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No Go For Portis

Well, Clinton gets his wish - doesn't he always around here? - and won't be going. So he enters Week 1 off of 4 practices and that's it. After saying how Portis could have played the last three preseason games if need be, and playing everything down, the guy ends up missing basically the entire preseason save for like 5 practices. We'll see how that works out. I've said and written for a long time that Betts will play a big role this season, and I have to think he gets the bulk of the carries early on.

Also, Khary Campbell not in uniform (UPDATE: With a hamstring injury)

There is a chance they keep most of the defensive starters out of this thing, also save for Landry, and give a lot of work to the backups. With 3-4 jobs still open on that side of the ball (last CB, last safety, etc), it's a good way to go and the starters showed very well in the 3 previous games (sacks and turnovers aside).

By Jason La Canfora  |  August 30, 2007; 7:14 PM ET
 
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FIRST

Posted by: FIRST | August 30, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

SECOND

Posted by: SECOND | August 30, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Not a hammie!

Posted by: Stumped | August 30, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Damn you!

Posted by: Really wanted to be FIRST! | August 30, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

pre season...we talkin' bout pre season??

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Khary could go IR or it could burst his bubble.

Posted by: Stumped | August 30, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Good news people! I've just come back from the doctors. He said that I'm don't have the dreaded Equine Flu which is ravaging the country at the moment.

Luckily for me, the flu only effects horses. Not those who are hung like horses!

Posted by: kost52 | August 30, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

go cooleyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

Posted by: bethesdaboy | August 30, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

3strdteenth!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Leave CP alone biased dumb-dalkian!

Posted by: ben | August 30, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

peeps! you guys better have a play by play up here. i'm paying .25 cents/minute for this connection.

btw, i got the biggest sinus headache and spent an hour in the airplane's bathroom that wouldn't flush. and it wasn't mine. and i had to smell it!!! EWEEEEEEEEEE! yucky!

any ideas how i can prevent this in the future (sinus pressure cuz of altitude in the plane)?


Posted by: Littery @ milehigh | August 30, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Don't be duped - Portis will get 85% of the carries from the get-go.

Love how Buges just said on CSN that they aren't worried about the running game -- whoops, guess he didn't get the memo from Joe Jackson that they are supposed to say that they are very concerned about it.

Can't wait for Week 1.

Out.

Posted by: CMoney | August 30, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Shoot I'd keep LaRon on the bench too.

Let's face it he's first string and has earned his spot (sorry PP).

Posted by: Stumped | August 30, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

put eye drops in your nose

Posted by: cures sinus | August 30, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

jasno, you must provide a live link to your claims next time. :)

Posted by: littery @ milehigh | August 30, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Cyn Cyty please make when CP blow up you have JLC write that he was wrong. He will be fine.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 7:32 PM | Report abuse

any ideas how i can prevent this in the future (sinus pressure cuz of altitude in the plane)?

Ummm, don't fly? Not terribly convenient but eminently effective!

Posted by: Captain Obvious | August 30, 2007 7:32 PM | Report abuse

What time is kickoff?

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 7:33 PM | Report abuse

How does spending an hour in an airplane bathroom help a sinus headache?

Posted by: mugamack | August 30, 2007 7:33 PM | Report abuse

shoot! dang gone losable type!!!!!!!!!

what kind of eyedrops? saline?

Posted by: littery | August 30, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

littery,

I was wondering where you were. We're still waiting for the start.

I'm plugged into the xxx radio feed at:

http://www.triplexespnradio.com

The best I can do at the moment.

Posted by: Stumped | August 30, 2007 7:35 PM | Report abuse

hey guys-

is this one being broadcast anywhere on the internet?

i've got the audio feed, but i wanted to see if there was video swirling around out there anywhere...

thanks!

Posted by: the deaner | August 30, 2007 7:35 PM | Report abuse

the flight attendant thought it was a good idea to put me in a stinky bathroom and sit with my head between my knees...didn't work...instead felt like puking

Posted by: littery | August 30, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

MNF fires Theismann and now we have to listen to him?

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Skins on d. Jags return kickoff to 16. David Garrard starting.

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

28th!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 28th | August 30, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

the flight attendant thought it was a good idea to put me in a stinky bathroom and sit with my head between my knees...didn't work...instead felt like puking

Just cause a flight attendant leads you somewhere, doesn't mean you should follow her. Although usually it's the right move.

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Litery,

I used to fly a lot. I solved the problem by holding my nose and trying to blow out. It equalized the pressure in the sinuses. It worked for me almost all the time. Good luck

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | August 30, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Great penetration by number 94 on the run

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

joey t rulz....haters please....

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

toefield four-yard loss (can't turn corner); runs it again and gets it to the 15.

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Toefield starting @ RB, rush for -4 to start

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Have I got something wrong with my measuring of time zones? I thought the game was meant to start at 7:30 EST, isn't that like 15 minutes ago?

Posted by: kost52 | August 30, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey what's up with Rocky Cartwright? I haven't seen him all preseason

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

2nd team sounds like they are doing a good job.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Skins at 30; jc on flanker screen to moss. up to the 34.

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Okay, it's started :-D

Posted by: kost52 | August 30, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

That's in the same way that baseball games start at 7:00

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

pointless game..........

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Kost,

My wife and I have two horses and two donkies. I told her your story with a straight face. She became very concerned and then could not stop laughing. Good Job!!!

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | August 30, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Not sure, but when you register for the audio feed at xxx, there is a pop up that trys to sell you TV software (presumably to see the game).

Posted by: Stumped | August 30, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of rock nice carry for 20+ yards up the middle

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Rabach just blocked two dudes. Nice.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like JC is looking good. Cooley is doing well. OK pull them now.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Skins moving ball nicely. Good mix of passes and runs. Cartwright a coupla nice runs.

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Sweet TD catch by Randle El. Time now for JC to come out.

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Touchdown ARE!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 7:47 PM | Report abuse

JC took a hit and complete to the back. Please oh please pull him now.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Check that: time for EVERYONE to come out.

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Start drinking the Kool-Aid now folks!

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Money!

Posted by: CMoney | August 30, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

WHAT! WHAT! In your face JLC!!!!!!! Now pull all the starters.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Soups looking money. Check.

Run game going. Check.

Kendall looks very good in a Hog uniform. Check.

Touchdown. Check.

Check, please!

Posted by: CMoney | August 30, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

can we call the game now?....this is a joke....the nfl really needs to look at this....pathetic

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

The offense looked really good on that drive. Rock had a nice run. JC threw some nice passes. And, the best thing was no Run-Run-Pass.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Man that was without CP in there. I can't wait until next week.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I loves me some HB Blades. That boy is a definite keeper.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Love Trucks with the throw-back Dexter Manley neck support.

Posted by: CMoney | August 30, 2007 7:53 PM | Report abuse

check-that, meant Wilbur Marshall

Posted by: CMoney | August 30, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Sam giving HB a lot of respect. Says the D is playing really fast.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

83,088

Posted by: MV Dame | August 30, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

David Macklin on the corner blitz. Nice sack.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

unfortunately sam than mumbled something about chris hamburger and asked for seconds on cream corn...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Bram just reported that Jansen is having his lower back ice down by the trainers. See this is why I don't care that CP didn't play one snap.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Our 2nd string defense looks better than our first string last year

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Nate Dogg, Cyn Cyty, anyone else who cares:

We got The Boren Penultimatum in the bag!

Posted by: MV Dame | August 30, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

LOL Poor Sam. He's like the senile uncle that you hide in an upstairs bedroom. You love him, but you want to keep him away from people before he says anything embarrassing.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

No worries -- Wade is a better right tackle than Jansen is now.

Posted by: Andrew | August 30, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

CL what are you talking about? That is so not true but you did get a laugh out of me.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

WHEW BRunell playing now... can't believe i said that

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Marcus Mason in now at RB

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I second that, Dante. This is probably the only time I'll ever be relieved to see Brunell on the field.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Mason is a baller. Love that kid.

Posted by: CMoney | August 30, 2007 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Brunell on a bootleg. WOW! Would have love to see that one. LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 8:00 PM | Report abuse

i know jm220 but he did compare blades to chris hamburger earlier...

sam is so done...

rain...great...i am even nervous about injuries to depth...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Who's the guy on offense with the dreads... they are blocking his name... but they are impressive

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else love the Jints back up QB Lorenzen.....i love that dude....to bad a giant...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

#41? His name is Brian Bell.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

CL you just love him because he damn near 285lbs. lol

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Because of the fly-by-night cable company in 21132, I can only "watch" the game on NFL game center. It is one or two plays ahead of XXX. This is the link:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29503&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2007&week=PRE4

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | August 30, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Just got home. How did JC look?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

jm220....agreed...us portlies need to stand tight!!!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

SCSkinsFan,
70 yard drive for a TD. He made it look easy against the 2nd JAX D.

Posted by: Stumped | August 30, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

CL LMGO!!

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Buying my Super Bowl tickets!!! Looking good so far!!! cooleyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

Posted by: bethesdaboy | August 30, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

JC was 5/5, 54 yds, 1 TD.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | August 30, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Stumped.

Just got on NFL gamecenter. 5/5 for 54 yds and a TD. Nice.

HTTR

Fire up the Bandwagon!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm feeling GREAT about the Boren Penultimatum. It IS in the bag.

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Saw what we needed to see. D held up in the first series and Campbell finishes with a perfect QB rating. Shows over ... time to go home.

Posted by: AL | August 30, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Portis' approval rating rivals that of President Bush. His reoccurring knee tendinitis has caused his ADP to plummet from the mid-second to the late-third round (31.3 Y! ADP). But don't be imperceptive. Whispers from Redskins insiders have described the injury as "overblown." More than likely, Gibbs has simply exercised extreme caution to ensure his star back is at or near 100 percent for the start of the season.

Don't be obtuse to Portis' saliva-inducing potential. Still only 25, the flamboyant tugboat is a gifted, tough inside runner who showcases electric acceleration through the hole and on the corners.

Outside of his impressive physical skills, the peripherals for a banner campaign are favorable. The Redskins' acquisition of veteran guard Pete Kendall from the Jets bolsters an already formidable offensive line. Also, Washington has a laughable schedule with 10 games against rushing defenses that ranked well outside the top 10 last year. Finally, throw in Jason Campbell's continued maturation and Al Saunders' explosive ground philosophy and Portis has the foundations to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Sure, Ladell Betts is a must handcuff. And, yes, he'll likely wrestle away 8-12 carries per game and see an expanded role until Portis proves fully operable. But look at the situation positively. Betts will ease Portis' load, which should keep the cursed No. 26 healthy and more productive. If you recall, the Redskins ran the ball 30.6 times per game last season. Even if Betts carried the rock 10 times per game, Portis would finish with 1,351 rushing yards and 14 touchdowns over a 16-game slate based on his 4.1 YPC and 0.87 TD/G averages from last year. Convinced he'll miss time? Using the same averages over 12 games - not including the likely 200-plus receiving yards he could feasibly rack - Portis would finish with 1,013 rushing yards and 10 scores. That's an average of 13.4 PPG, which would've ranked 13th among backs last year.

Heady owners looking to steal Portis for a six-pack of Mickey's must act now. In recent Yahoo! Plus league trades he's commanded thrifty returns, swapped straight up for Carnell Williams, Ahman Green and Hines Ward. For those yet to draft, he's worth the risk in the late second round in 12-team drafts. Fearless Forecast (13 games): 1,118 rushing yards, 10 touchdowns, 24 receptions, 225 receiving yards.

Posted by: Chacer | August 30, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

For those of you outside of the area, try this site to see the game. I've never used any of the streaming sites they list there, and it looks like you'll probably have to download and install software of some type, but at least this gives you something to try for some visuals.


http://streamednfl.blogspot.com/

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Macklin is playing well.

We have an embarassment of riches at DB after the SpeedRumph shabingus

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

A couple of other options for now or future games:

http://www.sportstvlive.us/

http://www.streamtvnow.tv/

I can't speak to how they work, how reliable they are, etc. But, I saw them listed on another site. You can check them out if you wish.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 8:19 PM | Report abuse

alright not listening anymore...let me know any thing important

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Touchdown Brunell

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:35 PM | Report abuse

crickets

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Lisa will be happy =]

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:37 PM | Report abuse

details?

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Brunell 5/6 47 yds 1 TD

14 yd pass to Hoag... "perfect pass" according to Sonny...more Sonny....

"Best the offense has looked all offseason"

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I am going to hate myself for this. CL they just did a add for your croc shoes.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Watch Portis fumble against the fins. We lose. He gets yanked. As he predicted, gone next year.

Posted by: periculum | August 30, 2007 8:43 PM | Report abuse

JM220:SWEET!!!!

peri...wow...ok...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Come on 2nd team Defense stopthem already.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 8:46 PM | Report abuse

don't be perdiculous!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:46 PM | Report abuse

4th and 7....40 yard bomb for the TD =[

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Jaguars are in teh game now

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Pulling out hammer. Double smack to the back of your damn head periculum. What are you basing this off? Have you ever even played a sport?

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

check that...short pass....missed tackle by Westbrook..safeties in on a blitz

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Cue the lightning. Everybody go home.

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

"Westbrook missed badly" on that play....not going to help his chances

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

LBP is in the game

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 8:51 PM | Report abuse

SH!T

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Cowgirls just gave up a touchdown....somewhere a unicorn just got its wings.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I am feeling really good about next week.

CL did you see your boy from the G Men run down field and throw a block?

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 8:56 PM | Report abuse

no...wife home...she is watching some horrendously bad movie.....heather locklear...hillary duff...wow

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 30, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Wish that I could bear witness, visually, to our productive QB output, tonight.

I will need to settle for Raiders/Seahawks, which is coming on in a few minutes out here in the Pac NW.

Hail!

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 30, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I think there were three standout players among the question marks. First was Marcus Mason. He was running against a scrub defense, but what I liked about him was his ability to make a bunch of cutbacks to hit holes. I think he will at least make the practice squad, especially with Portis health questions. Second was Ryan Hoag. He had nice footwork when he made the catch in the end zone. But what I really liked about him was when Mason had one of his good runs, it was Hoag that was blocking several yards downfield. That's the sign of a player that wants to make the team. After blocking his man out of the picture, Hoag turned around and started blocking someone else. It was great work. I had no idea who that #18 was, so after that play I came back and found it was Hoag. The third player was LB Anthony Trucks. Always seemed to be around the ball. He actually made a good pass defense downfield like a CB. Grilliams likes those LBs that are quick enough to cover downfield. Overall, I'm pretty happy after the first half.

Posted by: midniterc | August 30, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

should have dealt portis and bloyd to oakland for randy moss...that would have earned gibbs a 4th trophy

Posted by: jon | August 30, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

bah...jacksonville TD...after a Frost shank...

Sam..."Looks like Frost kicked that with his knee."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

just got home from football [ractice with my son, what is score, how we doin, reading thru, looks like we doin good, can't get any updates here in CT

Posted by: connskins | August 30, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

All you CP haters. What are you doing to do when he start balling like before? Some of you are such fair weather fans. You guys will be the same one praising him

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

connskins....redskins Offense looked good...

J. Campbell 5/5 54 1
M. Brunell 5/6 47 1


Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Palmer is really stinking it up.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

He was instructed to do so to minimize the risk he gets plucked off the PS

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Only Fag* like strahan say balling! Everybody made fun of the Giants D and they stoped real fast!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Redskins 1st string offense should look good against 3rd stringers!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Love Whole Foods! @ what other supermarket could I score a date with one of the employees? @ what other supermarket would I even want to?

Smarter than dating a bartender, JM, Diddy?

Over-the-moon off-topic, I know, but come on, it's the second half of preseason game 4 in a 12-4 season!

HAIL

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

nobody from jags 1st string d started!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Please help me to understand who Palmer thought he saw. LOL That kid is terrible. I can't imagine that Bramlet was worse than this.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Did I just say 12-4? Did somebody ether me?

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Palmer picked....returned for a TD.....dreadful start for LBP...fumble, interception, delay of game, etc.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

RMilot LMGO

Man LBP seems to really sucks.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Sam said LBP just played his way off the team. LOL Even suggested that he might want to go to Canada. LOL

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

RMilot....mission accomplished.

So, Bramlet to ATL was a mistake?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Justme I was LMGO about that statement as well.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

What happened to Eubanks? I had the TV off while I was putting the brat in bed. I came back in time to see LBP throw that horrible interception, but I didn't see why they were carting Eubanks off.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

It appears the gaping chasm between BBM and LBM pales by comparison to that between BBP and LBP

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I guess, given their relative draft position, this comes as no great surprise

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Rmilot after a KEG of KOOLAIDE I agree, 12-4 but when it wheres off and reality settles in its 4-12!

