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Snyder's draft preference for Redskins? 'Perennial Pro Bowl guy' in draft

Vinny Cerrato, Washington's former executive vice president of football operations, once told me that if the Redskins have a top-10 draft pick, owner Daniel Snyder wants "a perennial Pro Bowl guy."

Including the 1999 draft, which occurred before Snyder officially took control of the franchise, the Redskins have held selections in the first 10 picks of the draft six times:

1999, No. 7: CB Champ Bailey
2000, No. 2: LB LaVar Arrington; No. 3 -- OT Chris Samuels
2004, No. 5: S Sean Taylor
2005, No. 9: CB Carlos Rogers
2007, No. 6: S LaRon Landry

To be sure, there are many Pro Bowlers on that list. But Rogers and Landry, the team's last two top-10 picks, have not reached the elite level. Washington currently holds the fourth overall pick in the three-day draft (April 22-24).

Washington's first pick under the direction of Coach Mike Shanahan could help lay the foundation for what Redskins fans hope will be a return to the glory years of Joe Gibbs 1.0. And if the Redskins select a quarterback who becomes a perennial Pro Bowler, then Snyder should be very happy.

Schedule update

The NFL expects to release its preseason schedule at 3 p.m. today. No word yet on the release of the regular-season schedule; Brian McCarthy of the NFL (@nflprguy) tweeted Tuesday that the schedule isn't done yet. There's nothing unusual about that; there was talk Tuesday that April 13 might be the release date, but that's just buzz at this point. The schedule does typically come out around then.

By Jason Reid  |  March 31, 2010; 6:52 AM ET
Categories:  Daniel M. Snyder , Jason Reid , NFL Draft  
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Comments

Nice... How many teams pick in the top ten and don't want a perennial Pro Bowl guy. Oh yeah the Raiders they just want a fast guy.

Posted by: krichardson7777 | March 31, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Stupid post since Snyder has no say in who the team drafts, I'm sure he would be happy with an O-Line guy who's a perennial Pro bowler as well. Plus the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest not a true measure of the best players in the league.

J-Ried you are really bad at this job I can't believe I miss JLC.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Rogers and Landry, the team's last two top-10 picks, have not reached the elite level.

By Jason Reid | March 31, 2010; 6:52 AM ET

Elite level? These guys haven't gone beyond the delete level.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

So, this article basically quotes a guy who is no longer with team quoting a guy who no longer is involved in draft days? On the more intense side of the news, moss is growing once more on the trees in Capitol green...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

What do all the other owners want out of a top 10 pick a bum who can't play, is this really news that an owner wants a great player out of a top 10 pick.

How many other teams have missed on top 10 picks, I'm sure we have the only two guys picked in the top 10 since 1999 that haven't reached elit status.

Maybe you should let this new girl Tracee Hamilton take over I'm sure it could'nt be any worse.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

And, for more in-depth investigative journalism, the color black is still black this morning and there is a distinct chance that the sun will set on the capitol this evening. Now, back to you J. Reid, for some of the more frivolous commentary...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Who gives a flying f*ck what Snyder wants? He got what he wanted for 10 years...time for something new.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

So, this article basically quotes a guy who is no longer with team quoting a guy who no longer is involved in draft days? On the more intense side of the news, moss is growing once more on the trees in Capitol green...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 7:38 AM |

Urgent news Break!!!!!!!

This just in from the news desk the Sun rose in the east today, and will set in the West tonight.

Now back to are regularly scheduled program "Dan Snyder wants a pro bowl player with a top ten pick."

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder once told Vinny "At Six Flags, I want a ride that people will keep coming back for, over and over." Of course, Snyder is basically toast at Six Flags. But -- and this is important -- he once said of Johnny Rocket's, "We need to find ketchup for the fries that has that 'wow factor.'"

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Just more evidence that little Danny Snyder is a moron: if what you're looking for is a "perennial Pro Bowl guy", then draft the best long snapper, punter, and safety in the first three rounds. And guess what? You'll still suck.

What the tiny tyrant doesn't understand is you need to build a TEAM.

When you have crying needs, you have to fill them. For example, there is NO EXCUSE for this team not to draft offensive linemen, plural, this year. Doesn't matter if they have higher rated fullbacks or tight ends on their board -- they have to reach for need. That's because they've following the dwarf's halfwitted philosophy for so many years that this team is in desperate condition (and don't blame his useful idiot, Vinny, who was just a yes-man).

Worst. Owner. In. Football.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Can anyone help. . .what has happened to Levi Jones? IMO, he is a much better RT option vs. Heyer. Anyone heard anything?

Posted by: mjames1 | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Hey, J. Reid, since you apparently don't have much to do these days, why don't you give us some meaningful color pieces to while away our time?

-Why don't you interview Sonny Jorgensen and find out how he really felt about Jim Zorn's play-calling? I am sure now that Zorn is gone he might be a little bit more forthcoming on why he felt Zorn was a moron for not letting his QB call audibles...

-Why don't you interview Ladell Betts to find out how his rehab is going and if he really thought Clinton Portis was a prima donna, and how he thinks Jason Campbell is doing.

-Since health care discussions are all the rage, why don't you inform us about how the NFL's healthcare policy works? Who pays for their healthcare after they leave the NFL? What about workers compensation for the injuries they incur during their playing time?

-Why not do an expose on how much the NFLPA is making since they want to say how the teams are taking advantage of them...

-How about interviewing some of the players about the Rothliesberger situation and what they do to avoid getting themselves in such sticky situations? Do they think Big Ben is guilty? You could also throw Anthony Mix in there as a former player for the Redskins that fell into his own thicket of trouble.

-Since the draft is coming up, why don't you fill us in on how these draft day trades come to fruition. If teams only have ten minutes to make their picks and sometimes trades happen with those ten minutes, there should be a lot of upfront conversations with other teams' management. How do teams do this without tipping their hat too much on what they plan to do on draft day?

If you need any more suggestions, come to the posters on RI and we'll tell you what we want to hear about. Beats the heck out of sucking eggs with what you just wrote.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

LS,

Theres only one brand of Ketchup and that is Heinz anything less is uncivilized and watery.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Worst. Owner. In. Football.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM

Most. Boring. Poster. On. Redskins. Insider.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Anyone heard anything?

Posted by: mjames1 | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM

Story is that he wants a two-year contract. Redskins offered him one year and no one else has offered him a two-year contract. The bet here is that after the draft a few teams will be cutting guys who are better than Levi and the 'Skins will choose from that group.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Just more evidence that little Danny Snyder is a moron: if what you're looking for is a "perennial Pro Bowl guy", then draft the best long snapper, punter, and safety in the first three rounds. And guess what? You'll still suck.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM |

Did you actually read the post it said he wanted a pro bowl player with the top ten pick not with all the picks.

He is far from the worst owner in football, and he has no say in the draft anymore.

I knew this story would reel in a few fish.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Theres only one brand of Ketchup and that is Heinz anything less is uncivilized and watery.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 7:55 AM


100% agree. I literally refuse to give my business to any place that uses Hunt's.

Even Communists hate Hunt's...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

If you need any more suggestions, come to the posters on RI...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM

He'd probably say "Hey, I get a lot of e/m's from you guys wondering what kind of player Snyder likes to draft in the top 10." And given some of the posters up here, that's probably true.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Lisa, you're right, only you forgot Jason Campbell.

Posted by: wagman1 | March 31, 2010 12:04 AM |

And Heath Shuler and Patrick Ramsey

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 31, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

After doing my breaking new post I find my self reading everything in that voice from the cartoons.

You know the guy who comes on and says:

"Good evening Mr. and Mrs. America from border to border and coast to coast and all the ships at sea.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

League-Source. . . Thanks!


Anyone heard anything?

Posted by: mjames1 | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM

Story is that he wants a two-year contract. Redskins offered him one year and no one else has offered him a two-year contract. The bet here is that after the draft a few teams will be cutting guys who are better than Levi and the 'Skins will choose from that group.

