make/break the season/Mcnabb....I mean, they've placed/hedged their bets that Okung is gonna be there at #4, or there is gonna be a trade back option, which is risky, not to mention they need more than just 1 guy on this line....they've just painted themselves into a corner on this...and I don't think it had to be like this...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

You should learn what "taking things out contexts" means. Who said Devin Thomas is a top receiver. You are operating under the assumption that whatever the reporter says is absolute fact, its an opinion that is taken out of context, we have more than 2 WR's on the roster DUDE!!!! Last time I check Santana is the only All Pro.

Posted by: MajorFacemask | April 6, 2010 8:29 AM


We can go back and forth on semantics all day, but what he wrote was the TOP TWO WRs. If the season were to start today, the likely starters at WR would be Moss and Thomas. Listing guys at the end of the depth chart that may or may not be here come September is pointless.

Trust me...dude WILL give you other stuff to nitpick.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 6, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I think that this is what the McNabb trade leads us to. The Skins have to get players on the team to help McNabb play at a high level, otherwise if the Skins fail to do so and McNabb struggles the FO would be open to criticism. In addition to a WR like Marshall, I really see them going to a vet LT before, or during the draft to protect McNabb and finding a swing tackle at some point on day2 or day 3 of the draft. On the Steelers D which players are the most dynamic playmakers...the two OLB and Troy P. Berry would really make a lot of sense in that reagard.

Posted by: TWISI | April 6, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Truly a sad day for me as a Skins fan, no doubt McNabb is an upgrade, but why throw JC away? If it true Shanahan likes to raise QBs, what happens to raising JC, unless Shanahan raising a QB is simply over-hyped!
Jason Campbell, from me to you, I hope you find peace and prosperity in your decision.
Mike Shanahan, remember you are with the Skins now, If we can boo Joe Gibbs and Mark Brunell, you better make sure Donavan pans out for you, because if he didn't, we will boo you, Donavan, and your son out of Washington!

Posted by: abxinc | April 6, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Commentberry

Posted by: _Stumped_ | April 6, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

The Vikings have a great roster up and down but guess what Tavaris Jackson can't lead them anywhere.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 6, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Flounder, we don't have nearly the talent level across the board as the Vikings do, wouldn't you at least agree there? So, with that in mind, that's where I'm wondering how a QB whose best days are probably behind him will help us get to an elite level?

Now, I know, I know, wait and see, right? And I will, but like BG said our options are limited. We have as of now one pick in the first 3 rounds, maybe we trade back and turn that into two picks. Maybe. Then next year as of now we have a first and a second, the 3rd might be gone. But anyway my point is, by the time we rebuild the roster, how old will McNabb be? 36? Will he still be an elite QB then?

Posted by: mattylight | April 6, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Truly a sad day for me as a Skins fan, no doubt McNabb is an upgrade, but why throw JC away? If its true Shanahan likes to raise QBs, what happens to raising JC, unless Shanahan raising a QB is simply over-hyped!
Jason Campbell, from me to you, I hope you find peace and prosperity in your decision.
Mike Shanahan, remember you are with the Skins now, If we can boo Joe Gibbs and Mark Brunell, you better make sure Donavan pans out for you, because if he didn't, we will boo you, Donavan, and your son out of Washington!

Posted by: abxinc | April 6, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

With the Redskins love affair w/ older players, maybe Brandon isn't the Marshall they're after. It might be Wilbur or Leonard or JIm Marshall...

Posted by: randysbailin | April 6, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

flounder21

"Yes, they have all those picks and without a QB you will see how far that gets them."


Well, they have both Mike Vick and Kevin Kolb.

Both of them together make a decent quarterback.

And it goes without saying they're better than T Jackson.

Thing is, they can take the 2nd rounder we gave them, draft, say, Dan LeFevour or Colt McCoy, and have a young guy to groom should either Vick or Kolb fail.

They come out on top no matter what happens.

The McNabb move smells too much like the J Taylor move.

And that one stunk, too.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

I don't mind trading down from 4 to 11 if we can get Marshall also. It makes sense. We get a super proven WR that can play and we still get a very good LT available at 11. If no one else wants to trade down, and all we can get is Marshall and still get a pick at 11, it would be a no-brainer!! We're not losing anything with this scenario.