Posted by: Keep koolaide coming | August 30, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

keep dolla bill happy and healthy I dont care if he didnt touch the ball in the pre-season.

JC looked good, 5 for 5 54 and a TD! I'll take it, esp since I was worried about his knee even if it was just a bruise.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | August 30, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

LBP stinks out loud. I'm usually one for not being too harsh on the kids, but I can't, for the life of me, understand why they wasted a draft pick on this boy.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Bram just mentioned Eubanks had a "hamstring injury."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

JustMe

Bram just said he has a hamstring pull.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Thanks guys.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

got to agree with jm220... people will eat some crow in regards to Portis this year... at least I hope so, I drafted him in the 2nd round for fantasy football.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | August 30, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Bram said he spoke with JC after halftime. The knee feels great.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

jm220 I hope because somebody made fun of you saying Balling your going to stop?

Posted by: redskinfan666 | August 30, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

JustMe, not actually having looked at the answer, who else was taken around him?

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Chatting with Jon Wile, who does layout for us. He caught the latest epi of "Hard Knocks" last night...the one that features Rod Gardner getting cut. Sounds like must-see viewing....

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

redskinfan666 trust me he will have a big season. People (most who never played the game) are making way too much over this. He will be really sore come Monday and Tuesday but other than that. There really is nothing to worry about.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

jm
did you play in college or anything?
serious question...

Posted by: RBD202 | August 30, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

got to agree with jm220... people will eat some crow in regards to Portis this year... at least I hope so, I drafted him in the 2nd round for fantasy football.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | August 30, 2007 09:39 PM

Well, Ini, if you took CP in round 2, I assume you went either RB or top-notch QB in the first. Either way, that's a great value pick.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

RBD202

I played from little league all the way through high school. Went to college on a track scholarship.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

jm220 that doesnt anwser the saying BALLING and somebody made fun by puting down gmen for saying it last yr? Which was Gay!

Posted by: redskinfan666 | August 30, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I played a ton of Madden Football in college.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

RMilot,

A bunch of other dudes I know nothing about. LOL I thought I remembered them looking at that TE Ben Patrick, though, who was taken 10 picks after Palmer (and just before the Skins selected Tyler Ecker). Maybe they should have taken him with the LBP pick.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

nice
was trying to think of a jm that played
john matuszak...
got nothing

Posted by: RBD202 | August 30, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

redskinfan666

ITA.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

joe morris - is that you?

Posted by: RBD202 | August 30, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Then again, let me see if Patrick is even still on the roster of the team who picked him. LOL

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, JM. You're the coolest dude on this blog, but this notion that one has to have played football to hold a valid opinion on it is wrong, jockocratic and narrow-minded; I think you're better than that.

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Jacksonville's scrubs are taking the 'Skins scrubs behind the woodshed.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

duhhh joe montana
welcome to RI

Posted by: RBD202 | August 30, 2007 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Sam just said the 10 o clock news will be coming shortly and that came out of no where. LMGO You got to love Sam

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, JM. You're the coolest dude on this blog, but this notion that one has to have played football to hold a valid opinion on it is wrong, jockocratic and narrow-minded; I think you're better than that.

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 09:50 PM

We never played a down of football but I bet we know more than anyone on this blog.

Posted by: Mel Kiper and John Clayton | August 30, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

RMilot if you played then you would know you can go without playing in the games. It's not like CP forgot how to run. So, it's really silly for people to sit and say he is done because he didn't play in pre season.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Let's compare ....

Jacksonville...Q. Gray 14/19 147 2 0
Washington ....J. Palmer 2/7 10 0 1

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

It's not missing the games that worries me. I'm talkin' bout . . . practice

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Nice pull Inigo. I grabbed Peyton first, and picked up CP early 3rd round. Nothing but laughter in the draft room.

I point to their schedule, half the teams had bottom tier ranked run defenses last year, so nice value pick? I like.

I am with you and old school baller jm220, CP is gonna light it up this year, it just feels right.

Posted by: k Squared | August 30, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

wow, nfl network, i think actually just complemented the skins, i will have to listen again

Posted by: connskins | August 30, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

wow, our back-up back-ups really, really suck

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 30, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Yeah....Collins and Brunell are old...we need to find a decent #2 QB soon.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Portis gets ~20 touches in Week One. Book it.

Posted by: Wes Mantooth | August 30, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

RMilot he has practice. Remember practice is closed to reporters now. (go back a couple of post and read JLC words yourself) And the limit access that JLC did have he said CP was out there doing drills.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Sure 'Palmer the #3' was dumb before this game, now it is just plain assinine. Collins getting no action. Huh?

QBs

1. JC
2a #8
2b Collins

Pratice squad Palmer

Posted by: bangkokben | August 30, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Wes....here's a question for you.

Does CP break 100 yards? What's CP's over/under?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Has anybody seen rookie DE Justin Hickman do anything this preseason? He had nice stats at UCLA and I remember reading that his college coaches thought he had a chance to catch on.

Posted by: Jafra | August 30, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Man this game is taking forever to end.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Joe T just informed us he had small hands and still does.

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Nah, I'd say under 100, especially against the Dolphins D. But we'll see. I'll put the o/u for CP at 80 total yards. Betts will get his.

Posted by: Wes Mantooth | August 30, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

This little twerp in the Geico commercial -- JM, would you please apply your hand to the back of his head?

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Does CP break 100 yards? What's CP's over/under?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:01 PM

86 on 22 runs. Bank it. Ladell with 40 on 5 runs. RB controversy...

Posted by: Periculated | August 30, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Okay, only 3 NFLteams have had two backs with 1,000 yards...is this the year??

1972 Miami Dolphins
Larry Csonka - 1,117 yards on 213 carries
Mercury Morris - 1,000 yards on 190 carries

1976 Pittsburgh Steelers
Franco Harris - 1,128 yards on 289 carries
Rocky Bleier - 1,036 yards on 220 carries

1985 Cleveland Browns
Kevin Mack - 1,104 yards on 222 carries
Earnest Byner - 1,002 yards on 244 carries

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Kinda nice when the sound keeps going out. Only way to shut up Joey T

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I played a couple of seasons down here! I was a Tight End. So Joe, if Yoder and Edwards don't work out, gimme a call! Hahaha

Although as you can imagine, it wasn't the highest quality.

Posted by: kost52 | August 30, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

JC just said he feel good about the O. That they are ahead of where they were this time last pre season.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

God, Chris Hansen. The guy saves our children from internet predators, then gets signed to the Pats. What a roll!

Patriots sign punter Hanson, release Baugher


Aug. 30, 2007
CBSSports.com wire reports

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- The New England Patriots have signed veteran punter Chris Hanson and released first-year punter Danny Baugher.

The 30-year-old Hanson has 428 punts for 18,347 yards with the Green Bay Packers and the Jacksonville Jaguars. He has averaged 42.9 yards per punt.

He was released earlier this week by the New Orleans Saints.

The 22-year-old Baugher was signed to the Patriots' practice squad in October, then assigned to NFL Europa after the season.

Posted by: Choo Choo | August 30, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Holy dang! Is that the time? Alright, blog buddies. See y'all in the ayem.

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

It's going to be so sweet when Uncle Al finally cuts the offense loose in Week One. Remember in Rocky IV, when Drago's fighting Creed, and in the early rounds Drago is stumbling around the ring like an uncoordinated oaf? James Brown is singing, everybody's happy, America rules. Then Drago's trainer screams something in Russian and Drago transforms instantly into a killing machine? Yeah. Uncle Al's practicing his Russian, and the hammer drops September 9. Be afraid, NFL.

Posted by: Wes Mantooth | August 30, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow does BBP suck. Brunell and Collins aren't going anywhere. I don't care who is #2 or #3 between them, as long as it's not the rookie.

Marcus Mason and Ryan Hoag...good chances to stick around.

That's all I got.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 30, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

You know, I'm not even sure what is it, but I'M LOVING KOOL AID!!!!!

Posted by: kost52 | August 30, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Coach just said thank goodness that pre season is over. He was ready for it to be over by half time.

Posted by: jm220 | August 30, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow does BBP suck. Brunell and Collins aren't going anywhere. I don't care who is #2 or #3 between them, as long as it's not the rookie.

Marcus Mason and Ryan Hoag...good chances to stick around.

That's all I got.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 30, 2007 10:19 PM

BBP din't look so bad this week. LBP on the other hand, er...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

4-12,

I agree.... earlier I said that I would rather take Palmer over Brunell, but boy do I take that back now. I know MB will probably never see the field this year, but Palmer was atrocious.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 30, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

BBP= Baby Brother Palmer

Posted by: 4-12 | August 30, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

BBP looked like dung. No way that dude is related to Carson. I'd take Jesse Palmer over that lummix Jordache.

Posted by: k Squared | August 30, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

now that bbp is out
who is the #2?
I vote for Collins but JG might still want MB

Posted by: RBD202 | August 30, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Yeah RB- That was rough. Wife was in the room when he threw the INT...looks at me and says "who was he throwing that to?".

Posted by: 4-12 | August 30, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Best Palmer: President David Palmer (RIP)

Posted by: Wes Mantooth | August 30, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Wes, best Palmer is Arnold Palmer. Dennis Haysbert is an awesome actor though.

Posted by: k Squared | August 30, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Kost- I did many seconds of research earlier today for the fantasy football draft. To save you and your mates the hassle...don't bother drafting: Peyton Manning, LT, Steven Jackson, or Larry Johnson in the 1st 4 rounds. They're worthless. Won't help your team at all. No point wasting a pick on any of them. No sir. Hope that helps your planning!

Posted by: 4-12 | August 30, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Bethesdaboys's favorite high school girlfriend:

Rosy Palmer

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Well, I'm glad the pre-season is completed.
Up 14-3 I was feeling pretty good about tonight, but then the bottom seemed to fall out... goodness, those last two quarters were ugly.

but my main concern was answered positively.
I did not want JC in there long, nor CP in there at all.

I really liked the first team D not in there at all. GW probably said "My starters are set; I know what I want and got. Let's rest them and play all reserves and make evaluation for the last 3 or 4 roster spots on D.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | August 30, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Why have the Skins' second/third teamers and free agent players performed so poorly over the past 3 years?

That, to me, is a troubling sign. They appear to be poorly coached and prepared.

Granted, 95% of them will be cut. But that 5% can, for some teams, be an important part of a team.

And the Skins just aren't getting that 5% help.

Posted by: SteveMG | August 30, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Pretty pathetic performance by the 4th string QB. Obviously the season is lost after a 31-14 drubbing by a mediocre Jville team. There's always next year......

Posted by: Fredskins | August 30, 2007 10:38 PM | Report abuse

just considering how badly I felt after last year's pre-seaon.
Now compare it to this year.
At least I know we will be competitive again as opposed to last year.

Heads up everyone, things are looking much better than last year.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | August 30, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

brunell to get traded to seattle
on channel 9

Posted by: RBD202 | August 30, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

jm220 ate a candy bar in 1998!!!!

Posted by: 4-12 | August 30, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Brunell is in the process of being traded to Seattle for a draft pick. Should be in a day or two. He will be their #2 QB, replacing Senneca Wallace, who is moving to TE.

Posted by: Midniterc | August 30, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Channel 9 reporting that Skins are in process of trading Brunnell to Seattle for a draft pick! LBP as 3rd string?????

Posted by: LaRon | August 30, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

brett habers source
brunell did not deny

Posted by: RBD202 | August 30, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Okay, did anyone hear something on Channel 9 about Brunell going to the Seahawks???

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Brunell to Seatlle

Posted by: 4th | August 30, 2007 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow... So, are they going to go with 2 QBs on the roster? Or, will they pick up a 3rd string guy from somewhere, as it CANNOT be LBP?

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Will Day Late Canfora get this info to us tonight?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

My prediction was half right.

I correctly predicted Brunell was going to be traded. Just wrong team. I still take credit...

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 30, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Did they disclose which round the draft pick is?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

late round

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

It is a WUSA exclusive JLaC dosen't know about it yet....

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 30, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

"All you CP haters. What are you doing to do when he start balling like before? Some of you are such fair weather fans. You guys will be the same one praising him"

If he does, and he may, he will screw up fumble drop passes etc first. Just like Jordan Palmer with his very first action ... again
Portis is NOT LaDamian Tomlinson. NOT, NOT, NOT. He is not a Larry Brown, he is not a Riggins he is not a Byner. He needs these preseason games to tune up and get in synch with his offense. Without that he becomes a huge risk.

Posted by: periculum | August 30, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Wow... HB Blades in the suit for the post game interview. I love this dude.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Deal is not yet done. Will be done in a few days....

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 30, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

They said the Brunell deal is not done, but should be within the next couple of days.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

CHANNEL 9 JUST SAID BRUNELL TRADED TO SEATTLE

Posted by: Uncle Spence | August 30, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Stop with Larry Brown stuff. Larry Brown is no Clinto Portis! He had a few great seasons, like Terrel Davis but is no where near the top ten Redskins! Be his fan but stop making CP out to be some chump because he missed preseason. The dude doesn't fumble.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 30, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Collins cleary beat out Brunello for #2 veteran backup status, so getting a late round draft pick for Brunell is prudent...but the problem is the #3 looked really bad tonight... possibly have to burn another draft pick next year on QB

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

They must have drugged and tied up Gibbs to make that trade. I like it. Something for nothing.

Posted by: R. Bobby Hater | August 30, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

after tonight, trading brunell might not be the smartest thing...

Posted by: Uncle Spence | August 30, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

We actually RECEIVED a draft pick for a has been third string q-back? Can't be true....

Posted by: Fredskins | August 30, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

I am curious to see how JLC spins the Brunell trade into another FO shabingus

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

More goood news. Getting rid of that weak t*t arm Brunell AND picking up a draft pick ...Shrewd move.

Posted by: k Squared | August 30, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know what the cap implications would be if Brunell is shipped off? More $$ for Cooley?

Posted by: LaRon | August 30, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

I personally believe the U.S. Americans do not support Mark Brunell because some people out there in our nation don't have Mark Brunell and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and the Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe they should our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Africa or should help the Iraq and Asian countries so we will be able to build up our Mark Brunell for us.

Posted by: Miss Teen South Carolina | August 30, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Trading Brunell would be a stupid move - after Collins we have NOBODY! Poor Palmer just ain't ready....

Posted by: Lisa | August 30, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Jeff George would be available if it came to a choice of him or LBP

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - half the teams in the league only keep 2 QBs on the 53 man roster

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 30, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

"Why have the Skins' second/third teamers and free agent players performed so poorly over the past 3 years?
That, to me, is a troubling sign. They appear to be poorly coached and prepared.
Granted, 95% of them will be cut. But that 5% can, for some teams, be an important part of a team.
And the Skins just aren't getting that 5% help."

I'll take the glass-half-full stance here. NO they are actually performing much, much better this year. We note that one of the TDs was by baby Palmer and not the defense. Baby Palmer also helped put them in bad field position. It was all okay truth be told.

Now the coaches know what they have absorbed and what they still need to work on with the youngsters. They also know they have vets like Cornelius Griffin, Philip Daniels, Randall Godfrey,
London Fletcher, and Shawn Springs to help them get there from here. The Redskins defenses of the past have always thrived on the right mixture of youth and veteran experience to be effective. Its the same now, and there will be much better added depth.

On the offense. They now have an inkling of where the line is with its new configuration. Heyer continues to improve. Now it comes down to the subs. Who will end up backing up the starters? At wide receiver it looks like Ryan Hoag made a statement to pull away from the pack. Maybe that was enough?

At running back they've had a good look at Marcus Mason.

At quarterback it looks Brunell proves to be the better man despite the agile brain of Todd Collins. Did Jordan Palmer show
enough to be kept around? He threw a lot of int's in college too.

At tight end we saw some new guys in there.

So now its up to the coaches to look at what they've got versus what they might find on the waiver wire.

Posted by: periculum | August 30, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

I am watching the Raiders/Seahawks game right now and Seneca Wallace is at QB. They also haven't mentioned the trade yet, but I certainly can see why they would want to get him involved with the offense more, as he will probably be a great TE.

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 30, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Lisa,

If Campbell AND Collins go down...well, let's not go down that road.

I shudder everytime I think of the "Body Bag" game.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Let's be honest, any team that gets down to their 3rd string qb is not going anywhere anyway. Getting back a pick for one you just gave up to get a better player (Kendall), who will start, is a must.

