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Tim Tebow and the Redskins: What's your take now?

When we first asked you back last month whether you'd want to see quarterback Tim Tebow in burgundy and gold, 68 percent of you said no. Let's see if that has changed with the news that the Redskins are one of five teams that have scheduled workouts with the former Gator and his "tweaked" delivery. At least one observer predicts success for Tebow ... with whichever NFL team happens to be the second one he plays for.


By Cindy Boren  |  March 18, 2010; 7:40 AM ET
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WOW

No Way

Posted by: WRBD | March 18, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

I love these polls.

1st question - NO!
2nd Question - Clausen

Posted by: RedDMV | March 18, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

I love these polls.

1st question - NO!
2nd Question - Clausen


Posted by: RedDMV | March 18, 2010 7:45 AM |

RED,

Agree on both accounts.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 18, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

It amazes me how many people dislike Tebow because of his religeous beliefs.

Posted by: grich13919 | March 18, 2010 6:59 AM


Grich, I don't think it's that people dislike him for his religious beliefs, I think people don't like him because he feels the need to say something about it ALL the time. I grew up around the Christian church and both of my grandfathers are ordained ministers, so I'm very familiar with the Tebow and Kurt Warner types.

In my experience, people who feel the need to beat people over the head with things of a religious nature tend to fall into one of two categories: either they're trying to project a certain image of themselves for marketing reasons (see Sanders, Deion) or they have a strong obsession over it. Neither seems to be very healthy.

So I don't think there are many folks that fault him for being a Christian and being proud of it...he's getting heat because he can't seem to figure out the appropriate time and place for conveying that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

God, I'm so pissed at the thought of TT as a Redskin, I don't even know where to start. Dan the excuse for a man Snyder already has done so much to ruin this team, and alienate fans, it's hard to imagine he could do more damage. But picking TT is exactly that.
I've been a Skins fan since '72, when I moved to DC when I was 7, and I've been a season ticket holder, and attended at least two games every year, and never missed a game on TV since then.
Pick TT, and I give away ALL my Skins stuff, and dedicate myself to golf on Sundays, when every other ahole is wasting their time watching that moralist *sshole.
Dan Snyder is the WORST thing that ever happened to this team.
Wow.


Posted by: jeffc6578 | March 18, 2010 3:13 AM |

People like this idiot need to get a grip. So let me get this straight, you don't want Tim Tebow because he has a set of morals and principles that he lives by? How absolutely phuking retarded are you? Not because he's one dimensional QB or because he has a screwed up throwing motion but because he's a "moralist a*hole." I tell you what, let's all just go smoke a bunch of crack, beat our wives and girlfriends and maybe then WE can get drafted because we aren't moralists. You are an absolute waste of a human and should shoot yourself in the face.

Look, I'm opposed to Tebow here in DC but because I don't think we need a person with his type of skill here not because he's a good person. It's okay to have a caffeine dosed wife beating freak running the ball for us but not okay to have someone that believes in God? That's just phuked up priorities and absolutely idiotic. Yes, there were a lot of people on here spouting off against LJ too so I'm not calling it hypocrisy but this is ridiculous. Tebow is a great leader and would probably wouldn't cause any off the field distractions but no thanks for football reasons.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 18, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Whoever put signing Grossman is to stupid to post on this blog.

He knows the offense this means you don't have to waste time teaching it to your backup QB.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 18, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

My top 5 RI handles.....(so far that i have noticed)
Pick for artistic appeal and entertainment value only...
These are just Listed and not Ranked...

1-peteywheatstraw
2-son-of-stan
3-iH8Dallas
4-PortisPocketsStr8
5-KingJoffeJoba

Posted by: jcnjcnj | March 18, 2010 7:56 AM | Report abuse

1st question - NO!
2nd Question - Clausen

Posted by: RedDMV | March 18, 2010 7:45 AM

Those should have been the only options.

I can't believe people are actually more concerned with signing a backup QB than wasting a franchise caliber left tackle pick on a crappy college QB.

Posted by: Section104 | March 18, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

"Tim Tebow and the Redskins: What's your take now?"


The story is that on his pro day at UF, he looked like a solid NFL quarterback prospect.

His mechanics were improved, his arm strength was good, and he made all the throws.

We know he can run, has size, and can take the blows.

People will have to admit that they knew this guy would do whatever it takes to be the best, and M Holmgren himself said Teow is a guy you have to give a shot simply because of who is and what he has done.

Of course, he is a high character guy, and no one can doubt his willingness to prove folks wrong.

If he is on the board in the 4th round, and the choice is between, say, B Tate, M Hardesty, and T Tebow, I'm taking Tebow.

I then release C Brennen, and then watch the third graders in the Colt 'O Cult cry themselves to sleep.

R Grossman's signing means Tebow gets a year to sit and watch and learn.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

he's getting heat because he can't seem to figure out the appropriate time and place for conveying that.


Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

In the locker-room especially. I can't see him on an NFL team other than as a disruptive influence there.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 18, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

In the locker-room especially. I can't see him on an NFL team other than as a disruptive influence there.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 18, 2010 8:04 AM

Wow, just wow!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 18, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

these posts are better than the pft posts I post, I mean, its high comedy, it really is. The redskins are among 5 teams that went to see his workout so OBVIOUSLY we're drafting him, I mean, there is no doubt. He's a very successful qb at a high level, why WOULDN'T they go to his workout. What I think is funny is that the Pats went to his workout, so OBVIOUSLY they're trading Brady, I mean right...

Tebow at #4....Championship...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

In the locker-room especially. I can't see him on an NFL team other than as a disruptive influence there.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 18, 2010 8:04 AM


I don't know if I'd go that far, but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened.

Guys like Joe Gibbs and Darrell Green are widely known as Christians. Not because they have to say "blessed" every 6th word or because they wear their religious beliefs on their sleeve. You show people you're a Christian by your actions. The way you live your life. If you carry yourself a certain way, you can have anyone you come in contact with KNOW you're a Christian without you saying a word on the subject.

And anyone who is as into the Bible and Christian teachings as Tebow supposedly is should know that.

THAT'S why his act raises red flags in my book.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

OBVIOUSLY they're trading Brady, I mean right...

Tebow at #4....Championship...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 8:09 AM |

Right, they're trading Brady and a 1st round pick to us for Cooley.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 18, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

And anyone who is as into the Bible and Christian teachings as Tebow supposedly is should know that.

THAT'S why his act raises red flags in my book.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 8:11 AM |

Brown,

Agreed it's those type of people that are normally hiding something.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 18, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

R Grossman's signing means Tebow gets a year to sit and watch and learn.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Grossman and Tebow as two of the three QBs?

I think I'll sit the 2010 season out.

Wow -- a guy with terrible mechanics and a guy who makes grotesque decisions. That's like choosing between cyanide and the .45.

If that happens, you all can just let me know how it plays out.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 18, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

yeah, can't see Tebow being disruptive either, sorry thats just foolish at best. How disruptive was he at Florida? Oh right, he wasn't, so suddenly he gets to the pro's, and thats gonna suddenly manifest itself? Sure...right after the pats draft tebow and trade brady...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

New England has 3 2nd round picks and a need for a pass catching tight end. I'm just saying.......imagine having a 1st and 3 2nds and a 4th! O-line done! QB of the future done

Posted by: boysheadcoach | March 18, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

New England has 3 2nd round picks and a need for a pass catching tight end. I'm just saying.......imagine having a 1st and 3 2nds and a 4th! O-line done! QB of the future done

Posted by: boysheadcoach | March 18, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

If Tebow were aggressively pro-choice or anti-war, the people who are criticizing him now would be saying "it's just his right to speak...he didn't cause problems in FL...he'll be fine in the locker room..." while pro-lifers would be saying that he shouldn't open his mouth, etc.

His beliefs, or his advocacy thereof, have zero bearing on his locker room presence or ability as a football player. People need to stop making up excuses simply because he doesn't agree with your views. Grow up.

Posted by: Section104 | March 18, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

bhc, why would they draft a college qb, and try and make him a te? that makes ZERO sense..why not spend a 2nd round pick on a TE, if they need a TE...I mean using logic and all...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, and uber-religious types typically don't date models:

http://nudecelebritiesblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/lucy_pinder_4.jpg

(NOT SAFE FOR WORK)

Just the fact that I'm posting a pic that needs the tag NSFW goes to show he's not all that he appears to be...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

He's a god fearing young man. And therefore a coward. No thanks.

Posted by: mack1 | March 18, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

One of the two biggest needs on our team is QB. We will probably workout all the top 5 QB prospects befor ethe draft. Reading anything into this guy or that guy coming in for a workout is ludicrous.

Many teams end up drafting guys they never worked out.

Posted by: PCinOz | March 18, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

brown, you're taking on the personna of pas, with his ben roth hatred, can't open that link, but sorry, that doesn't pass the sniff test...wouldn't we have seen more of them as a couple given all thats going on in his life? whateves, I guess...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Alright folks, final thoughts....

Kansas or Syracuse?

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 18, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

"Tebow at #4....Championship..."


Mock the idea all you want, but there's some truths we must visit:

a. Jason Campbell might not be any better than he is even with improved blocking and a running game.

If he and Tebow are both good, you have two trading chips on your roster.

b. A poor showing by Campbell means you're in the quarterback derby in '11, a year that might feature labor uncertainty.

c. Taking a 4th round chance on a kid like Tebow--with two vets on the roster--means you get a low cost shot at grooming a future starter.

d. Taking Tebow in round 4 makes more sence than what might happen--taking Claussen at 4 in round 1.

And that's the idea that I mock.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Great news!

