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Redskins take LSU linebacker Perry Riley with 103rd pick


Updated at 11 a.m.

After beefing up their offense with their first-round pick, the Redskins turned their attention to the defensive side of the ball, selecting LSU linebacker Perry Riley with their fourth-round pick Saturday morning.

Riley, 6-foot-1, 239 pounds, was a weak-side linebacker for the Tigers but has been projected by many to play as an inside linebacker in the NFL. He started 22 college games and played a role in 185 tackles with two sacks and also made two interceptions. He registered 13 stops for loss.

With family from the Richmond area, Riley said in a conference call moments after being selected that he grew up a fan of the Redskins.

"Today a dream came true," he said.
 
He was so excited, in fact, that when his phone rang this morning he said he wasn't even sure who had called him from the Redskins to inform him he'd been drafted.

Riley was a four-year player for LSU, and as a junior, he was a finalist for the Butkus Award and was the team's defensive MVP in the Chik-fil-A Bowl At the NFL Scouting Combine in February in Indianapolis, Riley ran a 4.69 in the 40-yard dash and had a 35 1/2-inch vertical jump.

He played his freshman season on the same Tigers defense as Redskins safety LaRon Landry. Riley also played on special teams for all four of his years at LSU.

His addition could provide added competition at the linebacker slot. London Fletcher, Rocky McIntosh and H.B. Blades could all find themselves playing inside. Riley said talent evaluators have told him that he might be a better fit as an inside linebacker in the NFL, but "I can play either one," he said.

The pick was the second of this year's draft for the Redskins. They selected left tackle Trent Williams in the first round with the fourth overall pick, but had no picks in the second or third rounds and sat out Day 2 of the draft.

The Redskins have two picks remaining -- the 163rd overall in the fifth round and the 208th overall in the seventh round.

By Rick Maese  |  April 24, 2010; 10:18 AM ET
Categories:  NFL Draft  
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Comments

It's certainly a need.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 24, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Huh? Should've picked the OT from Maryland.

Posted by: fxfemail | April 24, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

who

Posted by: yaser800 | April 24, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Who? I really would have liked to see them take Campbell, but a LB is not bad. Hope the kid is good. I have never heard of him.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 24, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Dang wanted Bruce Campbell there soooo bad.

Posted by: settleten | April 24, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Maybe movin' him inside. Scouting report says he's an above average tackler. Skins are kinda overloaded on the outside.

Posted by: saltine182 | April 24, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Dumb pick in Riley. They should have grabbed Bruce Campbell from Maryland. Very dumb!

Posted by: john24 | April 24, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell would have been my pick there. Not like their OT depth (or talent) is that overwhelming...

Posted by: guggy_fresh | April 24, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Almost 48 hours and no heads up on this one? That's a pretty closed war room, huh?

Posted by: WorstSeat | April 24, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

this would be so much more fun if we had picks like eagles or pats....anyone heard of this guy?

Posted by: follybeach | April 24, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Wow. With all the OLBs on the roster already??

Oh brother. Maybe he's a special teams stud.

Posted by: heyjoe728 | April 24, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

WTF?!?!?! Could have had this guy in the 7th round...is Cerrato back in our draft room? Sigh...

Posted by: PDXskin | April 24, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Obviously no team thinks very highly of Campbell from Maryland

Posted by: Rusty6392 | April 24, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Why did we pass on Bruce Campbell?!

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 24, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Campbell is obviously a bum, probably Heyer redux. Everybody needs to shut the f up about him, jesus.

Posted by: Salinas1 | April 24, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Woot!!! Bruuuuuce...Riley? I thought his last name was Campbell? Funny, he looks small for a tackle... sigh, oh well. Trust in MS, BA, & the dude Spurrier dissed.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Disappointed...Bruce Campbell was there for the taking to help build this o-line with two strong, good bookend w Williams and Campbell.

LB is a need, but I don't know if this was the way to go...

Posted by: dglelite | April 24, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

He's 20?

It's not like guys taken at this spot are going to help much the first year. Special teams, spot situations but they're not going to get much time on the field anyway.

I don't understand some people who think Skins will be getting starters on the third day. Not starters for this year, that's for sure.

Maybe he's a gem.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 24, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Instincts/Recognition Overall instincts are good but not elite. Rarely false steps. Does a good job of reading keys against run and fills downhill quickly. Is susceptible to play action and can lose drop zone integrity as a result. Needs to do a better job of recognizing and reacting to screens.

Strength/Toughness Displays above-average core strength. Welcomes contact. Heavy handed and can jolt blockers with initial punch at the point of attack. Does a good job of controlling and shedding blocks. Effort in pursuit is inconsistent at times.

Range vs. Run Straight line speed and closing burst is good. However, displays tightness in hips and struggles with any sudden change-of-direction. Angles in pursuit are good but can lose gap integrity with runs fits on occasion.

Tackling Sound overall tackler. Balanced and a heavy hitter when meeting running backs in the hole. Flashes ability to deliver violent strike. Has some inconsistency as an open field tackler.

3rd Down Capabilities Effective dropping into underneath zone coverage. Shows good awareness for crossers in his zone. Limited ball skills. May have trouble limiting separation when matched up in man coverage against running backs and tight ends. Times pressures well and displays good power and closing burst as a rusher.

Posted by: saltine182 | April 24, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Yikes. Here's his review from nfl dot com: Riley has been a productive linebacker for LSU over the past two seasons. He has adequate size and athleticism for the position with better straight-line speed than change-of-direction and burst in space. Leverages the ball well with good run fits inside-out to the pile. He is a solid open-field tackler, keeping proper body positioning as well as wrapping up on contact. He has a feel for reading route progressions but lacks the agility and quickness to be effective in man coverage. Riley is a good football player with the size, strength and athleticism to develop at the next level, but he likely will only contribute on special teams in his rookie season.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 24, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

that's the scouting report on Riley from Scouts Inc.

Posted by: saltine182 | April 24, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I dont know why everyone keeps saying Campbell from MD, he sucks, if he was good he wouldve went 2nd-3rd round and its a school with a horrible football team. If this was the NBA draft maybe go MD but football? Terp bias I guess.

Posted by: BIGTWIG1321 | April 24, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell is an LT who scouts say wouldn't transition well to RT. Why would the Redskins pick another LT when they just picked one with the 4th overall pick?

Posted by: -swb | April 24, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

P. Riley could be another London Fletcher. He is a big time hitter from a big time program. Bruce Campbell is obviously a very tainted prospect. His game film must be very bad. I predict that Haynesworth will be traded after the draft to New Orleans for their tackle Brown and a 2nd round pick.

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | April 24, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

campbell goes to the Eagles?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Campbell goes to Oakland

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 24, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Bruuuce to the Raiders.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I watched Maryland football all year and he was nothing special.

He just went to the Raiders.

Posted by: Rusty6392 | April 24, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

nope..campbell to Oakland

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Da raidas swoop in..............

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 24, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Here's a profile on him with a couple of video highlights. He looks like he closes fast and is a solid tackler.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116446?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

Posted by: guggy_fresh | April 24, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Because in the 4th round you gamble that an athletic freak can make the move from the LT to the RT. Its not that hard dude, its not like moving from lawyer to heart surgeon. Its Oline for god's sake.

Posted by: settleten | April 24, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Because in the 4th round you gamble that an athletic freak can make the move from the LT to the RT. Its not that hard dude, its not like moving from lawyer to heart surgeon. Its Oline for god's sake.

Posted by: settleten | April 24, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Because in the 4th round you gamble that an athletic freak can make the move from the LT to the RT. Its not that hard dude, its not like moving from lawyer to heart surgeon. Its Oline for god's sake.

Posted by: settleten | April 24, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

WE NEED O-LINE DEPTH! QUALITY BACKUP! PLEASE!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 24, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

We didn't draft Cam Thomas so I guess Fat Al is staying

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 24, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Jaws, on ESPN, has gotten huge.. He is going to have to change his nickname to Jowls.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Can we trade Campbell for Campbell?

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 24, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

On Riley: SI had him projected to the 4th round. Got graded down because he's not that big and doesn't have real outstanding measurables. But everybody agreed he's smart and hard-working.

Personally, I was glad the club didn't take another tackle. Linebacking has been a concern since the beginning of last season, and they're not getting any younger there.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Campbell is obviously a bum, probably Heyer redux. Everybody needs to shut the f up about him, jesus.

Posted by: Salinas1 | April 24, 2010 10:29 AM

Campbell = Heyer + good combine workout

In other word, dud.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

McShay and Kiper both just said Bruce Campbell is terrible in his technique, and is quite an under achiever. Still three years away from being an NFL OL
He is just an exercise warrior at this point!

So Skins FO was right to pass on him

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Should have taken Bruce Campbell or Selvish Capers. They don't pick again until 163!!! Neither player is going to be there and they need a RT. The could also use B. Campbell as a backup LT if/when Trent Williams is injured. Campbell would have been a better insurance policy than Heyer is. Terrible pick. They have like 12 linebackers on the depth chart already and apparently are unwilling to trade any of them. What are they doing?

Posted by: tramellcanady | April 24, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I would have prefered to see Bruce Campbell or another o-linemen I have never heard of Riley but coming from LSU I'm sure he has talent.

