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Shanahan on Heyer: Untapped ability but hard work is needed

Anyone who reads this space regularly knows I don't pretend to know as much as coaches. I talk to coaches in forming my opinions - but those guys are the experts.

Which brings me to right tackle Stephon Heyer, who often was beaten badly in pass protection last season, struggled in the running game against powerful defensive ends and generally was considered among the weakest links on one of the league's least-effective lines.

The former coaching staff was frustrated with Heyer's performance, and longtime line coach Joe Bugel regularly criticized Heyer for poor showings in practice, team sources said. But it seems that Coach Mike Shanahan sees something positive in Heyer.

Shanahan had effective lines in Denver that included players with less talent than Heyer, according to a source familiar with Shanahan's tenure with the Broncos. With the retirement of Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels, the Redskins have a major hole at the position. The team has unsuccessfully pursued several free-agent tackles, and Artis Hicks, the recently signed guard-tackle, is considered better at guard or coming off the bench at both positions.

Washington re-signed Mike Williams, who impressed after switching from tackle to guard and is expected to battle Hicks to start on the right side. Even if the Redskins select someone such as Oklahoma State's Russell Okung with the fourth overall pick in the draft, it seems Heyer could be in the mix to start again this season.

"I though Heyer did some good things last year, and he was hurt," Shanahan said recently. "I'm looking forward to seeing how much he grows this offseason. I think Stephon has a lot of ability.

"I think it's untapped ability, and if he's willing to work hard, I think he's got a chance to be a player in the National Football League. The question is, 'How hard will he work in this offseason to get to the next level?' And I'm hoping he does."

By Jason Reid  |  March 28, 2010; 12:14 PM ET
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In other words Heyer is the best option they have at the moment

Posted by: richr75 | March 28, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Heyer is knock-kneed, bends his waist. By "work" Shanahan possibly means transform his body type.

I get the feeling though that we are either getting a tackle at #4 or one at #37, but not both.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | March 28, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Well folks, I've beaten you black and blue with the Charlie Casserly video, but evidently you need more evidence. Charlie Casserly video part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZypDzW81-c&feature=related

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | March 28, 2010 11:45 AM
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Hey.. "skinshaveaGM" my trademark lawyer wants to speak with you.

Great video, though.. Although, you shall reap the wrath of oddly "in love with JC" bloggers who dont admit to his lack of ability at QB.... Actually, its the Stockholm Syndrome.. The JC lovers have been held hostage by JC for 5 years and have now become attracted to him in a weird way.

Oh, and back to your SkinshaveaGM handle.. Bruce Allen is not really the GM. He is a "Cap-ologist" who Snyder is calling the GM. Similar to his former personnel shill, Vinny the "Exec VP of Personnel".
Snyder remains the stealth GM until proven otherwise.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

We HAVE to draft a top tackle..Campbell is not great, but we won a Super Bowl with a great line and Rypien..Brooklynskins is right, if Shanahan's QB is available at #4, we take him and then go tackle, or we get Tebow or Pike or Armanti after we get the top tackle..Otherwise, there's some serious Klingon sushi in the state of Denmark..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I'll never forget how much time Rypien had that Super Bowl year, it was comical..The only game they lost that year, to the Cowboys at home over Veteran's Day weekend, I almost started cheering for the Cowboys just outta boredom..(that and I was tripping on some world class Orange Sunshine)...But Campbell coulda won the Super Bowl with that team , no question..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

The should Skins select OL with both picks. A top LT with #4 and RT or C with #37. They should be able to find 1st round OL talent with the 2nd round pick...

Posted by: siris | March 28, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan on Heyer: Untapped ability but hard work is needed -- translation -- you're a backup T unless you improve significantly and you need to work on special teams blocking...

Posted by: siris | March 28, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

In other words Heyer is the best option they have at the moment

Posted by: richr75 | March 28, 2010 12:22 PM

Say what?


In other words, Heyer better step it up a lot or he's going to be watching a lot.

Posted by: edvar | March 28, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

But Campbell coulda won the Super Bowl with that team , no question..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 1:05 PM

ummm you must of missed Skinshaveagm's video showing JC with LOTS of time in the pocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZypDzW81-c&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

From Vic1's blogging activity I have updated his mock draft

1-Jimmy Clausen QB
2-Tim Tebow QB
4-Dan LeFevour QB
5-Mike Kafka QB
7-Bill Stull QB

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 28, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I'll never forget how much time Rypien had that Super Bowl year, it was comical..The only game they lost that year, to the Cowboys at home over Veteran's Day weekend, I almost started cheering for the Cowboys just outta boredom..(that and I was tripping on some world class Orange Sunshine)...But Campbell coulda won the Super Bowl with that team , no question..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

What??? How in the world do you know this?? First off...JC is no Rypien...Rypien was a pure pocket passer and he could throw a VERY accurate deep ball....JC is not very accurate at throwing any ball THUS far.

To me that is an insult to Rypien...he won a Superbowl and went 14 and 2 with a great team...saying JC could have done the same is an impossible statement to not only prove but justify.

Posted by: leevi98 | March 28, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

He was flashin' back.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

So, if you're the Vikings, do you try and deal for McNabb and then tell Favre to stay home?

Didn't Childress come from Philly?


Might be why it won't happen, LOL

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

So, if you're the Vikings, do you try and deal for McNabb and then tell Favre to stay home?

Didn't Childress come from Philly?


Might be why it won't happen, LOL

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse
It actually wouldn't be a bad idea for the Vikes to trade for McNabb. He's 7-8 years younger than Favre. With their receivers, McNabb could be a good addition.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 28, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Heheheh, uhmm, yeah, Campbell's not the answer, he's a backup...He was playing all world the first few games of 2008, though, when the O-line was intact and the rest of the league hadn't made Zorn's playbook yet..Just sayin'..Shanahan is drafting a QB, yep..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"Which brings me to right tackle Stephon Heyer, who often was beaten badly in pass protection last season, struggled in the running game against powerful defensive ends and generally was considered among the weakest links on one of the league's least-effective lines."

Other than that, he was pretty damn good though.

Posted by: Section104 | March 28, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

"I though Heyer did some good things last year, and he was hurt," Shanahan said recently. "I'm looking forward to seeing how much he grows this offseason. I think Stephon has a lot of ability.

"I think it's untapped ability, and if he's willing to work hard, I think he's got a chance to be a player in the National Football League. The question is, 'How hard will he work in this offseason to get to the next level?' And I'm hoping he does."

SHANAHAN ABOUT HEYER

Hmmm. Praise heaped upon Big Mike WIlliams, and now this stuff about the untapped potential of Heyer.

Sounds to me like Mr. Shanahan is prepping fans for a QB taken with the 4th overall, because like y'know, the line's not that bad.

Posted by: TheCork | March 28, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Sounds to me that Shanahan is giving stock quotes in response to Da Mathematician's inquiries.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah fredie, i think the Vikings have an obvious move to make. Get McNabb and tell Favre not to bother.

McNabb extends their window, and he will show up from day one, and the team will not be held hostage for another 4 months.

He can throw across his body late to the middle of the field with the game on the line just as well as Favre can, too.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Rypien was a much better deep passer than Campbell, but that was mainly because his ball was very catchable. He sort of heaved it so that the nose was up when it settled into the receiver's hands. Plus they rolled him out fairly often.

He wasn't as accurate as Campbell on the short stuff, however.

On Stephon Heyer, he's a mixed bag. Much stronger than he was as an undrafted rookie, but also struggling more with injuries. Bugel criticized him, and yet Buges was also his biggest supporter at cut time.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 28, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Sounds to me that Shanahan is giving stock quotes in response to Da Mathematician's inquiries.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 2:14 PM |

indeed. cosign.

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Sounds to me that Shanahan is giving stock quotes in response to Da Mathematician's inquiries.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 2:14 PM |

indeed. cosign.

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

With draft in 4 weeks, you don't want to be obvious on who you want to take. So this is smart management. Keep everyone guessing.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 28, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

To me that is an insult to Rypien...he won a Superbowl and went 14 and 2 with a great team...saying JC could have done the same is an impossible statement to not only prove but justify.

