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Mike Shanahan: Entire offense did not play well

Regardless of whether Donovan McNabb or Rex Grossman is on the field, the Redskins' offensive line must provide better protection than it did during Sunday's 37-25 loss to the Detroit Lions.

The Lions had seven sacks and 12 quarterback hits. Defensive linemen Kyle Vanden Bosch, Ndamukong Suh and Cliff Avril each had two sacks.

On Grossman's first play from scrimmage this season, he fumbled while being sacked (the Lions also sacked McNabb six times) and Suh, who has been among the league's top defensive players seven games into his rookie season, returned the ball 17 yards for a clinching touchdown. McNabb has been sacked 22 times - the second-highest total in the NFL.

"We just didn't do a good job," rookie left tackle Trent Williams said.

That much was obvious. The Redskins faced too many situations that required receivers to run long routes and, consequently, effective pass protection for longer than Shanahan would have preferred, Shanahan said.

"Well, you have to take a look at the whole game," Shanahan said Monday. "You look at our third-down situation, I'm not sure if we were ever in a situation, or I've been in a situation, where we had as many third-and-longs. Normally, it's third and two, third and three. This game, it was third and 18, third and 15.

"We had too many penalties. We made too many mistakes on offense. That's why I was saying it was embarrassing relative to how we played as a whole. Any time you go on the road, and you expect to win, you can't have those penalties, you can't have those mistakes, that put you in those long-yardage situations all the time."

By Jason Reid  | November 1, 2010; 6:48 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb, Mike Shanahan, Offensive line, Rex Grossman  
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Comments

You'd have a few less mistakes if you never put The Human Turnover in the game in the FIRST place...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I get that wins-losses is all that matter in the end, but there's a reason a 4-3 team was a 3 point dog to a 1-5 team.

It looks like luck, and it looks like a house of cards. The offense is not playing well, and neither is McNabb.

These 4 wins won't mean much at the end of the year if this offense and McNabb can't tighten their sh!t up.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 1, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I for one LOVE this backpedaling by shanny. He just admitted in his own way that he messed up. Which is one of the qualities in a leader.

And shanny is the most vindictive man I know. Have you guys forgotten about shanny vs. Al Davis? I think that lawsuit is still alive. The dude can hold a grudge.

And please please can the skins get moss?! But most likely he'll end up with the patsies again.

Posted by: dealer1 | November 1, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

That draining sound you hear is my respect for Shanny finding its way down the pipes.

His back-pedaling lame explanation to try and salvage an all-around atrocious coaching decision only makes it worse.

It's all about making himself look not as bad as he obviously does - which more and more seems to be the most important thing to him as a coach.

Seriously...so Big Mike went into the game having already decided that he would go with Rex Grossman over Donovan McNabb in a 2-minute situation with the game on the line??????

If that's the decision he made with time to think about it, it only makes him look like a BIGGER moron than if it were simply a heat-of-moment call.

Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

McNabb played 60 plays, had 1 turnover.
Grossman played 7 plays had 1 turnover.
Points off McNabbs turnover: 0
Points off Grossmans turnover: 7

Run the numbers. And when you are done
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... run them again.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | November 1, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

McNabb played 60 plays, had 1 turnover.
Grossman played 7 plays had 1 turnover.
Points off McNabbs turnover: 0
Points off Grossmans turnover: 7

Run the numbers. And when you are done
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... run them again.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan
UM Detroit scored the go ahead touchdown off of MCNabbs Pick.They scored on the Fourth Down pass to Calvin Johnson.

Posted by: lpddawg1 | November 1, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

expected to win!? you must not know the washington deadskins

a team with a 1 - 5 record is harder for the skins to beat than a team with a winning record - because at least they show up and focus against an on-paper-is-good opponent.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 1, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

You mean the "boy genius" and his father, the savior, couldn't turn that poor excuse of an offensive into a winner?! That's truly shocking!

Run for the hills Donovan! This is not the place for you!!

Posted by: Neisha_H | November 1, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

The benching of McNabb was a bonehead call no doubt but I still have faith in Shanny and Allen in the long term. I think the bigger mistake was expecting a huge turn around in one year...they let go of what was 11 or 15 players in the offseason many of them veterans with big contracts. The replacements where journeyman type players who were signed to short term 2-3 year contracts which signals to me that the management realizes that these are positions to be addressed in the draft and/or future free agency pickups.
The O-line was in shambles last year, they addressed the bookends of the line, Trent looks good, Jammal needs to get 100% and Heyer needs to go. The interior line is a wreck. Apparently Dockery doesn’t fit the system, Kory is playing horribly, Casey’s play has been deteriorating for the past few years in my opinion and Artis Hicks I think would be better as a backup G/T than a full time starter.
The Redskins need to address the interior in the offseason. But they also need a receiver, possibly a running back and they could use some young defensive talent too such as a NT, ILB, Safety and CB. Honestly they should be trying to transition Selvish Capers to G, at 6’-4” 308lbs I think he would do well at G in this system if he can get stronger. However that still leaves center and the other guard spot and with the other positions of need the Skins are easily 2 drafts/off seasons away from being a top tier team that is a playoff threat every year.

