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Protecting quarterback will be key against Eagles

By Barry Svrluga

Over the four games the Redskins played from Oct. 10 through Oct. 31 -- against Green Bay, Indianapolis, Chicago and Detroit -- Washington yielded 17 sacks, more than any team in the league during that time. Compare that to the six sacks they yielded in the first four weeks, and there appears to be a problem.

"There's no panic in, 'Oh my god, what's happened these last four games?'" offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said Friday. "Because you don't see a big difference on tape. We just haven't made the plays and haven't got the ball off and haven't protected [quarterback Donovan McNabb] as consistently in those situations."

The Redskins have allowed 23 sacks this season, sixth-most in the league, and they gave up seven in their most recent outing, the loss to Detroit. This week's opponent, Philadelphia, has 24 sacks in its eight games, tied for fifth in the NFL. Kyle Shanahan said of the Eagles: "They blitzed us, I think, more than anyone last time we played them."

But Shanahan doesn't see a significant difference in the quality of the protection over the previous month.

"We haven't done as good of a job all around," Shanahan said. "If you're in a bunch of third-and-longs like we were vs. Detroit, you're going to have a bunch of sacks, especially against that pass rush. When you get seven in one game, that's going to kind of destroy your stats a little for the previous four games.

"But I don't think our protection as a whole has been a lot worse than it [was] in those four games, but we've been caught in a couple situations where a couple of those sacks we got stepped on and fell before they got [there]. A couple of those sacks were credited just really because of a bad situation because of first and second downs -- and sometimes guys just whiffed and they got beat. That does happen."

By Barry Svrluga  | November 13, 2010; 6:06 AM ET
Categories:  Offensive line  
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Comments

They give McNabb time, we win.

Posted by: westjr88 | November 13, 2010 6:26 AM | Report abuse

Oh and........FIRST

Posted by: westjr88 | November 13, 2010 6:28 AM | Report abuse


no dockery = more sacks given up

Posted by: hessone | November 13, 2010 6:52 AM | Report abuse

Easy for Young Shanny to say that. It's not like he's out there having the stuffing knocked out of him on an all too regular basis. Or is he just looking for another way to justify getting Grossman in there fulltime?

Posted by: Vic1 | November 13, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

no dockery = more sacks given up

Posted by: hessone | November 13, 2010 6:52 AM |

Please stop putting Dockery up there like he is the greatest linemen in the world, wasn't he a major part of the crappy o_line we had last year.

Portis missed the last 4 games he is more of a reason for the more sacks then Dockery is.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 13, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

It's definitely the blocking, not McNabb, who's actually near the NFL's leaders in terms of getting rid of the ball when pressured. I think the turnover (injury and performance-related) on the line has a lot to do with their recent problems. But like Shanahan said, the film doesn't show the unfixable. They're close.

Here's the link to the article on QBs:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/11/11/o-line-em-up-which-qbs-are-holding-the-ball-too-long/

Posted by: Samson151 | November 13, 2010 7:56 AM | Report abuse

From Jaws' open mouth:

"My feeling is, although there's a dearth of quarterbacks in the NFL right now, my gut tells me Donovan might be somewhere else right now."


This observation comes as reports of a contract extension for McNabb filter out of Redskin Park.

You have to hope the team waits out the season before doing any kind of deal with McNabb.

#5 has 8 games to earn the extension

A 5-3/4-4 finish--given the offense's obvious issues--would say he is indeed a difference maker and worth the money.

Me?: I think McNabb will play with a 'chip on his shoulder' hoping to prove his critics in Philly--and elsewhere--wrong.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 13, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

It's traditional for Redskins fans to make the backup player the greatest in the world (we did it to Jason Campbell, Colt Brennan, Devin Thomas, etc.)

...now Derrick Dockery is Russ Grimm.

GTFOH!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | November 13, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

First 4 games - 6 sacks

Last 4 games - 17 sacks

Genius Jr. - "I don't think our protection as a whole has been a lot worse than it [was] in those four games."

???

