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O Linemen Tryouts

They are working out three of them - Kevin Sampson (the tackle who played for Saunders who we wrote about in the paper today. Tackle Calvin Armstrong, who was with the team in camp, is also supposed to be here. There is another guard/center who is supposed to be here, but not sure who that is just yet.

Mike Pucillo said he gets the feeling Casey Rabach is going to play Sunday, although everyone also figures that anything that could have possibly forced that dude to the sidelines must be pretty painful.

Former Skins O Lineman Ross "The Rooster" Tucker was also out here today. He still may need spinal fusion surgery this year and is doing rehab daily in Reston and doing a lot of media work as well. Ross said he has to get an edidoral in his neck this week and the doctors are taking a long look at surgery.

Still wondering why we don't give this dude a blog or something at - hint, hint - and this dude would be great on Washington Post Live as well, Comcast folks (hint, hint again).

The Skins are also bringing in some DBs to look at, but just to update their emergency lists should injuries occur down the stretch, and not with an eye towards a possible signing today, which is what the O Linemen are here for.

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 16, 2007; 11:14 AM ET
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Where's Ray Brown when we need him?!

Posted by: Pat | October 16, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Yeah we are in trouble.

Posted by: Skinz | October 16, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: 3rd | October 16, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Threve...Suck It Trebec

Posted by: Turd Ferguson | October 16, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Wherefore art thou, Will Whitticker?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 16, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

what about the guy vincent that demulling beat out a few weeks ago

Posted by: goterpz | October 16, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

'edidoral' in the neck. Classic, Jasno.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 16, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Vincent signed with the Cardinals from what I've been told.

Nate, good call, I asked that in an earlier thread about Whittacker.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 16, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

perhaps big Al can talk will shields out of retirement...fuel up Redskin-1 for a flight to KC!!!!

Posted by: goterpz | October 16, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Is jasno tryin to pawn the blog off on someone else? Cmon dude!

Posted by: nah | October 16, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Will "Panty" Shields?

Posted by: kotex | October 16, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Kinda interesting...Gibbs approval, yes or no? You have to scroll down a bit to get to skins. I found it interesting that they have the O ranked 3rd and the D 2nd.

Posted by: nah | October 16, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I'm also pretty sure they're bringing in Pepper Rodgers as a clock management consultant.

Posted by: spike_2.0 | October 16, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

In the same vein as "Invincible", I know a 21-year old kid that tends bar near me. He goes about 6'5" and is easily 280 and played for WVU. He only smokes a pack a day but I bet it would make for a great movie too.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 16, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Mark May and mark Schlereth both look to be in decent shape. Add Ray Brown, maybe Starke if he can put down the glass D and toss in Bosco and we might have something.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 16, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Why not pull some of those lard-butt Raider fans out of the stands in the "Black Hole" section. Hell, they already have their own pads.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 16, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse


What's the likelihood that a possible move for O-Line depth results in Randy Thomas hitting the IR this week? Who else could they afford to let go on the depth chart, at any position, in order to save Randy a spot for down the stretch? I just think the way things are going we will need him when he becomes available as we will probably be in the middle of the wild card chase come December. Then again why think about December when the team needs to get moving now.

Posted by: DCStraub | October 16, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse


If they sign and give a physical to an OLINEMAN s today, wow, three whole days to learn who to block on an improving Cardinal DLINE. Gee, could some of those mid round picks given away like Hallowe'en candy have been turned into decent backup OLinemen?

HERE'S the OLINE trouble in a nutshell. Joe and Buges have ALWAYS loved their vet linemen. They don't make mistakes, they learn fast, they don't panic. Watching the guy who played great in preseason, Heyer, get worked in a Real Game showed they have a point.

BUT with the mid round picks gone and the big cash going to idiots like Lloyd, Archuietta and overpaid-because-they-are-injury-prone guys like Portis, Moss and Springs, THERE ARE NO DECENT BACKUPS. So when a vet gets hurt, Joe has to go to a scrap heap of nobody-wants gathered by Vinnie Cerrato, who wouldn't know talent if it bit him in the keester.

Hey, some linemen get old when they turn 30. JANSEN NEVER got hurt until a couple years back and now he's always hurt. Same thing with Thomas. Rabach to follow?

And since no one on the team knows how to get these guys to stretch--or get them the right length cletes--older guys pull more muscles. Three OLINEMEN in one game? I've never heard of that before.

In REDSKIN WEATHER every shot of the Redskin bench is showing someone changing cletes or being treated for a muscle pull. The Redskins have more pulled groins than a porn star convention.

Okay a team with no OLINE vs one with no QB. I ay punt of fist down and let Gregg's boys win the game.

Posted by: CORKCZAR | October 16, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Wayne P. -- you don't want mark may on this team. He's too much of a candy a$$ these days. He'd get manhandled.

That guy loves the sound of his voice

Posted by: Go Skins Go | October 16, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

And by "ay" I mean "say" and by "fist" I mean "first." But y'now, not like Claiming to be first...Homey don't play that.

Posted by: CORKCZAR | October 16, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I smell a marketing opportunity here. We all know by now that Danny could care less about winning so why not just auction off slots on the O-line on e-bay. You mean to tell me that wouldn't be the most watched game this side of the Super Bowl? You could sell the commercial time for that game for 5 million per minute and sell out in a day.

What ever happened to Tre Thomas?

Is Dexter available?

How about Susan Kidd from NBC4? She could plow the road.

How about Matthew Perry? At the rate he's been gaining weight over the course of 'Friends' he should be a sumo wrestler by now.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 16, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Were the Redskins groins and hamstrings made in China?

