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UConn safety expects to hear from Redskins soon

Remember those 20-plus players who were at the Redskins'' minicamp last weeked on tryouts? Expect to see at least a handful return to town when the team hosts its first OTA (organized team activity) on Monday.

One of the players who participated in that minicamp was Connecticut safety Robbie Vaughn. He spoke with the Hartford Courant and said he expects the Redskins to sign five to eight of the undrafted rookie free agents. Vaughn said Redskins officials relayed that estimate to his agent, Tony Paige.

"Could know something today or tomorrow," Vaughn told the Courant, "because they start OTA on Monday so..."

Don't expect any official announcements in the next couple of days, though. The Redskins will likely extend a few offers, but the team hasn't announced any of its offseason signings before they've had a signature on a contract. That probably wouldn't happen until the players actually return to Redskins Park, late Sunday night or Monday morning before the OTAs begin.

Here's the list of players believed to have been trying out during the minicamp: Vaughn, Northeastern State defensive tackle T.J. Raymond, Kansas State receiver Brandon Banks, Northern Iowa receiver D.J. Hord, Mississippi receiver Shay Hodge, Northwestern safety Brendan Smith, Massachussetts defensive tackle Kyle Harrington, Arizona State
linebacker Mike Nixon, UTEP cornerback Melvin Stephenson II, Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark, Troy running back Maurice Greer, Eastern Arizona defensive tackle Marques Slocum, Murray State wide receiver Derrick Townsel, Massachusetts running back Tony Nelson, Stanford safety Bo McNally, Wisconsin linebacker Jaevery McFadden and Colorado State safety Klint Kubiak.

By Rick Maese  |  May 14, 2010; 3:30 PM ET
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Posted by: jtrob_1 | May 14, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

davis is a frustrating cat to root for, tons of talent, just can't seem to get it straight....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 14, 2010 3:27 PM

You gotta give the kid credit. He's like 6'7" (H & W) playing PF/C. The fact that he's in the league (and playing regularly) is a testament to something.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 14, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

yeah sure it is.

It's called "KG constantly has his foot up my ass syndrome."

Posted by: RedDMV | May 14, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

lh, oh no doubt, but he's really talented....and frustrating at the same time.

KG needs to keep that foot up there to remind him to play hard....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 14, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Wish I was 6'7", I'd be playing in the NBA.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 14, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Interesting study. Thought I'd share in light of recent conversation. So Sween you were saying what about children?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 14, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Time's up!

Beep beep

If you hate people of the Dallas race, are you a racist?

Posted by: beep-beep | May 14, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Nope, just the chosen race.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 14, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

lh, oh no doubt, but he's really talented....and frustrating at the same time.

KG needs to keep that foot up there to remind him to play hard....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 14, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse
___________

It won't matter what KG or anyone else says if they have to face the matchup nightmare known as the defending NBA-champion Los Angeles Lakers. Celtics will go down.....

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 14, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

^^subliminal irony in it's purest form^^

Posted by: RedDMV | May 14, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

It won't matter what KG or anyone else says if they have to face the matchup nightmare known as the defending NBA-champion Los Angeles Lakers. Celtics will go down.....

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 14, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Celtics win Championship

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 14, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Robert Vaughn was initially signed by the Packers as a UFA but released.

About 6'/200lbs.

Had 201 tackles and 14 ints during his career at UConn in 40 games as a safety and special teamer.

Posted by: p1funk | May 14, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

^^subliminal irony in it's purest form^^

Posted by: RedDMV | May 14, 2010 4:13 PM |

Blatant idiocy in it's purest form.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 14, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"Interesting study. Thought I'd share in light of recent conversation. So Sween you were saying what about children?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 14, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse"

Animal instinct at its finest. Evolutionary theory says the #1 goal of life is to survive and perpetuate itself. Children are born with the instinct that what they look like is best, and anything foreign is threatening. You have to learn otherwise.

Racism wasn't socially constructed; it's a natural defense mechanism that's been around forever (though it has evolved due to social construct).

At least, that's my belief.

Posted by: psps23 | May 14, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Red, I'm gonna lay off you for now but that comment was a very obvious jab at our whole argument. If you can't see that then you really do need some learnin'

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 14, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

It won't matter what KG or anyone else says if they have to face the matchup nightmare known as the defending NBA-champion Los Angeles Lakers. Celtics will go down.....

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 14, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse


It would be a good matchup, and while the nod would naturally go to the defending champs, I don't think it's by a wide margin.


The Lakers have 2 perimeter defenders but the C's have 3 guys on the perimeter that can play.

If KG can focus on erasing Gasol, then I think the C's have a nice shot at winning it.

Posted by: p1funk | May 14, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

If KG can focus on erasing Gasol

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....was that serious?

KG would scowl at him, and gasol would soil himself...then ask out of the game...

Gasol=soft

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 14, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Red, I'm gonna lay off you for now but that comment was a very obvious jab at our whole argument. If you can't see that then you really do need some learnin'

Posted by: scampbell1975

Or as I read it: Red, I'm gonna lay off you until the second part of this sentence. Then I'm gonna take a nice crisp shot at you with the next sentence.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 14, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Or as I read it: Red, I'm gonna lay off you until the second part of this sentence. Then I'm gonna take a nice crisp shot at you with the next sentence.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 14, 2010 4:27 PM |

Yea, I shoulda reversed the order.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 14, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

If KG can focus on erasing Gasol

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....was that serious?

KG would scowl at him, and gasol would soil himself...then ask out of the game...

Gasol=soft

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 14, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse


That's what I'm saying.

I see KG erasing Gasol - when I said "focus" on it, I meant that I don't think KG has to have monster offensive #s for C's to win the series, as long as he makes his primary goal to D-up on Gasol and make him a non-factor.

Posted by: p1funk | May 14, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

It would be a good matchup, and while the nod would naturally go to the defending champs, I don't think it's by a wide margin.


The Lakers have 2 perimeter defenders but the C's have 3 guys on the perimeter that can play.

If KG can focus on erasing Gasol, then I think the C's have a nice shot at winning it.

