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Offensive Coordinator Evaluates His Group

With quarterback Jason Campbell and the starters expected to play only sparingly in Thursday's preseason finale in Jacksonville, offensive coordinator Sherman Smith has seen most of what he's going to see from the first-team offense. His assessment: The potential for improvement over last year -- major improvement -- is there.

"I think what we just showed -- even in the Pittsburgh game, and it continued even more this past Friday -- is we're capable of protecting the quarterback, and when we protect the quarterback, Jason can make every throw," Smith said after practice Sunday. "We got guys that can get open, and when we're persistent in the run game we can be productive in that. I think we're showing what we want to show."

That, though, doesn't mean that all is perfect in Smith's world. Top running back Clinton Portis, who has been a regular at practice in the preseason, has only 11 carries for 34 yards in the two exhibition games in which he has played, and Coach Jim Zorn said earlier Sunday Portis would not play against Jacksonville. Therefore, the running game -- though effective at times, particularly in a long drive against Pittsburgh -- has had an uneven flow.

"Might as well not be concerned about it, because it is what it is," Smith said. "He hasn't gotten a lot of reps this offseason, but he usually doesn't. It's just one of those situations where you say, 'Hey, let's see how it works out.' What we're doing is we're just trying to get ready, inevitably. If he does go down, Ladell, Rock, Marcus -- those guys will be ready to play."

Smith, though, said he would like to see better blocking up front in the run game, too.

"Definitely room for improvement," he said. "No question. It's like [offensive line coach Joe Bugel] says, the three things to do [are] we want to be smart, physical and violent. Up front that's what we want them to do, with Mike Sellers leading and showing them how a fullback's supposed to play. We can get better. We did some good things, but we can get better. We're not satisfied."

One area where the line has performed well has been in pass protection. After Campbell was sacked 38 times last year, he has not been sacked in the preseason.

"We've worked on it," Smith said. "And we have guys that can do it, pass protection is team concept-oriented. We tell the wide receivers, 'It's not just the linemen and the backs. It's you guys running good routes. That's pass protection.' We tell the rest of the guys, 'Hey, what difference does it make if those guys get open and you don't protect?' It's a total team thing.

"I think we'll be better. I think we'll be more consistent. We've still got plenty of room for improvement, believe me, but I think we'll get there."

By Barry Svrluga  |  August 30, 2009; 6:00 PM ET
 
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Comments

My lucky day!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 30, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or does he sound pissed that Portis doesn't play more in the preseason?

Posted by: rickyroge | August 30, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Some miss the point; it was about scoring - or at times lack thereof - not which team the Redskins beat.

If it makes them feel better though, I'll phrase it this way:

When the Redskins beat Dallas 9-5 on MNF in 1978, it was just as enjoyable as when they beat them 35-7 in '05.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | August 30, 2009 6:04 PM |

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | August 30, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

kevin o connell got released

Posted by: rachel216 | August 30, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Mason ova Betts!

C'mon Redskins..Do we really think Betts woulda scored that TD run agains't the Pats.

Mason is oodles better at short yardage gains than Betts. More powerful too.

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I used to think that the Skins needed to score 20 points a game to win. With protection and some new WR's, I think we can do it (all BIG ifs)...

BUT...I'm concerned with our secondary. I know it was the Pats...but I'm still worried

Posted by: rickyroge | August 30, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Most questions, I believe, have already been answered:

Receivers:
1) Moss
2) Kelly
3) rotate Thomas, Marko and ARE (keep ARE out of the game as much as possible, he is a nice guy, but seems never, EVER to contribute when needed)

QB:
1)JC
2)Collins
3)Daniel

RB:
1)CP
2)Mason

no need to keep Colt around, the guy is going to lose games for us if ever given the opportunity. There QB's who win game for u on their own and ones who lose them for u on their own, Colt is of the latter group)
Feel free to cut Betts.

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 30, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I hope we see at least a few first team series against Jacksonville.

I think J.C. and those receivers (Malcolm Kelly, maps, and such as) could use some more game situation synchronization.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 30, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

" If he does go down, Ladell, Rock, Marcus -- those guys will be ready to play."