Posted by: leevi98

Have you ever seen America's Game - the NFL Network's show about Super Bowl winning teams? The show features 3 people from the Super Bowl winning tean summarizing the season, etc. Well, the year we won with Rypien, Charles Mann was one of the players featured and his comments about Rypien were not complimentary. At the beginning of the season, Charles had little hope for Rypien - although his opinion changed by the end of the season.

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 28, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

He was flashin' back.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe
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One of the Dude's 3 primary forms of recreation...

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 28, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 28, 2010 1:26 PM

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Lolz. H8ers gotta h8, and that's what vic1 does.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 28, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan is drafting a QB, yep..

Posted by: frak
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Now just switch that "yep" to an "uh huh", and say it in your best billy bob / slingblade voice.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 28, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

With draft in 4 weeks, you don't want to be obvious on who you want to take. So this is smart management. Keep everyone guessing.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 28, 2010 2:29 PM |

i'm looking forward to seeing how competent people handle it.

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

One of the Dude's 3 primary forms of recreation...

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 28, 2010 2:36 PM |

well, thats just like, your opinion...man

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

f'in Quintana

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 28, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

sorry, Heyer has never shown me that he's really starting material. He's been horrible for JC's career. I can't tell you how many times I've seen #74 standing over Campbell as his man is getting off him.

Heyer's had too many years of opporunity to not be better than he is now. If he hasn't gotten it yet, he's not starting material. At least we didn't waste a draft pick on him.

HTTR

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | March 28, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

It's a done deal...

Clausen get's picked @ #4

JC17 is NOT a closer and has NEVER lead us to a single come from behind victory in the 4th quarter

Clausen is a closer and will fit great with our new system

Posted by: byrdinthesky | March 28, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Clausen is a closer and will fit great with our new system

Posted by: byrdinthesky
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Our new, Oline-free, system?

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

How but some real Insider News, Mr. Reid, like are any of our scouts, coaches, or GM attending Oklahoma's or Texas' Pro days this week? That's right, I forgot', you don't have anybody on the "Inside" that will tell you anything.

Posted by: wagman1 | March 28, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

ummm you must of missed Skinshaveagm's video showing JC with LOTS of time in the pocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZypDzW81-c&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Amazing. After the hundredth time you posted the Casserly video, I finally see the light. How could I have been so blind? You inspire me. Here, I found more video to support your point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QbtNYC0-FM

Posted by: RomoLongballs | March 28, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Oogalaboogala-
rrmmmm, well,I you know,rmm just had to do it, rrmmm..Never mix acid and pcp, I guess, mmrrrmm...

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

"I though Heyer did some good things last year, and he was hurt," Shanahan said recently.

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File this under, '4th is not crazy'....I said the exact same thing last week....

I don't know why you guys want to waste the whole draft on the OLine?? They are closer to getting fixed than you think.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 28, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"I though Heyer did some good things last year, and he was hurt," Shanahan said recently.

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File this under, '4th is not crazy'....I said the exact same thing last week....

I don't know why you guys want to waste the whole draft on the OLine?? They are closer to getting fixed than you think.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 28, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Clausen is a closer and will fit great with our new system

Posted by: byrdinthesky | March 28, 2010 3:06 PM
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That's why he had so much success at N.D., right?
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 28, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

NOT a fan of Claussen at 4.

BUT, Claussen had great success at ND.

ND did not have great success while Claussen was there. They played no defense.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Jimmy Clausen "closing" the last 4 games of 09

Against Navy, trailing by 7, 1:48 left

Notre Dame at 1:48 NAVY ND
1st and 10 at ND 13 Jimmy Clausen pass incomplete to Michael Floyd. 21 14

2nd and 10 at ND 13 Jimmy Clausen pass incomplete to Michael Floyd.

3rd and 10 at ND 13 Jimmy Clausen sacked by Jabaree Tuani for a loss of 10 yards to the NDame 3.

4th and 20 at ND 3 Jimmy Clausen sacked by Craig Schaefer for a loss of 3 yards to the NDame 0 for a SAFETY. 23 14

Nick Tausch on-side kick recovered by NOTRE DAME at the NDame 34.

DRIVE TOTALS: NOTREDAME drive: 4 plays -13 yards, 00:48 NAVY SAF

Posted by: TWISI | March 28, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

NOT a fan of Claussen at 4.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe
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That's it right there for me. Bradford, fine, if he checks out physically and Shanny wants him... as long as round 2 goes to Oline. But we gotta use that #4 on someone we and most every other thinks is "elite", whether that's Okung, Suh, Brad, McCoy (not Berry)... and that's if we can't trade down.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 28, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Versus Pitt, down by 5, 3:39 to play

Notre Dame at 3:39 ND PITT
1st and 10 at ND 20 Jimmy Clausen pass complete to Armando Allen Jr for 5 yards to the NDame 25. 22 27

2nd and 5 at ND 25 Jimmy Clausen pass complete to Armando Allen Jr for 8 yards to the NDame 33 for a 1ST down.

1st and 10 at ND 33 Jimmy Clausen pass complete to Golden Tate for 9 yards to the NDame 42 out-of-bounds.

2nd and 1 at ND 42 NOTRE DAME penalty 15 yard Personal Foul accepted.

2nd and 16 at ND 27 Jimmy Clausen pass incomplete.

3rd and 16 at ND 27 Jimmy Clausen rush for 1 yard, fumbled, recovered by Pitt Myles Caragein at the NDame 28.

4th and 16 at ND 27 Timeout NOTRE DAME, clock 2:10.

DRIVE TOTALS: NOTREDAME drive: 9 plays 19 yards, 03:39

Posted by: TWISI | March 28, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Nice TWISI

Now go get all the stats from the numerous games that he made come from behind TD and FG drives to give his team the lead which the ND def promptly gave right back on the last possession.

Like i said, I'm NOT in favor of drafting him 4th, but he is not the azz hat that many try to portray him.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why you guys want to waste the whole draft on the OLine?? They are closer to getting fixed than you think.....

Posted by: 4thFloor
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Totally agree. I think I'd like to see at least 2 picks go to Oline, incl at least one of our top 2.

This is at least a 2-year rebuild anyway, plus there's other needs.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 28, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me...

Watch the tape.

This guy didn't have half the talent Bradford Sanchez or Stafford had.

This guy can play the game.

Read this:
http://www.walterfootball.com/jimmyclausenhate.php

YES, we need an o-line. But we don't have a QB that can win in this league. Games are won in the 4th quarter, not 1-3

Posted by: byrdinthesky | March 28, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

But we gotta use that #4 on someone we and most every other thinks is "elite", whether that's Okung, Suh, Brad, McCoy (not Berry)... and that's if we can't trade down.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 28, 2010 3:51 PM |
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Are you saying Berry isn't elite? Everything I've read says that he is.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 28, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Against Standford, down by 7, 59 secs left

Notre Dame at 0:59 ND STAN
1st and 10 at ND 20 Jimmy Clausen sacked by Tom Keiser for a loss of 9 yards to the NDame 11. 38 45

2nd and 19 at ND 11 Timeout NOTRE DAME, clock 00:49.

2nd and 19 at ND 11 Jimmy Clausen pass complete to Golden Tate for 43 yards to the Stanf 46 for a 1ST down.

1st and 10 at STAN 46 Jimmy Clausen pass complete to Golden Tate for 16 yards to the Stanf 30 for a 1ST down.

1st and 10 at STAN 30 Jimmy Clausen pass complete to Golden Tate for 6 yards to the Stanf 24.

2nd and 4 at STAN 24 Jimmy Clausen sacked by Chase Thomas for a loss of 7 yards, fumbled, recovered by NDame at the Stanf 31.

3rd and 11 at STAN 31 Team pass incomplete.

4th and 11 at STAN 31 Jimmy Clausen pass incomplete.
End of 4th Quarter
End of 4th Quarter

Posted by: TWISI | March 28, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why you guys want to waste the whole draft on the OLine?? They are closer to getting fixed than you think.....

Posted by: 4thFloor

First impressions linger long, and our championships in recent times came when we had the Hawgs as an NFL dominant unit...Theismann, Williams and Rypien were at the top of their game , too, though...

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

SkinsfaninKaneohe I agree, but to say he's a closer is a stretch IMO. He's a good QB. He has potential but he's not the "bomb" either.

