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No Inquiries About Levi Jones

I just received an e-mail from a league source who wrote the Skins have not been among the teams inquiring about unsigned tackle Levi Jones. The Bengals cut Jones in May. He is believed to be seeking a starting job and commensurate pay for such a role.

Washington would only reveal the MRI exam of right tackle Stephon Heyer's bruised knee was "encouraging," according to a team spokesman, so we don't have a timetable for his return.

The Skins have had plenty of time to make a move toward former Eagles tackle Jon Runyan, but Coach Jim Zorn has repeatedly told me the guys in camp "are the guys we're going with." Obviously, things could change if Heyer is sidelined for a while.

By Jason Reid  |  August 4, 2009; 7:13 PM ET
 | Tags: Jim Zorn, Jon Runyan, Levi Jones, Stephon Heyer  
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Posted by: pharrrrtt | August 4, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

If the guys 'in camp' are on the sidelines rather than the field then I'm guessing we may need another guy.

Posted by: sfskin | August 4, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Why can everyone else see that our O-line sucks...except for the people running the actual team???!??!?

Posted by: BMACattack | August 4, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Starting to worry that our line is going to put the O back in "Oh, the humanity!"

Posted by: freakzilla | August 4, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

redskinhead

"Is it a lack of perspective or just a lack of confidence in the front office?"

Both.

And that explains so much of the panic.

Had the team been drafting and 'training up' young linemen, we'd all be much more secure in the light of negative reports about poor line play out of Ashburn.

But it hasn't, and when you toss in the occasional FA acquisition mistake the team makes from time to time, you get the anxiety that riddles the fanbase into panic.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

BMA...Have you ever thought that the people actually running the team know more than Sally Jenkins and the rest of the "informed critics" out there. Preseason isn't even a week old yet and people are already jumping off the ship. Why not wait before we start to complain. I have seen articles with people inserting Colt into the starting line-up. He hasn't even been annointed the #2 guy yet. People are saying that Portis is done. Now I hear that our O-Line will ruin the season. Sure we could use an upgrade on the o-line. But progress has been made along the o-line and more will come. Just give it time.

Posted by: eboyd1121 | August 4, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

So far -- no serious injuries -- the Skins have time to wait from the minor injures to heal and and use this time to evaluate the younger talent.

It could be a good opportunity for M. Williams, S. Burly, E. Williams, D. Clark, W Montgomery, and the rest of the backup OL to show the coaches what they can do on the field...

Posted by: siris | August 4, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

siris,
I don't think M. Williams is going to get many reps as he has some man pain right now. I do agree this injury lull will give the team time to evaluate the youngsters, but there is not a lot of depth at tackle. Question: If Heyer is out of commission and the second team offense is on the field, who plays left tackle? Burley?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 4, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

JLaC was at Redskins camp today...

He's reporting on the Skins Camp on NFLN....

Ofcourse it was all about whether or not this will be JZs and JC17 last year......

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 4, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

People in this blog will say, "WTF! Fire Vinny!"


Posted by: MistaMoe

Watchu mean WILL say... We been sayin' it for YEARS.

Posted by: TheCork | August 4, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

eboyd1121,
I think the bulk of the fans have been complaining about the offensive line since last season. There's nothing new here except they are a bit thinner with the injuries. Maybe it is a good thing that the offensive line is all we can find to complain about right now, but, I think it is a real concern. The offensive linemen have been waving defensive linemen through for the first few days of camp and that brings up some grim memories from last season. I take it with a grain of salt when a Philip Daniels beats out Mike Williams. When rookie Orakpo sits Samuels on his butt, Dockery gets beat by Lorenzo Alexander, and rookie Jeremy Jarmon beats Williams around the edge, it raise my eyebrows. Something be amiss in dat dere offensive line, I say.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 4, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Question: If Heyer is out of commission and the second team offense is on the field, who plays left tackle? Burley?


Answer: Devin Clark or Burley or the ghost of Jim Lachey.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

"Preseason isn't even a week old yet and people are already jumping off the ship."

Anybody who 'jumps off the ship' this early on isn't a real fan.

They are bandwagon fan types who buy redskins' paraphenalia, but, when the chips are down tell you how much they like the stillers/pats/colts/chargers/iggles or any other team that's out front.

