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Posted at 3:41 PM ET, 02/ 8/2011

Redskins hire Chris Morgan to help coach offensive line

By Mike Jones

The Washington Redskins announced today that they have hired Chris Morgan as an assistant offensive line coach, adding a new member to coach Mike Shanahan's staff.

Morgan is coming off two seasons in the same role with the Oakland Raiders, where he helped coach a unit that paved the way for the NFL's 10th-ranked offense. The Raiders amassed 354.6 total yards a game and were sixth in points per game (25.6). The Raiders also ranked second in rushing, averaging 4.9 yards a carry. Oakland produced 19 rushing touchdowns, which was tied for second most in the NFL.

Morgan wasn't retained by the Raiders after the hiring of Hue Jackson as head coach.

Morgan, 32, played offensive line for the University of Colorado from 1995 to 1999. In 2003, Morgan served as a graduate assistant on former Oakland coach Tom Cable's staff at the University of Idaho.

A native of Killeen, Texas, Morgan will attempt to help Redskins offensive line coach Chris Foerster improve a unit that struggled last season. Washington ranked 30th in rushing (91.3 yards per game), and the line surrendered 46 sacks -- fifth highest in the league.

The Redskins last season addressed a pressing need at left tackle when they drafted Trent Williams with the No. 4 overall pick. But some Washington linemen were plagued by injury and others struggled to fit in Shanahan's zone blocking scheme. The Redskins used six different offensive line combinations at various points during the season.

By Mike Jones  | February 8, 2011; 3:41 PM ET
Categories:  Mike Shanahan, Offensive line, Trent Williams  
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Comments

Is this the first Mike Jones post? Welcome to RI! You'd have to try to be as incompetent as your predecessor, so you are off to a good start. Oakland ran the ball well last year, cant see how this hurts.

Posted by: zjenks | February 8, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Timely..

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 8, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Your blogs are bound to be better than Reid's. Good luck to you. Understand that Reid got promoted into Wilbon's spot as a columnist for the Post. Damn good for a guy who has not had one original thought in print or on the air.

Posted by: getitritegov | February 8, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Is this THE Mike Jones?

Nice post...actually informative too...I like it! Gonna miss the Coin Toss series though.

Now when can we get Reid's mugshot off RI?

Posted by: PlayAction | February 8, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

WHO!! MIKE JOOONESS........

Posted by: jiza32 | February 8, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Running game ...

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Everyone say hello to Mike.

Hello Mike.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 8, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't Mike Jones a reporter for TBD.com???

Also, what is the status of volunteer OLine Coach Chris Samuels?

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 8, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

After the Cheeves, the Raiders had the #2 rushing yards per game in the NFL. Rex Grossman at QB and receivers not good enough yet? Running game.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Are there any O line prospects that are even worth looking at #10? The Pouncey brother looks promising to me and i despise Rabach, but might be a reach there.

Posted by: zjenks | February 8, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

So he and Tom Cable are the ones JC8 has to thank for having a successful season......

Interesting..........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 8, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Also, what is the status of volunteer OLine Coach Chris Samuels?

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 8, 2011 4:08 PM

Technically, I think his title was "coaching intern." I didn't know about the volunteer part.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Sixth in points per game? Huh. Guess their quarterback must've been a real bust.

Posted by: RIP-21 | February 8, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Welcome Mike Jones.

Nice post about the hiring of an assistant coach and all, but please tell us what it was like to tackle Kevin Dyson on the one yard line to seal the deal in Super Bowl XXwhateverIV.

Posted by: MColeman51 | February 8, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

"...improve a unit that struggled last season...Washington ranked 30th in rushing (91.3 yards per game), and the line surrendered 46 sacks -- fifth highest in the league."

"...others struggled to fit in Shanahan's zone blocking scheme. The Redskins used six different offensive line combinations at various points during the season."


Mike Jones clearly has an agenda against the Redskins! Bring back JReid! Bring back Jasno! Free Cindy!

Posted by: 4-12 | February 8, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Are there any O line prospects that are even worth looking at #10? The Pouncey brother looks promising to me and i despise Rabach, but might be a reach there.

Posted by: zjenks | February 8, 2011 4:11 PM

Nope on the O-lineman. This draft is about defensive linemen, plus about 3 or 4 3-4 OLBs. If they can't move down from #10, then it should be one of those guys. If they can, then O-line would be a great idea, but they still have massive defensive needs opposite Orakpo and in the middle. Myself, now I'm thinking that the second round pick should be Mikel Leshoure, RB, but I repeat myself about how to keep games close, fans in the seat, while building a team through the draft and player development, rather than fee agency.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redskins/2011/2/8/1981267/nfl-free-agency-redskins-rocky-mcintosh-jammal-brown
Posted by: scampbell1975

Good link. Good read. Here is the statement from that article that jumped out at me:

"while he finished second on the team in tackles, he may have actually have been the second worst tackler on the team this season behind Kareem Moore."

Ouch! That's a harsh assessment. You have to wonder how many tackles Rocky would have had if he knew the D and knew how to wrap up. 150?

I pretty much agree with both of his conclusions.

Posted by: NYPDee | February 8, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse


As a fellow Kangaroo ... I have to say, welcome aboard, Chris!

GO ROOS/SKINS!


Bradley

Posted by: BTDK | February 8, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Can this guy toss a coin?

Posted by: wireman65 | February 8, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Can this guy toss a coin?

Posted by: wireman65 | February 8, 2011 4:28 PM

Or better yet, coss a toin ... in one swell foop.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

they hired the wrong chris!! should have hired chris samuels!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | February 8, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

they hired the wrong chris!! should have hired chris samuels!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | February 8, 2011 4:32 PM

He had an extended audition for the job. If they didn't hire him sounds like he might not be a good coaching prospect.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

@Mr. beepers,

Wait, really? The dude takes his first shot at coaching in his first year out and doesn't get full-time hired and he already "might not be a good coaching prospect?"

Sounds a bit harsh to me.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | February 8, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I like the hire.

A well executed ground game would be great to see in DC.

Now step 2- draft another offensive lineman. I hope for one in the 1st round, but I think Shanahan drafts a QB. So maybe round 2.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse


@Mr. beepers,

Wait, really? The dude takes his first shot at coaching in his first year out and doesn't get full-time hired and he already "might not be a good coaching prospect?"

Sounds a bit harsh to me.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | February 8, 2011 4:46 PM |
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take it from me, beep is hard on everyone and everything.

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Welcome, Mike Jones!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 8, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

He had an extended audition for the job. If they didn't hire him sounds like he might not be a good coaching prospect.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like we need a Samuels post. Who knows if its true he isn't gonna stay on the staff, or if the reason he didn't work out was because he never zone blocked as a player.

IMO Chris could be a solid coach, he is smart and played the most important position on offense. He will just needs to find the right coaching staff. Maybe he could go into the college ranks. I bet any VA or MD school could use him as a recruiting tool for linemen.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 8, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Re: Mike Jones

Who is Mike Jones, and can he get us some inside info on Santana Moss who is about 2-3 days away from being a UFA?


Re: New Oline Coach

That's nice. Any decent free agent Olinemen from Oakland that want to follow him over here?


Re: FA Update - McNabb & AH

Good news and bad news for Skins on the McNabb/AH trade front.

Good news - Courts have decided not to block the suspensions of the Williamses in Minny. This means they could be in the hunt for a 4-3 DT to fill the large gap that will be left in their Dline.

Bad news - Apparently Larry Fitzgerald has told the Cards which QBs he'd be interested in playing with and McNabb is not on the list. Bummer. Scratch one potential trade partner.

Posted by: p1funk | February 8, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Sixth in points per game? Huh. Guess their quarterback must've been a real bust.

Posted by: RIP-21 | February 8, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse


Raiders were 2nd in the NFL in rushing TDs.

In passing TDs they were 7th from the bottom.

So it would seem that their QB play is, at best, not very relevant, and, at worst, the weak link in their scoring production.

Posted by: p1funk | February 8, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

take it from me, beep is hard on everyone and everything.

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 4:57 PM

mrs. beep disagrees

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2011 5:08 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins freakin' suck.

Posted by: NyallsStJohnSmytheIV | February 8, 2011 5:10 PM | Report abuse

mrs. beep disagrees

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2011 5:08 PM

Mrs. Sweeney was the one who gave hessone the inside information.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Raiders were 2nd in the NFL in rushing TDs.

In passing TDs they were 7th from the bottom.

So it would seem that their QB play is, at best, not very relevant, and, at worst, the weak link in their scoring production.
Posted by: p1funk | February 8, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Not to be a total dick, but the skins only scored 3 more passing TD's. and ten less rushing TD's

Posted by: alex35332 | February 8, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

So we have 2 OLine coaches?

Posted by: Albright4Snapper | February 8, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I like Mike already.

He's posting something we didn't about yet.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 8, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

So we have 2 OLine coaches?

Posted by: Albright4Snapper | February 8, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

There are teams with 25 different coaches, assistants and trainers. Thats one for every other player.

We could have up to 5 guys working exclusively with the line and still be at that same level.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 8, 2011 5:24 PM | Report abuse

On behalf of the lurkers, welcome to RI Mike! I hope your blogs are interesting. Good luck!

Posted by: WishboneJr | February 8, 2011 5:32 PM | Report abuse

The Raiders and Redskins continue to cross-pollinate.

Santana Moss to Raiders?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 8, 2011 5:36 PM | Report abuse

This Mike Jones guy may not be the new "Insider." There was a guy the other day that added a post with his name attached and that didn't mean he's the new "Insider." Someone started a rumor with their "beep."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I think they should grab Julio Jones if he is at #10. When your second most dangerous receiver is a slow footed TE coming off a broken leg you need a WR.

Posted by: renhoekk2 | February 8, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Raiders were 2nd in the NFL in rushing TDs.

In passing TDs they were 7th from the bottom.

So it would seem that their QB play is, at best, not very relevant, and, at worst, the weak link in their scoring production.
Posted by: p1funk | February 8, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Not to be a total dick, but the skins only scored 3 more passing TD's. and ten less rushing TD's

Posted by: alex35332 | February 8, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse


Which means our crappy QBs were more effective in the scoring department than the guys in Oakland.

Posted by: p1funk | February 8, 2011 5:39 PM | Report abuse

The line will be as strength next year.

B-O-O-K-I-T

Rabach will be replaced. Montgomery and the Steiger will improve tenfold. Selvish Capers will make us forget about Jamal Brown.

You heard it here first (and probably last)

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2011 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I think they should grab Julio Jones if he is at #10. When your second most dangerous receiver is a slow footed TE coming off a broken leg you need a WR.

Posted by: renhoekk2 | February 8, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse


Or they could use an Olinemen at #10. When your team is 5th worst in the NFL in surrendering sacks, you need better pass-pro.

Or we should grab a DB at #10. When your passing defense is 2nd worst in the NFL in yards/game, you could use major help in the secondary.

Or we should grab an OLB pass-rusher at 10. When you are bottom 4 in the league in sacks, you really need to bolster your pass rush.

Or we should grab a Dlineman at #10. When you're 7th worst in the league in stopping the run, you could really use and anchor on that Dline.


...kind of depressing how we could do this all day, eh?

Posted by: p1funk | February 8, 2011 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Nobody seems to have asked the pertinent question: Is Shanny completely happy with Foerster coaching the O line? Or does he feel he has too much on his plate? Or is he not relaying the zone blocking scheme to Shanny's liking?

Posted by: ga8085 | February 8, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

We need more dudes named "Chris" to coach up the O line, clearly.