Well, he just gave it away that Mason made the team...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 30, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Quote from Sherman Smith(skins OC)

Might as well not be concerned about it, because it is what it is," Smith said. "He hasn't gotten a lot of reps this offseason, but he usually doesn't. It's just one of those situations where you say, 'Hey, let's see how it works out.' What we're doing is we're just trying to get ready, inevitably. If he does go down, Ladell, Rock, Marcus -- those guys will be ready to play."================Does this mean that he expects Portis, Betts,Cartwright and Mason to be on the 53 man roster?

Posted by: pennstate1 | August 30, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

When the Redskins beat Dallas 9-5 on MNF in 1978, it was just as enjoyable as when they beat them 35-7 in '05.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | August 30, 2009 6:04 PM |


Posted by: MrRedskin21 | August 30, 2009 6:07 PM |

I still think you're wrong, an a$$ stomping is way more better than eeking out a win.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 30, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Does 'maps' equal the new 'yada yada' ? I've seen the lingo, 'maps', used in several different contexts, making it impossible for non-mainstream folk to figure out the meaning?

Is slang still used as a covert language for hustlers to avoid trouble with the law or has it evolved to a measuring stick for the I'm-cool-o-meter?

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Wow I sounded "tarded" in that last statement-"way more better"

oh and PennSt1...you and me buddy...same page

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 30, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I think ARE is the #3 WR. As a #2 WR, he's a bit out of his league. From my #3 WR, I'd be thrilled with 600 yards, 4 TDs plus another 50 yards and 1 TD on 4 passes -- which is what he did last year.

I'm also guessing the coaches would prefer to have 1 youngster paired with the 2 vets in most of the 3 WR packages.

Plus, ARE won't be returning punts (I hope), so he should be better at WR.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 30, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Holy DeSean Jackson...did anyone see Hakeem Nick's numbers this week?

If he keeps that up, the only guys who could keep him from becoming their new Plaxico Burress are Smith & Wesson.

Posted by: TheCork | August 30, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

“Daniel's height (he's generously listed at 6 feet in the Redskins media guide) could cap his potential in this league…”—RI The Mayor

Maybe the sports dept at the Post should compare notes. Someone, I believe it was Steinbog, said he was EXACTLY 6’0”

Also, would LOVE to know actual height of Tryon.

Posted by: TheCork | August 30, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I think the Fincher "CUT" is foreshadowing for ROC!!!

Zorn's Quote: ""I don't want to take anything away from Fincher because he's worked really hard, and he has improved," Zorn said. "But to us there was kind of a ceiling there on him compared to some of the other guys that are coming on.""

Mason, unpack your backs your finally made the FINAL 53!!! Congrats

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 30, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Does 'maps' equal the new 'yada yada' ? I've seen the lingo, 'maps', used in several different contexts, making it impossible for non-mainstream folk to figure out the meaning?
...
Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 6:34 PM |
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Maps refers to Miss Teen South Carolina, honorary somethingess of R.I.

And such as.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 30, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

People saying "Daniel is too short to be any good" are crazy. If he was a statue in the pocket like Drew Bledsoe, I could see that. Dude showed in the Steeler game he's got wheels and he is one of the most athletic QBs to put on a Redskins uniform. Plus he showed ability to deliver the ball accurately and, you know, to guys wearing REDSKIN uniforms. I don't see how you justify cutting Daniel to keep a kid who has some personality but has a propensity to throw pick 6s.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 30, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Thunder

"I think J.C. and those receivers (Malcolm Kelly, maps, and such as) could use some more game situation synchronization."


I agree.

I'd like to see the triplets--Mitchell, Kelly, Thomas--working together while Cooley/Moss and the former stiller on the roster watch.

The triplets might be our big, fast future---let's embrace it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 30, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

UNBELIEVABLE, APPARENTLY THE "HOODIE" makes draft mistakes too, cutting the backup QB O'Connell ( 3rd Rd pick ) a 1 1/2 yrs later..

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 30, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Maps refers to Miss Teen South Carolina, honorary somethingess of R.I.

And such as.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya


lmao. I bet she's never heard of the missionary position. time for a cigarette break, be back in a quickie.