I say let'em jump.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Preseason isn't even a week old yet and people are already jumping off the ship."


Anybody who 'jumps off the ship' this early on isn't a real fan.

They are bandwagon fan types who buy redskins' paraphenalia, but, when the chips are down tell you how much they like the stillers/pats/colts/chargers/iggles or any other team that's out front.

I say let'em jump.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 8:15 PM |

I say throw 'em off.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 4, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Why can everyone else see that our O-line sucks...except for the people running the actual team???!??!?

Posted by: BMACattack | August 4, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

That's because Danny, Vinny, and even Jimmy Z. appear to be fiddling while Rome is burning. Seriously, you reap what you sow, and this O-line has NEVER had depth because they don't invest in it at all. After 09 we'll see a lot of finger pointing if things don't improve up front.

Posted by: Crunkenstein | August 4, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Rome burning...

Perhaps the problem is we need a new OLine coach? Is Buges too fond of the men he knows? First guy the FO is going to ask is him, right?

Posted by: SonofNero | August 4, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
JONEEEEEEEEESSS

Posted by: alex35332 | August 4, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

We don't need any stinkin Levi Jones........

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 4, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

You people are rediculous!!! Why do you act so surprised that our O-Line is struggling? Its not like we didn't walk away from last season knowing that that was our biggest issue. Honestly, we walked into this season with that understanding. Sure...we didn't address that issue in the draft, but we did get Orakpo and Haynesworth. My guess is that they will virtually negate the lack of offense by at least providing our kicker with an opportunity to score points.

Find the brightside Doomsdayers! I know its DC and its not a very happy town, but please!!! You should at least know how to man the helm.

Get on board or walk the plank. You are the same people sitting in the third row asking the "real fans" to sit down when the Skins are on D agains the Iggles and its 3rd and 1 to go.

Posted by: Soup17 | August 4, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

"...Perhaps the problem is we need a new OLine coach? Is Buges too fond of the men he knows?"


We'll address this comment after the season ends.

If Buges somehow pulls these guys together, then, well, he stays.

But if there is another year of poor line play, maybe J Bugel needs to follow St Joe out the door.

At some point you really have to wonder why there's this dependence on older players while with other teams, vet linemen are cut and replaced regularly.

At some point, you have to wonder how much of this falls on Buges' shoulders, not to disrespect the man.

I know uttering this is sacrilege, but, like with the players, it's a business for the coaches, too.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Why haven't we heard a peep from/about Chad Reinhart? The dude doesn't have a wikipedia page...Lorenzo Alexander and even Ade SJK Jimoh have ones!

Posted by: Crunkenstein | August 4, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Get on board or walk the plank. You are the same people sitting in the third row asking the "real fans" to sit down when the Skins are on D agains the Iggles and its 3rd and 1 to go.

Posted by: Soup17

Glad to see someone else calls Jason "Soup".

I'm on board but I'm very, very ambivalent...Redskins seasons tend to end in agony.

Posted by: Crunkenstein | August 4, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

You people are rediculous!!! Why do you act so surprised that our O-Line is struggling?

Posted by: Soup17 | August 4, 2009 8:43 PM

Who is acting surprised? I think everyone expected this.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 4, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Why haven't we heard a peep from/about Chad Reinhart? The dude doesn't have a wikipedia page...Lorenzo Alexander and even Ade SJK Jimoh have ones!

Posted by: Crunkenstein | August 4, 2009 8:46 PM |

He's been mentioned several times in other blogs. Here's the thing, if you don't hear an OL's name, it usually means he's doing pretty well. Those are the indications that I get from other blogs (they are not analysts and experts I'm sure), so that is encouraging. Remember, you only hear about O Lineman when they're getting beat, injured, or they're holding.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 4, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

How does Carson Palmer feel about Levi Jones?

Posted by: clark202 | August 4, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Mike Williams diet was our Super Bowl.

Posted by: mack1 | August 4, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

crunkenstein

"Why haven't we heard a peep from/about Chad Rheinhart?"


To back up scampbell, what's been posted about him has been very positive.

It seems he's starting to 'get-it,' suggesting that should Thomas have us usual season (injury-filled), Rhino would be a capable fill-in.

There was a quote where Zorn himself spoke approvingly of the idea of Rhino working with the 1st team offense.