I'm very curious to know how this all plays out on draft day. We have so many movable pieces. It's just going to be a question of who wants those pieces, and how badly they want em. I like the idea of trading Haynesworth to the Lions, but I'm not sure what we'd get in return. I love the draft, but it is the biggest crap shoot. Just because you take a guy in the 1st round doesn't mean that he'll even stay on the roster for the full year, let alone make a major impact on the team. The thing about Haynesworth is that most of his salary has already been paid already. He just got $21 million a week or two ago. Almost all of his salary has been paid, so why not keep him around? The dude can still play and play well... when he plays. The main problem with Haynesworth and Shanahan is that Haynesworth decided to work out on his own and not take part in OTAs. That is the only reason why you're even hearing trade rumors regarding him. No team would commit that much money to the guy and just give him $21 million, to just give him away if it wasn't for that...

Posted by: johntaylor2 | April 6, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

That the F.O. already has a feel for a trading partner to move down... I DO NOT think OKUNG will be available at 4... Detroit has signed three DL-men inthe off season and will move to protect Stafford with a LT.

Posted by: bschaef12 | April 6, 2010 7:43 AM |

Your not Mr. current affairs are you they traded for a LT yesterday they will not draft Okung.

Posted by: Flounder21


Flounder21... you're floundering as everyone else has pointed out... they traded for a G, not a T... oops! Remove the roe from your face... kidding... still think they will move to take an OT, the DL is too transparent, sorry.

Posted by: bschaef12 | April 6, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure that those fellas have a plan in place for many contingencies.
If Okung is there, I'd say it's a no brainer. If not, I'm sure they have several other directions.
If you McNabb trade haters think that a 6 time pro bowler can't lead the team and that he is injury prone, what do you think a wet behind the ears rookie, coming off shoulder surgery is gonna do?
Because if we didn't get McNabb, that's what you would have....or another year of, poor Jason...no line...too many different coordinators...blah, blah, frickin blah!
I for one, am happy that someone is being pro active in trying to get us some wins. Having a winning attitude will help alot and maybe give us a little swagger.
They will groom a young QB, don't worry. It will all work out and I won't have to hate Sunday afternoons anymore.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 6, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

going on record once again stating my displeasure with this trade for McNabb...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 8:12 AM


I'm still on the fence, Greg...I use the analogy of buying a car. If you get a nice deal on a pre-owned Mercedes (let's say, a $50k car marked down to $30k), it's all well and good...but if you've been doing some questionable spending and can't afford a $30k car at that time, then you shouldn't buy it. Especially if it's at the expense of paying the mortgage on your house.

Same with the Redskins. They spent picks questionably and it hurts when you have a great deal in front of you that you can't afford. But instead of playing it safe, they went out and spent picks anyway to get a guy at a position they didn't necessarily have to upgrade right away if you're truly rebuilding.

So I'm not so upset over getting McNabb as I am spending what we spent to get him. And if this move was made at the expense of building the line, then that's a MAJOR problem...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 6, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

It's interesting that Snyder thought AH was worth $100 million a year ago. Now they try to deal him and the Eagles refuse taking him, but accept a 2nd and a future 4th round pick. So the $100 million man is worth less than a 2nd and a 4th round pick?

Posted by: randysbailin | April 6, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

If you McNabb trade haters think that a 6 time pro bowler can't lead the team and that he is injury prone, what do you think a wet behind the ears rookie, coming off shoulder surgery is gonna do?

How about if the team drafted a T at #4, and a T at #37...what about that? I mean, not that they need a LT as well as a RT...oh wait...they do....

See, you build the LINES first, and everything else will fall into place....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

And I'll be really surprised if we get anything good back for JC17. The brass leaking it that we might keep him means nobody one wants him, or no one has put in a good offer for him...

Posted by: mattylight | April 6, 2010 8:24 AM
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The "brass leaking" is to retain JC's value and/or so somebody makes a deal, NOW, versus no Contract extension and he is released outright. Do you really want a 3+ million dollar back-up? Skins were actually competing against themselves when negotiating DM's trade value.. DM for a 2nd pushed JC down the scale to a 4th or 5th rnd pick.