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

The triplets might be our big, fast future---let's embrace it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 30, 2009 6:52 PM |
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At least some of those 3 must work out. We'll still have a future, in any case...but we might not like it if they don't.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 30, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

CORK: Doug Flutie was 5-9 Sonny J just under six feet beleive me Chase has got that "something" an intangible that certain QB's posses in watching him play against the Steelers and at Mizzou while he was in college Chase Daniel knows how to play the position and his lack of height has not detered him one bit,the kid can play.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 30, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

That move Mitchell put on the DB on his TD catch was sick!!! Mitchell seems like he is very quick and can run routes for a 6'-4" dude.

Keep Mason, cut Rock, insert DT at KR and #5WR, elevate Mitchell to wherever he see's the field period

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Twisi, You have no clue what you are talking about...... Have you ever played football before on any level including little league? How do you know that Mason missed two blocks in pass protection? are you in the meeting room with the coaches? Did you know the plays that were called or the protections? Just to throw out that he missed two blocks is funny. Are you a relative of Rock?

Posted by: thebanker21 | August 30, 2009 4:09 PM

This is the type of BS post that has so much sh#t in it that I don't know where to start. First, I really have no vested interest on who's on the team, except that they are the 53 best that give the skins a chance to have a successful season. Second, if you watched the game and had any understanding of football, you to would have seen Mason give up pressure to a blitzing CB, causing JC to get flushed out of the pocket. You also would have seen Mason release out of the back field with a blitzing LB coming free even though Mason wasn't the hot receiver on that play. Do I need to break down those concepts to you? Or do you think you can figure it out for yourself? BTW I think the skins could very well keep 4 RB and 1 FB on the 53 man team. Do you need help in sorting that out how that might happen as well?

Posted by: TWISI | August 30, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

michael_b_clegg,

I thought the 'HOODIE' had a GM picking his players?

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Do you need help in sorting that out how that might happen as well?

Posted by: TWISI | August 30, 2009 7:11 PM |

Yes, please post how many of which positions are typically kept on the 53 man roster. i have a good idea but I'm not 100% sure. Thank you and have a nice day.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 30, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

can't wait to see Cutler play against denver. the place is gonna boo so loud.

Vicc- agreed. Mitchell looks like a pro, he always looks like he knows what he's doing, even if it's against 3rd stringers. Hope to see him with the first team on thursday.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 30, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey lavararrington:

I guess the coaching staff knows nothing about evaluating talent either. CLARK played out of position and hurt, admirable traits. But he played like a stiff. The "SKINS had no choice. That doesn't mean he won't play in the NFL eventually. He has talent. It just wasn't his time and place man.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 30, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Here you go scampbell1975

3 QB (JC, TC, CB)
4 RB (CP, LB, MM, AA)
1 FB (MS)
9 OL (CS,DD,CR,RT,SH,JB,MW,WM, OL pick up)
3 TE (CC, FD, TY)
5 WR (SM,DT,ARE, MK, MM)

8 DL (AC,CG,AH,RD,KG,AM, JJ, LA)
7 LB (RC, LF, BO, HBB, RT, CW, CG)
5 CB (DH, CR, FS, JT, KB)
4 S (LL, CH, RD, KM)

4 ST (DR, HS, RC)

Posted by: TWISI | August 30, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

rachel216,

As wrong as this sounds, I've heard Mitchell talk and he went to Nevada(i think they're part of the WAC) so i think he didn't exactly have a privileged childhood--to put it delicately--and he's playing like he wants to earn some money; Crabtree could learn something here.

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

lemme also add that the 'Skins should learn that by building through the draft, you inherent young, hungry athletes trying to earn that cake! And their play reflects that..

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Vince Young is the backup QB for the Titans. That makes Patrick Ramsey #3, assuming they don't cut him.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 30, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

roster positions that are tied or close should go to the new guys - Rayner over Suischem and Aldridge/Dorsey over Cartwright. Thank goodness Thrash is gone cause he would have cost Marko a roster spot.

Posted by: coparker5 | August 30, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

...I guess the coaching staff knows nothing about evaluating talent either...

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 30, 2009 7:22 PM


oh you don't know? There is only 1 talent evaluator..jus ask brownwood26.

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

TWSI

Most teams only keep 3 special teamers (K, P, and LS)- punt and kick returners come from other positions.

Also, most teams keep 9 DL, because they rotate so much.