Posted by: TWISI | March 28, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

YES, we need an o-line. But we don't have a QB that can win in this league. Games are won in the 4th quarter, not 1-3

Posted by: byrdinthesky | March 28, 2010 3:53 PM |
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I've read it, and I still don't believe Clausen is anything more than the 2nd best prospect in a bad QB class.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 28, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

TWISI, i think we actually are in agreement. I hope somebody ... like Seattle... or Buffalo... falls in love with him and makes us an offer we can't refuse.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I can't get the play by play for ND v UConn but I think you can get the drift of how Clausen would've performed w/ under 7 mins to go (that one was for you SkinsNeedAGM).

Posted by: TWISI | March 28, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Like i said, I'm NOT in favor of drafting him 4th, but he is not the azz hat that many try to portray him.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 3:52 PM |
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Oh really? I disagree. He is an azzhat and he has portrayed himself to be one:

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg

http://www.lugaluda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jimmy-clausen.jpg

http://ymswwc.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/clausen-2.jpg

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 28, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Takes one to know one?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I like Shanny's emphasis on growth, hard work and improvement. That is indeed a players responsibility and it is the coachs' responsibility to lead and shape them in this growth. Shanahan is not going to except players resting on their imagined laurels.

Posted by: DrWho2 | March 28, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Heyer is just treading water until the real right tackle steps forward. Shanny is saying step up or step out and unlike Shanny, I think Heyer is at the top of where his abilities are. Some guys just can't make it over that hump and Heyer is one. You'd like to see a guy from the local school do well, but the reality is 31 other teams passed over him in the draft because they didn't believe in him, and Washingotn was taking a reach to bring him in. That's all he has ever been: a reach, and now the experiment is coming to an end.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 28, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

That's all he has ever been: a reach, and now the experiment is coming to an end.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 28, 2010 4:09 PM |
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I think that's unfair, Heyer has been a capable backup. But that's all that he's shown he can be, so far.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 28, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

"1 at STAN 31 Team pass incomplete.
End of 4th Quarter End of 4th Quarter
Posted by: TWISI '

OK, I guess we can assume this repetitive posting of end-of-game drive results is done to make it look like Jimmy Claussen is not any good at the end of games.

Problem: what's the relationship between a chunk of late-game minutes from Irish losses in 2009 to our ability to predict how the Irish QB will do if and when he gets a chance to play for an unspecified team in the NFL?

Why, there isn't one, of course. Too many other variables.

So why post these drive stats from Notre Dame? To make it seem as if there is.

Folks like to talk about 'winners' as if winning were a sort of fairy dust that sticks to some players and no others (like Tim Tebow, for instance.) Reality is that a QB's college performance in a completely different offensive scheme doesn't tell us much about future pro stardom. If it did, teams wouldn't waste so many upper-atmosphere draft picks on them.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 28, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Is this Heyer's 3rd or 4th year coming up?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Takes one to know one?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 4:07 PM |

Possibly, I've been called worse by better people. Although I don't ever recall flexing in speedos for a photograph.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 28, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Guess we will just see...

I watched 4 games this year and I'm telling you, this guy is a closer. Not here to micro analyze one or two games, but he has brought his team back and has won a few.

personally, I think some skins fans are basing their opinion on what those so-called, self proclaimed gurus say on ESPN and NFL network claim

If anyone is over rated it's Bradford

But hey! we will see

Posted by: byrdinthesky | March 28, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Heyer is good for depth. He should never be counted on to start except in an emergency. He should be the 7th-9th man on a roster of 12 OL.

Scamp-
This one is my favorite.

http://curveballsforjesus.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/jimmy-clausen-with-muppet.jpg

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 28, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

So I guess everyone has come to the conclusion that the man with 31 NCAA records, is not going to have a shot?

One more thing about Rypien.....his deep ball was(and probably still is) better than Campbell's because 1) it stayed inbounds and 2) someone could actually get to it.

Posted by: westjr88 | March 28, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

nice, I like the one where he's shown next to an ostrich. They could be twins.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 28, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Samson151 someone posted that Clausen was a closer. I wanted to see if that was true. The last 4 games in '09 were probably Clausen's most important in that it could have helped the case for his HC to remain a Golden Domer; it could have provided a 10 game win season for the Irish, which they haven't had in a while. In at least three of those games, Clausen didn't close the deal when he had opportunity to do so. Just saying he's not a slam dunk franchise QB some of you think he is. He's a good QB, with well deserved questioned leadership ability.

Posted by: TWISI | March 28, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

If it did, teams wouldn't waste so many upper-atmosphere draft picks on them.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 28, 2010 4:12 PM |
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Speaking of wasted picks, JaMarcus weighed in at 290 lbs.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 28, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Best thing about Bradford is his smarts.

36 is way above avg for Wonderlic. In the NFL, i think the truly elite QBs are defined by their intelligence assuming they have "good enough" physical skills.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Are you saying Berry isn't elite? Everything I've read says that he is.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya
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No, not saying that, just didn't take the time to write out my thoughts on that... Just saying I don't think we should take a safety that high this year due to bigger needs at OL and QB, and one of those DT's would be OK IMO because a monster Dline could make our D sick plus who knows how long AH will be around, and how many plays he'll take off.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 28, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

36 is way above avg for Wonderlic. In the NFL, i think the truly elite QBs are defined by their intelligence assuming they have "good enough" physical skills.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 4:23 PM

Myron Rolle scored a 68 out of a possible 50 on the wonderlic.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 28, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

nice, I like the one where he's shown next to an ostrich. They could be twins.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 28, 2010 4:22 PM |
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Emu.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 28, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

LOL, its because of his infectiously positive outlook Diesel.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

What was Portis's Wonderlic? 7?

Posted by: westjr88 | March 28, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

1.7 seconds to play.. dumb last shot strategy by Tennessee.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

ummm you must of missed Skinshaveagm's video showing JC with LOTS of time in the pocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZypDzW81-c&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Amazing. After the hundredth time you posted the Casserly video, I finally see the light. How could I have been so blind? You inspire me.
Posted by: RomoLongballs | March 28, 2010 3:22 PM
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hey romo.. that wasnt the Casserly video.

Next time check before you post.
But, I know it is difficult, ...... there are so many low-lights of Jason's 5 year Redskins Career to show and so little time.

Its not that I dont like JC as a person, its that I cannot understand why a QB with the worst QB TD efficiency rating of all the active NFL QBs with more than 900 attempts (and 211th out of 219 in NFL history)..and a 4-21 record in his division, continues to Start for the last 4 years? Other than his Contract size and Snyder's desperate attempt to get a return on his 3 draft picks trade investment.

Oh.. since you brought it up... here is the Casserly "how JC throws short safe passes to pad his stats clinic video" that you wanted.... Does this make Casserly and CBS h8trs??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Watchin the Seahawks on NFL Replay between games, Jesus, has somebody told them that their "Exorcist-puke green" jerseys don't match their helmet and pants?? They look like they're a practice squad or doing work-release on the highway for the state...

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Now we know why Zorn said "maroon and black".

His retinas were burned past usefulness from staring at the shehawk uni's.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"Samson151 someone posted that Clausen was a closer. I wanted to see if that was true."

Well, you haven't done that. You'd have to take the entire season, and you'd have to look at more situations than the very narrow range you selected. What you did looks like cherry-picking.

The last 4 games in '09 were probably Clausen's most important in that it could have helped the case for his HC to remain a Golden Domer; it could have provided a 10 game win season for the Irish, which they haven't had in a while. In at least three of those games, Clausen didn't close the deal when he had opportunity to do so."

Look, the only thing you can 'prove' based on those four games is that Notre Dame lost. You're assuming that's because of Clausen's performance alone. But you're ignoring all the other key variables (cherry-picking), because they don't support your conclusion. For instance, where was Charlie Weis? Wasn't he calling the plays?

Just saying he's not a slam dunk franchise QB some of you think he is."

Not many times you hear that on this blog. In fact, it's usually the opposite. And usually because he's not very likeable, and because he's from Notre Dame.

Besides, you can't judge 'leadership ability' through a TV set. Strip away the platitudes, and what most coaches mean by a 'leader' is somebody who was at the helm during a winning streak.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you haven't proved your point, and quite possibly can't.