Posted by: k Squared | August 30, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

It's really strange to me that Sportsnet has mentioned nothing about the Brunell trade rumor - since they are practically in bed with the Skins....but maybe that is why.

Posted by: Lisa | August 30, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Brunell to Seattle? We need recon, JLC!

Posted by: Bryan | August 30, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Can we keep Marcus Mason? That dude can play.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Miss South Caribbean...we should all believe in the fourth string forward to help eliminate racial geographing. That would make not voting that much easier.

Posted by: Fredskins | August 30, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Brunell to Seattle, No way? Unless it its a 3-way with Atlanta.

Posted by: periculum | August 30, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Palmer was terrible, but the good news is that it's been years since we've ever had to use a third QB. Even under a worst case scenario and both Campbell and Collins gets hurt, we can still go with Randel El before Palmer.

Posted by: Midniterc | August 30, 2007 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Can we keep Marcus Mason? That dude can play.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 11:02 PM


He had a much better showing than dee brown. My guess is mason is kept around as the 4th rb

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Midniterc...good point about ARE at 3rd...'Skins should only carry 2 QBs and open up a roster spot.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

brunell trade story on channel 9 website

http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=62301

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

on 2nd thought...
why panic, we do have Randle El, he could play in an emergency

Posted by: Uncle Spence | August 30, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

So now Bram Weinstein says that Joe Gibbs has firmly and flatly denied that the Brunell trade is on. JLC, where are you?

Posted by: LaRon | August 30, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Brunell to Seatle makes sense for the Seahawks. They have no one behind Hassleback, he's a local guy (UW) and they have a good chance at the post season.

Atlanta makes no sense, have two journeymen and no expectations. Coach can get a pass for this year and his guy (the guy from Louisville) next year.

Peri, admit it. You are out of you mind.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 30, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Ditto the ARE comments. Jasno really needs a blackberry so he can make sure to keep us in the know 24/7 no way RI should ever get scooped by channel 9.

Posted by: Dante | August 30, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

A dark day in Redskins history...

The Body Bag Game (November 12, 1990, Washington Redskins vs. Philadelphia Eagles, Monday Night Football)
In the days leading to the clash, Eagles head coach Buddy Ryan threatened a beating so severe that "they'll have to be carted off in body bags." Ryan's words were prophetic. The Eagles defense scored three touchdowns in a 28-14 win and knocked nine Redskins out of the game, including two quarterbacks. The Redskins finished with running back-returner Brian Mitchell playing quarterback.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm I wonder? I wonder if the Danny pulled the rug out from under Gibbs the way he has so often done with all of his past coaches.

Breaking news from Channel 9 Sports: Gibbs resigns.

Posted by: periculum | August 30, 2007 11:09 PM | Report abuse

I still don't get why they cut Bramlet so early. He didn't count against the roster since he was Europa and he can't have been all that expensive. Given that Palmer has always been considered a project and Bramlet had experience, I'm really surprised. Wonder if there is a story somewhere there. He seemed to catch on quickly enough down in Atlanta...

Posted by: NewMexSkin | August 30, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

If you think Gibbs was pissed at Jason ... just wait and see what he will do to Channel 9!?

Posted by: periculum | August 30, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs denied the trade. But, he denies everything. So, we'll see where this goes over the next few days.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

"I still don't get why they cut Bramlet so early. He didn't count against the roster since he was Europa and he can't have been all that expensive."

Wanted to give him a chance to catch on play somewhere. He clearly wasn't in their plans.

Posted by: periculum | August 30, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Peri, I agree that more sources need to confirm this thing. However, when reality stares you in the face, you don't blink.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 30, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't knwo what is worst, the nfl preaseason or these top teams playing these joke of a games in college football tonight

Posted by: Uncle Spence | August 30, 2007 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm inclined to side with Haber here. Haber scooped everybody big time on the Lerners getting the Nats. Dude has sources and he puts it out there.

Posted by: Wes Mantooth | August 30, 2007 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Uncle Spence...who says the NCAA doesn't have preseason games?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

I'll give u that when louisville had 70 8 min into the 3rd quarter

Posted by: Uncle Spence | August 30, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

I actually think there may be something to the trade rumor. While Sportsnet has not mentioned anything about it in the Post Game Show (and they are on top of everything Skins) they were talking about cuts and mentioned "will the Skins keep 3 QBs?" Will Mark Brunell still be here? Which leads me to believe they know something but have been asked to keep quiet by the Skins. Gibbs would never trade Brunell away unless Brunell wanted to go...and Seattle is where Brunell is from and would want to go.

Posted by: Lisa | August 30, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Wha' happened??

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 30, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

the skins don't own comcast by the way
they probably just haven't confirmed it and are waiting to do so
but chick did refer to "whether brunell would be here or not"

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Well, on Channel 9 they did say Brunell was aware of the move and that he was happy about it. They mentioned him going to college in Washington, of course, and that he still had lots of family there. Plus, there would be no competition there for him if Matt Hasselbeck was injured. Seneca Wallace is a good athlete, but not such a good QB.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

WHERE IS JLC??

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

getting scooped by every other media outlet

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Anybody say 6th yet?

Posted by: 6th!!!!!!! | August 30, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

""I still don't get why they cut Bramlet so early. He didn't count against the roster since he was Europa and he can't have been all that expensive."

Wanted to give him a chance to catch on play somewhere. He clearly wasn't in their plans."

Nice to know that they're a charity and not a football team.

Posted by: Sharon/Bklyn | August 30, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

NOT BREAKING NEWS
There is no trade in the works involving Brunell. Earlier in the day there was an inquiry by the Seahawks. Sources close to Brunell said the veteran had been told nothing about a trade being completed, or even close, after the game. Collins has outplayed him this preseason, but the other option for a third quarterback -- rookie Jordan Palmer -- is nowhere close to being ready for the NFL and went 2-for-8 for 10 yards with an interception (returned for a touchdown) and a rating of 0.0 in more than a half of work.

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

As for the anonymous person who wonders where Jason is...he's working the locker room, refiling his story and making some calls.

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Bramlet was cut because not only was he 'not in their plans,' but because they had FIVE QBs. You can't keep a guy on the roster to just stand around in practice.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 30, 2007 11:37 PM | Report abuse

A quick thanks to those who blogged the important first quarter plays - I just got home and ran through the comments and don't even need to read a recap.

As for Brunell, still just a rumor, so Jasno won't give us any firm info. PFT, unreliable as they are, isn't even reporting the rumor yet.

I'm still wondering about that flight attendant who stuck Littery in an airplane toilet for an hour. How bad would that headache have to be for you to stay in there?

Posted by: mugamack | August 30, 2007 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I said this earlier today -- about eight threads back, I think -- but the dropoff from Campbell to anybody, anybody, is so severe that I think it hardly matters who the #2 and #3 QBs are. Just like the Colts and a handful of other teams, our eggs are in one basket.

Here's hoping Soup stays upright. Man, do we need him.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 30, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Seattle is a bit out of left field isn't it. But seriously, if the Seahawks plan is to get an athletic guy like Seneca Wallace into the game more, (which makes sense)don't you think it would've been a good idea to start putting that process into place during the start of the pre-season? It's not like they didn't know how good he was, didn't they use him as a WR against us in the playoffs more than a year ago??

Posted by: kost52 | August 30, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Actually, refiling two stories.
:)

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

I love littery/dealer like my crazy cousin who makes me kind of nervous at family reunions. But I can totally, totally see a flight attendant suggesting he take a seat in the loo for the duration of the flight.

Guessing there wasn't an air marshal on board who could take him down with a tranquilizer dart.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 30, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Aha!

Mike Holmgren, formerly known as a genius, sees the utterly brilliant magic that Gibbs, formerly known as a genius, and Saunders, known more recently than either of them as a genius, have cooked up with ARE! And he wants a piece of that!

Seneca Wallace is his ARE, the 'good' Hasselback is his Soup, and now Brunell can be his Todd Collins!

Or something!

It's all making sense!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 30, 2007 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Totally awesome beer award... and this is saying something a night after that incredible cask-conditioned ale we quaffed at the final ODA...

Haymaker Extra Pale Ale, from Portland's Bridgeport Brewing Co.

Twelve ounces of pure delight.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 30, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm heading out...On to 88,888!

Posted by: Cindy | August 30, 2007 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see how Kendall played on that first series?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

SCSkinsfan, Buges said tonight (before the game) that he is "elated" they got Kendall. Said he is a student of the game and has a great work ethic.

Posted by: Lisa | August 30, 2007 11:53 PM | Report abuse

rotoworld.com

Redskins deny Brunell trade report

Despite a WUSA-9 report in Washington,there is no deal in place to trade Mark Brunell to the Seahawks.

The station said the move was in motion, but we've confirmed there is no deal at this point. The Seahawks reportedly started the talks, and a trade could still happen by Saturday. Aug. 30 - 10:55 pm et

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, you just got mentioned on Sportsnet....

Posted by: Lisa | August 30, 2007 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, what was the Cindy reference?

Posted by: mugamack | August 31, 2007 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I came close to giving my first Thumbs Down last night! It was called Blowhard Pale, was a very different taste, my g/f said it was very sweet. Only just passed. Maybe I should be giving them a grade out of 10.

Posted by: kost52 | August 31, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Just watched the game highlights on Sportscenter. A thing of beauty. They just showed Campbell going 5 for 5. All 5 passes. No other plays from the game. Just an "oh, yeah, they got beat, but so what, Jason Campbell went 17 for 27 in the preseason." The end.

Jags fans won't be happy, but the Skins starting offense looked like a force. Now i'm rooting for a Top 10 for the ARE pass.

Posted by: mugamack | August 31, 2007 12:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure this has been discussed already up here, but I have to talk about the ESPN Monday Night Football ad.

Hearing that music as they show a shot of Landry and Samuels getting ready to run out of the tunnel out on to the field gets the blood pumping.

But where did they get that shot from?

Posted by: mugamack | August 31, 2007 12:18 AM | Report abuse

5 for 5 for six. Anyone else think Soup might not be ready? Doesn't mean he won't have some bad games, but did you see the 3 step drop and the touch he had to lay that ball right in ARE's hands? Man oh man, this man can play.

Posted by: Willie | August 31, 2007 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Marcus Mason reminds me of Emmitt Smith. Great feet. Great eyes. Does he have to pass thru waivers before being put on a practice squad? If so, I'd worry that someone's going to claim him.

Posted by: patrickhenry | August 31, 2007 12:34 AM | Report abuse

#26 will carry this offense again in '07 like he did in '05, in my very humble opinion.
Clinton Portis is a MAN.

Posted by: Willie | August 31, 2007 12:43 AM | Report abuse

As ARE said after the game, Soup just put the ball up there - ARE went in got it.

That pass was actually pretty dangerous.

Did Pretty Boy play tonight?

Posted by: mugamack | August 31, 2007 12:50 AM | Report abuse

So at the end of the Seahawks/Raiders game, they interviewed Seneca Wallace since he played a majority of the game.

And the final question, from Warren Moon, who does the broadcasts with the local network, asked Seneca if he would love to play a position other then QB. The smile that spread across Seneca's face was more then a simple: "Sure-I'll-play-anywhere" look. It looked like he knew something more and the tone in Warren's voice seemed like he knew something more too...

Just saying...

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 31, 2007 1:18 AM | Report abuse

NFL Live. Trey Wingo, Eric Allen, Sean Salisbury. Redskins/Jaguars highlights.

Trey: "Alright, here we go, Redskins at Jaguars, Jason Campbell starting at quarterback"

Sean: "Yeah, he was hurt, but NOBODY puts Baby in the corner, Trey"

Trey: "Well, I didn't know his nickname was Baby!"

Sean: (hearty laughter at his own cleverness)

Posted by: mugamack | August 31, 2007 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Trey: "Screen pass to Santana Moss, gain of 4, next play, after a false start, Chris 'Cooley High' with the reception for a gain of 8 - see what I did there?"

Sean: "Niiiiiice, Trey!"

Posted by: mugamack | August 31, 2007 1:32 AM | Report abuse

Alright, looks like I will need to do my part to get this post over the 300 mark...

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 31, 2007 1:32 AM | Report abuse

Sean: "I think Jason Campbell's got a chance to be a star in this league."

Eric: "You know what? I like what he's doing right now."

Trey: "Well, you find Cooley, that's going to help ya... And then, second and 7, Campbell avoids the pressure..."

Sean: "Niiiiice!"

Trey: "...out to fullback Mark [sic] Sellers, and a - FIRST DOWN!"

Posted by: mugamack | August 31, 2007 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Trey: "Ninth play of the drive, Campbell... 24 yard touchdown..."

Sean: "Nice brurrh!"

Trey: "...ANTWAN RANDLE EL!!!"

Eric: "Nice call!"

Sean: "That's good"

Trey: "In his only series, Campbell perfect, 5-for-5, meaning..."

Sean: "Get him out!"

Trey: (muttering) Jags win.

Posted by: mugamack | August 31, 2007 1:36 AM | Report abuse

They gave the jags no love. It was pretty funny.

Posted by: JustMe | August 31, 2007 1:38 AM | Report abuse

No Jags dap in SportsCenter or NFL Live. Some guy named Gray goes 17 for 22 with 2 TDs and they don't even mention his name.

Ouch.

Posted by: mugamack | August 31, 2007 1:44 AM | Report abuse

So does that mean the theory saying ESPN puts Redskins on the wrong side of players' highlights is a myth?

I think I worded that terribly!

Posted by: kost52 | August 31, 2007 1:59 AM | Report abuse

so where can i see the first series? my beloved forgot to push record...

Posted by: littery | August 31, 2007 2:02 AM | Report abuse

didn't i call (for) it? btw...the first drive? 14-2! c'mon c'mon *said like marky mark*

mark, thanks! i totally forgot because i thought it was a headache...and treated it as such since i'm prone to migraines. and it was my second transcontinental flight in 24 hours...so i was very confused. confused enough to be sitting in that loo with...

Posted by: littery | August 31, 2007 2:08 AM | Report abuse

I'm still wondering about that flight attendant who stuck Littery in an airplane toilet for an hour. How bad would that headache have to be for you to stay in there?
_____________________________

How do we know he was alone?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 3:14 AM | Report abuse

NEVER MIND: Adding intrigue to injury in the first half was an erroneous report by a Washington, D.C., TV station that said the Seahawks had completed a trade for veteran quarterback Mark Brunell, the former Washington Husky.

A Seahawks spokesman denied that a deal had been made and the TV station later retracted its own report. (Seattle P-I)

Posted by: The Crickets | August 31, 2007 3:14 AM | Report abuse

Harumph. I was watching the Haber interview Brunell after the game, at work, with the sound on mute, but I thought I read Brunell's lips to say something about "I've been proud to wear this uniform" as he tugged on the front of his jersey. Thought that meant it was curtains or crickets.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 3:17 AM | Report abuse

So much for that Chevy promo over at redskins.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?seriesId=2&id=2998134

Posted by: The Crickets | August 31, 2007 3:18 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it's a trade involving TIM Hasslebeck.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 3:22 AM | Report abuse

WUSATV9.com still has the story up:

http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=62301

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 3:23 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: The Crickets | August 31, 2007 3:24 AM | Report abuse

QUOTE TO NOTE: "Clinton's got a lot of comical stuff, but sometimes I wish he wasn't the comic." -- Coach Joe Gibbs, who like everyone else is never quite sure what to make of RB Clinton Portis.

Posted by: The Crickets | August 31, 2007 3:38 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: The Crickets | August 31, 2007 4:34 AM | Report abuse

Luckily for me, the flu only effects horses. Not those who are hung like horses!

Posted by: kost52 | August 30, 2007 07:26 PM

Kost,

I'm shocked to read that they still hang horses in Australia. We outlawed that practice in 1956. Now, it's lethal injections. What a barabric country. You should emigrate.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 5:17 AM | Report abuse

I said this earlier today -- about eight threads back, I think -- but the dropoff from Campbell to anybody, anybody, is so severe that I think it hardly matters who the #2 and #3 QBs are. Just like the Colts and a handful of other teams, our eggs are in one basket.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 30, 2007 11:39 PM

Nate,

Tell it like it is, Reverend Nate. Amen.

They could trade Brunell AND Collins and it wouldn't affect where the team ends up (provided they make Randle El the #2). It's a big drop off after Campbell, but partly that's because Campbell's so good. There's no dropoff from Brunell to Collins or Collins to Brunell.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 5:27 AM | Report abuse

jm220

ITA

Posted by: Wannabe | August 31, 2007 7:31 AM | Report abuse

I think it's hilarious that people were calling for JLC's head last night for not posting on the blog 30 minutes after the game... ARE YOU SERIOUS?

