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Redskins' shot at a trade might hinge on defensive tackles in draft

The more we speak to sources around the league, the more intriguing one particular draft scenario seems to be.

While the Rams will dictate a lot with the first pick in Thursday night's opening round, the Redskins will also be keeping a close eye on the Lions at No. 2. I was skeptical of this theory several weeks ago, but it seems increasingly likely that the Lions will take Oklahoma State's Russell Okung at No. 2. That will mean that either Gerald McCoy or Ndamukong Suh will be available when the Redskins are on the clock with the fourth pick.

The Redskins might not need Suh or McCoy, but you can bet some other teams do.
If the draft went 1) Bradford, 2) Suh, 3) McCoy, the Redskins wouldn't likely be hearing from teams eager to move up to No. 4 in order to select Eric Berry or Jimmy Clausen.

But if one of those defensive tackles is still on the board, the Redskins might have a shot to move down and stockpile at least one more early-round pick in the process.
While many analysts like Okung, many others think Oklahoma's Trent Williams has more upside and long-term potential. So if Okung goes early, the Redskins could potentially move down and still get a left tackle they covet. Of course, the key is another team being so in love with one of the defensive tackles that they're willing to trade up. It's not exactly a scenario that anyone can bank on.

"In the recent years, there's not a lot of movement up there," Washington General Manager Bruce Allen said of the draft's top picks. "We are listening. The phones will be open. We have a listed phone number, in case someone wants to make a trade. But it's hard to project what's gonna happen."

Okung makes sense for the Lions. They could use a long-term solution to protect Matthew Stafford's blind side for years to come. And they could still address the defensive tackle position via trade. Detroit still seems like a possible landing spot for Albert Haynesworth, should the Redskins' defensive tackle find himself getting traded this week.

Looking back ...

Dan Steinberg was listening when Vinny Cerrato looked back at past Redskins drafts Monday and has the details at the D.C. Sports Bog.

Looking forward ...

Is Sam Bradford a slam-dunk for the No. 1 pick? Is there a smarter way for the Rams to go? The League is asking.

By Rick Maese  |  April 20, 2010; 12:45 PM ET
Categories:  Bruce Allen , NFL Draft  
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Comments

Hmm, this seems to contradict with Greg's post from earlier.

RACE WAR!! RACE WAR!!

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 20, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

For some reason people also seem to forget that C. McCoy is the all time winningest college QB in NCAA history. I guess its cause the Tebow shadow cast upon CFB the last few years.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"The Redskins might not need Suh or McCoy, but you can bet some other teams do."--

Yes the redskins do need Suh, every team needs a talent like this on the D-line. There are few poeple that come into the league with such size, talent, and accolades. Suh is as close to a sure thing as it gets in a position that is in constant demand.
On ESPn they were doing the 'Sports Science' segment measuring some of the draftees. Suh had the highest measured hit they had ever recorded. The host said they normally correlate the hits to car crashes for Suh they said it was more like a freight train collision!!!

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Hi everyone, I am a new "commentor" on Redskins Insider. I am always on here reading post, but have never commented. So I have decided today to start being an avid commentor.

I am a 17 year old Die Hard Skins fan.
I made up the name "Roccoskins" by combining (Rock-on-Skins). I plan to make that the name of my buisness one day.

So now you know me!!!

Just to catch up. I love everything B. Allen and Shanny has done this offseason. Can't wait for the draft...and I am not sure on my opinion of T.O. I have never been a fan of his, but idk, I have been a guy that has compared Devin Thomas to a T.O type player (minus the locker room cancer). So maybe he helps a Devin Thomas out...But I really want to see Malcolm and Devin become playmakers.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The Lions are taking Suh so come up with another theory please.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

On ESPn they were doing the 'Sports Science' segment measuring some of the draftees. Suh had the highest measured hit they had ever recorded. The host said they normally correlate the hits to car crashes for Suh they said it was more like a freight train collision!!!
Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 12:59 PM |

Doesn’t that NOT bode well for the guy’s future? If he’s doing that to his opponents, then his body has to absorb that much force as well…..he could end up being like Mike Webster by the time he’s 45 (big time dementia). Although I seem to recall that Webster may have done a lot of roids…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 20, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

For some reason people also seem to forget that C. McCoy is the all time winningest college QB in NCAA history. I guess its cause the Tebow shadow cast upon CFB the last few years.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse
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your point or theory suffers when you consider that Jason Campbell, at Auburn, was also one of the winningest QBs. I think he was undefeated his Sr year.

Not hating.. but, just saying.. Its takes a team.. and college W-L isnt the predicator of success in the NFL> By that same token, the Skins had nearly the worst W-L record in the NFL however, Jason's stats fell in the middle of the pack.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:00 PM

welcome to the jungle roccoskins. watch out for monkeys and other turd flinging animals, you'll be fine.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"I guess its cause the Tebow shadow cast upon CFB the last few years."

A Heisman trophy, and a couple of National Championships will do that.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

The Lions are taking Suh so come up with another theory please.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 1:02 PM
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good, if true... Suh has a chance of being the Mike Williams pick of 2002 (Buffalo # 4 overall).
Trent is a better fit for the Skins.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

welcome to the jungle roccoskins. watch out for monkeys and other turd flinging animals, you'll be fine.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 1:07 PM
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Lol, will do.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

good, if true... Suh has a chance of being the Mike Williams pick of 2002 (Buffalo # 4 overall).
Trent is a better fit for the Skins.


Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 1:11 PM |

Every pick has that chance including Okung, there are no guarantees in the draft ever.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

If they can't trade down then

a. take suh and have a kick butt 4-3 dline of Carter, Suh, AH , Orakpo or

b. take trent williams and solidify the wretched o-line

b makes more sense but I'd be ok with a.

Posted by: skinswest | April 20, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Every pick has that chance including Okung, there are no guarantees in the draft ever.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 1:16 PM

even Cow Sense beef management software can't predict what will happen... 95% credibility intervals on the Bayesian posterior distributions are simply too diffuse.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I was half-hoping someone was adopting the name rococoskins, just because, you know, what the hell would that even mean? A dramatic remodeling of the interior design at the Park? A bunch of whimsical little sculptural and paint details added to the concourses at FedEx?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 20, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

But that aside, welcome, roccoskins, and as the fellow above mooed, hang on to your hat.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 20, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

the skins are going to pull a "2000".. go back and check for yourself... not a lot of picks in that draft...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | April 20, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

good, if true... Suh has a chance of being the Mike Williams pick of 2002 (Buffalo # 4 overall).
Trent is a better fit for the Skins.


Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 1:11 PM |

Every pick has that chance including Okung, there are no guarantees in the draft ever.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 1:16 PM
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brain fart.. I meant to say Okung vs Suh.. but you're right, either way.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:00 PM

welcome to the jungle roccoskins. watch out for monkeys and other turd flinging animals, you'll be fine.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Would you be referring to PoopyMcPoop?

Is he still posting?

Posted by: Devo2 | April 20, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

But that aside, welcome, roccoskins, and as the fellow above mooed, hang on to your hat.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 20, 2010 1:24 PM
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"roccoskins" sounds like an anonymous handle an Italian American like "Vinny Cerrato" would select.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

But that aside, welcome, roccoskins, and as the fellow above mooed, hang on to your hat.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 20, 2010 1:24 PM |

Lol, thanks man.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Like said earlier. You don't pass on Suh. I'm pretty sure we can fund room for him and let him and AH torment offenses for years to come. Our Coaches would glady take him at 4. As long as we are taking a lineman O or D, I'm all for it.

Posted by: ryan_conaway | April 20, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Like said earlier. You don't pass on Suh. I'm pretty sure we can find room for him and let him and AH tourment offenses for years to come. Our Coaches would glady take him at 4. As long as we are taking a lineman O or D, I'm all for it.

Posted by: ryan_conaway | April 20, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"...take trent williams and solidify the wretched o-line.."


Imagine if they trade down to 9 with the bills, take Williams, get another pick, and trade AH, get, say, a 2nd rounder, and add another tackle in that round.

This might be the optimum move scenario.

The trade of AH scenario--which smart people are against--seems likely now that the team has added to the depth at the defensive tackle spot on the roster.

Trading AH as apart of, say, with the lions or titans opens up a lot of possibilities in the 2nd and 3rd round.

Thing is, unlike before, the added depth of at the position means you might be able to delay replacing AH should you move him for picks.

You could invest the picks on another lineman or inside linebacker or free safety.

You come out ahead.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Signing TO might not be a bad idea.

He had a horrific season with the Bills, so presumably that + aging may have humbled him a bit. It's not like his phone is ringing off the hook with big money offers.

Sign him (cheap), and if it turns out he has nothing left, cut him in the summer.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 20, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Would you be referring to PoopyMcPoop?

Is he still posting?

Posted by: Devo2 | April 20, 2010 1:28 PM

monkeys everwhere! make it stop! (curls into the bovine fetal position and ruminates)

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

already cracked 40 gallons on the way to a 55 gallon bender. hooves are blunt instruments on QWERTY keyboards. how 'bout those 'skins?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Dhaze1, no that does bode well for his future. It means he will get paid like he should. He shouldn't hit people to his best ability???

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"roccoskins" sounds like an anonymous handle an Italian American like "Vinny Cerrato" would select.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 1:30 PM

Rocco was the name that Jasno selected for his young sprout. I can't believe the boy is 17 already and posting on RI.

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

As a football fan it would be fun to see Haynesworth with the Colts, Giants, or Saints. The Saints would get even more turnovers than last year. Can't even imagine the passrush that Freeney, Mathis and Haynesworth would generate. And the Giants d-line would become ferocious again. Peyton Manning would probably win 2 more superbowls with the additional offensive possessions that Haynesworth would give to the Colt offense.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 20, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Even if Okung is gone, meaning either Suh or Mccoy are available, that still leaves Williams. I really do not think we'll take Suh or Mccoy... unless of course we unload BFA. Without Haynesworth we do have a hole in our dline and then I could see us picking up one of the rookie DTS... then we could use whatever pick we got for Hayneswoth (at WORST a high 2nd rounder/ anything less wouldn't be worth it) we could go OT and get our LT... i guess....

Still not ideal but I could see that happening that way, but unless we get more picks I really do not see us passing up either Okung or Williams if we use the 4th pick.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 20, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Why wouldn't a team interested in Clausen or Okung be willing to trade up with us? Clausen could be coveted by any one of Seattle, Cleveland, or Buffalo. If you wanted a near-sure shot at drafting him, you'd have to jump ahead. Likewise with Okung, who doesn't seem to be likely to fall past the Seahawks at the latest. Even Eric Berry has been linked to the Chiefs, so anybody wanting him might have to jump them.

I don't see how Suh/McCoy are the only shots at trading back. The #4 spot looks to be wide open right now.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Dhaze1, no that does bode well for his future. It means he will get paid like he should. He shouldn't hit people to his best ability???
Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 1:38 PM

No, I’m not saying anything like that…..just kind of wondering out loud, when I read about equating his hits to those of car/train crashes. That’s a whole can of worms though. I would love for the skins to get a guy like that……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 20, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

But that aside, welcome, roccoskins, and as the fellow above mooed, hang on to your hat.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 20, 2010 1:24 PM |

Lol, thanks man.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

You have no idea what your'e in for - can we please have your e-mail address, so that BeantownGreg can send you your new member bonus points?

By the way, how do you feel about disaster relief aircraft carriers?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 20, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

"Rocco was the name that Jasno selected for his young sprout. I can't believe the boy is 17 already and posting on RI..."


The kid is a junior in high school if he's 17.

So, what, no one teaches, they just let kids post all day or play hooky, smokeout, and eat cookies?

Man, I wish I was back in school.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"roccoskins" sounds like an anonymous handle an Italian American like "Vinny Cerrato" would select.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 1:30 PM

Rocco was the name that Jasno selected for his young sprout. I can't believe the boy is 17 already and posting on RI.

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 1:39 PM
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Lol!!! Guys, its just a name I made up a couple years ago. Its different and "out of the box." No one else has the name and thats why I like it. Its just a quick way to say Rock on Skins

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Lions just got Shanny's boy Scheffler. Not saying I'm advocating this but maybe Shanny trades AH to Det for Scheff and their second round pick. And maybe we send Cooley or Davis to someone else for picks.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 20, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Would you be referring to PoopyMcPoop?