When it comes down to it, we don't know how good Claussen, or Bradford, or LeFevour, or Tebow, or Pike will be in the NFL. Too many unknowns.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 28, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

By the way, I don't know why teams insist on giving prospects the Wonderlic. They clearly don't pay much attention to it. Else they'd never have drafted Vince Young at 3, or Michael Vick at 1.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 28, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

As I recall Heyer was not drafted. With the 1st and 2nd round picks, the Skins need offensive linemen. Whats the point of putting a 1st round pick QB behind a line that can't protect him?

Posted by: almelbe | March 28, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

As I recall Heyer was not drafted. With the 1st and 2nd round picks, the Skins need offensive linemen. Whats the point of putting a 1st round pick QB behind a line that can't protect him?

Posted by: almelbe | March 28, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Duke v Baylor coming up this afternoon...
Now we're seeing why Duke got the easy bracket "bye" by the NCAA bracket committee.. A bone thrown to the Network for one reason....."Ratings".
Duke is "ratings gold" (just google that with "Duke") and Duke has been exiting the tournament far too early.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

i'm not a fan of stephon heyer at all. he doesn't play w/ proper leverage for a lineman. basically he stands too tall when blocking. in two consecutive weeks last season, he allowed a safety. the first was when he got blown up by peppers in the panthers game. getting shoved into the backfield forced portis to go deeper into the endzone to avoid running into him and the results were a disaster. the following week against the chiefs, the last play of the game, he got blown up when playing lt and collins got tackled in the end zone. heyer is garbage and should've been cut at the end of the season.

Posted by: charronegro1971 | March 28, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Peppers destroyed Heyer,and nearly single-handedly won the game..With a little help from Randle-El and Hall, of course...

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Samson151 I did cherry pick. I clearly identified that I looked at the last 4 games, and in my response to you I clearly identified why I thought those games held significance to me. You don't like, oh well. If you feel compelled to look at the remaining games of 2009 please do so and report your findings. FWI, no one knows what any of the college draft players will do in the pros. That's why opinion vary. So I guess you have no opinion on who the skins should select @ #4, since you have no idea what anyone will do in the pros. The point about leadership through the TV, you're right, however many on this blog would like to see JC demonstrate it more by getting into players faces. My point about questions surrounding Clausen's leadership abilities have been bandied about on this blog for over a month now. Go back and catch up on it.

Posted by: TWISI | March 28, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Duke v Baylor coming up this afternoon...
Now we're seeing why Duke got the easy bracket "bye" by the NCAA bracket committee.. A bone thrown to the Network for one reason....."Ratings".
Duke is "ratings gold" (just google that with "Duke") and Duke has been exiting the tournament far too early.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 5:09 PM |

Whatever cry baby if Duke had the easy bracket then why is it that 3 out of the top 4 seeds mad it to the Elite 8. That was the only bracket to do that.

Stop whining you little b_tch why don't you make some more racial comments about Duke like yesterday so people can see what an idiot you really are.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 4:55 PM


Your videos dont show anything new. Your not going to change anyone's mind about JC. People have already formulated their opinion of him one way or another. Why dont you go back to the 08 season around week 8 or 9 when all the analysts were riding JC and saying he was the MVP of the league to that point. Analysts like Casserly change with the wind. That segment that Casserly made was filmed in October. Once Sherm Lewis came onboard JC and the offense improved immensely. The fact remains the o line has been suspect for the better parts of two seasons and the skill players here arent scaring anybody. All good qbs have if nothing else decent lines. Im not trying to change your mind but please stop posting that ridiculous video as if its gospel. And yes Casserly is a hater...of Dan Snyder so he will stick it to the skins anytime he can.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | March 28, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

bwaha..I hate duke, there just so f***in' honky...I mean , I like the individual Duke players, the point guards in full body traction, etc. and I like Nolan Smith , son of tragic Derek Smith, but when Coach K says" I hope Scheyer's DNA is spread throughout our organization for years to come" (how obscene), It can't be ignored, the racial, cuz they're the old Boston Celtics of the NBA, cherry-picking recruiting the best white boys for their honkier-than-thou audience...heheheheh, yeah..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

It can't be ignored, the racial, cuz they're the old Boston Celtics of the NBA, cherry-picking recruiting the best white boys for their honkier-than-thou audience...heheheheh, yeah..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 5:46 PM |

Maybe some of these other schools should recruit a few of these honkies maybe they would be better.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but, Flounder, would you let your daughter marry a player from Duke?? I should think not, the value of the spacepod would drop immediately, and what would Tebow say??..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Or be like Tennessee and recruit some blackies who drive around with drugs and guns.

Posted by: Rahtard | March 28, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

If anyone knows a good QB when they see one it's Charlie Casserly. Remember when he selected Heath Shuler #3 overall and we went on to win a bajillion super bowls? Yeah, me neither. Then he went on to the Texans and selected perennial MVP pro bowl future HOF David Carr. He was fired from the Redskins and ran the Texans into the ground. That's why he was fired from there and is currently unemployed. Excuse me if I don't get too excited over something that Charlie Casserly put together. Just sit back and watch the season unfold. When JC has protection, a solid running game, and a NFL level offensive scheme he will succeed. The truth is that we have to have all of that stuff anyway so just build it first and see if QB and WR are still questionable.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 28, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but, Flounder, would you let your daughter marry a player from Duke?? I should think not, the value of the spacepod would drop immediately, and what would Tebow say??..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 6:10 PM |

I will let my daughter mary who ever she wants considering she will be an adult and it wont be my choice.

I would hope that I raised her to make smart choices.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

You don't have to be a "blackie" in Tennessee to do that...Blackie's House of Beef is good, though..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I'll give Baylor credit they have a good team and the're playing tough.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Or be like Tennessee and recruit some blackies who drive around with drugs and guns.

Posted by: Rahtard | March 28, 2010 6:12 PM |

They're a lot of Whities doing that in Tennessee as well.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm just glad all Campbell haters have zero power over decision to retain or trade him. Most of you knows the truth about protecting the QB but your brains just refused to communicate with your minds when it comes to Mr. Campbell. I've tried many times to say the obvious, a quarterback without a solid consistent line is simply ordinary, but the dye that covered your half baked brains refused to clear. I'm not naming names, you know who you are, and everyone knows you, and being you must be quite pathetic.

Posted by: abxinc | March 28, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

F*ck Duke. Every call and every bounce in the 2nd half. BS.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

the old trent dilfer argument may be old, but the truth is a pro bowl/HoF QB is a luxury most NFL teams lack. More teams succeed in spite of an apparent weakness at QB than succeed nearly exclusively with one.

Posted by: ClassAct70 | March 28, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

succeed mith a a pro bowl/ HoF caliber QB that is.

Posted by: ClassAct70 | March 28, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

F*ck Duke. Every call and every bounce in the 2nd half. BS.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 7:16 PM |

Yes thats it blame the refs don't mention the fact that Baylor can't rebound or stop the 3 point shot.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

F Duke and everyone who roots for them (my wife included). That is all.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 28, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

F Duke and everyone who roots for them (my wife included). That is all.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 28, 2010 7:23 PM |

F you to Brown and tell you wife I said hello.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Stephon Heyer is awful and was not drafted for a reason. If we were not totally inept on evaluating O Linemen, or not averse to drafting them, he would not even be in the NFL.

Posted by: MadeRED | March 28, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Yes thats it blame the refs don't mention the fact that Baylor can't rebound or stop the 3 point shot.

Posted by: Flounder21

Easy to hit 3's (and tough to defend) when ball bounces directly to wide open guys.

Free throw advantage in 2nd half: 27-11 Duke, plus the blown call on the biggest call in the game in Duke's favor (the phantom charge that should have been Zoubek's 5th).

Belive what you want, that's some Tim Donaghy sh!t right there.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

But Campbell coulda won the Super Bowl with that team , no question..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 1:05 PM

ummm you must of missed Skinshaveagm's video showing JC with LOTS of time in the pocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZypDzW81-c&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

This video pretty sums up why we can't get any picks for JC...JC had plenty of time on these plays.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 28, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm just glad all Campbell haters have zero power over decision to retain or trade him. Most of you knows the truth about protecting the QB but your brains just refused to communicate with your minds when it comes to Mr. Campbell. I've tried many times to say the obvious, a quarterback without a solid consistent line is simply ordinary, but the dye that covered your half baked brains refused to clear. I'm not naming names, you know who you are, and everyone knows you, and being you must be quite pathetic.

