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Redskins line is shuffled before the game

For the first time this season, the Redskins didn't shuffle their offensive line in the middle of the game. That's because they did all of their shuffling before the game.

Kory Lichtensteiger had his first career start against the Rams, replacing veteran left guard Derrick Dockery, who had started 111 straight games. Though the two had rotated during the team's first two games and Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said the competition between the pair was a close one, Lichtensteiger played the entire game. Dockery's only snaps appeared to come on special teams.

While the line faced heavy blitzing, the change in personnel apparently wasn't part of the team's woes in Sunday's loss.

"The Dock-Kory thing hasn't been a problem," said center Casey Rabach. "I've had a ton of reps with both of them. Everybody needs to get more familiar with this offense and understanding it."

Stephon Heyer had his first start of the year, replacing Iinjured rookie Trent Williams at left tackle. And Jammal Brown, a two-time Pro Bowler at left tackle, continued at right tackle, playing four quarters for the first time since December 2008.

"It was fine," said Heyer. "Kind of knocked the cobwebs off -- chance to go out there and play. It's a good opponent to go against."

While coaches might have decided on their starting line early in the week, players say they weren't told until Saturday. McNabb was sacked only once. But while the running game tallied a season-high 115 yards in the first half, the Redskins had only one yard rushing in the second.

"We had to get away from it in the third and fourth quarters," Rabach said, "but it's coming along."

By Rick Maese  | September 26, 2010; 9:44 PM ET
Categories:  Offensive line  
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Comments

Um, our line sucks no matter who is in there.

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 26, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

should have shuffled the O line in the OFF SEASON!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 26, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Naturally Shanahan feels the OL problem is someone who was here previous to his arrival, Dockery.

Why not Hicks? Why not Jamal Brown?
One yard rushing in the 2nd half?

DT11 showed he could play in the last 6 games last season, and Shanny continues to use "his guys". How's Joey Galloway, and Roydell Williams working out for you, Coach?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 26, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I WANT ANSWERS ON THIS HAYNESWORTH b.s. How in the hell is he not in there on 4th and inches... Shannahan needs to grow up and put the guy in, trade him or cut him. This is getting old fast.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 26, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

"Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said the competition between the pair was a close one, Lichtensteiger played the entire game."

not close enough to play Dockery in the 4th pre-season game, choppers!

If their were still postion battles why did so many sit?

tom brady played, peyton manning played, the cards played everyone but larry fitz

we upgraded QB and LT, that's it everything else got worse or stayed put

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 26, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Someone mentioned rebuilding and being patient until 2013.

I won't argue that either way, but I do know that what I watched today had nothing to do with rebuilding.

I saw a defense that was unprepared and under-coached, and that falls squarely on Haslett.

How can you, as a D-coordinator, not prepare and gameplan for A) Stephen Jackson, the Rams only serious offensive threat (who fortunately left the game early) ... and B) a rookie QB who should have been running for his life all day, instead of comfortably completing passes to wide open receivers on third down.

People can talk about the 3-4 or the 4-3 of having the right personnel endlessly, but what was on that field this afternoon was a defense that seemed clueless, emotionless (except for LL) and began displaying negative body language as early as the 1st quarter.

Haslett needs to answer for that, and check himself just as he would any of his players.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 26, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Ray1,

I couldn't agree with you more... he's not using DT11 or Haynesworth... it's a bunch of crap... there was barely any difference between today and Zorn.. What's with Portis on the sidelines for a guy that was just moved from Taxi squad????

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 26, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Only the Skins could make Mike Shanahan look like an awful coach. We are cursed. Marty, Spurrier, Gibbs, now Shanny ... all very successful prior to Danny & Co.

Posted by: jj250 | September 26, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Joey Galloway has no catches in 2 of 3 games this season.

How can you expect to keep any NFL defense offense when your #2 WR can only get open against a rookie corner for the Texans?

C'mon Kyle. Take DT out of the doghouse and let him get on the field. He can't be any less effective than Joey. Really, he can't.

Posted by: elfreako | September 26, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Wheels off. Larry Johnson was the first cut of the category of "if we're losing anyway, why are we playing vets beyond their prime?" Week three takeaways:

1) Andre Carter cannot play LB

2) Portis doesn't have the speed or cutting ability or balance to thrive in this offense any more

3) We simply do not have a serviceable NT on the roster

3)a) London Fletcher hasn't seemed to have found his way in this defense and that is made a lot tougher by bad NT play in front of him

4) Our Oline is is a long way off -- our C, LG, and backup LT situation is weak and our RG, RT situation is only average

5) How bad must Devin Thomas be to not be playing over Galloway and Roydell Williams?