Is he still posting?

Posted by: Devo2 | April 20, 2010 1:28 PM

monkeys everwhere! make it stop! (curls into the bovine fetal position and ruminates)

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 1:33 PM
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fan reaction after Goodall announces the Skins selection with the number 4 pick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAgEgEda12c

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I am a 17 year old Die Hard Skins fan.
I made up the name "Roccoskins" by combining (Rock-on-Skins). I plan to make that the name of my buisness one day.
Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:00 PM

Hey Jr. Are you sure you are 17? If you are, what is a 17 yr old doing on IR at 1PM? Aren't you supposed to be in some high school class room? Plus, the way you blog doesn't sound like a 17yr old in the present day US educational system! Oops! sorry, my bad!

Posted by: abxinc | April 20, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

So the titans and lions come calling this Friday with a desire to trade for Prince Al for picks you can use this weekend.

Here's what they have (from the NFL.COM site):

Lions
Round 1, Pick 2 (2)
Round 2, Pick 2 (34)
Round 3, Pick 2 (66)
Round 4, Pick 2 (100)
Round 7, Pick 6 (213) (From Seahawks)
Round 7, Pick 7 (214) (From Browns)
Round 7, Pick 13 (220) (From Broncos)
Round 7, Pick 48 (255) (Compensatory selection)


Titans
Round 1, Pick 16 (16)
Round 3, Pick 13 (77)
Round 3, Pick 33 (97) (Compensatory selection)
Round 4, Pick 13 (111)
Round 5, Pick 17 (148)
Round 6, Pick 16 (185)
Round 6, Pick 38 (207) (Compensatory selection)
Round 7, Pick 15 (222)
Round 7, Pick 34 (241) (Compensatory selection)

I'd roll with the titans.

(Unless the Lions want to give up their 2nd and 3rd rounders.)

I'd want the 3rd rounder (13th pick) and pick 13 in round 4.

That gives me 1, 3, 4,4,5,7.

Is moving AH worth it for that kind of return, a 3rd and 4th?

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

So, what, no one teaches, they just let kids post all day or play hooky, smokeout, and eat cookies?

Man, I wish I was back in school.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking the same thing.. Happy 4/20 Moe!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

fan reaction after Goodall announces the Skins selection with the number 4 pick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAgEgEda12c

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 1:48 PM

MOL.... really want Okung or Williams, but Cow Sense software has now crashed and the vendor is unresponsive.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Lions trade for Haynesworth
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2010 1:43 PM ET
The Detroit Lions have reached an agreement with the Washington Redskins to exchange their 2nd round pick this year, as well as what could be a 3rd round pick next year, in return they're getting disgruntled defensive tackle, Albert Haynesworth. More details to follow.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

McNabb source denies push for Owens

By GEOFF MOSHER
Twitter: @geoffmosher

Donovan McNabb is not lobbying Redskins officials to bring in wide Terrell Owens, a reliable source close to the situation told Wing Tips on Tuesday afternoon in the aftermath of an ESPN report that the former Eagles quarterback is hoping to reunite with the former estranged Eagles receiver in the nation’s capital.

The source admitted that McNabb and Owens have become friendly since patching up their highly public fued as Eagles in 2005 – they appeared as basketball teammates in a recent Pros vs. Joes episode filming – but they aren’t close friends and McNabb hasn’t advised new Redskins coach Mike Shanahan to sign Owens, one of the top receivers on the free-agent market, despite the Redskins’ need for an upgrade at wide receiver.

“Believe me, Donovan is not petitioning for anybody,” the source said.

The source speculated that if the Redskins were to approach McNabb about signing Owens, McNabb wouldn’t have a problem endorsing the move, but in no way has McNabb pushed or Shanahan or the front office into making any personnel moves. McNabb is still getting acclimated to his new environment after spending his first 11 seasons in Philadelphia, which drafted him No. 2 overall in 1999, the source added.

“I’m sure they would like his opinion and it would be solid, but he’s not petitioning,” the source said. “He’s not going in and actively doing anything at this point and time. It’s amazing how Donovan gets dragged into this because they played a baskbetall game together.”


http://blogs.delawareonline.com/eagles/2010/04/20/mcnabb-source-denies-push-for-owens/

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 20, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

So, what, no one teaches, they just let kids post all day or play hooky, smokeout, and eat cookies?

Man, I wish I was back in school.

Posted by: MistaMoe |

You forget Moe, it is 4/20. Lots of hooky goin on today.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 20, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Rookie gets hooked in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

The kid is a junior in high school if he's 17.

So, what, no one teaches, they just let kids post all day or play hooky, smokeout, and eat cookies?

Man, I wish I was back in school.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 1:45 PM
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I attend a online homeschooling program. I use to attend Wise High School, but I am traveling a lot now, becuase I am pursuing an acting/singing career.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Knowing they could get Okung at the 4th, and possibly wanting Haynesworth, maybe Detroit would be willing to swap picks, and give us a second or third rounder, and maybe a late round pick. We could take Suh or Mccoy with the second, and draft an OL with our second pick.

Posted by: segastyle | April 20, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I say we take Suh if he is available.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | April 20, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I was just rather surprised by the hosts amazement at Suh. The show its self is normally pretty cool and I was impressed when they said he measured a more impactful hit then anyone they had ever tested, I remember seeing one with Ray Lewis. Anyways good thing for Suh is he will be landing on squishy QBs so he should be ok. We would be very lucky to end up with him.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I attend a online homeschooling program. I use to attend Wise High School, but I am traveling a lot now, becuase I am pursuing an acting/singing career.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute.. is this Justin Bieber!?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

By the way, how do you feel about disaster relief aircraft carriers?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 20, 2010 1:43 PM

This is a real cheap shot, and just shows that you don't recognize out-of-the box brilliance. As we speak, the British have mobilized a disaster relief aircraft carrier, HMS Ark Royal, to rescue up to 200,000 thousand Britons who have been stranded in Europe. Here's a picture of the Ark Royal and the full story:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/19/iceland-volcano-naval-ships-rescue

If you scroll down a few screens you'll find this little tidbit: "Prime Minister Gordon Brown got the idea and received widespread praise when he floated it as a trial balloon on the website 'Redskins Insider' where he is known as zcezcest."