Posted by: p1funk | May 14, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse
_____

KG isn't going to just erase Pau again. Pau's a much stronger and more aggressive player than he was back in the 2008 series. I would give a healthy Bynum a slight edge over Perkins. The main problem I see is slowing down Rondo. Fisher may have to be parked in favor of Farmar for long stretches for that very reason. They've dealt with other Rondo-types in the playoffs with success, but it's obviously still a challenge. At the end of the day, it may take Kobe to defend him in the key spots. Other than that, I like the matchups. Crazy Pills Artest should be able to do what he does and shut down Pierce, and I obviously like Kobe's chances on both ends with Ray Allen. And Odom's always the X factor inside the paint. I agree that it'd be close, 'cause neither team will just lay down, but I think my beloved Lakers would take it.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 14, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

gasol, isn't half a man, and KG would simply fart in his direction, and Pau would faint....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 14, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

KG erasing Gasol???

Is this gonna happen in an offseason pickup game.

Magic beat Celts in 6.
Lakers beat Suns in 7.

Lakers beat Magic in 7.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 14, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

KG isn't going to just erase Pau again. Pau's a much stronger and more aggressive player than he was back in the 2008 series

Stop it right now...you know thats simply not true, and you don't even believe it yourself.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 14, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Bruins? Will they go down tonite and get credit for an all-time choke job?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 14, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Why is everyone talking Lakers-Celtics?

Magic are going to embarrass the Celtics.

Suns are going to give the Lakers serious trouble, and will win in 6 or 7.

It's going to be a Suns-Magic final. And an all-out shootout of a series for victory.

Posted by: psps23 | May 14, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

KG isn't going to just erase Pau again. Pau's a much stronger and more aggressive player than he was back in the 2008 series

Stop it right now...you know thats simply not true, and you don't even believe it yourself.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 14, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

But people forget that Pau is a greasy European. KG is an American. Nuff said, KG wins.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 14, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: psps23 | May 14, 2010 4:18 PM

did you read the article beyond the first paragraph or look at the study? Even black children had a bias toward white.

The tests showed that white children, as a whole, responded with a high rate of what researchers call "white bias," identifying the color of their own skin with positive attributes and darker skin with negative attributes. Spencer said even black children, as a whole, have some bias toward whiteness, but far less than white children.
"All kids on the one hand are exposed to the stereotypes" she said. "What's really significant here is that white children are learning or maintaining those stereotypes much more strongly than the African-American children. Therefore, the white youngsters are even more stereotypic in their responses concerning attitudes, beliefs and attitudes and preferences than the African-American children."
Spencer says this may be happening because "parents of color in particular had the extra burden of helping to function as an interpretative wedge for their children. Parents have to reframe what children experience ... and the fact that white children and families don't have to engage in that level of parenting, I think, does suggest a level of entitlement. You can spend more time on spelling, math and reading, because you don't have that extra task of basically reframing messages that children get from society."

So there goes your theory.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 14, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Pau v. KG is a good match-up.

BTG, I don't think it's as one sided as you think. Pau has the height to match KG and a pretty decent post game.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | May 14, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

The Celtics are too deep for the Lakers.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 14, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Scamp & Red, you guys are too much alike!

That's why ya'll can't let this thing go. Bet if ya'll ever met, you'd prolly get along great. Yeah, you'd call each other all kinds of sons-o-bit ches sometimes 'cause you disagree on politics and race stuff, but on another level it'd be like looking at a mirror image of yourself.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 14, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

KG isn't going to just erase Pau again. Pau's a much stronger and more aggressive player than he was back in the 2008 series

Stop it right now...you know thats simply not true, and you don't even believe it yourself.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 14, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse
________

I absolutely do believe that, and as a matter of fact, as good as Pau's been playing recently, I think Pau will win that battle. In 2008, I think Pau was (1) overwhelmed by simply being in the finals, (2) serving as the only big man, and (3) playing in a much less aggressive style than he does now and therefore let KG basically get the best of him. I've watched many of the Lakers' games over the past two years, and Pau is dramtically different now than back then. He's one of the reasons the Lakers have had success against the celtics in the past two regular seasons. Don't forget, Pau shut down Dwight Howard last year. He will at a minimum be fine against KG this year, trust me. KG's undeniably a great player, but it won't work out like you think at all. He hasn't seen someone like Pau yet this year.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 14, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I watched the Suns sweep the Spurs, it was innaresting..The Spurs had no answer for Deadeye Nash and Stoudemire..They tried to put the Pitt rookie Blair on Stud-Air and that was a joke..They put Duncan on him, and Deadeye ripped by 'em..Lakers better show up with these Suns, they ain't foolin' around..

Q-Tip got mugged by the cops in the 9th grade , and his vocal chords frozed permanently..

Posted by: frak | May 14, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"Scamp & Red, you guys are too much alike!"

Yeah, they're both suicidal..There ain't no "Bonzai!!" to believe in, so they kamikaze random piles of nothingness..

Posted by: frak | May 14, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

KG's undeniably a great player, but it won't work out like you think at all. He hasn't seen someone like Pau yet this year.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 14, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse


Bro, you are obviously a big-time Lakers fan that's looking at Pau like a pressed man looking at his girlfriend.

I'll give you that Pau has toughened up his game over the past year or 2, but given what a limp softy he started out as that's not saying much - there is no way he bests a focused/healthy KG.

KG would hold him firmly below his averages.

He's not going to muscle inside position against KG. He's not going to dribble by KG. He's going to have to hope that he can put KG on his hip and hit some 10-12 foot half-hook turnarounds with KG blanketed all over him.

Posted by: p1funk | May 14, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

"Scamp & Red, you guys are too much alike!

That's why ya'll can't let this thing go. Bet if ya'll ever met, you'd prolly get along great. "

+++

Oh yeah, after they beat the snot out of each other and emptied the magazines, they'd probably be BFFL.

...sitting around on the front porch late evenings laughing at the way things used to be.

Posted by: edvar | May 14, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 14, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Pau is a pretty good passer. I think he'll adjust his game to KG. He's definitely going to need help on defense, and I think he'll get it from Odom.

But hey, the Lakers & Celts are both going to have serious challenges before they meet each other. The Suns won't be a cakewalk, and neither will the Magic.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 14, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Bro, you are obviously a big-time Lakers fan that's looking at Pau like a pressed man looking at his girlfriend.