Posted by: FW | October 16, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

On 10/9/07 Keydrick Vincent G was signed by Arizona. If we have to cut a player to bring on an extra O-lineman while sparing R Thomas from going on I-R, we would be better served to cut a DB or demote a WR. Any updates on R Thomas healing process?

Posted by: Gregskins | October 16, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

With the QB shortage in the league, what about dealing Brunell for a backup OL? Or start using Betts or trade him for a solid lineman. Why can't Cerrato ever pull of a move to help the team which last time I checked is the role of a GM.

Posted by: Greg Casey | October 16, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

It's a bye week for San Diego. Maybe the Redskins could borrow their offensive line this week?

Posted by: Springfield, VA | October 16, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: DONALD | October 16, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

What I want to know is why so many hamstring and groin injuries this year???? Is it a conditioning issue/stretching problem/something in the H2O?

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | October 16, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Why don't they trade Brunell for some quality O-linemen?

Posted by: DirtyHarry | October 16, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

With the QB shortage in the league, what about dealing Brunell for a backup OL? Or start using Betts or trade him for a solid lineman. Why can't Cerrato ever pull of a move to help the team which last time I checked is the role of a GM.

Posted by: Greg Casey | October 16, 2007 01:14 PM

Erm, probably because at this point of his career, Brunell is pretty much done for, man. There will be no Old Man Vinnying for the Jacksonville Blue. He's not just shagged out after a long squawk, nor is he pining for the Everglades, he's just snuffed it. For another team, it'd be like trading your yummy roast beef sandwich with carmelized onions and horseradish sauce for a bagful of E. Coli on a sesame seed bun. Just not happening.

And besides - given that it was the same Cerrato, Vinny that fell in hook, line and sinker for some of these egregious lopsided pick trades with the Broncos, I have my doubts as to his ability to foist a similar deal with another team.

Posted by: FlimFlam | October 16, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Are you sure you aren't Mark Plotkin?

Posted by: jamie | October 16, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Ok...obviously we have some new bloggers here and have perhaps started happy hour early...

First of all, you're not going to get a quality lineman for Brunell and with the way injuries are going around the whole league, everyone is trying to maintain depth.

Second, we had some nice depth, it's just that they've gotten hurt. It's just tough luck. You can't even keep the number of o-lineman we've lost on the roster, let alone draft 4 or 5 of them.

Aside from's the next man up...that's how this league is...

Look at how some of our defensive depth has worked out. Chris Wilson is coming on...Anthony Montgomery is coming on.... Demetric Evans even starts now...Leigh Torrence, David Macklin...

Give the FO a little credit.

Posted by: sicwidit | October 16, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Wow, it's hard to say which is the bigger disaster right now--the Skins' O-line or the Cards' QB situation. This weekend could be a game of entertainingly bad proportions.

Posted by: ChrisO | October 16, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

People always have this tendency to assign blame, when in reality sometimes bad stuff just happens. If anyone is to be blamed, it's the strength and conditioning coaches working for the Redskins.

I've said it before on RI, and I'll say it again: NO TEAM can afford to lose as many O-linemen as the Redskins have, and still field a productive offense. Not even the Patriots could lose 5 starters and backups on their line without nosediving on offense.

No team has that kind of depth. Did you watch the Eagles-Giants game where their backup "young guy" got used as a turnstile by Osi Umenyiora? That's what can happen when you're a team that builds through the draft, and you are forced to play those middle-round backup young guys. So please stop blaming this one on the front office. Save your griping for the Brandon Lloyds of the team.

Posted by: jcabana | October 16, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Apropos of nothing, but to try to make you all feel a little better, let it be said that I am confidently predicting that New England will lose their unbeaten record this week, against my decrepit winless Dolphins.

So with that, let no-one ever again call someone out as a 'Kool-Aid drinking homer' on this blog for forecasting a winning season for the Skins! You guys wouldn't believe the thickness of the rose-coloured glasses I have to wear to make that prediction!

Posted by: Redcoat | October 16, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Jcabana, the field was slick which causes groin/hamstring injuries. Sadly, it happened to us. If we are healthy on the line we would be 5-0, guarantee it, but, we ar enow 3-2, just like everyone thought.

Posted by: Burg w/ a U | October 16, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Well now we know why the skins are looking at dbs today. Ron Springs is in a coma and Shawn has left the team to be at his father's side.

Posted by: james | October 16, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I saw a few trades today. Chambers from Miami, the WR was sent to San Diego. M. Bennet, the former speedster RB with the Vikings, most recently back-up to L Johnson in Kansas City was sent to the Bucs. Let's hope our line needed only minimal band-aids this week and can play through the pain. I strongly believe Santana Moss should consider changing his offseason work-out regimen. Maybe get him a trainer to work with his technique and strengthen/condition those hamstrings. It could be hereditary cause' his little bro with the Gints' regularly pulls his. Maybe Gary Clark could give em' some pointers. Dude used to play through the same pain constantly but willed himself on the field a la S Moss.

Posted by: Gregskins | October 16, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Don't you mean Tre Johnson? I heard he got fat.

And nice joke about Friends, loser. Quit watching woman shows and maybe you'll stop embarassing yourself on this blog.

Posted by: Jerkstore | October 16, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

The O-line is coming undone, its attributable to Murphy's Law-"What can go
wrong, will go wrong." Looking at the big
picture, the Team does not have good
"Karma", quick fixes do not work for
this team.

Posted by: George Costanza | October 16, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Rabach just spoke and seems optimistic he'll play Sunday. Good!

Posted by: Gregskins | October 16, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

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