Posted by: skinsFan74 | April 24, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

It's not like guys taken at this spot are going to help much the first year. Special teams, spot situations but they're not going to get much time on the field anyway.

I don't understand some people who think Skins will be getting starters on the third day. Not starters for this year, that's for sure.

Maybe he's a gem.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 24, 2010 10:30 AM

agreed, anything that comes out of these rounds would be strictly bonus points... BPA by whatever criteria, rather than trying to fill specific holes.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 24, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

he's going to play inside it sounds like

Posted by: follybeach | April 24, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

btw, F-Dallas

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 24, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Why did we skip over Eric Norwood? Rated significantly higher than Riley. He was a beast in the SEC.

Eric Norwood (South Carolina):
He has experience playing standing up at South Carolina, despite being a defensive end, and he has looked good dropping back into coverage on occasion as well so those are major pluses for rush linebacker prospects that can be so unpredictable. He also has 30 sacks in his 4 year career at South Carolina and had 7.5 this year, so he’s a good pass rusher as well, though not a great one. He’s versatile and can play 4-3 strong outside linebacker and maybe even some 3-4 middle linebacker. His 40 time for his weight could keep him out of the first round.

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Bad choice!

Bruce Campbell was ideal especially with the acquisition of DM.....

Posted by: mmagua | April 24, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

wow what a pick!!!!!!!!

now that we have one of the best offensive lines in the league

we go get somebody we could of got in the fifth or sixth round , you know with the pick we are suppose to get for trading campbell

what a qb campbell is huh NOBODY WANTS HIM - YOU BUNCH OR LOSERS

HOW DO YOU NOT PICK CAMPBELL YOUR OFFENSIVE LINE SUCKS

go skins, cant wait to get my perry riley jersey


Posted by: ecartola | April 24, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Skins passed on Bruce Campbell because of his last name

Posted by: BallsDeep | April 24, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Because in the 4th round you gamble that an athletic freak can make the move from the LT to the RT. Its not that hard dude, its not like moving from lawyer to heart surgeon. Its Oline for god's sake.

Posted by: settleten | April 24, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Although not as dramatic as surgeon to lawyer, the RT spot needs very good drive/run blocking skills, and Campbell is not that player, never will be. He is physically built like a pass protecting LT and playing him at RT is really not an option in the NFL.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

THIS 3-4 SWITCH JUST KEEPS BITING US IN THE ASS !


1.) This team was constructed with heavy depth on the D-Line (especially DE) and light depth on the LB position in it's present 4-3 status. So what do you ? You go switch to a 3-4... WTF ??

2.) You now are forced to keep Orakpo at an OLB spot keeping him away from his natural position as a destructive 4-3 DE.

3.) You further setback the development of up & coming situational/3rd pass rushers like Chris Wilson and Rob Jackson

4.) You now make Andre Carter irrelevant to the point where we are considering trading him after an 11 sack season.

5.) You also have now forced Haynesworth (not a sympathizer of this guy, but....)
to be a $41 mil 3-4 gap stuffer and neutralized his talented skill set.

6.) And now in the draft, because we are so desperate for LB depth, we pass up on OL help (didn't have to neccesarily be B. Campbell, but some good OG, OT or C prospect) because we desperately needed to fill the LB void of now needing 4 LB's + depth.


THIS 3-4 is just a horrible switch for a team that is not constructed for it and so lacking at crucial other spots on the field. TERRIBLE SWITCH !!

Posted by: OG_Barno | April 24, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

THIS 3-4 SWITCH JUST KEEPS BITING US IN THE ASS !


1.) This team was constructed with heavy depth on the D-Line (especially DE) and light depth on the LB position in it's present 4-3 status. So what do you ? You go switch to a 3-4... WTF ??

2.) You now are forced to keep Orakpo at an OLB spot keeping him away from his natural position as a destructive 4-3 DE.

3.) You further setback the development of up & coming situational/3rd pass rushers like Chris Wilson and Rob Jackson

4.) You now make Andre Carter irrelevant to the point where we are considering trading him after an 11 sack season.

5.) You also have now forced Haynesworth (not a sympathizer of this guy, but....)
to be a $41 mil 3-4 gap stuffer and neutralized his talented skill set.

6.) And now in the draft, because we are so desperate for LB depth, we pass up on OL help (didn't have to neccesarily be B. Campbell, but some good OG, OT or C prospect) because we desperately needed to fill the LB void of now needing 4 LB's + depth.


THIS 3-4 is just a horrible switch for a team that is not constructed for it and so lacking at crucial other spots on the field. TERRIBLE SWITCH !!

Posted by: OG_Barno | April 24, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Why did we skip over Eric Norwood? Rated significantly higher than Riley. He was a beast in the SEC.

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 10:42 AM

Well, I'm taking a guess here but I think he was rated higher by NFL.com, not by the Redskins. And, since four other teams have also selected LB's who were rated lower than NFL.com's rating, I'm also thinking that maybe NFL.com had him overrated. Sort of like NFL.com's rating on Bruce Campbell.

So, who you gonna trust? Jason LaCanfora at NFL.com or the Redskins scouting staff?

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Riley is definitely playing inside. If they were looking at an OLB it would have been Ricky Sapp or Eric Norwood.

Campbell should have been the pick but it's not like Shanny has ever made a mistake in the draft or in personnel decisions.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

THIS 3-4 SWITCH JUST KEEPS BITING US IN THE ASS !


1.) This team was constructed with heavy depth on the D-Line (especially DE) and light depth on the LB position in it's present 4-3 status. So what do you ? You go switch to a 3-4... WTF ??

2.) You now are forced to keep Orakpo at an OLB spot keeping him away from his natural position as a destructive 4-3 DE.

3.) You further setback the development of up & coming situational/3rd pass rushers like Chris Wilson and Rob Jackson

4.) You now make Andre Carter irrelevant to the point where we are considering trading him after an 11 sack season.

5.) You also have now forced Haynesworth (not a sympathizer of this guy, but....)
to be a $41 mil 3-4 gap stuffer and neutralized his talented skill set.

6.) And now in the draft, because we are so desperate for LB depth, we pass up on OL help (didn't have to neccesarily be B. Campbell, but some good OG, OT or C prospect) because we desperately needed to fill the LB void of now needing 4 LB's + depth.


THIS 3-4 is just a horrible switch for a team that is not constructed for it and so lacking at crucial other spots on the field. TERRIBLE SWITCH !!

Posted by: OG_Barno | April 24, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Very impressed with the Raiders draft for once.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

after hearing some of the stuff he does well plus he came from LSU and he did pretty well stat wise im not that dissappointed as I was when I first heard we drafted him

Look for Kyle Calloway in the 5th

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 24, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

THIS 3-4 SWITCH JUST KEEPS BITING US IN THE ASS !


1.) This team was constructed with heavy depth on the D-Line (especially DE) and light depth on the LB position in it's present 4-3 status. So what do you ? You go switch to a 3-4... WTF ??

2.) You now are forced to keep Orakpo at an OLB spot keeping him away from his natural position as a destructive 4-3 DE.

3.) You further setback the development of up & coming situational/3rd pass rushers like Chris Wilson and Rob Jackson

4.) You now make Andre Carter irrelevant to the point where we are considering trading him after an 11 sack season.

5.) You also have now forced Haynesworth (not a sympathizer of this guy, but....)
to be a $41 mil 3-4 gap stuffer and neutralized his talented skill set.

6.) And now in the draft, because we are so desperate for LB depth, we pass up on OL help (didn't have to neccesarily be B. Campbell, but some good OG, OT or C prospect) because we desperately needed to fill the LB void of now needing 4 LB's + depth.


THIS 3-4 is just a horrible switch for a team that is not constructed for it and so lacking at crucial other spots on the field. TERRIBLE SWITCH !!

Posted by: OG_Barno | April 24, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

What about a FS? Really want to move Landry back to SS.

Posted by: SonofNero | April 24, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Very impressed with the Raiders draft for once.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 10:51 AM


just thinking the same thing but wasnt sure if i wanted to admit it. jacoby ford is a playmaker

Posted by: follybeach | April 24, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Although not as dramatic as surgeon to lawyer, the RT spot needs very good drive/run blocking skills, and Campbell is not that player, never will be. He is physically built like a pass protecting LT and playing him at RT is really not an option in the NFL.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 10:48 AM |

Looks like someone knows a little about football. People, take note of this post and get over it. I would have liked Campbell too but this post is on point.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 24, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

You be moaning the pick aren't really paying attention. ILB which is where Riley projects in an attacking 3-4 fills a need two years down the road (when Fletcher won't be here), plus a potential special teamer starter this year. This is what the Skins have to do with their remaining picks, get developmental guys where older starters need to be replaced. There will be OTs who will be available either as FA or by trading a mid to late round pick in 2011, or a player like McIntosh who wants out of DC.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

go skins, cant wait to get my perry riley jersey

Posted by: ecartola | April 24, 2010 10:46 AM

you can already pick up your Trent Williams draft-day replica jersey here...

http://shop.redskins.com/CategoryDetail.aspx?CategoryID=500

...but if you're impatient, "Portis Girls Be Luv'd" jerseys are still available for only $49.99.

check back in 24 hours for Riley paraphernalia. I'm willing to wait until camp and pre-season before passing judgement.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 24, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

OG Barno - i agree with you 100%

i've had it with haynesworth, fat boy needs to go, but you hit on some truths here -

its not only haynesworht that has the issue.

its carter,
its orakpo,
its all these DL who now dont know where to line up anymore
and for what? to go please jim haslett?
THE GREAT JIM HASLETT?? maybe haslett should go lol

but like i said earilier - now that we have the best offensive line in the league,

we no longer need Offensive Lineman, no longer NEED DEPTH at the OFFENSIVE LINE

say it all together:

WE NEED PERRY RILEY

perry riley jerseys go on sale sunday 9am

cant wait!