This means we aren't going to blow the #4 pick on a QB and will likely go after Okung!

Even if Tebow doesn't work out as a QB, he probably could transform into a 1000 yard rusher in Shanny's system.

Posted by: p1funk | March 18, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Btown,
sometimes your pompusness does not allow you to READ what other people are saying. NE wants a proven TE... (key word "proven")Trade CC or Sleepy for one or two of their 2nd rounders. I agree it's a stretch, but they really want a TE for Brady.and this is just a blog for arm chair GMs who are sitting at their day jobs screwing their bosses out of productive company time, your not the only guy who can prognosticate.

Posted by: boysheadcoach | March 18, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Tim Tebow reminds me of Brendan Frazer.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 18, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Tim Tebow as a 3rd or 4th round pick would be okay. I think the guy can be eventually groomed as a QB, but not as an early pick. He's too much of a project. I don't like all the focus on this guy but I have a feeling that 5 years from now people will see him very differently than they do now. As long as he doesn't get any worse than Kurt Warner, his religion shouldn't be a problem.

Posted by: jfoster13 | March 18, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Tebow would be a mistake. Much like Colt prolific numbers don't always add up to being a starting NFL QB. I still want to see JC get an opportunity under Shannahan. Grossman is a smart move, he knows the offense and will be able to work the routes with receivers immediately.

I would like for us to draft Okung at #4, but I think it will be Clauson and Campbell will be traded for a later 1st round and an OT will be chosen with that pick.

Posted by: arizonaborn | March 18, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

No Comment!

Posted by: knjon353 | March 18, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

but they really want a TE for Brady

no they don't...they don't throw the ball to the TE, they let former 1st round pick Ben Watson walk, they released Chris Baker, right now they don't have a TE on their roster....the TE in their offense has to block, and not much else...

try it again...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Grossman and Tebow? Reminds me of the ol' Ball Coach dayz:

"These Gators are cheap and available."

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | March 18, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Grich, I don't think it's that people dislike him for his religious beliefs, I think people don't like him because he feels the need to say something about it ALL the time. I grew up around the Christian church and both of my grandfathers are ordained ministers, so I'm very familiar with the Tebow and Kurt Warner types.

In my experience, people who feel the need to beat people over the head with things of a religious nature tend to fall into one of two categories: either they're trying to project a certain image of themselves for marketing reasons (see Sanders, Deion) or they have a strong obsession over it. Neither seems to be very healthy.

So I don't think there are many folks that fault him for being a Christian and being proud of it...he's getting heat because he can't seem to figure out the appropriate time and place for conveying that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse


??

Sorry your grandfathers left a bad taste in your mouth re: Christianity. But I'm not sure that's really license to stereotype.

What exactly is the appropriate "time" and "place" for a Christian to be a Christian?

Is it only appropriate in the privacy of their own home with curtains drawn?

Does the Christian need to "shut it down" when he's out in public in order to appease those around him?

Posted by: p1funk | March 18, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Greg, I don't hate Tebow...I just smell a rat. Anyone who has to go to the lengths he does to "prove" he's some great Christian, either doesn't know what he's talking about or has something to hide. And if he's banging a topless model, chances a pretty strong that he's full of sh*t.

Plus he's waaaay overrated.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

try it again...

Like I have to please you and give you an answer that meets the approval of you or this site....(coughing the word BU77SH!T as in animal house).

Posted by: boysheadcoach | March 18, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

What distresses me the most?

Another year of having to deal with the "Cult of Colt" unless we exchange Colt Brennan for Colt Mccoy.

Posted by: moseley_brian | March 18, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

And if he's banging a topless model

he's not...he's admitted to never having been with a women...so thats incorrect...

not sure what lengths he's going to, but whateves....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Wow!

Which name has generated the most hate over the best couple of days?

Larry Johnson

or

Time Tebow


Folks are against the homophobe and the jesus freak in equal numbers.

Talk about fair and balanced.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but they're not talking about Tebow in the 4th are they? They'r43 talking about taking him in the 2nd!!

4th, I'm ok... and mostly as a fullback. 2nd? Stay AWAY!

I do like the Grossman signing, tho! Having one QB familiar w/ the system will go a LONG way getting the others together...

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 18, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Grossman is a smart move, he knows the offense and will be able to work the routes with receivers immediately.


Posted by: arizonaborn


I don't get this.

Grossman was in Chicago for SIX years. Threw 36 interceptions (20 in 2006) and never had a rating above 75 -- in SIX years!

He was in Houston for ONE year. And had a staggering NINE attempted passes.

If he couldn't get his sh*t together with the Bears in six, what makes you all think he got it together in Houston with one?

Grossman = asscheeks.