Posted by: abxinc | March 28, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

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are you kidding me!

the guy does not trust what his eyes see.

He can't win under pressure. By pressure, I mean in the 4th quarter

fact: he never has.


JC17 will be replaced with JC7

see you on draft day....

Posted by: byrdinthesky | March 28, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

F all these damn honkies scoring against the Caps.

Posted by: SMACK1 | March 28, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see Michigan State in the Final Four...

...Looking forward to seeing "Magic" at courtside!

Too bad Indiana State can't make it back to the Final Four!

Did ya'll see "Magic" vs. "Bird" on HBO?

Great stuff!

Posted by: rickyroge | March 28, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Belive what you want, that's some Tim Donaghy sh!t right there.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 7:39 PM |

Don't cry dry your eye!!!!!!!

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Now we know why Zorn said "maroon and black".

His retinas were burned past usefulness from staring at the shehawk uni's.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 28, 2010 5:01 PM

Really,when did Zorn say 'morons and black'?

Posted by: abxinc | March 28, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I am so happy that Charlie figured out Campbell and proved his point based on what Campbell did in just a few plays. If you work it out you're taking a sampling of .018% of all the pass attempts last year in those vid's.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 28, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Don't cry dry your eye!!!!!!!

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 7:50 PM

Yup, the standard Duke fan response. Why argue facts when you can say "Na na na nah nahhh".

Who roots for Duke anyway? Unless you went there or are a 16 year old girl with a crush on some 17 year old Duke freshman point guard, I don't know any guys who openly root for them.

Bunch of sissy ass pansies.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

F you to Brown and tell you wife I said hello.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 7:25 PM


Before you get excited about the prospect of sending greetings to a fellow Duke fan, you should also know that she's a Tar Heels fan too. Seriously. This is the main reason I can't respect ANYTHING she says about sports...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 28, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Fact remains, when Campbell had a solid O-line at beginning of 2008, his QB rating was near the top in the NFL..Seen a little too much of his limitations the past 5 years , though, and I think opposing defenses got him made, too, a change is needed..

After the polar icecaps melt and the poles shift, basketball will be the honkiest sport on the planet, and hockey will be the funkiest thang since George Clinton...peaceout..

Posted by: frak | March 28, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Yup, the standard Duke fan response. Why argue facts when you can say "Na na na nah nahhh".

Who roots for Duke anyway? Unless you went there or are a 16 year old girl with a crush on some 17 year old Duke freshman point guard, I don't know any guys who openly root for them.

Bunch of sissy ass pansies.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 8:07 PM |

Facts I already gave you facts 23 second chance points because Baylor couldn't get a defensive rebound. Most of those were 3's because Baylor wasn't getting out on the shooters.

What team do you root for I want to switch so I can be a big tough guy like you.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Before you get excited about the prospect of sending greetings to a fellow Duke fan, you should also know that she's a Tar Heels fan too. Seriously. This is the main reason I can't respect ANYTHING she says about sports...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 28, 2010 8:13 PM

Brown,

Nevermind I take my high back it's a sin to be a fan of Duke and Carolina.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Did ya'll see "Magic" vs. "Bird" on HBO?

Great stuff!

Posted by: rickyroge | March 28, 2010 7:47 PM


I saw it a couple weeks ago and loved it. Sends me back to the days when the NBA was not only watchable but it was at its absolute best.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 28, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

hey romo.. that wasnt the Casserly video.

Next time check before you post.
But, I know it is difficult, ...... there are so many low-lights of Jason's 5 year Redskins Career to show and so little time.

Its not that I dont like JC as a person, its that I cannot understand why a QB with the worst QB TD efficiency rating of all the active NFL QBs with more than 900 attempts (and 211th out of 219 in NFL history)..and a 4-21 record in his division, continues to Start for the last 4 years? Other than his Contract size and Snyder's desperate attempt to get a return on his 3 draft picks trade investment.

Oh.. since you brought it up... here is the Casserly "how JC throws short safe passes to pad his stats clinic video" that you wanted.... Does this make Casserly and CBS h8trs??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

GM, I know that wasn't the video. The clip I posted of Manning's bad plays was to illustrate that you can put together a low-light reel of even one of the top QBs to ever play the game...because every quarterback has one. You did check the link, correct?

I referenced the Casserly video because you have posted it what seems like a hundred times, and no matter how many times you play it, Casserly will always start off his response with "Well, it has nothing to do with the play calling..." which invalidates everything he says after that.

KingJJ said it well, I'm not trying to change your mind, and I don't think JC is the even the equal of the younger Manning. But you keep bangin the same drum over and over...I get it, I root for him and you don't.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | March 28, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Icecaps melting finishes up in 50 years. Poles should not finish shifting for another 1000 years.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 28, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Glad you see what I gotta work with here, Flound. You'd think I'd view that as a red flag in the dating process but sometimes titties speak louder than rooting interests...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 28, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Before you get excited about the prospect of sending greetings to a fellow Duke fan, you should also know that she's a Tar Heels fan too. Seriously. This is the main reason I can't respect ANYTHING she says about sports...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 28, 2010 8:13 PM

Love this post, brownwood!

Posted by: League-Source | March 28, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

titties speak louder than rooting interests...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 28, 2010 8:19 PM |

Rooting interests speak louder than ANYTHING.

Posted by: League-Source | March 28, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Rooting interests speak louder than ANYTHING.

Posted by: League-Source \

I still will never forgive my grandmother for becoming a Coboys fan to spite my grandfather;s rooting interest in the Giants.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 28, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Glad you see what I gotta work with here, Flound. You'd think I'd view that as a red flag in the dating process but sometimes titties speak louder than rooting interests...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 28, 2010 8:19 PM |

I'm glad my wife has no interest in sports, she will watch a redskins game or two with me but thats it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

I'm thinking you keep posting that interview because it's a well known football guy taking up exactly your position. Because it's a former GM talking means it carries some weight, right?

So then by your criteria:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYC213-mj60

Posted by: RomoLongballs | March 28, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

What team do you root for I want to switch so I can be a big tough guy like you.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 8:14 PM

Duke got some good bounces on the offensive boards. It happens. Baylor played well, they just couldnt overcome the bounces and the fact that it was 8 on 5.

I don't root for any team cause I'm not a front running little groupie. I didnt go to a big college basketball school. I root for college basketball and I root for good clean fair games, which this was not, and is usually not the case when Duke is involved.

Nevermind that sports journalists everywhere were up in arms at the draw Duke got in the tourney.

Nevermind that Clark Kellogg was the one who was shocked at the "charge" call at the end of the game.

I'm not saying the draw or the call won them the game(s)...but when they get the breaks over and over again, it gets tiresome...

But I'm sure its all in our heads and only Duke fans know the truth...

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

GM, I know that wasn't the video. The clip I posted of Manning's bad plays was to illustrate that you can put together a low-light reel of even one of the top QBs to ever play the game...because every quarterback has one. You did check the link, correct?

I referenced the Casserly video because you have posted it what seems like a hundred times, and no matter how many times you play it, Casserly will always start off his response with "Well, it has nothing to do with the play calling..." which invalidates everything he says after that.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | March 28, 2010 8:16 PM
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geez.. you still dont get it.. The original post (see below) I made was NOT the Casserly video!! And yeah.. I saw your video about Manning having a bad game.. Oh yeah, you're right.. Manning has had a bad game or two.. and we're much better off with JC and a bad 4 years or so... 4-21 in the conference.

here is my original posting and your response.. click on the video.. Its a youtube of JC in the clutch someone posted earlier this morning..
dam-n.. like a brick..

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ummm you must of missed Skinshaveagm's video showing JC with LOTS of time in the pocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZypDzW81-c&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

But I'm sure its all in our heads and only Duke fans know the truth...

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 8:32 PM |

I've been rooting for Duke since I was 13, so take your front running comment and stick it.

Duke was more agressive in the second half going to the hoop, which intern gets you to the free throw line more.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I know the zone is what got Baylor there but I will never understand why a team with superior athleticism would play zone against a team that can shoot the three. West Virginia is going to give dook a beating.

F dook. Always.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 28, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

titties speak louder than rooting interests...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 28, 2010 8:19 PM |

Rooting interests speak louder than ANYTHING.

Posted by: League-Source | March 28, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse
Only on Sumdays, LS. The rest of the week, I got to go with the titties.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 28, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Just to clear the air...