I'll give you that Pau has toughened up his game over the past year or 2, but given what a limp softy he started out as that's not saying much - there is no way he bests a focused/healthy KG.

KG would hold him firmly below his averages.

He's not going to muscle inside position against KG. He's not going to dribble by KG. He's going to have to hope that he can put KG on his hip and hit some 10-12 foot half-hook turnarounds with KG blanketed all over him.

Posted by: p1funk | May 14, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse
______

Yeah, I'm actually as big a Lakers fanatic as a am a Redskins fanatic (a long, long story). And I admitted that KG is certainly a tough matchup, but my point is that you and Beantown are dramatically underestimating Pau. His skillset will be really tough KG and it's not really an advantage for the Celtics there. And Pau isn't going to fall for KG's typical scowl/intimidate/whine routine that he usually pulls.

Have to go...later.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 14, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

not to bring up football here, but dark-horse Robbie Vaughan wasn't on the list of undrafted free agents that RI posters recommended to Shanahan last week.

here it is, in case you forgot (ranked in order of preference):

Daryll Clark (PSU QB)
Logan Paulsen (UCLA TE)
Anderson Russell (OSU S)
Melvin Stephenson II (UTEP CB)
Tony Nelson (UMass RB)

we agreed that safety is a position in need of competition, although Anderson Russell was our favorite there... and didn't see Russell or Paulsen on the list of players believed to have been at minicamp.

offseason is lean times for beat reporters and stringers, but personally I'd like to have more reporting like the last two paragraphs of Rick's post, rather than fluff pieces about McNabb or DaVaris Daniels.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Pau looks really scared of KG.


Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 14, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse


Oh, please.

You want to play the YouTube highlight game?

Fine...I'm game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeev8dZ0lg0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3rDsgHJEeI&feature=related

Posted by: p1funk | May 14, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | May 14, 2010 5:13 PM

How do those vids disprove my point that Pau is not scared of KG. He's been playing KG since he's been in the League. Look at their head-to-head match ups. He does not shrink when KG is on the court.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 14, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, after they beat the snot out of each other and emptied the magazines, they'd probably be BFFL.

...sitting around on the front porch late evenings laughing at the way things used to be.

Posted by: edvar | May 14, 2010 5:02 PM

LOL, I meant to caveat that with they met each other on the streets, with no knowledge of each others RI identities.

I work with a lot of people I would consider total jacka$$es based on their political views alone (which often seem racially tinged), but there's something more when you're one-on-one in front of someone. In person. There's a respect when you're in front of someone that seems to go "all out the water" when people are blogging anonymously.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 14, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse


Some thoughts for DONOVAN from Huey (Piano) Smith:


I get a-high (oh yes) blood pressure (oh yes)
When you call my name (oh yes)
Uh-uh-huh (oh yes)
I get a high (oh yes) blood pressure (oh yes)
When you call my name
(Oh, yes, oh yes)
I get a high blood pressure
Well, baby when you're by my side
Yes (yes) I get a-high (oh yes)
Blood pressure (oh yes) when you're by side (oh yes)
Uh-huh-huh (oh yes)

I get a-high (oh yes) blood pressure
When you speak to me (oh yes)
Uh-huh-huh (oh yes)
I get a-high blood pressure I can hardly see (oh yes)
Oh-ooh (oh yes)
I get a high blood pressure
Yes, baby when you get in my arms
Yes, get a high (oh yes) blood pressure
When you're in my arms (oh yes)
Uh-huh-huh (oh yes)

My eyes start to jumpin'
It's a terrible strain
My heart gets to thumpin'
Up and down in pain
Chills run up and down my spine, it's true
My face startin' to sweatin' an it's
(All because a-you)

I get a high blood pressure
'Cause a I'm your man (oh yes) oh yes


Posted by: TheCork | May 14, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

How do those vids disprove my point that Pau is not scared of KG. He's been playing KG since he's been in the League. Look at their head-to-head match ups. He does not shrink when KG is on the court.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 14, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse


Well if you want to hammer away at the "being scared" point, then fine. How "scared" is Pau of KG? I don't know, and I think we can give Bean some trash-talking leeway on that one.

My point is just that KG's defense (at its peak performance) bests Pau's offense (at its peak performance).

Considering how 2008 went down, I'd say the burden is on Pau to prove otherwise in a Finals Series.

Posted by: p1funk | May 14, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

"So there goes your theory.

Posted by: learnedhand1"

I did read it. That's Spencer's theory.

Regardless, this is one of the most interesting passages:

"Spencer says this may be happening because "parents of color in particular had the extra burden of helping to function as an interpretative wedge for their children. Parents have to reframe what children experience ... and the fact that white children and families don't have to engage in that level of parenting, I think, does suggest a level of entitlement."

Here she's suggesting that black children have a much lesser bias due to the active parenting that goes on in this regard, while white children assume this bias naturally because of the lack of a need to parent in this regard. Kind of supports my theory that you have to learn equality, especially at an early age, rather than being born with a clean slate.

And I'm not trying to trivialize the impact social pressures have on racial perception. Obviously there's a major impact. Otherwise, black children wouldn't have a slight bias towards lighter skin.

But without the inherent bias, you wouldn't see something like this: "A black child says a white child is ugly because he's white."

That doesn't seem to me like a socially constructed view that the child picked up. That's an inherent view that the child naturally prefers. Even with adults, if anyone openly and honestly admitted to preferring their own race or ethnicity when it comes to looks, nobody would cry racism. It's in everyone, naturally, to some degree. You have to learn which aspects are "ok" to keep that inherent perceptive view, and which ones are wrong. And generally it happens at a very early age.

Posted by: psps23 | May 14, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

"Scamp & Red, you guys are too much alike!

That's why ya'll can't let this thing go. Bet if ya'll ever met, you'd prolly get along great. "

+++

Oh yeah, after they beat the snot out of each other and emptied the magazines, they'd probably be BFFL.

...sitting around on the front porch late evenings laughing at the way things used to be.