Dirty asscheeks

Posted by: RedDMV | March 18, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

THAT'S why his act raises red flags in my book.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Something about false praise and deeds not words being the true meaning of a Christian. A lot of people have their own personal beliefs about their God. I know I do. I wouldn't want to hear that constantly in a locker-room. In fact, it would become extremely irritating personally, and I believe to a lot of others as well. RENALDO WYNN is still on this team. He's a minister and by all accounts a good influence there. Let's see if JASON REID might put up an article on that aspect of football using an interview with WYNN as a base. I would find that very interesting rather than most of the rumors posted here as news.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 18, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Tim Tebow has won a Heisman Trophy and the first player in college-football history to both rush and throw for 20 or more touchdowns in a season, but there seem to be a bunch of folks who don't think Tebow can make it as a quarterback in the NFL.

Add Miami Dolphins quarterback Chad Henne to the list. "My judgment is that he's not an NFL quarterback," he told WQAM Miami yesterday. "I'll leave it at that."

And Henne has some inside info that may be helping come to that conclusion. Henne's position coach, David Lee, is working with Tebow to help ready him for a potential NFL gig, according to ProFootballTalk.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 18, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

And if he's banging a topless model

he's not...he's admitted to never having been with a women...so thats incorrect...

not sure what lengths he's going to, but whateves....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 8:44 AM |

Greg,

If he's not banging her Jody is.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 18, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Like I have to please you and give you an answer that meets the approval of you or this site

Yeah, sorry for correcting you on your point about NE and their TE...all I wanted was something close to the truth/reality...

lets talk unicorns shall we, or betts for Larry Fitz...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Greg, I don't hate Tebow...I just smell a rat. Anyone who has to go to the lengths he does to "prove" he's some great Christian, either doesn't know what he's talking about or has something to hide. And if he's banging a topless model, chances a pretty strong that he's full of sh*t.

Plus he's waaaay overrated.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse


Dude, you are pretty out of control with this nonsense.

The rumors linking him to Pinder are flat out false rumors.

THere's no current "Christian" athlete whose life has been more scrutinized and dissected over the past couple years than Tim Tebow, and by all accounts he's a genuine stand-up guy whose life backs up his beliefs.

Is he perfect? Of course not, but he's definitely not the phony that you seem determined to paint him to be.

Posted by: p1funk | March 18, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

If Tebow was a devout Muslim, and mentioned it every time a TV camera pointed his way, the same guys who are defending his faith would be attacking it.

Posted by: mack1 | March 18, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Advantage to drafting Tebow in the later rounds:

Unlike alot of other QBs, if Tebow doesn't actually work out as QB he can play a tailback position.

Maybe he tears it up in Shanny's run system like so many other relatively unheralded backs??

Posted by: p1funk | March 18, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

If Tebow was a devout Muslim, and mentioned it every time a TV camera pointed his way, the same guys who are defending his faith would be attacking it.

Posted by: mack1 | March 18, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse


Wow.

I guess it's "Ignorant Shoot-from-the-Hip Stereotype Thursday" on RI this morning.

Posted by: p1funk | March 18, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Somebody is likely to take TT in the first round now. Forget about taking him in the fourth.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 18, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

nice job painting with broad strokes there mack, but not even close...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

"If Tebow was a devout Muslim, and mentioned it every time a TV camera pointed his way, the same guys who are defending his faith would be attacking it."


I don't care what a guy says or does when he's not performing.

I am a hardcore practicing athiest who blames the world's troubles on the hyper-religious conflicts with the non-religious.

What athletes do in there spare time is there own bidness.

Once they all strap up, God and sexy models go out the door anyways.

The question about Tebow is, will he ever become a quality NFL player?

And the only thing about the guy I wonder about, especially where the skins are involved.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

I would like for us to draft Okung at #4, but I think it will be Clauson and Campbell will be traded for a later 1st round and an OT will be chosen with that pick.

Posted by: arizonaborn | March 18, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

In what alternate universe would Campbell get you a 1st rounder? If he could, I'd have made that deal yesterday. And I've been a Campbell supporter!

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 18, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

There's a scary thought. Are we going to take Tebow w/ #4??!!

I'd prolly like that better than Clausen if that's where they're going.

Mebbe the Gator connection is being tapped? eek. We didn't have much luck w/ that the first time around...

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 18, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Sorry your grandfathers left a bad taste in your mouth re: Christianity. But I'm not sure that's really license to stereotype.

What exactly is the appropriate "time" and "place" for a Christian to be a Christian?

Is it only appropriate in the privacy of their own home with curtains drawn?

Does the Christian need to "shut it down" when he's out in public in order to appease those around him?

Posted by: p1funk | March 18, 2010 8:41 AM


First of all, my grandfathers didn't "leave a bad taste re: Christianity". Just the opposite. They are about as good a reflection of what a Christian is supposed to be as I've ever seen. If I have a "bad taste", it's from some of their contemporaries that have shown me what true hypocrisy is.

Regardless, I don't think speaking in generalities is necessarily stereotyping. I don't think I spoke in any absolutes, all I'm saying is that Tebow fits the mold for actions I've seen in the past and he raises red flags for me.