Posted by: ecartola | April 24, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Why did we skip over Eric Norwood? Rated significantly higher than Riley. He was a beast in the SEC.

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 10:42 AM

Well, I'm taking a guess here but I think he was rated higher by NFL.com, not by the Redskins. And, since four other teams have also selected LB's who were rated lower than NFL.com's rating, I'm also thinking that maybe NFL.com had him overrated. Sort of like NFL.com's rating on Bruce Campbell.

So, who you gonna trust? Jason LaCanfora at NFL.com or the Redskins scouting staff?

ZING.

Posted by: eanderson4 | April 24, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

THIS 3-4 is just a horrible switch for a team that is not constructed for it and so lacking at crucial other spots on the field. TERRIBLE SWITCH !!

Posted by: OG_Barno |

yeah........ we get you don't like the switch

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 24, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

THIS 3-4 is just a horrible switch for a team that is not constructed for it and so lacking at crucial other spots on the field. TERRIBLE SWITCH !!

Posted by: OG_Barno | April 24, 2010 10:52 AM

Best time to judge a defense is before you've seen them play a down. I don't know why we're even bothering to field a team this year.

Best time to judge a poster is after he puts the same post up four times in a row. You're inept, OG_Barno.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

i like the pick bruce campbell will be a bust plus fletcher is getting a little long in the tooth.

Posted by: davetoobs146 | April 24, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Kind of feel like last year when we passed on Oher for Orakpo. Looks like Riley will really help us at inside LB, but I would have loved to have gotten one of the good RT prospects still on the board. Maybe a couple will still be there in the 5th round. And that slot receiver Ford was still there, would have loved to have had him giving us some big play potential on O and returns. I just wish we would have focused completely on O with the few picks we had. I want some more TD's next year.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 24, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone see Campbell play for Maryland? Why would you want the Skins to draft him? During the season if you'd have told me that they had a stud left tackle I'd have told you you were crazy.

Posted by: Jurgensen9 | April 24, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

if the 3-4 switch creates more turnovers I do not care who the Skins miss out on. Orakpo will be BETTER in a 3-4. Carter will do better then you think despite his poor performance in a 3-4 in San Fran. He was used very wrong there.

Haynesworth is a punk he would be perfect for the 3-4 but is unwilling to earn his money and do what the team asks.

There are still very good guards available that I hope the Skins take.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

People on here saying for the last 2 months that the Pats were set at TE after signing Crumpler. TOO Funny....The Pats have taken 2 TEs already.

Seahawks are OWNING the draft.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

LastBLast time I checked smart fUndamentally sound LB to play inside in the 3 4 was need. Relax people geez.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 24, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell sucks. Glad the Raiders finally took him.

Can still take Selvish Capers as a project tackle in the 5th. Will be a good fit for the zone blocking system.

Posted by: dfbovey | April 24, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Lame Pick...Bruce Cambell or Joe Mcnight was on the board.

Skins picked two bust LB in the 4 and 5th last year.
add one more

Posted by: unknownsouljah | April 24, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

"Because in the 4th round you gamble that an athletic freak can make the move from the LT to the RT. Its not that hard dude, its not like moving from lawyer to heart surgeon. Its Oline for god's sake.Posted by: settleten"

Probably be easier for an athlete like Bruce Campbell to transition to blocking TE than a regular role at right tackle. Maybe Chris Samuels could have done it, but Samuels was an exceptional run blocker who'd been in the league ten years.

Looks to me like the Shanahans prefer linemen who can play multiple positions. I base that not on any special insight but on the fact that they keep saying it. I imagine that's because they're going to keep seven and figure at least two will struggle with injuries during the season. That's usually the way it works, and it's hard to get viable replacement linemen during the season.

For a team like the Skins, I'm not in favor of loading up your draft on one area such as tackle. Too many rookie tackles do not a contender make.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Surprised we picked Riley over Norwood at LB

Not surprised we went D, thought it would be Cam Thomas though

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 24, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Riley seems to be similar to the two LBs drafted last year, Glenn and Henson.

And no QB today please unless they are clearly better than Colt. No more wasted picks on a Jordan Palmer type.

Posted by: dcwun | April 24, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Very impressed with the Raiders draft for once.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 10:51 AM
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Raiders staff have been taking turns driving Al Davis around the block over and over the past 2 days claiming they cant find a parking space.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I love how some of you think you know more than the EXPERIENCED front office guys. I realize watching "film" on youtube is so much more than the hundreds of hours the scouts and coaches have put in looking at these prospects. But hey, you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express lastnight.

Posted by: ChrisWoody | April 24, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

If I'm Dallas I takes Capers at 119

and F Dallas

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 24, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

hey where are all those jason campbell backers, the ones who think he should still be starting for the skins this year.


you know, the ones that think he should be voted to the pro bowl beacuse he is a
NICE GUY

how is that NICE GUY treating you now?

we cant give him away, we cant even package him in a "2 for 1" special

we cant even give him away and pay someone on tuesday for a hamburger today

Posted by: ecartola | April 24, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

"And no QB today please unless they are clearly better than Colt. No more wasted picks on a Jordan Palmer type.Posted by: dcwun"

Don't forget Gruden said he thought Allen would take a QB at some point.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I am not as upset about the Skins passing on Campbell as I am that they took a guy way too high in my opinion. When you do not have 2nd and 3rd rounders I think you should come into the 4th round taking a change on one of these highly rated players like...

Dwyer RB
Sapp DE
Tennant C
Mitchell (6-3 talented receiver)
Wooten (Very good DE)
Petrus G(The guy I wanted with this pick)

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

But hey, you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express lastnight.

Posted by: ChrisWoody | April 24, 2010 11:00 AM |

Based on what I've been reading, I think they slept under an expressway overpass last night.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

And no QB today please unless they are clearly better than Colt.
Posted by: dcwun | April 24, 2010 10:59 AM
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Colt still a Redskin?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I think Al Davis passed away Wed. nite and the Raiders FO is telling anyone until the draft is over

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 24, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Luv how all the RI GMs think they know better than BA/MS. Some have never heard of Riley but they know that Campbell was the better choice. UFB!

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 24, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

But hey, you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express lastnight.

WTF. Are you stalking me dude?

Posted by: SonofNero | April 24, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell...would give the Skins two bookend tackles who both run a 4.8 40. The things that the Shanahan offense could do with that sort of athleticism would be breathtaking.

Posted by: egrib

Yes, he could have entered them in relay races.

I know Campbell's fan club has been all over this board today, but according to every report I've seen this Workout Warrior has a very mediocre college career. Skins don't need more underachievers.

'skins have the fewest picks in the NFL this year. Philly has about 50 today. 'Skins lost ground to NFC East and most of the NFL.

If Riley can play and Trent WIlliams is the beast they think he is, the team got better, tho.

Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Although not as dramatic as surgeon to lawyer, the RT spot needs very good drive/run blocking skills, and Campbell is not that player, never will be. He is physically built like a pass protecting LT and playing him at RT is really not an option in the NFL.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 10:48 AM |

Looks like someone knows a little about football. People, take note of this post and get over it. I would have liked Campbell too but this post is on point.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 24, 2010 10:53 AM

Blind leading the Blind here...This remedial player evaluation could apply to Trent Williams, as well.

Zone Blocking, remember??? That's why we choose TW over Okung. Campbell would have been a perfect fit.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone see Campbell play for Maryland? Why would you want the Skins to draft him? During the season if you'd have told me that they had a stud left tackle I'd have told you you were crazy.

Posted by: Jurgensen9 | April 24, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Yes saw him play for Maryland, and I agree with you 100%.

Posted by: Rusty6392 | April 24, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Riley, who goes 6'2/245, played weak-side linebacker at LSU, finishing second on the Tigers in tackles. He'll compete for playing time inside with Rocky McIntosh in Washington's new 3-4 defense, while also likely chipping in on special teams. Not a playmaker, Riley forced just one career fumble. Considering the talent left, he was a reach at the top of round four

Posted by: saliba7076 | April 24, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

@OG_Barno: I don't think there are many 4-3 defenses prepared to make the switch to a 3-4. Besides, this team has more flaws than 5 draft picks could fix. Its going to take years, plural, to undo the poor drafting that this team has been subjected to.

Do I think the 'Skins will pick in the top ten next year? No way. 11-20 would be more realistic given our coaching and roster.

Posted by: AppleScience | April 24, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Luv how all the RI GMs think they know better than BA/MS. Some have never heard of Riley but they know that Campbell was the better choice. UFB!

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 24, 2010 11:03 AM

Yeah I remember hearing that same thing the past 4 years and it turning out we were right and THEY were wrong.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Luv how all the RI GMs think they know better than BA/MS. Some have never heard of Riley but they know that Campbell was the better choice. UFB!