Posted by: mjames1 | March 31, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Report: McNabb doesn't want to play for the Raiders
Posted by Mike Florio on March 31, 2010 7:06 AM ET
As the Donovan McNabb derby quietly continues to churn, the folks at TMZ report that McNabb doesn't want to play for the Raiders.

Um. Who does?

Per the report, a source close to McNabb says he would "refuse the trade."

Um. He can't.

Just ask Richard Seymour. Does anyone really think that his decision to wait six days to show up after being shipped to Oakland had anything to do with anything other than Seymour not wanting to play for the Raiders -- and ultimately realizing he had no other options? Sure, Seymour eventually said all the right things, but we tend to give equal (if not more) weight to actions.

McNabb has no choice, either. He can try to make the Raiders not want him. He can try to lobby the Eagles to keep him. In the end, however, McNabb has two possible paths -- play for the team that holds his rights for 2010 and get paid, or don't play and not get paid.

So what would happen after 2010? This gets back to the point we made over the weekend. The franchise tag may not be available in 2011, given the precise (and somewhat vague) language of the labor agreement. If it's available, the Raiders would have to choose between Seymour and McNabb.

Then there's the reality that the Eagles may be inclined to take a little less from the Raiders then they'd take from a "contending" team, since the worst-case scenario for the Eagles would be to see McNabb go to a franchise that has a chance to win a Super Bowl, and then to see McNabb accomplish that which he couldn't do in 11 years in Philly.

Bottom line? McNabb has no real say in this matter. Sure, he can try to scare the Raiders away. But despite their on-field struggles over the past several years, the Raiders are smart enough to know that McNabb, if push comes to shove, will show up and play.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Worst. Owner. In. Football.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM

Most. Boring. Poster. On. Redskins. Insider.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 7:55 AM
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It's. The. Period. That. Makes. The. Difference.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

If you need any more suggestions, come to the posters on RI...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM

He'd probably say "Hey, I get a lot of e/m's from you guys wondering what kind of player Snyder likes to draft in the top 10." And given some of the posters up here, that's probably true.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 8:02 AM
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Don't they have sports editors here that can tell them to come up with something better? Sigh. I guess this is news when compared to the liberal drivel the rest of the Post prints...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Obviously a slow offseason and some grasping for new threadage. Pretty thin...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 31, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

So woke up this morning to the local sports talk radio guys going out of their minds because Tebow spend the first 2 days of this week in Boston, visiting with the pats.

We're all not that different when you come right down to it......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Snyder hired a GM and credible head coach when noone thought he would...

He's got a clean slate with me...


You think Snyder's bad...move to Oakland.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 31, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

You think Snyder's bad...move to Oakland.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 31, 2010 8:16 AM |

Or Buffalo, Detroit, Jacksonville

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Theres only one brand of Ketchup and that is Heinz anything less is uncivilized and watery.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 7:55 AM

100% agree. I literally refuse to give my business to any place that uses Hunt's.

Even Communists hate Hunt's...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 8:01 AM

As far as condiments go...Boars Head brand everything, they don't make a ketchup so of course it's Heinz. Hunt's rhymes with something…

I wonder what Tracey Hamilton uses.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 31, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

You think Snyder's bad...move to Oakland.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 31, 2010 8:16 AM


Al Davis can at least claim dementia...what's Snyder's excuse?

Snyder isn't off the hook until he goes no less than 3 consecutive offseasons without meddling in the football operation. I'm not willing to give him credit for changing or saying we finally have continuity here until that sort of time passes.

I mean, we were saying a lot of this same stuff when Marty came here years ago, didn't we?

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

In as much as I hate to admit it, I must agree with Snidely on this one. If given a chance, you draft winners.

That's not saying that every signing works out as planned, but in football as in business...

You hire winners and get rid of losers.

Just sayin...

Posted by: Vic1 | March 31, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Hunt's rhymes with something…

I wonder what Tracey Hamilton uses.


Posted by: Diesel44 | March 31, 2010 8:21 AM


LOL...that's cold blooded, dude.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

INNANE. Of course, he wants a perennial Pro-Bowler with EVERY selection. How f-ing stupid. REID you're a waste. What a waste of my time. OUT!!!!

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 31, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

bw26-

Hunt's rhymes with bundt cake. Not sure what you mean by cold, but when warm they can be quite tasty.

When I'm at a social gathering and someone asks me if they can get me anything, I always ask for a bundt cake.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 31, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

You know what I miss?

Calling it "tomato ketchup."

Yeah, in the old old days, you could make pickled salty syrup out of all kinds of plant matter, and it was all ketchup.

Actually I like the old spelling of 'catsup' a lot, too, but that's another post. I'll save that for breaking news.

Posted by: farstriker | March 31, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

You hire winners and get rid of losers.

Just sayin...

Posted by: Vic1 | March 31, 2010 8:28 AM


I WANT WINNERS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB5-yJM3vJc

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Eschew the quarterback in the first round, I say! Eschew it! Sam Bradford has injury issues. Jimmy Clausen is recommended by Vinny Cerrato. Tim Tebow is not a first-round pick. And this team has more needs than a kid at Christmas. Go on, tell me I'm wrong.

By David Larimer | March 30, 2010; 10:30 PM ET


Who is David Larimer and how do we get more of him and his little man’s angst to contribute more on the blog.

Cindy- make it so..

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 31, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Well played, Diesel.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

LMAO @ posters ripping Reid... Dude had it coming for a minute now.

I want to believe in Snyder but the thing is that he's had WAY too many transgressions as an owner to just overlook what's went down the last 10 years.

My view on Snyder is the same as it is with Shanahan, Allen, and the Redskins as a whole: The jury is still out.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 31, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

I WANT WINNERS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB5-yJM3vJc

Posted by: brownwood26


I can't view it at work, but I KNOW that's Singletary's rant!

One of my favorite one liners from a coach going off.

"I WANT WINNERS!"

Posted by: RedDMV | March 31, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins want a Pro Bowl player with a top ten pick? Why does the Post insist on revealing in house secrets? Jeeze, now EVERYONE will want a Pro Bowl player with a top ten pick. Shame!!

Posted by: themantoyou | March 31, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

the post cant find a better host than this guy...he is talking about crack heads and is an idiot. Give me a break he is annoying can you find a host that knows how to interview people. no one cares what that dude thinks.

Posted by: unknownsouljah | March 31, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

red, how was the day? Surprised you're up at this hour....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Haha, Red. You got me, dude. LOVE that rant. Before the Zorn debacle, you have no idea how bad I wanted the Skins to make a run at Singletary for HC...that dude is so intense and is a great interview.

And I'm with you on Snyder...he's done the "look at me...I've changed!" stunt before and I don't buy it until he proves it for real. And you can't do that in one offseason. I give him credit for finally making a credible FO hire, but I have to see his change over time to really believe it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

When I'm at a social gathering and someone asks me if they can get me anything, I always ask for a bundt cake.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 31, 2010 8:34 AM

Good call on the bundt cake Deisel. Orange is really good. mmmmmmmmmm....

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Don't they have sports editors here that can tell them to come up with something better? Sigh. I guess this is news when compared to the liberal drivel the rest of the Post prints...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 8:08 AM

Wow...you're an ambitious one... quickly taking over the top spot from jcnjcn and madered as the blog's biggest crybaby.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 31, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Jeeze, now EVERYONE will want a Pro Bowl player with a top ten pick. Shame!!

Posted by: themantoyou | March 31, 2010 8:49 AM

This is why it's so refreshing to have guys like Allen and Shanahan who won't spill their guts out to the loudmouth WaPo beat reporters. I'm thinking that Snyder hired them because they have higher standards -- they want a future HOFer with a top-10 pick. That's just my guess, and if it's true I hope that they won't confirm it because, well, our secrets would be out there for all the opposition to reid.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

So you would rather see Josh Hull or Joe Pawelek or maybe Micah Johnson if he's still around?

Toss up. We need both - and a FS.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

U-m-m, yes?