2 FBs is typical for teams that regularly use a FB. Skins only had Sellers last year - and Cooley & Yoder both played some fullback, so there is flexibility there.

3 Running backs is also more typical than 4. But if TE's can double as FBs, then you could keep a 4th RB.

And before anyone asks, I have never played organized football, but I am a student of the game.

I also am an expert in Revolutionary War history, although I admit that I did not actually fight in the war....

Posted by: Wemiss21 | August 30, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

VICC,

The Hoodie dictates who he wants......

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 30, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

or you can ask Cork also

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Colt would be a waste of roster spot IMHO

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 30, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone foresee a near future when we have Kelly, Thomas and Mitchell as the receiving monsters?

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 30, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Wemiss,

Please remove yourself from RI, and onto some Revolutionary blog... Most teams DO NOT keep 2 Fullbacks...I like your spirit, but a 3rd TE typically is an H-back/Fullback split.. There was talk in mini-camp about keeping 4 RB's... ( all in good spirit wemiss )

HTTR,

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 30, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Mason will be cut.

Posted by: BMACattack | August 30, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Colt would be a waste of roster spot IMHO

Posted by: peaceful2008


How would your arrogant opinion phrase it?

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Vicc lookin to stir it up?

You don't ask Cork or Brownwood anything. You tell 'em. And they say "yes, sir." That's how it works up here.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 30, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

"...Miss Teen South Carolina..."

Did you see her photo?

Raise you hand if you think it's important that that chick has brains?

That lil girl is fine.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 30, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Wemiss21 good points. Agreed w/ the 9 DL in most cases, but with Orakpo and Wilson playing hybrid they can actually carry 8 "DL". The hybrids actually frees up a spot to over stock a position (RB). Also there is usually a debate between 5 or 6 WRs on the roster. If the skins carry only 5 WR, they can carry an extra player at another position (RB) if they choose to do so.

Posted by: TWISI | August 30, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

VICC,

too funny.... are you call cork opinionated? :-)

Disappointed in Texas and can't see the game Thurs night... Haven't seen any replays on the NFL Network scheduled either.. Thank goodness for XM Radio.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 30, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Moe,

Please change your IP Adress calling a "MISS TEEN" ( which typically means, she is a TEEN ) "that lil girl is fine".... just about pee'd my pants....

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 30, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Jason, Better coverage last few days. You have to read these post, Great job,
Tommy

Posted by: tjzukoski | August 30, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

peaceful2008

"Can anyone foresee a near future when we have Kelly, Thomas and Mitchell as the receiving monsters?"

I'd answer, "Hell yeah!" but since you fake like you are the blog's moral police, our own Lester Freaman, I'll ignore your post, 5-0h.

And we're still waiting for you to light it up with some of your clean, family friendly posting.

You are still on the clock, son.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 30, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

"...Miss Teen South Carolina..."

Did you see her photo?

Raise you hand if you think it's important that that chick has brains?

That lil girl is fine.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 30, 2009 7:53 PM |

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I personally believe that US-Americans should raise their hands such as to help the posters on RI have a feel good such as our future.

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 30, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Vicc lookin to stir it up?

Posted by: talent_evaluator


Yea, with Miss Teen South Carolina! She's on my 'to do' list?

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Thanx guys, those are all very similar to what I had. Just wanted to make sure I was on the right track. I do notice some teams differ slightly in terms of amounts of QB's, WR's, RB's, and Dline.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 30, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

CLEGG,

Can I be on both blogs?

I just figured the Skins drafted a FB with the intention of keeping him. And I do not think they planned on cutting Sellers. So Eddie Williams might end up on the Practice Squad, but I will place my bet now and say that he makes the 53 man roster and we keep 2 FBs.

However, I also think they will keep 4 RBs (Mason!). I predict the extra roster spot will come from cutting Yoder or (as TWSI smartly pointed out) from taking advantage of the Hybrid LB/DE and keeping only 8 on the DL.

Posted by: Wemiss21 | August 30, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

clegg

"MISS TEEN" ( which typically means, she is a TEEN ) "that lil girl is fine".... just about pee'd my pants...."


In South Florida, all female teens are '...lil girls...'.

Down here, you look at lil girls and give big girls you paycheck.

I got three lil girls, the oldest one is a junior at UF.