Posted by: Curzon417

Look Pal, the RI GMs have helped make this team what it is today...

Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

"hey where are all those jason campbell backers, the ones who think he should still be starting for the skins this year.
you know, the ones that think he should be voted to the pro bowl beacuse he is a
NICE GUY how is that NICE GUY treating you now? we cant give him away, we cant even package him in a "2 for 1" special. we cant even give him away and pay someone on tuesday for a hamburger todayPosted by: ecartola"

OK, I'm probably wasting my breath, but this sort of gloating is just dumb.

How many teams traded QBs since the beginning of this draft? The draft is not about pricy veterans. It's about over-optimistic hopes for untested college players. And some of the higher-rated QBs have fallen out of the first round, taking some potential trade partners like Carolina off the table.

Sure, the Skins may wind up releasing Campbell outright at some point. But that's not because he's a poor QB. He's mediocre.

And there are plenty of mediocre QBs in the NFL.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

i think they are preparing for rocky not making in mix but remember they tried to get alot of fa lbs already! rather have a rookie who you can mold then an overprized guy while we are still tweaking some things! bruce campbell was probably better for depth but since he would not be able to play rt i like lb pick. i will like it better if we get f. adams for rt!
1st- t.williams
2nd- d.mcnabb
3rd- j. Jarmon
4th- p. riley
5th- A. carriker/???
6th- ???
7th- ???

Posted by: jamly7733 | April 24, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Different guys picking of course but you underestimate the obsessed football fan is all I am saying

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Truth is, we fans are never certain about the draft.
But what I am certain on is liberal politics is dead wrong.
The more you tax the people, the more the govt. will grow and spend.

Wake up folks it really is happening
The govt is taxing us into debt and death

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Dwyer RB
Sapp DE
Tennant C
Mitchell (6-3 talented receiver)
Wooten (Very good DE)
Petrus G(The guy I wanted with this pick)

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:02 AM

That you, Vinny? Back with your best player available theory? DE? How many of those do we already have? G? We're set there.

Personally, I thought that LB is a much bigger need than any of those positions.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

At least the 'Skins didn't give away 2011 picks to get more for this year. Also, as we've seen, there will be changes on both sides of the ball. Remember this team was 4-12 in 2009.

I with others have said the talent wasn't there last year, that includes the defense.

I for one like what is happening. No splash, no panic, but it looks like a plan. Whether it works or not only time will tell. Look for the FO to sign more free agents, including s slew after the conclusion of the draft.

If this team hits 8-8 or 9-7 in 2010, they're on the right track.

Posted by: pjente | April 24, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey Ecartola, you sound like you have the smarts of Whimpy to go along with his favorite little jingle. Take a little peek at what's happening, or rather, not happening; teams are NOT giving away draft picks for players right now. It aint happening. There are all pros on the trading block with NO reported offers. So give your JC hating a rest, okay?

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 24, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Riley, who goes 6'2/245, played weak-side linebacker at LSU, finishing second on the Tigers in tackles. He'll compete for playing time inside with Rocky McIntosh in Washington's new 3-4 defense, while also likely chipping in on special teams. Not a playmaker, Riley forced just one career fumble. Considering the talent left, he was a reach at the top of round four

Posted by: saliba7076 | April 24, 2010 11:06 AM

I looked at three draft sites. They had him going in rounds three or four. Not a reach. The players who were projected to go in rounds 1 or 2 and slide, there usually is a reason for that. The Skins need solid picks in this draft since they have few picks.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Prediction:

We take this guy in the 7th. He's from Shanahan's alma matter and has been profiled in a few draft sleepers articles:

Chris Campbell/OT/Eastern Illinois: Campbell could be the best kept secret in this year's draft. He's already visited three while six offensive line coaches have privately met with Campbell. He's an athletic left tackle prospect with terrific size (6-foot-6, 328 pounds) as well as growth potential. Just a one-year starter in college, Campbell's best football is ahead of him.


Yeah, another Campbell.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

There is only so much room for underachieving Campbells on the team.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 24, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Yeah I remember hearing that same thing the past 4 years and it turning out we were right and THEY were wrong.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:07 AM

Only an idiot would compare BA/MS to Danny/Vinny.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 24, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Hey Everyone, NFL.com has a 4.7 grade for Perry Riley.
Translation?

NFL.com believes he should have been drafted much later.
For example Aaron Hernandez TE from Florida was just drafted and he is graded a 7.4

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I think Al Davis passed away Wed. nite and the Raiders FO is telling anyone until the draft is over

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 24, 2010 11:03 AM
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that explains it.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Looks like JASON Campbell has been traded to Oakland for 5h & 7th round picks.

Posted by: bfjam | April 24, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse


THIS 3-4 is just a horrible switch for a team that is not constructed for it and so lacking at crucial other spots on the field. TERRIBLE SWITCH !!

Posted by: OG_Barno |

Welcome to what I suspect will be a rapidly expanding tent.

I've been saying fix the offense first, then GRADUALLY work your way into the 3-4.

As it is, this team is almost fresh out of draft picks, and can't give away the people it wants to trade--or could benefit by trading--J. Campbell, Haynesworth, MacIntosh, Rogers, Carter.

After the draft the team will still need:

Nose guard, linebackers, free safety, backup linemen, young RB,

Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

That you, Vinny? Back with your best player available theory? DE? How many of those do we already have? G? We're set there.

Personally, I thought that LB is a much bigger need than any of those positions.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 11:10 AM

If you think we are set at guard you must be Vinny. That DE is a guy that could FILL the LB spot in a 3-4 you are talking about that we need. Try knowing the players and team before calling me something so terrible as Ceratto.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell's daunting presence would have been a nice addition, but he's definitely a project, and I bet the Skins have Gaither or some other ready-made vet in mind..

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

They should send you to the war room to figure out the teams problems.. you seem to have your finger on the pulse!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 24, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse


Colt still a Redskin?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

Yeah, I know. Crazy how you can go from the "chosen one" to potentially a few months away from being cut.


Posted by: dcwun | April 24, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

On Riley: SI had him projected to the 4th round. Got graded down because he's not that big and doesn't have real outstanding measurables. But everybody agreed he's smart and hard-working.

Personally, I was glad the club didn't take another tackle. Linebacking has been a concern since the beginning of last season, and they're not getting any younger there.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse
I agree, samson. Riley is 6-1, 245, ran 4.6 in 40. Good solid tackler. We'll use him on teams, maybe work him in beside LF.

On OT, we would probably put BCampbell on practice squad for the year, better off getting someone who would contribute this year. Maybe get a project OT with our 7th pick, but not in 4th round.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 24, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

If the Skins sign Flozell and maybe Faneca, then your looking at short term fixes, but it gives you the capability to fill other needs this year. If they can get both of those O-Lineman, then take a Corner an a QB with the last two picks...unless there is a freak at receiver

Posted by: TheFuzzyClam | April 24, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Looks like JASON Campbell has been traded to Oakland for 5h & 7th round picks.

Posted by: bfjam | April 24, 2010 11:14 AM
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good move...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

The best case for not taking Bruce Campbell is that the Raiders ending up taking him. The Raiders don't exactly have a great track record in the draft. I could name a bunch, but JaMarcus Russell first overall in '07. How's that working out.

Posted by: gatorz | April 24, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Hey Everyone, NFL.com has a 4.7 grade for Perry Riley.
Translation?

NFL.com believes he should have been drafted much later.
For example Aaron Hernandez TE from Florida was just drafted and he is graded a 7.4

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2010 11:13 AM

Let me try this a little slower for you, RedskinRay1 since you may have missed it the first time:

Who. do. you. trust. to. evaluate. players? Marocco. Brown. or. Jason. LaCanfora?

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Only an idiot would compare BA/MS to Danny/Vinny.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 24, 2010 11:13 AM

Talking about all teams dummy not just the Skins

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Looks like JASON Campbell has been traded to Oakland for 5h & 7th round picks.

Posted by: bfjam | April 24, 2010 11:14 AM
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good move...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

Is this true?

Posted by: dcwun | April 24, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell's daunting presence would have been a nice addition, but he's definitely a project, and I bet the Skins have Gaither or some other ready-made vet in mind..

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2010 11:17 AM

hey frak, you must be sober at this early hour. that was a reasonably nice compound sentence. not saying anything about the content, but still...

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 24, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Looks like JASON Campbell has been traded to Oakland for 5h & 7th round picks.

Posted by: bfjam | April 24, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Is this confirmed?

Posted by: gatorz | April 24, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Who. do. you. trust. to. evaluate. players? Marocco. Brown. or. Jason. LaCanfora?

Posted by: League-Source
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uh LaCanfora reports the news.
He does not scout the players
come on....

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins didn't need another linebacker!

If they are going to a 3-4 defense and all those defensive ends are switching to linebacker then this team has too many linebackers already.

How about a free safety? This team has lots of strong safeties but not one natural free safety.

Or maybe another good offensive tackle? Bruce Campbell was there to be had but was left for Oakland to pick up. The Redskins have lots of people who can play guard but not very good at tackle. Apologies to Heyer, Hicks and Williams but those guys are not NFL starting level players.