This is NOT the Casserly "JC can make the short pass video". Its the more important "JC in the Clutch" video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZypDzW81-c&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I've been rooting for Duke since I was 13, so take your front running comment and stick it.

Duke was more agressive in the second half going to the hoop, which intern gets you to the free throw line more.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 8:38 PM |

LOL so was that right after their 91-92 championships or the 2001 championship?

Whateva man, I'm done. I know what I saw and thats fine with me. Enjoy the win.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I will say it one more time Dukes bracket had 3 out 4 top seeds in the final 8, no other bracket had this. The fact that two 5 seeds made it to the final four in two other brackets tells me there top 4 seeds weren't that good.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

LOL so was that right after their 91-92 championships or the 2001 championship?

Whateva man, I'm done. I know what I saw and thats fine with me. Enjoy the win.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 8:42 PM |

I was 13 in 1983 so go cry your self to sleep little baby.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

No dude, I do get it. The Manning video was my response to the haveaGM clutch video, and my text was referencing the Casserly video you have posted over and over. Not complicated.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | March 28, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Also, GM, I think you summed up our overall offense approach very well during last year's Saints game--you were something like "uh-oh, here comes the prevent offense"--funny sh!t. You don't think anything like gameplan/playcalling, Oline, running game--any of these other things play into that record of ours? All on JC? I think he played a part in it, but I don't put it all on his doorstep.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | March 28, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I am so happy that Charlie figured out Campbell and proved his point based on what Campbell did in just a few plays. If you work it out you're taking a sampling of .018% of all the pass attempts last year in those vid's.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 28, 2010 8:00 PM
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actually Casserly showed the clips of JC throwing indecisive short passes when longer scoring completions were open. It was a small video sampling but, the season was comprised of nearly 80 percent of JC's passes being for less than 10 yards. How many times did we see him make completions short of the sticks?..
The JC in the Clutch 2009 video shows a few of those 4 yard completions for 3rd and 8 situations. But, hey..a completion makes the stats look great as a pending RFA on a 4-12 team... Like his last pass of the season, a Hail Mary out of bounds, on the fly, at the 40, that cannot possibly be intercepted and adversely effect his QB rating.
Grossman probably wins the starting job barring some blockbuster trade for a top tier QB.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

This is all that matters;


Career Win/Loss
As a starter Jason Campbell has a horrid record of 15 wins and 39 loses. One of the worst by a starting Quarterback that has been allowed to continue as a starter for more than 4 years and the worst in Redskins history

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 28, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

SHUT THE HELL UP PUNK A@@ BI@$H FLOUNDERS YOU HAVE NO IDEAL WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DUMB A%@ PERIOD!! WEAK WEAK WEAK WEAK WEAK WEAK WEAK BRACKET

Posted by: rdbdaddy | March 28, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad Duke won! Always nice to see a less athletically gifted team beat the supposed better athletes.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 28, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

we all have no 'ideal' what you are talking about rbddaddy

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 28, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

we all have no 'ideal' what you are talking about rbddaddy

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 28, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

But you sounded super serial, though.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | March 28, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey... here's one guy happy we didn't sign Porter!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5033849

Posted by: jspin77 | March 28, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

JC17 will win or lose his job on the field, in competition.

I'm happy with that, and I hope we can all be happy when the best QB wins the job.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 28, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

SHUT THE HELL UP PUNK A@@ BI@$H FLOUNDERS YOU HAVE NO IDEAL WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DUMB A%@ PERIOD!! WEAK WEAK WEAK WEAK WEAK WEAK WEAK BRACKET

Posted by: rdbdaddy | March 28, 2010 9:13 PM |

Dumb ass done blown a gasket.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 28, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

I keep reading how Campbell is so inaccurate, and when it is pointed out that he had a 64.5% completion percentage, people say they were all dump off passes. Well, how did he get a 7.1 yards per pass average, when the top QBS who actually had deep passing games with big play receivers and competent O lines only got a yard or less more? It doesn't add up

Posted by: kenboy1 | March 28, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

JC17 will win or lose his job on the field, in competition.

I'm happy with that, and I hope we can all be happy when the best QB wins the job.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 28, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

cosign.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | March 28, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

This is all that matters;


Career Win/Loss
As a starter Jason Campbell has a horrid record of 15 wins and 39 loses. One of the worst by a starting Quarterback that has been allowed to continue as a starter for more than 4 years and the worst in Redskins history

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 28, 2010 9:11 PM

Jay Cutler's record as a starting QB since college is 35-63.

Won-loss record has a lot to do with the team a QB plays for.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 28, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I will say it one more time Dukes bracket had 3 out 4 top seeds in the final 8, no other bracket had this. The fact that two 5 seeds made it to the final four in two other brackets tells me there top 4 seeds weren't that good.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 28, 2010 8:43 PM

This fact debunks your theory more than it supports it. The fact that the 5 seeds made it to the Final Four on the other side actually shows how tough those brackets were. Kansas's bona fides were earned over the course of a season playing in a conference that had three teams play in the regional finals. The fact that they lost in the 2nd rd by two in a one and done tourney does not mean that they were not a Top 4 team. Same with Syracuse. They won the Big East handily but lost in the tourney without their starting center. A conference's or a team's relative strength is not always demonstrated by success in the NCAAs. But that's what makes the tournament so much fun to watch. The best team doesn't always win it.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 28, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad Duke won! Always nice to see a less athletically gifted team beat the supposed better athletes.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 28, 2010 9:16 PM

I would agree with that. The referees were definitely less athletic than Baylor.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 28, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

The best team doesn't always win it.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 28, 2010 9:51 PM

i think that's exacerbated this year because the one and done rule is catching up with the distribution of experienced talent throughout the tournament

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

*$#%^# duke ... and their disproportionate recruiting diversity. Where do they go for their BBall players, North Dakota? The NBA is 85 % african-amer.. yet, a top flight DIV 1 college (Duke) is 20 % African-Amer (if that much).. I could understand if it was a small Div 3 school.. but, not at Duke's level...where the next very plausible step is the NBA.
At that percentage differential how could you not wonder. And they are only hurting themselves.. I would guess more than a few blue chip HS prospects (caucasian and african-american) are turned-off by this "anomaly" and decide to play elsewhere.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 9:59 PM
you're spouting this crap off so no one will call you a bigot when you bash JC.

oh, and F Duke

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

The best team doesn't always win it.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 28, 2010 9:51 PM

Not always, agreed. But this year, the best team won it in Duke's bracket. Which bracket was UNC in this year? How are they doing? I'm sure the best team will win in their bracket, too.

Posted by: League-Source | March 28, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I don't know that the one and done rule has changed anything since kids began skipping college altogether in large numbers. The only one and done kid to lead a team to a title is Carmelo Anthony. Other championship teams over the last 10 years have been led primarily by upper classmen save for Florida, which won the first of its back to back titles led by sophmores.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 28, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

This is all that matters;

Career Win/Loss
As a starter Jason Campbell has a horrid record of 15 wins and 39 loses. One of the worst by a starting Quarterback that has been allowed to continue as a starter for more than 4 years and the worst in Redskins history

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 28, 2010 9:11 PM

Jay Cutler's record as a starting QB since college is 35-63.

Won-loss record has a lot to do with the team a QB plays for.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 28, 2010 9:50 PM
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dam-n.. going back to a Pro-Bowl QB's college W-L stats.. to make a point.. Granted, Cutler had it rough last year, his first the Chicago system. But, what a drop off from Denver to Chicago.

In 2007, with JC, the Skins were 5-7 W-L, without JC, when he went out injured for the last 4 games, they were 4-0 W-L with the same EXACT personnel except a different QB.
I agree with 1965skins..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

"The should Skins select OL with both picks. A top LT with #4 and RT or C with #37. They should be able to find 1st round OL talent with the 2nd round pick..."

Ths again seems like the best of all availiable options for the team.

L Jones won't take the offer the team extended, and S Heyer doesn't satisfy.