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 31, 2010 8:25 AM |

I meant that in a good way.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

When I'm at a social gathering and someone asks me if they can get me anything, I always ask for a bundt cake.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 31, 2010 8:34 AM

This gal's a real life-of-the-party type, isn't she? Probably shows up wearing her bra outside her shirt and does the lampshade on the head routine after she's had a few cold ones. I'm guessing that the last time she was actually invited to a social gathering was her own Sweet 16 party in 1960.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Please stop quoting Vinny. No one cares what that resigned/fired doosh thinks. And I still dont care what Snyder wants. Lock him in a room and make him sign checks.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | March 31, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

One day I was in a bakery and I had a Freudian slip when trying to order "bundt cake".

Needless to say, I have been told I am no longer welcome at that establishment.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 31, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

If you need any more suggestions, come to the posters on RI and we'll tell you what we want to hear about. Beats the heck out of sucking eggs with what you just wrote.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

I would love to read all of these stories. How about a fan contest too of some kind, just to keep the off season fun.

Like instead of a bracket challenge-a mock draft challenge.
How about a few articles by fans since this is a quite off season?

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Profound words from the owner. Maybe he should write a book on the philosophy of the draft, titled: "Pro Bowl or Bust"...

Posted by: randysbailin | March 31, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Stupid post since Snyder has no say in who the team drafts, I'm sure he would be happy with an O-Line guy who's a perennial Pro bowler as well. Plus the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest not a true measure of the best players in the league.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 7:30 AM
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Flound..
I wouldnt agree with your assessment of Snyder not having anything to do with the draft. Or, were you being facetious?
Snyder has everything to do with the past Drafts. Recall last year when it was Snyder calling other GMs to trade JC...not Vinny. I am sure Snyder wanted to hide that fact but, the other GMs were leaking to the media that it was Snyder calling them for a 2nd round pick that he could package for moving up to Sanchez. So, I would surmise that Snyder was just as deeply involved in the Draft room.

This year may be totally different, however given Snyder's respect for Shanahan.. I would guess Shanny is going to be the decision maker on the Draft and Allen, not so..
Remember Bruce Allen was unemployed when Snyder hired him.. He was not pulled away from another team.. In that scenario, Snyder dictates his function more than BA. And Allen has already said he is more of a "Cap" manager / deal maker. Not so, a Draft Scout.. which I would guess is Shanny.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

How about a few articles by fans since this is a quite off season?

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2010 9:11 AM

NOOOOO! Pure torture reading those guest blogs and the comments they inspired. Sole exception was Megskins' guest blog explaining what Redskins Insider was about (available on the Wiki).

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I don't usually join the Bash Jason party but this was about as dumb and irrelevant as a 'story' can be.

Posted by: thedude1974 | March 31, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

L-S
at least with guest blogs we get a interesting discourse with the author in the thread... it was just an idea, and there are no bad ideas. The only problem I had with guest blogs was that few seemed to be proofed.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

It's kinda stating the obvious... I wouldn't expect him to say "oh, I'd like an average to mediocre player with the 4th pick in the draft".

Of course you want a pro bowler with that pick.

Posted by: dfbovey | March 31, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Mike Florio
March 31, 2010, 9:23
Could the Raiders and Redskins be swapping QB's?
Rumors are starting to circulate that Mike Shanahan believes he can't win with Jason Campbell as his qb, the same however holds true for Raiders Coach Tom Cable in regard to Jamarcus Russell. In an attempt to rid themselves of these QB's, we're hearing that the Raiders, and Redskins could be swapping them in an exchange of former first round picks. Stay tuned...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Duuuuh!!! What a dumb post, Mr. Master of the Obvious.

Posted by: shanks1 | March 31, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

You guys are just rude and nasty with your remarks about Tracee.

There was a great article about her in the Post on Sunday. She has actually been at the Post a really LONG time (is NOT new) she has been an editor and writer. She is an excellent columnist and brings far more to table than that idiot Wilbon.

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 31, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Mike Florio
March 31, 2010, 9:23
Could the Raiders and Redskins be swapping QB's?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 9:25 AM

This is a smokescreen. It is meant to panic Donovan McNabb so he will agree to be traded to the Raiders. The rumor started in Philadelphia.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Alex35332, "there are no bad ideas"?

What kind of corporate "feel good" group dynamic brain-storming steaming-BS is that? I have burned too many good hours of my life sitting in idiot-speak sessions like that.

There are definitely bad ideas, and they get exponentially worse when they get put into action by morons who can't tell the difference.

Anybody here ever have a boss (or bosses) like that?

I suspect you were kidding...

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Snyder wants a perennial Pro Bowler?

No sh$t!?!? Who doesn't?
This is ground breaking news. Sit back and shut up Danny. You have proven that you are inept at this. Let the grown ups handle it.

Posted by: westjr88 | March 31, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Bean - you are an evil man.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

She is an excellent columnist and brings far more to table than that idiot Wilbon.

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 31, 2010 9:29 AM


It's nice of you to rush to her aid and all, but that's no reason to make sh*t up. I've read no less than 3 of her columns and if I could sue the Post for the time I spent reading it, I would.

And before you go sprinting across the keyboard with the gender card, I'm every bit as critical and unimpressed with Mike Wise. Some people have the ability to hold readers, some don't. Tracee don't.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

There have been more busts in the top 10 than pro bowlers. The talent level from the 1st-4th round is not seperated by much. If we can scout the talent better than previous years (still bitter about not grabbing DeSean Jackson)we could come away with a few pro bowl caliber picks. Personally I think finding a "fit" with the systems in place weighs heavier than just grabing the best available. I say no to Suh and McCoy.. If not Bradford I'd be happy with Okung or Berry.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 31, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Question: does Donovan McNabb have a "no trade" clause or not? If he does, he could veto a move to Oakland, right?

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 31, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

I wonder what Tracey Hamilton uses.


Posted by: Diesel44 | March 31, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

I wonder what the ole "bag of hot nickels" uses.

Posted by: RomoShortball | March 31, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

as critical and unimpressed with Mike Wise. Some people have the ability to hold readers, some don't. Tracee don't.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Agreed about Wise

Posted by: westjr88 | March 31, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Question: does Donovan McNabb have a "no trade" clause or not? If he does, he could veto a move to Oakland, right?

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 31, 2010 9:38 AM |

He doesn't read earlier post from PFT.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Mike Florio
March 31, 2010, 9:23
Could the Raiders and Redskins be swapping QB's?
Rumors are starting to circulate that Mike Shanahan believes he can't win with Jason Campbell as his qb, the same however holds true for Raiders Coach Tom Cable in regard to Jamarcus Russell. In an attempt to rid themselves of these QB's, we're hearing that the Raiders, and Redskins could be swapping them in an exchange of former first round picks. Stay tuned...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 9:25 AM
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There are only a handful of players I wouldn't take in trade for Campbell, and, unfortunately, Russell is one of them. Now, if the Redskins could work a Campbell trade with KC for Brodie Croyle and a draft pick, count me in.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

This just in... I want a Girl Friend with long legs, big boobs, and taste like ice cream.

If J. Reid isn't coping and pasting his post, he points out the obvious. Really, Snyder wants a player who goes to the pro bowl year after year? Really? Really?

What's is the latest "Insider" info to come out today. "Players want to play on soft green grass" "Team hopes to score more points" if J. Reid digs really deep, "Players wear helmets for safety reasons"

I know it's a slow off season, but come on man.

Posted by: ChrisWoody | March 31, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

beaner, how does this keep working? time after time? hell, I'm suspicious of the real Florio cut and pastes up here. damn.

Posted by: RomoShortball | March 31, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Snyder wants a perennial Pro Bowler?

No sh$t!?!? Who doesn't?
This is ground breaking news. Sit back and shut up Danny. You have proven that you are inept at this. Let the grown ups handle it.

Posted by: westjr88 | March 31, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

People like you need to relax and re-read the blog entry. The comment that this is based on came from Ceratto when Ceratto was still a Redskin employee. It's not like this is a comment made this year.

Even if it was... RELAX. It's a friggin harmless comment regardless.

