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Nicky's in Town

Well, Novak fans, your time might be upon us. John Hall has another quad injury and Coach Gibbs is very concerned about it. Novak will be part of a kicker competition tomorrow, according to sources, and we'll see how it turns out.
Doesn't sound good for Hall, either way.

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 9, 2006; 5:13 PM ET
 
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Any tryouts for new CB's and Safety's???

Posted by: Rob | October 9, 2006 5:15 PM | Report abuse

good riddance!

nicky's kickoffs were really short...but a good clutch kicker he is...i hope he wins the competition.

Posted by: dealer | October 9, 2006 5:21 PM | Report abuse

They are about 6 weeks behind on calling Nick.

Tell John, 'Up Here' the kicker kicks fields goals and kickoffs. 'Up Here', we can't have a kicker with a tired leg, and we JUST handed you kickoff duties for one game. Sammy Baugh must turning in his grave (if that is where he is).

Posted by: A Dog | October 9, 2006 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Novak have blocked field goals in consecutive games when he was here?

Posted by: Phil | October 9, 2006 5:41 PM | Report abuse

This is a really bad joke. Right? Right?

Let's see, wasn't Morten Anderson available just a little bit ago? Didn't he just go 5 for 5 the other week?

Posted by: Megskin | October 9, 2006 5:46 PM | Report abuse

go terps!!!

i like hall...but he is sketchy with his injuries as of late and that has hurt his accuracy and cause a waterfall affect on our punting and kickoffs...with all our other problems, we just dont need one here...i think its good they are bringing others and especially nick in...something they should have done in preseason...among other things...like work on the play book!!!

Posted by: deadskin | October 9, 2006 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Meg, but it's no joke. We only joke about "Anchorman."
Maybe we can nickname him "AutomatNick."

Posted by: Jason's editor | October 9, 2006 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Well then Cindy, I think it's time we consult a Voodoo specialist.

Posted by: Megskin | October 9, 2006 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Meg, alert me when it's time for an exorcism.

Posted by: Jason's editor | October 9, 2006 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we can get Doug Flutie and he can drop kick everything :P.

Posted by: Megskin | October 9, 2006 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Remember that Sammy Baugh is still alive.

Just saying.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | October 9, 2006 6:00 PM | Report abuse

The stubborn Coach should have got this going earlier. JMan, have you called Nick yet?
Phil, his first field goal as a pro was blocked by Seattle, but in OT (after their kicker bonked one to win in regulation) Nick kicked the game winner. If you look back to the first Cowboy game last year, Nick made the saving tackle on the kick-off after Bomb #2(Ouch Roy W!!).
Late.

Posted by: coolio | October 9, 2006 6:09 PM | Report abuse

George Michael just interviewed Gibbs and he said that Hall told him his leg was shot (well, that's not the way he worded it). So that is why they are looking at other kickers...not because Gibbs decided to bench Hall. He said that he felt really bad for Hall.

Posted by: Lisa | October 9, 2006 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Maybe if we had an actual GM who knew what he was doing, Danny wouldn't have gone out and bought anyone/everyone that his coach wanted. Most of these JetSkins haven't done much since they got here - except for Thomas. Although Coles was able to get us Moss through his whining & complaining.

Posted by: David | October 9, 2006 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Hall has been so-so, but even if he's perfect, we might be 3-2, at best. He did come thru against Jax, not against Minn (a lengthy kick to tie, not win). He isn't the issue so far. The miss against NYG didn't change anything.

Posted by: AL | October 9, 2006 6:22 PM | Report abuse

That's nothing but a Gibbs cover up.

Posted by: A Dog | October 9, 2006 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I think the issues with Hall have more to do with the fact that he cannot kick off well and he does not have range. Other than that he's a fairly pedestrian kicker; accurate from around the 40s but otherwise unexceptional.

His kicking isn't horrible, but it isn't great either. Factor in the kickoff issue, as well as the fact that he is constantly injured, and there's a great case for replacing him instanter.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | October 9, 2006 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Can we try out a kicker that can punt too? Frost is terrible.