Its got to be pis-sing off The Dan. Not even an offer of a 4th, so far, for a HUGE multi-pick and 5 year investment.
And the irony? The HC/GM in charge, now, is the same one who fleeced Dan and Joe back in 05 for the 3 picks, which became Cutler, B.Marshall, and Paymah.
Dan is probably thinking "you cant even make this shi-t up"

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 6, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

I am just gonna try and call for calm. This is not how most of us would build the team but its the new brain trusts call on building whatever team they want. Lets at least give them time to see if they know what they are doing.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 6, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

As a true Redskins fan (living in VA for 27 years} and now living in Minnesota now, I watched the whole Farve thing develop here and watching Vikings fans go from tolerating the former rival HOF QB come to town and by week 4 go absolutely crazy for this guy was insane. The culture change was a true bar for free agency. (remember how far we have come from the Wilber Marshall trade and what a big deal that was?) People at work could not wait to ask me how I felt about the trade. And I really did not Know how to answer. I grew up in Syracuse, NY. Which Made the whole thing even more weird for me as I cheered for him in collage, rooted against him twice a year, and now he's the starting QB for the Washington Redskins! If I see the same thing happen in Washington (on my Sunday ticket, Direct TV)as happened in Minneapolis, I'm all for it big time!( still think we need to get some OTs to make it real.

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 6, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

"...your enthusiasm for the oline, and thats gonna make/break the season/Mcnabb....I mean, they've placed/hedged their bets that Okung is gonna be there at #4..."


All we can assume at this point in the game is that what picks we have left will be devoted to offensive linemen.

And I know this is blasphemous, but how do we know C Foerster's coaching, a scheme change, and quicker quarterback decision-making won't solve some of the sack issues Campbell endured?


Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

yes, they will build the line,

but i also beleive that shanahan and allen also looked at countless amounts of tape and see that maybe capbell could of prevented a few of those sacks by having a quicker release.
i beleive they will do both - upgrade the line position AND i do beleive they have their eyes on marshall.
there is NO WAY the skins will not make another 3 moves.
skins are WHEELING AND DEALING

and i am excited.

go skins!

Posted by: ecartola | April 6, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

So the $100 million man is worth less than a 2nd and a 4th round pick?

Posted by: randysbailin | April 6, 2010 8:56 AM

I like the McNabb trade because, based on what I've heard and read, the ture difference between McNabb and JC is their ability to lead the team on the field. That being said, don't diminish the value of the 2nd and 3rd (if he stays healthy) pick that was given up for McNabb. It's the equivalent on a 1st round pick in value. That's why the deal was so attractive to the Eagles.

Posted by: TWISI | April 6, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

by the way,

some of you fans are PATHETIC

YOU HAVE NOT SEEN A QB THROW THE BALL LIKE MCNABB IN 20 YEARS

GET OVER IT HE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN CAMPBELL SO JUST STOP PLEASE GO AWAY

Posted by: ecartola | April 6, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Marshall is TO in sheep's clothing. BEWARE!

I wonder what McNabb thinks about this....

Posted by: boomer5 | April 6, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

See, you build the LINES first, and everything else will fall into place....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

They will build the line. If you and I know that....don't you think they do??
When you play poker, do you holler out what you have in your hand so everyone else can play accordingly?
Just have a little faith. This isn't the same group of idiots. They deserve the benefit of the doubt for a little while before we condemn them...especially before they even take the first snap.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 6, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

"As a true Redskins fan (living in VA for 27 years} and now living in Minnesota now,"

Wow...you left VA for Minnesota? Are you hiding from the authorities or in the witness protection program?

Posted by: westjr88 | April 6, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I definitely understand the skeptics regarding the trade. As first glance it does seem like "more of the same", a "re-run", "new boss/old boss".

I'm just going to hold judgement on the move as of right now. Because guess what: If it works out we'll all be happily happy and if it doesn't we'll all be pissy pissed.

I know I will for sure.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 6, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

"As a true Redskins fan (living in VA for 27 years} and now living in Minnesota now,"

Wow...you left VA for Minnesota? Are you hiding from the authorities or in the witness protection program?

Better Job... way better economic culture. Money goes a lot farther. better life!

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 6, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Better Job... way better economic culture. Money goes a lot farther. better life!