Hats off to Zeke for a job well done!

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I attend a online homeschooling program. I use to attend Wise High School, but I am traveling a lot now, becuase I am pursuing an acting/singing career.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute.. is this Justin Bieber!?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 2:00 PM |
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HAHAHAA!!!! No!!! I would love to have sucess like him though.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Wise is a PG County school in Upper Marlboro. Not too many Justin Biebers attend classes there.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

"I attend a online homeschooling program. I use to attend Wise High School, but I am traveling a lot now, becuase I am pursuing an acting/singing career."

Pursuing an acting, singing career?

OMG!!!: It's Justin Beiber.

(INSERT image of Moe squealing like an air-headed 13 year old girl.)

And he's a redskins' fan!

Can I have your autograph?

I don't own any of your music, so don't ask me what's my favorite song.

I do promise to steal your cd off the internet once it drops.

And once you get rich and famous, I give you total permission to impregnant one of or all of my three daughters so I can sue for child suport and live like a king off your misdeeds.

Why?: 'cuz that's the American way!

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Lions trade for Haynesworth
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2010 1:43 PM ET
The Detroit Lions have reached an agreement with the Washington Redskins to exchange their 2nd round pick this year, as well as what could be a 3rd round pick next year, in return they're getting disgruntled defensive tackle, Albert Haynesworth. More details to follow.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Link?

Posted by: BugEyes | April 20, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

BG, hooks another one.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

There are scenarios which might allow the Skins to trade, but they get tricky quickly. The trade for McNabb means the Skins don't pick again until round 4. Our need for an OT is enormous -- we really need 2 OTs, probably a RG and our C wasn't exactly dominating.

As much as I like having a beast in the middle of the DL, Suh isn't our guy if it means we need to wait another year for OL help.

fwiw, I've always thought the Lions would be smart to protect their nearly $50mil investment in Stafford. Maybe Suh is just so good they can't pass him up. Don't know. But if I was DET, I'd have assessed OT as my biggest need.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Rookie gets hooked in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 20, 2010 1:56 PM

LOL, it wasn't THE rookie, but close enough...

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 20, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

BG, hooks another one.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 2:11 PM

more like a nibble... but the previous was a rococo style masterpiece.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Rocco was the name that Jasno selected for his young sprout. I can't believe the boy is 17 already and posting on RI.

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

You age quickly when your dad is from Uranus and does interviews with a smirk because he just soiled himself.

Posted by: duh2mag | April 20, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

bug, not that technically proficient, I just copied and pasted it from PFT....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Link?

Posted by: BugEyes | April 20, 2010 2:08 PM |

BG's posts are guaranteed accurate. He's one of the few bloggers where links aren't necessary.

Posted by: TWISI | April 20, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

we really need 2 OTs, probably a RG and our C wasn't exactly dominating.

As much as I like having a beast in the middle of the DL, Suh isn't our guy if it means we need to wait another year for OL help.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse
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I'm curious what happens in practice if they take Suh. That means Heyer, Dockery, Rabach, BMW, and Artis Hicks get to block Carter, Suh, Haynesworth, and Orakpo. Hope DMac has his red shirt on...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 20, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Why wouldn't a team interested in Clausen or Okung be willing to trade up with us? Clausen could be coveted by any one of Seattle, Cleveland, or Buffalo. If you wanted a near-sure shot at drafting him, you'd have to jump ahead. Likewise with Okung, who doesn't seem to be likely to fall past the Seahawks at the latest. Even Eric Berry has been linked to the Chiefs, so anybody wanting him might have to jump them.

I don't see how Suh/McCoy are the only shots at trading back. The #4 spot looks to be wide open right now.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 1:41 PM
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the seahawks trade and signed charlie whitehurst to big money ( 2 yrs 10 million)... the browns are content w/ delhomme and wallace until next years drat... the bills would be the only logical choice but they are cheap skates...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | April 20, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

twis, thanks, means a lot.

cats like ls, and lh, who question my validity, just piss me off...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Interesting piece on Toby Gearhart.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-gerhartstereotype042010

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I read this too. I thought it was a good article.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 20, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

"I'm curious what happens in practice if they take Suh."


Be careful about that, Suh might be another Glenn Dorsey.

I'd druther have McCoy or T Cody.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Signing a bunch of no name DLs does not = adding depth

We proved that last year with the O line

Reality check - our O line does NOT feature Levi Jones anymore, so far, making them LESS talented than last year

Reality check - still no extension for mcnabb, one and done?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 20, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Bears will play Bills in Canada in November
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2010 1:43 PM ET


Bull-crappola! Nowhere to be found. Here is the link.....no Haynesworth trade.

Posted by: duh2mag | April 20, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Lions draft Okung at #2 overall
Then trade their 2nd round pick to Skins for AH.

With Suh available at #4 overall, Skins trade down and pick up two 1st round picks.

With 1st #1 pick, best avail LT
With 2nd #1 pick, best avail 3-4 DT
With 2nd round pick, best avail RT

Posted by: jgarrisn | April 20, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Looking back ...

Dan Steinberg was listening when Vinny Cerrato looked back at past Redskins drafts Monday and has the details at the D.C. Sports Bog.


I read the post on D.C> Sports Blog. Makes me feel even better that VC is gone. How in the world could they have been thinking about drafting Crabtree last year? Complete idiot.

Posted by: TWISI | April 20, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Homeschooling sounds awful... going to school sucks but at least you have other kids there to screw around with and what not... the idea of taking some online classes in your own home, by yourself, sounds extremely painful and boring. I guess you have class or something but always at home and with your family at age 17 doesn't sound like the best way to enjoy your childhood.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 20, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/


Beantown Greg; you got my hopes up for nothing. Your next post will tell us JCampbell was traded for Ram's #1?

