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Sam Bradford, James Andrews speak of the Redskins and D.C.'s charms

Sam Bradford to the Redskins in a colossal, earth-shaking, NFL-rattling deal on the first day of the draft, a la the Eli Manning/Phillip Rivers swap? His doctor, James Andrews, said on this light-hearted Fox 5 interview that he likes the idea (while pointing out that he has a relationship with the Redskins).

Redskins Insider readers are pretty evenly divided about whether the team should make a move to try to get Bradford, with 50 percent of roughly 15,000 voters choosing "No."

By Cindy Boren  |  April 1, 2010; 12:15 PM ET
Categories:  NFL Draft  
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wow, 15,000 votes and no comments? Weird.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 1, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't mind seeing him as a Redskin. Obviously, we have holes in OL to fill, but if you can get a franchise QB, go for it. We can always use the rest of the draft and next year's draft to address the OL. It isn't like we are going to the Super Bowl this year.

Posted by: gwelsh | April 1, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

NO! NO! NO! Pics in the past only ignited fan excitement and that is it. If we are gonna be serious about rebuilding, we must start with the offensive line. Period!

Posted by: preacherman120022002 | April 1, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Everything you hear about the draft and potential draftees is all smoke screen. If Shanahan and Allen are really good at what they do, they will sing praises about all potentail top 5 picks so that it will entice someone to move up to #4. That way the Redskins can move down and get other picks in this draft... We can only hope!

Posted by: skinfannomore | April 1, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Make Moves? Well it depends on what those moves may be. If it means giving up picks ala the Rivers/Manning trade, then the answer is hell no. If we package some players (maybe Carter) with that 4th pick then it may be worth looking at. The Rams would most likely want a scenario closer to the Manning deal, but in my opinion the Giants got fleeced on that deal and I would not want to repeat it.

Posted by: Skins281 | April 1, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I still say Clausen is better, but if Okung is there he's the pick.

This was an old poll question they just reposted it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 1, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

My vote is "no" on making a move to get him, but yes if he is there at #4

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 1, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

No, No, a MILLION times NO! Bradford is a china doll who would be on IR almost immediately.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 1, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

It's mystifying, the influence wielded by Dr. James Andrews in the sports world.

Here's a vociferous NO on any "trade up" shenanigans in this draft. It's pretty simple: this team has too many areas of need to give away draft picks this year or next.

We oughta get a stud LT at #4 and a stud RT at #36, then with either our third or fourth pick we get a blue-chip C/G type. That's the best possible outcome in this draft, in my opinion.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 1, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

wow, 15,000 votes and no comments? Weird.

Posted by: dlhaze1

Yeah did they just put 2 guys in a room together and have one click 'yes' and the other click 'no' until their fingers locked up?

Posted by: Predator48 | April 1, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

We oughta get a stud LT at #4 and a stud RT at #36, then with either our third or fourth pick we get a blue-chip C/G type. That's the best possible outcome in this draft, in my opinion.

Posted by: NateinthePDX
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Hey Nate,
If we don't trade down to pick up two picks to help fill holes, I could really agree with your scenario 100%

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 1, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

At first I was against getting Bradford but in reading some of the posts I believe
there are several good prospects for the OL in this draft. I say if Bradford is there then go for him and get OT later If not go for OKLUNG or BERRY

Posted by: masgap | April 1, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

At first I was against getting Bradford but in reading some of the posts I believe
there are several good prospects for the OL in this draft. I say if Bradford is there then go for him and get OT later If not go for OKLUNG or BERRY

Posted by: masgap | April 1, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I kinda like "Oklung" from masgap.

Posted by: CindyBoren | April 1, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Cindy pulled the ol' okey-doke... this poll appeared a few days back on a previous thread, hence the high vote count.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 1, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Sam Bradford can talk about DC's "charms?" does this mean he's already been to Camelot?

Posted by: mdrockjock | April 1, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

If Shanahan likes Clausen I'd rather they get him at #4 then trade away the farm to move up and get Bradford.

Posted by: skinswest | April 1, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you, Ray, I just think it's unlikely -- though not impossible -- that we'll be able to trade down.

Three weeks to the draft...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 1, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Who says this O-line will suck next year?

I honestly think Shanahan may be able to get more out of this group than ole' "swinging gate" Zorn.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 1, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Such a stupid survey!

The answer depends on the deal.

If making a move means trading JC 17, Carlos, Carter, Cooley, and Montgomery - and we still get to keep our #4 pick, then maybe the answer is yes.