Tackles at #4 and #37 would satisfy all concerns--no matter who the players are.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 28, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't know that the one and done rule has changed anything since kids began skipping college altogether in large numbers. The only one and done kid to lead a team to a title is Carmelo Anthony. Other championship teams over the last 10 years have been led primarily by upper classmen save for Florida, which won the first of its back to back titles led by sophmores.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 28, 2010 10:10 PM

totally. what i mean is, like, kevin durant would still be at texas. or john wall would get two or three more shots at a title, but he's gonna be gone. we agree on the point about senior talent , but that's at duke and a bunch of the "mid-majors." so the point is the midwest really was the bracket of death.

every mich. st. win makes that terps game a little easier to take

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

LS, always the snark. I'm sure you are aware the Heels are in the Final Four of the NIT (Hey a championship is a championship). You should be thankful the Heels are down after they owned the members of this dook team for three years. And I didn't say dook wasn't the best team in its region. It was because its region was relatively weeeeeak. You should probably let "your school" win the title before talking sjk.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 9:59 PM
you're spouting this crap off so no one will call you a bigot when you bash JC.

oh, and F Duke

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 10:03 PM
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I am not the only one negative towards JC.. how does this make us bigots? I would say 80 percent of the RI blog is ready for a new QB. And since the Skins didnt extend his Contract, they might also agree.

4-12 W-L knows no color...and speaking of which it would ruin your argument if that is what you are implying.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I am not the only one negative towards JC.. how does this make us bigots? I would say 80 percent of the RI blog is ready for a new QB. And since the Skins didnt extend his Contract, they might also agree.

4-12 W-L knows no color...and speaking of which it would ruin your argument if that is what you are implying.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 10:24 PM

80% of the blog can post about something other than JC bashing. i just get sick of it, over and over and over! you and sovine and haveagm and 1965skins and leevi are all the same guy anyway. shame jc ruined such a talent-laden roster. if it wasn't for JC zorn would have coached us to the superbowl, i know, i know.

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

and your point about duke is stupid.

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

skinsneedagm

"$#%^# duke ... and their disproportionate recruiting diversity. Where do they go for their BBall players, North Dakota?"

You can't knock Coach K's hustle as he once again has his team in the Final 4.

If he has a model monochromatic Duke kid in mind, that's his call as he has had success with them in the same way John Thompson had success at Georgetown with the type of player he wanted.

No one wants or should decry the racial composition of a team that routinely winds up in the championship game.

In fact, your beef should be with the manner of the whole NCAA Championship itself.

Countless poorly academically prepared black basketball players spend roughly a month and a half focusing on games while their white student counterparts are in classes getting an education.

Black kids who are playing Division I basketball aren't graduating at the same rates as the white kids who sit in dorms cheering them on.

Countless black boys are spit out of colleges without degrees, but with memories of buzzer beating shots and slick millionaire coaches.

That's where you should question the NCAA, as what's mad about the march it takes for CBS and ESPN money is that it doesn't seem to remember that the kid from the 'hood should be seen as student first, ballplayer second.

So if Coach K is doing anything right, it's bringing in kids who'll both graduate AND win an occasional title.

My hope is that more college coaches do things the way he does: the kids need to leave school with memories AND their degrees.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 28, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 28, 2010 10:37 PM

and that's why snagms duke post was stupid

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

and your point about duke is stupid.

Posted by: terrapin3 | March 28, 2010 10:33 PM
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There are alot of well paid journalists saying the same "stupid" thing about Duke.

And if it wasnt for JC..Zorn probably would still be HC of the Skins.. So, we do have one thing to thank JC for.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe, a 2008 report showed that dook basketball had a overall grad rate of 67% and its A-A players had a grad rate of 63%. Just sayin'.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 28, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

BIG 12 is too easy. BIG 10 = BIG 12 lite
HORIZON LEAGUE takes it all. I had to say that because my pick KENTUCKY went down in flames last night.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 28, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

F Dallas
F Duke
F Yankees
F Pens

That's it that's the list.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 28, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

If he has a model monochromatic Duke kid in mind, that's his call as he has had success with them in the same way John Thompson had success at Georgetown with the type of player he wanted.

No one wants or should decry the racial composition of a team that routinely winds up in the championship game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 28, 2010 10:37 PM
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well written moe.....
My point is that the recruiting makeup of say a John Thompson Div 1 level Gtwn team more closely reflects the proportionate makeup of the NBA...in contrast to the Duke recruitment makeup (in this regard).
Grad rates being the same.

Speaking of grad rates..
I've been in Thompson's office.. He had a deflated BBall on the back corner of his desk and remarked that it was to show the insignificance of BBall compared to a Degree. Pretty impressive. And his grad rate is impressive too.. Which disappointed many who tried to use that against him during his opposition of Proposition 42. He had it right..and it was modified.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sunday-at-the-Post-6911.html&team=101

5. The Redskins seem more intent on drafting a left tackle than a quarterback in the first round, so all those Jimmy Clausen rumors to D.C. might be premature. I’m hearing Oklahoma State’s Russell Okung might be the pick.

________________________

Take it for whatever, Michael Lombardi had the Skins taking Clausen @ #4 in his mock on NFLN a couple of weeks ago. Also, I'm starting to see Trent Williams rise up the draft board. I wouldn't be surprised when we get closer to the draft that Trent moves to #1 OT on team's board who desire versatility among OL players (Skins?)

Posted by: TWISI | March 28, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

dam-n.. going back to a Pro-Bowl QB's college W-L stats.. to make a point.. Granted, Cutler had it rough last year, his first the Chicago system. But, what a drop off from Denver to Chicago.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 28, 2010 10:11 PM

OK, so let's focus exclusively on that Pro Bowl QB's NFL W-L stats. Cutler took over a team that went 13-3 in 2005 and led them to a 2-3 finish when he took over in 2006 (they finished 9-7 thanks to Jake Plummer).

Jay Cutler has NEVER had a winning season since.

My point remains, W-L has a lot to do with what team a QB is on.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 28, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

My point remains, W-L has a lot to do with what team a QB is on.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 28, 2010 11:39 PM
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and mine remains..
"In 2007, with JC, Skins are 5-7 W-L.
Without JC, they were 4-0 W-L with the same "team" or the same EXACT personnel, except for QB."

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 29, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Take it for whatever, Michael Lombardi had the Skins taking Clausen @ #4 in his mock on NFLN a couple of weeks ago.
Posted by: TWISI | March 28, 2010 11:36 PM
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I have read somewhere that Shanahan never discusses the players he ends up selecting. I hope his surprise pick is Jevan Snead in the 4th, if still available. Which is becoming more unlikely as he continues to impress in workouts and the likes of Jerry Rhome.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 29, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

In 2005, with Jay Cutler, Broncos are 2-3 W-L.
Without THAT JC, they were 7-4 W-L with the same "team" or the same EXACT personnel, except for QB.

Does that mean Jay Cutler sucks?

I wouldn't make that argument.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 29, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

To the fool who said JC has NEVER led a 4th qtr comeback: 2008 season vs Saints and Cardinals JC had game winning passes late in the 4th to win the game. That same season JC had clutch completions vs Dallas and Phila.to seal the games. This season he led us to leads in games vs Dall, Phila, and N.O. only to have the win squandered by the defense AND/OR the K.

Posted by: HogheadGs | March 29, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

To the fool who said JC has NEVER led a 4th qtr comeback: 2008 season vs Saints and Cardinals JC had game winning passes late in the 4th to win the game. That same season JC had clutch completions vs Dallas and Phila.to seal the games. This season he led us to leads in games vs Dall, Phila, and N.O. only to have the win squandered by the defense AND/OR the K.

Posted by: HogheadGs | March 29, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

To the fool who said JC has NEVER led a 4th qtr comeback: 2008 season vs Saints and Cardinals JC had game winning passes late in the 4th to win the game. That same season JC had clutch completions vs Dallas and Phila.to seal the games. This season he led us to leads in games vs Dall, Phila, and N.O. only to have the win squandered by the defense AND/OR the K.

Posted by: HogheadGs | March 29, 2010 12:12 AM
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not sure if your facts are right for 2008 or who the "fool" is.... but, in 2009 I dont recall a come from behind rally by JC. The research is pretty easy with only 4 wins, total..
The Denver game comes the closest but, it was Simms who lost the game for Denver after Orton was injured. Simms was terrible.

here is a great video called "JC in the Clutch".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZypDzW81-c&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 29, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

rd 1 - qb jimmy clausen
rd 2 - ot
rd 3 - trade LL - fs
rd 4 - ol/olb
rd 5 - olb/ol
rd 6 - best avail
rd 7 - best avail
non picks invite (small school) olb/ol/and heavy hitters that have crazy eyes and have grade point avg of 3.2 or above in subj that mean something.