Posted by: duh2mag | April 20, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

LH, I think he meant he used to study at Mike Wise High School, but I heard that place lost its accreditation.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 20, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

duh, it was there, not sure what happened with it, I just copied and pasted it....maybe PFT jumped the gun on this one, ala, Terry Bradshaw is deceased.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

The Skins will not trade Fat Albert to the Lions. If they did, the Lions take the LT that Washington covets and screws up all their draft plans. I doubt they will find appropriate compensation for the big lazy man. We are stuck with him, but he might be in better shape after running all those laps for double parking, rustling the chip bag during meetings and needing a siesta @ 3pm.

Posted by: scoot21 | April 20, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Wise is a PG County school in Upper Marlboro. Not too many Justin Biebers attend classes there.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 2:06 PM
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Exactly. I am not Justin Bieber, I am not even a fan of his (although that "Baby" song is pretty catchy)

Wise High preforming arts center is really good. I learned a lot. However, other than music, the school is horrible. I have gone to both private and public schools in PG County my whole life, and they don't teach like they should anymore. So the Online Homeschool thing is much better. Plus it gives me the chance to travel and meet some people in the industry to help jumpstart my career.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Two on one hook. Untold numbers have probably googled the story and just aren't saying anything.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Reality check - still no extension for mcnabb, one and done?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 20, 2010 2:24 PM
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dont believe the extension can be contractually executed until June.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 20, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

duh, it was there, not sure what happened with it, I just copied and pasted it....maybe PFT jumped the gun on this one, ala, Terry Bradshaw is deceased.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

No worries! I hope they can send him to NFL purgatory.

Posted by: duh2mag | April 20, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Suh will not fall to 4. McCoy might.

I'd love to trade back to get Trent Williams and pick up a 2nd. Then trade Haynesworth to Detroit for another 2nd. Or a 3rd this year and a 3rd next year, however the "draft math" works out.

Posted by: lordtwang | April 20, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't care who they pick just as long as it has an LT after his name...unless it's CJ Spiller!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 20, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Online Homeschool thing is much better. Plus it gives me the chance to travel and meet some people in the industry to help jumpstart my career.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 2:29 PM

try moving to LA... now that's a real monkey house. fun times and good memories, but also have a love-hate relationship with that town. plus no NFL team.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Two trades happened in the past couple days that are the sort I'd have liked to see us make.

Both were trades for 5th round picks. ernie sims to philly, Ted Ginn to SF.

Anytime I can trade a 5th round pick and solve a problem, I'm doing it.

We need a return guy -- Ginn is good and he's young. We only have 2 proven LBs on our roster, and one is already up there in years. sims is 26(?), a starter and a 100+ tackle/year guy.

The 5th round pick ... a low probability carp shoot.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Homeschooling sounds awful... going to school sucks but at least you have other kids there to screw around with and what not... the idea of taking some online classes in your own home, by yourself, sounds extremely painful and boring. I guess you have class or something but always at home and with your family at age 17 doesn't sound like the best way to enjoy your childhood.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 20, 2010 2:26 PM |
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Its really not, when you are doing something outside of school work. I am rarely home, and around people all the time. Becuase I am working on a acting/singing career.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

For Old School Hip Hop Heads:
By Sarah Godfrey

Guru, one half of seminal hip-hop group Gang Starr, passed away after a battle with cancer on Monday.



Dead at 43.

One of the best rappers nobody talks about.

Bro' was intelligent, lyrics on point, clear flow, thoughtful, and he and Premier always alced nice tracks.

And to think I been listening to "Mass Appeal," "Code of the Streets," "Flip da Scrip," and "B.Y.S." all month.

R.I.P.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

at this point in his contract haynesworth is WAY cheaper than Suh or McCoy would be cause signing bonuses

IMO anything but an OT would just be stu PID.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 20, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

try moving to LA... now that's a real monkey house. fun times and good memories, but also have a love-hate relationship with that town. plus no NFL team.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 2:36 PM |
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Its a bit too far from home. I have to travel there in July. However, I would much rather like to stay on this side of the world. I will always and forever be a Redskins Fan though.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Guru, one half of seminal hip-hop group Gang Starr, passed away after a battle with cancer on Monday.

Dead at 43.

One of the best rappers nobody talks about.

Bro' was intelligent, lyrics on point, clear flow, thoughtful, and he and Premier always alced nice tracks.

And to think I been listening to "Mass Appeal," "Code of the Streets," "Flip da Scrip," and "B.Y.S." all month.

R.I.P.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse


NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Gangstarr has got to be the sureshot!!!

Jazzmatazz, that is a good album!

Its the voice that gets you up--

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | April 20, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The 5th round pick ... a low probability carp shoot.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 2:37 PM

carp shooting is actually fun stuff:

http://www.amsbowfishing.com/information.php?info_id=7

http://www.prairiestateoutdoors.com/images/uploads/Brackett_carp.bmp

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse


Michael Lombardi, of the National Football Post, reports the New York Jets are actively shopping OG Alan Faneca and will likely waive him following the NFL Draft.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 20, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Suh will not fall to 4. McCoy might.

I'd love to trade back to get Trent Williams and pick up a 2nd. Then trade Haynesworth to Detroit for another 2nd. Or a 3rd this year and a 3rd next year, however the "draft math" works out.

Posted by: lordtwang | April 20, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

If anybody falls it will be Suh..The Bucs are going to take McCoy irregardlevent if Suh is there or not. Soooo it could look something like

Bradford
Okung
McCoy
?? Trade back or Williams

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Trade picks for McNabb, talk about picking up TO, drafting yet another QB.... the only thing missing is bringing back Deion Sanders.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm not impressed so far. It looks a lot like Vinny stuff to me.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Hi everyone, I am a new "commentor" on Redskins Insider. ...

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 1:00 PM

Welcome up here.

Does anyone up here have Schefter's twitter feed? I was at a restaraunt at lunch and the TV was turned down, but it had ESPN, Schefter's head, and lots of T.O. clips.

Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse


NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Gangstarr has got to be the sureshot!!!

Jazzmatazz, that is a good album!

Its the voice that gets you up--

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | April 20, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Was going to say, don't forget DWYCK.. Ft. Nice and Smooth

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

In the 5th round we draft Ed Wang OT out of Virginia Tech

Posted by: LoyalOpposition1 | April 20, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

The Skins will not trade Fat Albert to the Lions. If they did, the Lions take the LT that Washington covets and screws up all their draft plans.