Maybe they want to make Trent Williams feel more at home by bringing in fellow Texas natives. Though Killeen is a long way from Longview.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 8, 2011 5:51 PM | Report abuse

This Mike Jones guy may not be the new "Insider." There was a guy the other day that added a post with his name attached and that didn't mean he's the new "Insider." Someone started a rumor with their "beep."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 5:37 PM

That would be me. Googled Mike Jones and found a few blurbs on him moving from TBD to become new Redskins beat reporter for the Post. But, yeah, I haven't seen the Post announce it. However given the state of ineptitude that permeates today's Post, who knows what constitutes and announcement?

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Which means our crappy QBs were more effective in the scoring department than the guys in Oakland.

Posted by: p1funk | February 8, 2011 5:39 PM

There was a much bigger drop-off switching from Oakland's #1 QB (13 TDs/8 INTs) to their #2 (5 TDs/7 INTs).

For us there was a scoring improvement in switching from #1 (14 TDs/15 INTs) to #2 (7 TDs/4 INTs).

Oakland's QB flip-flopping was not effective for improving their passing TD vs giveaways, but the Skins switch was.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 8, 2011 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Re: New Oline Coach

That's nice. Any decent free agent Olinemen from Oakland that want to follow him over here?

Posted by: p1funk | February 8, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse


To answer my own question: Yes.

There are some interesting FA prospects out of Oakland this year on the Oline.

Langston Walker
Mario Henderson
RObert Gallerty

Posted by: p1funk | February 8, 2011 6:02 PM | Report abuse

RObert Gallerty

Posted by: p1funk | February 8, 2011 6:02 PM

Wouldn't mind that singing at all. I'm more concerned that the defense get's the necessary reinforcements early in this draft.

Posted by: TWISI | February 8, 2011 6:17 PM | Report abuse


Wouldn't mind that singing at all.

Posted by: TWISI | February 8, 2011 6:17 PM |

Right. He'd be in harmony with the rest of the line?

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't mind that singing at all.

Posted by: TWISI | February 8, 2011 6:17 PM |

Right. He'd be in harmony with the rest of the line?

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 6:22 PM |

The curse of having big hands.

Posted by: TWISI | February 8, 2011 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm always up for drafting and signing FA offensive linemen.

Years of neglect by Cerrato has done this.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Breaking news

Hershey has come up with a great new candy. Little round drops of chocolate in a coated candy shell.

BRILLIANT! How has no one thought of this before?

Posted by: alex35332 | February 8, 2011 6:30 PM | Report abuse

you know....i caught some crap from a few bloggers a few days ago for saying that all of the negativity and high school humor gets old on here...I can't help that i like this blog because its really the most informative Redskins blog I've found...but i can't for the life of me get some of you hyper critical winey ass nerds who think that because you post on here every day of your life that you are somehow more intelligent than the rest of us...I read here because i love the Redskins...thats the deal...win or lose..owned by Snyder or not..I'll be here rootin for the skins...I've been rooting for them since i was 8 years old and Jack pardee was the coach...we have a great proud franchise here in DC...but some of you beep beep and others...are just snotty nosed disgruntled fair weather know it alls who think your perfect.. and honestly..its pretty damn annoying...to the rest of you......HAIL

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 6:31 PM | Report abuse

you know....i caught some crap from a few bloggers a few days ago for saying that all of the negativity and high school humor gets old on here...I can't help that i like this blog because its really the most informative Redskins blog I've found...but i can't for the life of me get some of you hyper critical winey ass nerds who think that because you post on here every day of your life that you are somehow more intelligent than the rest of us...I read here because i love the Redskins...thats the deal...win or lose..owned by Snyder or not..I'll be here rootin for the skins...I've been rooting for them since i was 8 years old and Jack pardee was the coach...we have a great proud franchise here in DC...but some of you beep beep and others...are just snotty nosed disgruntled fair weather know it alls who think your perfect.. and honestly..its pretty damn annoying...to the rest of you......HAIL

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Co-sign on that. You have a ticket for the Optimism Bus 2011.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 6:36 PM | Report abuse

thanks ih8dallas

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 6:39 PM | Report abuse

thanks ih8dallas


Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 6:39 PM | Report abuse

No prob man.

It doesn't matter what you say up here, someone will try to make you sound stupid.

They like to use some obscure statistic in their favor.

On top of all that they want to call you gay for watching Glee( on tonight at 8:00).

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

but some of you ...are just snotty nosed disgruntled fair weather know it alls who think your perfect.. and honestly..its pretty damn annoying...

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 6:31 PM |

You keep coming up here with your whining, name-calling, and you're "I'm better than the rest of you" crap. You think can complain but that no one but you can complain. You accuse us, but you go take a look in the mirror. You're the only one who seems to thing that he's perfect.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Mike Jones, you rock... Your posts are a pleasure... imminently readable and no editing required!! (ha!)

Hey, if Morgan can help the Redskins get close to the Raiders' ranking in the run game (2nd isn't too shabby!), I say "welcome" to the man.

Looking forward to reading your stuff!

Posted by: dchesebr | February 8, 2011 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Torain will be a super-beast next year.

1268 yards and 10 TD's.

Book it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 6:56 PM | Report abuse

alex, I realize it's unlikely, but I pray that Hershey's scientists have been able to solve the age-old problem of delivering small bites of chocolate candy to my mouth before it melts in my hand.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 8, 2011 6:56 PM | Report abuse

You keep coming up here with your whining, name-calling, and you're "I'm better than the rest of you" crap. You think can complain but that no one but you can complain. You accuse us, but you go take a look in the mirror. You're the only one who seems to thing that he's perfect.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 6:52 PM |

I'm not complaining as much as I'm calling out the immature idiots who think they are so smart..if that strikes home to you..I don't know what to tell you other than..'its always better to be quiet and thought a fool than to be a loudmouth and remove all doubt"

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Pot...meet kettle

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 6:58 PM | Report abuse

You keep coming up here with your whining, name-calling, and you're "I'm better than the rest of you" crap. You think can complain but that no one but you can complain. You accuse us, but you go take a look in the mirror. You're the only one who seems to thing that he's perfect.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 6:52 PM |

I'm not complaining as much as I'm calling out the immature idiots who think they are so smart..if that strikes home to you..I don't know what to tell you other than..'its always better to be quiet and thought a fool than to be a loudmouth and remove all doubt"

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA! Beep you suck.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 7:01 PM | Report abuse

i know i know...i ain't a regular poster..sorry scamp but u just joined us...kettle, pot...pan

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Torain will be a super-beast next year.

1268 yards and 10 TD's.

Book it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 6:56 PM


If he stays healthy he will probably get even more yards than that...Id be happy with those numbers tho

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

i know i know...i ain't a regular poster..sorry scamp but u just joined us...kettle, pot...pan

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 7:02 PM |

Hey dude...I'm the worst of the worst. I fall right in with who you're aiming at...thing is, I know it and freely admit it. I do try to add some knowledge, opinion, and other worthy posts from time to time but by and large I'm an idiot.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey dude...I'm the worst of the worst. I fall right in with who you're aiming at...thing is, I know it and freely admit it. I do try to add some knowledge, opinion, and other worthy posts from time to time but by and large I'm an idiot.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 7:06 PM


Fair enough..me too..no harm no foul

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 7:09 PM | Report abuse

We have a young nucleus of playmakers in place:

T. Williams
Torain
Armstrong
Banks
K. Williams
Fred Davis
D. Hall
Orakpo

It does suck that my dad isn't renewing season tickets.

On the bright side this probably means the Skins will host a playoff game this season.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 7:11 PM | Report abuse

http://www.hogshaven.com/

Pretty good post about the 10th pick in the draft on HogsHaven (scroll down 1 post to see). The Title is "And with the 10th pick in the 2011 NFL draft the Washington Redskins select."

The guy who wrote it is a bit of a dick but it's still worth checking out.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 8, 2011 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Pretty good post about the 10th pick in the draft on HogsHaven (scroll down 1 post to see). The Title is "And with the 10th pick in the 2011 NFL draft the Washington Redskins select."

The guy who wrote it is a bit of a dick but it's still worth checking out.


Posted by: Diesel44 | February 8, 2011 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Still think they go for Cam Newton.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm not complaining as much as I'm calling out the immature idiots who think they are so smart..if that strikes home to you..I don't know what to tell you other than..'its always better to be quiet and thought a fool than to be a loudmouth and remove all doubt"

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

You know, if you actually wanted to take exception to something I've said, that makes sense. But that's not your style. You're simply a hit-and-run name caller. "immature idiots," "snotty nosed disgruntled fair weather know it alls who think your perfect".

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 7:26 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA! Beep you suck.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 7:01 PM

Thanks for your feedback. You're about to get a journalism degree.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 7:28 PM | Report abuse

You know, if you actually wanted to take exception to something I've said, that makes sense. But that's not your style. You're simply a hit-and-run name caller. "immature idiots," "snotty nosed disgruntled fair weather know it alls who think your perfect".

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 7:26 PM


Actually Beep I do take exception to something you said..I'm not going to go back to sunday and copy and paste it but if you want to know go back and look...If you can't recall being an ass two days ago...well then maybe thats the problem

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 7:32 PM | Report abuse

That's nothing. There used to be a site called Nothing Toxic that I would visit and let me tell you, the racists, idiots, and pervs that would comment on there would make the posters on here look like Gandhi...

Posted by: ga8085 | February 8, 2011 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Some Redskin fans believe that in a quarterback driven league, you can get by with some chucklehead nobody quarterback drafted in round 6 (lightning only hit the Pats, fellas, and then only once).

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 7, 2011 10:02 PM


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Well done! The whole "franchise QB" argument has really been my forte since joining the blog awhile back. I've been preaching so many different versions of this same MoeQuote above, that I thought I'd give others the chance sound off.

The following link provides an interview of Joe Gibbs from last Tuesdays media day in Dallas. You can hear Joe Gibbs himself say that you ain't gonna win it nowadays without a QB!

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=65&c=428&f=68813

Listen to:
02-01-11 The Sports Fix Hour 2 (37:46)

Starts @ 31:00

Posted by: Vicc | February 8, 2011 7:38 PM | Report abuse

you know what beep? I'm wrong about you in particular...it was you who added your 2 cents worth but not you i was referring to.. i went back and looked..my bad. All you other posters...I WAS WRONG ABOUT BEEP

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Call me what you want but I'm a standup guy

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 7:44 PM | Report abuse

OK I know this is sad but.... WHO CARES? 7-9 if there's a season

Posted by: mriley0223 | February 8, 2011 7:58 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA! Beep you suck.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 7:01 PM

Thanks for your feedback. You're about to get a journalism degree.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I know, I'm excited about that.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Proof that Snyder is the dumbest stump among NFL owners-- from the NY Times

Ridiculed, an N.F.L. Owner Goes to Court
By DAVID CARR

Back in November, when Daniel M. Snyder, the owner of the Washington Redskins, was pilloried at length in a piece in the Washington City Paper, a local weekly, he had a number of options: He could have ignored the article, contacted the newspaper and asked for equal time or corrections, or he could have used his bully pulpit as the owner of both a pro sports team and a number of local radio stations to respond.

Mr. Snyder chose none of the above, instead commissioning David P. Donovan, the general counsel of the Redskins, to write a letter to the owners of the newspaper that included the following paragraph:

“Mr. Snyder has more than sufficient means to protect his reputation and defend himself and his wife against your paper’s concerted attempt at character assassination. We presume that defending such litigation would not be a rational strategy for an investment fund such as yours. Indeed, the cost of the litigation would presumably quickly outstrip the asset value of the Washington City Paper.”

Historically, newspapers big and small have depended on the relatively stalwart federal laws protecting First Amendment freedoms, and when that failed to deter, a good libel insurance policy and lawyers to stand behind it.