Posted by: redskinswannaqb | March 29, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

I thought HogheadGs made it very clear that it was poor/ineffective prevent defense that led to the losses in the aforementioned games

Posted by: ClassAct70 | March 29, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Gotta love the one-sided JC videos clowns like SkinsneedaGM keep posting...I could do an even longer video of Brett Favre and make it look like he's the worst QB the world has ever seen.

Not comparing JC to Favre but that video is no proof of anything except that the guy who put it together doesn't like JC. You can cherry-pick stats and videos to say whatever you want them to say...just ask Fox News.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 29, 2010 5:34 AM | Report abuse

brownwood, Was the Missus in a "cooperative" mood last night after Duke's victory?

Posted by: League-Source | March 29, 2010 5:49 AM | Report abuse

LS, always the snark. I'm sure you are aware the Heels are in the Final Four of the NIT (Hey a championship is a championship). You should be thankful the Heels are down after they owned the members of this dook team for three years. And I didn't say dook wasn't the best team in its region. It was because its region was relatively weeeeeak. You should probably let "your school" win the title before talking sjk.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 28, 2010 10:20 PM

LH--I concede all points to you. You're right. But, if I wait until Duke wins the title to talk sjk, half of us will be on social security and the other half dead. I'm afraid this is as close to the title as we're getting. We're Final Four! We're Final Four!

Posted by: League-Source | March 29, 2010 5:53 AM | Report abuse

Heyer starting? I had hopes for the up and coming season. I guess nothing has changed. Keeping the same line was what killed the offence last year. Bringing in 2nd and 3rd tier players are not the answer nor is starting the superbowl roster Zorn had either.

I trust Buges period.

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | March 29, 2010 5:57 AM | Report abuse

Mini-Me Shanaman better get a clue on this one. Bring Buges in as a consultant.

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | March 29, 2010 6:00 AM | Report abuse

brownwood, Was the Missus in a "cooperative" mood last night after Duke's victory?

Posted by: League-Source | March 29, 2010 5:49 AM


She's just getting over surgery so that's a no-go for a while.

Geez, what the hell am I doing discussing this you?

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 29, 2010 6:06 AM | Report abuse

Heyer starting? I had hopes for the up and coming season. I guess nothing has changed. Keeping the same line was what killed the offence last year. Bringing in 2nd and 3rd tier players are not the answer nor is starting the superbowl roster Zorn had either.

I trust Buges period.

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | March 29, 2010 5:57 AM |

Did he say he was going to start? No so stop crying and see what happens.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 29, 2010 6:08 AM | Report abuse

Surgery? Hey, I hope it went well. But that's not what I was asking. "Cooperative" means like she brought you a few beers, made your favorite meal, did the dishes, walked the dog for you.

Posted by: League-Source | March 29, 2010 6:11 AM | Report abuse

She's just getting over surgery so that's a no-go for a while.

Geez, what the hell am I doing discussing this you?

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 29, 2010 6:06 AM | Report abuse
dental work?

Posted by: frediefritz | March 29, 2010 6:27 AM | Report abuse

Without getting into too much detail, she had something a bit more invasive than dental work. There's a 2-4 week recovery and we're just getting to week 2. But thanks for the well-wishes.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 29, 2010 6:32 AM | Report abuse

This from RI-favorite, Peter King:

I think one of the most influential young coaches in the game is getting to be Kyle Shanahan. The new offensive coordinator of the Redskins is 30, and he's doing quite a bit more than most Washington observers thought he'd be doing under his dad -- like running all of the private Tebow workouts for the Redskins recently.

Posted by: League-Source | March 29, 2010 7:09 AM | Report abuse

You can cherry-pick stats and videos to say whatever you want them to say...just ask Fox News.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 29, 2010 5:34 AM | Report abuse

MSNBC fan brownie?

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 29, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

If by some misfortune Heyer is the starting tackle come September, Shanahan is going to hate him, his son his going to hate him, and the poor quarterback picking himself off of the turf is going to hate him. The guy has never, never proved himself in any way other than being the last tackle standing.

Posted by: driley | March 29, 2010 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Good luck to the missus brownie.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 29, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse

CNNSI:

In case Sunday didn't feel enough like the 90s and early 2000s, Duke even had a questionable call help seal the win. Did Acy really deserve a technical foul after he tangled with Scheyer with 1:19 remaining? And if Acy's actions merited a T, why didn't officials also ring up Scheyer, whose flailing elbow after the whistle incited Acy in the first place?

End.

That call still wasn't as bad as the "charge". But that little punk Scheyer was smugly smirking after the technical cause he knew what he got away with.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 29, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

That call still wasn't as bad as the "charge". But that little punk Scheyer was smugly smirking after the technical cause he knew what he got away with.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 29, 2010 7:33 AM

Here's another sour-grapes poster, still bitter because his application to Duke was rejected. In your case, Rypien, it's easy to see why.

Duke 78
Baylor 71

Posted by: League-Source | March 29, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

MSNBC fan brownie?

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 29, 2010 7:18 AM


Nope. Fan of staying on the sidelines in political debates. But as a bystander, it's pretty pathetic to see the news in this country so slanted one way or the other. You'd think we could find at least one news outlet around here that just reports the news without bias...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 29, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Sorry brownie, money talks.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 29, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

by all the posts on here about clausen he sounds like another jc17. not very smart in reading defenses and slow thinking.

Posted by: rls1041 | March 29, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

zone beeping

Posted by: RomoLongballs | March 29, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Well folks, I've beaten you black and blue with the Charlie Casserly video, but evidently you need more evidence. Charlie Casserly video part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZypDzW81-c&feature=related

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | March 28, 2010 11:45 AM


You can make a video like this on any QB that has ever played in the NFL. Just like you can make a video like that you can also make one like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYC213-mj60


SO IN OTHER WORDS....WHAT'S YOUR POINT?!?!?!

Posted by: eazy413 | March 29, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

There's no way heyer starts on any other NFC east team. One thing he does do well is help JC get up off the ground after he has been sacked.

Posted by: burke_jack | March 29, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

richr75 - Winner, winner, chicken dinner. First, and most prescient comment.

Posted by: tony11 | March 30, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: HogheadGs | March 30, 2010 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Mark Rypien had time in the pocket because I believe he had the best group of guys up front protecting his butt. It also helps when you have a hell of a running game, and MONK and Clark catching the ball. I think the Special Teams also did their part in establishing good field position, and just didn't FAIR CATCH everything punted to them. I think having not starting every series of downs on your own 10, 15, or 20 yard lines gives you options in your offense. That's right!..We had the worse WCO in the whole league. HHHHMMMMM!!!..Yeah!..They also had a DEFENSE that went out and shutdown opposing offenses, and never would allowed teams like the Lions, or Falcons to go from one end of the field to the next for scores. OHHH!..I almost forgot that they had very capable coaches on the sidelines, and up in the both making the calls.

Caserly is a BUM!..Campbell didn't lose those games on his whole, and this year it'll be his to lose solely if he doesn't go out and perform. Rams will go after Bradford so we won't have to worry about that. Clausen won't see that #4 spot, so whether Okung is available or not, you draft the best Left Tackle out there, and then work to improve the rest of the offensive line. Come November,December, and January it's going to be the running game, and not long passes down the field that's going to win games at home and on the road.

Posted by: WARPATH85 | March 30, 2010 5:27 AM | Report abuse

I love and respect Buges, but at some point, he had to realize that he didn't have the same group of guys he had win he won 3 Superbowls. They actually played like DIRT BAGS, and not HOGS. There's no way you can go back years ago and compare teams in the 80's and 90's to what you have on the field now. Hell the 49er's don't have anything close to those championship teams, and the the Dolphins haven't seen the light of day since Marino called it quits. Just like you can't discipline kids in school, you have to pamper players in todays game. Put your hands on them, and it becomes a full blown investigation by the league. This team will start winning when they start showing some pride in themselves and get some GUTS! Let's see if Shannahan is able to put an Invisible Boot up some of these guys butts!

Posted by: WARPATH85 | March 30, 2010 5:40 AM | Report abuse

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