Posted by: calebt17 | October 9, 2006 6:58 PM | Report abuse

How is Nick's hair?

What's with all the Gibbs conspiracy theories? It's not like he's the president or something. He's just a football coach. Last I checked, football coaches weren't exactly rocket scientists. Sure, maybe he's protecting the ego of a player because NO BOSS worth his salt publicly berates an employee (except, that is, "Mr." Snyder). But it's not like he's perpetuating some "cover up". Maybe Hall really is hurt and he's just bringing in another kicker.

I'm happy Novack gets another shot at it. Jess Atkinson, redux.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 9, 2006 7:27 PM | Report abuse

i have a question...what kind of business decision is it to give the scoop to espn (another source for skins news, and also a snyder-hater peskyrely) when you're trying to become the media moghul (all things skins)? i know they're (skins and espn) partners but danny letting pesky!!! get the credit???? where's danny "i'll send you a tv so you can watch football cuz you'll never play in this league again" snyder on this one?

a bit weird i find.

wonder if vinny's behind this...

hmmmmmmm not a big scoop neway...

let's see what comes out the players, coaches meeting...they're favored by 9 points. and if anyone who knows gregg w, his playbook inside out, and his staff it's fisher(titans) and not pierce or giants (relatively). so that'll be interesting to see.

Posted by: dealer | October 9, 2006 8:56 PM | Report abuse

We need a new kicker, we really need Springs back and healthy, I'd glady trade Adam to Pittsburgh if we could get Clark back......and these new receivers are not bringing any memories of the possie back! I dont even want to talk about our punter, its that bad!!!!! So whats the good news guys????? Oh, I almost forgot with all this other stuff, the good news is we still have Gibbs....(Chanting 10 in a row or we dont go!!!!)

Posted by: where's_da_possie | October 9, 2006 9:15 PM | Report abuse

NO BOSS worth his salt publicly berates an employee (except, that is, "Mr." Snyder).


Be glad that our owner's last name does not start with Stein and end with brenner

Posted by: SFfan | October 9, 2006 9:20 PM | Report abuse

SFfan:

On the surface, they share many traits:

- Overpriced rosters full of underachievers
- Quirky, eccentric, egotistical boss
- Emphasis on acquiring "big names" over "team players"

I think "Mr." Snyder has become a MUCH better owner over the years (and I think he admits as much). I also think he has become a MUCH better owner after turning the team over to St. Joe.

Honestly, I don't follow baseball and can't say much about Steinbrenner's evolution as an owner.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 9, 2006 9:27 PM | Report abuse

That would be devolution P. Diddy.

Posted by: Megskin | October 9, 2006 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Well, obviously, I've never met either man, so it's hard to say what's really going on. I can only go by what the papers report. And I don't give a darn about baseball, so I know nothing about Steinbrenner.

I do know that "Mr." Snyder made me care about 'Skins football again when he got St. Joe to come back. For that, I am eternally grateful.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 9, 2006 10:00 PM | Report abuse

P, yankee-man is a much much better owner than snyder (today). he has 4/5 world series and so on...and he knows more about baseball than snyder knows about football. he knew enough to hire torre, have a farm system, gm. and then i guess he got a bit too addicted to world series and lost patience...but snyder came in without any patience and him hiring joe gibbs was another indication of having none.

he picked the ol'ball coach(absolutely my favorite public figure in the world! but not an nfl hc material) over saban, he gave total control to schotenheimer rather than hire a gm (first). not that having a gm is a cureall or anything.

but i do love the way he markets/spends money on this team though. he's probly the first owner to ever own his fav. childhood team?

anyways...just saw cb pick off mcnaire in the endzone...never really liked bailey here but sure could use him now...

Posted by: dealer | October 9, 2006 10:44 PM | Report abuse

How was hiring Joe Gibbs a sign of no patience? Who in their right mind wouldn't hire a HOF coach?

Posted by: Megskin | October 9, 2006 10:46 PM | Report abuse

This is about Nick Novak -- let's keep it that way. YEAH MARYLAND AND NICK NOVAK!