Perhaps Mr. Snyder feels emboldened to threaten as opposed to negotiate because City Paper — a weekly in Washington, D.C., that I used to edit over 10 years ago — went through bankruptcy in 2008 and now is owned by Atalaya Capital Management, a hedge fund.

Atalaya lent Creative Loafing the money to finance a purchase of City Paper, among other papers, in 2007. Libel cases are notoriously difficult to win, but as newspaper companies have been in decline, some of the targets of their reporting have begun to push back in the belief that owners are less eager to defend their work in costly ways.

The City Paper article in question was an encyclopedic litany of complaints about Mr. Snyder’s tenure that ran literally from A (for the American Enterprise Institute, which cited the Redskins as a “seriously mismanaged” franchise) to Z (for Jim Zorn, a former Redskins head coach, but here used as a verb to describe humiliating an employee by taking away his duties) and just about everything in between, including H (for Pat Hill, the down-on-her-luck 73-year-old grandmother who was sued by the Redskins when she could not afford payments for her club seat contract).

The article was an instant cult classic among long-suffering Redskins fans, but it was hardly breaking new ground. Mr. Snyder’s struggles as owner of the Redskins have been a common theme in the press since he bought the team in 1999. In 2009, The Wall Street Journal published an article suggesting that Mr. Snyder’s approach to team ownership had alienated Redskins fans, asking “Are the Redskins Losing Washington?”

Posted by: Pepper5 | February 8, 2011 8:11 PM | Report abuse

“This story is very much at the core of what we do. It is well-reported, factually correct and extremely relevant to the people who live in and around the Washington area,” said Amy Austin, the publisher of City Paper. “As I told our staff, this is very much the kind of story we do well, one that requires fearlessness and a bravado that is consistent with the kind of work we have done for the past 30 years.”

The complaint itself is a kitchen sink of splendors that is short on specifics in terms of what precisely Dave McKenna’s article got wrong. The complaint does digress into the rather novel legal argument that because Mr. Snyder owns several media properties, City Paper was trying to gain a competitive advantage by maligning him.

Patricia Glaser, the prominent Los Angeles lawyer who represents Mr. Snyder, suggested that the illustration of Mr. Snyder, which showed his likeness defaced by a schoolyard scribble of horns, a unibrow and a kind of devil beard, was “blatantly anti-Semitic.” Mr. Snyder and his lawyers brought out the big guns on this charge, enlisting the Simon Wiesenthal Center to demand that City Paper apologize for the image, which it said was “associated with virulent anti-Semitism going back to the Middle Ages.”

(Jeffrey Goldberg, writing for TheAtlantic.com, called this statement “almost unbearably stupid. The image isn’t anti-Semitic, at least not to anyone who has ever gone to grade school and/or has scrawled on a magazine.”)

Neither Mr. Snyder nor his executives ever got in touch with the newspaper or its editors, preferring to try to exercise leverage on the hedge fund that owned it. The effort to cut out the middleman and apply direct pressure on the ownership reflects a level of aggression that would have come in handy on the field during yet another hapless Redskins season.

It is not, however, the kind of tactic the courts will look kindly on now that Mr. Snyder has filed a suit in New York courts seeking $2 million in general damages in addition to unspecified damages and court costs. The law, in New York and elsewhere, takes a dim view of threatening to put somebody out of business for the exercise of First Amendment rights.

“Judges want cases to get resolved as quickly and efficiently as possible,” said Stuart Karle, former general counsel to The Wall Street Journal and an experienced First Amendment lawyer. “One of the first things any judge will look at is that letter, and they are likely to be very skeptical of the motivations behind Mr. Snyder’s efforts to litigate this case.”

Mr. Snyder’s decision to file in New York, historically not a great theater for the Redskins’ endeavors, is an odd one.

Posted by: Pepper5 | February 8, 2011 8:22 PM | Report abuse

“It’s curious that he chose to file in New York, which is not where City Paper is located, not where Mr. Snyder lives and isn’t where the Redskins play,” said Michael Schaffer, editor of City Paper. He then joked, “Maybe he will have better luck with a jury that’s composed of Giants fans.”

To its credit, the owners of City Paper did what any self-respecting media owner would do. They turned the threatening letters over to their lawyer, Seth Berlin of Levine Sullivan Koch & Schulz. (Floyd Abrams, an eminent First Amendment lawyer, has since been retained as well.)

“I guess I was perplexed by their approach,” Mr. Berlin said of the Snyder team. He pointed out that City Paper had offered to correct any mistakes. “The whole package, the letters before, the complaint, they all seemed intended to threaten my client if they did not take a particular course of actions, including getting rid of Mr. McKenna.”

Mr. Abrams added, “This litigation is so self-evidently lacking in merit and so ludicrous on its face that it is difficult to imagine that it was commenced for any reason but to seek to intimidate.”

Ms. Glaser said efforts to cast the case as David vs. Goliath were misguided.

“Because we have something called freedom of the press, which I very much believe in, it’s very important to get the facts right. Mr. Snyder has never sued a media organization, but you can’t just accuse my client of criminal conduct and expect to get away with it,” she said.

Sports team owners, a historically entitled bunch — you don’t buy the biggest toys in town unless you feel you deserve them — are particularly sensitive to the tough coverage that goes with owning a sports franchise. And if Mr. Snyder really wanted to quash the City Paper article, the lawsuit didn’t help.

The Washington Post, which first reported the news, has run several articles about the lawsuit, and it most likely generated more coverage, more comment and more traffic than the original piece did when it was published.

In fact, the coverage was probably set off by a letter from Mr. Snyder’s lawyers asking The Washington Post to retain e-mail correspondence between Mr. McKenna and a blogger at the newspaper in hopes it would establish some kind of conspiracy, which is an odd legal tack to say the least.

The complaint manages to sound both haughty and wounded, suggesting City Paper “crossed every line of ethics and decency.” What the newspaper seems really guilty of is picking a target with a lot of time and money on his hands. It is the off-season, after all.

Posted by: Pepper5 | February 8, 2011 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Pepper5 | February 8, 2011 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Pepper, I don't have time for Snyder/CityPaper bs. I couldn't care less about it. Let's talk Skins.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 8, 2011 8:39 PM | Report abuse

MoeQuote:

A friend in need is a friend you don't need as a friend with weed makes you forget what you need.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 8, 2011 8:47 PM | Report abuse


but some of you beep beep and others...are just snotty nosed disgruntled fair weather know it alls who think your perfect.. and honestly..its pretty damn annoying...to the rest of you......HAIL

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 6:31 PM |
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Co-sign on that. You have a ticket for the Optimism Bus 2011.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 6:36 PM |
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co-sign, stamp, agree, yes indeed

today I posted that I'd like the redskins to stay away from big money, high dollar FA's singings. some posters that followed accused me of not wanting to sign FA's.

one more time, the packers have 1, one FA on their roster. he is the heart and soul of their team.

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Call me what you want but I'm a standup guy

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 8, 2011 7:44 PM

The only thing I called you was hypocritical for coming up here and throwing your elbows at people, doing the same thing you accused us of. You called me/us in three successive posts: "immature idiots," "snotty nosed disgruntled fair weather know it alls who think your perfect" and an ass.

When I asked you what this was about you went back and discovered it wasn't even me you had a beef with. Sorry, but that's not my idea of "a standup guy." The standup guys are discussing substance, not calling names.

And your advice to me? 'its always better to be quiet and thought a fool than to be a loudmouth and remove all doubt"

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 9:04 PM | Report abuse

co-sign, stamp, agree, yes indeed

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 8:51 PM

What a buffoon. You come up here and "co-sign" on a post that's two hours old and where the guy already admitted that he had it wrong -- his vitriol was directed at another blogger. hessone: often wrong, never in doubt.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 9:13 PM | Report abuse


beep-beep: nit pickin troll, many a sock puppet

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 9:16 PM | Report abuse

co-sign, stamp, agree, yes indeed

today I posted that I'd like the redskins to stay away from big money, high dollar FA's singings. some posters that followed accused me of not wanting to sign FA's.

one more time, the packers have 1, one FA on their roster. he is the heart and soul of their team.


Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry hess, I'm not buying it. We have one 1st and one 2nd round pick, and a bunch of 5's, 6's and a 7. If you suddenly choose to grow through the draft, it will be 5-7 years before you get better. In the meantime, you will have a slew of top 5 picks to strengthen your team. I'm sure Shanny is not willing to wait 5-7 years, since he has only 4 yrs remaining on his contract. And no, I'm not willing to wait that long either.

So get used to the idea that we are rebuiding through FA. The key is to get young up-and-comers who won't eat up cap space, assuming we get another cap.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 8, 2011 9:20 PM | Report abuse

So far 3 guys, Tandler, Chris Russell and Jasno have written about Moss not resigning with Redskins. Tandler justifies it but I still don't like the idea of losing our most productive receiver and creating another need to fill.

http://realredskins.com/2011/02/will-moss-departure-signal-a-new-way-of-doing-business/

Posted by: will_ga | February 8, 2011 9:22 PM | Report abuse


You come up here and "co-sign" on a post that's two hours old and where the guy already admitted that he had it wrong

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 9:13 PM |
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validated,

king beep is on the board all the time, hence, he is exactly as described by scottmando1,

hyper critical winey ass nerds who think that because you post on here every day of your life that you are somehow more intelligent than the rest of us

love it

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 9:24 PM | Report abuse

If you suddenly choose to grow through the draft, it will be 5-7 years before you get better...

It's even more complicated than that.

The browns/lions have had a ton of top picks over the years, and haven't improved at all.

The singular over-riding factor in team improvement today is finding an elite quarterback, then building a team around him in the way NBA teams used to developed around a 7'0 center.

Without AR, the packers are the lions.

Without Big Ben, the steelers are the browns.

The redskin haven't had an elite quarterback in the modern passing era.

And until the franchise locates one, all this noise about o-line, building through the draft, running backs, etc. is just that.

Without an elite passer weren't neither the steelers nor the packers.

We're the redskins and all the mediority the franchise has underscored since whupping Buffalo in a Super Bowl from long ago.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 8, 2011 9:30 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry hess, I'm not buying it. We have one 1st and one 2nd round pick, and a bunch of 5's, 6's and a 7. If you suddenly choose to grow through the draft, it will be 5-7 years before you get better. In the meantime, you will have a slew of top 5 picks to strengthen your team. I'm sure Shanny is not willing to wait 5-7 years, since he has only 4 yrs remaining on his contract. And no, I'm not willing to wait that long either.

So get used to the idea that we are rebuiding through FA. The key is to get young up-and-comers who won't eat up cap space, assuming we get another cap.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 8, 2011 9:20 PM |
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understood fred. my concern is we overdue FA's, as in the past. I realize we have a good cap manager in allen, but it's shanahan and allen's talent eval and a win now approach that could mean the big signings. great thing about it is, we get to see it played out.

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 9:33 PM | Report abuse

So far 3 guys, Tandler, Chris Russell and Jasno have written about Moss not resigning with Redskins. Tandler justifies it but I still don't like the idea of losing our most productive receiver and creating another need to fill.

http://realredskins.com/2011/02/will-moss-departure-signal-a-new-way-of-doing-business/

Posted by: will_ga | February 8, 2011 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Interesting read by Tandler. Here's his conclusion:

"But none of them are likely to be productive when the Redskins are ready to contend for a title. It is better to start the rebuilding process now and get the team back on the road to recovery.

The bottom line is that the Redskins went 4-12 and 6-10 with Moss, Daniels, and others. Odds are that they can post a similar record without them and get on the road back to respectability."