Posted by: dfbovey | March 31, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

beans, I usually relax a little when the b-day falls during the week, but believe, if this were about 5 years ago I'd have a major hangover right now.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 31, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

romo, no idea what you're talking about dude....I'm not a fan of trading for JRussell, if thats what you mean?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if this is in the video clip above (have not watched it) but yesterday on WaPo Live, JReid declared that Shanahan can do whatever he wants this season, draft whoever he wants, AND go 0-16 and it will be ok! I find it extremely hard to believe Snyder would be ok with this - although he probably will keep his mouth shut - but I can't believe the fans would be ok with it - I certainly would not.

BMitch on the other hand added great logic - saying that Bradford may have looked impressive at his pro day but that he was not in pads, not being rushed, had no DBs in the backfield, etc. BMitch also said Jamarcus Russell looked great at his pro day.

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 31, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Jeez, a lot of vitriol for Reid regarding this post.

Am I the only one who read this as a good thing? As in Snyder understands he's not making the pick, so he doesn't care to speculate on who he wants.

Posted by: psps23 | March 31, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

More of the bleeding obvious from the Post. I wouldn't have expected Snyder to say that he hopes they pick another Chad Rheihart (ie not pro bowler). Of course, it would be great if the GENIUS could find another way to give DC a new Redskins owner....

Posted by: atidwell | March 31, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I liked the Larimer post. It was short, informative, and entertaining.

Give Larimer a few more shots up here.

I like Teh Mayonnaise for interviews, but otherwise he's pretty bland.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 31, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

BMitch on the other hand added great logic - saying that Bradford may have looked impressive at his pro day but that he was not in pads, not being rushed, had no DBs in the backfield, etc. BMitch also said Jamarcus Russell looked great at his pro day.

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 31, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

All the pro day did was solidify a pre-existing opinion of Bradford for whoever's interested in him. If you thought he was worth the #1 pick prior to the pro day, the pro day was just one more egg in the basket.

Posted by: dfbovey | March 31, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Two questions:

-Who the f*ck is Tracee Hamilton?

-Why the f*ck should I care?

If it ain't Boswell or Wilbon, don't peddle that here.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 5:21 AM

She is the newest Sports Columnist to join the WaPo....

...You don't know her because she has painted herself as a JAson Whitlock and Michael Wilbon. She capitalizes on negativity.

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who read this as a good thing? As in Snyder understands he's not making the pick, so he doesn't care to speculate on who he wants.

Posted by: psps23 | March 31, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

How are people reading "Vinny once told me" and then running with it as if Snyder just made the comment about this coming draft?

Posted by: dfbovey | March 31, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

They said Ryan Leaf had a great pro day too.....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 31, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Jeez, a lot of vitriol for Reid regarding this post.

Am I the only one who read this as a good thing? As in Snyder understands he's not making the pick, so he doesn't care to speculate on who he wants.

Posted by: psps23 | March 31, 2010 9:52 AM

I skimmed through.....and I partially understand....

This is basically a No NEws post....And I think most of us are aware of what Snyder's thinking is when drafting top 10.

No News Posts = Unhappy RIers who are spoiled

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Update ... "Redskins fans want the team to win more games" J. Reid reporting

Posted by: ChrisWoody | March 31, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

...You don't know her because she has painted herself as a JAson Whitlock and Michael Wilbon. She capitalizes on negativity.

Posted by: 4thFloor


So...

Wilbon = Whitlock = Hamilton = Jenkins


I'm not familiar with Hamilton like the other three, but man I can't stand Sally Jenkins.

If someone slipped, fell, and broke their pinky finger at Johnny Rockets, she'd go on this long rant about the Redskins coaching staff and how they don't measure up to all the other 31 NFL teams, or how bad of a guy Dan Snyder is.

If the alligator desk story had any validity to it, I'm betting she'd write about that too.

She'd even have something negative to say about the smiley faces they put in your condiment cup at Johnny Rockets.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 31, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

If it ain't Boswell or Wilbon, don't peddle that here.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 5:21 AM

She is the newest Sports Columnist to join the WaPo....

...You don't know her because she has painted herself as a JAson Whitlock and Michael Wilbon. She capitalizes on negativity.

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2010 9:56 AM
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she has the best humor of those guys.. Sorta a Red Jenkins edge.
Funnier than Kornheiser in his prime.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

"How are people reading "Vinny once told me" and then running with it as if Snyder just made the comment about this coming draft?

Posted by: dfbovey | March 31, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse"

Hah, looks like I misread the post too.

Alright, now it really looks like a complete no news post.

Posted by: psps23 | March 31, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

They said Ryan Leaf had a great pro day too.....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 31, 2010 10:01 AM
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best effin post of the day, so far.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

From Hamilton's q & a session, tell me who you think this is, cuz its funny:

"Noticed on Redskins Insider today a brief overview of the Skins picks when in the top 10 of the draft.

Why is the Wash Post and most of the DC sports media sidestepping the greatest irony and bust of past Redskins first round picks -- the fiasco of Gibbs and Snyder giving up 3 picks in 2005 for Jason Campbell (2 of 3 eventually in the probowl, Cutler and Brandon Marshall).

And the irony? The downside of course is that Campbell hasn't come close to the Pro Bowl game unless he bought tickets. And these valuable picks were dealt to the same person that is selecting for the Skins this year"

vic, seriously dude, get some professional help....take a break from RI for a while, cuz you're starting to lose however perilous your grip on reality is...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

eople like you need to relax and re-read the blog entry. The comment that this is based on came from Ceratto when Ceratto was still a Redskin employee. It's not like this is a comment made this year.

Even if it was... RELAX. It's a friggin harmless comment regardless.

Posted by: dfbovey | March 31, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Well good then...If its harmless then YOU RELAX and don't worry about it.

Posted by: westjr88 | March 31, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

She'd even have something negative to say about the smiley faces they put in your condiment cup at Johnny Rockets.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 31, 2010 10:05 AM |

Call me a sucker, but I like Johnny Rockets, and I love the smiley ketchup (or catsup, depending on who you are) faces. Brightens up my day.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 31, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

News Bulletin ... "Skins say new Jumbotron is new" Reporting live I'm J. Reid

Posted by: ChrisWoody | March 31, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I hope we find the next Stephone Heyer with the 4th pick.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 31, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Call me a sucker, but I like Johnny Rockets, and I love the smiley ketchup (or catsup, depending on who you are) faces. Brightens up my day.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 31, 2010 10:17 AM
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sounds like a field trip on a short bus from a nursing home.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

For the past few seasons, I've always kind of defended Cerrato to my peers as being nothing more than a guy with no backbone, who did know football-- who was brought here to make Snyder's meddling, wasteful, completely uncalculated personnel decisions... make sense in "football terms."

But with a line like this: "Vinny Cerrato, Washington's former executive vice president of football operations, once told me that if the Redskins have a top-10 draft pick, owner Daniel Snyder wants "a perennial Pro Bowl guy.""
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I may finally have to admit, that he too is an idiot. What is he an 8yo operating the draft on a Madden game? Gee, if I had a top 10 pick, I think I'd want a character guy who was nothing more than a gunner on special teams. What the hell? How's this for just another in a long list of pieces of proof, that the Skins shortcomings over the past decade, are due to the complete FAILURE of the front office. "He wants a perennial pro bowler, really?"

Unbelievable

Posted by: LIKWID | March 31, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

theres no e in Stephon... my bad.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 31, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

theres no e in Stephon... my bad.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 31, 2010 10:21 AM
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He plays like Stephonie.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

The downside of course is that Campbell hasn't come close to the Pro Bowl game unless he bought tickets.

vic, seriously dude, get some professional help....take a break from RI for a while, cuz you're starting to lose however perilous your grip on reality is...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 10:10 AM
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"The downside of course is that Campbell hasn't come close to the Pro Bowl game unless he bought tickets. "

funny, Vic or Hamilton??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

"You think Snyder's bad...move to Oakland."

I think it's pretty tough to argue that Snyder's much worse than Al Davis -- and Al Davis is suffering from some severe kind of dementia. What's Danny's excuse?

Al's teams have been competitive at some point in the last 10 years -- they've even been to a Superbowl. Danny's teams have been a punchline.

But NFL is all about results, so let's go to the scoreboard:

In the last decade, Al's teams have gone 62-98, with 4 victories in 7 playoff games including a Superbowl appearance.