Posted by: edvar | May 14, 2010 5:02 PM |

I tell you what. I've become good friends with several people that I have thrown down with. I may not agree with or like what Red has to say but I respect a man that doesn't back down and gives as good as he gets.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 14, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I know a bunch of white Washington area dudes who are Dallas fans. I can't stand it. I don't get it. But, is it just me, or are there more black Dallas bandwagoners? Seems to me there are, but, then again, maybe it's just how stereotypes begin and are perpetuated. Maybe I'm just ascribing negative traits on "the other" in typical human fashion.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 14, 2010 3:53 PM

Not stereotyping...complete TRUTH....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 14, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, after they beat the snot out of each other and emptied the magazines, they'd probably be BFFL.

...sitting around on the front porch late evenings laughing at the way things used to be.

Posted by: edvar | May 14, 2010 5:02 PM |

I tell you what. I've become good friends with several people that I have thrown down with. I may not agree with or like what Red has to say but I respect a man that doesn't back down and gives as good as he gets.

Posted by: scampbell1975

Looking like a good call edvar

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 14, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

"Why is everyone talking Lakers-Celtics?"

'Cuz it's a money match up.

If you're a network exec, you want East Coast v. West Coast.

Kobe B v. the Green-Hued Celtics and their Basthun-accented supporter.

The worst thing that could happen is a Suns v. Magic match up.

But that's not gonna happen.

The Lakers will beat whomever the Eastern Conference sends its way, the world will yawn, indecently scratch itself, and wait for the Fourth of July.

And then, football.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 14, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I tell you what. I've become good friends with several people that I have thrown down with. I may not agree with or like what Red has to say but I respect a man that doesn't back down and gives as good as he gets.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 14, 2010 5:31 PM |

I was only joking a little.

Some of the best friends I had in grade school were guys I had gotten into fights with on the playground. Kind of felt bad about how bad they lost - but hey, I didn't start it, I just finished it.

A good fight sort of clears the air. Guys can do that. Knock each others teeth in and then go have a beer and laugh about it.

Women? Not a chance. Enemy's for life. It's funny to hear women talk about how there would be no war if women ruled the earth. Ha! It would be a never ending b!tch fight...

Posted by: edvar | May 14, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I remember a brutha got shot and KILT, for walking through a SE neighborhood (near RFK) for wearing a loud Cowboys jacket a couple years back..

"Scamp & Red, you guys are too much alike!"

Yeah, I wonder if they might be teams..Just like I wonder if Rage Against The Machine is teams, or Alex Jones..Rage's members all went to Harvard (teams central) and is signed with a megamusic label, and Alex Jones admits that his father is a fairly high-level Mason..If nuthin' else, they are honey for the flies and bears, so they can get hooked into the NSA's database (for jews and undesirables to be eliminated, like IBM did for the SS in WW2), every time you listen to the Alex Jones Show or order a Rage CD, you is TAGGED!! just sayin'..("teams"=undercover gov't ops)

Posted by: frak | May 14, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

"NFL Assistant Coaches Might Unionize"

NEW YORK (AP) -- NFL assistant coaches are considering unionizing because they feel team owners have stripped them of benefits.

Now, this is interesting.

I'd say it's one of the after effects of so many guys--who didn't play in the league and make great money--feeling a little 'kick in the stomach'.

For every J Gruden, E Mangini, S Pioli, there's guy who don't climb the coaching tree and make the big bucks.

So, they'd argue they need the pension and health benefits.

Should be some interesting threatre.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 14, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

"It's funny to hear women talk about how there would be no war if women ruled the earth."

I think they are right.

They would be no war if women ran the world.

At least not up until they found out that the men they bossed over made more money than them.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 14, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I feel like today was the second part of a Very Special Episode up here... and while it didn't quite live up to the quality of the first part (which aired yesterday) it's got me feeling a tad better heading into the weekend.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 14, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

can't resist putting this up here, although most of you have probably already seen it elsewhere:

http://www.psy.gla.ac.uk/~barry/Wrong-on-Internet.jpg

I keep a copy pasted to the side of my computer to help maintain sanity.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"So, they'd argue they need the pension and health benefits.

Should be some interesting threatre."

"They would be no war if women ran the world.

At least not up until they found out that the men they bossed over made more money than them.

Posted by: MistaMoe"


F***, Moe you are so wrong...NFL Football is MEGAMILLIONS, f*** management, all personnel deserve healthcare, pensions and rights..And get paid... As for women, there's an idiot in every demographic, that b**** Palin would have us zapped X-Ray Hotel Zulu in a nuke war with Russia and China ASAP!!! Ridiculous that the Republicans continue to field her as a leader and contender, surely there's a general somewhere...

Posted by: frak | May 14, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

"...you are so wrong...NFL Football is MEGAMILLIONS..."

I'm not saying I agree with the assistants, just that they have an interesting case to make.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 14, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Frak, sometimes I can't tell if we should take you off the meds or double the dose.

Posted by: edvar | May 14, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

either could be dangerous... keep him on the current treatment and he'll be fine.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

nate

"I feel like today was the second part of a Very Special Episode up here..."


"A very episode" of what?

The constant race mongering is as dull as reading the phone book.

Every once in a while, it's straight.

But today, it put me to sleep.

But if folks like it, it's all on them.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 14, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

So, 5-8 UFA may sign with the Redskins? If true, that means that 5-8 players currently on the roster will be served walking papers, no?

Anybody wanna start batting around names of those immediately awaiting the arrrival of The Turk?

(oh crap, is "The Turk" racist?)

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 14, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

So Sween you were saying what about children?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 14, 2010 3:55 PM

Those kids were only FOUR ... it starts at home. I could get personal ... OK, I will ... we started all three of our girls in all day public DC schools at age 3 ... for this exact purpose ... and we talk about it at home ... what it means, what they think about that, why they think that ...