And as much as I would like to see SM and CP and PD next year, I have to agree with Tandler, that the next 2 years will not get us closer to the playoffs. So maybe it's time to cut these guys, and develop the youth that we need for 2012 and beyond.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 8, 2011 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Tandler justifies it but I still don't like the idea of losing our most productive receiver and creating another need to fill.

Posted by: will_ga | February 8, 2011 9:22 PM

First off, Jason LaCanfora's the only one who's said the Redskins won't offer him a contract and he doesn't have a very good record with his Redskins inside information. But, even if he's right this time, I thought Tandler made a strong case for letting him go.

You can't get younger unless you let the old players go and replace them with young players. Moss would be, at most, a one or two year player for the 'Skins and while he plays he halts the development of a youngster.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 9:36 PM | Report abuse

So glad Jason Reid has moved on. He was no Jason La Canfora....Later Dude!! All I want is more reporting and updates.

Good Luck Mike Jones!!

Posted by: BryDaze | February 8, 2011 9:36 PM | Report abuse

understood fred. my concern is we overdue FA's, as in the past. I realize we have a good cap manager in allen, but it's shanahan and allen's talent eval and a win now approach that could mean the big signings. great thing about it is, we get to see it played out.


Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 9:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't see the "win now" approach there, hess. Who did they chase last year in FA. There were some big names out there, and this FO did not throw money at them. I think they will again go with younger FA's who do not command top dollar. But we do need to sign a bunch of FA's. Maybe 4-6! And that's a lot. Plus resign JBrown, Los(if reasonable), Heyer, RDoughty.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 8, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Who did they chase last year in FA. There were some big names out there, and this FO did not throw money at them. I think they will again go with younger FA's who do not command top dollar. But we do need to sign a bunch of FA's. Maybe 4-6! And that's a lot. Plus resign JBrown, Los(if reasonable), Heyer, RDoughty.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 8, 2011 9:42 PM

I wish they had chased a few FA's instead of trading away draft picks for Brown and McNabb. I thought that was where they showed the "win now" attitude.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Without an elite passer weren't neither the steelers nor the packers.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 8, 2011 9:30 PM |
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moe

how did the steelers and packers aquire their elite passers ?

that's what I thought

they were drafted by those teams

rodgers was drafted in 2005,and it took the packers since 2005 for their elite passer to bring home the lombardi trophy

that's not the win now approach

also, the approach the packers use is to not trade draft picks and build through the draft


Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 9:50 PM | Report abuse


I wish they had chased a few FA's instead of trading away draft picks for Brown and McNabb. I thought that was where they showed the "win now" attitude.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 8, 2011 9:46 PM |
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don't fall out of your chair beep, but I have to agree with you on that one

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 9:54 PM | Report abuse

The problem with free agency and the Redskins is simple. The team has overpaid too many times for guys, making them complacent.

No need to reiterate the list of free agents the Skins have signed in the past decade, we are all too familiar with them.

The key is getting those medium range players that don't demand large contracts.

This means players like Vincent Jackson and Logan Mankins should be out of the question.

Instead the team should reward their own drafted players for proven team performance. Landry and Orakpo for instance should be rewarded when the time is due.

Albert Haynesworth was handsomely compensated for dominant play...with Tennessee.

If Armstrong, Torain and Banks prove themselves they should also be rewarded by the company they work for.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 10:07 PM | Report abuse


I don't see the "win now" approach there, hess. Who did they chase last year in FA. There were some big names out there, and this FO did not throw money at them.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 8, 2011 9:42 PM |
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no telling who they'll sign in FA'ncy, but I would think it would be at the talent positions on offense.

the redskins will draft defense with the first two picks, then go o-line, with trading down a possibility


Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 10:09 PM | Report abuse


The problem with free agency and the Redskins is simple. The team has overpaid too many times for guys, making them complacent.

No need to reiterate the list of free agents the Skins have signed in the past decade, we are all too familiar with them.

The key is getting those medium range players that don't demand large contracts.

This means players like Vincent Jackson and Logan Mankins should be out of the question.

Instead the team should reward their own drafted players for proven team performance. Landry and Orakpo for instance should be rewarded when the time is due.

Albert Haynesworth was handsomely compensated for dominant play...with Tennessee.

If Armstrong, Torain and Banks prove themselves they should also be rewarded by the company they work for.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 10:07 PM |
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spoken like a true journalist.

I agree with staying away from mankins and vjax

and I like the idea of growing your own

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 10:14 PM | Report abuse

spoken like a true journalist.

I agree with staying away from mankins and vjax

and I like the idea of growing your own

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 10:14 PM | Report abuse

I trust that Bruce Allen will be frugal with Dan Snyder's wallet.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Who had the worse week?

A. Jerry Jones

B. Daniel Snyder

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 10:28 PM | Report abuse

spoken like a true journalist.

I agree with staying away from mankins and vjax

and I like the idea of growing your own

Posted by: hessone | February 8, 2011 10:14 PM |

Just curious but why would you want to stay away from Mankins? I can see staying away from Vagina Jackson, dude has flags out the ass and has only one season worth the money but Mankins has always been solid. Won't matter, he'll get franchised but just curious. We need FA's that can play, we won't get all our needs filled through the draft.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 10:55 PM | Report abuse

As I've been saying when the Mallett talk has come up..

Talk builds of potential draft-day plunge for Ryan Mallett

Posted by Evan Silva on February 8, 2011, 10:22 PM EST

One month ago, we passed along a report from NFL Network’s Albert Breer stating that Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett’s draft stock would be adversely affected by “off-field issues.”

Though we’ve yet to uncover any damning specifics aside from Mallett’s seemingly harmless 2009 arrest for public intoxication, Breer’s report appears to be backed up by Adam Caplan of FOXSports.com.

Caplan wrote on Twitter Tuesday night that Mallett is “almost certain” to drop out of the first round of April’s draft, even going so far as to say it “wouldn’t shock (Caplan) to see Mallett fall to the third (round).” Similar to Breer, Caplan cites “baggage, and not the kind you carry” as the main reason for Mallett’s projected draft-day slip.

ESPN’s Mel Kiper recently removed Mallett from his Big Board of top-25 prospects.

Mallett has a cannon arm, ideal pocket passer build at 6-foot-6 and 238 pounds, and set Arkansas records for career passing yards, touchdowns, and 300-yard games. With roughly 11 weeks to go before the draft, however, the writing on the wall says Mallett won’t be among the first 32 players selected on April 28.

Adjust your mock draft accordingly.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 8, 2011 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Just curious but why would you want to stay away from Mankins? I can see staying away from Vagina Jackson, dude has flags out the ass and has only one season worth the money but Mankins has always been solid. Won't matter, he'll get franchised but just curious. We need FA's that can play, we won't get all our needs filled through the draft.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 10:55 PM | Report abuse

The reason I hope the team would not pursue him is simple. He will demand a massive contract, hoping to set up his family for the rest of their lives.

There is nothing wrong with that, who wouldn't want that money? But that kind of spending has never worked out for this team.

The one "splash" free agent move that is paying dividends is DeAngelo Hall.

Plus Mankins was really losing his cool in the playoffs.

I think the Redskins really need to ride that second wave of free agency, after Jackson and company are gone.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Mallett has a cannon arm, ideal pocket passer build at 6-foot-6 and 238 pounds, and set Arkansas records for career passing yards, touchdowns, and 300-yard games. With roughly 11 weeks to go before the draft, however, the writing on the wall says Mallett won’t be among the first 32 players selected on April 28.

Adjust your mock draft accordingly.


Posted by: Diesel44 | February 8, 2011 11:06 PM | Report abuse

If he does fall to the 2nd or 3rd round would you take him?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 11:08 PM | Report abuse

I saw "Team Newton" on NFLN. I like his personality, but that dude seems to be allowing all the non-football stuff distract him during this draft process. It reminds me of when Braylon Edwards came out. Braylon had a marketing team setting him up with modeling gigs and what nots. Here's Cam Newton starts working on Cam Newton.

Posted by: TWISI | February 8, 2011 11:19 PM | Report abuse

If he does fall to the 2nd or 3rd round would you take him?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 11:08 PM |

We'd have to use our 2nd (no 3rd) and I still wouldn't. I'd take Ponder or Kaepernick before him.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 8, 2011 11:21 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing wrong with that, who wouldn't want that money? But that kind of spending has never worked out for this team.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 11:06 PM

When dealing with a new FO and a whole new coaching staff, past performance of this organization is NOT a good predictor of the future. The only way that matters is if you assume Danny is still calling the shots. Huge contracts have typically worked out for this team for a few reasons:
1) Those contracts were paid to over the hill players at the end of careers. Danny paid for names. ie. D. Sanders, B. Smith
2) Red flags were ignored. ie. Haynesworth
3) Certain players were coveted without any regard to their body of work (or lack thereof). ie. Archuletta, Lloyd, Canidate

Obviously guys like Trotter weren't paid a boatload and had a decent body of work, no red flags, and fit the system...they just didn't pan out for us.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 11:23 PM | Report abuse

If he does fall to the 2nd or 3rd round would you take him?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 11:08 PM |

We'd have to use our 2nd (no 3rd) and I still wouldn't. I'd take Ponder or Kaepernick before him.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 8, 2011 11:21 PM | Report abuse

I what I have seen from Ponder.

However I have only seen the Youtube highlights of Kaepernick, and they are mostly of him running.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 11:24 PM | Report abuse

If he does fall to the 2nd or 3rd round would you take him?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 11:08 PM |

We'd have to use our 2nd (no 3rd) and I still wouldn't. I'd take Ponder or Kaepernick before him.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 8, 2011 11:21 PM |

I would...Ponder looked like a dirty bag of butholes in his biggest game yet...no thanks.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 11:26 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing wrong with that, who wouldn't want that money? But that kind of spending has never worked out for this team.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 11:06 PM

When dealing with a new FO and a whole new coaching staff, past performance of this organization is NOT a good predictor of the future. The only way that matters is if you assume Danny is still calling the shots. Huge contracts have typically worked out for this team for a few reasons:
1) Those contracts were paid to over the hill players at the end of careers. Danny paid for names. ie. D. Sanders, B. Smith
2) Red flags were ignored. ie. Haynesworth
3) Certain players were coveted without any regard to their body of work (or lack thereof). ie. Archuletta, Lloyd, Canidate

Obviously guys like Trotter weren't paid a boatload and had a decent body of work, no red flags, and fit the system...they just didn't pan out for us.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 11:23 PM | Report abuse

On one hand I believe this team would be better with Mankins on it.

On the other hand, as a Redskins fan I cringe at the thought of another high-priced free agent.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 11:28 PM | Report abuse

On one hand I believe this team would be better with Mankins on it.

On the other hand, as a Redskins fan I cringe at the thought of another high-priced free agent.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 8, 2011 11:28 PM |

I hear ya. Pavlovian. I'm not frightened of it, it just needs to be done responsibly and not because of some "splash" theory or man crush.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Mankins a malcontent with a good team? Imagine how happy he would be here. Collect his final paycheck(s) and do nothing. Don't know if Shanny would put up with that long. I have to admit, I haven't followed the guy, if I'm wrong, let me know.

Posted by: msrent | February 8, 2011 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Mankins a malcontent with a good team? Imagine how happy he would be here. Collect his final paycheck(s) and do nothing. Don't know if Shanny would put up with that long. I have to admit, I haven't followed the guy, if I'm wrong, let me know.