Danny's teams have gone 70-90 with 1 victory in 3 playoff games.

Now, the Raiders have been dismal for the last seven years while the Redskins have stumbled between dismal and mediocre. Point to Danny?


Posted by: diesel_skins_ | March 31, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

sounds like a field trip on a short bus from a nursing home.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 10:20 AM

It was a bit sarcastic. But I do like Johnny Rockets.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 31, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

You guys are really bashing about this article. Basically all it is saying is Snyder is staying out of the pick, but would like a very high quality player for the team. Isn't that really what we all want. And the verdict is still out on Landry and Rogers. Landry if he gets to move to SS may show his true value, and Rogers may yet reach elite status. Yes, they both make some bonehead moves once in a while, but not alone in that department when a team is 4-12.

Posted by: skins50 | March 31, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Well good then...If its harmless then YOU RELAX and don't worry about it.

Posted by: westjr88 | March 31, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse


Sorry if I impeded your addiction to Snyder b!+ching dude. At least make it justified or pay more attention to what you're responding to. Mindless drone like Snyder bashing gets old after a while.

Posted by: dfbovey | March 31, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Breaking News ... "Vinny once told me, that someone once told him, you have to get 10 yards for a first down." I'm just saying, reporting live somewhere miles away from Redskin Park, I'm J. Reid

Posted by: ChrisWoody | March 31, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato, Washington's former executive vice president of football operations, once told me that if the Redskins have a top-10 draft pick, owner Daniel Snyder wants "a perennial Pro Bowl guy."

By Jason Reid | March 31, 2010; 6:52 AM ET


This is the wrong blog for this post. It should be under voices.washingtonpost.com/captainobvious

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 31, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

We interrupt this blog for an important announcement.

"Redskins are evaluating players for the upcoming draft" "I wish someone would talk to me at Redskin Park, No news is bad news." I am J. Reid.

Posted by: ChrisWoody | March 31, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

We interrupt this blog for an important announcement.

"Redskins are evaluating players for the upcoming draft" "I wish someone would talk to me at Redskin Park, No news is bad news." I am J. Reid.

Posted by: ChrisWoody | March 31, 2010 10:50 AM
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Journalism 101

when your access and sources start dry up.. Its time to Dumpster Dive.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of declaring the obvious...from PFT:

Caldwell on Tebow: "I don't think he's going to be an elite passer"
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 31, 2010 10:51 AM ET
Florida coach Urban Meyer blew a gasket recently when a reporter accurately quoted Gators receiver Deonte Thompson as suggesting that when he played with Tim Tebow, he wasn't playing with a "real quarterback"

Next maybe Meyer will blow a gasket at Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com.

Hobson quoted Bengals wide receiver Andre Caldwell, who played with Tebow at Florida, as saying that he doesn't think Tebow will be an elite passer in the NFL. There's nothing too controversial about that -- it's an opinion held by many people -- and Caldwell also had plenty of positive things to say about Tebow. But Meyer seems to think any writer who dares to quote any receiver as saying anything other than "Urban Meyer did a wonderful job of preparing Tim Tebow to be the best passer in the NFL" has committed a mortal sin.

Here's what Hobson quoted Caldwell as saying about Tebow: "He needs time. He needs to sit behind one of those good quarterbacks for about three years because I know he's going to put in the work and the effort to be a great quarterback. He's going to learn. I don't think he's going to be an elite passer ever. But he's a playmaker. He'll get the ball there. He probably can't make the prettiest looking passes. But he's going to use what he has to his advantage. Running. Scrambling. Making passes. He's got a strong arm and I think he can make the throws, but they may not be the prettiest."

In Caldwell's opinion, Tebow should be drafted late in the second round.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

It was about five years ago when I was sitting in the box with Vinny and he leaned over and said, "Man, the stadium is full today". You have to hand it to Vinny, he knows a full stadium when he sees one.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

can't we get some quotes from Rock Cartwright on how the rest of his life outside of football is going?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Simply put;
Round one: Left Tackle
Round two: Right Tackle
Round four: Running Back
Round five: Defense
Round seven: Special team

Best available player on each position.
Since Shanahan likes to raise QB, raise JC and Colt!

Posted by: abxinc | March 31, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Here's some stuff from Peter King:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/03/30/mailbag/index.html?eref=si_writers

When rumors get thrown out at this time of the draft year, you have to take them with not a grain of salt, but with a salt-shaker. I usually do. But not when Gil Brandt speaks. He is money on the draft, and he knows things the rest of us don't. And he said something today on our Sirius NFL Radio show that made my eyelids hit the ceiling regarding Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford, who most of the western world has already assigned to St. Louis with the first pick in the April 22 first round.

"I think there's a 49-percent chance he ends up in Washington,'' Brandt told me and Randy Cross.

Hmmmm. The Rams, desperate for a quarterback, pick first. The Redskins, desperate for a quarterback, pick fourth. Sound familiar? 2004 draft, Chargers picking first, Giants fourth, and they both need quarterbacks of the future (though, in retrospect, that might have been an invented need for the Chargers, with Drew Brees on the roster). San Diego picked Eli Manning number one, and the Giants chose Philip Rivers number four, and while the Rivers pick was being walked up to the commissioner in New York, the two teams were finishing work on a trade. They swapped quarterbacks, and the Giants sent a third-round pick in 2004, and first- and fifth-round picks in 2005, to San Diego as part of the trade.

The Redskins have an owner willing to do anything to help his team, so he's not going to stand in the way of dealing a ton to St. Louis for the pick -- if football braintrust Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen think it's a smart idea. But if the Rams were to do this, they'd have to be sure Jimmy Clausen (or Tim Tebow or Colt McCoy) would be an adequate replacement for Marc Bulger.

For the record, the Redskins don't have a third- or sixth-round pick this year, and they have no compensatory choices. They have their first-round pick (fourth overall), second (37th), fourth (103rd), fifth (135th) and seventh (211th) in house.

My money's on the 51 percent of Brandt's prediction here. I can't see the Rams passing on a player I hear they absolutely love -- unless the treasure trove they get in return could set them up with the first- and second-rounders here, plus a one next year, and they'd also have to love Clausen. Those are some very big ifs.

But I'll also have my antennae up in the coming weeks, because Brandt is Brandt, the godfather of the draft.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

can't we get some quotes from Rock Cartwright on how the rest of his life outside of football is going?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 11:04 AM


Good idea. Then we can get opinion and analysis on Rock's life from London Fletcher and DHall. Geez, Reid could get at least 10-15 threads out of that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

can't we get some quotes from Rock Cartwright on how the rest of his life outside of football is going?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 11:04 AM


Speaking of Cartwright....

...Phil Bucchannon was on the junkies this morning....

Amongst many things he said....they asked him what his number is going to be...he said he doesn't know yet....They asked what # has he been.....and he said he has been #31 since UM....And they (and me) were trying to figure out 'Who is #31 on the Redskins'....Then Phil B said it was Cartwright....then all the junkies started laughing hard as sh!t....including me.....And they was like, 'Oh yeah, you don't have to worry about nothing!'

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Here's some stuff from ESPN.com:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/tag/_/name/draft-watch-32410-nfc

We know where Washington stands at quarterback and left tackle. I think Jason Campbell could do a nice job for Mike Shanahan, but so far, the coach isn't really embracing the incumbent starter. But those are the obvious needs. Honestly, there are no under-the-radar needs because the Redskins need help at pretty much every position. Maybe with the presence of Albert Haynesworth and Maake Kemoeatu, folks have been lulled into thinking the Redskins are OK at defensive tackle. But I don't think that's the case. If you can find a nose tackle early in the draft, you have to think about selecting him. Haynesworth's going to line up at defensive end the majority of the time. He wants no part of playing nose tackle, although he'll be there some of the time.

The Redskins would also be wise to look for inside linebackers for their new 3-4 scheme. If you think London Fletcher's going to succeed in a 3-4, you haven't studied the league. Little guys like Fletcher simply don't function well in this type of defense. Ask the Cowboys' former mighty mites Dat Nguyen and Dexter Coakley. It just doesn't work for 5-10 guys to be taking on 340-pound guards who are light on their feet. So yes, inside linebacker might qualify as an under-the-radar need.