I'll further explain the "time and place" remark: let's go back to the Cardinals NFC title game victory from a couple years ago. Kurt Warner is up on stage and rattles off a bunch of "Jesus is my Lord and Savior" stuff and goes on for a good while. Not the time and place. Thanking God first and foremost is absolutely appropriate. Going into full preach mode is not.

Tebow using "blessing" 837 times in a brief NFL Network appearance at the combine isn't appropriate for the moment. Nobody would dare take away the guy's right to speak on his religious beliefs...just don't be surprised if you rub people the wrong way if you do it in a football setting.

Flip it for a minute: how well received would it be for a minister to get up in front of his congregation and start talking football? As much as we all love talking Skins and NFL football up here, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't start the JC debate at a job interview or grab the mic at our kid's christening to weigh in on the Rex Grossman signing.

Making the occasional reference is more than appropriate. Like I said before, Darrell Green and Joe Gibbs never went to the extremes that Tebow and Warner have been known to but everybody knows those guys are Christians. There's a balance there and Tebow hasn't found it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

I have an aunt who is an internationally known psychic, and she assures me that I was an interplanetary exobiologist in a previous life ( I specialized in telepathic behaviour in swarms of fans, I mean organisms- which explains why the CIA has been on my *ss for years!!), but I can't decipher the hieroglyphics on this question, maybe because it's in the negative..

Posted by: frak | March 18, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

"There's a scary thought. Are we going to take Tebow w/ #4??!!"

You can't make stuff like this up...I mean, who really thinks this....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, should have said "some" would be attacking it. Seems like I always underestimate the tolerance of Bean and Funk. I wonder why?

Moe I agree 100%. Religions are a lot like Gator quarterbacks: terrible.

Posted by: mack1 | March 18, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

There's a scary thought. Are we going to take Tebow w/ #4??!!

I'd prolly like that better than Clausen if that's where they're going.

Mebbe the Gator connection is being tapped? eek. We didn't have much luck w/ that the first time around...

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 18, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse


I think the only team dumb enough to take Tebow in the first round is Jacksonville, and that's out of desperation.

As I understand it, the population of Jacksonville is 95% Florida alum, so it's a way to fill up that empty stadium for a couple years.

Posted by: p1funk | March 18, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

beep beep...not for you though fraky...you stay right here...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I don't believe in god any more than I believe in Santa or honest politicians. However, it seems to me that if the ONLY thing you can hold against a guy is his religion, then you probably shouldn't.

Posted by: EpsteinsMothersDoctor | March 18, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I'll try again before we blow up into another religious debate.

'Cuse or Kansas?

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 18, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I just don't trust drafting a guy who is still a virgin. losing it will change his game.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 18, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse


Be a nice backfield with Larry Johnson and Tebow...

TEBOW: Before I call a play, Larry, I think it's time we prayed to the lord to get you to stop beating up women...


Posted by: TheCork

This is from a few post back but I found it hilarious and I started imagining how this would lead to a delay of game penalty as the cvonversation continued

Johnson- "Shut-up you Homo-"get cut off
Tebow interuppts- "I don't beleive in evolution so I am not a homo spapien"
Johnson- "I was going to say sexual"
Tebow- "not in the huddle not in the locker room not anywhere, I don't do that, I'm abstaning until marriage"
Johnson- "that's legal for you to do in D.C. now right?"
Tebow- "I hope so" (missing the implications completley)
Johnson- "me too" (not lost on the implications he made)

I hope I never meet either of them for the beating I would take

Posted by: Burrasta1 | March 18, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse


Your comments have all been geared toward trying to paint Tebow like he's some big hypocritical phony. It's not like you actually know the guy.

I just don't understand why it is that you seem bent on slandering the guy's reputation.

I think he talks about being "blessed" a billion times in an interview because that's how he actually feels. And when he's talking to a reporter, the idea is for him to give his own honest answers, not to craft some canned response that will be palatable for the general public.

Posted by: p1funk | March 18, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Is he perfect? Of course not, but he's definitely not the phony that you seem determined to paint him to be.

Posted by: p1funk


Ain't no man perfect.

But how do you know that he's not frontin'?

I can name several people through personal experiences that were exposed for being a fraudulent "christian".

For those who like to swallow up what Tebow puts out there, how about this:

"Most people are open books. They say what they feel, blurt out their opinions at every opportunity, and constantly reveal their plans and intentions. They do this for several reasons.

First, it is easy and natural to always want to talk about one's feelings and plans for the future. It takes effort to control your tongue and monitor what you reveal. Second, many believe that by being honest and open they are winning people's hearts and showing their good nature. They are greatly deluded. Honesty is like a blunt instrument, which bloodies more than it cuts. Your honesty is likely to offend people; it is much more prudent to tailor your words, telling people what they want to to hear rather than the coarse and ugly truth of what you feel or think. More important, by being unabashedly open you make yourself so predictable and familiar that it is almost impossible to respect or fear you, and power will not accrue to a person who cannot inspire such emotions.