Kind of reminds me of when Grilliams benched LaVar and acted incredulous at the notion that Warrick Holdman didn't deserve to be the starter with his 2 tackles per game.

In other news, the Emperor's new digs are really nice...

Posted by: p1funk | November 13, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Put Montgomery at center and bring back Dockery, if Clinton can't go (and he probably shouldn't , like Banks), go max protect and scramble Moss and Co. like Spitfires during the Battle of Britain..Jail the ENTIRE Goldman/Sachs Crew that own the Federal Reserve and are running the country into the ground..KICKOUT ALL REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS (the Repukes that just got installed got in through Goldman/Sachs hedge fund ripoff money so that the G/S crooks won't be jailed...yet..), Obama's a limp Goldman Sachs puppet shill, too, his answer to the engineered recession is to sell arms to Saudis (the Bin Laden family-remember them??) and to India to make us a WW3 economy, same old bull taco , different day...Where's my chelada, who's playin'??..

Posted by: frak | November 13, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Its hard to protect the Quaterback when your center is getting pushed back every play

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | November 13, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

(the Repukes that just got installed got in through Goldman/Sachs hedge fund ripoff money so that the G/S crooks won't be jailed...yet..), Obama's a limp Goldman Sachs puppet shill, too,

Posted by: frak | November 13, 2010 9:35 AM

Frak,

Can you post a link? I'd like to read more about this.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 13, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I hate to tear down Rabach, but he's showing his age (and undersize) and he's costing us on the field- keep him as an emergency backup??

beep-beep, this'll give you the gist of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6jr2vkk6cA

Posted by: frak | November 13, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Said center was just elected captain, too. How about calling him Captain Weaklink? Captain Step-On-Your-Foot? Other suggestions?

Posted by: NYPDee | November 13, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

OK, beep-beep, and "Democracy Now!" Nov.5, 2010 reports:


"Wall Street Moguls Funded Pro-GOP Rove Group

As President Obama adjusts to Democrats’ reduced legislative standing, new details have emerged on the privately funded effort to elect Republican candidates. NBC News reports the bulk of funding for the Karl Rove-founded group Crossroads GPS "came from a small circle of extremely wealthy Wall Street hedge fund and private equity moguls." Rove helped coordinate Crossroads’ spending on attack ads against vulnerable Democrats along with other right-wing groups. Both Crossroads and sister group American Crossroads spent $38 million on attack ads and mailings targeting Democratic candidates. According to NBC, Republican candidates won nine of the 12 Senate races and 14 of 22 House races where Rove’s groups spent money."

The Marquis De Sade said that totalitarianism could work, if the right dictator was in place..The Founding Fathers (yeh, they had slaves, but they were often more humanely treated and living in a more African environment than sh*tloads of black and whiite wage slaves living and working in the dismal,infected slums in the North) had a more organic sense of freedom and reality , when they created the checks and balances system in the Constitution..Jefferson was ALWAYS at war with big money and the banks, "Maybe it was time TO SMASH THINGS UP!!!" -Fugazi

blah,blah,blah...

Posted by: frak | November 13, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Said center was just elected captain, too. How about calling him Captain Weaklink? Captain Step-On-Your-Foot? Other suggestions?
Posted by: NYPDee

"Mr Gets pushed back alot" " Captain HELP MEEEE"

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | November 13, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Rabach = Captain Collapse

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 13, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Rabach = Captain Crunched

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 13, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Rabach = Captain Cave-In

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 13, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

"Protecting QB Will be Key Against Eagles". Isn't that the case against ANY team?

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | November 13, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: malta1 | November 13, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse


The remainder of this season should be dedicated to finding out which younger players are capable of playing at the pro level. To hell with these starters that can't tow the line, year in and year out. Anyone that thinks this is a playoff caliber team needs a frontal lobotomy.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | November 13, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: malta1 | November 13, 2010 11:53 AM

If Shanahan were to pull that crap, he would instantly become my most hated man in all of sports. My hatred of Dallas would also increase exponentially, which is impressive because I already hate Dallas with a passion that is rivaled by nothing else.