If making the deal means we trade this years and next years #1 and #2 picks, then HELL no.

Posted by: edvar | April 1, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Hooray for the American Lung Assn (Central States)

http://oklung.org/

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 1, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Who says this O-line will suck next year?

I honestly think Shanahan may be able to get more out of this group than ole' "swinging gate" Zorn.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 1, 2010 12:51 PM

Perhaps you forgot that the line was coached by Buges?...

Posted by: edvar | April 1, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Who really cares who we draft. Historically, we have been better in the late rounds anyways. A few first round gems, but many more from the second round up!

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=5110&type=team

Posted by: mjames1 | April 1, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Hand-me down polls now?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 1, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

We oughta get a stud LT at #4 and a stud RT at #36, then with either our third or fourth pick we get a blue-chip C/G type.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 1, 2010 12:37 PM

"LT-RT-C/G"

Posted by: 4-12 | April 1, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

rick, you're kidding right? I mean, suddenly Heyer is gonna be able to stop speed rushers, and run block, Raback is suddenly going to stop getting blown up into the backfield, and Samuels is gonna borrow my time machine, and come back as the 2001 version of Chris Samuels??

Apply logic here, and you'll come to the same conclusion EVERY time.

They need a LT. They need RT. BOTH need to start DAY-1. Otherwise, Heyer is your starting either R, or L tackle, and we've kinda seen those results.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 1, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

rickyroge, I say that this O line (as is) would suck this year.

You're aware that we don't have any starting tackles on the roster, right?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 1, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

No, very definitely no. I am stunned that almost 50% would actually want to see us continuing with the same behaviour which got us the ageing and talent poor roster that we are saddled with now.

If he is available at 4 and Okung has gone, then I'd be fine with Bradford.

I'd cope if we traded up by packaging our 4th with Jason Campbell for the Rams's first and third, but there is no way that is happening.

Now is the time to stop mortgaging our future by trading away draft picks. I'll be apoplectic if they trade away future number ones. Bradford looks pretty good, but it's not like he is an Elway type talent. There is too little depth on this team to drop a lot of picks on a single player.

Now if they wanted to take Haynesworth of our hands for their number one or maybe a package of Haynesworth, Carter and Campbell for their first and second, I would be on cloud nine.

There is no chance that is going to happen, although realistically they could well get far more production from three veterans than they might get from two rookies who may not make it past their first contract.

Having paid Albert's bonus today they would be getting him cheap, so not only would they avoid the cost of paying a number one pick, they would get an elite defensive player and have much of his salary covered by another owner. Again, there is no way it's happening but it could work for both teams.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | April 1, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

50% said yes to get Bradford. I love these April fools day jokes. HaHaHa You guys.

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | April 1, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Dang you, Nate, you're on to my trix. I was just going to refer to the poll, then remembered it was still live and fairly fresh; it passed the sniff test.

Posted by: CindyBoren | April 1, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Espn Insider is pimping some kind of move where DET moves back. Also mongering a move of SEA G Sims to Det.

Detroit thinks they are good at LT, its G where they were getting completely blown up last year.

Anybody got a line on ESPN Insider?

Seems to me DET is the biggest threat to take Okung before the 4 and that any move where they move back is a good thing.

Oh I almost forgot. Sunshine is occurring AGAIN here in early morning Hawaii. Thought you would all want to know.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 1, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

If the deal is to send them our #4, Rogers, Carter, and Campbell then yes. If its send them a package of picks then no.

An upgrade at QB (one that can read a D, get rid of the ball quickly, and is accurate) would make the line better in and of itself. Everyone points to like two plays last season where JC got sacked on a 3 step drop as evidence that "doesn't matter who the QB is behind this line". There were also plenty of instances where Campbell's indecision, and failure to get the ball out caused sacks as well. Our oline needs help, and regardless of whether they draft a QB early or not it will be upgraded. If they think Bradford/Clausen present a chance to upgrade at QB then they should do it.

Personally, I'm hoping we stay put and get Clausen at 4, trade our #2 to Bmore for Gaither and then take a tackle in the 4th and 5th rounds as well. If we could trade Campbell for a pick mores the better but even if not that scenario is what I'm hoping for, Gaither is very young still yet has proven he's a upper echelon LT in the NFL, there's very little risk there.