30 minutes, heck 90 minutes, after the game, the dude is still in the locker room, talking to players or writing his article for the morning paper, etc. This blog is probably #43 on his list of priorities, yet he and Cindy still make it a point to give us "insider" news on a pretty regular basis.

Give the guy a break. PLEASE!

As far as Brunell goes, I'm 50/50 on a trade. 99% of the time a team never makes it to their 3rd string QB during a given season, plus we have BBP/Randle-El as emergency QB's. On the flip side, I'd be interested to see the pick Seattle is offering us, as well as the cap ramifications of a trade. I know that is not going to pretty.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 31, 2007 7:51 AM | Report abuse

I know, I know, easy for me to be an armchair GM and all, but cap space be damned!

I'd sweeten the deal by sending the Shehawks our third round pick in '08, two ham sandwiches AND a maple bar, if that's what it took to get Brunell into someone else's uniform this week.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Had an interesting time at Champions last night... at least it used to be called champions in Rockville.

Watched the game, then there was some house poker going on. So I sat in on the low table, and then won to the next table.

First hand I pull a card on the river all-in, and drop this other skins fan to a couple chips.

Man I felt bad doing that to my bretheren. So I asked him if he blogs, and he said yeah... on ES.

Now I dont feel so bad. I got busted out later but I tried to sway him to switch sides... we will see.

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 8:20 AM | Report abuse

I find it utterly staggering that anybody, anybody would even consider trading anything for Brunell.

Do these people not have access to game footage from the 2005 and 2006 seasons?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Nate I am 50/50 on trading Brunell. After watching the game highlights on redskins.com. LBP look really bad but the other side is when was the last time a team lost 2 qb's in a season.

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Zebra, it's been so long since any of our teams were or even looked like champions that DC can't even have a sports bar called Champions anymore?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 8:27 AM | Report abuse

On Mike & Mike this a.m., they were briefly discussing the NFC East and both thought that the 'Skins were still 4th in the division. Weren't saying they were awful, but they just don't see them stepping up this year. I say nice to fly under the radar for awhile....

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | August 31, 2007 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Gotcha, jm220, right as usual. I'm just stunned that anybody, no matter how dire straits they may be in, would consider trading for this guy.

And us getting anything for him in return? That would be simply incredible.

In any event, it hasn't happened yet, but I did pack a ham sandwich with my lunch just in case.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Nate
If they are willing to give a draft pick for him is the only reason for 50% for trading him. Face it this is his last year. If we could get something for him makes you want to pull the trigger.

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Nate;

It is called Winston Billiards and Cafe.

Do not go there.

There were two pull down screens for projectors to watch the game. With the poker tourney there, only one was right in front of the table peeps were eating and drinking at.

So about 12 people were buying food and beer to watch the game right in front of them.

All of a sudden, they change the channel to the Tulsa UL-Monroe game. We asked what was up and they said one guy at the bar wanted to watch it.

Now the other pull down was still on the skins. but it was across the way, with the poker tourney in between us and the screen. So peeps were blocking the screen frequently.

They pulled down another screen that was less obstructed, but not in front of all of their patrons.

So, long story long, we asked the bar manager why one person overrides 12, and he said that the TV in front of us is linked to the one at the bar in front of the guy who wanted to watch tulsa. Bull Shti...

So that place can go f itself, never go there.

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 8:38 AM | Report abuse

A first string touchdown
Celebration leaves me sore
Cindy, I need rest

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | August 31, 2007 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Cricket nice pulls.

Skins looked good last night. JC looked very confortable out there.

What I liked best he was hitting his second and third option in Cooley and Sellers.

What I don't like is he was hitting his second and third recievers.....hopefully our WR's can get open more often like ARE did on the TD.

Those Dink and Dunk will serve us fine provided our running game takes off. Gibbs cut his teeth with power running and short passes then bombs over the top when the D cheated.

Oh man, three and out then TD got me fired up.... Now for the games that count.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Brunell, fighting for the No. 2 quarterback job, was the subject of an inquiry by the Seattle Seahawks on Thursday, sources said, but no deal was completed after Washington's 31-14 loss to the Jaguars at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium. The Redskins could still deal him with roster cuts looming Saturday -- Atlanta expressed some interest weeks ago -- although the market for the 36-year-old is not deep.

MMMM. LOL

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 8:40 AM | Report abuse

mike golic needs to be fired immediatley. He is the absolute worst in the history of TV or radio, the worst.

Posted by: fire golic | August 31, 2007 8:45 AM | Report abuse

F Mike & Mike...worst hosts EVA!

If they hate us we must be destined for great things.

Mike Golic is an embarrassment to his much cooler bro, Bob Golic...

ESPN has so jumped the shark!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Love ESPN giving us some justice this morning showing only Campbell's 5 passes as the highlights in a loss.

Also love the positive comments on here with the exception of fake Palmer's play and periculum. Seriously can his IP address be banned with the others. Nothing to do with playing the game or not.

Looks like we got a franchise QB. This is the best I have felt about going into a season in quite some time.

HTTR.

Posted by: cdubb | August 31, 2007 8:54 AM | Report abuse

From Tom Boswell's column: "With one sweet, eight-play, 70-yard touchdown drive on their first possession, the Redskins planted the seed of hope. It doesn't take much, does it?" So true!

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | August 31, 2007 8:56 AM | Report abuse

on a scale oe 1 to 10, how bad is Palmer, i mean seriously. i don't care if he is a rookie, that was pathetic. And who in the skins org. thinks bramlett isn't better than that??????????

Posted by: cut palmer now | August 31, 2007 8:58 AM | Report abuse

CL,

Couldn't agree with you more about ESPN. I remember loving ESPN in college. Now it's ETFM--Entertainment Tonight For Men.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Just checked the highlights on NFL.com. Does anyone know who the CB was that got burned on Reggie Williams TD toward the end of the 1st half. Looked like Westbrook but was tough to catch. Is Ryan Hoag the 5th WR with the TD catch?

Posted by: cdubb | August 31, 2007 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Now it's ETFM--Entertainment Tonight For Men.

LMGO!

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

ESPN is way lame...except PTI of course...

But I will admit to loving Bronx is Burning this summer...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Jason,

After last night, we sure could use some investigative reporting as to why in the world we let Bramlet go in order to keep Palmer

Posted by: Redskinrex | August 31, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Yes CL that was a good show.

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Nice to see the enthusiasm. Also nice to see Portis not being needlessly thrown to the wolves.

Value for Brunell? bring it on!

Posted by: Dik | August 31, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Cdubb, it was Westbrook...so he will probably be cut...and I loved the guy. He was so hoping to make the team.

Posted by: Lisa | August 31, 2007 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Via cnnsi. Week 1 shutout....

Worst offensive line
The Miami Dolphins enter the season with the prospect of lining up with three first-time starters on opening day. Rookies Samson Satele, Drew Mormino and second year offensive tackle Anthony Alabi have struggled adjusting to the speed of the pro game, and the offense has struggled because of that. Cam Cameron has tried to mask their deficiencies by using a lot of three- and five-step drops, but defensive pressure has resulted in a several sacks and a number of tipped passes. Trent Green's passing woes in the preseason are partially due to rust, but the lack of consistent protection in the pocket has prevented him from getting into a rhythm. But Green is not the only one struggling behind the makeshift line. Ronnie Brown has failed to find running room. Barring a quick improvement, the Dolphins offense will struggle moving the ball during the regular season.

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rex - my uneducated guess on keeping Palmer would be the draft pick they spent on him. Landry will more than make up for it but Palmer and Ecker look like stinkers.

Posted by: cdubb | August 31, 2007 9:15 AM | Report abuse

I say if Brunell gets traded for some value, and B Lloyd or Randall El have over 50 catches, with the other around 35 to 40...(this of course assumes Cooley is around 75 and Moss the same) then we will officially have to get off the FO backs.

They would have righted the ship...

Agree?

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 9:15 AM | Report abuse

It was Westbrook cdubb, poor guy put himself in a very bad position and tried to arm tackle a 220lb 6'4" WR. Oops.

I watched the last 5 mins of first half and first 10 of second (Miami wasn't shown on TV last night), was that a HORRIBLE game at that point or what? I know LBP stunk the place up, but there just wasn't anything of interest going on. Makes you feel sorry for the guys out there for whom that was their season finale...

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Lisa. Maybe he'll stick on the practice squad. Got burned on a blitz, tough assignment.

Posted by: cdubb | August 31, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

It was funny to watch the piqued interest (and I imagine restless night of handwringing) from Lisa when the Brunel news came out. Never seen a staccatto burst of posts like that from her

Time to order Direct TV Lisa so you can see Mark with the headset on in Seattle.

Three forty, three forty. hut hut.

Posted by: DTC | August 31, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Yes Z and if my grows balls she'll be my uncle.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Should read Aunt...rough night..

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 9:21 AM | Report abuse

And to the draft

Rodgers - looking better
Golston - Starting 6th rounder
Monty - 3 DT making his way into starting rotation once griff retires in 2 years
Rocky - Looks about to blow up for a 2nd rounder we traded up for
Landry - Starter Day 1
Taylor - beast, needs to improve angles
JC - Worth trading up for now, huh
Cooley - absolute gem of a 3rd round pick

So my beat on the FO - their drafts arent that bad. Actually, with lesser picks they seem to have a high rate of success under gibbs.

They draft D, and the sign O. If the signings on o start shaping up as I said in the previous post.. i will officially be off their backs

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Do what Skinz?

that made no sense to me

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Funny, Zeebs and Skinz. Funny.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Rogers-Actually Stated that a pass wasn't his fault because the WR used a "double move"

Golston-A good pick.

Monty-Aint done nuttin yet.

Rocky-TWO second round picks.

Landry-Like Ol' double move and Taylor were top 10 picks. Hardly the work of front office types. The Gov and AMT2DStix were calling for this guy before last season was over.

Taylor- Top 10 picks again. You don't get credit for Top 10 picks.

JC-5 for 5 against 2nd-3rd stringers a Star does not make.

Cooley-A nice grab.


In Summation-I'll give credit for Landry, Taylor and Double Move.

Dear FO,

Good Job on screwing up our Team so bad that we have had 3 Top 10 picks in 3 years.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Looking around for Lisa. DTC lol that was funny.

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

[private to MV Dame]

So let's say we're around 83,400 right now.

That's about 5,500 comments to satisfy the Boren Penultimatum. By kickoff on Sunday the 9nsth, or nine full days from now.

I'm not so good with math... that's about 600 comments a day? I'm starting to Believe we can Do It!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Z,

It should have read "If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle"

it's an expression meaning that's alot of ifs.

I love the enthusiasm though. I'm just a scorned fan who is bitter because my hopes have been crushed so often. Keep fighting the good fight though.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

And the thing about the Boren Penultimatum, is that if we get the job done -- and I'm confident we will! -- you just know she's just gonna come right back and make more demands of us. It'll be "100k by Hallowe'en!", "200k by Xmas", etc. etc.

*sigh*

We're up to the task. We're going to have a LOT to rap about up here this season.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Maybe we can trade Portis to the LA Galaxy for Victoria Beckham... At least she is easier on the eyes.....

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Did everyone hear all the sympathetic comments for Jimoh when he was left home alone on the Toefield TD run?

Anyone would think he was going to get the guy if he'd been in a better position - which he wasn't because he'd overpursued too. :-)

Brunell to Seattle - can we have a collection for his plane fare?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 9:39 AM | Report abuse

btw - more FO fodder.... Remember Rosenfelds - the QB Shottenheimer drafted???? The QB "The 'ol Ball Coach" released??

He is looking like an all-Pro as a back up for the Texans.... Probaly one of the top 6 back ups in the league... would probably start for a few teams....

Good move danny!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Scraping the Seattle newspaper site for anything on the Brunell trade, came across this 'where are they now' on former Skin Ed Simmons. Tough article.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/329402_where29.html

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

For the last time guys, the only reason I have been in support of Brunell is that he is a classy guy and has been a mentor to Campbell (as he was to Ramsey). He simply did not deserve the bashing you all gave him last year - and continue to do. Please, please remember who threw the 2 bombs to Santana in that fabulous Dallas win - Brunell! For that reason alone, he deserves our respect.

I was just totally shocked by the reports last night as they came out of nowhere and Brett Haber seemed adamant it was true. And after watching Palmer, it is evident he is not ready to take the helm if (heaven forbid) Campbell or Collins goes down.

My favorite players are: Shawn Springs, Santana Moss, and Sean Taylor.

Posted by: Lisa | August 31, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Brunell to Seattle for a draft pick would be great.

And after watching Gardner, Rod get cut Wednesday night from the Chiefs on Hard Knocks (which was actually a little sad), can we give some love to the Front Office for that trade to Carolina in 2005. We got a 6th round pick (which unfortunately became Jared Newberry) but still an actual draft pick for Gardner, Rod who was cut by the Panthers in a matter of weeks.

We just stole that pick from them. Just stole it.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | August 31, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt, come on now, a man named "Sage" is never going to be a good football player. Maybe as a kicker. That's a girl name!! :)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

I would love to have a job where I don't have to do anything and get paid millions of dollars for it... I just heard a fantasy football commercial on the radio this morning and who got named dropped from the Redskins? Portis right? Nope.

Ladell Betts

Portis better be ready come game time. I know how we talk about him being tough and getting it done on Sundays... I just hope he hasn't gotten soft over the past year.

TGIF

Posted by: Dorf | August 31, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

My overall take:

Man, is this team set to explode from the blocks. For the first time, this is starting to feel like a Gibbs 1.0 team.

Sorry, Redcoat, but the Fins aren't going to know what hits them in Week 1. Double-digit win.

Pete Kendall--a huge pickup, totally worth the draft pick.

CP: the crazy critics here--especially bizzare anger seeping into posts--is, well, crazy.

The defense will be very good. Not sure they'll be top-10 (not enough upfront pressure on the pass for my taste), but vastly improved.

I AGAIN ASSERT (my all-time favorite RI post-starter, pioneered by the inimitable periculum) that JC will be a Pro Bowler this year.

If Suisham delivers the goods in close games, as I expect, we're 11-5 and deep into the playoffs.

And that ain't kool-aid, I don' think, but slowly accreting optimism based on observation.

Posted by: farstriker | August 31, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt, come on now, a man named "Sage" is never going to be a good football player. Maybe as a kicker. That's a girl name!! :)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 09:44 AM

And not just any girl -- Sage is a Spice Girl! Or is she an herb girl?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 9:49 AM | Report abuse

farstriker, I was just thinking as I was reading that:

"He's sippin' that Kool-Aid"

Least you know it. Stay positive brother (or sister) See you in December.

Posted by: Dorf | August 31, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Nate calling Sage a girl name. Classic LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

That article on Ed SImmons is heartbreaking...

No one named "Sage" can be a player in the NFL huh?

And no one man named "Shirley" will ever be one of the greatest sportwriters of all time...

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

brother and comrade teacher, Dorf abiding

Posted by: farstriker | August 31, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

And that ain't kool-aid, I don' think, but slowly accreting optimism based on observation.

Posted by: farstriker | August 31, 2007 09:47 AM

If it ain't kool-aid, is it the Gator Aid they're going to be pouring over Gibbs every week?

Why do they do that anyway? It seems more like a punishment than a reward. They should pour the Gator Aid on the losing coach.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

um...thanks for the link Nate now I have to go to the bathroom and have a good cry!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Lisa, you absolutely get props for being Brunell's staunch (and often sole) defender up here.

There's no question he's a 'good guy.' It's just tough for most of us to see beyond the undeniably poor play, and the belated revelation of a hidden injury.

Unless and until we win something, the hallmark of Gibbs II will be bringing in Brunell via trade when nobody else seemed to want him, and sticking with Brunell long after it made any sense to do so.

But you're right, nothing can take away the glory of those two bombs to Santana at the end of that ugly MNF game vs the Pokes. I just wish we'd continued to have moments like that for the ensuing two seasons.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Sorry for the downer link, dudes. I kind of want to drive up to eastern WA to buy Big Ed a drink.

PDX crew, road trip???

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

farstriker... how are you brother... Good ol' silent reading. I really shouldn't be RIing right now. What level are you at? Where? Glad to abide with you.

Posted by: Dorf | August 31, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt, don't call me Shirley.

But come on now, the great Shirley P was born in the 19th century, when they had different rules for boy names than they do now.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Tough guy with girl name: Hollywood's Carroll O'Connor

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Uh-oh... name game!