Posted by: scoot21 | April 20, 2010 2:28 PM

If the Skins made a deal with the Lions for AH part of the deal might include swapping the 4th and 2nd pick to avoid just such a scenario.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 20, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

If you think about it, why wouldn't the Lions trade a second rounder for AH92 and a swap of 1st round picks with the Skins if their biggest needs are DT and OL? They could use the 4th overall to get whichever of the top 2 OTs is still on the board and would be getting a superstar DT for their second who is a whole lot more of a known quantity than anyone they could pick in Rd 2. And with his restructed contract, AH is not even that outrageously expensive over the next three years.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 20, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone up here have Schefter's twitter feed? I was at a restaraunt at lunch and the TV was turned down, but it had ESPN, Schefter's head, and lots of T.O. clips.


Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse


I have a feeling about this Scheffler and Det second round pick for AH. Then we trade either Cooley or Davis for a pick. Tony is familiar with Shanahan and might have been requested by Shanahan to seal an AH trade. It's fun to speculate. This is one of the best times of the year.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 20, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Its a bit too far from home. I have to travel there in July. However, I would much rather like to stay on this side of the world. I will always and forever be a Redskins Fan though.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 2:44 PM

No sweat. There's lots of good dinner theater here in the area.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 20, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Here is my reason why I don't like us getting a big name veteran WR. I think Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly have good potential. Not to mention the fan favorite Marko Mitchell. I would love D. McNabb do to Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly, they way Brett Farve made a (3rd year WR.) Sidney Rice one of the better WR in the game. It seemed like when Devin and Malcolm were in the game they were not trusted by Jason Campbell. So he never threw them the ball.

The same thing with Sidney Rice, he said it himself. Brett Farve built his confidence by trusting him, and utilizing his size.

Malcolm Kelly can be a Andre Johnson type in this system. And I have said it numerous of times before...Devin Thomas reminds me of a T.O (minus the locker room cancer). So I think if we bring in another guy, especailly a big name like T.O. Then I think we really hurt the development of D. Thomas and M.Kelly.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 2:38 PM

Moe - didn't he do a few songs with Dilated Peoples? Those were some good tunes...

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 20, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Question, is the #33 pick more valuable than the #32 pick?

Whatever is done with the #32 pick has to be done quickly. But there are 15 hours or so to work with between the #32 and #33 pick.

The #33 pick is going to attract a lot of attention ... and there will be adequate time to make deals.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Rocco,

Welcome. Arts School. Oy Vey. I'm a Univ. of Miami Music School grad (geetar). Go to the big markets. That's where your opportunity will be as a performer. If you're looking at production, there are other possibilities. If your spanish is good, Miami is eh.. alright. But LA or NYC are prolly your only legit options. Once you break, you have other choices.

Rok rok AUN!

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 20, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Trade picks for McNabb, talk about picking up TO, drafting yet another QB.... the only thing missing is bringing back Deion Sanders.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm not impressed so far. It looks a lot like Vinny stuff to me.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I agree with this. If you saw these offseasons moves w/o any of the FO names attached to them this would look like a business as usual dannyboy and the skins offseason chamionship year.
I just keep telling my self we are in good hands Shanallenahan know whats they're doing...

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"Words I Manifest" could be RI's unofficial theme song.

I go for glory, I take an inventory
Countin all the tough luck ducks while I narrate
Relate and equate, dictate and debate
My fate is to be, cold makin history
I use sincerity, but I'm so very deep
Doubts are questions, of all the skeptics
I'm kickin clout and, I'll leave you vexed

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"...of the National Football Post, reports the New York Jets are actively shopping OG Alan Faneca and will likely waive him following the NFL Draft."

Faneca plays left guard.

Dockery plays left guard.

Switching one out for another sounds like a sideways move.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I like big boy outta Maryland but he's a bit of a headcase. He's mean and nasty enough to slap somebody and we need some toughness.

Posted by: kahlua87 | April 20, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I don't think I would lump Malcolm Kelly in with Andre Johnson but get your point. They have to see what these guys have in games. If they can't do it this year it will be time to cut the losses. Fred Davis looked like a complete bust until Cooley went down. Maybe with an accomplised QB both Thomas and Kelly break out. Or hopefully at least one does.

As far as complaining about bringing in TO or drafting a QB at 4, these things have not happened. Quit getting your panties in a bunch about things put out by the lying or uninformed media.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | April 20, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Trade picks for McNabb, talk about picking up TO, drafting yet another QB.... the only thing missing is bringing back Deion Sanders.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm not impressed so far. It looks a lot like Vinny stuff to me.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I agree with this. If you saw these offseasons moves w/o any of the FO names attached to them this would look like a business as usual dannyboy and the skins offseason chamionship year.
I just keep telling my self we are in good hands Shanallenahan know whats they're doing...

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse


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Two of those things haven't happened.

So purely based on a trade for McNabb, Shanahan = Cerrato?

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Trade picks for McNabb, talk about picking up TO, drafting yet another QB.... the only thing missing is bringing back Deion Sanders.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm not impressed so far. It looks a lot like Vinny stuff to me.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse


Totally agree with this

Posted by: jm220 | April 20, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Shefter just said on the draft special that the Rams are trading Adam Carriker to the Redskins, but he's not sure for who or what. He said it's definatley not for AH.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

just heard on espn we traded for adam carriker from STL

Posted by: follybeach | April 20, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Just saw on ESPN that supposedly the 'SKins traded for Adam Carriker.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | April 20, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Skins add Adam Carriker...

You heard it here

Posted by: SoothSayer26 | April 20, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

FANECA, DOCKERY, and HICKS with EDWIN WILLIAMS and MIKE WILLIAMS would set us great at both guard positions. Wait till the draft is over and see if FANECA is cut.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 20, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

lol, looks like I'm not the only one that has ESPN on right now.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | April 20, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

"Trade picks for McNabb, talk about picking up TO, drafting yet another QB.... the only thing missing is bringing back Deion Sanders. I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm not impressed so far. It looks a lot like Vinny stuff to me."
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guys, only one of these items is actually a "move" -- the McNabb trade. The media is talking about TO, not Allen or Shanny. And the draft-another-QB talk may well be a smokescreen from Shanny, who is famous for pre-draft misdirection.