Our first instinct is to always trust appearances. We cannot go around doubting the reality of what we see and hear -- constantly imagining that appearances concealed something else would exhaust and terrify us. This makes it relatively easy to conceal one's intentions. Simply dangle an object you seem to desire, a goal you aim for in front people's eyes and they will take the appearance for reality. Once their eyes focus on the decoy, they will fail to notice what you are really up to. - Robert Greene, "The 48 Laws of Power"

Posted by: RedDMV | March 18, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Wow Which Distresses you more, as of right now:

Leading the pack is:

Drafting Jimmy Clausein with the #4 Pick 65%
The possibility of drating Tim Tebow only edgeds out Another season of JC by a %
and we are almost indifferent about the grossman signing
The Rex Grossman Signing 8%

LOL what fickle fans we be

I actually appreciate Tebow's boldness as a Christian, but I'm against him being a Redskins because I just don't think he's the answer for us at Quarterback. Has nothing to do with him personally.

Posted by: Veretax | March 18, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

If you have Jason Campbell as the starter, would you rather have Rex Grossman or Tim Tebow as your backup?

Posted by: garyolney | March 18, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

If you have Jason Campbell as the starter, would you rather have Rex Grossman or Tim Tebow as your backup?

Posted by: garyolney | March 18, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

I'd take Tebow in an instant because he is a WINNER and we don't have enough of those on our roster.

Posted by: SkinsFanNYC | March 18, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Tebow in 4th? Absolutely.

Clausen anywhere above Free Agent signing? NOOOOOOOOOO!

Posted by: kone | March 18, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I don't see Tebow as an answer. I see him as another roll of the dice like Colt Brennan. I wouldn't mind taking him in the 5th round. I think those late round picks are perfect for this type of gamble. I think we should do that almost every other year. QBs and draft picks are at such a premium that if even one of these guys pans out it could really help us out. Most 5th rounders bomb anyway so if Tebow bombs then who cares? If he pans out then maybe he nets us a high draft pick or even becomes the guy.

As for the answer at QB, I don't think this team is good enough to even ask that question. I think we need to rebuild for a year or two then try to answer that question. Rebuild the oline and RBs this year and next while filling in the holes on defense and see where we stand. The smart money would be on building a really good team around Jason Cambell and seeing what he has. At the very least you increase his trade value and can dump him off in 2 years. Cassel looked great with the Pats and their 4 seconds of pass protection. Once he got to the Chiefs and only had 2-3 seconds he looked like crap but the Pats got a 2nd rounder for him anyway. I know you guys are going to say why build around Jason Campbell? It's simple. We already have Jason Campbell. If we let him go for nothing then we get nothing out of him. Not only that but we have to spend a high draft pick to replace him. That would be an acceptable idea if we were close to being competitive in the playoffs but we're nowhere near that level. I just don't see the urgency to replace him. Let's boost his trade value in the next couple years then move him. It just seems like we're selling low and buying high with QBs here and that's why we will always be at the bottom of the NFC East.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 18, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

If Tebow was not a bible verse spouting white guy who the white establishment finds non-threatening he would be a non-entity.

Posted by: mjwies11 | March 18, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

but they really want a TE for Brady

no they don't...they don't throw the ball to the TE, they let former 1st round pick Ben Watson walk, they released Chris Baker, right now they don't have a TE on their roster....the TE in their offense has to block, and not much else...

try it again...

I'll try,
Ben Watson 29 404 13.9 36 5td, 3rd leading Rec. after Welker and Moss. 2nd in Td's after Moss.
Sam Aiken 20 326 16.3 81 2td so thats 730 yards and 7tds.... So who do use there TE.I'm not saying trade C. Cooley but any good QB would love to have him....

Now your turn TYR AGAIN......

Posted by: pikedawg | March 18, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I'd take Tebow in an instant because he is a WINNER and we don't have enough of those on our roster.

Posted by: SkinsFanNYC

That goofball corny scrap don't work in the NFL. All Florida QBs were "winners" in college. He's a good kid but I don't want him any where close to Ashburn.

Posted by: dcwun | March 18, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

You think there's a Cult of Colt? Just wait and see what the clamor will be like if we draft Tebow.

And just like I disagree with the people saying Colt should play, I disagree with the Tebow supporters. Tebow's a winner with NFL size and athleticism. What he doesn't have right now is an NFL QB game. Release questions, system questions, etc. He's a project who with a lot of work and several years of waiting may turn out to be a decent pro.

Whenever I've watched Florida, I didn't see a QB shredding defenses with his arm and brain. Has decent arm strength but doesn't really have a cannon. Isn't particularly accurate. Long throwing motion. I generally saw a QB who got the ball into the hands of the superior talent around him and who had the ability to take off and run.