The Redskins still have questions at punter and placekicker as well. They have needs all over the roster, so this could rank as the most important draft in the last 20 years. Nothing's really under-the-radar when it comes to this team's draft needs.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

brown, I'm going on record as saying that I firmly and wholeheartedly believe that if the Redskins trade up for Bradford, it will be a HUGE, GALACTIC, COLOSSAL mistake that they will regret for YEARS. Not only in the player they get, but in the picks they give up.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Snyder sets his goals too low: I want perennial pro-bowlers with EVERY pick!

Actually, I just want a Super Bowl every year. Usually, that means at least a few of your guys are getting to the pro-bowl.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 31, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

But I'll also have my antennae up in the coming weeks, because Brandt is Brandt, the godfather of the draft.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 11:08 AM

I don't like this rumor. The rumor I like better is the Raiders shopping the #8 pick for a second rounder this year and a first rounder next year.

Posted by: TWISI | March 31, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Little guys like Fletcher simply don't function well in this type of defense. Ask the Cowboys' former mighty mites Dat Nguyen and Dexter Coakley

Didn't both these guys have like 8-10 year careers??

Oh and Zach Thomas say's hello.

ESPN sucks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I'm with you 100% Greg...we traded up to get JC and you see the venom spewed in his direction. If Bradford isn't the 2nd coming of Sammy Baugh, clowns like Vic1 will come up here having a coronary over why Bradford is the slowest, stupidest QB to ever live.

Plus we can't afford to trade any more picks. Take whomever is the best available guy at #4 or trade down. Anything else is uncivilized.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

brown, I'm going on record as saying that I firmly and wholeheartedly believe that if the Redskins trade up for Bradford, it will be a HUGE, GALACTIC, COLOSSAL mistake that they will regret for YEARS. Not only in the player they get, but in the picks they give up.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 11:19 AM |

Amen.

Would it really be so bad if we laid the foundation for a dominant O line for the next ten years with this draft?

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Haha, good call Greg.

But I think Coakley's best years were in the 4-3...I could be wrong on that though.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who says that Comrade Danny has NO say in the draft is smoking crack.

Also, can someone please check the IP addresses of League Source and Flounder21? I bet they would be traced back to one Vincent Cerrato and David Donovan.

Posted by: playahatah | March 31, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I'm with you 100% Greg...we traded up to get JC and you see the venom spewed in his direction. If Bradford isn't the 2nd coming of Sammy Baugh, clowns like Vic1 will come up here having a coronary over why Bradford is the slowest, stupidest QB to ever live.

Plus we can't afford to trade any more picks. Take whomever is the best available guy at #4 or trade down. Anything else is uncivilized.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 11:23 AM
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I like the bethard approach... Trade all the friggn picks for established NFL players that you know will not be a bust at true NFL speed (ie. JC?)..Not bashing just saying.
If the Draft is less than 50/50 success, why do it?...trade for known quantities.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who says that Comrade Danny has NO say in the draft is smoking crack.

Also, can someone please check the IP addresses of League Source and Flounder21? I bet they would be traced back to one Vincent Cerrato and David Donovan.

Posted by: playahatah | March 31, 2010 11:29 AM |

Danny has no say in this years draft, and if you believe different you are smoking pole.

Someone trace palyahata's IP and when you find it I'll bet it traces back to JLC.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Always felt Bradford was the key to the Redskins draft this year. So, lets' assume now he's gone before #4 and Redskins then take Okung. Pretty simple so far.

But here's the question of the day -- what if both Bradford and Okung are not there at the 4 spot? Which way to go?

I see three choices: 1. Best athlete available, more than likely a defensive guy, Suh/McCoy/Berry?
2. Next best QB. Clausen? or
3. Next best offensive lineman?

Honestly can't tell right now which direction the team would go in this scenario.

Posted by: bones21 | March 31, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I like the bethard approach... Trade all the friggn picks for established NFL players that you know will not be a bust

The salary cap say's hello....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I like the bethard approach... Trade all the friggn picks for established NFL players that you know will not be a bust at true NFL speed (ie. JC?)..Not bashing just saying.
If the Draft is less than 50/50 success, why do it?...trade for known quantities.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Thats the vinny approach too.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

But here's the question of the day -- what if both Bradford and Okung are not there at the 4 spot? Which way to go?

I see three choices: 1. Best athlete available, more than likely a defensive guy, Suh/McCoy/Berry?
2. Next best QB. Clausen? or
3. Next best offensive lineman?

Honestly can't tell right now which direction the team would go in this scenario.


Posted by: bones21 | March 31, 2010 11:35 AM |

That scenario is about 95% sure of happening, Okung is not going to be there at 4 so what do they do.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Strange world we live in.

Donavon McNabb--a guy who's gotten his team to the Super Bowl and various playoff games--can wake up to see his name tossed about in trade rumors.

Jason Campbell--a guy who's lead his team to back to back last place finishes in the NFC East--is consider 'must have'.

The wrong NFC East's quarterback name is in the pre-draft trade chatter.

Move Campbell.

Get a pick(s).

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Vinny also stated that Dan Snyder's preference in panties is for thongs. Although he personally agreed with this preference and certainly wishes he could have maintained his position within the Redskins organization, Vinny admitted that part of him was happy to now be free to switch back to wearing boxers.

Posted by: SnyderisaBornLoser | March 31, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I see three choices: 1. Best athlete available, more than likely a defensive guy, Suh/McCoy/Berry?
2. Next best QB. Clausen? or
3. Next best offensive lineman?

Honestly can't tell right now which direction the team would go in this scenario.


Posted by: bones21 | March 31, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse


Hopefully someone will get a boner for Suh or McCoy and be willing to trade up to #4. That, to me, would be the best case scenario.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 31, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Someone trace palyahata's IP and when you find it I'll bet it traces back to JLC.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Naw I bet that Playahata's IP traces back to.... Gregg Blanch. What the?

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

moe, and trade campbell, and 4th and draft spiller are slowly creeping into the arena of "why did we let pierce go".....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Been a while since I posted over here. Now I know why. This is what passes for news on this blog now?

Posted by: Barno1 | March 31, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"Would it really be so bad if we laid the foundation for a dominant O line for the next ten years with this draft?"

This is another dream: NFL teams don't feature dominant o-lines for ten years any more, what with player movement and age.

Teams commit to drafting linemen every year, and don't see one single year--or player--as the end all in developing a strong offensive line.

The skins should hope to come out of this year's draft with two players capable of starting.

And if those guys are here in ten years, that'll be great.

But I somehow doubt that they will be.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I like the bethard approach... Trade all the friggn picks for established NFL players that you know will not be a bust at true NFL speed (ie. JC?)..Not bashing just saying.
If the Draft is less than 50/50 success, why do it?...trade for known quantities.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 11:33 AM


This ain't 1981, hoss. In 2010, you build thru the draft. There is no other way.

Aside from the salary cap greeting from Greg, how about a greeting from Pittsburgh and Indy? Teams that have a combined 3 Super Bowls in the last few years and build almost exclusively thru the draft?

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I like the bethard approach... Trade all the friggn picks for established NFL players that you know will not be a bust at true NFL speed (ie. JC?)..Not bashing just saying.
If the Draft is less than 50/50 success, why do it?...trade for known quantities.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Thats the vinny approach too.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2010 11:37 AM
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I dont recall Vinny trading Draft picks for established NFL players?
who did he get and when?

But, liking Moe's idea about Donovan.. cept he would probably nix the deal due to our matador Oline.. Olay to the QB.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"...and trade campbell, and 4th and draft spiller are slowly creeping into the arena of "why did we let pierce go"

I'm a fan of two teams.

The one that's collecting rings next month is pretty cut and dry when it comes to a guy not getting his job done.

They pay you good money to perform, and when you don't, they show you the door, and replace you with another guy.

Why do they do that?: 'cuz pro sports is a business, and when a guy is paid good money to lead and win and doesn't, he gets released, traded, or cut.