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 6, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I gotcha. Im sure its quieter, thats for sure.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 6, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Same with the Redskins. They spent picks questionably and it hurts when you have a great deal in front of you that you can't afford. But instead of playing it safe, they went out and spent picks anyway to get a guy at a position they didn't necessarily have to upgrade right away if you're truly rebuilding.

So I'm not so upset over getting McNabb as I am spending what we spent to get him. And if this move was made at the expense of building the line, then that's a MAJOR problem...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 6, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse
I agree with your statement, brownie. The key words are "if you're truly rebuilding." I think this is exciting, because apparently FO is not rebuilding, they are going out to win now. Not sure it will work, but somehow they will get the OT's that we need to win. I'm watching, and wondering. But after trading for DMN, I'm convinced that is the plan.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 6, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Even if the Skins draft Okung, the rest of the O-line still needs to be rebuilt. To this point all the moves and discussion has been around the bling players at the skill positions. Someone should send a memo out to Redskins Park that games are won and lost in the trenches....

Posted by: randysbailin | April 6, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Everything is going to be fine I trust the FO so far..

If we do aquire BM itz not that big of a deal only if we give away a player and next year pcik then we trade down and trade Cambell for a late 3rd or early 4th then we have about 7 draft picks thats enough to build the lines and address other needs..

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 6, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Actually, if we get Okung, and an RT in the draft or FA, then our line is set. Okung, Dockery, Rabach, BMW, and RT

Posted by: johntaylor2 | April 6, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Its got to be pis-sing off The Dan. Not even an offer of a 4th, so far, for a HUGE multi-pick and 5 year investment.
And the irony? The HC/GM in charge, now, is the same one who fleeced Dan and Joe back in 05 for the 3 picks, which became Cutler, B.Marshall, and Paymah.
Dan is probably thinking "you cant even make this shi-t up"
Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 6, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse
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Will the above facts plus the possibility that Shanahan/Allen may be shipping Haynesworth out with $32 million + for 12 games (Thanks Al) finally be enough to make Snyder look in the mirror and wonder what he's done?

Not unlike a degenerate gambler that returns home from Vegas busted and broken, he has got to see that he has wasted tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars in the last 11 years, not to mention the pathetic record and state of the team he turned over the the new regime.

Bringing in Shanahan to fix things, the man who more often than not was the "Blackjack Dealer" who lifted his wallet and his draft picks, must be hard.

I believe in Shanahan and Allen, and if you can just be patient I think you'll see more 2010 picks added for at least 3-5 players...AH, LL, CR, JC, maybe Carter should replenish some mid round selections.

This coupled with the purging of malcontents and contracts in the uncapped year should set us up to make a run at 8-8 this season, as well as give us a clean slate going forward under a new CBA with a huge pool of young UFAs next year.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 6, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I haven'tread all the posts, so maybe redundancy, but at some point we have to let LL,DT,MM and MKbe coached by real coaches in a real systym before we sendthem packing.They're too young to trade away yet.I was on board to give JC a chance this year, but can't match Mcknabb's huddle presence for the young receivers, moody RB's, quick release and grasp of the offense over the next 2 years.

Posted by: razor25 | April 6, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Wow...you left VA for Minnesota? Are you hiding from the authorities or in the witness protection program?

Posted by: westjr88 | April 6, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse
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Have you ever visited MN before? I know it's cold in the winter, but the twin cities are a great place- great music scene, restaurants etc. MN is also one of the most beautiful summer spots you'll see with the lakes and water sports they have.

Also, must say that overall they have more beautiful women per capita there than almost anywhere I've been.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 6, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Just a few points...
One, Can you imagine the morale in Redskins Nation if JC was the QB again this year? It was time for a change. Nothing against JC, but sometimes, a change is best for both...

Two, The choice in QB's was not between JC and DM. It was between DM and Colt McCoy! The choice is win now or maybe win later. Winning now always sounds kinda fun. It's nice to have something to be EXCITED about. I'm willing to give it a chance.

Three, there is still a top draft pick that could turn into a LT, or into a LT AND a RT!

Last, I'd rather have a bunch of hustling, medium paid guys who have "bought in" than guys like AH. It's called a TEAM! The Chief is now in charge, not the Indians! That's why Shanny and Allen let those 10 guys go on the first day... to get the attention of the rest of the players!

That's what a football coach is supposed to do!!

Things are looking up!