Posted by: BubbaRedOne | November 1, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

The benching of McNabb was a bonehead call no doubt but I still have faith in Shanny and Allen in the long term. I think the bigger mistake was expecting a huge turn around in one year...they let go of what was 11 or 15 players in the offseason many of them veterans with big contracts. The replacements where journeyman type players who were signed to short term 2-3 year contracts which signals to me that the management realizes that these are positions to be addressed in the draft and/or future free agency pickups.
The O-line was in shambles last year, they addressed the bookends of the line, Trent looks good, Jammal needs to get 100% and Heyer needs to go. The interior line is a wreck. Apparently Dockery doesn’t fit the system, Kory is playing horribly, Casey’s play has been deteriorating for the past few years in my opinion and Artis Hicks I think would be better as a backup G/T than a full time starter.
The Redskins need to address the interior in the offseason. But they also need a receiver, possibly a running back and they could use some young defensive talent too such as a NT, ILB, Safety and CB. Honestly they should be trying to transition Selvish Capers to G, at 6’-4” 308lbs I think he would do well at G in this system if he can get stronger. However that still leaves center and the other guard spot and with the other positions of need the Skins are easily 2 drafts/off seasons away from being a top tier team that is a playoff threat every year.

Posted by: BubbaRedOne | November 1, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

WOW!! WTF!!! I NEVER THOUGHT IN MY 39 YEARS OF BEING A REDSKINS FAN, I'M 44 YEARS NOW, THAT I WOULD THINK ABOUT RETIRING MY REDSKINS HAT AND GEAR TO THE CLOSET FOR MY BALTIMORE RAVENS GEAR, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. YOU ALL WATCH MONDAY NIGHT COUNTDOWN, AND HEARD OF "C'MON MAN" AND I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN KEITH, MIKE, CHRIS, KEYSHAWN, AND TOMMY TALK ABOUT US. C'MON MEN!!

MIKE SHANAHAN...C'MON MAN!!

* THAT WAS A DUMB AND POOR EXCUSE YOU GAVE FOR DONOVAN BEING BENCHED WITH LESS THAN TWO MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN JOHN ELWAY OUT OF THE GAME. A HEALTHY, ALL-PRO, JOHN ELWAY IS STILL EXTREMELY SLOWER THAN AN INJURED MCNABB WITH A BROKEN LEG.

KYLE SHANAHAN...C'MON MAN!!

* IT'S VERY EVIDENT THAT WORKING WITH YOUR FATHER HINDERS YOU. YOUR PLAY CALLING SUCKS. OUR OFFENSE SUCKS. YOU ARE WAY OUT YOUR LEAGUE. YOUR HOUSTON RESULTS LAST YEAR WERE A FLUKE. LET DONOVAN CALL HIS OWN PLAYS.

REED DOUGHTY...C'MON MAN!!

* YOU HARDLY EVER GET IN THE GAME NOW, AND YOU HIT SOMEONE IN THE BACK ON THAT RETURN BY BANKS FOR A TD.

OFFENSIVE LINE...C'MON MEN!!

*WTF!! YOU GIVE UP 7 SACKS!! HOW CAN MCNABB PLAY BETTER AND GET COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO SIT BACK THERE AND PASS? PUT YOUR OVERWEIGHT SELVES IN HIS SHOES! YOU ALL SHOULD TAKE THAT SAME PUNISHMENT AND TORTURE AND SEE HOW WELL YOU ALL HOLD UP.

CASEY RABACH...C'MON MAN!!

* NO MORE EXCUSES! FIRE OUT!! GET OUT OF THE WAY! STOP TRIPPING MCNABB!

SAFETIES, CONERBACKS...C'MON MEN!!

* THREE TD'S GIVEN UP TO CALVIN JOHNSON. SINCE OUR LOSS OF SEAN TAYLOR, WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN THE SAME IN OUR SECONDARY. DE'ANGELO HALL AND LARON LANDRY ARE THE ONLY TWO PULLING THEIR WEIGHT THIS YEAR! PERIOD!

DEFENSIVE LINE...C'MON MEN!!

* YOU MADE MATTHEW STAFFORD LOOK LIKE AN ALL-PRO. HE THREW FOUR TD'S ON US, AND HE WAS COMING BACK FROM AN INJURY!! CRAP! YOU NEED TO APPLY MORE PRESSURE AND GET TO THE QB!

BANKS...GOOD JOB! GREAT GAME!!

HAYNESWORTH...GOOD JOB! GREAT GAME!!

Posted by: bigregg7 | November 2, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

KYLE SHANAHAN...C'MON MAN!!

* IT'S VERY EVIDENT THAT WORKING WITH YOUR FATHER HINDERS YOU. YOUR PLAY CALLING SUCKS. OUR OFFENSE SUCKS. YOU ARE WAY OUT YOUR LEAGUE. YOUR HOUSTON RESULTS LAST YEAR WERE A FLUKE. LET DONOVAN CALL HIS OWN PLAYS.

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I'm not one to criticize coaches. I usually give them the benefit of the doubt, assuming that they know more about what they're doing than I do.

But I agree- "WTF" pretty much summarizes my thoughts on KS.

Look at the stats- In the games that Detroit loses, the opponents' running back has a career game. Unfortunately, Junior's only use for rushing plays is for setting up PA passes. It's as if he's playing Madden with the play cards.

I predicted that if the Skins lose, they would call very few running plays. Turns out, I was right.

Posted by: jboogie1 | November 2, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

And please please can the skins get moss?! But most likely he'll end up with the patsies again.


Posted by: dealer1 | November 1, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!! That would mean that they basically STOLE draft picks from Minnesota! Hahaha!

If NE signs him again, Brad Childress looks like a complete idiot.

Posted by: jboogie1 | November 2, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

And please please can the skins get moss?! But most likely he'll end up with the patsies again.


Posted by: dealer1 | November 1, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!! That would mean that they basically STOLE draft picks from Minnesota! Hahaha!

If NE signs him again, Brad Childress looks like a complete idiot.

Posted by: jboogie1 | November 2, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

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