I don't mention Bridges at guard as the ways things are trending, he might be starting at tackle if, like last year, Heyer is injured only on.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

OK, it's still early and nobody seems to be SERIOUSLY damaged..yet. But the Mike Williams Science Project hasn't proven that Man was meant to fly, or that the FO has addressed the # 1 failing element of this team last year, and that is the injury-prone aging offensive line (*yawn* so what the f*** else is new?)..How the h*ll else are we old fans supposed to do anything but surmise cranky-a**ed , cynical conclusions , with the record for failed attempts like our Front Office has??
It resembles some absurd money-laundering carousel scheme more than it does a team serious about an NFL championship, BRAAAAAAAAAUUAAAAAUUUGHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *more beer**

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

And regarding my new blues stagename, I haven't reached a conclusion on my title anyway,and , so I'm still the Post makes it hard to change , anyway, so I'm still "frak" the Freak from Mozambique..

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the Chad Reinhart update--good news for Jason Campbell's ACL.

Posted by: Crunkenstein | August 4, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Where is Chad Rhinehart you say?

He's been biding his time along the exquisite Rhine River.

Scenery and attractions include Firework Castle Illuminations, red roses the size of your hand and brunette beauties one piece short of a two piece ya dig, wit a shovel.

Here's the best part: As long as you act like you've seen a pair, they will too!

Posted by: Vicc | August 4, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

The Unexpected Offensive Line?:


Samuels--lt
Dockery--lg
Rabach--c
Rhinehart--rg
Bridges--rt


Maybe this is the redskins' o-line sometime around, say, Halloween?

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

The Unexpected Offensive Line?:


Samuels--lt
Dockery--lg
Rabach--c
Rhinehart--rg
Bridges--rt


Maybe this is the redskins' o-line sometime around, say, Halloween?

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Sorry about the double post.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

BRAAAAAAAAAUUAAAAAUUUGHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *more beer**

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse


Just make sure it's more that 64 calories of Michelob Ultra.

Posted by: Vicc | August 4, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

How does Bridges match up against O-Rak, Demarcus, Justin, Osi and Co.??

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I can't satan diet beer, it's puppy-p*ss. I can't stand it , either..

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Amstel Light I'll do as an act of desperation...

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

How does Bridges match up against O-Rak, Demarcus, Justin, Osi and Co.??

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse


How does Mike Williams match up against Rak-O'Ribs, lean green cassava leaves, and of course, the 'Wendys Baconator.'

I think I may have written that in reverse or something, I jus know that getting devoured was part of the equation.

Posted by: Vicc | August 4, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Granted, Mike Williams might take some time to develop, maybe he'll be combat-ready for the second-half of the season, when trench warfare attrition is expected to take its toll , so don't want to count anybody out in reality, all things are possible in Heaven, blues rawk..

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I agree our line is looking a bit weak. I went to the practice and the D-Line just man handled those guys. What happen to they were keeping in shape, and the line has lost a lot of weight. But at least we haven't lost any players for the season like the Eagles and the cowboys

Posted by: Tom_square | August 4, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Mike Williams seems like more of a guard anyway, because he lacks lateral skills necessary for a tackle to protect the edge, right??

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone tell me what the F is wrong with Rinehart, didnt we draft him in 3rd or 4th - really dont know, but never mentioned, WTF? Can he play? Can the MD C we drafted play? Has Bridges sucked? Unless the all suck, then why are they on the team?

Posted by: mhartz1 | August 4, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

signing old players that other teams have cut, isn't a solution

rinehart did step in for thomas, read your homework

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 4, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone tell me what the F is wrong with Rinehart, didnt we draft him in 3rd or 4th - really dont know, but never mentioned, WTF? Can he play? Can the MD C we drafted play? Has Bridges sucked? Unless the all suck, then why are they on the team?

Posted by: mhartz1 | August 4, 2009 10:23 PM |

Do you actually read anything before posting? Scroll up about 1 1/2 hours for news on Rhino. Read around for news on Bridges, he has been mentioned several times in several different areas and the reports have been positive.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 4, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

frak

"Mike Williams seems like more of a guard anyway..."

Maybe he, and not Bridges, is the guy who backs up at two spots.