Posted by: msrent | February 8, 2011 11:43 PM |

It's my understanding that he has a contract dispute in which he believed he was going to be an unrestricted FA last year until the CBA cancelled and made him a restricted FA. He was tendered and didn't like it. Sounds familiar huh? Just about everyone that happened to was unhappy. Not exactly a malcontent.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 11:47 PM | Report abuse

But didn't he hold out for a few weeks? That's a bit different than most of those in similar situations?

Posted by: msrent | February 8, 2011 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Logan Mankins quote:

"After the 2008 season, me and my agent approached the Patriots about an extension and I was told that Mr. Kraft did not want to do an extension because of the [uncertain collective bargaining agreement]," Mankins said last June. "I was asked to play '09 out, and that they would address the contract during the uncapped year. I'm a team player, I took them at their word, and I felt I played out an undervalued contract.

"That's the big thing. Right now, this is about principle with me and keeping your word and how you treat people. This is what I thought the foundation of the Patriots was built on. Apparently, I was wrong. Growing up, I was taught a man's word is his bond. Obviously this isn't the case with the Patriots."

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Can't say I blame him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2011 11:58 PM | Report abuse

But didn't he hold out for a few weeks? That's a bit different than most of those in similar situations?

Posted by: msrent | February 8, 2011 11:57 PM |

He and Jackson both held out. He was pissed about what he felt was wrong. I believe in standing up for what I believe in to.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 12:00 AM | Report abuse

LOGAN MANKINS? I've heard of him. What position does he play? Whatever it is welcome to the REDSKINS, LOGAN.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 9, 2011 12:03 AM | Report abuse

LOGAN MANKINS? I've heard of him. What position does he play? Whatever it is welcome to the REDSKINS, LOGAN.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 9, 2011 12:03 AM |

You're still the same old idiot you've always been. Keep reading tea cup and you'll see how LOGAN MANKINS pertains to the REDSKINS in this case. Asshat.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Was anybody else hoping that Alex Gibbs might make his way back to Shanahan after an early departure with Seattle? I am guessing this move would preclude that, unless he comes in some sort of consultant role.

Posted by: ripperb | February 9, 2011 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Was anybody else hoping that Alex Gibbs might make his way back to Shanahan after an early departure with Seattle? I am guessing this move would preclude that, unless he comes in some sort of consultant role.

Posted by: ripperb | February 9, 2011 12:07 AM |

Don't talk about Alex Gibbs on here. He's not a Redskin and glawrence will cry if you do.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 12:11 AM | Report abuse

I do agree he has the right to feel as he does. Not sure what his tender offer was, but if he signed it, it's a contract, meaning he accepts the conditions. I think I recall he signed it and then honored it (prorated to games played I assume). Fat Albert also argued (lamely) that he took the Skins for their word as to how he was to be used (but then after knowing how MS was planning to use him, still took his $21M bonus, not really a true comparison)

Posted by: msrent | February 9, 2011 12:14 AM | Report abuse

I do agree he has the right to feel as he does. Not sure what his tender offer was, but if he signed it, it's a contract, meaning he accepts the conditions. I think I recall he signed it and then honored it (prorated to games played I assume). Fat Albert also argued (lamely) that he took the Skins for their word as to how he was to be used (but then after knowing how MS was planning to use him, still took his $21M bonus, not really a true comparison)

Posted by: msrent | February 9, 2011 12:14 AM | Report

His original tender was around $3.4 mil. His prorated signing was $1.something mil. Anyway, to me this isn't the typical "red flag" such as DUI's, stomping players heads, multiple injuries, or "making it rain."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 12:25 AM | Report abuse

He did NOT sign his tender until he ended his hold out, by the way.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 12:27 AM | Report abuse

His original tender was around $3.4 mil. His prorated signing was $1.something mil. Anyway, to me this isn't the typical "red flag" such as DUI's, stomping players heads, multiple injuries, or "making it rain."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 12:25 AM |
He did NOT sign his tender until he ended his hold out, by the way.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 12:27 AM

I certainly have to agree there, it isn't a moral chacter issue.
It was a principle thing to him, and I respect his right to exercise that. It does show a bit of "me before the team" attitude. That is all I'm getting at here.

Posted by: msrent | February 9, 2011 12:37 AM | Report abuse

So he and Tom Cable are the ones JC8 has to thank for having a successful season......

Interesting..........

Posted by: 4thFloor

He owes a bigger vote of thanks to whoever traded him from the redskins.

Posted by: TheCork | February 9, 2011 12:39 AM | Report abuse

It does show a bit of "me before the team" attitude. That is all I'm getting at here.

Posted by: msrent | February 9, 2011 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Well, If he's telling the truth it actually shows that with Kraft it's "me before the team." Everyone wants to be told the truth and not feel disrespected.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Well, If he's telling the truth it actually shows that with Kraft it's "me before the team." Everyone wants to be told the truth and not feel disrespected.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 12:42 AM

Can't disagree, I've been known to bite my nose off to spite my face based on principle and what I feel is right.
I've got to get up in a few hours to honor my contract.
It's been good talking with you again Scott. Hope all is well.
Good night, and may God bless.

Posted by: msrent | February 9, 2011 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Can't disagree, I've been known to bite my nose off to spite my face based on principle and what I feel is right.
I've got to get up in a few hours to honor my contract.
It's been good talking with you again Scott. Hope all is well.
Good night, and may God bless.

Posted by: msrent | February 9, 2011 12:50 AM |

You too. Good night.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 12:52 AM | Report abuse

FINALLY....an article on the WaPo that is actually related to the football side of things and not the media generated fluff about stuff off the field.

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | February 9, 2011 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Anyone get a chance to read JReid's first column?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/08/AR2011020805137.html

Seems like he's reluctant to let go of his reporter roots (consciously or subconsciously) because save for the first 2 paragraphs and the last one, it whole damn column reads like one of his Redskins-related articles. Lots of fact and very little opinion. I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt since it's his first column, but if his stuff is gonna look like that moving forward then he's gonna end up behind Tracee Hamilton and Mike Wise in the WaPo Power Rankings...if it's even possible to rank lower than those two...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 5:39 AM | Report abuse

This might be our 2nd round pick...ugh...


Talk builds of potential draft-day plunge for Ryan Mallett

Posted by Evan Silva on February 8, 2011, 10:22 PM EST


One month ago, we passed along a report from NFL Network’s Albert Breer stating that Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett’s draft stock would be adversely affected by “off-field issues.”

Though we’ve yet to uncover any damning specifics aside from Mallett’s seemingly harmless 2009 arrest for public intoxication, Breer’s report appears to be backed up by Adam Caplan of FOXSports.com.

Caplan wrote on Twitter Tuesday night that Mallett is “almost certain” to drop out of the first round of April’s draft, even going so far as to say it “wouldn’t shock (Caplan) to see Mallett fall to the third (round).” Similar to Breer, Caplan cites “baggage, and not the kind you carry” as the main reason for Mallett’s projected draft-day slip.

ESPN’s Mel Kiper recently removed Mallett from his Big Board of top-25 prospects.

Mallett has a cannon arm, ideal pocket passer build at 6-foot-6 and 238 pounds, and set Arkansas records for career passing yards, touchdowns, and 300-yard games. With roughly 11 weeks to go before the draft, however, the writing on the wall says Mallett won’t be among the first 32 players selected on April 28.

Adjust your mock draft accordingly.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 5:58 AM | Report abuse

Hey Beep...I know we were discussing this yesterday but I just read this on PFT...to me, THIS is an acceptable move by the NFL to right the wrong with the SB ticket fiasco:

NFL offers second option to fans that lost Super Bowl seat

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 8, 2011, 6:54 PM EST


The NFL continues to try to dig out from Sunday’s ticket blunder, giving the 400 ticket holders that didn’t get seats a second option for attending a future Super Bowl.

The NFL just released a statement saying those 400 fans that missed the game live can choose from one of two options:

1. A free ticket to next year’s Super Bowl game plus a cash payment of $2,400 (three times the face value of the Super Bowl XLV game ticket held by the individual). The ticket to next year’s Super Bowl game is transferable.

That option we knew about. Fans can also take less choice and get a different Super Bowl ticket. Here’s the second option:

2. One free ticket to a future Super Bowl game of the fan’s choice, including next year’s if so desired, plus round-trip airfare and hotel accommodations provided by the NFL. This offer will be personalized in the ticketholder’s name and is not transferable.”

The addition of the second option is a nice bonus. (Hint: Door No. 2 is better. Especially if it’s in New Orleans.)

The NFL continues to look for all 400 of the ticketholders, in conjunction of the Packers, Steelers, and Cowboys. If you are one of these fans, email you can email SBXLV@nfl.com. A “senior NFL staff member” will call fans to provide information on fulfilling the fan’s choice.

It’s unclear if fans will have to sign a release to get a future ticket. It is clear the NFL is doing its best to prevent future lawsuits.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 6:05 AM | Report abuse

brownwood--

I just put the column down and thought, what the point? Even his lead was weak -- "Wilbon told me not to write about the Redskins, but I can't help myself...."

I feel like the Post -- in all sections -- is making itself irrelevant. Hamilton and Reid for Kornheiser and Wilbon. Fischer was moved to a non-writing developmental job. The news pages are chock full of attitude. Book review is gone. Etc. And, for me, the final straw was when the food section published its annual Super Bowl party recipes and they were all vegetarian except for "chile" with chicken in it. "Come on in and enjoy the game. Won't you have some carrots and chick peas?"

Posted by: beep-beep | February 9, 2011 6:11 AM | Report abuse

brownwood -- I think the principle they're looking for with the 400 who didn't get in is to make everyone else feel envious. "Damn, I wish they'd kept me out in the cold. I'd much rather have what those guys got." I don't know what it is, but since it's "only" 400 people (out of 100,000+) it shouldn't cost the NFL that much. I think they should start with footballs autographed by the entire team that they supported, limited edition mock Super Bowl rings for Green Bay fans and AFC championship rings for Steeler fans, etc. The NFL can deliver things that money can't buy and they should.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 9, 2011 6:20 AM | Report abuse

Beep, right on both counts...the WaPo is becoming a total joke now, and I don't think it's because we're getting old and simply recall "the good old days"...there's a noted decrease in quality writing here and it's really sad considering some of the giants in journalism that used to write for this publication.

As for the 400 (sounds like the sequel to "300" doesn't it?), your idea is a good one but I like the two options the NFL is giving them. It's about as close to a win-win as you can get under the circumstance, IMO.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 6:30 AM | Report abuse


glad to see jerry jones brand new stadium giving him a black eye, although he'd never admit it. first the scoreboard problem, then the cowboys first full season is a dud, with no SB at home. it was unfortunate that some folks were injured by ice falling from the roof, but none the less, lawsuits are probably in order. the 400 folks that got screwed sunday may get compensated well, but if you were a fan of the packers or steelers, it's got to be a heart breaker.

Posted by: hessone | February 9, 2011 6:46 AM | Report abuse

but if you were a fan of the packers or steelers, it's got to be a heart breaker.

Posted by: hessone | February 9, 2011 6:46 AM

I hope all 400 of these broken hearted fans were from "Steelers Nation." Only thing better would have been if the Cowboys had gone to the SB, 400 of their ragamuffins were out in the cold, and then they lost to the Steelers by 54-6.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 9, 2011 7:11 AM | Report abuse

glad to see jerry jones brand new stadium giving him a black eye, although he'd never admit it. first the scoreboard problem, then the cowboys first full season is a dud, with no SB at home. it was unfortunate that some folks were injured by ice falling from the roof, but none the less, lawsuits are probably in order. the 400 folks that got screwed sunday may get compensated well, but if you were a fan of the packers or steelers, it's got to be a heart breaker.

Posted by: hessone | February 9, 2011 6:46 AM | Report abuse

I would be mad beyond belief.