Fran Tarkenton.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Lisa, you absolutely get props for being Brunell's staunch (and often sole) defender up here.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 09:53 AM

Lisa's not the sole defender. Mark deserves much better treatment than he gets up here. He got us to the playoffs and won a game. He's been a good soldier, doing whatever he's been asked, helping Ramsey and JC, even cutting his pay this year.

No, he's not "the bomb" but he's not claiming to be, either. To my mind he's every bit as much a "core Redskin" as any of the other guys on the team. Just a "core Redskin" on the downhill slope -- like Salavea, like Lemar who have already been let go. Brunell hasn't been let go because there's no young guy on the roster who's better than he is.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Loseable Type hates the name game!


Ashley Lelie.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Sage looked great in the Osaka bowl too. You had all pro, backup and Texans in the same sentence. Come on now Wyatt. We can bash Snyder for plenty but I am not seeing that one.

Posted by: cdubb | August 31, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby,

I called out JLC for not reporting on Brunell for RI nation, which he still has not done, 12 hours after the rumor broke.

As for being in the locker room, it takes 30 seconds to call Cyndy with the inside information to post on RI.

It doesn't matter where JLC is, it matters who he has access to talk to, brother.

The 'Skins FO is stonewalling him for his previous editorial comments.


Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Name game...

Courtney Brown

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 31, 2007 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Sage's Preseason numbers.... 103.8 passer rating.... 33 for 52 (63.5%).... 364 yards.... 4 TDs and 1 Int... and you complain because you think he has a girls name....


Is this Vinnie/danny posting or are you just a moron???

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Taylor Jacobs.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

JC rating? 80.4

55.4% completion

5 TDs.... 3Int


We have total idiots in the FO.

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I'm taking Boswell's challenge. I'm in for the Skins this year.

The Skins starters dominated the Steelers starters, played even with the Ravens and Titans starters, and dominated the Jaguars starters.

All were .500 or better teams in the dominant AFC last year, and there is no reason to think each team will not be at least as good this year.

Skins look like an NFC playoff team based on limited looks.

A note on Clinton Portis. Last year, when Portis finally came back from his shoulder injury, but before he suffered the second injury midseason, Al Saunders said something to the effect that "Boy, it's really a totally different offense with CP in there."

And, note CP was on a decent Saunders pace before he went down.

Betts, by contrast, got a lot of yards when the games didn't matter because the Skins were not striking fear in anyone at that point.

The net of it: there is not going to be any 50-50 split of carries this year. It's Portis until he's gassed, then Betts.

It might be like Kansas City in 2005 when it was two series Priest Holmes, one series LJ all season.

Posted by: Boswell Baggins | August 31, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

C'mon, Wyatt, it's Friday before a holiday weekend, I'm just goofin' around. As usual.

And yes, I are a moron.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Dorf: College, on the Eastern shore of Maryland. Close enough so I can pick up a fuzzy over-the-air channel 5 (or 9, last night) and a staticky AM 980 or 92.7, if need be.

Posted by: farstriker | August 31, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

News Flash...vacation is better than real life. The Outer Banks is great. I highly recommend it if you like fat drunk hillbillies eating barbecue. And I know you do.

See you for the draft tomorrow, and there'd better be ballet parking.

Posted by: SMACK | August 31, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Thanks anon, I read JLC's article that included the info. on Brunell. JLC is basically reporting Gibbs's public comments, in which he is denying anything per usual. All reporters had access to those comments.

I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I am a Skins fan (from 1968) who now lives in Houston...

Sage Rosenfels is better than an QB the Skins have... Watch him play before you open mouth and insert foot. He is playing behind one of the worst O-lines in the league and is scary in his accuracy... And we got what for him ?????

BIG ZERO....

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

We would be insane not to take a draft pick for Brunell. How many other teams in the league actually believe their 3rd string QB will do something other then hold a clipboard or go Jesse Palmer on 'The Bachelor'? Sure the Palmer kids stinks now, but I bet Campbell would have too if not given the time to develop.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 31, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

fat drunk hillbillies eating barbecue.

Damn Smack you a little hard on yourself there. Only drunk hillbillies I know are cowgirls fans like yourself.

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

SMACK, and if you like hillbillies burning their plastic garbage in the campfire next to you, I recommend southern Vermont camping.

Maple syrup and burning plastic--special memories!

Posted by: farstriker | August 31, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Okay, Wyatt, okay. I will now add Sage's name to the gigantic and ever-expanding list of players we gave away for nothing and who then blossomed elsewhere. Where's that get us exactly?

Enjoy watching him play this year, dude.

(Darn punchy for the Friday before a holiday weekend, aren't we? HAIL!)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Name game...

Pornstar- Dirk Johnson

Posted by: CC | August 31, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Name game...

Cleo Lemon

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 31, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Sage was a victim of the Spurrier coup de tat. I tend to trust Marty's judgments on QBs.... he got Philip Rivers over LBM and a ton of draft picks too.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Nate - just venting... Actually you will recognize quite a few old Skins on the Texans roster.... Barber, ND Kalu... I think Terry Orr's kid is the TE....

Part of the formula for "CONTINUED SUCCESS" in the NFL is a FO that is better than other FOs.... Our FO decidedly is not and is playing with an anchor aorund its neck in the form of bad judgement from The danny....


Even IF the FO is now effective (which I doubt), the damage done will take years to overcome unless a miracle occurs and Moses, I hear from reliable sources, died a few years back....

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

If we can get ANY value for Brunell, we should take it. I respect him and he has been a good leader/locker room guy, but between him and Collins it's a tossup. Because if JC is out, we are done anyway, and I have just as much confidence in Collins as I do in Brunell to get us through a few games if JC is hurt (please oh please no).

Those 2 strikes to Moss I'll never forget, I'm jumping up and down in my basement trying not to scream and wake up the wife and kids, glad I stayed up for the end of that one.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | August 31, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

btw - more FO fodder.... Remember Rosenfelds - the QB Shottenheimer drafted???? The QB "The 'ol Ball Coach" released??

He is looking like an all-Pro as a back up for the Texans.... Probaly one of the top 6 back ups in the league... would probably start for a few teams....

Good move danny!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31

Wyatt;

I was talking about Gibbs 2.x

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

The Skins starters dominated the ... Jaguars starters.

Posted by: Boswell Baggins | August 31, 2007 10:07 AM

Didn't you watch that game Boswell? Jacksonville didn't put any Defensive starters on the field? The BEST that JC played against was second-stringers, some were thirds.

That doesn't diminish the fact that he looked good - he did - but you can't read much of anything into last night's game except that both teams third-string/fringe players looked really bad.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Boz - I accept your challenge...

The absolute best the Skins will do is... 9-7.

And that is if Suisham does well....

If we have serious kicking problems... 6-10.

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh, FO bashing commmencing early. That should really be "13-A."

Time for reposting the RI blog-post table.

The table has been revised and simplified. In a non-proportional font like Courier, it prints out nice and pretty.

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RI Blog Post Table

There's been considerable redundancy recently. The following table is meant to address this problem by conserving valuable photons. Instead of typing out a long stream of familiar argument/rant, please use the following codes:


| Assert | Dispute | Scorn
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Snyder sucks | 01-A | 01-D | 01-S
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Vinny sucks | 02-A | 02-D | 02-S
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St. Joe sucks | 03-A | 03-D | 03-S
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Manboobs sucks | 04-A | 04-D | 04-S
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Buges too old | 05-A | 05-D | 05-S
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700p book sucks| 06-A | 06-D | 06-S
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Skins suck | 07-A | 07-D | 07-S
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MB sucks | 08-A | 08-D | 08-S
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R Clark f-up | 09-A | 09-D | 09-S
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Dockery f-up | 10-A | 10-D | 10-S
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Lack of depth | 11-A | 11-D | 11-S
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OL problems | 12-A | 12-D | 12-S
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FO sucks | 13-A | 13-D | 13-S
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RI sucks | 14-A | 14-D | 14-S
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JLC sucks | 15-A | 15-D | 15-S
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GLOG sucks | 16-A | 16-D | 16-S
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Prev post sucks| 17-A | 17-D | 17-S
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SJK Shabingus | 18-A | 18-D | 18-S
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Posted by: farstriker | August 31, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Sage Rosenfels is better than an QB the Skins have...

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:09 AM

Wyatt,

Is QB a job that takes a while to learn? How many years has Sage been in the league? How many years has Campbell been in the league? How many weeks has Palmer been in the league?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

name game

Tory Holt

Name game porn star

Tank Johnson

Posted by: Hail to 'em | August 31, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

JC rating? 80.4

55.4% completion

5 TDs.... 3Int


We have total idiots in the FO.

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:06 AM


Wyatt,

Are you referencing Campbell's stats? 5 td's and 3 picks is very wrong if you are. I really hope you are not a so jaded Skins fan that you think Rosenfels is better than JC. Never started not even for the qb starving Dolphins.

Posted by: cdubb | August 31, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

If Sage is such a good quarterback, how come he's a BACKUP QB?

If he was so good, how come he could not grasp the starting job when he was in Miami?

Why did the dolphins trade picks with Philly for a QB that is no longer on their roster? If he is that good, how come they went after Culpepper?

If Sage were that good, why did the TExans trade for Schaub?


Sage is a backup quarterback, and in the preseason, he plays against 2-6th stringers, many who will be looking for other employment come
Saturday.

I liked Sage when he was here, and think he is a decent backup. But he aint' someone that will light the world on fire.

Posted by: Rudechain | August 31, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Name game...

Lynn Swann

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 31, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

farstriker....

The revised 13-A is a strong addition to the decision matrix.

Now that the Kendall trade looks like a good move, I bet we won't see any more 10-A.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Why are we talking about Sage Rosenfeld and why would anyone think he's better than JC?

That is not a very sage assesment....(See what i did there?) *Laughs at own percieved whittiness.*

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

While I've grown used to the whining about how we let Pierce go, this is a first for someone to pine for Sage Rosenfels. Wow.

Can someone really be an "all-pro backup"?? How does that work?

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | August 31, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Gotta agree on the Rosenfels posts. Much as I appreciated him pulling a couple of games out of the fire after Fiedler/Frerotten had done their best to throw them away, he was never going to make it in Miami.

And as was said above, we've been thirsty in the desert for even just a half-decent QB for years!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Naw, thing that I didn't like about Brunell was that he was injured so he dinked and dunked in the games and so we lost a better chance to win the games earlier in the season. If he was a smart, he would have said that he was injured and pulled himself out instead of losing any opportunity to make the playoffs.

Sorry to continue beating a dead horse.

Posted by: charlie | August 31, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Name game...

Shannon Sharpe

Posted by: CC | August 31, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

1. Sage played behind a #1 pick (Carr)... MANY MANY people here thought he should have been the starter.

2. Sage played against 1st stringers Thursday night... had great numbers...

3. If we had developed Sage we never would have had to part with draft picks for JC - whom I think will be a good QB... its just that we HAD a good QB in the wings... Then the FO let him go for NOTHING!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I don't honestly think we should even entertain the thought that Rosenfels is better than JC. However, I always liked Rosenfels and thought we should have given him time to develop. As my wife used to say, "He's a Hall of Famer" (he was elected to the National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame in 2001). Also, point of correction, he was traded for a 7th round pick (which became Gibran Hamdam I believe)--not released--before the 2002 season.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | August 31, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

If we really stick to that chart aren't Ricky Bobby's posts all going to be.

1A

1A

1A

1A

With an occasional 13A thrown in?

Just askin' is all.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

and the Miami gig.... Miami might have even a worst FO than the Skins... close, but maybe...

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Damn Smack you a little hard on yourself there. Only drunk hillbillies I know are cowgirls fans like yourself.

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 10:10 AM

jm, this is Redskin NASCAR country! I bet you Joe Gibbs can't buy his own orange juice in these parts.

One of the guys in the house is a Skins fan who wishes Brunell was the starter. So there must be stupid in the air down here.

Posted by: SMACK | August 31, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

"Watch Portis fumble against the fins. We lose. He gets yanked. As he predicted, gone next year."

Posted by: periculum | August 30, 2007 08:43 PM

When the bandwagon comes around, driven by Portis, expect the boot.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

and the Miami gig.... Miami might have even a worst FO than the Skins... close, but maybe...

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:33 AM

Ours has been so bad at times the last few years I'm surprised we didn't try to trade fo Vinny as an upgrade!

Although we do have a GM (Mueller? Mueller?) now with proper separation of powers between him and the coach and he's already making a pretty-good job of rebuilding our O-line through the draft.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt--

I think if you'd actually compare Campbell's stats to Rosengebl's, you'd see why Rosenfeeler is a "journeyman backup" and Campbell is starting for the 'Skins:

Years in league

Campbell 2
Rosenfeld 6

QB Rating

Campbell 76.5
Rosencrance 68.5

TDs

Campbell 10
Roseyscenario 6

INTs

Campbell 6
Rumandbutter 6

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

He played behind Carr, but still the TExans felt they needed to go after Schaub. Miami felt the need to go a different direction even though they had "all Pro" Sage Rosenfels on the roster.

Sage played against 1st stringers. Well even a broken clock is right twice a day. 32 teams in the league and nobody offered him a starters position.

If we had developed Sage, we probably could have drafted Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, and/or Jamarcus Russell.

Sage was gone from the Skins a long time ago. ARe you still upset about Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier and Jeff George too?


Man just let it go. I just don't understand people that want to complain about moves made so many seasons ago.

Posted by: Rudechain | August 31, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Name game...

Republican Sen. Larry Craig of I'm-A-Ho

"I'm Not Gay!"

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 31, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

WTF??? Check out these two diametrically opposed quotes, both based on "close sources to Brunell." Hilarious.


WUSA-9: "The sources, who are close to Brunell, said a trade to the Seahawks is in the works and could be completed in the next few days."

JLC: "Sources close to Brunell said the veteran had been told nothing about a trade being completed, or even close, after the game."

Someone is about to eat a big piece of humble pie.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

JC routinely plays with the first team.... Sage does not...

Look, JC is, and will be, a good (hopefully great) QB.

All I am saying is that our FO is so messed up that we let go a decent QB (Sage) and bring in how many QBs that are no longer even playing in the NFL?

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

SCSkins,

I wasn't necessarily calling you out... just sticking up for Janso I guess.

Here is what I don't understand about our QB situation. Bramlett tears up the World Bowl, yet we cut him and use a draft pick on a rookie QB in what, the 5th/6th round??? We aren't NE here, folks... we certainly aren't coming away with Tom Brady in the 5th/6th round...

I also never really understood the use of a pick on Palmer, whom many agreed would go undrafted. It's like a fantasy football draft... when you know you like a guy, say Wes Welker, but you also know that he isn't going to get drafted until the 15th round, do you really need to go out and get him in the 6th???

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 31, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, and I'm not hungry.

Posted by: Dagwood Bumstead | August 31, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

James Tuthill, props to your missus for the great "He's a Hall of Famer!" line.

http://www.jewishsports.org/jewishsports/inductees.asp#R

Nice to see DC/NY legend Warner Wolf up there. "Let's go to the videotape!"

They seem to have some kind of a Jay Fiedler addiction. According to that list he was inducted four times! What is that, one induction for each NFL victory?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and the SKins did get something for Sage.

He was drafted by Washington in 2001 and only saw preseason action. He was behind Jeff George and Tony BAnks.

On August 22nd he was traded to Miami for a 2003 7th round pick. His time in Miami amounted to 48 pass attempts.

Then he signed as an unrestricted free agent with Houston.

So it's Miami that got NOTHING for him.

Posted by: Rudechain | August 31, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Can anybody out there in angstland tell me if the Dangster's (rhymes with gangster) radio stations stream on the net? I don't always need TV to see a game. Sometimes a good radio anouncer will do a great job of creating a picture.

And I pre-date the Bos with my earlier and often comments that the 'skins will score a lot of points this season and hold their opponments to very few. We're gonna win a lot of games, folks. I feels it.

Name game, let's not forget all the Leslies out there.

Posted by: Neil in Durango | August 31, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

"Dana" Stubblefield (sans Carvey) always seemed like a girl's name to me.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Another Hall of Famer: Lenny Friedman. Didn't he have a cup of coffee with the Skins?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I am all for the Boren Ultimatem but are we really talkin about Sage Rosenfells this much? I guess he is the poor man's Trent Green...

That was a spurrier deal..those were dark times...I mean we let stephen davis go for trung canidate...lets treat the Spurrier years like P Diddy treats ex GF bartenders....deny deny deny...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt;

Flag on the play for referencing Preseason stats to support your claim.

Boonell had a TD last night, do you hear anyone here saying dont trade him?

BTW I always thought sage could be good... but again you never know.

What about Griff who did nothing for the Gmen and then comes here and blows up?

M Washington?