And I'll tell you one thing: If I'm Stephon Heyer's agent, I'll point out to him that as an undrafted player, he basically got shut out of the real money NFL ballas get.

Heyer should be motivated for self as much as team. I can't see putting in the work they he has, but not then playing for a payday.

We bloggas talk about Soup17 being shown the money based on perfromance this season. But Heyer is standing right behind him waiting for his cut--that is if he wants it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

--that is if he wants it.

Posted by: MistaMoe

that is if he can start 16 or so games and be good

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 4, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

heyer-kendall-rabach-geisenger-fabini

we beat the eagles with this line

wow

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 4, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

the defense always has the advantage early on in camp...right?

right. thank you.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 4, 2009 10:54 PM | Report abuse

We've gotta remember, two-a-days with this defensive line might be serious stress on about 30 out of 32 offensive lines, and sh*t happens on a small planet, so , let's remember Blatche's D is gonna be HELL for all comers, regardless..

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

i'm thinking capitol defense goes from great to dominant, and the O will get way better field position on average

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 4, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Why haven't we heard a peep from/about Chad Reinhart? The dude doesn't have a wikipedia page...Lorenzo Alexander and even Ade SJK Jimoh have ones!

Posted by: Crunkenstein | August 4, 2009 8:46 PM |

He's been mentioned several times in other blogs. Here's the thing, if you don't hear an OL's name, it usually means he's doing pretty well. Those are the indications that I get from other blogs (they are not analysts and experts I'm sure), so that is encouraging. Remember, you only hear about O Lineman when they're getting beat, injured, or they're holding.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 4, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse


Do you follow this team or football in general?

They ONLY way you want that said about you is if you actually start. Dockery, an average guard, was a third round pick and didn't seem to take him a couple seasons to play. You seem to have more faith in Rinehart than the staff. Don't you think that if he had the ability to slow a player you mave have seen him at least on the sidelines last year.

Please save me the time and refrain from posting.

Posted by: dlr4skins | August 4, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

At some point you really have to wonder why there's this dependence on older players while with other teams, vet linemen are cut and replaced regularly.

At some point, you have to wonder how much of this falls on Buges' shoulders, not to disrespect the man.

I know uttering this is sacrilege...

Posted by: MistaMoe

Not a sacrilege, an inaccuracy.

Joe Bugel doesn't draft replacements for his "older players." The reason he plays and doesn't cut older players is because the FO has failed to replace them with better, younger players.

Just look at the job Bugel did last year. With old, small linemen, little passing to relieve pressure on the run game, and a limited playbook due to a new coach, he got the team off to an extraordinary start with superb running behind excellent blocking.

Then the parts of the jalopy broke.

This year, it's basically the same jalopy, only with another 12,000 miles on it, and another year older.

The difference so far is it looks like the parts are breaking down before it even gets on the on-ramp.

Successful teams keep up a continuous flow of good, big, highly drafted linemen. The key reason why this team is not successful is because it does not.

Posted by: TheCork | August 4, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

all the more reason to ROOT for the O line.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 4, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Let's hope our offensive line only has to play a handfull of defenses as good as ours.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | August 4, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

lets hope ther isn't a defense as good as ours

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 4, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm worried about Buges, too..Everything about the O-line is putting the whole team in doubt..

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Ha Ha...same old DanSkins!

This offensive line is going to sink the season *again*. But, next draft, if we actually have any picks, I'm sure we'll pick linebackers and and running backs or something. The offensive line has been a glaring weakness for how many seasons now? 3/4 Dockery doesn't cut it when virtually the entire line needs to be remade. Sorry, but even Samuels has been coasting on reputation the past couple seasons. Much like Jansen did for far too long. I remember Bill Parcells did a film study on an NFL show like 5 seasons ago and he was commenting on how slow Jansen was and that he did not seem like the same player anymore. And, finally, this season he is gone. Thomas I think is done as a reliable top notch starter as well. But, of course, no real backup for him or anyone. No young studs we're grooming. Why? Bc we usually have about 3/4 draft picks when Pitts and most of the good teams annually have 7-10 picks in the draft. Look at Philly...they stock their team annually with picks and they are always pretty solid with young studs everywhere. The DanSkins, we make a couple of splashes by overpaying for big names and have no depth at most positions. If there were hardly any injuries in football, Dan might have a bowl by now. But, alas, someone needs to tell him he owns a real football team and not some fantasy team. Cerrato is not the problem with this team, it's Dan Snyder!!! The day he is no longer the owner is the day I can return to being the fan I once was.