Posted by: Novak fan | October 9, 2006 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Non-kicker-related thoughts and questions:

* I think we are better than most folks think we are, and that we'll do OK. We'll beat the Titans and we'll beat the Colts too, to everyone's surprise.

* Jason, this reader would love to learn more about why the coaches decided to kick the field goal on 4th and 1 against the Giants. I was also surprised by the pass attempt on 3rd down.

I assume the odds of picking up a single yard on the ground are pretty darn good. When you have two downs to do it, the odds of success must be very high. In this case, when we were down two TDs in the waning moments of the 3rd quarter, why try the FG? Sure, the 4th is a long quarter, and we were assured several chances to score. But given where we were on the field (what was it, the 25?) and our mixed success moving the ball, why not try to pick up the 1st? Who made the call, Gibbs or Saunders? (I know Gibbs gets to make some of these 4th down decisions.)

I am all for the Joe Gibbs risk-averse approach; it's boring, but I believe it wins football games. But in this case, I don't think the numbers add up. I think you go for it on 4th.

* I am concerned about the secondary. Without a doubt, the return of a healthy Shawn Springs would help. But groin injuries can tend to linger, and you can't assume Springs will be full throttle as soon as he comes back.

* I suspect Carter and Archuleta will prove their value in time.

* I worry that Lloyd might kinda suck.

* I think coaches may undervalue the probably very real synergy often referred to as "chemistry." It seems true that a team's ability to communicate efficiently would build over time, and that athletes aren't simply interchangeable parts. Tai Babilonia would have been hella pissed if some jackass couch replaced Randy Gardner with Rod Gardner, say. So maybe that's part of why the defense is worse than previous years. Of course, the defense of 2004 had lots of good players, although we may not have fully realized it at the time.

Posted by: A Goat | October 9, 2006 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Another thing:

* What was up with Brunell seemingly requesting that the coaches call the plays quicker? There were a couple false starts on that drive, and then a delay of game. The talking hosehead commentators said they thought Brunell was asking that for the plays to come quicker. Was that true? If so, what was the hold-up? Does Saunders need help thumbing through his 700 page masterwork? Do we need to hire him a librarian? Can Google help?

Posted by: A Goat | October 9, 2006 11:01 PM | Report abuse

I suspect Carter and Archuleta will prove their value in time.

I see the crack has been making the rounds again. Listen people, drugs are bad for you mmmkay?

Posted by: Megskin | October 9, 2006 11:05 PM | Report abuse

meg, he went for quick fix again instead of going after a younger assistant, college coach (a nonflashy college coach). gibbs is 66 years old. he has diabetes. just after two seasons he's already relieved himself of duties that put him in hof (as you pointed out) and not for his gm/ceo duties. most likely because of his health. otherwise talk to the players and they'll tell you they were a receiver away from going to the superbowl. that was bethard (of course you'd know that).

and he gives he hof-er something he didn't have the first time around. something he probly shouldn't've had. full control with mr. dweeb as talent scout.

let's say they win the superbowl this year (highly unlikely due to our defensive play but i'm keeping the hope alive and that's why i'm on here at 11 or so on a school night ;)

then what? fire sale? another 10 years of mediocrity(sorry can't spell)...i rather do it the way the yankees did it the first time around...thru draft or the way patriots are doing it thru draft. there's a reason players have career years during their contract years.

and gibbs is just as impatient as his owner ...playing brunell over not playing campbell (at all), giving up picks to keep a tj ducket rb from going to the eagles (for this year only), getting 2 receivers when you probly only needed one(jevon walker) and could've used money on o and d line...blah blah blah...i'm tired...going to sleep...peace! out!

Posted by: dealer | October 9, 2006 11:15 PM | Report abuse

***NewsFlash***
Tony K's hair demands transplant.
Story after the game.

Posted by: Megskin | October 9, 2006 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I believe Snyder has stepped back since Gibbs return....or at least it appears that way. We really do not hear or see much of him at the game anymore (unless he brings TomKat)>

Posted by: Lisa | October 9, 2006 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Not going on 4th and 1 these past two weeks says to me the coaches either are too stubborn or don't trust their players. Both times they should have gone and both times they had a drive going. Would have changed this weeks game. Just hand it to CP, he's the only guy I trust to play 100% all the time.