KC Joyner's analysis of Gaither:

"Gaither has been a starter for the past two seasons and in that time his metrics have been nothing short of superb. He has allowed only seven total sacks in 27 games and only one of these was a one-on-one sack (defined as when a defender beats a blocker in a one-on-one environment and tackles the quarterback in the pocket within three seconds of the snap). That illustrates Gaither's dominant pass blocking skills, but his run blocking numbers are also quite notable. Gaither was at the Point of Attack (POA) on 300 running plays the past two years and he won his block 255 times, or 85 percent of the time. That is a solid number on its own, but his 2009 POA win rate of 89.0 percent is even more noteworthy. To put that total into perspective, consider that in a typical NFL season, a little less than one out of ten offensive linemen will crack the 90 percent POA win mark. Gaither was on the precipice of that mark last year despite battling injuries."

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 1, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Dang you, Nate, you're on to my trix. I was just going to refer to the poll, then remembered it was still live and fairly fresh; it passed the sniff test.


Posted by: CindyBoren | April 1, 2010 1:03 PM |

I was the first one to post it why you giving Nate credit.

This was an old poll question they just reposted it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 1, 2010 12:35 PM |

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 1, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I say we unload Campbell, Fat Al, and the number 4 for Carricker, their 3rd, and Bradford. I know, wishful thinking. Basically if Bradford is gone and Okung is available our pick is already made.

Posted by: Ahoff829 | April 1, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Skins are cursed...
All the QBs picked in the 1st Round by the Skins have been resounding Busts!!

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 1, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Why the Redskins PR department is full of idiots. From earlier today on RI:


Based on Lombardi's report, we again sought comment from the team about whether Cerrato remains on the payroll in some sort of advisory capacity. "We are not going to comment," team spokesman Zack Bolno wrote in a text message to a reporter.


We are not going to comment?!!!!!!!?? You're unwilling to say if the guy works for you? How insane is that? At least Cerrato had the decency to respond with an answer 'no'. The Skins PR dept is a basket case.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 1, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I think Dr. Andrew wants Bradfor with the 'skins because he knows Bradford behind the Redskins current line will keep the good doctor busy and his surgical skills finely tuned.

Posted by: TheCork | April 1, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

wow, 15,000 votes and no comments? Weird.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 1, 2010 12:29 PM
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I think the WaPo does this for its Advertising Rate Card.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 1, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Rr, I say the O line will suck, we haven't even signed Levi jones. If we get okung or bulaga AND sign jones, well now your talking

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 1, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Apologies, Flounder! Would some Post Points make you feel better?

Posted by: CindyBoren | April 1, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Apologies, Flounder! Would some Post Points make you feel better?

Posted by: CindyBoren | April 1, 2010 1:11 PM |

Thats OK Cindy, yes 1000 points should cover it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 1, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Sam Bradford is damaged goods with a shoulder that will never be fully healed or strong enough to survive the punishment it will endure. If the Skins take him, it shows that nothing in the org has changed and they will have another miserable season.

Posted by: EdgarFriendly | April 1, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

here's Dan's multi-layered strategy in moving up to get Bradford..

We get a Great QB AND...

The Skins will have a native american playing QB and wearing Redskins merchandise and who will say (for about 60 million dollars) that he sees no problem with the name "Redskins".
Discrimination Case closed and complaints neutralized.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 1, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

With all the coverage of QBs, I haven't seen any coverage here of Colt McCoy's pro day at Texas. Did the Skins send any scouts? Are they planning to bring him in for a visit? Has anyone asked Shanahan about him?

I've seen a lot of suggestions that he could/should be the second round pick if we draft OT in the first round. That's a plan I like. McCoy is a hell of a lot better as a QB prospect than Tebow and appears to possess some of the same intangibles. Doesn't have the best arm but it seems like scouts think it's "good enough" in the right system.

Posted by: manifested | April 1, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

They need a LT. They need RT. BOTH need to start DAY-1. Otherwise, Heyer is your starting either R, or L tackle, and we've kinda seen those results.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 1, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I think Artis Hicks may be the starting RT this year. Mike Williams the starting RG and a rookie will be starting at LT.

LT - rookie (1st or 2nd rounder)
LG - Dockery
C - Rabach
RG - Williams
RT - Hicks

I wouldn't mind them taking two tackles in the first two rounds, but I doubt it happens. Campbell isn't the QB for Shanahan long term.

Posted by: dfbovey | April 1, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Flound, don't take em, I'm still trying to unload these stinking bonus points from 3 years ago.......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 1, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Flounder was on this first ("First!").