Unless, of course, if he's a redskin.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Moe,

Kevin Kolb >>>> Colt Brennan

If the Redskins thought they had their next starting QB on the team, they would be more active in shopping JC.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | March 31, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

she has the best humor of those guys.. Sorta a Red Jenkins edge.
Funnier than Kornheiser in his prime.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM
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Jeez! I hate her sense of humor. Her jokes fall very flat with me. Of course, I thought this was funny:

"I knew this story would reel in a few fish.

Posted by: Flounder21"

Posted by: closer44 | March 31, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

moe, spouting the yanks as a team that spends money then shows you the door when you don't perform is short sighted at best. Kevin Brown says hello...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

skinsneedagm

"...deal due to our matador Oline.. Olay to the QB."


There are two basic facts about modern NFL line/quarterback play that we have to acknowledge.

Quarterbacks today will get hit.

Even the best o-lines give up pressures and sacks.

There was a Sports Illustrated article last year where several top quarterbacks stated that they were coached to make plays depsite the beating they took.

Aaron Rodgers took a lot of hits, made a lot of plays.

And with that being said, no matter who is drafted next month, our offensive line will be much better next year.

Not great.

Just better.

Olay to the draft.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Aside from the salary cap greeting from Greg, how about a greeting from Pittsburgh and Indy? Teams that have a combined 3 Super Bowls in the last few years and build almost exclusively thru the draft?

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2010 11:47 AM
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Maybe if we had a GM like Polian on the staff. And New Orleans was built on acquiring established Free Agents.
Unfortunately, Shanny doesnt have a stellar record in the last two drafts he scouted for Denver which some say led to his departure..
The last good picks Shanny has done in the Draft, as vic posted this morning on the Tracee show, were with the 2006 Skin's picks in 06 (Cutler and B.Marshall).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

What are the positions that are not needs for us?

SS
DE
TE

Any other positions where you think we're set for awhile? Aside from Orakpo is there anyone other young player you think this team can build around?

Maybe Bradford has the talent to be an All Pro. But I doubt he makes it there with us if we use picks to trade up and he gets pounded because we have no running game, no pass protection, we don't address secondary problems and LB depth on defense (so we'll be playing from behind).

I'm not opposed to taking him at #4 if he's there and we think he's going to be elite. But trading up means you have to give something up in return and in our case it means we wouldn't realistically be able to address any other needs in this draft and we'd likely give up our top pick in the next draft.

Posted by: manifested | March 31, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Poopy McPoop in 3...2...1...

Posted by: RomoShortball | March 31, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

portispockets

"If the Redskins thought they had their next starting QB on the team, they would be more active in shopping JC."

Mr. Shanahan's remarks and actions about the team's quarterback play have been as cryptic as ever.

He tells Campbell he supports him, but signs Rex Grossman while explaining he wants an up and close look at the top kids in the draft who play the position.

Then he tells Campbell that "..he's in the mix.." to start.

I think all signs point to a quarterback being drafted.

Not that I endorse that idea.

I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I dont recall Vinny trading Draft picks for established NFL players?
who did he get and when?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 11:50 AM

Laverneus Coles, Chad Morton, Brandon Lloyd, Jason Taylor. TJ Duckett, Mark Brunell etc etc.

Are you kidding? You are Vinny.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | March 31, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

moe, he signed grossman, because they cut Collins, Colt B, is soon to be unemployed and Rex has familiarity with the offense...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

spouting the yanks as a team that spends money then shows you the door when you don't perform is short sighted at best. Kevin Brown says hello...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1


Also, Jason Giambi said hi, and Carl Pavano says what's good.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 31, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"...spouting the yanks as a team that spends money then shows you the door when you don't perform is short sighted at best. Kevin Brown says hello..."


Bro', the team released the World Series' MVP Hideki Matsui and player favorite Johnny Damon, what are you talking about?

One guy who can't run and another guy who can't throw.

Again: when you can't get it done, you get gone.

And that's the standard most pro sports teams follow.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 12:11 PM

If he only signed Rex because Collins gone, then why say it's an open competition for the position?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 31, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Then he tells Campbell that "..he's in the mix.." to start.

I think all signs point to a quarterback being drafted.

Not that I endorse that idea.

I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 12:08 PM
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JC will be part of a convoluted 3 way or 4 way Draft day deal that will bring Shanny's binky back to him. Jay Cutler.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I dont recall Vinny trading Draft picks for established NFL players?
who did he get and when?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 11:50 AM

Laverneus Coles, Chad Morton, Brandon Lloyd, Jason Taylor. TJ Duckett, Mark Brunell etc etc.

Are you kidding? You are Vinny.


Posted by: ToddStinkston


I know it's blasphemous to associate anything negative with Joe Gibbs, but he had a lot to do with some of those acquisitions.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 31, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

bean

"...he signed grossman, because they cut Collins, Colt B, is soon to be unemployed and Rex has familiarity with the offense..."


So it would follow that a rookie quarterback is going to sit behind Grossman, Campbell, or the both of them.

How am I wrong?

(And again: I don't endorse drafting a quarterback: it just looks like what's going to happen.)

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Johnny Rockets is some good stuff. Gotta have the chili cheese fries! headed over to Union Station as I type this. I like lunchtime. And I would like to draft a pro bowler too.

Umm.... and my dog pees a lot when he drinks beer... And ummm..... Reid pees while sitting and wipes himself afterwards... and Ummm!!

Posted by: digger76 | March 31, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I'd like a lifetime pass to the Playboy Mansion...

Posted by: kahlua87 | March 31, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SnyderisaBornLoser | March 31, 2010 11:39 AM

Worst screen name up here. Pitiful. Snyder turned a penny ante media operation into $2 billion and he's a "born loser"? He's following that up by doubling a $700 thousand investment in the Redskins and you see a "born loser"?

There's a lot you can complain about with Snyder, but you can't pin "Born Loser" on him. Your screen name is almost as out to lunch SkinsNeedaGM but that one was at least relevant once.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

red

"I know it's blasphemous to associate anything negative with Joe Gibbs, but he had a lot to do with some of those acquisitions."

Not for me.

I make a God of no man.

I loved Joe Torre, but was glad to see him go.

I think the one thing that really hurt the team during Gibbs 2.0 was the overdependence on older players along the offensive line and some FA moves that blew up in the FO's face.

The other issue being the team not changing with the league as the rules encouraged passing (there was an awareness of this signaled in the Al Saunders' hiring).

I think these two areas will be of primary concern for M Shanahan, and if things go right, we'll look like a junior version of the Houston Texans.

Without M Schaub and A Johnson, of course.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I dont recall Vinny trading Draft picks for established NFL players?
who did he get and when?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 11:50 AM

Laverneus Coles, Chad Morton, Brandon Lloyd, Jason Taylor. TJ Duckett, Mark Brunell etc etc.

Are you kidding? You are Vinny.


Posted by: ToddStinkston
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Of that list, Taylor was the only strong Vinny recommendation that was done in a mid-season panic due to injuries on the DLine....(and I think Taylor had a dam-n good year back w/the dolphins last year)
The rest were Gibbs / Snyder moves.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

lh, hasn't shanny gone on record that he wants competition at EVERY position?? Rex knows the offense, he was brought here to help get the QB's up to speed on it.

moe, what did Damon hit for the year? Sorry, but they should have moved him to rf, or DH, he can still rake.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Sunshine is beginning to occur in Hawaii.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 31, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

"Would it really be so bad if we laid the foundation for a dominant O line for the next ten years with this draft?"

This is another dream: NFL teams don't feature dominant o-lines for ten years any more, what with player movement and age.

Teams commit to drafting linemen every year, and don't see one single year--or player--as the end all in developing a strong offensive line.

The skins should hope to come out of this year's draft with two players capable of starting.

And if those guys are here in ten years, that'll be great.

But I somehow doubt that they will be.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 11:46 AM

Moe, agreed. That's why I called it laying the foundation. Didn't say anything about stopping there.

Besides, injuries can derail any career. Should have been allowing for Jansen's replacement after he went down on the field in Canton.