But I would be shocked if this were not mere rumor mongering and pot stirring by the media.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 13, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

But I would be shocked if this were not mere rumor mongering and pot stirring by the media.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 13, 2010 12:08 PM

Not even the media. It's Florio. Beantowngreg is right about more things than Florio.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 13, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Next: the sky is blue

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 13, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan to Cowboys???????

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/Shanahan-to-the-Cowboys-107718628.html

Posted by: malta1 | November 13, 2010 11:53 AM

Maybe we could get their 1st, Jay Ratliff, & Dez Bryant in a trade.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 13, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we could get their 1st, Jay Ratliff, & Dez Bryant in a trade.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 13, 2010 12:20 PM

And vinny would be back to find the right guy to spend that first on.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 13, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: beep-beep | November 13, 2010 12:12 PM

Florio? Say no more. He is the biggest jackass in all of sports "journalism" (and that's a loooooong list of jackasses). If it weren't for mongering and stirring he would have nothing to write.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 13, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: beep-beep | November 13, 2010 12:12 PM

Florio? Say no more. He is the biggest jackass in all of sports "journalism" (and that's a loooooooong list of jackasses). If it weren't for mongering and stirring, he would have nothing to write.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 13, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

And vinny would be back to find the right guy to spend that first on.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 13, 2010 12:23 PM

I hear there is a QB coach in Baltimore that we could replace Shanahan with after we trade him.

We could also trade Lil Shanahan to the the Texans for Andre Johnson and Mario Williams.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 13, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Damn it, I haven't had a double post in a looooooong time!

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 13, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

why be afraid to criticize rabach? because he is a so-called white man? the guy is bum he has never been anything but mediocre I have been calling for his removal from the line for over 2 1/2 years and the lying coach has put one of his favorites in at lg who is just as bad as rabach this is improving the team? the only players who have mentioned the o-line blocking is not getting it done is portis and cooley why does not the head-moron see this?

Posted by: wathu19 | November 13, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

why be afraid to criticize rabach? because he is a so-called white man? the guy is bum he has never been anything but mediocre I have been calling for his removal from the line for over 2 1/2 years and the lying coach has put one of his favorites in at lg who is just as bad as rabach this is improving the team? the only players who have mentioned the o-line blocking is not getting it done is portis and cooley why does not the head-moron see this?

Posted by: wathu19 | November 13, 2010 12:33 PM

Food for thought: his teammates--many of whom are non-white--just elected him a team captain.

What do you make of that?

Posted by: Alan4 | November 13, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

"Said center was just elected captain, too. How about calling him Captain Weaklink? Captain Step-On-Your-Foot? Other suggestions?"

Thanks Captain Obvious. ;);)

Seriously, yeah he's soft. As far as Dockery goes, while he is not Grimm by any stretch, he's certainly a better pass blocker then Lichtenwhateverhisnameis. Out of everything that has happend this year this one leaves me scratching my head the most. He probably is weak run blocker for this offense, but if you're giving me the choice I'll take Dockery.

The o-line has issues still, and yes he was here last year. But for this year he's the better choice then a guy who didn't even play football last year.

Having Portis back will help though.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 13, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Food for thought: his teammates--many of whom are non-white--just elected him a team captain.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 13, 2010 12:56 PM

Fraud! What color were the guys who counted the votes? Recount!

Posted by: beep-beep | November 13, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Yeh, Rabach is stretched out...If Shanahan can't stand the heat, get outta the kitchen..But I think he can...So what if Obama is the FIRST black president?? Major Colin Powell covered up the My Lai massacre (and the head general's general policy) for the generals , and so they made him a GENERAL..That black dude down in Atlanta was a mass murderer of children- BLACK is not a license for decency...I have known black lesbian right-wingers that would bite your head off in a Rio Grande heartbeat ( see "Condoleeza Rice")...