I see no issue with re-using a poll. It reminds us how foolish we once were, and how foolish we remain.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 1, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Sam Bradford is damaged goods with a shoulder that will never be fully healed or strong enough to survive the punishment it will endure. If the Skins take him, it shows that nothing in the org has changed and they will have another miserable season.

Posted by: EdgarFriendly | April 1, 2010 1:13 PM |

I don't want Bradford but comments like this are stupid, what hospital do you work for Doc.

Was Drew Brees damaged goods that never healed, the Saints didn't think so what has he done lately.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 1, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad I haven't heard much about Colt McCoy and the Skins. His dad worked or is working for the Cowpies and he is a big fan.
We don't need a fox in the hen house.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 1, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 1, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Gaither was drafted in the 5th round of the Supplemental Draft. Point being that there will be several quality linemen in the later rounds this year, while Okung may be the real deal, he also may end up the next Robert Gallery. If Bradford is not there, I think Berry is the guy.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 1, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Flound, don't take em, I'm still trying to unload these stinking bonus points from 3 years ago.......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 1, 2010 1:15 PM |

Bean,

I'm going to take them and then give them to you for our birthday.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 1, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

hicks=depth, and more suited to G, than T. So if we're relying on him at RT, then its Heyer redux...

Thats called stagnancy....and not making forward progress, and when you think about it, there is no such thing as true stagnancy, and this would be more regression.......

If they go, LT/RT, then you've put pieces in place to solidify the line, the MOST important piece of a team.

Think about this, do people think JC will last another season getting beaten like he did last year??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 1, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Since when do you start rebuilding a franchise with a LT?

The Snyder show is dead!!!!!!

Mike/Bruce/Dan are in the process of rebuilding this entire team and that starts with a QB

Now, if there is not one, then fine. But you better believe that if the skins jump up to get Bradford or stay @ 4 and get Clausen (my choice) it's a great day to be a skins fan

Posted by: byrdinthesky | April 1, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Oh my gosh - Post Points again! - I think Beantown Greg still has a bunch, but maybe he spent them on an earthquake relief Aircraft Carrier.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 1, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

No, don't need him, and most definitely don't want him.

Some might try to make him the face of the franchise and then where would Haynesworth, Portis and Cooley be?

Besides, Bradford is too smart, able and accomplished to succeed in this town.

Bring back JC17!

Posted by: Vic1 | April 1, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Just to be clear, Naee, I wasn't being snarky [I leave that to the professional snarkers up here]. I fully support your idea of "LT-RT-C/G"

Posted by: 4-12 | April 1, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

a qb that reads the D better and gets rid of the ball quicker DOES NOT make the line better. Better lineman makes the line better.

And, a QB that reads a COLLEGE D better than Campbell reads a PRO D , is comparing tangerines to oranges

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 1, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 1, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Campbell can read a defense?

Posted by: westjr88 | April 1, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 1, 2010 1:03 PM

Not a bad idea, except you better have the deal for Gaither in place before the draft. Otherwise, the Skins will have to give up more than a second for him.

Posted by: TWISI | April 1, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

4-12, I'd love, love, love for us to go "OT-OT-C/G" in the draft. I can't imagine any Redskin fan complaining about that.

Er, except for all the fans who would find a reason to complain about that. As I have been complaining about WR-TE-WR lo these many years.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 1, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I don't think he'll be there at 4 and I don't like any trade-up scenario that involves sending picks away.... That said, of course you draft him if he falls to 4. But in the real world that aint going to happen, so draft Okung.

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | April 1, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

36 QBs threw 160 or more passes last season:

Top 5 pick:
peyton, eli, Rivers, Palmer, Ryan, mcnabb, Stafford, A Smith, Sanchez, Young, JaMarcus, K Collins

1st round picks, 6th overall or later:
Cutler, Campbell, Rodgers, Flacco, big Ben, Freeman, Quinn, Boller

2nd round picks:
Favre, Brees, Henne

Later round (3 or later):
Schaub, Brady, Orton, Garrard, Cassel, Bulger, Hasselback, Fitzpatrick, Edwards, D Anderson

not picked:
romo, Warner, Delhomme

Obviously, this doesn't account for the picks that didn't make it.