I am just saying that perhaps the critizism of "moves" by the new front office should wait until there have actually been some moves.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 20, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

If the Skins end up with Okung or Suh, either is a good thing. Safety is the Skins weak link on D so I could see them trading down a few spots and still landing Eric Berry as well.

I could see the Lions thinking they take Okung at 2 and then trade for AH to (what they think will)stabilize their D line. I could also see the Skins trading AH and the 4 pick to the Lions for the 2 pick and maybe one of the Lions later picks.

Posted by: AsstGM | April 20, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Trade picks for McNabb, talk about picking up TO, drafting yet another QB.... the only thing missing is bringing back Deion Sanders.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm not impressed so far. It looks a lot like Vinny stuff to me.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 2:48 PM |

Trading a pick for a great QB is something Vinny never did.

Who is talking about getting TO, did you here Shanny or Allen say it no.

They are keeping everyone guessing about what they will do in the draft, would you rather they just tell everyone we are drafting a LT.


It's nice to see your still crying maybe the draft will cheer you up.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

wait 15 minutes the trade will show up on WaPo

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 20, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"But if one of those defensive tackles is still on the board, the Redskins might have a shot to move down and stockpile at least one more early-round pick in the process."

Theory says take the best player available which is Suh who has been WIDELY regarded as the #1 overall pick. If you don't draft him, then you trade down and still get a quality OT and maybe even a RT if you do it right.

"Trade picks for McNabb, talk about picking up TO, drafting yet another QB.... the only thing missing is bringing back Deion Sanders."

Yeah really.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | April 20, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Carriker for Rocky McIntosh or Andre Carter...

(pure prediction)

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:18 PM

Carriker for Carter has only been discussed for a month.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

ESPN always scoops J Reid. Does this mean Albert is gone now that we have Carriker? I wonder what we gave up for him.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 20, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

wow. His wikipedia is already updated!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Carriker

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Carriker for Carter has only been discussed for a month.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Well it looks like I made an educated guess then.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Per Adam Shefter, we're getting Carriker from the Rams. No word on who we're giving up.


http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 20, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Is Carriker any good? I know he was a 13th overall pick in 07, but I haven't heard his name a whole lot.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Rocco,

Welcome. Arts School. Oy Vey. I'm a Univ. of Miami Music School grad (geetar). Go to the big markets. That's where your opportunity will be as a performer. If you're looking at production, there are other possibilities. If your spanish is good, Miami is eh.. alright. But LA or NYC are prolly your only legit options. Once you break, you have other choices.

Rok rok AUN!

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 20, 2010 3:04 PM
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Thanks. Yea, I often go back in forth to the NYC. I work with a producer up there. I wanna bring celebrity status to Maryland though!!!!

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Two of those things haven't happened.

So purely based on a trade for McNabb, Shanahan = Cerrato?

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Yes its the win now attitude of the last ten years when we all know we are not that close. I am not hatting on the moves so far and certainly am not saying they are bad moves but cmon, DMAC, LJ, fast willie. Tell me these dont look like snyderatto moves!?!

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I dont remember the last time there were this many trades.... damn CBA.... makes offseason boring!

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | April 20, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Who is talking about getting TO, did you here Shanny or Allen say it no.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:18 PM

ESPN is talking about the Skins getting TO, not Shanny of Allen. You know, in the same way ESPN floated McNabb trade rumors before they became reality.

Why would you beleive what Shanny and Allen say or don't say, when they are clearly keeping their plans under wraps (although ESPN and JLC seem to have some insights)?

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Carriker for Carter has only been discussed for a month.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Well it looks like I made an educated guess then.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

What, is everyone ruling out JC for Carriker?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Here's a tweet from a Rams beat writer.

http://twitter.com/BJRains

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Carriker for Carter has only been discussed for a month.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Well it looks like I made an educated guess then.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

What, is everyone ruling out JC for Carriker?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

And a very happy 4 20 to you psps23!!! lol

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | April 20, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Carriker is often injured. When he's on the field he seems to be solid against the run, but offers NO pass rush.

Posted by: TWISI | April 20, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Carriker started all 16 games as a rookie after the Rams chose him in the first round of the 2007 draft, but he started only nine games in 2008 and missed the entire 2009 season after suffering a serious shoulder injury.

Posted by: TWISI | April 20, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"Per Adam Shefter, we're getting Carriker from the Rams. No word on who we're giving up."


Man are we revampin' the defensive line.

Now, as for that other line.....

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

St. Louis

Sources: Rams DT Carriker traded to Redskins

The Rams have traded defensive tackle Adam Carriker to the Redskins for what is beleived to be a fifth-round draft choice,

Posted by: BugEyes | April 20, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Another nose tackle? He apparently started all 16 games at NT for the Rams his rookie year. Seems a bit light (295 lbs) to be NT, though.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 20, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

To me this is not a surprising move. He probably played with Haslett in SL. If so, that's a good sign that guys would want to move somewhere to be with the Def. coach rathaer than away from him.

Either way, buh-bye AH Fatsworth, and good riddance.

Posted by: Corvis777 | April 20, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I just hope its not for a draft pick...cant really afford to give away any more of those at this point... but Carriker is a nice addition... low risk, (Depending on what we gave up) and high reward. Clearly he has talent as he was the 13th overall pick a few years ago.... He is a prototypical NT for a 3-4 front... doesn't rush the passer but takes on doubles and plays the run (when healthy).

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 20, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Okung is going to the Eagles. They're trading their 1st rounder plus Vick to move up and get him. So forgettaboutit Deadskins fans!!! McNabb will be on his butt most of the year or throwing grass-passes. Hey maybe to T.O. Sweet!!!!

Posted by: billm32 | April 20, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

ESPN:

ST. LOUIS -- The St. Louis Rams have traded defensive tackle Adam Carriker, a first-round pick in 2007 who's been held back by injuries and position switches, to the Washington Redskins.