S Springs?

Soon LFB?

S moss?

R Thomas?

CP?

I think our FO has done an on par job with these guys... and if the recent shabingus of B Lloyd and EL is allevuiated, with a boonell trade, then hell yes we have turned from on par to better than avg... not stellar... but better than average.

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Greg from Beantown,

WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY did you have to bring up Pierce. I was feeling so good about my Redskins...it was like Monday after a win afterglow light.....

Oh the humanity!!!!

Yankees 5 games back. Come on Sawks!!

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

"I think there were three standout players among the question marks. First was Marcus Mason. ... Second was Ryan Hoag. ... The third player was LB Anthony Trucks. ..."

Posted by: midniterc | August 30, 2007 09:03 PM

Yes, yes, and yes. These three (plus Eubanks unless HE has to go on the IR) did the most for their personal stock in Game 4. [Also, Hoag had that touchdown to his name from the earlier game.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Someone is about to eat a big piece of humble pie.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 10:38 AM

Warning: I may be about to buy a one-way ticket to PericulumVille - population 5 (he has many personalities), so dis/regard as you wish.

In view of everyone being convinced that Portis' non-appearance in preseason is all a part of some cunning plan by Gibbs (perhaps he's been reading "The Prince" over the Summer?) how about this scenario:

The Redskins FO are seriously considering cutting Brunell BUT, before doing that, they want to establish if he really does have any trade value with someone like ATL - who may currently be playing a game of 'who blinks first' with the Skins FO.

SO, they put out a rumour that Seattle are interested to see if they can flush out any other potential suitors right now. They have plausible deniability on it if it fails, but at the same time if someone really comes back they can cash in.

Make sense, or have I just stepped into the Twilight Zone?

Hi Peri, nice place you got here.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

farstriker...given the GREAT move by the FO on Kendall, I think 10-A should be revised from the "Dockery f-up" to the "Pierce f-up."

Although now that the Tower of London is here, the ghost of Antonio Pierce may finally be laid to rest.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Who would you rather have at MLB -- Fletcher or Pierce?

Pierce was a rat, blowing off the Skins after we made him a playuh, for a 5% salary difference and then going up to NYCity and trashing the team every time he was asked.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, it's funny, I do feel like last night's game was a W for us.

Let's review: no injuries, Campbell marches down the field and tosses a TD, no injuries, Brunell almost gets traded, and no injuries.

HAIL

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

F the Sawks

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Not a bad conspiracy, Redcoat, except for one thing:

Brahm's credibility.

You think he is going to risk tarnishing his credibility on the off-chance that maybe some team might be bluffed into taking Brunell?

I sure wouldn't do it unless my sources were credible.

Say "hi" to perdiculous for me while you are out there.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt you got to be joking. Sage!! Please explain to me how a backup is a pro bowler. Just stop you are making youself look bad.

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if anybody has mentioned... did new old guy Godfrey (R-God) start last night? How did he look in there?

Feeling good about things if he winds up starting vs the Fins?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I Love Humble Pie.

Posted by: T.O. | August 31, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Pretty sure Godfrey started last night, Campbell def was not in. Hey ya'll, been reading for awhile, posted once like a year ago but lurking since the beginning

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Name game:

Marion Barber

Posted by: mile high | August 31, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I love that there is even a suggestion afoot that we lament the loss of Sage Rosenfels--a career journeyman back-up for a franchise that has never had a winning season and is 24-56 in the history of its existence--and add him to the list of other "lamentables" Ryan Clark, Antonio Pierce, etc .

Why not Rod Gardner? Why not Gibran Hamdan? Oh, where are thou Brett Conway? Where art thou 2002 guard tandem David Loverne and Kipp Vickers? How did we ever lose you.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | August 31, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Game Name: Atari Bigby (DB Packers)

Posted by: mile high | August 31, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Tweedr01, and welcome back. Don't be a stranger, dude. We got comment count goals to reach up here!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Is there anyone here who would rather have Pierce at MLB than Fletcher? Seriously, I don't think we can talk about a "Pierce shibangus." It was another solid move by the FO. Okay, maybe not, but it worked out in the end.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Where did I ever say Sage was a Pro Bowler????

OK, we did get a 7th for him.... which amounted to zero...

And I forgot about (must be too traumatic for me to think about) letting Davis go and trading for Trung... What a great move that was...

As for our good FO moves.... Please illuminate me... seriously here... which FA did we get here that didn't come because we offered him the biggest jackpot? Please list....

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Just reviewing the clips from last night's "game."

I know others have said pretty much the same thing, but what the deuce was JoPa thinking on that awful, awful INT? Not that it matters, but was that a mixup on the route? And if so, was it the WR or JoPa who screwed it up?

(Just hoping that there's a Nittany Lion out there who'll take umbrage at my use of 'JoPa' for this lousy kid QB.)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

No prob Nate, ya'll have kept me from going insane especially cuz of the season we had last year. But no worries, we def have the best possible chances this year as opposed to the past couple of years.

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Report: Brunell Headed To Seattle

August 31, 2007 7:00 AM


Our friends at the CBS affiliate (WUSA9) in Washington are reporting that veteran Redskins quarterback Mark Brunell could be traded to Seattle within the next couple of days. 9SPORTS NOW, which believes in the power of the caps lock, has promised to "stay abreast of the situation."

Meanwhile, our old friend from the Post, Jason La Canfora, is hedging his bets on the "broadcast report," indicating that sources close to Brunell knew nothing about the trade. Playing in front of an adoring crowd in Jacksonville, Brunell completed 5-of-6 passes for 47 yards and a touchdown.

It appears that 35-year-old Todd Collins has won the No. 2 job, and that would make Brunell expendable. Brunell played for the University of Washington, so he would be in familiar surroundings. Seattle backup quarterback Seneca Wallace was 12-of-26 for 181 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions in a 19-14 victory over the Raiders on Thursday.

Hashmarks and 9SPORTS have joined forces to get to the bottom of this. We'll be in touch.

m

http://myespn.go.com/profile/hashmarks

P.S.... I emailed Moseley last night about the rumors... his reply:

"This was very helpful, SCSkinsFan...Looks like the Post is sort of shooting the story down...I know La Canfora pretty well...I'll try to track him down tomorrow and see what I can find out...Thanks for the note.

m"

Just doing my part for RI Nation!




Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt, you didn't say Pro Bowler... you said All-Pro, which is even better than Pro Bowler! (Only one per position.)

>>>>>>
btw - more FO fodder.... Remember Rosenfelds - the QB Shottenheimer drafted???? The QB "The 'ol Ball Coach" released??

He is looking like an all-Pro as a back up for the Texans.... Probaly one of the top 6 back ups in the league... would probably start for a few teams....

Good move danny!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 09:42 AM

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

WUSA-9: "The sources, who are close to Brunell, said a trade to the Seahawks is in the works and could be completed in the next few days."

JLC: "Sources close to Brunell said the veteran had been told nothing about a trade being completed, or even close, after the game."

Someone is about to eat a big piece of humble pie.


Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 10:38 AM

2 completely different qoutes. They do not contradict each other. read closely.

WUSA - Statement is saying a trade is in the works. Future tense.

JLaC - A trade is not completed. Present tense.

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 31, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Nate - I think if JoPa would have put some zip on that toss, he may have hit the receiver or at least avoided the INT.

Posted by: CC | August 31, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, sorry about bringing up Pierce, but I just was anticipating that people were going to start in on that dead horse, YET AGAIN.

Pierce has been playing for a rival for 3 years now, and people STILL don't want to let that go.

Posted by: Greg(Beantown) | August 31, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

TE,

Peirce asked them to match the offer given to them by the GMen and they wouldn't do it. I don't blame him for leaving.

It turned out to be a good idea. I mean we couldn't have signed B Lloyd or Bingus had we spent all that money on Pierce. Plus it's not like the D has suffered...

Baker or Pierce? Well based on age i'd take Pierce simply because he'd give you 4-5 more years where Fletcher probably has 2 years at most left. Skillwise I think they are pretty close.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

4th....

Upon further review, agreed. No contradiction. Just scoop potential.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Good call Nate: Texans, all-pro, and back-up should never be used in the same sentence.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | August 31, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Right. Just like Mosely said, JLaC is hedging his bets......

Posted by: 4th | August 31, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Yes, gently tweaking the nose of Nittany Lion Nation with "JoPa," but I also have to admit confusion at the use of "BBP" for "Baby Brother Palmer."

If that's considered an acceptably recoined acronymage, that blows up FOUR common acronyms up here: BBM, LBM, BBP, and LBP.

What's next, BMGO? SJK? AMTTS? Is nothing sacred?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Nicely done SCSF;

Can we put a moritorium on any criticizms of the FO prior to Gibbs returning.

I am out to prove he changed it after he got here

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Please illuminate me... seriously here... which FA did we get here that didn't come because we offered him the biggest jackpot? Please list....

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:00 AM

Wyatt--Do you understand free agency? This is the process by which players get the highest salaries they can. How many quality free agents can you name that signed with ANY team for considerations other than money?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Baker and Pierce aren't mutually contradictory. Having Pierce on the roster wouldn't have meant that they couldn't have signed Baker two seasons later.

Posted by: Sharon | August 31, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

While 90% of free agency is made up of how much you are willing to pay, players like Keenan McCardell decided to go to Houston because it was closer to home. I guess it really depends on the character of the player and the needs

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

The skins RIGHTFULLY, did not match the offer, as it was MORE than Marcus Washington was making. Marcus Washington is a SUPERIOR player to Pierce, and it would not have made sense to pay Pierce more.

Move on...he's now the enemy.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | August 31, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Nate - Sage did LOOK like an all-pro Thursday night... far from me saying he IS an all pro.

Have you looked at his stats for Thursday night or are you just making this up as you go along?

Everyone who is dogging me... please list all the Redskin QBs that are still in the NFL. If you really think that the Davis/Rosenfels/ Pierce/Smoot/Bailey moves were good FO moves... please stand up!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Baker and Pierce aren't mutually contradictory. Having Pierce on the roster wouldn't have meant that they couldn't have signed Baker two seasons later.

Posted by: Sharon | August 31, 2007 11:09 AM

Have you heard the words "salary cap"? How could they pay both of them? Besides, they both play the same position. Which would you use as the (very expensive) backup?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

One thing I have been trying to find is information on the distribution of picks that NFL teams have in upcoming drafts. That data would be one concrete way to compare the Redskins FO to other FOs, and show us if there are any other NFL teams "mortgaging their future" with picks.

If anyone finds that info. I would be interested in seeing it.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"How many quality free agents can you name that signed with ANY team for considerations other than money?"

That's what happens when an incumbent player extends his contract without ever reaching free agency. FO here buys 'em rather than grows 'em, but Ladell Betts is an exception. Let's hope they get it done with Cooley ANY DAY NOW as well.

Posted by: Sharon | August 31, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I sure would hate to see Palmer as the #3 but if we can get anything for Brunell I think we should. Is Drew Olson still available as a #3 QB? That guy has a lot more promise than Palmer, IMO.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 31, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I think 4-12 mis-wrote when he wrote that.

BBP - Big brother Palmer. But, it was originally for President Palmer when created.....

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 31, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Yeah watching Palmer last night was killing me, I couldn't stand watching him throw. Granted he's gotta learn some but it was just awful watching the offense go nowhere.

And I know it really doesn't matter but watching the end of that game was pissing me off because they had reggie williams still in the game and toefield too. We weren't even playing rock, just brown, who was horrible and mason who rocked.

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

It's kind of sweet that you're spinning Pierce's two years with the Gints while Baker was still with Buffalo as some kind of FO victory, TE. Does Danny Boy pay your allowance?

Posted by: Sharon | August 31, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Sharon - dont forget The book ends who continually redo their contracts to help the bottom line

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I am purposing a blog law or at least blog referendum:

Enough rehashing and mixing past FO mistakes. The narratives created are false b/c they are different eras/coaches/philosophies etc....

We survived the cap hits, we were able to add players this year, most agree the new players this year are of a different breed, and maybe Carter/Lloyd can have redemption years...

At some point its old newz that just isn't relevant. New season starting which will provide a whole new slew of issues, problems, highs and lows....lets look ahead!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I believe Wyatt and Sharon have lapsed into a closed loop of 13As. Someone give them a nudge please.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

We cannot seriously be talking about Antonio Pierce again. In the name of David Loverne, please no . . .

Posted by: JamesTuthill | August 31, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

reggie williams is struggling just to make that roster....he has really fallen out of favor with that team and the qbs

Posted by: mile high | August 31, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

The FO bashing has been done to death (Sage Rosenfels?? Get a clue Wyatt). I'll catch up with you guys next week when we can start talking about the season opener.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

"...Blowhard Pale, was a very different taste, my g/f said it was very sweet..."

Posted by: kost52 | August 31, 2007 12:07 AM

Nah, never mind Kost. It would be WAY too easy.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 31, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Thanks CL. And I'm looking forward to meeting you 'F2F' some day too, but I'm sure with you that phrase has a very different meaning!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I believe Wyatt and Sharon have lapsed into a closed loop of 13As. Someone give them a nudge please.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 11:23 AM

A nudge is too subtle for these clowns. We already tried it. I think they're bethesdaboy back under new monikers. Or his clone.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt,

Rosenfels, has done nothing. He will continue in this fashion. Until he actually is STARTING, you've got nothing to stand on.

Pierce, as I stated above, left because we justifiably would not pay him more than Marcus Washington.

Smoot, how did his stint in Minn. work out for him?

You need to move forward on the Redskins. You're pissed off about stuff that happened 3-5 years ago.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | August 31, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Pierce - Marshall
Davis - Candidate
Rosenfels - Danny Wuerful
Schottenhiemer - Spurrier
Archuletta - Clark


Every single one of these "upgrades" was FO driven - either by being the largest suitor or trying to save $$$$. Someone name me just one "steal" other than Cooley....

Our FO has been heading in the wrong direction ever since danny bought the team!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

BBP...yes, yes. My mistake. We use the "B" for "Big" up here, and the "L" for "Little". Certainly should have said LBP sucks.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 31, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"Jacksonville's scrubs are taking the 'Skins scrubs behind the woodshed."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 09:51 PM

>>> THAT one falls on Vinny and crew.

"Okay, only 3 NFLteams have had two backs with 1,000 yards...is this the year?? ...

1985 Cleveland Browns
Kevin Mack - 1,104 yards on 222 carries
Earnest Byner - 1,002 yards on 244 carries"

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007
10:10 PM

>> The sweet part is that the Skins call that second guy "Coach Byner."

"Remember Rosenfels? ... He is looking like an all-Pro as a back up for the Texans..."

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 09:42 AM

>> The Texans are looking surprising this preseason. Not sure why, maybe O-line (which would explain why Sage would have some time in the pocket).

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

13A
13A
13A
13A
13A

...

Someone pull out his battery please!!

Posted by: Redcoat as Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt, I'm just having fun with you re:Rosenfels, dude!

I really don't put much import on a career backup's having a solid showing in the preseason, but I wish Sage Rosenfels all the best. I honestly do, since we don't play his team this season and they're in the other conference. But I'll wait to see him do something, anything, in a real game before I crown him.

(Much more interested to see how my fellow UVa alum Matt Schaub does down there piloting the Texans... unless of course Sage beats him out for that plum starting job.)

You mentioned above that you've been a Skins fan since '68, so you've been mostly suffering along with this team for five more years than I've been alive. Okay. I've said it before, but we all love the Skins, that's why we're here. (SMACK, Redcoat and a few others notwithstanding.) For some of us that love is manifest in endless and sniping and carping and grousing and other -ings, not all of which is unfounded. I try to keep the mood light up here. But in the end we want to be proud of our beloved team again. That's what we all want! Think positive!

HAIL!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt - Trading Sage Rosenfels was a "steal" in my opinion...

Posted by: CC | August 31, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

You guys do not seem to understand that until we get an effective FO.

Keep dreaming about the playoffs kiddies.

IF we get in, it will be by default - not by merit.

I am, and always will be, a huge Skins fan. But I am not a foolish fan. Some of you are just setting yourselves up for disappointment...

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

name game

Rosey Greer

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

The only nugget PFT included that non of us have discussed was:

"If Brunell goes to Seattle, he'd rejoin Holmgren, who was the coach of the Packers when Green Bay selected Brunell in round five of the 1993 draft. Brunell also would be returning to the town in which he starred for the Washington Huskies.
"

So, Holgrom would be inclined to trust someone he drafted.......

Posted by: 4th | August 31, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Cindrew, over 500 posts here. Need a new blogwall for blograffiti please.