But the '...peed my pants...' thing, dude, that's so funny that when I read it, I just about, well, peed my pants.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 30, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

How about cutting Colt and Chase, then putting one of them on the Practice Squad?

I mean ARE can be the emergency QB and that would free up another roster spot...

A couple of teams start every year with only 2 QBs on the 53 man roster.

Posted by: Wemiss21 | August 30, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe let me make it up to you:

check out Caitlin Upton (miss SC 2007) in Pork and Beans music video (about 1 minute into it...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muP9eH2p2PI

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 30, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

"I personally believe that US-Americans should raise their hands such as to help the posters on RI have a feel good such as our future."

If you can read this, blame your English teacher.

If you can't, thank him.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 30, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

9 OL (CS,DD,CR,RT,SH,JB,MW,WM, OL pick up)
Posted by: TWISI | August 30, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Is CR Rabach or Rinehart?

Both are playing well. I think you have overlooked one or the other.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 30, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Moe, where r u? she also comes back towards the end....

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 30, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

frediefritz

I mean Rabach. I didn't really overlook Rinehart. I think a need for a back up left tackle bumps him off the active roster. Also I think Rinehart is still eligible for the practice squad this year.

Posted by: TWISI | August 30, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

frediefritz

I mean Rabach. I didn't really overlook Rinehart. I think a need for a back up left tackle bumps him off the active roster. Also I think Rinehart is still eligible for the practice squad this year.

Posted by: TWISI | August 30, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse
I disagree. I think Rinehart has been beasting, will make 53.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 30, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

TWISI- nice work I think you did a great job, 1 or 2 I disagree with on but good info overall.

does anyone know where to get the information or rules on the practice squad, I don't think anybody that played last year can get on it?

Posted by: stivic | August 30, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

typed 2 fast- anybody that played on the active roster I do not think is eligible for the practice squad.

Posted by: stivic | August 30, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Wemiss,

No way we keep 6 RB's ( 4 RB's 2 FB's )... not a chance. Williams heading to practice squad at best. Sellers is beginning to age a bit, but has a year or two left in him.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 30, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I mean Rabach. I didn't really overlook Rinehart. I think a need for a back up left tackle bumps him off the active roster. Also I think Rinehart is still eligible for the practice squad this year.

Posted by: TWISI | August 30, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse
I disagree. I think Rinehart has been beasting, will make 53.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 30, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't think MWilliams makes the original 53. He might be signed later in the season, but he's not ready to play right now.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 30, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Yea, with Miss Teen South Carolina! She's on my 'to do' list?

Posted by: Vicc | August 30, 2009 8:02 PM |

Yeah, and I'm sure you're on hers.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 30, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't see Colt making this team not after these last two weeks and for the last timr Rock makes this team, PERIOD! maybe Mason or Alridge go to the practice squad but you can't cut Rock he is a special teams stalwart he and Reed Doughty are key to that squad.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 30, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Each NFL team may keep up to eight members on their "practice squad" in addition to their 53-member main roster. They consist mostly of rookies who were cut in training camps and borderline NFL-caliber players. Both rookies and young veterans are eligible for the practice squad. However, a player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons, or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience (six or more games on a club's 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.) If the player was on the active list for fewer that 9 games during their "only Accrued Season(s)", they maintain their eligibility for the practice squad[1].
Practice squad players practice alongside regular roster players during the week, but they are not allowed to play in actual games. They can be paid considerably less than active squad players: The minimum salary from 2008 to 2010 is $5,200 per week (2008-2010)[2] for 17 weeks, or $88,400 per season, in comparison to the NFL minimum rookie salary of $285,000. (Some practice squad players are paid considerably more, however. In 2006, the New England Patriots paid third-year player Billy Yates the full $425,000 he would have earned on the active roster.)[3]
Players can be promoted to the active roster of their current team or to that of any other team. They have free agent status and can sign with any team they wish without compensation to the original team.

Posted by: stivic | August 30, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

t_E is like a cold shower after spraining your ankle on a hiking trip.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 30, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

You can not judge talent just by one game when it comes to Chase Daniel. Colt is a much better QB.

Posted by: SkinzVA73 | August 30, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

You can not judge talent just by one game when it comes to Chase Daniel. Colt is a much better QB.