Posted by: chillsonic | October 9, 2006 11:43 PM | Report abuse

>>> "I worry that Lloyd might kinda suck."

Me too. And judging from his interviews on redskins.com, I really like the guy. I hope he turns it around. He seems like a really good person who genuinely loves to play the game. I can't stand these prima donna punks who always have a chip on their shoulder with the media. Lloyd always has a smile on his face.

Wish he could run and catch, though. Because then he'd be unstoppable. He might even get to do a mayonnaise endorsement or something.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 9, 2006 11:47 PM | Report abuse

If we are going to continue the worst DB's/safteies of all time on the Redskins discussion, which was a bit enjoyable.... Like talking about a cut that has healed and the looking at the scar, it all seems so funny now.... We must mention corner, converted to Saftey, eventual Nickel-Dime back David Terrell out of Texas El Paso. A defensive backfield mate of Sam Shade, he was routinely torched for 4+ years, including the 8-8 Superbowl squad with Dieon Saunders and Jeff George.

Posted by: Saftey-Grader | October 9, 2006 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I forgot to ask this...what the hell was James Thrash doing playing? Aren't Lloyd, Patten and Randal El in front of him? Oh wait, I forgot, Patten was scratched for the game. What was I thinking. Silly me.

Posted by: Megskin | October 10, 2006 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Terrell was great on special teams, though. He was the Ade Jimoh of that era.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | October 10, 2006 12:16 AM | Report abuse

I thought the same thing Meg when I saw Patton's mug in street clothes standing behind Gibbs on the first series. (The crack thing was funny too).

4th and one with Sellers or Duckett against 2 average tackles was the way to go. They were expecting a dump off twice, CP dropped a tough pass, and Cooley had a tough throw. NFS, other than Saunders making the call.

Late.

Posted by: coolio | October 10, 2006 2:53 AM | Report abuse

Is the team going to bring in a couple of new DB's too?

Posted by: Uncle Joe | October 10, 2006 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Did somebody call for a voodoo specialist?

Posted by: Gibby | October 10, 2006 8:30 AM | Report abuse

A Goat: I was left baffled by that decision as well. The Skins clearly needed something to give them momentum, and turn the game around, andt that seemed like a perfect opportunity, heading into the fourth quarter. Instead they did nothing, and nothing came of it.

Go Terps, good luck to Novak.

Posted by: Pike | October 10, 2006 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Never thought the defense would be this bad. Maybe we need a new kicker but John Hall is the least of what ails the Redskins. With a final score of 19-3 unless Hall missed 5 FGs he's not the problem. Our defense just couldn't stop them.

Posted by: Bart | October 10, 2006 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Before I launch into my Diatribe there is something i find very disconcerting on these boards.

I'd like a bloglaw ruling. Since I found out he makes people call him Mr.....,I can't even say it, I have only ever referred to him as "The Danny".

I may be stupid enough to pay his exhorbitant prices and root for a team that breaks my heart but i'll never EVER call him Mr..... I don't even like to read it. What do you all think?

Posted by: Skinz | October 10, 2006 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Ok first off. Terrell was without a doubt the worst DB I have ever seen. There was not a Touchdown scored in his 2 years as a starter in which he was not somehow responsible.

Go back and look at the tape. He was within 10 yards but never within 5 yards of every TD for 2 years. Often time i though they put him in on Offense knowing we'd throw an INT for a touchdown.

Posted by: Skinz | October 10, 2006 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the 3rd and 1. Saunders said that they had run the ball on 3rd and 1 all six times this year. According to Saunders they made the decision on friday that the first 3 and 1 would be a button to Sellers which had worked along the goal line so well last year. Brunell decided to go inside to Cooley instead.