The Rams and Redskins also swapped their fifth-round picks in this weekend's NFL draft as part of the trade, a source tells ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Rams general manager Billy Devaney said Tuesday the team had enough depth at the position to make the deal. He said the draft class was loaded with defensive tackles, and the Rams are expected to re-sign backup Gary Gibson to augment a group headed by Clifton Ryan, Fred Robbins and Darell Scott.

Carriker was the 13th overall pick in 2007 out of Nebraska. He missed last season with a shoulder injury. He will be reunited with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett, a former Rams coach.

Devaney said the Redskins have been trying to trade for Carriker for a while.

"The signings we've made the past couple of weeks we thought, you know what, this might be the right time to do it," Devaney said. "Right now it seems like we've got a little bit of depth. I hope we do."

Carriker was a 300-pound defensive end at Nebraska, where he was Big 12 defensive player of the year as a senior. He played tackle in a 4-3 alignment with St. Louis but is likely to move outside in the Redskins' 3-4 scheme. Carricker has 53 tackles, including two sacks, in 31 career NFL games.

"He's never complained and we used him in multiple positions," Devaney said. "He did the best he could, but it hasn't been a great scheme for him."

ESPN.com senior writer John Clayton, ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Posted by: mac2j | April 20, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I would love to see Detroit trade us thier 2-round pick for Haynesworth. It would be great for both sides.

Posted by: Gibbs4Pres | April 20, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

This article is about what I believe is the worse possible scenerio for the Skins on draft day. If the Lions take OT Okung which I think they won't, and Tampa takes DT Suh which I think they will if available. The best available player for the Skins is DB Eric Berry who they need badly, eventhough there has been few Tennesse DBs who has developed into big-time NFL players. Even if they trade back a few spots, the Skins pretty much have to take an OT, and HE HAS GOT TO BE READY TO MAN-UP FROM DAY ONE. Every year I google game videos of potential Redskin top pick and I'm just not confident in OT Trent Williams as the 4th pick in the draft. OT Brian Bugala gives it what hes got and attempts to take on all comers, he just lack some neccessities that can get your QB bazookaed. There are some OTs like Rutgers Anthony Davis who fit the area of need, and I believe in him, but isn't thought worthy of a top pick by most writers. I hope Okung gets past the Rams and the Lions.

Posted by: DMcCall2 | April 20, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

f. davis did NOT look like a complete bust..the idiot who was trying to imitate a HC was a complete bust don't blame davis a big TE with deep speed, for that moron who has no play-calling ability,discipline,and is a weakling. e. william should compete with rabach(another weakling)for the starting center position he is young but stands his ground from what I saw of him and will not get pushed into the QB like rabach. and if the line is as good as shanahan's son mentioned the other day(rabach,heyer to me should be replaced)and they actually play better as this off season goes right into the pre-season..bugle was o-line coach.

Posted by: wathu19 | April 20, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

If the Rams traded a DT, it could mean they plan to draft Suh to replace him. Lions and Bucs already have franchise QBs so Bradford could likely fall to us. Hmm...

Posted by: dg_photofl | April 20, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

sources are coming up more lately that the Lions are gonna take Russell Okung at #2. Which means a very good leverage for the Skins to trade down and get Trent Williams which Kyle Shanahan is indicating fits more on their scheme.

Man I hope its true as well as trading Fat Albert with the Titans 2 3rd rd picks

and oh, the TO rumors are farce. He's not gonna be a Skins at all. WOOOHOOO!

HTTR!!!

Posted by: datruth21 | April 20, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Happy 420 everybody! Fading.. fast... please .... wake .....me ...... up......... when .......... september ............ ends!
BTW.......................F-Dallas!!!!!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 20, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

"For some reason people also seem to forget that C. McCoy is the all time winningest college QB in NCAA history. I guess its cause the Tebow shadow cast upon CFB the last few years."

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Colt McCoy was a very good (albeit overrated) college player, but he'll be Hasselbeck — TIM, not Matt — at best. The kid is undersized and has a relatively weak arm ... he'll be a coach in three years.

Posted by: DC2Dallas | April 20, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

How about this....DM5 plus Skins #1 for Big Ben and the Steelers #1?

Steelers take Bradford or Clausen with the #4 pick and groom him behind McNabb for a couple years. McNabb still makes them a contender in the meantime.

Skins take a solid OL with the late pick in the first round to protect Ben.

Plausible?

Posted by: Monk81_Green28 | April 21, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Both McCoy & Suh are rated as better prospects than any of the left tackles. The better left tackles are rated as having good potential, which translates into they may be excellent but they may also be mediocre. Since the 2 defensive tackles are going to have an extremely high value in the trade market if they drop down to the 4 spot the Redskins should trade. It is possible to get in return a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd this year and a 2nd next year. That is a reasonable value for a young super star and would certainly help a team devoid of draft picks to rebuild an aging 4-12 team.

Posted by: edeshields | April 21, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Both McCoy & Suh are rated as better prospects than any of the left tackles. The better left tackles are rated as having good potential, which translates into they may be excellent but they may also be mediocre. Since the 2 defensive tackles are going to have an extremely high value in the trade market if they drop down to the 4 spot the Redskins should trade. It is possible to get in return a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd this year and a 2nd next year. That is a reasonable value for a young super star and would certainly help a team devoid of draft picks to rebuild an aging 4-12 team.

Posted by: edeshields | April 21, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I hate the name Roccoskins

Posted by: MOJOMELE | April 21, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

whats up im 18 years old and a huge skins fan too.

but i think if suh is there weve got to trade down. he isnt going to play NT so we already have 3-4 DE's on our roster. we have kedric golston, adam carriker, daniels, and AH. (trust me he will be lining up at both DE and NT in haslett's new scheme)

so if suh or mccoy are there the only logical thing to do is trade down and get more picks.

Posted by: stuckyfresh | April 21, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

This scenerio sounds too good to be true. But if that happens, Skins can move down, get a good tackle, mid 1st rd, maybe Willams, or the kid from Iowa or Rutgers(cant think of names rigth now), then get either a get a high 2nd rd, probably early 3rd for whateva team will trade up to get the 4th selection in the draft.

Posted by: RNice2020 | April 21, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

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