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"Keep dreaming about the playoffs kiddies"

2005 sound familiar?

Nevermind...

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | August 31, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt let it go man. Stop living in the past. It's a new season and you really can't believe base on a pre season game Sage is All Pro. If he was an all that he would be a starter and not a back.

This point on I am ITA Wyatt.

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Before you all go reading too much into pre-season, the QB with the best pre-season rating in all of Dolphins history is the legendary Ray "who?" Lewis.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=1161

Pre-season means nothing much mofr ethan who gets cut or stays, the important stuff starts next week.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if anyone saw this, but it's worth reading: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview07/news/story?id=2977735

Posted by: P Diddy | August 31, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

From Coach Joe's post game interview last night, he mentioned something along the lines of all players are eager to play, but some don't like to work hard... sounds like a dig at CP. I am sensing a LaVar/Archie treatment for him if he does not produce significantly in the early part of the season.

Posted by: Stop | August 31, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, Ray "who?" Lucas. I can't even get the schlubs' name right when I'm dinging him!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt- Yes, yes. Of course. We should definitely harp on the front office for trading away a guy FOUR YEARS ago who has now become one the "top 6 backup QBs" in the league. What a horrible move. Just terrible.

Yes, they've done boneheaded shti. All of which we've discussed to death up here. But guess what...the season starts in 9 days! ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?!?! I for one am. FO bashing is in the rearview mirror for now. [until the upcoming 4-12 shabingus, upon which it will commence again] :)

Posted by: 4-12 | August 31, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

You guys do not seem to understand that until we get an effective FO.

Was there supposed to be another clause in that sentence? Honestly, Wyatt, this Sage talk has been keeping me riveted to my laptop all morning. We really need the regular season to get going, or we'll all wind up as loony as yourself and Periculous.

HAIL

Posted by: RMilot | August 31, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Nate - I would love to stay positive on the Skins and do believe that our D might carry us into the playoffs...

Our O line is not up to the task - we need no more proof than these preseason games. No O-line; no playoffs... Moss and Cooley will not be able to shoulder the passing game themselves - not at the threshold of being a Playoff caliber team.....

We all NEED to demand a change in leadership in the FO. Until that happens; we will only be wishing for a team that is perenially in the playoffs....

And I hope I am wrong!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

here is what we need to do at fed ex to get the crowd going, either that or make her the next CP

http://www.break.com/index/blindfolded-woman-runs-into-wall.html

Posted by: connskins | August 31, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Name Game:

He Hate Me

Posted by: Dik | August 31, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Name game:
Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac fame.

Oh wait, these are supposed to be football players?!?

Posted by: TDawg | August 31, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Bro, Wyatt, yeah the FO made some crap moves before but god knows those have been beaten to death for how many years now? Let's go ahead and agree that only Cowboys fans live in the past and look to the future as Redskins man. Cuz I can guarantee they are making much wiser decisions with JG in there, can you honestly say you aren't excited that we have a much more experienced, injury free team this year?

I for one am looking forward to proving all wrong

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Great, Redcoat has the first pick in the draft. I suppose he'll be taking Cleo Lemon.

Posted by: kost52 | August 31, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

kost, please post the draft order up here (with our RI handles).

If people are sick of the Sage talk up here, just wait 'til we start talking about our dopey fantasy league!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

connskins, that clip is awesome! More people accidentally crashing through walls!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Name game...

Torry Holt

Posted by: CC | August 31, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

How did Redcoat get the first pick?

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Cool, Jesse Chatman here I come!!! I've been listening to Sween(?) tips on picking, so I know to avoid BBM, LDT, LJ and the others schlubs.

Thanks for helping out a poor Fins fan, you guys are the best!!!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I guess it's too late to enter the draft?

Posted by: Stop | August 31, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

What's the password to get in?

Posted by: 4th | August 31, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

How are you doing 4th?

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Tweedr I am always excited about football!

But I am old school... I do not think you can win if you do not have a dominat line - on O and D. I see no dominance on O-line and the D-line may be feared if Williams captains them well.


I hope for the best, but my football brain says that we will not be among the more feared teams... Like I said - we will ride our D to the playoffs... if we stay injury free...

And the FO thing may have been spoken of previously... and it should be... that is where the team starts! That is where the buck stops!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Hey RMilot - how's the wife? Used to know her at FH....

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Charges cut coaches son
San Diego cut tight end T.J. Cottrell, who happens to be the son of Chargers defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell. Now, it's not as if Ted Cottrell were unfamiliar with this scenario. In 2004, when the senior Cottrell was the Vikings' defensive coordinator, Minnesota cut his son that summer as well. -- NFL Network

Posted by: 4th | August 31, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

getting close to F Wyatt territory...

Wyatt: Dude first of all your not telling anyone anything we don't already know, second being a fan is suppossed to be FUN...its a week before the bullets fly, is it OK to be excited? I got enough stuff to be down about personally and in the world (Iraq war etc..) so in redskins football I dont find it that mondo jovial to be constantly whipping myself over what has obviously been a ill run FO...

But I love my team, love pro football and aint changing teams...and I get excited about the season..SUE ME!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"here is what we need to do at fed ex to get the crowd going, either that or make her the next CP"

Is Frerotte still married these days? I'm just saying.

Posted by: Sharon | August 31, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Did you know? Do you care? One of the most famous person-hitting-wall bloopers happened right here in Portland:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1mPMfiuCO-E&mode=related&search=

The spot on the outfield wall is now marked and named 'McCray Alley.' Which is awesome.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Amen CL, my arm is tired from watching people beat the dead horse. I always keep the same thing in mind every year, hope for the best prepare for the worst. Eithere way I'm gonna watch all 19 games this year, and yeah i know, here's to me thinking my team has a chance to win the SB every year!

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I'm holding on. Day by day. Minute by minute. I def feel good about us trying to hold everything together.

Tommorow will be a month. I don't know how I expect to feel. Thanks for asking!

In other news, I'm about to be on my way to a job interview. This week was supposed to be my last week (It's only 3 of us on our floor), by the said they wanted to bring me back next week as well.......

Posted by: 4th | August 31, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

F Chris Larry! Now calm you SJK down before I pull out the hammer. lol

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt, I assume that was some sort of rejoinder. However, just in case you're confused (and your current Sage-rage indicates you might be), I am NOT actually Rich Milot.

Cheers

Posted by: RMilot | August 31, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Oh sorry to bring you down Chris...

Guess I misunderstood the above sentence that states "We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features."

If you want 100% fun and happiness, and zero analysis and obervation, may I suggest you hang out with Barney the dinasaur?

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"the FO thing may have been spoken of previously"

I think you're right on that one, Wyatt!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

recap: First posted first yesterday, FYI

Posted by: FIrst | August 31, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt,

You know it's time to step back when CL addresses you as "dude". When it happened to me, I stopped posting for a month.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

OK...

poll time... which O-linemen get the axe?

Does Wilson make the team?

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Hail CL - anyone who can't cut the FO some slack here isn't paying attention. I'm not ready for a ticker tape parade. But a hardy pat on the back is warranted.

Oh - & Jasno et. al. Portis played last pre-season. He got hurt going ALL OUT on a meaningless special teams play. Just like the coaching staff wanted him to do.

Can you blame either for wanting to save their asset this season.

enough of the sucky.

"maps for the CP Heart Haters"

Posted by: Dik | August 31, 2007 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Wyatt, come on already, dude, I'm trying my best to extend an olive branch here!

Go ahead and vent about the front office, I know it's cathartic and we all need it sometimes.

In fact, statistics indicate that 47.3% of all comments ever posted on this blog have been critical of the front office!

So please don't expect originality points, and please don't expect us to get as excited as you are about this or that perceived misdeed, and please don't act like you're the only one who 'gets it'! We're all suffering, and we'll all be suffering until we get a fourth title.

Hail.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

talent evaluator - The great, and cowardly, thing about the internet is that it makes posters as brave as they want to be... its all anonymous.

CL can address me as anything he wishes. It is more a reflection on him than me.

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

My bad Wyatt keep up the good work, your analysis is so fresh and new that I was stupefied by your brilliance..

Things Wyatt has taught me:

1. How to break down the skins moves

2. Wow our FO in snyder years has made mistakes

3. Sage Rosefels is actually good

4. O Line is important

5. That the O line strength from last two seasons has been a mirage

6. That we over pay players

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Not to be pedantic, but an INT return is a special teams play?

Posted by: RMilott | August 31, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

We have squeezed all the juice out of this lemon. Time for a new post. Really.

Cindy, seriously, you out there? Want to hook us up?

T-minus one hour to Jasno's live chat.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Nate - I can't watch the Preseason games here in Houston so the FO is just about all I can vent on until the season (and my NFL package) kicks in... I do get to see the preseason games a couple of days late...

But since there are precious few Skins fans down here... If I can't vent here, where can I? If I read correctly, I am following the rules of the forum...

And I do thank you for the branch!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

rest of 1st round order........

2nd pick- "Shoreditch Serpents
3rd- 4th
4- Smack
5- Nate
6- One of Kost's mates
7- dcsween
8- 4-12
9 Kost
10- "U-bend blockers"
11- Zebra
12- jm200

Posted by: 4-12 | August 31, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Guys, Wyatt has taught me two new things:

1. The nature of the internet! I was so confused about how it worked!

2. About myself. I have been an azz up here...I am currently in deep reflection. I really have not repped myself correctly and my karmma is out of whack...

Peace and flowers to all


Love,
Chris Larry

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

CL can address me as anything he wishes. It is more a reflection on him than me.

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 11:59 AM

No, Wyatt, it actually reflects on you.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Chris - let us not forget what you have taught us...

"At some point its old newz that just isn't relevant. New season starting which will provide a whole new slew of issues, problems, highs and lows....lets look ahead!"

Of course, our future is in no way tied to our past! The past just isn't relevant!

What brilliance!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Love, love will tear us apart again.

Let's not forget that we're all freakin' fans! (WAFF - new acronym to be used in the event of infighting up here?)

That's more important than any of the quibbling and bickering we do up here.

I say again, if we were all together having a beverage, there would surely be some good-natured ribbing but NONE of the overheated, overblown silliness we get up here from time to time.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Nate - you're right... like I said - the internet can be very cowardly....

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the LOLs Nate and Connskins.

I feel much better.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

U-Bend Blockers = Stumped

3rd - 4th = funny

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Wyatt, how am I cowardly...I didnt attack you personally...simply disagreed with you ramblings...

And your right the Skins will pay deeply for the Sage Rosenfels move this up coming season

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Wyatt, our "official" O line has not been playing in preseason - did you overlook this? Samuels has been out and Kendall is new. So you cannot base the "patchwork" O line we have been working with as what we will see in the season. And last night the O line looked fine without Samuels.

Buges is HIGH on Kendall...

Posted by: Lisa | August 31, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

How about we all recognize that anyone is free to post what they want.

Everyone is equally free to ignore it.


How about ummm someone give us uhhh some TCCL's or something....Yikes.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

HAHA, CL, yeah skins are def gonna pay for the Sage f up. That must be why we've been struggling, all our talent left with Sage Rosenfels. I'm gonna throw away all my redskins gear and pick up curling now cuz we finally figured out Sage was the our franchise qb in the making.

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Aug 30 2007 5:40PM
Jeff Lageman and I were having a little pregame conversation in my office, which is directly across from the visitors' locker room, when there was a knock at the door. You guessed it; Mark Brunell. He knew where to go for some hot rumors and a trip down memory lane. Speaking of hot rumors, how about this one: Brunell to Seattle? It didn't seem to upset him.

http://www.jaguars.com/News/Article.aspx?id=6270

Taken from the SportsBog.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, I've been working at work today. Sucks.

Did Brunell get traded for a song to Seattle?

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | August 31, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

oh well i am so easily bated into a fight...

wyatt's a good dude, were on the same team..

F CL

Nate always shames me into playing nice...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - you prove my point. Our left side of the O-line has yet to play a snap together... On the defensive side you can stick in a great d-lineman quickly; not so for the o-line.... even my detractors would agree on that one...

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

oh well i am so easily bated into a fight...

wyatt's a good dude, were on the same team..

F CL

Nate always shames me into playing nice...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 12:19 PM

CL--This post begs to be put into haiku. Go back and get it right.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

The Brahm backpedal begins on his personal blog:

Friday, August 31, 2007
August 30-- Brunell was not traded, Campbell is strong in pre-season finale

Joe Gibbs flatly denied a televised report that Mark Brunell had been traded to Seattle for a late round draft pick.. One highly placed source told me after the game the team currently has no interest in trading Brunell..

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I think Seattle would be a good fit for Brunell, Hasselbeck will probably get injured again along with soft Sean, and then complain to the news that everyone is out to get him and that they did it on purpose. Brunell will start and we won't have to worry about Seattle anymore, we can play 10 guys in the box with him playing qb.

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

It's passion CL...Passion.

Besides if you start believing that Sage R. can go to the Pro Bowl it's not a far leap to believe the skins can win it all this year.

Hang on I'll be right back, knock at the door, it may be Scarlett Johanssen and Jessica Alba at my door wanting some company....

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I love Brunello's fu manchu:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2007/08/brunell_trade_wusa_vs_the_worl.html

If he goes, I along with a few other RI hamsters will miss Brunell. He won us a playoff game. The man deserves props.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Larry Fight on RI
takes the bait to easily
nate says be nice

I am a rookie HM

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

SC - I agree that Brunell will def be missed, he's about as stand up a guy as you can get, a great locker room presence. I really don't think it was technically Brunell that won us the playoff game, more d than anything. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, he was a pretty beat up old guy.

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Would someone please be able to tell me why the (SJK) I could not get the Redskins game on over here in DELAWARE, When there where plenty of.FFFAAAAANNNNSS. sitting at the bar praying it would come on. But NOOOO, DC is 2 hours away but what do I get to see???? The Bills game and the 49niners, THEY ARE HOW FREAKING FAR AWAY!!! (screaming at the top of my lungs). I have been to 3 games so far this year MR.SNYDER. CAN YOU HERE MEEEE NOOWWW. Show some love over this way.

Posted by: gawnpostal | August 31, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Nate- Re: the email...you left off "super-conscientious hard working awesome".

Posted by: 4-12 | August 31, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Woo! Three cheers for Brunell -- first Lisa, then me, now SCSkinsFan. Anyone else gonna join the chorus?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Flag on me for starting this discussion when I remarked I think we have turned a corner.

Of course we have a huge corner to turn... that is implied. So no one is ignoring things, we are looking for them to get better.

You dont know what treasure is until you first know the trash.

That was my only point and now I am done.

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Tweedr01...I agree that Brunello did not technically "win" that playoff game, and if I recall, he was injured and not all that effective.

The analogy I am thinking of here is the captain of a ship. The sailors are really getting the ship from point A to point B, but the captain is there to make sure it happens. He is a leader and keeps the sailors focused on the main goal.

Brunell won (didn't lose?) enough regular season games to get the 'Skins one dropped Carlos Rogers interception away from the NFC Championship.

I will always be a big Brunell fan for playing his guts out in 2005, just like I am a big Mark Rypien fan.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mark,

I think you'll like it out here on the west coast and don't worry about the rain, in Seattle they can put a lid on it. Rest assured, the backup QB position back in old DC will be in good hand with Tom Collins. At this point in time, he's got Soup's back and as long as Soup's standing there is a chance to make the playoffs. If Soup goes down and Tom goes down too, you won't be around, but we would have Carson's little brother (what's his name) to hold the clip board, for whomever we've picked up to fill the 3rd spot.

They need you in Seattle (or Atlanta). And it's not that we don't need you here, its just we need the draft picks a lot more.

best regards...

Posted by: Stumped | August 31, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I know, I've got it. I am going to go to Walmart, toss a few Eagles jerzies on the floor, kick them around a few times, and it will all be better.

Posted by: gawnpostal | August 31, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

NEW RUMOR: Brunell to the Eagles!

Philadelphia Eagles backup quarterback A.J. Feeley suffered what's being described as a broken bone in his left hand during Thursday night's preseason finale, a loss to the New York Jets.

Feeley is scheduled to be examined by a hand specialist today, and it's unclear what his playing status will be at the outset of the regular season. The injury is to his non-throwing hand.

If he's unavailable, rookie Kevin Kolb might be the top backup to starter Donovan McNabb, who's coming off a knee injury that cut short his 2006 season. The Eagles failed to re-sign Jeff Garcia, the veteran quarterback who took over for McNabb last season and led the club to the playoffs, in the offseason and just traded veteran Kelly Holcomb to the Minnesota Vikings when it appeared they had one too many backups.