Posted by: Skinz | October 10, 2006 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I think $nyder is money-grubbing pond-scum, so I don't really care what we call him, he is not going to be getting any honorifics like "Mister" from me. However, I have to hand it to him, at least he cares and spends money on the team and really, truly wants to win. How he goes about has been questionable in the past, but I'll take him over just about any other owner in the league.

Posted by: Megskin | October 10, 2006 9:48 AM | Report abuse

hey there. A bunch of people jumped all me for calling him The Danny a few times in the early days of this blog, going on about how un-original it was (which I conceded up front) and how direspectful it was (which, frankly, I thought was a stretch at best).

So since then I've often called him The Snyder.
I'm open to any sort of bloglaw vote on this one.
I can go either

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | October 10, 2006 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Too bad we can't vocalize on a blog, calling him "Danny" like Judge Smells in Caddyshack.

Posted by: Megskin | October 10, 2006 9:57 AM | Report abuse

skinz, danny means no harm to this team. it's just that he doesn't know much football and he doesn't know who to listen to. and hey, at least we're number one in one category "the most valued/profitable franchise in all of america (which probly means the world right?)".

what other owner would you rather have? kraft? ummm no. too slimy. squire? rember the squire hired NORV!!! from his deathbed....c'mon! a girl?????????!!!

my guess is he'll learn...soon i hope. he's only like 35-40? he's tried almost everything now. all the extremes: too much power, no power, too much power, too much faith, there's only one way left and it's the right way. just a couple more years and we'll be on the right track.

if i was the owner. i would've fired norv and casserly right away. after norv i would've hired russ grimm as the hc (well maybe not that soon...but someone fresh like john fox but kept grimmy in the staff). hired a gm (on a short leash. 2 bad years and he's out. and hire another gm.). coach on a 5 year program. and build thru draft picks. i mean ricky williams trade was a thing of beauty. had we continued on that path we might've been decent every year.

as a fan, i hope i'm soooooooooooooooooo wrong about thinking that draft is the only way to go. it's not funny. it'd be sooooooooooo sweet to be wrong.

can't wait till the colts game.

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Yes it's certainly not an original thought on my part. Respect is earned not bought and I reject any attempt by him to force it.

Meg,

I agree with you on the passion and caring. I'll say this, the best boss' I have had 1. Hire Good people. 2. Empower them. 3. Get out of the way and let them do their job.

In that respect he's a poor owner in my opinion. Although he's getting better. I wouldn't take him over any owner in the league, Kraft comes to mind. I do agree we could certainly do much worse

Posted by: Skinz | October 10, 2006 10:05 AM | Report abuse

How about taking the naming thing in a totally other direction. Like, say, what about Bro' Snydes? Or Mr. Going-To-Get-You?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2006 10:11 AM | Report abuse

mr. doughboy? since he's got lots of it...

honestly i don't think you can attack snyder personally. because if you allow personal attacks on him then baby you (the post) better know that there're people out there who don't like him and want him to fail just because he's a member of the tribe. i've heard so many "skins fans" go there that it's...well...it's what it is...

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 10:19 AM | Report abuse

and if you're going to fault snyder for making money then what's gibbs doing? two timing and all. with him mixing his nascar binness and skins binness. so don't go there.

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Skinz: you are definitely right on all those points. And from that point of view he kinda does suck, but I think he'll do whatever it takes--even if that means taking himself out of the equation. He seems to be trying, I'll give him that.

Posted by: Megskin | October 10, 2006 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Dealer,

Let me get this straight. Kraft is too Slimy? Everytime I see Danny in his Tom Cruise Glasses (I was saying that before the MNF game) I squirm.

Female owners: I've had better female boss' than male boss'. Don't kid yourself.

Posted by: Skinz | October 10, 2006 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Why would Brunell elect to throw over running Sellers on 3rd and 1?

Just for that - We NEED to put in Jason Campbell.

Posted by: A Dog | October 10, 2006 10:32 AM | Report abuse

We got punished in that Giants game. Let's not even talk about it anymore. Pretend it's your old best friend that started hooking up with your ex-girlfriend one month after you broke up. Jason's right, we should have easily lost by another 14 points. And on the field goal, don't disagree with it too much considering he did the same thing against Jacksonville and it worked out.