Posted by: SkinzVA73 | August 30, 2009 9:06 PM |

What are you basing your evaluation on? College?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 30, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Any RI with Miss Teen South Carolina is my kind of RI.

Thanks for the Wheezer vid link. Miss Teen South Carolina with a lightsaber is even better.

Posted by: farstriker | August 30, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Man everytime i see Jay Cutler play...The kid is flat out BALLIN. Just sayin..

Posted by: leevi98 | August 30, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

We don't need any games to evaluate players up here. We just need the dude's name and we can go from there. His alma mater helps, too, but it's not critical. Give us a name, we'll get to evaluatin'

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 30, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 30, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

We don't need any games to evaluate players up here. We just need the dude's name and we can go from there. His alma mater helps, too, but it's not critical. Give us a name, we'll get to evaluatin'

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 30, 2009 9:43 PM

Sh!t, sometimes just initials will do.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 30, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell is going to the pro bowl in January. Mark my words.

Posted by: Barno1 | August 30, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

jason campbell in the pro bowl ?

ahead of Eli, Romo, McNabb, Brees, Cutler, Favre, Ryan , Delhomme

yeah, that's about to happen..

Posted by: shally | August 30, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

jason campbell in the pro bowl ?

ahead of Eli, Romo, McNabb, Brees, Cutler, Favre, Ryan , Delhomme

yeah, that's about to happen..

Posted by: shally | August 30, 2009 10:18 PM

I don't believe I've seen you around these parts before. This was your grand splash onto the blog. What a doosh. And yes, Campbell way ahead of Romo and Eli, and McChoke.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 30, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

When I saw Brett Favre as a rookie in Atlanta, he was the same way and the Falcons cut him. Look how he turned out later...

Posted by: KurtShanaman | August 30, 2009 7:20 PM

This may have already been covered, but...

After one season with the Falcons, Favre was traded to the Green Bay Packers on February 10, 1992, for the 19th pick in the 1992 NFL Draft.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 30, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Delhomme, Mr. 5 interception in a playoff game. That guy sucks. Aaron Rodgers is better than any of those guys named except Brees.

Who cares about the pro bowl. Just throw 20-25 TD's and I will be happy with JC.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | August 30, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

drew brees is ridiculous...best qb in the game i think, or at least i like him better than manning/brady.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 30, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

You and I may agree on something cL.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 30, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I couldn't care less about who makes the Pro Bowl in any given season, since the selection process is such a joke.

Moreover, I think we're finally getting to a place where the public consensus is that number of Pro Bowls has no correlation to quality of play over the course of a career.

Which is to say, I agree with my esteemed colleague Mr. Stinkston above, that we the fans will know if Soup has a good season, and we sure as hell won't be waiting breathlessly for the Pro Bowl slots to be announced to validate our opinions of his play.

Or somethin'

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 30, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Manning (like Brady) are old news ... in the words of James Carville "like an old calenduh".

Brees is the top of the heap now. I say Ryan is maybe only a step or two behind. Helps to have WRs you've been throwing to for a while still on your roster.

Posted by: dcsween | August 30, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Also top QB material in Carson Palmer.

Posted by: dcsween | August 30, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Or somethin'

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 30, 2009 11:08 PM

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Precisely.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 30, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Here's my two cents:

I look at Jason this year and I see Mark Rypien circa 1991.

Rypien (6'4, 231 lbs) was entering his fourth season.

Campbell (6'5", 223 lbs) is entering his fourth season.

The biggest stats difference between them over the first three years of their careers is that Rypien had thrown significantly more TDs, and significantly more INTs.

There's no sign that Jason's 2009 team is near as strong as Ryp's in 1991, which went 14-2 and won the Super Bowl.

But I don't think it's a LOT worse. This is not a bad package of players we have, if'n the rookies and second-years contribute.

So maybe Jason won't end up as Super Bowl MVP, the way Ryp did--but playoffs, Pro Bowls--and cracking 20 TDS--seem not at all unlikely.

It's actually kind of logical, ain't it? The man has statistically improved each season, thus far. One more step up the QB ladder, and he's carrying the Skins to the playoffs.

Posted by: farstriker | August 30, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Put me in the column for Redskins deep in the playoffs and JC in Probowl.