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Racism is not an instinct.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 14, 2010 3:53 PM

Not stereotyping...complete TRUTH....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 14, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I love it when the dumbarse Dallas fans show up at 'Skins games, all decked out in their Emmitt jerseys......while we are playing Seattle or something. Why??
Thats just asking for a beat down.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 14, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Anybody wanna start batting around names of those immediately awaiting the arrrival of The Turk?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 14, 2010 6:28 PM

Can't bat them around. These are bottom-of-the-roster guys that no one has heard of.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 14, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I know a bunch of white Washington area dudes who are Dallas fans. I can't stand it. I don't get it. But, is it just me, or are there more black Dallas bandwagoners? Seems to me there are, but, then again, maybe it's just how stereotypes begin and are perpetuated. Maybe I'm just ascribing negative traits on "the other" in typical human fashion.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 14, 2010 3:53 PM

Not stereotyping...complete TRUTH....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 14, 2010 5:34 PM

Bandwagoneering Dallas is a bi-racial thing. Just like "liking" Dallas in the first place. Washington people who are Dallas fans, lots of people who have never set foot out of DC-MD-VA, only like Dallas b/c the Cowboys are the most despised rival of the Skins. Star bellied Sneeches.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

So, 5-8 UFA may sign with the Redskins? If true, that means that 5-8 players currently on the roster will be served walking papers, no?

Anybody wanna start batting around names of those immediately awaiting the arrrival of The Turk?

(oh crap, is "The Turk" racist?)

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 14, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Might just be the same 5-8 people that get the boot, in the end.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 14, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

There's a guy I used to work with who is a big Dallas fan, never been to Texas, his mom is disabled due to her obesity, he hates Republicans, says racist stuff all the time and he's white.

Good guy, though. Seriously. like satellite radio.

:)

I gotta give all those Dallas guys credit for showing up in hostile territory decked out, though.

You show up to a soccer game in Brazil decked out in the wrong colors, you'll get beaten unconscious and your girl will get gang raped. I mean, in the case of a real rivalry. Doesn't happen all the time, but enough that I personally wouldnt try it.

I don't see me headin up to Philly wearing my McNabb Redskin jersey. I mean, they beat up Chief Z, for cryin out loud. Plus, you can see better on TV. That's what I tell my cowardly self, anyway.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 14, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I agree with dcsween. Racism is learned, just like our idea of "beauty." Who's to say a plump chick with a huge schnoz isn't hot? Well, all the magazine covers, every movie starlet, every clothing ad, every billboard, every thing, everywhere, that's who.

Same with skin color. Same with hair "quality." We just take if for granted that women with the body of a 13 year old girl are hot.

It aint easy for a woman to maintain that "model" shape through their 20s, 30s, kids, etc.

But it's hammered into our heads silently and otherwise all the time. We don't even realize we're brain-washed.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 14, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

But it's hammered into our heads silently and otherwise all the time. We don't even realize we're brain-washed.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 14, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I agree that it is taught......BUT....
A fat chick with a big schnoz is not hot.
They got that part right.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 14, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Racism is not an instinct.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse
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Then why is is universal?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | May 14, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

So, 5-8 UFA may sign with the Redskins? If true, that means that 5-8 players currently on the roster will be served walking papers, no?

Anybody wanna start batting around names of those immediately awaiting the arrrival of The Turk?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 14, 2010 6:28 PM

been thinking the same thing... although until the start of real camp, it's just shuffling things around. will be interesting to see who loses out to the new batch of contestants.

would be surprised to see five to eight of these guys make it that far, but given you have to cut everything down to 53 eventually (excluding practice squad), why not take a chance?

and if I had to pick one, Daryll Clark will beat out Richard Bartel at QB to advance into the next round.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Women? Not a chance. Enemy's for life. It's funny to hear women talk about how there would be no war if women ruled the earth. Ha! It would be a never ending b!tch fight...

Posted by: edvar

Hah!!! There's truth in that. Talked to enough women who've been surrounded in their jobs by other women and no men -- scary stuff!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 14, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Racism is not relegated to one race of people, nor does it have to invoke "power". If I am Black and I refuse to give my business to a white man, or a latino because of their race, then I am a racist.

Racism is still alive and well in all races. People think because they don't see blacks swinging from trees or hoses and dogs, then there's no racism. It's much more subtle.

Posted by: rickyroge | May 14, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Michael Jordan- the fiercest competitor I've ever witnessed. He willed his team to win and you knew he was going to take the last shot without apology. Jordan left it all on the court every night. His defensive skills were underrated.

Kobe Bryant- a fierce competitor who had a better supporting cast than Jordan. I'd give Jordan the edge simply because the competition was better.

Lebron James- still young, but lacks that "killer instinct". You don't get that feeling that he's gonna win with the game on the line....yet

Posted by: rickyroge | May 14, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

"At least we don't have to pretend anymore. Arizona's passing of that mean-spirited immigration law wasn't about high-minded principle or the need to maintain public order. Apparently, it was all about putting Latinos in their place."-Eugene Robinson

Perfectly said.

Each party needs to re-think itself over time. The Dems have been a more fiscally responsible party than the Repubs because of this re-think (the crisis left behind by the Republican administration forced the Dems to spend in order to save us from a great depression -- most Dems hated having to do this). The Dems actually tried, and perhaps succeeded, in paying for the health care bill -- the Repubs didn't bother to attempt to pay for the Medicare benefits, 2 wars, a pork laden farm bill, etc.

The Repubs need to re-think their views towards various minorities. They need to get past their prejudices. Gays won't destroy marriage, immigrants won't destroy our economy, etc.

This will require a battle inside the party between those who hold these prejudices near and dear -- and those who have left prejudice behind. This reformation has taken far too long to begin. The sooner it happens, the better America will be.

posted by zcezcest in response.

this opinion is so full of sh*t my computer monitor actually stank when it scrolled across.

did you actually read 1070? or did you pull an Eric Holder and condemn it without knowing what the hell was in it.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 14, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Then why is is universal?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | May 14, 2010 7:16 PM

Though it might be universal that cultures (or a person who associates him/herself with that culture) would to exclude someone other from that culture, it doesn't mean that that exclusion is instinct.

An instinct is something a human (or other organism) is born with. Group, or cultural, behaviors are not instincts. I think the more accurate term for the group with a collective identity is a moiety ... but a moiety develops as a collective construct over time, not as an individual impulse.