I would ask the NFL to pay for season tickets for my team. Front row, 50 yard line...for life.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 7:12 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Jessica Parker is U-G-L-Y she ain't got no alibi, she's ugly.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Jessica Parker is U-G-L-Y she ain't got no alibi, she's ugly.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 7:23 AM |

I have never understood what that woman has going for her. Well, aside from those.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 9, 2011 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like a good hire. Maybe he will be able to get something out of those scrubs on the developmental roster, and teach Lichtensteiger how not to flop, drop and roll.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 7:36 AM | Report abuse


Sarah Jessica Parker is U-G-L-Y she ain't got no alibi, she's ugly.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 7:23 AM |

I have never understood what that woman has going for her. Well, aside from those.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 9, 2011 7:29 AM

SJP is easily the most overrated chick in Hollywood. Even in the "real world" she's a last call hook-up and nothing more. I wouldn't hit that with Beep's dick and PA pushin'...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Nope on the O-lineman. This draft is about defensive linemen, plus about 3 or 4 3-4 OLBs. If they can't move down from #10, then it should be one of those guys. If they can, then O-line would be a great idea, but they still have massive defensive needs opposite Orakpo and in the middle. Myself, now I'm thinking that the second round pick should be Mikel Leshoure, RB, but I repeat myself about how to keep games close, fans in the seat, while building a team through the draft and player development, rather than fee agency.
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OFFENSIVE LINEMEN!

Dude were you watching last season?


Posted by: shamken | February 9, 2011 7:43 AM | Report abuse

brownwood--

I just put the column down and thought, what the point? Even his lead was weak -- "Wilbon told me not to write about the Redskins, but I can't help myself...."

I feel like the Post -- in all sections -- is making itself irrelevant. Hamilton and Reid for Kornheiser and Wilbon. Fischer was moved to a non-writing developmental job. The news pages are chock full of attitude. Book review is gone. Etc. And, for me, the final straw was when the food section published its annual Super Bowl party recipes and they were all vegetarian except for "chile" with chicken in it. "Come on in and enjoy the game. Won't you have some carrots and chick peas?"

Posted by: beep-beep | February 9, 2011 6:11 AM
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Beeps, I don't live in the DMV, so I don't get the paper (probably wouldn't buy the liberal toilet paper anyway). About the only thing the WaPo has of interest to me is this blog, and that is largely because of the people who post on it - not the largely insignificant drivel at the top of the blog.

When they do post something, it almost always has an anti-Redskin tone to it. Hey, I don't expect sunshine and roses every day, but when you have to spin every Haynesworth flare up as the fault of the Redskins, you truly don't understand the market you serve.

Let's face it, though. The blog is probably getting the dregs of the journalism world because it is not a money maker. For this I also blame the WaPo. Look to the screen on your right. That is prime advertising space, but somehow the morons the Post has developing their websites can't seem to master a scrolling window for the blog. Once you get past three or four posts the advertisement is no longer visible. There might be a hundred people that look at this site in a day, and they miss out on the only chance to get the blog to pay for itself.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Jessica Parker is U-G-L-Y she ain't got no alibi, she's ugly.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 7:23 AM |

I have never understood what that woman has going for her. Well, aside from those.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 9, 2011 7:29 AM

SJP is easily the most overrated chick in Hollywood. Even in the "real world" she's a last call hook-up and nothing more. I wouldn't hit that with Beep's dick and PA pushin'...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 7:40 AM
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Your chic evaluator license was pulled right after the Pelosi comments, Brown, but I'll agree SJP has a face that even plastic surgery couldn't fix.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 7:57 AM | Report abuse

SJP is easily the most overrated chick in Hollywood.

SJP is over-rated (although I admit to luvin' Sex in the City--Samantha was the Fav chick).

My under-rated Hollywood-Music World List:

Megan Good

Lauren London

Zoe Saldana

Alicia Keys

Sofia Vergara

Stacey Dash

Keri Hilson


Yeah, they all sistas, but hey, the racist in me knows only one thing:

When the lights go off in the bedroom, a woman's skin color doesn't mattah.

'Cuz what you want is pink on the inside.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 7:57 AM | Report abuse

SJP is easily the most overrated chick in Hollywood.

SJP is over-rated (although I admit to luvin' Sex in the City--Samantha was the Fav chick).

My under-rated Hollywood-Music World List:

Megan Good

Lauren London

Zoe Saldana

Alicia Keys

Sofia Vergara

Stacey Dash

Keri Hilson


Yeah, they all sistas, but hey, the racist in me knows only one thing:

When the lights go off in the bedroom, a woman's skin color doesn't mattah.

'Cuz what you want is pink on the inside.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 7:57 AM
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Moe, I think you are skirting around the point - you want a chic in your bed that makes you want to leave the lights on.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 7:59 AM | Report abuse

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN!

Dude were you watching last season?


Posted by: shamken | February 9, 2011 7:43 AM

Dude, nobody's saying "don't get O-lineman"...just that this ain't the draft to do it. You've got guys like Ryan Harris and Logan Mankins available in FA that could help here so it doesn't make sense to reach for a guy in this draft when you could get one or two studs for this new 3-4 defense. Last year's draft was the time to load up on young O-lineman and the Skins missed their opportunity to do so by giving up the 2nd rounder for McNabb.

So no more jamming round pegs into square holes...this draft is rife with 3-4 talent and we need to capitalize. Repeating last year's mistake only sets us back further.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:00 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead

Let's consider just one those females


Stacey Dash


She's in her forties, has had kids, is divorced, and has been fine as hell since she was in Clueless back in the day.

She and Vanessa Williams are two definate MILFs.

But Dash hasn't had the big film/media career you'd expect.

That woman is fine as hell and would take the bag and all the chips from this brother.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Your chic evaluator license was pulled right after the Pelosi comments, Brown, but I'll agree SJP has a face that even plastic surgery couldn't fix.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 7:57 AM


Haha, that was tongue-in-cheek dude...I'm amazed at how many people up here still remember that.

Oh, and more like "SJP has a face that a gasoline bath and fire towel can't fix"...

Moe, great list...although with black men there's absolutely no chance you could call Stacey Dash underrated...she was what we aspired to bang just before Halle Berry burst onto the scene. And Alicia Keys would probably be right behind Beyonce as singer we want to bang the most.

Funny you bring up Vergara though...I was just looking up some of her "greatest hits" this morning. SMOKIN' HOT...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:11 AM | Report abuse

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN!

Dude were you watching last season?

Posted by: shamken | February 9, 2011 7:43 AM

Dude, nobody's saying "don't get O-lineman"...just that this ain't the draft to do it. You've got guys like Ryan Harris and Logan Mankins available in FA that could help here so it doesn't make sense to reach for a guy in this draft when you could get one or two studs for this new 3-4 defense. Last year's draft was the time to load up on young O-lineman and the Skins missed their opportunity to do so by giving up the 2nd rounder for McNabb.

So no more jamming round pegs into square holes...this draft is rife with 3-4 talent and we need to capitalize. Repeating last year's mistake only sets us back further.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:00 AM
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Brown, I think Ryan Harris will be affordable, but Mankins will break the bank. Allen won't sign him. I also worry if they will be able to re-sign J. Brown - if they even want to re-sign J. Brown. There is offensive line talent in this draft outside of the first round. Would like to see a nose tackle taken first and wouldn't mind a bit if they threw the next few picks at offensive linemen. By virtue of the fact that the linebackers are deep in this draft, I think they can afford to wait until the later rounds and still get quality. Having said that, it all depends on what they do in free agency.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 8:16 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Brownwood...if we are sticking with Haslett and his 3-4 then we need the personnel for it or we are gonna suck again. If they don't address getting better pressure on the QB then they better get the best shutdown corner they can find and throw the whole bank at him...either that or get that offense putting up 35 points a game

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 8:19 AM | Report abuse

There is a picture of this new offensive line assistant on the Redskins.com site. I like the dude already. He looks like one of the guys.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 8:19 AM | Report abuse

But Dash hasn't had the big film/media career you'd expect.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 8:10 AM


Um, yes she has. She's smokin' hot and all...but on a good day she's a mediocre actress.

Modeling, music videos and awful Wayans movies are about her speed.

That's why Halle is the preferred option...she's ridiculously hot AND she's a top notch actress.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:19 AM | Report abuse

But Dash hasn't had the big film/media career you'd expect.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 8:10 AM


Um, yes she has. She's smokin' hot and all...but on a good day she's a mediocre actress.

Modeling, music videos and awful Wayans movies are about her speed.

That's why Halle is the preferred option...she's ridiculously hot AND she's a top notch actress.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:19 AM
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You guys are talking about throwing out the Boston Creme Pie for the Cherry Cheesecake. Ain't no way I would miss the opportunity to tag either one - or both. Heck, I'd even sprout another head on the throbbing python to accomodate...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 8:23 AM | Report abuse

brownwood

Funny you bring up Vergara though...I was just looking up some of her "greatest hits" this morning. SMOKIN' HOT...


I gottah eye like a Hollywood pimp when it comes to spottin' what might be good coochie, bro.

One thing we all know, if the face isn't as hot as the body, then that's the one you want to break off as she's the bedroom champion.

The pretty one, you marry.

The hot sleazy one, you see on the down low.

The cute fat one you call the night you're too drunk to drive home.

And she's the one who'll turn you out and make you not want go back home.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't hit that with Beep's dick and PA pushin'...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 7:40 AM

Unless there is a bottle of rum thrown in to this offer, I'll have to respectfully decline as well.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 8:25 AM | Report abuse

I hear ya RSH...but your draft should be dictated by the best way to improve your team right away, not necessarily the most glaring need you've had over the last 4 years. If Pouncey falls to the 2nd round, that's one thing...but chances are we can get a starting NT and a starting OLB with our first two picks and we'd be crazy not to take advantage of what looks like a deep draft at those positions.

We got (hopefully) a franchise LT in last year's draft and we should be able to get at least one starter in FA. Considering the line's improvement down the stretch and the glaring holes on defense, this should be a no-brainer...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:33 AM | Report abuse

My under-rated Hollywood-Music World List:

Megan Good

Lauren London

Zoe Saldana

Alicia Keys

Sofia Vergara

Stacey Dash

Keri Hilson

That is some list right there. Not hating on homie at all, but I can't believe a woman as fine as Lauren London gets knocked up and births Lil Wayne's seed.


Careful though, ih8 might have his menstruation over reading "a top ..." list.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 9, 2011 8:36 AM | Report abuse

You guys are talking about throwing out the Boston Creme Pie for the Cherry Cheesecake. Ain't no way I would miss the opportunity to tag either one - or both. Heck, I'd even sprout another head on the throbbing python to accomodate...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 8:23 AM

I think you missed what we said there...Moe said he thought she'd have a better film career and I said she's a poor actress despite having stellar looks. I'm pretty sure any one of us up here would still break off Stacey Dash even if she told us she had AIDS going in...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:40 AM | Report abuse

"Without Big Ben, the steelers are the browns."


Actually, without Big Ben the Steelers were 3-1. This year. With some guy named Dennis Dixon and another named Charlie Batch.

In the SB, the defense and the running game are what kept the Steelers close.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2011 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Without Big Ben, the steelers are the browns."


Actually, without Big Ben the Steelers were 3-1. This year. With some guy named Dennis Dixon and another named Charlie Batch.

In the SB, the defense and the running game are what kept the Steelers close.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2011 8:41 AM | Report abuse


Actually, aside from those two interceptions (I know they are hard to overlook)Big Bens stats were nearly identical to Aaron Rodgers stats and had they won he may have been the MVP

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Just when I think brown has turned the corner he goes and damns a sista like Stacy Dash with faint praise.