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 30, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

It's actually kind of logical, ain't it? The man has statistically improved each season, thus far. One more step up the QB ladder, and he's carrying the Skins to the playoffs.

Posted by: farstriker | August 30, 2009 11:39 PM |
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There's a lot to being a good football team, including the Offensive Line, maps, and such as.

But I like what you're saying, and I believe in the power of positive drinking.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 30, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Watched a replay of that Giants-Jets game. Everybody says you're supposed to pay attention to the third preseason game, so I did.

The Giants insist they don't need any help in the passing game? Eli went 9 for 21 for 91 yards. One TD, 8 yards to a running back, and an INT. David Carr got most of the yardage and TDs, and nobody's relying on him to start the season. Ahmad Bradshaw can definitely run, but he doesn't look all that interested in picking up some of those 40 receptions that Derrick Ward provided last season.

If that had been Washington, the fanz would be calling for Eli's head on a pointed stick.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 30, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget the whatnot, ITTDGY--we need lots of whatnot, too.

Posted by: farstriker | August 31, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

OK HERE ARE THE SHOCKER CUTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN FOR US TO GROW!!!
Cartwright, D. Thomas can do it and we need the spot for Mason at RB!!
Antwan RE should be at best the 5th wide receiver, Im not convinced that Marko Mitch should not get more run with the first team...
Betts is not a threatening second back we thought he would become, it may be time to move on. As I look around the league, there exist many better 2nd backs. Check Dallas they have three...and that hurts to say...
Mike Williams..Please not this year, find more OLine help from the wire or something PLEASE!!

PAY MIKE SELLERS....he doesnt have to be the richest but should be in the top ten of FB's....Portis/Betts until 2011!! Support That!

Posted by: seanjo93 | August 31, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

YOU GUYS MAKE ME SICK..CHASE HAS ONE GOOD QUARTER AND EVERYBODY SAYS CUT COLT. REMEMBER BRETT FAVRE??? THAT'S WHAT THEY DID TO HIM IN ATLANTA AND LOOK WHAT HE DID!!! GET REAL PEOPLE!!!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | August 31, 2009 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Neither of them are that great...Colt thought he made it because of some of you sick fans who say he should start over JC because of PRESEASON last year, CHILDPLEASE, think about that!! and please take the conversation away from the 3rd string qb who will not see the field this year or next, BELIEVE THAT!!

We live or die with JC, Coach Zorn's playcalling, Smoots yards between him and any WR he is covering, Rogers dropped INT's, O Line Injury or just getting tired and old..and our ability to play the best players on the field not the nice gentleman or true redskins....

Posted by: seanjo93 | August 31, 2009 12:17 AM | Report abuse

to scampbell 1975:

before this screed even existed, the WaPo actually had fans site that attracted a lot of quality posters.. some of the older posters here might remember me from then.
i was a regular and spent a great deal of time here.
when the Post shut that site down, most of us moved on to other fan sites. i still read the WaPo and check Insiders, but most of the time i dont bother commenting. i thought your comment to be so unrealistic that it needed a response. sorry to have offended
you, please feel free to post whatever
pops into your head, whether it is based upon
reasoned thinking, or just plain wishes and hopes..also, know that people who need to resort to ad hominem attacks and name calling
just appear juvenile

Posted by: shally | August 31, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

hate to see Fincher cut because he was hitter and was a pretty sure tackler from what I saw of him. I wish him good luck and maybe a practice squad signee for us. I also think the skins might be trying to avoid paying him a higher minimum since he has been in the league for awhile. I sure hope that is not the reason but you must play the best guys on the field (rookie potential my a**). btw, I hope Zorn realizes that he has to bring it (playbook wise) in the Giants game. Don't go running that bullsh*t candy a** crap. HAIL SKINS!

Posted by: jenksredskins | August 31, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Manning (like Brady) are old news ... in the words of James Carville "like an old calenduh".

Brees is the top of the heap now. I say Ryan is maybe only a step or two behind. Helps to have WRs you've been throwing to for a while still on your roster.

Posted by: dcsween

Ryan takes a step back in 2009. So does Brees. They might be better players, but their schedules are much much tougher. Last year, they played the AFC West and NFC North. AFC West was terrible, top to bottom, in defense. NFC North was average defensively. This year, no AFC West, plus the NFC East. That's 8 games that will ALL be tougher than they had last year. In the case of ATL, it might be all 10 non-division games that are tougher.