6) Who's going to tell Deangelo Hall to STFU and try to cover the lame wr's on his side rather than focusing on the lame receivers making catches on Carlos Rogers?

7) The Skins front office may need to refocus on signing McNabb to an extension soon or see him sign in the offseason with Minnesota having given two high draft picks up for him.

8) How could you go the whole offseason and not have a guy on the roster who can return punts?

Posted by: thinker11 | September 26, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey Rabach, has anyone told you to your face that you suck? Maybe the problem isn't with shuffling Kory and Dock. Maybe the problem is that you can't physically handle playing center in the NFL.

This Oline is a frickin joke. It's only "upgrade" from last season was grabbing Trent Williams with the #4 pick. Take that upgrade away and the level of play is equal to last season.

Yeah, they gave up only 1 sack. Thank Donovan McNabb for that b/c he knows how to get the ball out and how to move in a pocket.

And how many holding calls did Heyer/Kory have between them tonight? 3? 4?

Posted by: p1funk | September 26, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Hello Fellow Redskin Fans,
I said it earlier on another WP entry.

I'm going to say it all week, and I hope somehow the message gets to the Skins themselves.

They spent all week thinking "we could be 2-0"
Actually they should have been thinking,
"we could be 0-2"
Now, we should be 0-3

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 26, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Meant to write 'keep any NFL defense honest' My bad.

Posted by: elfreako | September 26, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Just got off the phone with Maynard James Keenan and he said the Redskins are "in desperate need of a real good stinkfisting."

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 26, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Heyer sucks both my left and right testicle.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 26, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

beep beep. They're burning the midnight oil at RI.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 26, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Just got off the phone with Maynard James Keenan and he said the Redskins are "in desperate need of a real good stinkfisting."

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 26, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse


Just got off the phone with John Maynard Keynes and he said that Redskins "just got b!tch$lapped by the invisible hand".

Posted by: p1funk | September 26, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Haslett, you need to rethink your scheme, personnel and motivation tactics. You got punked by a rookie. Kyle Shanahan, you need to pound the run when you go are even or in the lead. Stop leaning on Donovan especially when his left tackle is out and Galloway disappears.

Mike Shanahan, you need to put these two in check, quick. 1-3 is coming fast.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | September 26, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

beeps again freaks

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 26, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

WTF!
This team couldn't stop the Rams? Shoot, they couldn't cover the Texans; hell, they couldn't cover the Cowpies!
The Def. line needs to be reshuffled. Isn't Phillip Daniels a run stopper? Why is Golston starting on that side and why is our NT getting blown off the ball every play? Why is Young Frankstein still one of our starting LBs? The DBs I have to give a pass to, they made mistakes but bad schemes and coaching had a lot to do with their play.
Somebody by Kyle a F'n clue. When you're running the ball well, you continue to run the ball.
Why was CP on the bench in the 2nd half? yeah the guy has balance problems (they can work on that) but he was running ok.
Shanny needs to get his head out of his butt, this team needs a leader not a petty boss. We also need a defense that can stop a rookie QB, stifle 3rd down conv., create pressure on the QB, stop the run, doesn't over persue every bootleg, practices tackling, etc, etc.....

Posted by: priceisright | September 26, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

This 3-4 defense is a big mistake. This team doesn't have the linebacker's or the nose tackle for this scheme. Gonna be a long year.

And why is it year after year, some how or other, S Heyer winds up playing tackle ??? Are tackles that hard to find in this league???

Posted by: wizard5 | September 26, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

WTF!

I didn't like them (mike and Kyle) when they was in Denver,Texas.EEEEGGGGGGOOOOsss!!!!

Posted by: theturfman | September 27, 2010 7:08 AM | Report abuse

First of all...it's best to run a 4-3 with the current personnell, you can PHASE IN THE 3-4 as you go, but you can't make that the base defense right now....we don't have the LBs for that...it's obvious..

play Devin Thomas or release him....

Play Haynesworth in the 4-3...that's the defense where he gave mad havoc...

The oline still have to be a priority, because in three years this current bunch of olinemen will be old....so eithr thru free agency or the mid rounds in drafts ol still have to be a paramount....

Dline..must find some HUGE lineman to play in this 3-4 and atleast two huge mlbs...Fletcher has been great, but his days are numbered....We should immediately find sme more mlbs as soon as the season is over...BRING BACK HENSON....

Db...have to add better depth at FS...and some quality YOUNG DEPTH at CB...

Posted by: impervious99 | September 27, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

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