Posted by: BigTrees | April 24, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Well, I'm taking a guess here but I think he was rated higher by NFL.com, not by the Redskins. And, since four other teams have also selected LB's who were rated lower than NFL.com's rating, I'm also thinking that maybe NFL.com had him overrated. Sort of like NFL.com's rating on Bruce Campbell.

So, who you gonna trust? Jason LaCanfora at NFL.com or the Redskins scouting staff?

ZING.

Posted by: eanderson4 | April 24, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Um, I suggest you check your facts and stop guessing. NFL.com wasn't the only one rating Norwood (significantly) higher. You have any facts to support why we might go with Riley instead of Norwood or are you just spouting off?

I may be a little biased because I went to S.C., but I know for a fact the guy can play. I saw plenty of games and the dude was a ball hawk, making plays all over the field. What's the point being here and talking about the draft if we're not going to talk about the draft?

Rather than "trust" the FO's decision, I'd simply like a little insight as to why we'd select someone that nobody has heard of vs. a defensive captain with pretty good stats who many scouts agree is a better NFL prospect (don't take my word for it, they both played in the SEC against lots of the same teams so compare their stats). Saying to "trust" the FO is a lame way of saying you have no facts to justify the pick. Personally, I think we've all "trusted" the Skins plenty in the past and look where that's gotten us.

ZING!

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I am fine with the linebacker the Skins took. He is a hard working character guy! That's great! We could use players in that spot for sure. I think he will be a solid special teams guy right away personally.

I am just saying they most likely could have gotten him much lower! It's not that hard to understand. He is rated pretty low by most scouting sites. Other then maybe SI. I believe they could have gotten other players that could have highly improved the O-line depth and still got this linebacker. I know everyone believes Shanahan and Allen can do not wrong but on this pick I think they made a minor mistake. That's all. I still think they are both a great coach and GM.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Mike Kafka an Eagle? hmmm......controversy in Philly in 3,2,1...

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

philly keeps getting bettah..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Watched every MD and Redskins game. I think he would have been a developmental player here. You just can't teach his athleticism. He would have been A MONSTER in a zone blocking scheme. He had good games, he had bad games with the terps. His issue was that he played the entire year last year with turf toe. I don't understand why everyone glosses over this fact. Toe injuries are very painful. That is why he looked inconsistent last year. If he would have stayed an extra year @ MD and not have gotten injured, he could have easily been a top 10 pick.

Posted by: merajc86 | April 24, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Al Woods is a great pick by the Saints. It's amazing how the rich get richer

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Um, I suggest you check your facts and stop guessing. NFL.com wasn't the only one rating Norwood (significantly) higher. You have any facts to support why we might go with Riley instead of Norwood or are you just spouting off?

I may be a little biased because I went to S.C., but I know for a fact the guy can play. I saw plenty of games and the dude was a ball hawk, making plays all over the field. What's the point being here and talking about the draft if we're not going to talk about the draft?

Rather than "trust" the FO's decision, I'd simply like a little insight as to why we'd select someone that nobody has heard of vs. a defensive captain with pretty good stats who many scouts agree is a better NFL prospect (don't take my word for it, they both played in the SEC against lots of the same teams so compare their stats). Saying to "trust" the FO is a lame way of saying you have no facts to justify the pick. Personally, I think we've all "trusted" the Skins plenty in the past and look where that's gotten us.

ZING!

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 11:26 AM

Okay, here's the facts that I checked:

Eight teams have drafted LB's who were rated lower than your boy Norwood. Eight professional scouting organizations think that Norwood shouldn't have been rated as high as he was at NFL.com. How many professional scouts are working at NFL.com?

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

you telling me we could've had Bruce Campbell- a guy projected as a first-second round talent- and passed? I don't get it.

We better take the best available OT/OG in Round 5. Maybe safety.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 24, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

That you, Vinny? Back with your best player available theory? DE? How many of those do we already have? G? We're set there.


Posted by: League-Source

I cannot tell you how relieved I am that you've informed us the Redskins are "set" at guard.

One question. Which fuure Hall of Famer is playing right guard? Is it Mike "Kirstie" WIlliams, Chad Rinehart or Artis "Career Backup" Hicks?

Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Hilarious:

ProFootballTalk

Antonio Cromartie is in the house. And the crowd chants, "Feed your kids."

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Rather than "trust" the FO's decision, I'd simply like a little insight as to why we'd select someone that nobody has heard

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Well, since Riley was a Butkus finalist last year and Def MVP of his bowl game this year, I think there are plenty of people that have heard of him.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

If he would have stayed an extra year @ MD and not have gotten injured, he could have easily been a top 10 pick.

Posted by: merajc86 | April 24, 2010 11:29 AM

but he didn't and he wasn't.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 24, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I am just saying they most likely could have gotten him much lower! It's not that hard to understand.

Good points. Stick to them.

Some folks here think we should give a standing ovation to Shananhan if he breaks wind during a press conference. And if you don't, why "Don't you understand! He won two Super Bowls! How many did you win?"

Yeah, fan is short for fanatic and folks here can say whatever they want - pro or con. But man, how about a little common sense?

Posted by: SteveMG | April 24, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: gatorz | April 24, 2010 11:18 AM


Everybody was in on J. Russell. Also for all their complaining about him, they havent exactly surrounded him with great talent on the line or at the skill positions. His first year starter numbers are better than Sanchez's were but for some reason we are conditioned to believe that qbs have to win games by themselves.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 24, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

The Raiders are for a change having an excellent draft. McLain was a great pick and Campbell is a steal in the 4th. Meanwhile Eagles take Trevard Lindey after we passed on him and Bruce Campbell...don't like this.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 24, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I cannot tell you how relieved I am that you've informed us the Redskins are "set" at guard.

One question. Which fuure Hall of Famer is playing right guard? Is it Mike "Kirstie" WIlliams, Chad Rinehart or Artis "Career Backup" Hicks?

Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2010 11:31 AM

LOL

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Blind leading the Blind here...This remedial player evaluation could apply to Trent Williams, as well.

Zone Blocking, remember??? That's why we choose TW over Okung. Campbell would have been a perfect fit.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 11:05 AM |

Oh really? It could? Interesting since we were talking about 2 different positions with different skill sets. There is also 1 other big difference, Trent Williams is actually good. Third point, you're a tool.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 24, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"Today a dream came true," he said.

Great line.

Hope he has a terrific career and makes a lot of money for himself and his family.

And he's still only 20?

Posted by: SteveMG | April 24, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Mike Kafka an Eagle? hmmm......controversy in Philly in 3,2,1...

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 11:27 AM

I'll go with 3 years from now...Kafka will be another quality pick that will have had time to develop into a starting caliber NFL QB. Right about that time we will be in the market for a QB and maybe we can trade a few picks for Kolb.

Other teams use their picks to add talent, depth,& competition and with that philosophy they don't have to rely on 20-23 year old kids to start immediately.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

JC still a Skin??

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I think they screwed the pick up with Riley. They said nothing about him when Skins picked, haven't stopped talking about Norwood yet. Just said he will be a starter right away!

Posted by: redryan400 | April 24, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

What about Ciron Black LSU, Jason Fox Miami, Brandon Carter TEXAS TECH,Sergio Render LSU,Jeff Byers USC

Posted by: SkinsFan37years | April 24, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell will be out of the league in 3 years.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Good points. Stick to them.

Some folks here think we should give a standing ovation to Shananhan if he breaks wind during a press conference. And if you don't, why "Don't you understand! He won two Super Bowls! How many did you win?"

Yeah, fan is short for fanatic and folks here can say whatever they want - pro or con. But man, how about a little common sense?

Posted by: SteveMG | April 24, 2010 11:32 AM

Thanks and well said.

To add to my last post if the Skins had 2nd and 3rd rounders it would not have been as hard to take. They came into the 4th round with the chance to add guys with potential to start this year. They passed on them to pick a guy that potentially could have gotten later. I think it is the result of the short time frame of this gm, coach, and scouting staff working together. It will improve I am sure.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Um, I suggest you check your facts and stop guessing. NFL.com wasn't the only one rating Norwood (significantly) higher. You have any facts to support why we might go with Riley instead of Norwood or are you just spouting off?

I may be a little biased because I went to S.C., but I know for a fact the guy can play. I saw plenty of games and the dude was a ball hawk, making plays all over the field. What's the point being here and talking about the draft if we're not going to talk about the draft?

Rather than "trust" the FO's decision, I'd simply like a little insight as to why we'd select someone that nobody has heard of vs. a defensive captain with pretty good stats who many scouts agree is a better NFL prospect (don't take my word for it, they both played in the SEC against lots of the same teams so compare their stats). Saying to "trust" the FO is a lame way of saying you have no facts to justify the pick. Personally, I think we've all "trusted" the Skins plenty in the past and look where that's gotten us.

ZING!

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 11:26 AM |

I can only guess here but I'm guessing that the FO thinks we have enough DE's converted to LB and wanted someone who is actually an LB.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 24, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

One question. Which fuure Hall of Famer is playing right guard? Is it Mike "Kirstie" WIlliams, Chad Rinehart or Artis "Career Backup" Hicks?

Posted by: TheCork | April 24, 2010 11:31 AM

Only you would come up here with a dumb f*ck question like that. Well, maybe not. But don't they have competition in training camp to replace a starter? Or do you think training camp is just to sell TV ads? Well, maybe.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I dont know why everyone keeps saying Campbell from MD, he sucks, if he was good he wouldve went 2nd-3rd round and its a school with a horrible football team. If this was the NBA draft maybe go MD but football? Terp bias I guess.