Brees is great and I think Ryan will be a somewhere between good and great in this league, but 2009 might not be as good for either of them.

As for Brees being better than Brady or Manning, ummmm, maybe. It is clear they are 1, 2 and 3. The last 2 MVPs are named Brady and Manning.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 31, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell will be playing the pro bowl in January.

Posted by: Barno1 | August 31, 2009 2:35 AM | Report abuse

Okay, that prediction is duly noted, Barno.

But could you flesh it out a bit by explainin' what kind of season you predict Jason to have in order to land that Pro Bowl spot?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 31, 2009 2:41 AM | Report abuse

And I should make it clear, in case you're not already aware of this, that I'm a staunch Jason Campbell backer. Ready to be proven right for remaining faithful to him all these years.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 31, 2009 2:46 AM | Report abuse

shally shall: i remember the old site and can vouch for you. u no how it is: urban renewal and gentrification arrive and the newcomers band together and think they can own the neighborhood just cuz they can afford to buy the house or whatever... i personally think the old format was better cuz it sent messages to yr email when somebody answered one of your remarks...

Posted by: dcjazzman | August 31, 2009 2:53 AM | Report abuse

YES! put campbell in the shotgun, run a 2-minute warning offense occasionally and put two of those tall young receivers on the field with santana every play and watch our attack sing. but we still need better blocking (pass and run). somebody in a different blog noted that patriot quarterbacks had an average of abt 6 seconds to throw while our guy had 3.8. we need to be able to hold the blocks better or find/coach somebody with the strength to knock down his opponent once in a while.

Posted by: dcjazzman | August 31, 2009 3:06 AM | Report abuse

I don't know who this Tracee Hamilton is, but I'm not a fan...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2009 6:17 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell will be playing the pro bowl in January.

Posted by: Barno1 | August 31, 2009 2:35 AM

Forget that. What will be the price of Intel's stock in January?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 31, 2009 6:47 AM | Report abuse

beep

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 31, 2009 6:50 AM | Report abuse

How realistic is the thought of beginning the game planning for the Giants this week, w/ the starters getting 75% of the reps in practice?

Posted by: bernard_thompson | August 31, 2009 7:23 AM | Report abuse

I read a number of posts..and have decided there are quite a few writers who think they know a lot more about football than they do.
Everything on the offense is based on the success of the running game. Once a team knows that it has stopped the run..they really go after the QB. Other than some good running on 1 drive against the Steelers..our first team has not run the ball at all.
Portis looked slow..and could not break through the D line. Betts, is no faster.
Both Mason and Alridge, have that speed.
The Skins will need to throw on running downs..and sometimes run on passing downs.

The running game is the key here to putting points on the board. They must be able to run well enough to make the opponent respect the run.
If not, than they need to decide to throw on almost every down..swing passes..etc. plays designed to pick up 5-7 yards. Having, say second and three, is much better than second and nine!!

Posted by: blazerguy234 | August 31, 2009 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Wow Campbell's great all of a sudden. At least that's what the Post says after 1 meaningless practice game. Did someone actually comment here that he's better than McNabb?? Give it a break already Deadskins fans - Campbell's average at best. Just like the team with the exception of Cooley and a really under-rated Chris Horton. I also think that fat criminal Haynesworth that they over-spent on, that intentionally tried to hurt Brady, is a jerk like most of the guys Snyder picks up - surprised T.O. isn't on the roster - there's still time yet as he's already worn out is "welcome" in Buffalo. The Bandwagon's a bit early this year in Washington.

Posted by: billm32 | August 31, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

UNBELIEVABLE, APPARENTLY THE "HOODIE" makes draft mistakes too, cutting the backup QB O'Connell ( 3rd Rd pick ) a 1 1/2 yrs later..

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 30, 2009 6:58 PM | Report


No team is right on all of the picks, even high ones. That being said, I would rather the skins get rid of a bad draft pick so someone better can make the team than keep the guy around so it doesnt look like you picked the wrong guy. Time is gonna show it was a bad pick at some point anyway.

Posted by: scottmando | August 31, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

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