Below is the top ten by 2009 QB rating. Instead of putting in the name, I put in their draft slot:

2nd round
2nd round
Top 5
1st round
1st round
Top 5
Later round
Not drafted
Later round
Not drafted

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 1, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

BRADFORD first pick, OKUNG second pick, SUH third pick, now what? Who wants to trade up for:

QB - JIMMY CLAUSEN #2, TIM TEBOW #3.
C - MAURKICE POUNCEY #1, J.D. WALTON #2.
OG - MIKE IUPATI #1, JOE ASAMOAH #2.
OT - BRYAN BULAGA #2, BRUCE CAMPBELL #3.
WR - DEZ BRYANT #1, GOLDEN TATE #2.
TE - JERMAINE GRESHAM #1, RON GRONKOWSKI #2.
RB - C.J. SPILLER #1, RYAN MATHEWS #2.
DE - DERRICK MORGAN #1, JASON PIERRE-PAUL. #2.
DT - GERALD McCOY #2, DAN WILLIAMS #3.
LB - ROLANDO McCLAIN #1, SEAN WITHERSPOON #2.
CB - JOE HADEN #1, KYLE WILSON #2.
FS - ERIC BERRY #1, EARL THOMAS #2.

Nobody IMO.

I see primary REDSKIN needs #1 and least need #10.

1 - OT.
2 - QB.
3 - LB.
4 - FS.
5 - DT.
6 - C.
7 - CB.
8 - RB.
9 - WR.
10- K, P, ST.

So who do you take? A #2 player in a primary position of need, or a #1 player in a secondary position of need? All these players and needs are negotiable of course. I'll be called brain-dead for even postulating my take by any number of "experts" here. Everybody sees them differently, and everybody got one. This is just my list.

And the answer to my question is......I have no idea what the REDSKINS will do in the draft. Like you, I've got to wait and see.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 1, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

since when do you rebuild with a LT, ask Samuels. Isnt that what Parcells did in Miami?? I may not have credibility, but parcells did it. Good point though, not really

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 1, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

glawrence007:

Sorry I couldn't get back to you yesterday. We were off the Jersey coast with not much signal.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 1, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

As much as I know that we need a LT...you have to think of it like this: the most important player on the offense is the QB...then your LT to protect him. If you have to choose between getting a franchise QB or LT you gotta get the QB everytime. But you better be sure he's got what it takes. I trust that whatever decision Shanny makes will be the right one.

Posted by: n8skins | April 1, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

west jr:

I think all the folks I went to college with are a bit older that you. Have you heard of MARGARET ARMISTEAD? She's in real estate I think, and was in my wife's and my wedding as an attendant.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 1, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I know a Margaret Armistead, that's my 2nd cousin, but she is like 85yrs old.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 1, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

westjr:

Sorry dude, can't wait. Grandson's baseball game two hours away. Gotta' roll. Try this evening around eight o'clock.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 1, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

To suggest that because Jimmy Clausen will be a bust on the basis that he went to the same school as Rick Mirer or Brady quinn is total ignorance.

To say that jimmy Clausen will be a bust because some so-called TV gurus so so is absurd.

This kid can play and is perfect for the NFL and Mike/Kyle.

This is a done deal. They don't want Bradford or Tebow.

It's time for Skins fans to deal with it and love you're team.

The only thing we need to intelligently discuss is how and where do we get a LT, either for the future or for the right now

Posted by: byrdinthesky
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But even more absurd and ignorant would be believing the opinion of SG commenting on a blog.

Posted by: closer44 | April 1, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

westjr:

Just checked before shutting down. Maybe her mom. MA would be in her mid-sixties, maybe 63-65.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 1, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Good luck with the baseball game

Posted by: westjr88 | April 1, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

With all the coverage of QBs, I haven't seen any coverage here of Colt McCoy's pro day at Texas. Did the Skins send any scouts? Are they planning to bring him in for a visit? Has anyone asked Shanahan about him?

I've seen a lot of suggestions that he could/should be the second round pick if we draft OT in the first round. That's a plan I like. McCoy is a hell of a lot better as a QB prospect than Tebow and appears to possess some of the same intangibles. Doesn't have the best arm but it seems like scouts think it's "good enough" in the right system.

Posted by: manifested

Reports last night were that McCoy had an EXCELLENT Pro Day (don't they all?). NONE of his balls hit the ground and he was more creative than Bradford.