Posted by: BIGTWIG1321 | April 24, 2010 10:32 AM

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Exactly, I'm a Terp and I know he sucks. He's just a big guy that doesn't have the talent to crack any line-up at the pros!

He'll be eaten alive like Heyer by the DE and LB studs of the NFC East. I'm glad we didn't pick him, I was worried that they were gonna though.

Listen to Mike Mayock's analysis, Campbell has BUST written all over his forehead, Riley's downside is that he needs to work on pass coverage but he's really built as an ILB, and HE CAN TACKLE. Which we need (cough.. Hall, Landry, Rogers )

I was thinking the Skins were gonna pick Eric Norwood of South Carolina

Posted by: datruth21 | April 24, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Dallas just picked a really good small school player. Dude projected as a 3rd round pick before he got hurt during the draft process. He can play both CB/FS

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

JC still a Skin??

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2010 11:36 AM
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someone on here said he was traded to the Raiders for a 5th and 7th round pick.. Evidentally, neither he or the Redskins know this, yet?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I think they screwed the pick up with Riley. They said nothing about him when Skins picked, haven't stopped talking about Norwood yet. Just said he will be a starter right away!

Posted by: redryan400 | April 24, 2010 11:37 AM |

HA! That's why he wasn't picked til round 4. Instant starter, I guess we'll see about that.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 24, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

League-Source...

The Skins are very weak at Right Guard. There is no debating that. It's a fact.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Truth is, we fans are never certain about the draft.
But what I am certain on is liberal politics is dead wrong.
The more you tax the people, the more the govt. will grow and spend.

Wake up folks it really is happening
The govt is taxing us into debt and death

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Wow, RR1, where did that come from? On day3 of draft day, you'd rather talk about politics in RI? Wow!

Posted by: frediefritz | April 24, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

i really hope we pick cody grimm in 7th

Posted by: follybeach | April 24, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

As for Campbell... I am not a big fan of the Terps coaching staff. I think Campbell in a better college system would have been much more NFL ready. He is highly talented, works hard in the weight room, and has a killer instinct. If he went to the Skins I have a lot of faith in what Shanahan could have done with him. Not sold on what the Raiders could do with him. I think it's a bad situation for him. His best chance would have been a team like the Redskins. There are other guys I would of rather the Skins drafted over Campbell with the 4th rounder though.

I am pretty sure the Skins would have taken him if they didn't already select a LT. Moving him to RT is not really an option. When a guy needs that much work as it is moving him to another position is setting him up for failure.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

someone on here said he was traded to the Raiders for a 5th and 7th round pick.. Evidentally, neither he or the Redskins know this, yet?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 11:41 AM

I think you guys got hooked... there are more fishermen in the sea than beantowngreg.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 24, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Other teams use their picks to add talent, depth,& competition and with that philosophy they don't have to rely on 20-23 year old kids to start immediately.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 11:35 AM

Agreed, Eagles are a solid franchise and have been very successful. They also have been very stable and that has had a big impact on things.

Now maybe we can start to develop some stability and develop all the areas of our franchise so that we aren't so desperate
to fix an area like our Oline this year.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Heh, politics..What are we, the Crusader??

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

The Skins are very weak at Right Guard. There is no debating that. It's a fact.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:41 AM

Right Guard? The deodorant. Like your approach: "There is no debating that. It's a fact." Sounds like an ad for New York Times. And, it's just about as convincing.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Mike Williams owns truckloads of Right Guard..

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Right Guard? The deodorant. Like your approach: "There is no debating that. It's a fact." Sounds like an ad for New York Times. And, it's just about as convincing.

Posted by: League-Source

Ok well obviously you are here just to talk leet internet trash and fail at trying to be clever. Thanks for your thoughts but I will agree to disagree with you and ignore you from this point on.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

so there are rumors swirling that the jets are about to cut faneca. i think MS should go after him he;s gotta be an upgrade over BMW, right? whats are your thoughts?

Posted by: shortman4 | April 24, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Okay, here's the facts that I checked:

Eight teams have drafted LB's who were rated lower than your boy Norwood. Eight professional scouting organizations think that Norwood shouldn't have been rated as high as he was at NFL.com. How many professional scouts are working at NFL.com?

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I see. So, you're saying that teams don't draft based on player ratings. Very insightful about the NFL draft. However, I was looking for insight as to why we picked Riley over Norwood.

Physically, it's a wash. However, Norwood's stats blows Riley out of the water. Now, I know that stats aren't everything. I'm just trying to figure out why we went with Riley and not Norwood. Any insight other than to "trust" the scouts?

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:52 AM

a witty (or even wittier?) rebuttal with some content (optional) would have been nice.

cheers all, calves are stirring... will try to check in for #163.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 24, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Physically, it's a wash. However, Norwood's stats blows Riley out of the water. Now, I know that stats aren't everything. I'm just trying to figure out why we went with Riley and not Norwood. Any insight other than to "trust" the scouts?

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 11:55 AM

How about this: Norwood is an edge rusher. We don't need edge rushers. We're loaded with edge rushers. What we need is some ILB's. Riley is an ILB.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I can only guess here but I'm guessing that the FO thinks we have enough DE's converted to LB and wanted someone who is actually an LB.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 24, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Fair comment. But I like Norwood's 30 career sacks over Riley's 1 career sack. Plus, Norwood put up good numbers for 4 years vs. Riley's 1 (maybe two). I hope Riley is a beast and I guess time will tell.

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Let me try this a little slower for you, RedskinRay1 since you may have missed it the first time:

Who. do. you. trust. to. evaluate. players? Marocco. Brown. or. Jason. LaCanfora?

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse
Try to slow that down a little bit, LS. M o r o c c o ? or J a s n o ?

Wow, what a thought! Jasno knows everything there is to know, especially about the Skins. Just ask him.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 24, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

a witty (or even wittier?) rebuttal with some content (optional) would have been nice.

cheers all, calves are stirring... will try to check in for #163.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 24, 2010 11:56 AM

That would require an original witty comment to respond to. I am not really much for the 12 year old trash talk on the internet though. Even if you win it's like winning the special olympics. You are still retarded.

I am here to talk football!

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I see. So, you're saying that teams don't draft based on player ratings. Very insightful about the NFL draft. However, I was looking for insight as to why we picked Riley over Norwood.

Physically, it's a wash. However, Norwood's stats blows Riley out of the water. Now, I know that stats aren't everything. I'm just trying to figure out why we went with Riley and not Norwood. Any insight other than to "trust" the scouts?

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 11:55 A0

Here's a guess. Norwood projects as an OLB, while Riley projects as an ILB. Riley was a pick for the future when Fletcher, and perhaps McIntosh, will not be on the team.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh really? It could? Interesting since we were talking about 2 different positions with different skill sets. There is also 1 other big difference, Trent Williams is actually good. Third point, you're a tool.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 24, 2010 11:34 AM

Scott-

The only thing less impressive than your insults is your football acumen.

1. Both are potential LT prospects
2. Both would have probably benefited from a yr at RT, TW will have to start immediately.
3. Both played LT last yr after playing RT the year before.
4. Both had excellent combines (minus TW's weak bench)
5. Neither is a lock to be a LT in the NFL

Having trained under the same guy responsible for Kris Jenkins, Josh Wilson, Merriman, and Bruce Campbell (Dwight Galt, Maryland's director of strength and conditioning) I said 4 months ago that he would blow up at the combine. I also said that he looked like Tarzan but played like Jane...However, Campbell is a poor man's Trent Williams only he could have been had 100 picks later and together they could have been bookend tackles

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Colt Brennan sucks

Posted by: BT23 | April 24, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Lot of dbag Terp fans on here. How many crappy lineman from that school do you want? He is Mike Mamula at tackle. People were smarter this time.

Posted by: Rahtard | April 24, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Grab the Wang!

for RT

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 24, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Russellmania09: Perry Riley the #Redskins 4th round pick out of #LSU seems to project as a ILB and grew up a huge #Redskins fan acc. to his quotes.

Maybe playing inside had something to do with picking him over others.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Seattle is having a good three days.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Why would you pick B Campbell if people think it will take three years for him to develop? Just pick a guy in the 1st or 2nd round next year that will be ready in a year or two. Perry can contribute on Special Teams this year and gives us some much needed depth at ILB - now that we need 4 LB starters, vice three.

Posted by: BT23 | April 24, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Grew up a Redskin fan in Richmond? Can't go wrong with that.

Posted by: MColeman51 | April 24, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN.com:

What he brings: Riley is your prototypical linebacker with good overall size, instincts and a nose for the ball. He can clean up his angles and run fits on occasion. He shows above average point-of-attack skills, the ability to shed blocks and is a sound overall tackler.

How he fits: Riley will have the opportunity to move inside in the Redskins' 3-4 defense. London Fletcher is still one of the most dynamic, undersized linebackers in the league, but he won't last forever. Rocky McIntosh could be hard to resign as well. This was a pick for future depth.

Posted by: BT23 | April 24, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Well, since Riley was a Butkus finalist last year and Def MVP of his bowl game this year, I think there are plenty of people that have heard of him.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I guess if you were an LSU fan you might have heard of him.