Posted by: periculum | August 31, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Too true SC, he definitely was the leader, he took all the crap we gave him through the years in stride. It's too bad he did get those injuries, I still think if he had been somewhat healthy the whiny little seahawks would have been sent home.

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

At this point Brunell is too valuable a commodity given the dismal performance of Mssr Palmer. Palmer played a lot like he played in college. Lots and lots of interceptions. So, I'm not sure Joe Gibbs will be the bank by trading Brunell. Obviously trading Brunell and receiving a draft pick may seem good but we all must know that draft pick or one of the others will have to be used on a QB. From this point the Redskins are going to have to draft a QB a year just to keep the pipeline flowing just in case of a catastrophic injury or a bitter contract dispute. There is nothing Gibbs can do about the former. He used to be better than most at handling the latter. If the Redskins can do well this year that job will almost certainly be made easier as that was when he was at his best at retaining the loyalty of players.

Posted by: periculum | August 31, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"... You know it's time to step back when CL addresses you as "dude". ..."

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 11:55 AM

Maybe with cL, but the universal signal for something not good about to happen is when a stranger calls you "buddy." If someone comes up to you and starts, "Hey, buddy, ...", what is about to happen next is rarely good.

Also, the FO has done some bone headed moves in the past, but no WAY they let Brunell get to Philly. That might be the only incentive to trade (rather than cut), i.e., to avoid sharing the offense within the division.

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

When does the waiver wire hit? That is when we'll see just how much value any back-up QBs have to Seattle or Phithydelphia....

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Sorry - meant "Philthydelphia"...

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"Oh - & Jasno et. al. Portis played last pre-season. He got hurt going ALL OUT on a meaningless special teams play. Just like the coaching staff wanted him to do."

Dik, he did not get hurt on a special teams play. He got hurt when he made a very stupid tackle near the sidelines after a turnover. He could have pushed the guy out with one hand and he would have avoid that injury. So he is partly to blame for that.

Posted by: Stop | August 31, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

sween, the office equivalent of "Hey, buddy" is "With all due respect..."

You know the meeting just got more interesting when you hear that one.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

If he goes, I along with a few other RI hamsters will miss Brunell. He won us a playoff game. The man deserves props.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 12:26 PM

This is the one bit I don't get. Didn't he stink the place up in that Tampa playoff game? And the week after? How exactly did he win the Tampa game?

Brunell 7/15 41yds 0 TD 1 INT

That's taking being a 'homer' a bit too far isn't it?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Peri,
Think of it this way. If we trade Brunnel there is a chance he would play. If we keep him and Soup and Collins go down, our season is over, so we can bring in a prospect now or hang on to Brunnel as a hedge against a disaster thats already happened.

(periculum in the true sense of the word , and thank you for expanding my vocabulary by the way)

If we trade him for a late round pick, we're up a late round pick. We'll just be using our time to hone the skills of some young prospect (probably not what's his name).

Posted by: Stumped | August 31, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to my first game in FEDEX on 9/9, what's the best way to get there? By car or metro (if that's possible)? I'd appreciate some advice from the FEDEX regulars. Thanks.

Posted by: Stop | August 31, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

41 yards passing in a playoff game. Ugh. Thanks for dragging that awful stat back up Redcoat.

Posted by: cdubb | August 31, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Stop;

You got parking passes? Get there @ 9 am and wait in line on the exit ramp until the let you in.

Actually anytime before 11 shouldnt be too bad.

If you have to park in the pay lots... get there at 9 and start walking!

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

The answer Stop is that there is no good way.

It depends where you live and if you have a parking pass and when you are going to get there.

Leaving is abysmal either way.

If you show up early, then I think driving is the way to go provided you don't mind spending the money.

If you plan on getting there an hour before the game then metro/bus is the best way.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Two words indicating how this holiday weekend is kicking off in Portland, OR:

Gogol Bordello

Gypsy punk rock madness hits our fair city tonight.

Oh, it's on. It's on.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Sween--In Australia you're fine if they call you mate, but watch out if it's "matey".

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Zeb. I guess I'll start walking.

Posted by: Stop | August 31, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

41 yards passing in a playoff game. Ugh. Thanks for dragging that awful stat back up Redcoat.

Posted by: cdubb | August 31, 2007 12:52 PM

It gets worse when you remember that the Reaper ran the ball back 51yds (I think) for his TD after the fumble.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat.... see my later rejoinder.

Brunell did not play well in the Tampa Bay game. But he was a leader in 2005 and deserves credit. All I have to do is compare Brunell to Jeff George to make my case.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

My apologies if I'm late to the punchbowl on this one, but did someone already post JLaC's story on the Seahawks/Brunell thing? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/30/AR2007083000944.html

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Jasno's live chta starts at 1:15, not the top of the hour.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/08/28/DI2007082801286.html

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Want to really feel god? Stop wondering what will happen if JC goes down... start wondering what will happen if Sanatana goes down! They'll stick 8 guys on the line!

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Stop, if you are Metro accessible, the best way to do it is stop by for some pre-game beers somewhere on Capitol Hill (start a charitable foundation with the savings compared to what you spend at FedEx), then take a cab. Cabs are allowed to drive you right up to the stadium. On the return flight, take metro, but prepare for a quick stride (everyone else gets kind of gassed on the walk back b/c of the hill in btwn ... its about a 20 minute walk fast, 35 minute walk slow). Metro coming back is fairly well timed, even if it feels like being cattle.

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"Leaving is abysmal either way."

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 12:55 PM

That's what I am not looking forward to the most. Thanks for the advice/warning.

Posted by: Stop | August 31, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Stop, ignore my previous suggestion. Arrive early by Metro (plenty of room, bring the paper) and "sidle" up into Ricky Bobby's tailgate (act like you've always been there). Getting home on Metro is much faster than driving (and by "much" I mean "slightly").

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

There are buses that will bus you to and from the stadium. So getting to the game isnt bad because people filter in and a bus leaves every 5 minutes.

After the game, the buses are all lined up and everybody streams to them. Then you gotta wait.

So then you either wait, walk, or make friendly with people around the stadia to kill the time.

But either way do nto get in your car to leave. If you have the time, wait two hours after the game to try and drive. That S is a F ed up.

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Stop

Make sure you take advantage of the clean and lovely restrooms at FedEx before you leave the stadium. It's a long wait out of the lot.

Posted by: RambleOn | August 31, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Are the Skins going after the Raven lineman who was just released. They need depth on the O-line.

Posted by: John | August 31, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I pick 12th. WTF!!! Who in God's green earth set that up? Damn Frenchmen! LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

A cab from Capitol Hill to FedEx is cheaper than a parking pass.

Wyatt, just like the Skins are way deep with quality CBs, several of whom have to be cut but in some cities could start, some team out there has to be way deep at quality WR. Skins are deep at WR (adjective withheld on purpose).

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I absolutely would not drive to a game unless I had a parking pass. Forget the satelite parking - if you're going to have to take a shuttle, might as well take metro and forget about having to drive "responsibly."

Parking passes can be purchased by "vendors" along the way, but they probably go for $30-40. I generally sell our extra one if I don't need it for $20, so that's my guess.

Posted by: RambleOn | August 31, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

" ... Damn Frenchmen! ..."

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 01:10 PM

The Simpsons' Groundskeeper Willie says expresses francophobia the best -- "cheese eatin' surrender monkeys!"

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I assume you mean to say that the Skins are deep at CB??

Yes, some good quality WR might be had after the waiver wire hits...

Here's a thought.... What team needs a reliable back-up QB and has a good WR to trade???

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Some very rare praise from Don Banks:

Redskins fans shouldn't worry too much about Jason Campbell this year. The third-year quarterback looks up to the job of playing the game's most scrutinized position in one of the NFL's most scrutinized markets. Campbell's 5-of-5, 54-yard, one-touchdown passing effort at Jacksonville on his only drive Thursday night was a preview of the good things to come.

Not everybody knows a lot about Campbell just yet, but they will.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | August 31, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah jm. So then you get the 1st pick of the 2nd round. Back to back picks. That just screams for an Ashley Lelie, Jason Hanson double!

Posted by: 4-12 | August 31, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny. Donny, who loved bowling. And so, Theodore Donald Karabotsos, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your final mortal remains to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well. Good night, sweet prince.

Posted by: Walter | August 31, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I know the Texans need a 3rd CB.... and it looks like they will be releasing Keenan McArdle (spelling?)

Posted by: Wyatt | August 31, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Walter Sobchak in the house!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Forget that 4-12 I am picking LBP.

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

No way jm. I've got him at 8th. Unless Nate scoops him up before me. Then I'm going with Sage Rosenfels!

Posted by: 4-12 | August 31, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

4-12 LMAO

Posted by: jm220 | August 31, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 31, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

BTW jm- You can go on the site now and pick your team logo. I almost picked the hammer, but that would've been bad karma for my team.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 31, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Backtracking to yesterday's news (that is SO yesterday sween!), I noticed something in Jasno's article that seems like the understatement of the year (or, at least, a statement that could not ever possibly be overstated):

"The Redskins, one of only two teams not to score a defensive touchdown last season, believe the linebackers they have helping in coverage in the nickel -- Fletcher and McIntosh, who spent almost all of his rookie year on the sideline learning the defense -- are much more adroit at dropping back and far more athletic than their predecessors, Lemar Marshall and Warrick Holdman."

Fletcher/McIntosh vs. Marshall/Warrick ... things that make me go hmmmm.

Right up there with Springs/Rogers/Smoot vs. Rogers/Wright/Rumph (altho that home team in that one would be things that make me go puke).

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

So is this brunell rumor legit? we haven't had any posts from JLC yet

Posted by: Dante | August 31, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

This thing got way blown out of proportion on TV. No trade is imminent and the Skins have to determine if they would even be wanting to move him at all given how the fact they have no other decent options for a third Qb themselves. -jlc

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Stumped on the chat....nice

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Anyone want to trade for my 1st? I can maybe throw in $200M over 5 years as well if I can get down to 2nd or 3rd pick?

Posted by: Redcoat as Vinny Cerato | August 31, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

greg(boston) the flip side to nobody knowing JC is he dont know all the EXOTIC blitzs and defenses and MIAMI is not the 1st D he wants to see!!! They have a really good D and one the SKINS arent use to!

Posted by: 1st game will be rough! | August 31, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Weird, we've always had "Purple Parking" and have never had a problem getting out of FedEx (well except when I take my mom and she gets inordinately flustered by all the people, but that's another story entirely). For a 1pm game, I'm usually on the 6:30 United flight to Chicago (and on to Seattle) out of National. Whoever I take to the game drives me to the New Carrolton Metro station and I glide all the way down to the airport and have never once missed my flight. I also protect myself on the 6am just in case...

Posted by: P Diddy | August 31, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I forget who had the theory, but it's entirely reasonable that the Brunell rumor was started by the 'Skins to drum up interest and create a sense of urgency for (probably) Atlanta to pull the trigger. Pretty standard NFL stuff, really...

Posted by: P Diddy | August 31, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I doubt we'd get anything for him. Only reason I see us trading him is if we are going to cut him and we want to make sure he doesn't end up with another NFC East team.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I forget who had the theory, but it's entirely reasonable that the Brunell rumor was started by the 'Skins to drum up interest and create a sense of urgency for (probably) Atlanta to pull the trigger. Pretty standard NFL stuff, really...

Posted by: P Diddy | August 31, 2007 01:48 P

That would be me and my cohorts in the Dolphins' Ministry of Disinformation, Diddy.

With that "1stgame will be rough" post a little while ago, I feel like my efforts to destabilize the balance in the force of the legendary Skins support in time for the 9/9 game are beginning to bear fruit.

Heh heh heh....

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, you're the blog equivalent of Baghdad Bob.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 31, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I doubt we'd get anything for him. Only reason I see us trading him is if we are going to cut him and we want to make sure he doesn't end up with another NFC East team.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 01:51 PM

I would pay to send Brunell to another NFC East team so he can bring them down like he does here.

Posted by: Helloooo | August 31, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't think they'd bring him there for his arm. I would think it's his knowledge of the playbook, signals and our audible calls they'd like.

Posted by: Skinz | August 31, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone seen this yet, John Clayton calls us a sleeper team:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview07/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2997877

Posted by: Tweedr01 | August 31, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

NEWZ FLASH:

Help on skinz WaPo beat is on the way!!!!!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 31, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

For what it is worth, BMitch was asked about the Brunell trade rumor on 980 - since he was sitting (out in the rain) with Brett Haber as Haber broke "the story." BMitch said that Haber mentioned it "might happen." But I was watching and Haber was pretty adamant that it HAD happened - was in fact iminent. Guess BMitch was trying to cover Haber's ass.

Posted by: Lisa | August 31, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if they hired Strawberry Shortcake.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 31, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Accomac, Va.: Has The Washington Post selected another reporter to help you with the 'Skins beat? Who? And are you going to be Batman or Robin?

Jason La Canfora: Batman. Absolutely Batman. After 4 years on this beat with 4 different partners, I ain't riding in the sidecar like The Boy Wonder.

Jason Reid, formerly of The LA Times, will start Thursday I believe. Don't know him, never talked to him in my life, but I am told he's a good dude.

Posted by: No Strawberry Shortcake | August 31, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Stop,

As you'll see earlier in this thread, an INT return is considered 'special teams' by some.

And by no means am I saying CP's injury is anyone's fault but "the game's", as it should be played.

But THAT is precisely my point - that CP was injured by doing what he's supposed to do - tackle a guy. He is not whining, he is not gutless or heartless. He is prudent and very talented.

I'm not blaming anyone, merely defending a good football player and fellow 'Cane when others are tearin' him down.

Posted by: Dik | August 31, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Tut, tut it looks like rain.

Posted by: Stumped (wearing Turban) | August 31, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

How is there no post on BURNELL!? COME ON!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, you're the blog equivalent of Baghdad Bob.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 31, 2007 01:58 PM

I didn't know who you meant initially, as he was known as "Comical Ali" in the UK. I'm just funnin' with you guys is all.

You don't need to see his identification.
These are not the droids you're looking for.

Heh heh heh...

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I would pay to send Brunell to another NFC East team so he can bring them down like he does here.

Posted by: Helloooo | August 31, 2007 01:59 PM

Whoa... there's a lot of bileness going out to a QB that gave us one good season and help mentor JC. He was legit when he was young. We got him at a point when he was in decline, not his fault, he got older. How about cutting him some slack. It's the FO and/or coaching staff's incompetence that brought us a putrid season last year.

BTW thanks for all the advice/warning on getting to and from the stadium. I am now excited and dreading the experience at the same time. Have a great weekend all!

Posted by: Stop | August 31, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

645teenth!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Jasno will post something when he has something solid.

Look at it from his perspective...First, he has to write a story, which means research , confirmation, etc. Then he can make a post here, but he also wants scoop. So the article has to be pretty far along before he makes it common knowledge up here on RI.

We like it up here, we BOGO up here.

Posted by: Stumped (wearing Turban) | August 31, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Oh dear, another Jasno to keep track of.

How are we going to tell them apart?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm worried that there may have been some subliminable messaging around here recently. I've been paying some bills, writing some checks, but when I get to the bottom of the check, I sign Chris Cooley.

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

.(this of course assumes Cooley is around 75 and Moss the same) then we will officially have to get off the FO backs.

They would have righted the ship...

Agree?

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 09:15 AM

Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds an acorn.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Jasno writes on his chat "I'm a Rock guy. I have a soft spot for him."

That means that he's caught between a Rock and a soft spot.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

new post, and you can't be first

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 31, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Wyatt, come on now, a man named "Sage" is never going to be a good football player. Maybe as a kicker. That's a girl name!! :)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 09:44 AM

I resent that remark, Barney.

Posted by: Sage Rooster | August 31, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so your saying we would be lucky if that happens? That every once in a while the sun shines on your @ss?

Posted by: Zebra | August 31, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

He asks, "is it safe?"
To place name upon this thread
And declare it done?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

[private to Nate in the PDX]

Uhhhh, actually, I just wanted to once again thwart Redcoat...

Posted by: MV Dame | August 31, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Name Game:

He Nate Me

Sissy Name Game:

Wyatt

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

virtual commando

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Guess whose bzz-ack!

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 31, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Nine days remain.
Kickoff of a new season
Penultimatum.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 31, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

17A, geek

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

The scary thing is
I started to stop MV...
It's got out of hand!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

looks left. looks right. commando across the blog...........!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Dropping a "left" bomb up in here!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

"left" bomb?

I meant "last" bomb.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 31, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Jason,

Jags are releasing Leftwich, I'd take him over Brunell!

Posted by: Redskinrex | August 31, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

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