And on top of that, he goes and bad mouths a back in the day classic like "Mo Money"?

The nerve of some people.... "PAY YOUR FARE and COMB YOUR HAIR!!!", brownwood.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 9, 2011 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Just checked out stacy dash...damn!

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 8:49 AM | Report abuse

LOL Red...again, wasn't sayin' Stacey isn't hot because she totally is...just sayin' she's at best a mediocre actress.

Good point on Big Ben, Scott...you'd think Alan of all people would be able to process the "if you take away X, he'd be Y" concept...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:50 AM | Report abuse

The 'Skins are currently last in the NFC East in terms of the QB position. Believe it or not, there is a chance for the team to have one of the better O-lines in the division - which we MUST HAVE, especially later in the season if they expect to be at all relevant. My wish list includes O and D linemen. Outside that, I want speed! Chris Johnson and DeShaun Jackson and Mike Wallace speed. You can't coach it and it definitely kills.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 9, 2011 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Actually, aside from those two interceptions (I know they are hard to overlook)Big Bens stats were nearly identical to Aaron Rodgers stats and had they won he may have been the MVP

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 8:44 AM

I think if the Steelers ran the ball more, they more likely would have won. Overlook Mendenhall's fumble (I know that's hard to overlook as well) and he was killing the Packers.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2011 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Just checked out stacy dash...damn!

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 8:49 AM


Please tell me this isn't the first time you've seen her...

Although, if you're under the age of 25 it's entirely possible you missed her because her hey day ended around the time Favre was running off the field like a 9 year-old with his one and only Super Bowl title.

Funny thing about Stacey is that other women tend to hate on her...my wife, for instance, says "she's not all that if she doesn't have those light eyes". Admittedly, her eyes just sets it off but I'm pretty sure her eye color has ZERO to do with having a smokin' hot body...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:57 AM | Report abuse

The 'Skins are currently last in the NFC East in terms of the QB position.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 9, 2011 8:50 AM


And isn't that stunning for a team with 2 QBs who led their teams to SBs on the roster?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2011 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Jessica Parker is U-G-L-Y she ain't got no alibi, she's ugly.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 7:23 AM |

I have never understood what that woman has going for her. Well, aside from those.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 9, 2011 7:29 AM

Agreed, although I'd still hit it.

F, Marry, Kill (Ugly actress addition)

Sarah J. Parker, Jeanne Garafalo, Tori Spelling

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2011 9:02 AM | Report abuse

The packers gave up 38 sacks last year, the steelers gave up 43 and the skins gave up 46. the steelers rushed for an average of 120/gm while the pack averaged 100/gm and we averaged 91/gm. The difference in our lines isnt so great. If we had remained healthy at RB we surely would have more yards per game and if we didnt give up so many yards and points on defense and actually played with a lead we could have more rushing yards as well. The main thing that kills us is getting the defense off of the field and getting turnovers. AND not having an elite QB to go with that below average line. We put some yards up in the air this year but alot of it was garbage time and alot of it was from necessity and not being able to dictate the flow of the game - all which a dominant defense can do for you with a balanced offense

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Jeanne Garafalo

despicable troll.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2011 9:03 AM | Report abuse

F, Marry, Kill (Ugly actress addition)

Sarah J. Parker, Jeanne Garafalo, Tori Spelling

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2011 9:02 AM


I ain't even gonna lie...I'd do em all in a minute.

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 9:05 AM | Report abuse

F, Marry, Kill (Ugly actress addition)

Sarah J. Parker, Jeanne Garafalo, Tori Spelling

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2011 9:02 AM


I ain't even gonna lie...I'd do em all

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 9:06 AM | Report abuse

alan4

Actually, without Big Ben the Steelers were 3-1. This year. With some guy named Dennis Dixon and another named Charlie Batch.


I wasn't being literal.

What I mean is that there are a number of NFL teams whose fortunes would be very different if they acquired an elite quarterback:

Niners, Cardinals, Browns, Lions, Dolphins

Teams like the listed have running games, receivers, good tight ends, and play good defense.

But they are where they are because they haven't selected the next T Brady or AR12.

And in our case, our fortunes really won't change until we find a guy who is quick, accurate, and can scramble for big yards when things break down.

I don't want the team to take a chance on a quarterback at 10 this year.

But in either round one or two, we should take steps to find a new quarterback.

Right now, C Ponder remains at the top of my list--2nd round.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 9:06 AM | Report abuse

The 'Skins are currently last in the NFC East in terms of the QB position.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 9, 2011 8:50 AM


And isn't that stunning for a team with 2 QBs who led their teams to SBs on the roster?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2011 8:58 AM |

Sexy Rexy didn't lead anyone anywhere and played more of a 'Dilfer' role in the Bears' SB run a few years back. They had a running game, a tough defense and special teams that seemed to run back every other kick for a score. Plus, the Bears' O-line kept Rexy upright and that's what we need now. None of the top echelon QB's would survive they way our O-line played for the better part of the season. Conversely, a stout line could and would give our QB a chance to make more plays.

I echo my own drafting philosophy:

"Trade down, stockpile picks and no one under 6'3" and 300+lbs."

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 9, 2011 9:08 AM | Report abuse

with the exception of garafalo

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Alright, since no one knows how to play

F Spelling (less disgusting)
M Parker (more money)
K Garafalo (manish ugly)

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

scottmando1

I ain't even gonna lie...I'd do em all

Bro I'd bang a rich tranny if he/she was willing to let me have access to the bank account.

Does that make me a cynic?:

I'd say, yes.

Does that make me gay?:

No, not gay.

Just an opportunist.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

F, Marry, Kill (Ugly actress addition)

Sarah J. Parker, Jeanne Garafalo, Tori Spelling

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2011 9:02 AM


I ain't even gonna lie...I'd do em all in a minute.

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 9:05 AM


Dude, I wouldn't touch Spelling with YOUR dick...she looks like the kid from Mask with makeup on...

Garafalo is the only one on that list that even has half a chance at getting me hard enough to smash. The rest would get smashed...with a baseball bat...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Careful though, ih8 might have his menstruation over reading "a top ..." list.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 9, 2011 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Please Red, fill in the blanks of your statement.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Alright, since no one knows how to play

F Spelling (less disgusting)
M Parker (more money)
K Garafalo (manish ugly)

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2011 9:10 AM

i like your style bro...and Moe..i'm with ya on that one too

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

How is it so difficult to find a decent starting quarterback with 300+ million people in this country!

Coin Toss: What is your favorite day of the week?

Mine is Saturday. Wednesday is my 5th favorite day of the week.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 9:15 AM | Report abuse

scottmando1

I ain't even gonna lie...I'd do em all

Bro I'd bang a rich tranny if he/she was willing to let me have access to the bank account.

Does that make me a cynic?:

I'd say, yes.

Does that make me gay?:

No, not gay.

Just an opportunist.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 9:11 AM
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It sounds like you live a Rocky Horror Picture Show kind of life, Moe.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 9:17 AM | Report abuse

danny is a bullying loser who no man would want his son to grow up and emulate.

Posted by: oldnova

Yup. Owning the second most valued franchise in all of North American Sports. You're right. He's a complete failure. I'm sure he'd switch places with you and your lucrative gerbil website.


Posted by: lavararrington | February 9, 2011 9:20 AM | Report abuse

danny is a bullying loser who no man would want his son to grow up and emulate.

Posted by: oldnova

Yup. Owning the second most valued franchise in all of North American Sports at 34. You're right. He's a complete failure. I'm sure he'd switch places with you and your lucrative gerbil website.


Posted by: lavararrington | February 9, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

And Yes if anyone was wondering...Mike Jones is the new Reid, Cindy, JLac..

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

And Yes if anyone was wondering...Mike Jones is the new Reid, Cindy, JLac..

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2011 9:21 AM

Does he like the Redskins? Is he from this area? What's his favorite chinese food?

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Just read an article that says McNabb is not on larry fitzgeralds wish list of QBs for arizona.

Posted by: hcic55 | February 9, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Yup. Owning the second most valued franchise in all of North American Sports at 34. You're right. He's a complete failure. I'm sure he'd switch places with you and your lucrative gerbil website.


Posted by: lavararrington | February 9, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Good to hear from you Lavar.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Does he like the Redskins? Is he from this area? What's his favorite chinese food?

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 9:29 AM

Warrenton, VA native, Washington Redskins beat writer for The Washington Post. He prefers Chinese women to the food but is the exact opposite with Thai.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Too funny that one player on a 5-11 team can dictate...or at least have a major say in who the team will bring in as QB.

Haha and thanks Dies.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Yup. Owning the second most valued franchise in all of North American Sports at 34. You're right. He's a complete failure. I'm sure he'd switch places with you and your lucrative gerbil website.


Posted by: lavararrington | February 9, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Plus, he screwed you out of 6 million.

That's a lot of weed and Dove Bars...knowimsayin?

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 9, 2011 9:40 AM | Report abuse

One minute the cards are in the SB and then Warner retires and they're bottom feeders. One good example for the franchise QB argument.

Posted by: hcic55 | February 9, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Yup. Owning the second most valued franchise in all of North American Sports at 34. You're right. He's a complete failure. I'm sure he'd switch places with you and your lucrative gerbil website.


Posted by: lavararrington | February 9, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Plus, he screwed you out of 6 million.

That's a lot of weed and Dove Bars...knowimsayin?

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 9, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Just read an article that says McNabb is not on larry fitzgeralds wish list of QBs for arizona.

Posted by: hcic55 | February 9, 2011 9:31 AM

I heard that too...if that's the case, then it looks like we'll be stuck with McNabb for another year...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 9:44 AM | Report abuse

How is it so difficult to find a decent starting quarterback with 300+ million people in this country!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Cuz even a decent QB looks like crap when he has pressure in his face. Not to mention playing a QB in a scheme that changes every 2 years or not playing a QB in a scheme that matches his skill set. O and not having anyone to throw the ball too kind of hurts.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 9, 2011 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I hear ya RSH...but your draft should be dictated by the best way to improve your team right away, not necessarily the most glaring need you've had over the last 4 years. If Pouncey falls to the 2nd round, that's one thing...but chances are we can get a starting NT and a starting OLB with our first two picks and we'd be crazy not to take advantage of what looks like a deep draft at those positions.

We got (hopefully) a franchise LT in last year's draft and we should be able to get at least one starter in FA. Considering the line's improvement down the stretch and the glaring holes on defense, this should be a no-brainer...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:33 AM
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Personally, I would like to see the o-line fixed with depth before directing too many picks to the defense. The exception to this is nose tackle, which I think they have to take at number 10. I am hopeful that they can stock up some picks by trading away some of the guys that aren't in their future plans, but one never knows how that will work out. I think we are going to have get used to a steady stream of UFA linebackers every season. Not saying we won't draft a linebacker occasionally, but I think a 3-4 linebacker can easily be overlooked by the scouts - especially if the guy was a smallish defensive end at a small school. We won't find the next Clay Matthews there, but we could find the next James Harrison.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Salary Cap Expert, J.I. Halsell, Sheds Light on Santana Moss Situation

It looks like the Redskins will have to find a new Cowboy killer.

The Santana Moss debate has really picked up the last week and for good reason with his contract expiring in 48 hours. I decided to email former Redskins salary cap analyst, J.I. Halsell, for some better insight. Halsell is everywhere contributing to ESPN, Football Outsiders, and Redskins Insider. (Follow him on Twitter @SalaryCap101):

Kevin: Santana's contact expires this Friday. Given what's going on with the CBA, would there be legit interest for him in these next 3 weeks from other teams? Are teams looking to sign guys now?