Cowboys don't like indians; indians don't like cowboys. The Skins don't like the Cowboys ... but that animus is not innate ... doesn't happen till a guy gets drafted.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

posted by zcezcest in response.

this opinion is so full of sh*t my computer monitor actually stank when it scrolled across.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 14, 2010 8:18 PM

Now there's a surprise ... someone who thinks zcezcest is full of it.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Cowboys don't like indians; indians don't like cowboys. The Skins don't like the Cowboys ... but that animus is not innate ... doesn't happen till a guy gets drafted.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 8:34 PM

Cowboys don't like indians; indians don't like cowboys. The Skins don't like the Cowboys ... but that animus is not innate ... doesn't happen till a guy gets drafted.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 8:34 PM

Cowboys don't like indians; indians don't like cowboys. The Skins don't like the Cowboys ... but that animus is not innate ... doesn't happen till a guy gets drafted.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 8:34 PM

although if you picked up McNabb apologizing to Philly fans on 97.5 'The Fanatic', that type of lesson sometimes takes a little while longer to sink in after a trade.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

whooooooaaaa there.

need to cut back down to 50 gallons per day.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

although if you picked up McNabb apologizing to Philly fans on 97.5 'The Fanatic', that type of lesson sometimes takes a little while longer to sink in after a trade.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 8:40 PM

When McNabb was born into the NFL, he was breech and came by C-section -- he was booed by Philly fans who wanted Ricky Williams. Over time, he was accepted (begrudgingly) by his NFL group ... because Philly's relationship with and respect its team is like scampbell's respect for the guy he's beat on and been beaten on ... its borne of abuse. McNabb is always going to be an Eagle (like Favre is always going to be a Packer) ... but he can function because, unlike his skin, he (like Favre) can change his uniform.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

NFL teams are synthetic races.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

First NFL draft pick signed today -- my all purpose return guy of forever, Trindon Holliday (7th round, Texans).

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

NFL teams are synthetic races.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 8:54 PM
...................................

interesting. in this paradigm, is a team more like a country than a race?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 14, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

although if you picked up McNabb apologizing to Philly fans on 97.5 'The Fanatic', that type of lesson sometimes takes a little while longer to sink in after a trade.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 8:40 PM

don't fault DMac5 for doing it, it's a shame he felt he had to.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 14, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey Burgundy&Gold Family!...Made it through one very long year in Iraq. I'm lucky!..Very..Very Lucky!

In closing, I want to know just how many people plan to go to CANTON to see RUSS GRIMM get inducted? My twin brother also in the military told me that Cowboys fans will take over Canton. Boy he just don't know the power of BURGUNDY&GOLD.
HTTR!..

Posted by: Warpath85nIRAQ | May 14, 2010 1:27 AM

just caught the late post above on an earlier thread.

sometimes folks do this to append obnoxious comments (usually cowpoke fans).

but sometimes the latecomers are actually pretty cool.

if you think it's stupid to look back, that's ok...

...and I don't care what you think about global national security policy and such.

THIS ONE ROCKED!!!

cheers to you warpath!

and fnck the cowpokes.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't fault, i meant.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 14, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

interesting. in this paradigm, is a team more like a country than a race?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 14, 2010 9:00 PM

More like a race ... the purpose for their creation as a group is to create a collective identity in opposition to other collective identities ... and each team has the same genetic makeup and components (organs, etc.) as every other team (roster size, salary cap -- by rule till this past March, by custom since then, etc.).

Countries are much more different from each other ... created differently, for different purposes for existence, with different histories, and such and such.

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm 6'6 255lbs. But I can't play in the NBA

Posted by: Superman321 | May 14, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

must retire from the trough before I get culled....

grilling hotdogs with the calves tonight, wife is out for ladies' night.

in some circumstances "don't ask, don't tell" is a good policy.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

need to cut back down to 50 gallons per day.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 8:41 PM |

That's a lot of milk. Are they giving you genetically engineered bovine growth hormone (BST)?

Posted by: ItsaFact | May 14, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

That's a lot of milk. Are they giving you genetically engineered bovine growth hormone (BST)?

Posted by: ItsaFact | May 14, 2010 9:26 PM

it's 50 gallons of freezer-chilled Missouri River water in fact.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

"He's not going to muscle inside position against KG. He's not going to dribble by KG. He's going to have to hope that he can put KG on his hip and hit some 10-12 foot half-hook turnarounds with KG blanketed all over him.Posted by: p1funk"

I don't think so. Looks to me like KG is on the way out. The Cavs made him look like an All-Star, but it's an illusion.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 14, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

must retire from the trough before I get culled....

grilling hotdogs with the calves tonight, wife is out for ladies' night.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 9:22 PM |

If you need some soothing background music a Moodly Blues CD might not be so bad ...

Posted by: ItsaFact | May 14, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

If the Habs make it to the SC finals against Chicago then the Caps losing to them won't look as bad as it did when it happened, just like the Terps losing to MSU on the final shot and then they ended up making the final four.

Posted by: ItsaFact | May 14, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm 6'6 255lbs. But I can't play in the NBA

Posted by: Superman321 | May 14, 2010 9:15 PM |

Not with that attitude.

Posted by: mack1 | May 14, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

If you need some soothing background music a Moodly Blues CD might not be so bad ...

Posted by: ItsaFact | May 14, 2010 9:32 PM

MOL! one of the absolute lamest shows I ever saw as a long-hair dope-smoking teenager back in the day.

in reference to earlier conversation, will also admit to Steely Dan.

you already know about my soft spot for J-pop.

tonight, however, we're going to rock out on The Pinker Tones, straight from Barcelona!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQAvRPaaaFU

please do no not feed the cows nor tempt them further with carrots tonight.

catch you ponies later.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 14, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Goodnight Moo.

Posted by: mack1 | May 14, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Donovan, they are going to TOTALLY MISS YOU up in Philly..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6rtdnI2VJM

Posted by: frak | May 14, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Terrapin -- love the lack of ANY sign of intelligence in your comment.

I'm not the only one who sees the problem inside the Republican party. A leading Republican wrote this:

"it would be absurd to deny that the Republican ideological coalition includes elements that are anti-immigrant -- those who believe that Hispanics, particularly Mexicans, are a threat to American culture and identity."

You think these 'anti' attitudes doesn't include gays, blacks, etc?