What I want to focus on is the quotes from LaVar in the Wilbon column. Here is what he said:

"But, you know, I'm going to take the high road," said Arrington, still stung from a very public shot from Redskins linebackers coach Dale Lindsey.

"Some people," Arrington said, "would clearly love me to say something that would separate me from Washington, D.C. and from the community of people I grew to love there. And I'm not going to do it even though they insult my intelligence. I'm not going to do what they want me to do. I love Washington.

"It doesn't matter how they got me up out of there. I will continue to love Washington. I will continue to do my community service there. I will continue to live there. It's not like I'm jumping ship. I'm not going to stand here and say, 'See, I told you.' The New York Giants needed this victory today more than I needed to beat the Redskins. The Giants needed to beat the Redskins Sunday, and that's the story."

It was so classless of Lindsey to say those things publicly about Arrington like he is an idiot. LaVar is one of the smartest athletes in pro sports and smarter than most of the people on this blog. There's a difference between being a risk-taker and being stupid.

Very LaVar-sensitive right now.

Posted by: The Governor | October 10, 2006 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Who put the decaf in Megskin's coffee cup this morning?!?!?! Talk about grumpy ...
Until we can trade owners, I figure we are $tuck with Mr. $nyder. I thought, however, that Mr. Gibbs was getting the hiring decisions under control.
Nine years seems like a fine age to retire, even if Morton Anderson is still kicking again. [JHall: See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.] I think the guys trying out ALL seem promising, except I don't see the wisdom in picking up cast-off veterans Peterson or Kimrin. I think we should pick our dynasty kicker now and stick with him forever - Tyler Jones or Nick Novak. [Maybe time to reconsider our on-side punter, Mr. Frost, while we're at it.]
While I too remain optimistic that the Skins will be the ones who spoil the Colts' fake undefeated season, I notice how the Titans were ahead for most of that Colts-Titans game. Vince Young seems to be choosing the Michael Vick route to the running game. THIS WEEK is the week to get Rocky playing time to cover on the outside, if only because Rocky is faster than Holdman. Holdman was not horrible, just tired, like everyone else on the defense after (1) the Giants' first possession kept them on the field forever, (2) the missed Hall FG on 4th and 1 took the momentum out of the Offense's ability to develop momentum, and (3) the multiple, consecutive offensive penalties caused Brunell to lose his cool. We could have won that game; the score differential was a product of the Giants running up the points as an at-home, NFC rival is wan to do.
I figure that, if Portis' shoulder really is OK, we should be able to open up the running game up the middle against the Titan's (now without Albert Polka Haynesworth) and re-establish some confidence leading up to the Colts. Healthy offense compensates for struggling defense. The question is: does Springs make it back for Indianapolis? or do we have to wait till after the bye week and the Cowboys here?

Posted by: dcsween | October 10, 2006 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Skinz, for defending us! Dealer has made two derogatory remarks about women this morning. Not sure why he's hatin.

Posted by: Dana C. | October 10, 2006 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Skinz,

Kraft the best owner in the NFL? Hardly...he totally screwed his team this season.

Did anyone read the article on Snyder in the Washingtonian a few months ago? Very enlightening....and he admitted to making a lot of mistakes.

Posted by: Lisa | October 10, 2006 11:02 AM | Report abuse

"Kraft the best owner in the NFL? Hardly...he totally screwed his team this season."

Hmm, let's see 4-1, top of is Division, mid ranged price tickets. Most cap room in the league. 3 recent Superbowls. If that's getting screwed then sign me up.

Posted by: Skinz | October 10, 2006 11:10 AM | Report abuse

dana c., girls=cowboys as in cowgirls...in skinsfanland. lot of assuming i was doing and look what it led to? :)

skinz, how old are you? do you rember the kraft of old? kraft of 1-15, kraft of i need a new stadium and i'll do whatever it takes to get one? hold the city/region hostage. or the present kraft. no loyalty to players what so ever.

no, gimme doughboy over slimy krafty anytime.