Halsell: While teams cannot sign unrestricted free agents until the beginning of the 2011 league year on 3/4/11, given the labor uncertainty, do not expect teams to pursue unrestricted free agents until a new labor deal is agreed upon.

Kevin: Tana had a career year for receptions. What value do you think he has for this team in regards to a deal? He'll be 32 this summer and is probably looking for one last good deal.

Moss' market value as a productive WR in his early 30s is similar to that of Derrick Mason, Donald Driver, and Hines Ward, who all signed their current contracts at a similar stage of their careers as Moss is currently. The Mason, Driver, and Ward contracts would seem to indicate that the appropriate average per year for Moss is $4.5M/yr - $6M/yr. A three year deal roughly worth $15M with $5M guaranteed would not be unreasonable.

As several commenters here have pointed out, that $5 million could be used towards a bigger named WR; however, the Redskins have a ton of cap space. Why not get a top WR and keep Moss for the $5 million? I think the former Hurricane has two solid years left and what Tana did for this offense in the middle of the field cannot be underestimated. It looks like there won't be a resolution any time soon, so everyone can resume the QB and Snyder discussions. *sigh*.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2011 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Just read an article that says McNabb is not on larry fitzgeralds wish list of QBs for arizona.

Posted by: hcic55 | February 9, 2011 9:31 AM

I heard that too...if that's the case, then it looks like we'll be stuck with McNabb for another year...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 9:44 AM |

No, I doubt McB1tch will be here all season. I envision a Jason Taylor type of situation:

Someone will lose a starting QB and then be forced to over pay (4th, maybe a 3rd).

He's under contract and aint going anywhere thanks to his total loser agent. The 'Skins will sit on him until the right offer comes. If someone offered me a 4th, I'd take it and run.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 9, 2011 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I envision a Jason Taylor type of situation:

Someone will lose a starting QB and then be forced to over pay (4th, maybe a 3rd).

Hoping thats the case with fat al, minn losing the williams DTs fit the mold

Posted by: hcic55 | February 9, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse

It sounds like you live a Rocky Horror Picture Show kind of life

There are no off limits in my world.

Dan Snyder draws Devil horns and a goatee on my photo, I'm so ammoral.

I've stolen money from the church poor box.

I send Smiley Faced letters to dudes on Death Row telling them the end is near.

I've sold drugs to children and guys in raincoats on playgrounds.

Like the guy in Dinner for Schumks, I collect dead vermin for fun.

The Grinch is my FATHEAD.

Chemical companies have affixed my image to bottles of poison to ward off curious suicides.

Last year, I burned the family Christmas tree while telling my kids there was no Santa and that no matter what they hear, Jesus wasn't ever born.

I'm so bad that anti-Semetic Nazis believe the Holocaust happened, but doubt that goodness exists in me.

I've stolen flowers off graves and re-sold them to the F.T.D guy.

I still send shout-outs to Lee Harvey Oswald, John Wilkes Booth, James Earl Ray, and Squeaky Fromme.

How long have I been this way?: since 1991.

I've been about as bad as the redskins since they last won a Super Bowl.

Thing is, they are trying to get better.

I'm choosing not to.


Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 10:05 AM | Report abuse

use that 5 million and sign the following players:

Rod Gardner, Taylor Jacobs, Chris Doering, Alvin Garrett, Tydus Wynans, Michael Westbrook, Reche Caldwell, Jacquez Green, Mike Furrey, Darnerian McCants, Laveranues Coles, David Patten, Joey Galloway, and Anthony Mix....

quantity over any redeeming quality...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2011 10:07 AM | Report abuse

funny moe

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Does that make me gay?:

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

It depends, do you watch Glee?

Posted by: monk811 | February 9, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

funny moe

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 9, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

'Tana Moss will be on Redskins Nation today with Larry Micheal.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 9, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Does that make me gay?:

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

It depends, do you watch Glee?

Posted by: monk811 | February 9, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Oh snap! Good one monk.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 10:17 AM | Report abuse

'Tana Moss will be on Redskins Nation today with Larry Micheal.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 9, 2011 10:14 AM

I'm not watching that.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse

red, can you update us with what gets said....thanks.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse

'Tana Moss will be on Redskins Nation today with Larry Micheal.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 9, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Where they ask the hard-hitting questions.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 10:19 AM | Report abuse

scottmando1

funny

scottmando1: funny moe

Joe Pesci, Goodfellas: Funny?

Funny, how?

What I am, a clown?

(Fires weapon at scottmando's foot)

I am not here to amuse....memba dat!!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Attention Cam Newton Haters:

Chris Mortenson is hearing from Scouts that they began to FINALY WATCH Cam Newton game tapes and they actually see more there than originally thought/heard from others.

And watch the flood gates open to the point Cam will be going top 6....1st QB choosen.

But we can still get Blaine Gabbert.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 9, 2011 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I am not here to amuse....memba dat!!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 10:22 AM |

Oh yes you are.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2011 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I would like to see the o-line fixed with depth before directing too many picks to the defense...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 9:48 AM


Again...this draft isn't the one to do that. That was the 2010 draft and we missed that boat. So we can either dive in the water and try to swim after the boat we missed or simply wait for the next one. This year promises to be heavy in defensive help and it doesn't make sense to take lesser O-lineman because it's a need and pass on fortifying the defense (which, by the way, is also a need) with blue chip players. Even if we add Ryan Harris alone, the O-line will be improved...especially if some of the late rounders from last year develop enough to be contributors.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Not sure what Fitz's opinion has to do with who Zona brings in to QB. Unless they made him GM when I wasn't paying attention, there is still a small chance they go for McNabb.

Posted by: NYPDee | February 9, 2011 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Notes from the "This is not Good for us Department":

Scouts that they began to FINALY WATCH Cam Newton game tapes and they actually see more there than originally thought/heard from others.


Damn.

Watch this be like last year when Bradford was the keeper we couldn't get.

If Newton is the real deala, and we miss out on him, that'll be just suck massively.


Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Not sure what Fitz's opinion has to do with who Zona brings in to QB. Unless they made him GM when I wasn't paying attention, there is still a small chance they go for McNabb.


Posted by: NYPDee | February 9, 2011 10:27 AM | Report abuse
The word is that coach Wisenhunt wasnt a fan of McNabbs either, so if the coach and one true franchise player dont like him, why would they get him

Posted by: hcic55 | February 9, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Even if we add Ryan Harris alone, the O-line will be improved...especially if some of the late rounders from last year develop enough to be contributors.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I would like to see us get Ryan Harris.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 10:35 AM | Report abuse

'Tana Moss will be on Redskins Nation today with Larry Micheal.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 9, 2011 10:14 AM

I'm not watching that.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse

You can keep one eye closed and I'll keep the other eye open, I'd like catch at least a little bit of that. I wanna see how bad Larry sucks up to EVERYTHING Redskins. He drives me nuts, he's like Alan was for those 10 days.

Posted by: monk811 | February 9, 2011 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Attention Cam Newton Haters:

Chris Mortenson is hearing from Scouts that they began to FINALY WATCH Cam Newton game tapes and they actually see more there than originally thought/heard from others.

And watch the flood gates open to the point Cam will be going top 6....1st QB choosen.

But we can still get Blaine Gabbert.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 9, 2011 10:22 AM

Good...let someone else make that multi-million dollar mistake.

And unless Gabbert is a NT, pass on him too.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm thinking we target a few FAs that have experience with our coaches like a ryan harris, maybe a jacoby jones from houston or a chris chamberlain from rams, but only if price is right

Posted by: hcic55 | February 9, 2011 10:38 AM | Report abuse

The word is that coach Wisenhunt wasnt a fan of McNabbs either, so if the coach and one true franchise player dont like him, why would they get him

Posted by: hcic55 | February 9, 2011 10:34 AM

Racists.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Hope we draft an offensive lineman, but I think we'll draft a quarterback.

There will be a tackle that shoots up the charts during the combine.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm thinking we target a few FAs that have experience with our coaches like a ryan harris, maybe a jacoby jones from houston or a chris chamberlain from rams, but only if price is right

Posted by: hcic55 | February 9, 2011 10:38 AM | Report abuse

So at what point should we stop the yodeling mountain climber?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

So at what point should we stop the yodeling mountain climber?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

lol good question

Posted by: hcic55 | February 9, 2011 10:44 AM | Report abuse

...you'd think Alan of all people would be able to process the "if you take away X, he'd be Y" concept...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 8:50 AM

I look for consistency. I won't say Timmy Smith was a great running back just because he lit it up once in a Super Bowl.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I wanna see how bad Larry sucks up to EVERYTHING Redskins. He drives me nuts, he's like Alan was for those 10 days.

Posted by: monk811 | February 9, 2011 10:37 AM

I can't stand that show...if it was on back in the day when I was a kid I would have loved it!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Larry Micheal is so lame.

How does he look at himself in the mirror and have an ounce of integrity left?

I guess fat paychecks can do that.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Moe's Net-flix update:

Dinner for Schmucks--funny and odd

The American--cool movie, very good

Inception--basically sucks

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Who had the worse week?

A. Jerry Jones

B. Daniel Snyder

They both had the weeks they deserved.

Posted by: wireman65 | February 9, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I would like to see the o-line fixed with depth before directing too many picks to the defense...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 9:48 AM

Again...this draft isn't the one to do that. That was the 2010 draft and we missed that boat. So we can either dive in the water and try to swim after the boat we missed or simply wait for the next one. This year promises to be heavy in defensive help and it doesn't make sense to take lesser O-lineman because it's a need and pass on fortifying the defense (which, by the way, is also a need) with blue chip players. Even if we add Ryan Harris alone, the O-line will be improved...especially if some of the late rounders from last year develop enough to be contributors.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 9, 2011 10:26 AM
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Maybe so. I don't think they can go wrong no matter how they slice it because of the needs they have. Veteran free agent signings and undrafted free agent signings may have more of a bearing on where the team goes next season than anything that happens in the draft.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Older movie...but caught Surrogates with Bruce Willis last night...dumb, dumb, dumb...shoulda known better.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 9, 2011 10:59 AM | Report abuse

moe, agreed on the American, good, not great flick....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2011 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Larry Micheal is so lame.

How does he look at himself in the mirror and have an ounce of integrity left?

I guess fat paychecks can do that.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Larry Micheal = Frank Herzog Lite

OR

Larry Micheal = The Retarded Frank Herzog

Posted by: monk811 | February 9, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

And watch the flood gates open to the point Cam will be going top 6....1st QB choosen.

But we can still get Blaine Gabbert.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 9, 2011 10:22 AM

I cannot see Newton going in the top ten, unless there is a coach/gm who like to draft based on potential over nfl preparedness, and an owner liking the big splash....

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I cannot see Newton going in the top ten, unless there is a coach/gm who like to draft based on potential over nfl preparedness, and an owner liking the big splash....

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I could easily see a small market team like Buffalo taking him to boost ticket sales. They probably also want someone mobile to pair with Spiller and their crappy oline. I could also see a team that thinks they just need a QB to be competitive like San Fran, Tennessee, or Arizona taking him. We still have a long way to go before the draft and Cam will work out for a lot of those teams and if 1 of them likes what they see he will go early. If he has a workout like Bradford did last year then he will go in the top 10.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 9, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

What does anyone know about Jeff Stehle? He's from around the Syracuse area and I saw he signed a futures contract with Washington. All I can find is he spent a year on Denver's developmental roster and his 6' 5" and 308 pounds. I also found something that said he could hang another thirty pounds on his frame, which could make him a nose tackle candidate.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

A rolling stone gathers no...

...beeps!

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

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