Never stop looking

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Of that list, Taylor was the only strong Vinny recommendation that was done in a mid-season panic due to injuries on the DLine....(and I think Taylor had a dam-n good year back w/the dolphins last year)
The rest were Gibbs / Snyder moves.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse
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The Vinster was heavily involved in the Archuletta and Lloyd disasters. There was on article on here around that time chronicling how Cerrato prepared a massive binder of scouting reports, etc, so that he could go into Danny and say, 'Here's who we can get'.

I'm too lazy to google-fu it right now.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 31, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I know it's old, but I still think about that T.J. Duckett trade.

Gibbs had ZERO confidence in Betts.

I don't think he knew who Rock Cartwright was due to his irrelevance.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 31, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I think these two areas will be of primary concern for M Shanahan, and if things go right, we'll look like a junior version of the Houston Texans.

Without M Schaub and A Johnson, of course.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I think the D has a chance to be much better than Houston's though.

But i get your point.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 31, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I HATE THIS STUPID SHOW!! WPL IS THE MOST CRITICAL SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN. IF WE GOT JOE MONTANA, JERRY RICE, LARRY FITZGERALD, THE HOGS AND THE '85 BEARS DEFENSE THEY WOULD STILL BE CRITICAL! I STOPPED WATCHING THIS SHOW A WHILE AGO AND I DONT PLAN ON WATCHING IT AGAIN. ITS SO STUPID!

Posted by: pdtodd12 | March 31, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Anybody who doesn't think that Katy Perry has the best sweater puppies out there needs to check out TMZ.

And if you still disagree, I will fight you.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 31, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I dont recall Vinny trading Draft picks for established NFL players?
who did he get and when?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 11:50 AM

Laverneus Coles, Chad Morton, Brandon Lloyd, Jason Taylor. TJ Duckett, Mark Brunell etc etc.

Are you kidding? You are Vinny.


Posted by: ToddStinkston
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didnt Gibbs 2.0 also give up some picks for JC?
Talk about a teflon Head Coach..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 31, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

That scenario is about 95% sure of happening, Okung is not going to be there at 4 so what do they do.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm still not sure that the Lions don't take Suh. If they do, Okung will definitely be there at #4.

But if Bradford and Okung are both gone, I'm definitely hoping someone wants to trade up for Suh or McCoy. Get some more picks in this deep draft.

Another interesting idea I heard was possibly swapping picks with Denver. They get the #4 pick, we'd get Brandon Marshall and their #11 pick.

At that point we take the best OT on the board.

Posted by: dfbovey | March 31, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

bean

"..what did Damon hit for the year? Sorry, but they should have moved him to rf, or DH, he can still rake..."


Nick Johnson is a better dh option, and is an excellent defensive back up to Tex.

I can't believe the Tigers gave C Granderson--an All Star and up grade over Damon--away so easily.

The Yanks have embraced the idea of upgrading the defense at all positions, and Damon's can't throw like Matsui can't run.

I'll end the baseball chatter by saying that I believe another round of the Yanks v. Sawks starts up next week.

We'll be waiting.

And our rings will be glistening.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I think perhaps you have unrealistic expectations from screen names, evinced by your inexplicable rage over... A WAPO SCREEN NAME. As for mine, I offer you this evidence:

*The utter failure of Six Flags
*The utter failure of the Redskins
*Tom Cruise

Since you do seem to hold the unbelievably silly belief that a screen name must be accurate, I look forward to evidence proving you are indeed a "league source." Offering HJs to naive and lonely rookies in the team parking lot during minicamp does not count.

Posted by: SnyderisaBornLoser | March 31, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

The Vinster was heavily involved in the Archuletta and Lloyd disasters. There was on article on here around that time chronicling how Cerrato prepared a massive binder of scouting reports, etc,...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 31, 2010 12:31 PM

Scouting reports was his job. Decision-making was not. The decision to hire Archuletta was attributed to Gregg Williams, Lloyd to Al Saunders.

Posted by: League-Source | March 31, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 31, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I will give Vinny somewhat of a pass on some of those moves. Gibbs was heavily invoved no question. But making that argument renders Vinny's position in the organization as worthless until 2008. That's when he hired Zoron, traded for Taylor (I don't care what he did in Miami, cost us a #2 for nothing) and did the WR-TE-WR bs. He sucked, no way around it.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | March 31, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

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"I HATE THIS STUPID SHOW!! WPL IS THE MOST CRITICAL SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN. IF WE GOT JOE MONTANA, JERRY RICE, LARRY FITZGERALD, THE HOGS AND THE '85 BEARS DEFENSE THEY WOULD STILL BE CRITICAL! I STOPPED WATCHING THIS SHOW A WHILE AGO AND I DONT PLAN ON WATCHING IT AGAIN. ITS SO STUPID!"

This is what happens when you forget your meds.

And the vodka you use to wash it all down.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I HATE THIS STUPID SHOW!! WPL IS THE MOST CRITICAL SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN. IF WE GOT JOE MONTANA, JERRY RICE, LARRY FITZGERALD, THE HOGS AND THE '85 BEARS DEFENSE THEY WOULD STILL BE CRITICAL! I STOPPED WATCHING THIS SHOW A WHILE AGO AND I DONT PLAN ON WATCHING IT AGAIN. ITS SO STUPID!

Posted by: pdtodd12

For your enthusiasm.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 31, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Little guys like Fletcher simply don't function well in this type of defense. Ask the Cowboys' former mighty mites Dat Nguyen and Dexter Coakley

Didn't both these guys have like 8-10 year careers??

Oh and Zach Thomas say's hello.

ESPN sucks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 31, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

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True, but those guys (Zack included) thrived in the 4-3. They all played in Dallas and they all got eaten alive in the 3-4...

Posted by: arizona4 | March 31, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | March 31, 2010 8:16
"Snyder hired a GM and credible head coach when noone thought he would...He's got a clean slate with me..."
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Then the past decade, you've had 6-7 clean slates, all that led to what? More average to losing seasons mixed with a playoff or two. A little known fact: The Redskins haven't been NFL relevant since 1992, which is 18 YEARS AGO. A typical 25 year old today only heard about the 1980's. All they know is the revolving door of coaches and players.

And didn't you also feel super when Gibbs came back, just be4 he lost more games than he won? Danny had a clean slate then too...

Posted by: kedavis | March 31, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | March 31, 2010 8:16
"Snyder hired a GM and credible head coach when noone thought he would...He's got a clean slate with me..."
*****************************************

Then the past decade, you've had 6-7 clean slates, all that led to what? More average to losing seasons mixed with a playoff or two. A little known fact: The Redskins haven't been NFL relevant since 1992, which is 18 YEARS AGO. A typical 25 year old today only heard about the 1980's. All they know is the revolving door of coaches and players.

And didn't you also feel super when Gibbs came back, just be4 he lost more games than he won? Danny had a clean slate then too...

Posted by: kedavis | March 31, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

So Danny hopes to draft a future pro-bowler. DUUHHH...!!!
Isn't everybody's plan to draft 7 pro-bowlers in every draft??
The man has not been very bright, is not now being bright, and will never ever be bright.
I just hope to he11 he will not be involved in the draft decision.

Posted by: scmonty1 | March 31, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Landry is playing out of position - trying to slot him as FS breaks all of his best instincts and, in that role, he can neither cover nor attack well - he's an eyes on the back field, go-find-someone-to-hit classic SS. Get a true FS, then we'll see.

Carlos - shrugs! Dress him and roast at 325 for T'day! ...but with FS support, he wouldn't be nearly as terrible.

Posted by: fr3dmars | March 31, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Just because Jason forgot to mention it:
2009 - Brian Orakpo - Pro Bowl in his rookie year!

Without him, last year would have been even more depressing. Where Danny and his chump stank was at any picks below the first round. In reality, that's where enduring teams are built.

Go for it Jason!

Posted by: fr3dmars | March 31, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Great - The preseason schedule is to be announced today. Could it be that we'll play someone else other than CAR, BAL, PIT, NYJ or CLV??

Can't wait til August.

Posted by: spambucket6 | March 31, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

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