Butkus finalist? Really? The only 3 Butkus finalists from the SEC: McClain from Bama, Spikes from Florida, and ... Norwood from S.C.

As for having a good bowl game, a single game does not a college career make. Norwood had 4 solid years of production. Riley? 1-2

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

As for having a good bowl game, a single game does not a college career make. Norwood had 4 solid years of production. Riley? 1-2

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 12:06 PM

What aren't you getting. You're looking at two different positions. Get with it.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Oops, Riley was a Butkus finalist in 2008 and Norwood in 2009. Norwood still had better numbers in 2008 (and in 2009 and 2007 and 2006).

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Eagles get DE Ricky Sapp. I don't like that one bit. Neither will McNabb on 3rd down.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Seattle is having a good three days.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:04 PM

Yeah and the 49'ers and Ravens as well.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Yes very bummed the Eagles got Sapp :-(

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse


Ok well obviously you are here just to talk leet internet trash and fail at trying to be clever. Thanks for your thoughts but I will agree to disagree with you and ignore you from this point on.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 11:52 AM |

Oh, no! Not that! Mike4169's gonna put me on his ITA list because I'm not clever enough.

Hey, Mike4169 -- Who do you think you are? I'm on a lot of people's ITA lists, but none of the others is as weak a poster as you. Shoot, I've been snubbed, insulted, and ignored by all the stars of this blog: dcsween, nateinthepdx, RedDMV, TheCork, diesel44, Chia_Pet, scampbell1965, etc. When you rise to their status, then you can ignore me, but you don't have the blog cred to ignore me yet. Understand?

Now, I want a heartfelt apology. Also I want to know what "leet internet trash" is.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Here's a guess. Norwood projects as an OLB, while Riley projects as an ILB. Riley was a pick for the future when Fletcher, and perhaps McIntosh, will not be on the team.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Good point. Being an alum, was still pulling for Norwood. Although, I recognize that ILB was a bigger need than OLB. Hail!

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

3. Both played LT last yr after playing RT the year before.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Diesel, this is patently false. Campbell never played RT at MD. Maybe a snap or 2 somewhere due to an injury, but I watch every MD game and I can tell you he was never at RT at MD. This guy is not a player IMO and in the opinion of the vast majority of the league's personnel guys.

Can an argument be made that he is a project at LT? Yes. But to say this guy would ever project as an NFL RT is just foolish. The only caveat would be if a team had a left handed QB, but even then, the way teams run in the NFL, he just could not play RT.


Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Eagles get DE Ricky Sapp. I don't like that one bit. Neither will McNabb on 3rd down.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 12:10 PM

Or Brandon Graham DE, Nate Allen FS, Daniel Te'O DE, Trevor Lindley CB, and Keenan Clayton LB.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Trade rumors swirling about Jason Campbell...

Posted by: CindyBoren | April 24, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

JC trade coming up soon. Hopefully.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

My name is dcsween and I approve this pick.

Look, in a 3-4, you need to keep rotating fresh LBs like you rotate DL in a 4-3. LBs become special teams stand outs right away. The Skins are NOT set at LB and haven't been since Marcus Washington left. Orakpo is best on a line and functions in a 3-4, but LB is definitely a need position.

The Bruce Campbell crappers up here have not been paying attention. The reason the guy slid so fast and so far (after posting Mamula-like Combine numbers) is because he takes plays off. You don't want that in an offensive lineman.

Posted by: dcsween | April 24, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

The eagles really know how to draft. maybe we should take a page or two outta there book. CAPERS in the 5th. book it

Posted by: zorn_sucks | April 24, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Post links about the Jason Campbell rumors or it didn't happen! ;-)

Just kidding. What are the rumors?

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Wish we had some damn picks..The Ghost of Cerrato keeps moaning low...

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah and the 49'ers and Ravens as well.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:10 PM

49er's? Who did they get at QB? That's there number 1 position of need and they still haven't picked up anyone, have they?

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Quick question for the smarter folks: Isn't the "consensus" view that the draft next year will be pretty weak?

Obviously, it depends on juniors coming out, et cetera.

But I read somewhere on these crazy tubes that it's weak/mediocre?

Posted by: SteveMG | April 24, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Im hearing the JC trading has really heated up..

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 24, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

riley is a good pick... can play all 3 or 4 lib positions... can play in any scheme... good pick...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | April 24, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Just kidding. What are the rumors?

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:18 PM

Jason LaCanfora was just on TV saying talks on Campbell are heating up and that Raiders and Buffalo might give up a fifth for him. Not sure that LaCanfora has even as much credibility as you do, but that's what I heard.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

The scores are in:

Mel Kiper - 80 out of 100
Scouts inc. - 80 out of 100

Winner again:

Rick Gosselein - Dallas Morning News -
87 out of 100

Mike Mayock does not submit his list to compete.

From The Huddle report

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 24, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

"Cox, Perrish" taken by the Broncos. Sounds like a Rosie Odonnell pick to me.

He is a solid player though!

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Seahawks get more running game ammo in Leon Washington to go with Lendale White.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Mel and Scouts tied for 14th

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 24, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

will not be a Raiders or Bills 5th, they are done for 5th round

Posted by: downindinwiddie | April 24, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Haha, Campbell is going to be riding pine as a Redskin. Neither Oakland or Buffalo would pull the trigger.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 24, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

and go figure the bills nab ed wang..

Posted by: zorn_sucks | April 24, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

damn it!!! Leon Washington traded to Seattle? That's insane. Wish we had some picks.

Posted by: overzealous08 | April 24, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

The Skins could have 52 LBs on the roster and still think they don't have enough. Should have gone OL, but if they had to go OLB, there were better ones on the boards. Parcells took AJ Edds from Iowa. He'll probably be in the pro bowl in a couple of years, while Riley will be trying to make some teams practice squad.

Posted by: anw821 | April 24, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Boy, the Seahawks made out like the freakin bandit..LEON WASHINGTON for a 5th?? Dude carried Sanchez's a** more times than I can remember last year!! Fast as hell..I want what the Jets are drinkin'...

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

The Skins could have 52 LBs on the roster and still think they don't have enough. Should have gone OL, but if they had to go OLB, there were better ones on the boards. Parcells took AJ Edds from Iowa. He'll probably be in the pro bowl in a couple of years, while Riley will be trying to make some teams practice squad.

Posted by: anw821 | April 24, 2010 12:28 PM

Ugggghhhh!!!

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

grass is always greener....

Posted by: downindinwiddie | April 24, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Jason LaCanfora was just on TV saying talks on Campbell are heating up and that Raiders and Buffalo might give up a fifth for him. Not sure that LaCanfora has even as much credibility as you do, but that's what I heard.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

LaCanfora also said yesterday the AH was definitely getting traded. Not very credible.

Posted by: anw821 | April 24, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Before you post read about the kid. I don't know anything about him either but he is projected to play ILB. We have a need there in the 3-4.

Posted by: Rahtard | April 24, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

He'll probably be in the pro bowl in a couple of years, while Riley will be trying to make some teams practice squad.

Posted by: anw821 | April 24, 2010 12:28 PM

Yeah, London Fletcher barely made the pro bowl last year as an alternate.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 24, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I'd be happy if the Redskins trade McIntosh and Campbell for players and 5th/6th rounders.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 24, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

My hope for round 5:

1. Trindon Holliday, LSU WR/KR
Height: 5-5. Weight: 161.
Projected 40 Time: 4.25.
Combine 40 Time: 4.34.
Vertical: 42. Broad: 9-8.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6.
1/19/10: A punt returner only, Trindon Holliday averaged an amazing 18.1 yards per punt return. He scored once.
Will be the fastest player at the Combine. Some team will take him as a return specialist.

2.Deji Karim, Southern Illinois RB
Height: 5-9. Weight: 210.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.37.
Benchx225: 19. Vertical: 43. Broad: 10-3.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6.
Deji Karim had a very impressive Pro Day, running a 40 in 4.37 seconds despite weighing in at 210 pounds. He also had a 43-inch vertical. Karim rushed for 1,694 yards and 18 touchdowns on a 7.1 YPC average for Southern Illinois in 2009.

3.Cam Thomas, North Carolina NT
Height: 6-4. Weight: 330.
Projected 40 Time: 5.14.
Combine 40 Time: 5.27.
Benchx225: 31. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
Cam Thomas had a great Senior Bowl performance, prompting Mike Mayock to say that Thomas may not escape out of the second round.


Posted by: abxinc | April 24, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

JReid tweets that a trade would involve Redskins receiving multiple picks for Campbell. A decision is expected soon ...

Posted by: CindyBoren | April 24, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

What aren't you getting. You're looking at two different positions. Get with it.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

No! I rely only on emotion when making my picks! Sorry, after years of Snyderatto conditioning, old habits die hard. Riley fills the bigger linebacker need (ILB), I get that. Still think Norwood is a beast though.

Anyone think we pick up a QB for Shanny to groom with the next pick? I could see that happening. I'd prefer some more o-line depth but I'm leaving these decisions up to the FO from now on. My Snyderrato condition hasn't been fully cured yet.

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I would like the see Petrus fall to the Skins and they select him.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Love hearing from all of the draft experts on here who know more then Shanahan/Allen/Haslett.

Posted by: Rusty6392 | April 24, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Family is from Richmond, Skins fan! I like it.