As for listening to people involved in the bills, yes, I've listened to people who voted for both bills. The anti-immigrant bill was marginal, but I wasn't as upset with it as others. The education bill? That is insane.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 14, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 14, 2010 10:26 PM

a leading Repub., chr!st isn't that an oxymoron.

what i love, Zeke, is how you and Robinson leave the illegal part out of any of these arguments. i also love how Robinson, Holder, Steve friggin' Nash, anybody who says there's no way to not profile while enforcing this law insult every peace officer in our state.

i'm living in the middle of this mess and i hear what the kids leaving the friggin' La Raza studies classes are spouting. i don't believe that ethnic pride of any stripe should be taught in schools. if a particular family buys into that sh*t, keep it at home.

if less of these kids were taking La Raza studies and more were taking physics, maybe everyone would be better off.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 14, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest, you do realize the multi-headed jackass that passes for Rep. leadership doesn't speak for most real-world conservatives?

my God, man, if there was one that thought the way i do, i wouldn't have switched my registration this year.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 14, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey Burgundy&Gold Family!...Made it through one very long year in Iraq. I'm lucky!..Very..Very Lucky!

In closing, I want to know just how many people plan to go to CANTON to see RUSS GRIMM get inducted? My twin brother also in the military told me that Cowboys fans will take over Canton. Boy he just don't know the power of BURGUNDY&GOLD.
HTTR!..

Posted by: Warpath85nIRAQ | May 14, 2010 1:27 AM

Glad to have you back. Thanks for laying it all out there for all of us.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 14, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

this conversation (and others like it), brought to you by Warpath85inIRAQ and his twin brother.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 14, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey Burgundy&Gold Family!...Made it through one very long year in Iraq. I'm lucky!..Very..Very Lucky!

In closing, I want to know just how many people plan to go to CANTON to see RUSS GRIMM get inducted? My twin brother also in the military told me that Cowboys fans will take over Canton. Boy he just don't know the power of BURGUNDY&GOLD.
HTTR!..

Posted by: Warpath85nIRAQ | May 14, 2010 1:27 AM

Welcome home and Thanks. HTTR!

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 14, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Terrapin, your not making sense. I commented on the Republican party. Now you're saying that Republicans don't represent and aren't Republicans? The party needs to come to grips with policies that are racially offensive -- and many Republicans agree with that.

I have no clue on how you can teach history in an ethnically neutral way. Did George Wahsington really chop down that cherry tree? Did Abe Lincoln really walk 12 miles to return a penny? Do you get upset when you hear kids say those things?

As for the illegal part -- I wasn't worked up over the initial AZ law, especially if it was going to be implemented as one of its sponsors explained. I also get how people could -- and would -- interpret it as racism. I didn't assume that racism was an underlying part of that law. I also didn't believe the law would accomplish a lot of the things its authors suggested it might accomplish (specifically on the drug stuff -- I don't think this law will address that).

The education law, on the other hand, appears very racist to me. When I heard it explained by one of its main supporters, it was hard not to get that. Put the two laws back to back, and it becomes pretty hard to believe racism isn't in there.

As for La Raza, I'm not sure how they wind up teaching classes in public schools. You do have people that approve curricula -- and that's where the decisions should lie. Obviously, Mexican/Hispanic history is a big part of Arizona history.

I don't minimize the problems. Nor do I believe that every supporter of either law is racist. But that doesn't mean racism isn't in there.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 15, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for having b*lls and a sense of duty, Warpath85..But beware of Flag-Hijackers out for Domination and Greed that hide behind Old Glory for personal gain and power!!

Check out this FIRST AMENDMENT-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrXgLhkv21Y

Posted by: frak | May 15, 2010 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for having b*lls and a sense of duty, Warpath85..But beware of Flag-Hijackers out for Domination and Greed that hide behind Old Glory for personal gain and power!!

Check out this FIRST AMENDMENT-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrXgLhkv21Y

Posted by: frak | May 15, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Nice work, dcsween... way to go to the team color analogy of race. You might just be onto something. I mean, even a kid can understand that hating the Cowboys seems natural.

But what about Emmitt Smith? What if he played for the Redskins?

Would he still be Black? Wait.. uh... well, you know, the thing you were saying sounded much better. I liked it. Good job.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 15, 2010 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Pretty good article on genetics and athletic performance in this week's Sports Illustrated. Worth a read. Surprised me to learn there was more genetic variance in a pygmy tribe than in the remainder of the world's population.. fascinating stuff.

Speaking of genetics, a huge picture of Shaq's head on the cover, wondering if he would bring a title to Cleveland.

Oh, the irony.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 15, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

But what about Emmitt Smith? What if he played for the Redskins?

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 15, 2010 2:31 AM

Skins fans would think of him like they do about Sam Huff, i.e., "what did our crazy uncle just say?"

If T.O. had been a Skin (instead of an Eagle or Cowboy) and Portis a Cowboy, T.O. would still be a prima donna but much more lauded as a talented athelete ... and Portis would only be a prima donna.

Posted by: dcsween | May 15, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Btw, London Fletcher is a Buffalo Bill who happens to play for the Skins now.

[And Antonio Pierce and Ryan Clark are Skins.]

Btwn SF, Philly, and Dallas (and Buffalo), T.O. has lost all identity as a member of any particular of the synthetic races of the NFL. Which explains why he is currently a free agent ...

Posted by: dcsween | May 15, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Among the signing candidates, Marques Slocum is an interesting guy. He was a five star recruit to Michigan, one of the nation's best prospects and the star of their class. Academics proved too much for him, however, and he basically flunked out and wound up transferring to Eastern Arizona (wonder if he had to show his papers.) Legendarily unmotivated student at UM. Story is, once the prof asked him to stand up and talk in class, and Marques protested that he was only used to standing up to get awards. Plus he's a Tweeter, which is always dangerous to one's reputation.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 15, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

... Marques Slocum is an interesting guy. ...

Posted by: Samson151 | May 15, 2010 9:26 AM

So by "interesting," you mean that we should hope he's super talented so that he can make the roster and amuse us for years to come? Like a bona fide Eastern Motors celebrity superstar?

Posted by: dcsween | May 15, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

"He's not going to muscle inside position against KG. He's not going to dribble by KG. He's going to have to hope that he can put KG on his hip and hit some 10-12 foot half-hook turnarounds with KG blanketed all over him.Posted by: p1funk"

I don't think so. Looks to me like KG is on the way out. The Cavs made him look like an All-Star, but it's an illusion.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 14, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse


Well, in a general sense, KG is past his prime playing years and there's more career behind him than there is in front of him, so if that's what you mean by "on his way out", then sure.