Posted by: mmck | April 6, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Also, must say that overall they have more beautiful women per capita there than almost anywhere I've been.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 6, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I have never been to MN but i'm sure its nice. I have seen "Grumpy Old Men" though.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 6, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Don't know if my last post got nixed because Imentioned a female dog complaining or not, but if we get Okung(which is looking more likely)or trade down and/or package JC/Carter(Jarmon is more than capable, we can get picks and have a v-good draft and off season. This blog is beginning to sound like we live in Philly with all of the complaining andnever being happy. I"m frustrated about the last few years too, but can't we at least wait til after the draft before we give up?

Posted by: razor25 | April 6, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Okung at #4 - END OF STORY

Marshall for D. Thomas and L. Landry (possible when Denver doesn't get that #1 pick for Marshall they are desperately hoping for)

Then on day 2 (rounds 4-7) focus on:

1) more O-Line - Tackles, Guards, Centers, anything with remote potential
2) ONE Safety to replace Landry (shouldn't be hard to find one who can cover better and showboat less)

No WR if we get Marshall; coach Kelly and Mitchell and maybe pick-up a pair of hungry undrafted WR and hungry washout WR to put some pressure on the back-ups

NO QB please.

*Trade Campbell for draft pick or picks; there are some teams he could still start on- San Fran, Oakland, Buffalo, Minnesota as insurance in case Favre actually retires, among others...the state of QBs in the NFL is sad when you really think about it. That is why I am a McNabb supporter; even if he is over the hill he is still arguably top 15, definitely a top 20 QB in this league (for anyone who argues otherwise I want a list of those 15 or 20 QBs currently better than McNabb).

Posted by: mcgratsp | April 6, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

NCAA Basketball National Champions:

Duke University

Get used to it!

Posted by: League-Source

Great game, both teams are good, Coach K is a great coach but the Dukies still get too many calls or in last nights case no call. Had Zubeck got his fifth foul on the play he through the big kid for Butler to the ground when Zubeck kicked the ball out he would have been gone, they would have been shooting freethrows and the game may have been tied or butler leading with a few seconds to play. He clearly threw the guy to the group with one hand and went after the ball with another but you dont make that call against coach K in a championship game if you ever want to ref any game of significance again. I am still mad about the fifth foul called on Lonnie Baxter in the 2001 final four. How can baxter get called for posting up Boozer? When the whistle was blown Carlos dropped his head because he thought the foul was on him for his fifth. Its not that they get all the calls, its when they get the calls. Your best guy always fouls out before their best guy does. Which gives a great team even more advantage. Kind of like how Notre Dame gets an extra down at the end of the game or the yankees get a clear double in the left field corner to be called foul. Other than that, Go Dukies!!!

Posted by: ged0386 | April 6, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

didnt we draft two 6 foot 4 guys. how about working with them and drafting a line. And has their been a big name free agent that JR did not include in an article regarding the skins being interested in? Lets see, there was Brett Farve, Peppers, T.O, Brandon Marshall, LT and we have LJ and Parker. Why dont he just save us time and say every big name free agent in the league the skins may be interested in.

Posted by: ged0386 | April 6, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

You all need to relax! I've been a 'Skins fan for 28 years and if you compare this team to the Terry Robiske team, it's no comparison!

1. Shanahan makes ANY running back look like Walter Payton.
2. Having a proven game-ready QB is worlds better than the utter confusion we had offensively this past year.
3. Plays like the fake FG down 24-0 on the last play of the first half against the Jints and the 4th & 2 sweep on the 3 yard line late in the year and the entire Falcons game in general are a thing of the past.
4. Is it just me or did Fat Albert miss every other play due to injury or lack of wind? Was it possibly he just wanted a new plate of nachos between plays?
5. Are we all watching the same team? I saw a team who for the first like 12 games could have won 10 of those games with an extra possession or without a BS pass interference penalty against the Lions. How about the fluke Saints game nonsense? This isn't a team that needs a total rebuild! All we needed was a field leader and NOT to have a moron for a head coach! We'll address the O Line in the draft and I'm pretty sure we're the team to beat in the NFC East!

Everyone needs to calm down and give the new regime a chance to do what they do. ANYTHING is better than this past year!

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

Posted by: Thedaddler | April 8, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

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