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 11:12 AM | Report abuse

:) one more...i agree with one thing...it was absolutely positively(negatively) classless for lindsey to do what he did last week. how could st. joe allow that is beyond me.

and lavar is and always was overrated. never really lived up to the hype.

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Who put the decaf in Megskin's coffee cup this morning?!?!?! Talk about grumpy ...

Not sure which of my comments was grumpy sounding but yeah, I hadn't had any coffee when I wrote that. Caffeine has been applied. Now you should really worry :P.

Posted by: Megskin | October 10, 2006 11:19 AM | Report abuse

The question is: does Springs make it back for Indianapolis?

We are in so much trouble if he isn't. If it's that bad, he'll probably be out for the year.

Posted by: Megskin | October 10, 2006 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Dealer: Tis all good!

(My bad on the first diss -- was reading too fast ... skipping words ... it was early ... so embarrassed!)

Posted by: Dana C. | October 10, 2006 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Hall hasn't ever lived up to the contract we gave him when he left the jets. He's found a way to get injured every year so this year I say we dump him and sign Novak.
I thought we should've kept Novak the last time. We haven't had a decent kicker since Lohmiller and I think Novak could be that guy.

Posted by: Denny | October 10, 2006 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Hmm let's analyze this:

How old am I? Old enough.

Do you remember the kraft of old? Not sure what you mean.

Kraft of 1-15? No, no i don't. Nor does anyone else for that matter because it never happened. Oooops.

Hold the region hostage. The prior owners wanted a buyout of the stadium lease, (Which Kraft owned) and Kraft, a season ticket holder since 71 refused to sell it even though it was above market value because the prior owners were going to move to St. Louis.

When he bought the team they won 7 straight games and went to the playoffs for the first time in 8 years and have been 8-12 years. Did he leverage another state to get his stadium deal? Hmm yes. Does everyone including the skins former owner do that? Yes.

Posted by: Skinz | October 10, 2006 11:29 AM | Report abuse

here it is decide for yourself:

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10B17FA3B5E0C708DDDAB0994D0494D81&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fK%2fKraft%2c%20Robert%20K%2e

he had a deal with hartford, conn.(yankee town). (it's like skins owners signing a lease to move the team to dallas.) and then he broke the deal. hmmmmmmm. good character.

as far as 1-15...you're right (i think). (was probly thinking about the girls) and as far as making the playoffs...skins won the nfc east the first year of snyder. doesn't mean a thing.

bottom line i'll take snyder over kraft, over any of those old fart owners out there any day. be patient and don't be a hater just cuz he's young, rich and corny (bringing tom cruise to the game?)...

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Yeah i hear ya dealer. I will say that he did save that franchise from leaving that area. I think they sold out their first game the day he bought the team too so i think pepes were happy.

Like is said, The Danny isn't all that. I still just don't like the win now atmosphere he brings.

Posted by: Skinz | October 10, 2006 12:26 PM | Report abuse

"Didn't Novak have blocked field goals in consecutive games when he was here?"

He had one blocked against Seattle that wasn't his fault, then he made a partially blocked 53 yarder which was called back by a penalty. This year he nailed a 50 yarder in Chicago.

WE WANT NICK!

Posted by: Lee | October 10, 2006 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Novak will get the job done, but I'm not too worried about the kicker position. Perhaps the lack of a kicking game will give Gibbs incentive to go for it on 4th and 1 with the ball at the opponents 25-40 yardlines. What we need to address is the secondary. We don't have time to wait for Springs. We need to bring in some CB's and safetys that can cover, or it is going to be a long season. Springs will probably end up reinjuring something when he comes back anyway. Those groin injuries never seem to go away. Just ask John Hall.

Posted by: Kicker | October 10, 2006 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Novak fans, and I count myself among them, the biggest problem with our boy is that he has really short kickoffs. Until he can get closer to the goal line on a consistent basis, it's gonna be hard for him to find a permanent home here or anywhere else.

Posted by: Diva | October 10, 2006 1:43 PM | Report abuse

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