Doesn't really scream NFL starting QB to me, but maybe he's worth a low round pick to develop later. Great college player, but I don't see his strengths translating to the next level. Not unless you run the spread (like NE), and get Percy Harvin.

And that's the problem. If he's going to be successful, the system would have to be built around his strengths. I don't think he's worth it at this level and frankly, neither are any of the other QBs this year. Maybe Bradford due to his reputed accuracy but only if he's healthy.

Posted by: manifested | March 18, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

If and this is a big if, but if Shannahan thinks Tebow has the skills to be an NFL QB then I have no problem with them picking him in the second. The guy is a winner, has a good attitude, and he has leadership skills. Winners win, some people dont like hearing that but it is true. Most of the guys who are busts at the NFL level either got drafted by a crappy team with crappy coaches and drafted into the wrong system for their skills, or they were more worried about money than proving they belong in the NFL. So if Shannahan thinks he has the skills to fit his system, I have no problem picking him up in the 2nd round. Winners always find a way to win, they will do what they have to do and will work as hard as they have to work to win.

Posted by: hudginsc | March 18, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Wow,

Tebows faith and expression thereof have really hit a cord out here among us huh? His personal faith system (whatever it is) should be shown at least a modicum of basic respect. We may not all agree with it (I do, however), and that is ok. I think the guy is a good guy, not a saint, but at least he is trying (that's all any of us can really do). If he was up there proclaiming the virtues of some other faith system (Atheism, Agnosticism, etc, etc)....the majority of the public would find him so "enlightening" and "wise", BUT something about the name of Jesus Christ really gets certain people all uncomfortable and angry. There is alot to be said about that, in and of itself.....its a very telling reality. I say kudos for Tim for just trying to be who he really is, including his athleticism, faith, successes, failures, sins, etc, etc. Personally, I wasted too many years NOT speaking my mind about my faith for many reasons, youth, nerves, fear, uncertainty, etc, etc....now I am an older man and I lay it on the line for my faith. Some people may not like it, but most will never confront me on it, and its ok even if they do confront me on it. Tim is a big boy, (as am I, as are most grown men)...we can take it if people dont like us being verbal about our faith. After all, some verbal criticism from people is nothing when held up to what Jesus went through and experienced on our behalves. Also, quite frankly I dont know if I would want to be the leader of an NFL team and in a locker room and going to battle each week with a bunch of guys who may have a problem with me being the kind of man that I feel I am supposed to be....if that is the case, then trade me ya know. Finally, our Redskins had as much success as they did eons ago for more reasons than just the level of talent we had on the field...we had people in place who were full of integrity and MORALS and ETHICS and FAITH....Gibbs, Green, Monk, Taylor, Casserly, Cooke Family, etc, etc....we get back to those core principles (along with a decent RB and running game), we take over at the top of the NFL mountain again....Were We Belong!!!

HAIL and....
GOD BLESS REDSKINS NATION!!

Posted by: httr20081 | March 18, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Not with the #4 or 37th pick but if they were to trade back and acquire more picks or just take him in the 4th round or later I'd be ok with taking Tebow.

Posted by: skinswest | March 18, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

All you clowns complaining about Tebow at #4 must be stupid. This is clearly for the 2nd round or later. I would actually rather the Skins take Tebow in the 2nd just to guarantee they don't take Clausen 4th. Seriously. I hate Clausen that much. That punk has BUST written all over him.

Posted by: chwilli9 | March 18, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I wanna see Tebow land here & try to convert Snyder. That will make for new drama/dysfunction in the perpetual 'Skins soap opera.

Posted by: nonsensical2001 | March 18, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

In my experience, people who feel the need to beat people over the head with things of a religious nature tend to fall into one of two categories: either they're trying to project a certain image of themselves for marketing reasons (see Sanders, Deion) or they have a strong obsession over it. Neither seems to be very healthy.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 18, 2010 7:52 AM

Judge much?

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | March 18, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I don't want Tebow using my team as the mouthpiece for his self-righteous power-bracelet ego, and dragging the redskins into the culture wars.

When I read about the redskins or watch them on television, it's a break from a lot of things and I don't want my nose rubbed in Tebows politics, which I happen to abhor.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | March 18, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I give a big ehhh on tebow, but I'd rather have him on the redskins than clausen.

Posted by: ddrcoaster | March 18, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing to read the comments on here. Let's not forget that we have spent the last ten years with the likes of Danny Wuerffel (Sp?), Tony Banks, Gus Frerotte, Shane Matthews, Jeff George among others. And we are snubbing the signing of Grossman as a backup QB and the option of Tebow in the draft? Really? If they are looking at Tebow it probably means they are looking at Pike, McCoy, LeFevour and others. It also HOPEFULLY means that they are just being thorough in their scouting and are planning on Okung @ 4 and then who will be available in the later rounds that might warrant a pick @ the QB position. The NFL has a lot of guys who have been arrested for DUI manslaughter, Dog fighting, battery and assault among other things and numerous court cases (Big Ben). If Tebow wants to say "Blessed" every fifth word I don't care. As long as we take Okung and they are being thorough. Hey at least we don't have Vinny Cerrato anymore.