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 5, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Don't blame Bugel. He's still one of our Legends of all time. Give him what he needs to have an Average line and watch him have a great line. Screw Danny and Vinny. Blame them!!

Posted by: scottmando | August 5, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

I know...we can do the panic move again and give up two of our draft picks for a once very good o lineman with two arthritic knees. This team is constantly chasing it's tail and that's why they are not to be taken seriously. I can't even tell you if Campbell is worth keeping bc of the crappy lines he has played behind. He could very well be Mark Rypien in disguise for all we know.

I think the work Gibbs 2.0 did to get this team in the playoffs was highly underrated!

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 5, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Furthermore, I think Haynesworth is a great player, but I've never seen guys his size age well in the NFL and stay productive. I would be happy with two pro bowl seasons out of him at this point - for $100 million plus? Come on...I'm sure Jerry Jones had a nice toast to that brilliant maneuver.

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 5, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

I think it was 3 drafts ago I suggested they use every pick on OL. A bit over the top perhaps, but I looked at the age of our OL and KNEW that time was going to run out. How did I know this? I looked at the age of our linemen and added 3 years. And what a shock, the line was old. Well, here we are, 3 years later, with 1 Chad Reinhart the ONLY OL pick in the last 3 years.

No one wonders why the OL is a problem. We only wonder why the FO chooses to ignore it.

And fwiw, the talent on the OL is adequate -- its the durability that is so problematic.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 5, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Good News - Bad News

The good news is that we have a good defensive line.

The bad news is that we have weak offensive line.

The report from training camp is that the defensive line looks great and the offensive line looks very weak.

The truth is that if both of these statements is true, then in reality the defensive line isn't as good as we think and that the offensive line isn't as bad as we think either.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 5, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

The RI Post Title I least want to see:

"Heyer Today, Gone Tomorrow"

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 5, 2009 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Al qaeda attacks US from Afghanistan, with Saudi hijackers --> Bush/Cheney invade Iraq

O-line falls apart --> Snyderatto tries to replace Campbell, invests heavily in defense

I think I know who Snyder voted for.

Posted by: Alan4 | August 5, 2009 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Japan bombs Pearl Harbor --> US attacks Germany


I think we all know how that turned out.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 5, 2009 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Belated happy 48th B-day, President Obama. I was going to post this yesterday and forgot. Sorry.

Posted by: CottonEyeJoe | August 5, 2009 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Just watched Bourne Ultimatum again . . what an a$$ kicking kick a$$ movie! The chase/fight scene in Tangiers with zero dialogue for 12-15 minutes and window leaps and just all around a$$ kicking. . . .

Can we draft a fictional character for our o-line?

*sigh*

Posted by: sfskin | August 5, 2009 2:46 AM | Report abuse

Don't worry, Joe. The teleprompter doesn't carry this blog, so Obie never reads it.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 5, 2009 2:52 AM | Report abuse

Anybody who 'jumps off the ship' this early on isn't a real fan.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 8:15 PM


Anyone who was on this ship thinking it was destined for Miami isn't a real thinker.

Just because you love the team doesn't mean you can't carry a realistic view of them. Unless this team picked up Bruce Matthews, Russ Grimm, and Joe Jacoby in their prime this offseason this team was never gonna compete for the playoffs, let alone the Super Bowl. So I take these injuries for what they are...inconveniences. And ultimately, the reason why the Skins won't overcome their own obstacles.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 5, 2009 5:45 AM | Report abuse

brownwood --
Just you and me dude. You ready to rumble?

beep beep

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 5, 2009 6:09 AM | Report abuse