Posted by: frak | November 13, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse


why be afraid to criticize rabach? because he is a so-called white man? the guy is bum he has never been anything but mediocre I have been calling for his removal from the line for over 2 1/2 years and the lying coach has put one of his favorites in at lg who is just as bad as rabach this is improving the team? the only players who have mentioned the o-line blocking is not getting it done is portis and cooley why does not the head-moron see this?

Posted by: wathu19 | November 13, 2010 12:33 PM

Food for thought: his teammates--many of whom are non-white--just elected him a team captain.

What do you make of that?


Posted by: Alan4 | November 13, 2010 12:56 PM |

wathu19, let it go so we can all heal together, to beat the race card to death to make a point is sad

Alan4, I guess rabach calls the line signals, so he's the captain.

beep, go ahead and criticize me now

Posted by: hessone | November 13, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Most popular player does not best player make...Colin Powell covered up the My Lai massacre (so they made him a GENERAL!!) for the Pentagon..

Posted by: frak | November 13, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: wathu19 | November 13, 2010 12:33 PM

Very few coaches or players are EVER going to come out in the media and say something like "This player sucks. I can't wait untill we can get rid of him,", even if that is what they believe. The most they will say in this situation is what they are saying, which is "We need to do a better job of protecting our QB."

I think that there is a very good chance that you will get your wish regarding Rabach after this season. I believe there will be more than one new player on the interior of the O-line for next season.

Be patient, there is not much that they can do at this point in the season short of moving up Cook, who may not be ready. The trade deadline is past. What free agent is sitting at home that would be an improvement?

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 13, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse


Be patient, there is not much that they can do at this point in the season short of moving up Cook, who may not be ready. The trade deadline is past. What free agent is sitting at home that would be an improvement?


Posted by: kaasmaster | November 13, 2010 1:12 PM |
-------

your words are like the eye of the storm kaas, it's like a calmant

Posted by: hessone | November 13, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse


torain beeps

Posted by: hessone | November 13, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Rabach has been on the team long enough that a lot of people may have forgotten he was a backup with Bmore before we got him. They liked his smarts and thought he was good for depth, but apparently didn't think of him as a starter.

Posted by: NYPDee | November 13, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan to Cowboys???????

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/Shanahan-to-the-Cowboys-107718628.html

Posted by: malta1 | November 13, 2010 11:53 AM

Maybe we could get their 1st, Jay Ratliff, & Dez Bryant in a trade.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 13, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse
==========================================
Diesel, everyone knows it was Bud Grant who called Jerry Jones.

Posted by: clark202 | November 13, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeh, Rabach is stretched out...If Shanahan can't stand the heat, get outta the kitchen..But I think he can...So what if Obama is the FIRST black president?? Major Colin Powell covered up the My Lai massacre (and the head general's general policy) for the generals , and so they made him a GENERAL..That black dude down in Atlanta was a mass murderer of children- BLACK is not a license for decency...I have known black lesbian right-wingers that would bite your head off in a Rio Grande heartbeat ( see "Condoleeza Rice")...

Posted by: frak | November 13, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse
===========================================Hey Frak, Gene Washington, the NFL Exec, is tappin' Condi. So she may be playin' on both teams. Nothin' wrong with that, but I don't think she's a lesbian, again *not that there's something wrong with that*. Hell, being a man for 36 years, I've been a lesbian all my life. I love the ladies.

Posted by: clark202 | November 13, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Silverback was a better blocker during the first 4 games with Dockery next to him. Lichtensteiger has negatively affected Silverback's development.

Posted by: coparker5 | November 13, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

And in how many game is protecting the QB NOT a key?

Posted by: Redskinrex | November 13, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Rabach is that he has another weak link to his left.

No, Dockery is not a Probowl guard but this line looked a lot stronger up the middle with him in there than it does with Lichtensteiger and we need him back badly!!!

Posted by: eriugcm | November 14, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Mc Nabb slow to respond, older and slower and beat up too.Eagles will try to remove him from the game.Redskins should be pumped to win,pressure on Redskins,not Vick.Vick will get hit,no doubt.

Posted by: dcg326 | November 14, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

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