Plus we need this guy on coverage teams - special teams are getting shuffled around quite a bit.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 24, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

NFL network is saying that the trade partner for Campbell would be the Raiders.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Raiders and JC could be good together.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Most likely partner for Redskins at the moment in the Campbell trade talks are the Raiders.

Posted by: CindyBoren | April 24, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Get a OT, KR or RB, S.........please.. its gonna be tough competing in the NFC East this year .. still say we win 10 games and get in the playoffs

Posted by: zorn_sucks | April 24, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

And there goes Cam Thomas..

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

JReid tweets that a trade would involve Redskins receiving multiple picks for Campbell. A decision is expected soon ...

Posted by: CindyBoren | April 24, 2010 12:34 P

Thanks Cindy

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Cam Thomas to the Chargers! Really like this pick for them.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Get Lefevour to replace Campbell

Posted by: coparker5 | April 24, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

NFLN says the Skins are talking to Oakland about JC...could be happening soon.

Poor JC...dude don't deserve going to purgatory like that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 24, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

no need for cam thomas..haynesworth didnt get traded

Posted by: zorn_sucks | April 24, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

J Russel came into mini camp weighing 290lbs or something like that. I think Fat Albert H and him have the same off season work out program.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Love hearing from all of the draft experts on here who know more then Shanahan/Allen/Haslett.

Posted by: Rusty6392 | April 24, 2010 12:36 PM

Look, a lot of these guys are false prophets. They're just making it up as they go along. But Mike4169 is actually Vinny Cerrato's screen name and he REALLY does know more than the guys out at Redskins Park. He thinks we should draft a DE or a WR.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

And there goes Cam Thomas..

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 12:39 PM

Jeff Owens would be the next choicein my book if the Skins were looking for a NT. He's only 304 now, but he's one of those hard to move dudes. Plus in has some roomto add more bulk.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Love hearing from all of the draft experts on here who know more then Shanahan/Allen/Haslett.

Posted by: Rusty6392 | April 24, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Love hearing from guys talking shiite from the bench in the middle of the game.

Posted by: HTTR | April 24, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Bah Petrus taken by the Giants. :-( My hope is now that they take Tennant

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Seahawks having a helluva weekend, elevating to DefCon 3..

Posted by: frak | April 24, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Rusty6392 | April 24, 2010 12:36 PM

I dont think its that people think they know more than the FO,they have opinions. Neither one of the guys in the FO has a stellar past in the draft. Also some people here actually know what they are talking about and dont need Walter Football or nfl.com draft rankings to have a good idea about what a player can do. Its just like last year when everybody raised holy hell about the lbs that were drafted, how many of those guys are left on the team?

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 24, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the Raiders are moving on JC. We will probably get their last pick for him.
And Riley was a better move then Bruce Campbell would have been.
We need a stud tackler to stop the new beefy running backs we will face in the NFC east.

Posted by: skiir01 | April 24, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

NFLN says the Skins are talking to Oakland about JC...could be happening soon.

Poor JC...dude don't deserve going to purgatory like that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 24, 2010 12:42 PM |

From hell to purgatory is a step up.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 12:15 PM

You're right...He never started at RT, played only a couple of Qtrs at RT. All of his 17 starts were at LT.

But to say that a player that played LT in college can't play RT in the NFL is insane.

Nolan Carroll to the Phins..

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't mind giving up JC17 for picks (although I'd prefer he be our backup instead of Grossman)... but for his sake I hope he goes someone more stable than Oakland...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | April 24, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"JReid tweets that a trade would involve Redskins receiving multiple picks for Campbell. A decision is expected soon ..."

Whatever the picks are, I hope they turn into players for us.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 24, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Eagles have improved overall especially on defense but I think without McNabb they take a step back. Cowboys have added some pieces that will help them too. Not really sure about the Giants.

We have a long way to go before we are better than the others in the East but we will be more competitive without question.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

OK, what's next? What will we draft in Rd. 5? My guess is Tony Pike or a D lineman (not out of need, but a lot of DL depth in the draft)

Posted by: heyjoe728 | April 24, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

could they be trading for Bruce Campbell? and the 7th?

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 24, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Perry Riley will mean Rocky will be in camp working his tail off. With us switching to the 3-4, ILB was a position of need and this guy seems like a solid fit. Bruce Campbell is a project and is a mess technically. He would not have started at RT this year, and would have been a mistake for us.

Posted by: hokiesmokie | April 24, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: RedCherokee | April 24, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse


THIS 3-4 is just a horrible switch for a team that is not constructed for it and so lacking at crucial other spots on the field. TERRIBLE SWITCH !!

Posted by: OG_Barno | April 24, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Completely agree. I thought this was a bad idea from the get go..

Posted by: ga8085 | April 24, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

No Wang for the Skins :(

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 24, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

L-S: I don't care enough to have an ITA list. If I did you wouldn't be on it...I too much respect for the elderly.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Go get Alan Faneca, he just got released. He could add to quality depth

Posted by: ga8085 | April 24, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Faneca released. Hope the Skins look at him. Would be a huge upgrade. Not sure how he would be in a zone blocking system. Anyone know?

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Too funny....while watching the draft with a few friends and family and seeing the skins take the linebacker...A few were like..."i bet people on RI are complaining and whining bout right now...sure enough...I come in a few hours later and you guys didn't let us down! LOL

Most on here are just NEVER HAPPY!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 24, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

THIS 3-4 is just a horrible switch for a team that is not constructed for it and so lacking at crucial other spots on the field. TERRIBLE SWITCH !!

Posted by: OG_Barno | April 24, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Completely agree. I thought this was a bad idea from the get go..

Posted by: ga8085

OK it's gonna happen no matter how many times you say it..... Breath, 3 times....there , let it go......

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 24, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

But to say that a player that played LT in college can't play RT in the NFL is insane.


Posted by: Diesel44 | April 24, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

That's not what I'm saying my man. I am talking specifically about B. Campbell. Of course LTs in college can play RT in NFL, but they are usually good drive/run blockers, something Campbell is not.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"His addition could provide added competition at the linebacker slot. "

He's a linebacker, picked in the 4th round - what else is he supposed to do? Bake a cake?

Have to say the Insider's commentary over the last few days has been pretty lame.

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | April 24, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Too funny....while watching the draft with a few friends and family and seeing the skins take the linebacker...A few were like..."i bet people on RI are complaining and whining bout right now...sure enough...I come in a few hours later and you guys didn't let us down! LOL

Most on here are just NEVER HAPPY!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 24, 2010 12:52 PM

Yes I will never understand why fans of this team would never be happy. This team has won so much in the recent past! :-O

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

JC for BC and a pick? thoughts?

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 24, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Eagles get DE Ricky Sapp. I don't like that one bit. Neither will McNabb on 3rd down.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 12:10 PM

Dude,this is 2010 draft, not Warren Sapp.

Posted by: abxinc | April 24, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Raiders only have 21st pick in 6th and 8th pick in 7th left to trade, so maybe we are looking for a player, someone already drafted, or 2011 picks.

I'll say this. Anytime you can trade with the Raiders it's probably a good thing.

What would you guys do if Davis dumped a contract and sen Nnamdi to us for JC straight up?

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 24, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

He thinks we should draft a DE or a WR.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse
Actually, he wants to trade back from the fifth round, and take 3 WR's in the seventh.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 24, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I think the Raiders just traded back with Jax to load up on more picks to send us multiple picks

Posted by: TheFuzzyClam | April 24, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Last LSU Linebacker to go 103rd overall in the 4th round....Bradie James. One of the leagues better ILB's in the 3-4.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | April 24, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Actually, he wants to trade back from the fifth round, and take 3 WR's in the seventh.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 24, 2010 12:59 PM

LOL

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Jason Cambell has been traded to da Raiders fo 2 Draft picks..

Its about time!!!

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 24, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Campbell is a Raider

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

JASON THANKS FOR ALL THE TIMES. YOU NEED A FRESH START WITH A OWNER WHO LOVES TO WIN UNLIKE DANNY BOY

Posted by: skinsinsider101 | April 24, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Jason, I wish you well in Oakland.

Posted by: dashriprock | April 24, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

b. campbell is not a bum he is NOT a power drive blocker more athletic, quick some times up and down with technique going to oakland is good for him head coach was d-line coach(assistant)before going to raiders. campbell has TALENT and might even suceed there. he is NOT s.heyer. p.riley is a hard hitter.

Posted by: wathu19 | April 24, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Good for JC and good for the Redskins.
JC had his chances here and he is not a top flight QB. We will see some new excitement with this new offense under McNabb.
Now get us a tall WR.

Posted by: skiir01 | April 24, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

A 4th rounder in 2012

Posted by: TheFuzzyClam | April 24, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

WTF? Why not the remaining Raider picks?
I guess the FO was being nice to him like the Eaglets were to McNabb, pay it forward maybe.

Posted by: skiir01 | April 24, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe we have to wait till 2012

Posted by: TheFuzzyClam | April 24, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

The Skins traded back with the Fins 11 spots. 163 back to 174, and picked up an extra pick at 219.

Good trade.

Posted by: dashriprock | April 24, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

wow a TE thats the last position I thought we would have drafted

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 24, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Help! Vinny must be back

Posted by: willypops | April 24, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

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