Posted by: A_o_C57 | March 18, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

i hope Shani and Allen trick a lot of other teams (specially the Jaguars) into taking a QB or Tebow or whatever that they surrender a lot of picks to trade up so more picks for us!!!!! LOL

HTTR!

Posted by: datruth21 | March 18, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I bet Gibbs - that old bible thumping codger - reached to Snyder and Shanny to take a look at this power-bracelet dream date.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | March 18, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, we should pass on Tebow. The guy is probably going to go in the second round, but so many of you amatuer GM's seem to know more about football than the people who actually do the work.
Yep, he's too nice and has morals, as well. Let's go find us some thugs so we can improve this team. You guys are a total joke.

Posted by: sorry2say | March 18, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I'd be okay with Tebow but only if we got him in the 3rd round

if we draft a QB in the second round would prefer McCoy

oh dear God no Clausen at #4

Posted by: graywolf323 | March 18, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I think Tebow is an excellent addition to any team because he's a strong leader, he's in great physical shape, and he's got high moral standards. Yes, I am a christian, and am glad to see there is someone in his position who's not ashamed to show it. He's just trying to reach out to people.
Now, should the Redskins take him? I would love it, but at the same time we have enough QB's on the roster and they are all mediocre in my opinion. I would be concerned that he needs some time in the NFL before he's really the impact the 'Skins need. So, why go after him now? Some other team might snatch him up, season him well, and then we'd be losing out on the change our team needs.
I'm sorry, but Jason Campbell and the other two bench warmers are not going to make a difference. We need a strong leader and great athlete like Tebow. And the fact that he'd keep himself out of trouble because of his strong faith is a plus.

Posted by: gruoff | March 18, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

We ar-ready have a QB that's a dumba** and it ain't Grossman

Posted by: ElYeah | March 18, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

No Tebow. IMO he will only be another Heath Shular who did good in college but bombed in the NFL. Let's not make this mistake again by drafting Tebow please!

Posted by: ladyredskins | March 18, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

God make it stop. I'm not a big fan of the Skins drafting Tim Tebow but who cares about the religious stuff. His teammates at Florida apparently didn't care about it. There are all types of people in a football locker room. As for the "He's a winner" thing. So are 90% of the guys that play in the NFL. Jason Campbell was a winner in college. Jamarcus Russell was a winner in college. Eric Crouch was a winner in college. Don't get me wrong being a winner in college is a good thing but on top of that your skillset has to translate to the NFL game and I personally don't think Tebow will be a good NFL QB. That being said I'm not a scout and it's a good thing that the Skins are doing their due diligence.

Posted by: ouvan59 | March 18, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

In reference to the poster above about Mike Holmgren and his comments about Tebow, if Tebow is so great then, the Browns should draft him and if they don't them Holmgren's comments are moot.

Posted by: ladyredskins | March 18, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Whoever put signing Grossman is to stupid to post on this blog.

He knows the offense this means you don't have to waste time teaching it to your backup QB.

Posted by: Flounder21

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The Offensive Coordinator knows the offense too - doesn't mean I want him under center come game time.


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Posted by: oldnova | March 18, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Religious beliefs are like one's sex life - nothing to be ashamed of, but private, not something to be foisted upon others, or discussed sans prompting. It makes others uncomfortable, and leads to conflict far more often than it does conversion. Some ppl (are you listening TT fan club?) either don't get that, or put their own feelings of self-righteousness above the feelings of others. THAT, along w/ the obvious lack of NFL caliber talent, is why so many of us are wary of any talk of TT being a Redskin, and downright aghast @ the idea of taking him with anything above a 3rd rd. pick (which I know, we lack).

Btw, if I were a player in the locker room following a heart-breaking loss, and some bible-thumping fool laid some nonsense on me about how the "Lord work works in mysterious ways," I'd have to be restrained...

Posted by: hogmeister | March 18, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I want O-line!!!! 1st round or two.
I would not be opposed to drafting Tebow in the 2nd or 3rd round and let him sit and learn for 2-3 years.
I have a feeling Shanny can get Campbell up and back on track to being a productive QB.
Bradford may be there at 4. Let's see what he does at his pro day. Whatever happens it will be interesting to re-visit this draft in 5 years and see where the QBs are at in their careers. I think Clausen is a bigger NO than Tebow. Just give me an O-tackle in the 1st round. I trust the new boys to do the rest.
Redskin Slim - Biggest fan in Florida!!

Posted by: ftlskins1 | March 18, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

hogmeister, that is among the top 5 dumbest posts ever written. Congratulations.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | March 18, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

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