Here is the deal everyone. The Redskin offensive line has not been good for a number of years. Chris Samuels has been to numerous Pro Bowls but the honor is meaningless because his NFL peers "like" him. On the field...he gets beat like a rented mule. Derrick Dockery is a chronic false start machine. So for all the fans who love having him back, just remember the many false starts he committed in past games that cost us field position. Rabach brings communication along the line, but not the size and agile footwork to fend off most DT's. Randy Thomas is done. Injuries have taken their toll on Randy and Randy has NEVER been good in pass protection. Never. Randy has been a good pulling guard, but very so so in pass blocking and that doesn't cut it. Fans talk about Portis not being able to run the same way he could in Denver and the truth is HE CAN'T BEHIND THIS LINE. Clinton Portis has gotten all of his yards in D.C. because he has willed himself to each and every one. Which is truly amazing what he has accomplished here yardage wise. I say these things because they are true. Injuries help people. If the injuries we have now will give others opportunity than so be it. Will Montgomery needs a shot. He's been able to handle the defensive pressure so far. Jeremy Bridges needs a shot at tackle. He is more than capable because of his footwork and arm technique. Chad Rinehart needs a shot just for the sheer fact of experience. Mike Williams...better luck next year. It's just not going to work this year. Bottom line: THE LINE MUST HAVE NEW BLOOD. We will not see deep passes because of this. We will not see Clinton Portis dominate the league because of this. We will not get our defense OFF the field because of this. And last but not least Jason Campbell or whoever plays "Kewbie" will not be successful because of this. PERIOD.

Posted by: TheBornRedskin | August 5, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Snyderrato is so clueless; the money they spent on Heynesworth could have had 2-3 quality o-linemen. This great defense we're gonna have won't mean diddly if the offense can't score points, which will cause serious friction in the locker room if this struggling performance continues through this season.

I recall someone alluding to a Snyderrato conspiracy to make the offense fail badly as the excuse for getting rid of Zorn and Campbell, thus the intransigence improving the offensive line. As (partially) ludicrous that seemed at the time, it's looking more believable as the season nears.

This team has a front office that is starting to rival Detroit, Cincinnati and Oakland for ineptitude. If this team comes out the gate 0-3, averaging 12 pts a game thereabouts, It will be time to physically and verbally voice your displeasure at this front office by boycotting games and anything else Redskin.

Posted by: pdfordiii | August 5, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

I agree with most who say tha the "ooooooollld Train" needs to be but to rest. I can see if a guy is older and got cut because of salary and he's still has several years left, but we keep getting guys that have OBVIOUSLY slowed down CONSIDERABLY and are relying on them to be the anchors,e specially on the offensive line.

What the redskins need to do is to hire a staff where there WHOLE job is to developing younger players and project players. I mean, the younger players or marked project players should have almost a "baby-sit" type of schedule. That way they can work their way out of that group and be better for it. And if they dont get better, then cut them and make room for more promising players. I've never understood why professional sports dont do that. Yes some have Developmental leagues, but I mean within each team...that should be almost a cornerstone. You dont have to go to Europe to get stronger, faster, learn the playbook.

Posted by: impervious99 | August 5, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Good News - Bad News

The good news is that we have a good defensive line.

The bad news is that we have weak offensive line.

The report from training camp is that the defensive line looks great and the offensive line looks very weak.

The truth is that if both of these statements is true, then in reality the defensive line isn't as good as we think and that the offensive line isn't as bad as we think either.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 5, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

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What kind of double speak is this? The truth is the truth. I don't know how dominant the defensive line is going to be, but it potentially could be very dominant. The offensive line will do well to be adequate. That could potentially get us to the playoffs, but, alas, I don't think that will happen. An old beat up line is not going to find a fountain of youth all of a sudden. And, as has been pointed out, it's been this way for a few seasons now. We probably have a bottom 5 offensive line and Zorn, Bugel whomever can't do much about it. If we had added at least one other o lineman, I would feel like the FO at least gets it. Then there is always the last year's draft when we drafted three "receivers" in the second round when it should have been one receiver and two offensive lineman. We know how that brilliance has turned out so far!

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 5, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Snyderrato has always acquired players for the short term whereas offensive linemen are inherently long-term investments, of which they have no clue. A wide receiver or defensive lineman usually provide immediate, visible (thus TV/ratings friendly) impact, whereas the impact of a great offensive line takes time, both in a game and throughout a season.

The metaphor 'lipstick on a pig' is so twisted: we don't even have a young, capable hog to dress up. I know it's early, but not only can this team only pray for 10-6 next year, but may need to accept a couple around or below .500 years until the o-line can be championship caliber.

What a disjointed mess is the Snyderrato.

Posted by: pdfordiii | August 5, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

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