But I certainly don't see him crumbling/falling apart against the Magic or the Lakers.

I don't think it's a stretch to say he can buckle down on defense for another series or 2.

He's healthy, motivated, veteran, and plays on a team that doesn't need him to be the best player on the floor every night in order to win. You get a veteran team like that and they know that there are really 2 seasons in the NBA - regular season and playoffs. The C's played rope-a-dope with NBA during the regular season. But now they've come to play.

At this point you take whatever you saw in the regular season and throw it out the window - certainly the way the Cavs bowed out teaches us that...

Posted by: p1funk | May 15, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

dcsween, race = team? (or country)

(for the purposes of discussion i will assume that the term "race" as applied to one's genes means something)

if i had to choose, i'd say a team is more like a country than a race.

team boundaries, like country boundaries, are pretty arbitrary - and even "crossable". even if you consider the draft as being "born" to a team, you can always get traded. we may think of john riggins as all redskin, but remember he was a jet. did he change race?!

in describing a team, you say,
"the purpose for their creation as a group is to create a collective identity in opposition to other collective identities..."

well that sounds MUCH more like a country than a race, right? a race is not "created" for any "purpose". it's just something your born into and it's something you CANNOT change (unless you're michael jackson....). whereas a country IS created to foster "a collective identity in opposition to other collective identities".

describing team/race, you say,
"...and each team has the same genetic makeup and components (organs, etc.) as every other team (roster size, salary cap and each team has the same genetic makeup and components (organs, etc.) as every other team (roster size, salary cap -- by rule..."

again, i think this is more like "country": sure every team has certain components in common with other teams - just like countries do. all countries have borders, some form of government, and have some kind of leader. also, each team has a "philosophy", which can changce according to who the leader(s) are. of course a team is much more like a monarchy than a democracy, and citizenship is not by right but by merit....

the fact that all teams have the same roster size and salary cap is actually much more like a country too: it's as if the U.N. (i.e., the competition committee) has mandated that all countries be exactly the same size - to foster better competition.

the main point i'm making is that one's race is not "negotiable", whereas country, like team, is.

you may talk about "true redskins" and so forth, but even art monk got traded. did he change race?! i LOVE that commercial where a guy accidentally cuts himself and starts bleeding packer green and gold. it's really cute, but it's not real....

like countries, teams have colors and flags and symbols etc.... not so for race. also, society considers it "ok" to root for a team, but not a race. we consider it "patriotic" to root for a country in the olympics, but would be appalled if someone were to root for a race.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 15, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

are our safeties so bad that an undrafted safety from Connecticut named Robbie Vaughn expects to make the team?! sheesh....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 15, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

"So by "interesting," you mean that we should hope he's super talented so that he can make the roster and amuse us for years to come? Like a bona fide Eastern Motors celebrity superstar?Posted by: dcsween"

LOL that would be the hope. Dexter Manley retired a long, long time ago...

Posted by: Samson151 | May 15, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I guess I think the Celtics are a little like San Antonio after they upset the Mavs. The Spurs discovered a weakness in the opponent, and exploited in beautifully. But then came a different opponent.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 15, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

are our safeties so bad that an undrafted safety from Connecticut named Robbie Vaughn expects to make the team?! sheesh....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 15, 2010 10:38 AM
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Redskins used to find good players in later rounds or undrafted

Joe Jacoby
Jeff Bostic
Darryl Grant
Clint Didier
Mark Schlereth
Charlie Brown
Chris Hanburger
Larry Brown
Frank Grant
Ken Stone
Monte Coleman

to name a few

Posted by: noonefromtampa | May 15, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 15, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"...lots of people who have never set foot out of DC-MD-VA, only like Dallas b/c the Cowboys are the most despised rival of the Skins. Star bellied Sneeches."

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 6:37 PM
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totally agree, these people are cowboy fans just to be contrarian. and thanks for the dr. suess reference. i just got a picture in my head of those two machines he had for applying/removing stars....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 15, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

noonefromtampa,
of course there are ufas who make the team and become stars. jacoby is my favorite example. i just sayin' if our guys were any good these guys wouldn't expect to get called back. i hope they are called back because that'll mean the coaches think they're better than last year's guys.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 15, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"...lots of people who have never set foot out of DC-MD-VA, only like Dallas b/c the Cowboys are the most despised rival of the Skins. Star bellied Sneeches."

Posted by: dcsween | May 14, 2010 6:37 PM
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totally agree, these people are cowboy fans just to be contrarian. and thanks for the dr. suess reference. i just got a picture in my head of those two machines he had for applying/removing stars....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 15, 2010 1:33 PM

Don't forget that Dallas earned the name, "America's Team". The DMV is still in America, regardless of how we think of ourselves, so it follows that there will be a representative sample of people from this area who identify with the Home Country Team, rather than their Home Town Team.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 15, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

are our safeties so bad that an undrafted safety from Connecticut named Robbie Vaughn expects to make the team?! sheesh....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 15, 2010 10:38 AM

i hope they are called back because that'll mean the coaches think they're better than last year's guys.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 15, 2010 1:38 PM

Three things:

1. No where does it say he expects to make the team. What it says is that he expects to sign a contract to compete for a spot on the team.

2. The only people you want to sign are ones who expect to make the team.

3. If they get called back all it means is that they're better than other UFAs we could have called, or maybe some that we've already signed. There's a lot of off-season turnover at the bottom of rosters.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 15, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

... Marques Slocum is an interesting guy. ...

Posted by: Samson151

just what we need another Einstein who'll excel in physical traits, but won't be able to understand the plays.
No thanks!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | May 15, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep,
i suppose i am blurring the line between being invited to camp and making the team - and i'm all about competition at every position.

i know there are training camp limits, but is there a limit to the # of players you can have at minicamps and/or otas?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 15, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

If honest Abe were alive today, he would be a liberal! The republican party in Abe's time WAS liberal. The conservatives were called the WHIG party. How things have changed in 150 years!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

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