Mike McCarthy liked him better than Bradford. Don't know if any Skins were in attendance.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 1, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I say make the move for Bradford why not yeah I know "build through the draft" and all that but I feel that if we trade for Jared gaither and trade for Bradford write this draft off as the last vinny f* €k up and roll the dice on a possible great QB. I don't think the redskins will have this high of a pick for a while so use it to get the best QB prospect in the last few years I know alot of you will disagree but I think the redskins is the perfect place for Bradford he could sit for a year learn from shanahan what to do and learn from JC17 what not to do. Bradford could be Peyton manning like. Smart accurate leader and teammate not like clausen Please don't draft clausen dude has the highest arc I've ever seen on the bombs he throws he will be picked more than...grossmen. I guess the point I am trying to make is that it will be harder to find a "francise QB" than to find a "francise tackle". Last point I also think shanahan can teach the o-linemen we have now to block in the "zone blocking scheme" and get more out of them. More than he can teach Campbell to play QB.

HAIL!!!

Posted by: Superman321 | April 1, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm not convinced there are decent OTs for the RT position in the 2nd Round. that's why I'm against drafting two Tackles high. we do need a starter and one for depth for sure.

Posted by: Veretax | April 1, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I promised myself I would never discuss politics on RI, but the relentless flogging of this non-story day-in-day out has pushed me to note the great similarity to the Post's obsessive coverage of Sara Palin.

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 1, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

As noted earlier, an incredibly dumb survey, since the right answer depends on the deal.

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | April 1, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

If Shanahan likes Clausen I'd rather they get him at #4 then trade away the farm to move up and get Bradford.
Posted by: skinswest
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I agree.. Rams will want the farm to trade their number one pick.. take Clausen and then the Skins will still have other picks to get OLmen later maybe even trade the 2nd pick to get Gaither from Balt..

Posted by: sovine08 | April 1, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I'm hoping we stay put and get Clausen at 4, trade our #2 to Bmore for Gaither and then take a tackle in the 4th and 5th rounds as well. If we could trade Campbell for a pick mores the better but even if not that scenario is what I'm hoping for, Gaither is very young still yet has proven he's a upper echelon LT in the NFL, there's very little risk there.
Posted by: zjfr2
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I agree get Gaither before the draft for the number 2 pick and then we don't have to worry about the Lions drafting Okung. At #4 draft Clausen. Many rate him higher than Bradford anyway.. It's crazy to give away what we would have to to get the Rams #1pick.. Bradford and Clausen are both listed as top 5 QBs.. nothing wrong in standing pat and getting the one the Rams don't want...

Posted by: sovine08 | April 1, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

No need to trade up. Shanny will get either Bradford, Okung, or Clausen at #4. The lowest rated of the 3 just might wind up making the biggest impact as a pro player.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 1, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Tough choices to make...the "wheels" get the big bucks to make the decisions...we can only hope they do!!

Posted by: herbertfoley7 | April 1, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Tough choices to make...the "wheels" get the big bucks to make the decisions...we can only hope they do!!

Posted by: herbertfoley7 | April 1, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Make Moves? Well it depends on what those moves may be. If it means giving up picks ala the Rivers/Manning trade, then the answer is hell no. If we package some players (maybe Carter) with that 4th pick then it may be worth looking at. The Rams would most likely want a scenario closer to the Manning deal, but in my opinion the Giants got fleeced on that deal and I would not want to repeat it.

Posted by: Skins281 | April 1, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Giants got fleeced on that deal? I'm pretty sure the Giants fans are happy with that deal considering they have a ring now.

Posted by: Melissa1091 | April 1, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Sam Bradford is damaged goods with a shoulder that will never be fully healed or strong enough to survive the punishment it will endure. If the Skins take him, it shows that nothing in the org has changed and they will have another miserable season.

Posted by: EdgarFriendly | April 1, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Drew Brees had the same surgery Bradford did by the same doctor...Look at him now. Of course, there is a risk with taking Bradford, and I am not saying the Skins should take him but you shouldn't just count Bradford out as damaged goods.

Posted by: Melissa1091 | April 1, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: League-Source | April 1, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

what purpose will it serve, yes you get a QB but N.Y. had an O line when Manning came or was building it better.. Skins got no O line so we get a QB still being hit all over the place. The best option really for value is to trade down for extra pick .Shanny already said he likes Tebow and he is slotted in a later rounds so that is better option or you work on next year seniors. With a draft heavy in O linemen we can get a starter a back up and a D player.. I got no problem saying it, LOOK HOW THE CAPS REBUILT.. PICS AND LOOK AT THE FARM TEAMS RECORD.. if we do anything else but that.. we are still spinning our wheels , an not going to be serious in the East even...let alone the NFC. You need 1st and 2nd line we don't even have a 1st . Be smart use this pick for best results..wisely work the SYSTEM as the CAPS HAVE

Posted by: cw7thmd | April 1, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

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